Persona 4: Released and Ready 2 Play! Metacritic Score -- A Whoppin' 93!!! [Mobile/Archive] - Page 4

DarkSageRK

01-05-2009, 02:32 AM

Yeah, I screwed up Slutty Nurse like hardcore. I get to the end of November and decide to try out a job for the lulz. Then I find out that not only is the hospital job an S-link, but the daycare and the tutoring are too. I was raging pretty hardcore once I found that out, because all my other jobs resulted in nothing but money and status increases and there was nothing to indicate doing other jobs would lead to S-links.

zewone

01-05-2009, 03:24 AM

My current three I'm using for my second play through. I'm a sucker for Cool Breeze and Spell Master.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/zewone/Picture002Medium.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/zewone/Picture003Medium.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/zewone/Picture004Medium.jpg

pete5883

01-05-2009, 09:17 AM

No Trumpeter? All those resistances are :drool:

MSI Magus

01-05-2009, 11:28 AM

An interesting tidbit of info: The mythological gods Izanagi & Orpheus share a similar story in that they both decended into the underworld in order to save their spouse only to tragically lose them in their attempt. I just found it intersting since both are the main characters starting Persona in their respective games. I wonder if it's a coincidence or the creators specificlly wanted a tragic mythological god as the MCs Persona?

As you may tell I'm bored at work.

If you find stuff like that interesting you should look into this book I bought last year. Its as an RPG fan(and a mytho nerd)extremely interesting. Its called The Element Encyclopedia of Magical Creatures: The Ultimate A-Z of Fantastic Beings From Myth and Magic

http://www.amazon.com/Element-Encyclopedia-Magical-Creatures-Fantastic/dp/140273543X

It has a list of like every freaking mythological creature ever created then info on each and every one of them. Some of them only get a paragraph but some of the definitions stretch on for pages. I havnt really broke it out for Persona yet(god ill never stop reading the damn thing with the way SMT uses mythos)but I did for a number of RPGs and its amazing how many creatures you would think developers just dreamt up are actually have real life history that's extremely interesting.

There are a few other books in the line as well such as the encylopedia of 5,000 spells but they are not nearly as cool.

zewone

01-05-2009, 03:29 PM

No Trumpeter? All those resistances are :drool:

His stats are weak in comparrison.

For my second play through, I don't need resistances at the early dungeons, just using the most powerful Personas to stomp through the shadows quickly.

DarkSageRK

01-05-2009, 03:48 PM

Wait... can you summon any Persona from the Compedium regardless of your level on the second playthrough?

Zenjiro

01-05-2009, 03:51 PM

I'm really glad that this series is creating such a huge buzz now.

zewone

01-05-2009, 03:54 PM

Wait... can you summon any Persona from the Compedium regardless of your level on the second playthrough?

Yep. You just can't fuse them (still have to meet the level requirements), but buying them at any level is an option.

DarkSageRK

01-05-2009, 03:57 PM

Yep. You just can't fuse them (still have to meet the level requirements), but buying them at any level is an option.

AGGGGGGHHHHH

I really wish I'd have known that before I saved my clear file.

Well, at least this gives me another reason to play through the game again. Thanks for the info.

Jest

01-05-2009, 04:40 PM

So I'm only about 53 hours in, but it feels like I'm at the final boss. Rescuing Nanako Am I really close to being finished?

zewone

01-05-2009, 04:41 PM

So I'm only about 53 hours in, but it feels like I'm at the final boss. Rescuing Nanako Am I really close to being finished?

Two more dungeons. The next dungeon is the longest. You still have plenty to do.

Jest

01-05-2009, 04:47 PM

Oh good. I'm not ready for the game to end but I'm not ready for New Game+ just yet.

Ski Hawk

01-05-2009, 05:19 PM

I'm at the Secret Laboratory, reading this thread it feels like I'm about halfway through? About that?

zewone

01-05-2009, 05:28 PM

2/3 I'd say.

Rodimus

01-05-2009, 05:34 PM

Naoto's S.Link leveled up very quickly. Everytime I wanted to hang out it was a level up event.

Ski Hawk

01-05-2009, 05:43 PM

Wow, I've died in the Secret Lab 4 fucking times. QUIT fuckING KILLING ME GAME. I AM NOT THAT UNDERLEVELED

Jest

01-05-2009, 07:29 PM

Jebus... Any tips for fighting the Heaven boss?

And I need a good < lvl 60 Wind persona. I'm still using Titania >.<

DarkSageRK

01-05-2009, 07:42 PM

Jebus... Any tips for fighting the Heaven boss?

And I need a good < lvl 60 Wind persona. I'm still using Titania >.<

Use the standard buffs/debuffs. Attack + and Accuracy/Evade + on your team and Defense - on the boss.

If you haven't figured it out already, when atmosphere changes, whatever element the boss uses on you becomes stronger against him for the duration of the atmosphere change. So use that element all you can.

When he takes your characters over, just make sure you have a Persona with Null Physical or is strong against physical attacks, since that's what they tend to attack with.

Dead of Knight

01-05-2009, 08:20 PM

Wow, I've died in the Secret Lab 4 fucking times. QUIT fuckING KILLING ME GAME. I AM NOT THAT UNDERLEVELED

What level are your guys?

thelonepig

01-05-2009, 10:08 PM

Jebus... Any tips for fighting the Heaven boss?

And I need a good < lvl 60 Wind persona. I'm still using Titania >.<

Magic Mirrors. :twisted:

Wait until the boss does an atmosphere shift, then have everyone use a magic mirror. Boss rolled over two rounds after the first atmosphere shift.

Jest

01-05-2009, 11:19 PM

I used all my Magic Mirrors on the last boss :-P I tried that same tactic with Makarakan but the boss has a move that dispells it. I just grinded out some more, but the monsters on the higher floors aren't giving me much exp anymore. Its the second last day so I just gotta hunker down and get lucky.

Ski Hawk

01-05-2009, 11:24 PM

What level are your guys?
About low 40s

Dead of Knight

01-06-2009, 12:31 AM

About low 40s

You need to grind some moar and probably get better Personas. My MC was like 53 before finishing that dungeon, and 55 after the dungeon's bonus boss.

Magic Mirrors. :twisted:

Wait until the boss does an atmosphere shift, then have everyone use a magic mirror. Boss rolled over two rounds after the first atmosphere shift.

Pisses me off that Magic Mirrors and Diamond Shields only cover one person instead of the party like in Persona 3.

Ski Hawk

01-06-2009, 12:34 AM

Well, I plan on leveling more, although I really have no idea how skill inheritance works. I basically just click around and see what my options are. I've always had a knack for beating games underleveled, so hopefully I can do it again. (Was about 5 levels under what the guide recommended for the Void Quest boss, although that was a brutal fight).

If only I wouldn't have died when I had double EXP going. I was leveling up nearly every fight.

Jest

01-06-2009, 01:27 AM

Yay I finally beat that boss I was stuck on. Shit just got real tense.

JEKKI

01-06-2009, 01:54 AM

Jest

01-06-2009, 02:47 AM

zewone

01-06-2009, 02:50 AM

I credits are rolling.. spoiler alert

What the SHAQ-FU! I must have got the "bad ending". The idiot just up and leaves! I'm seriously pretty pissed right now. I was almost certain I was going to go back into the TV to fight that shadow Namatame and get rid of all fog in Inaba. Fuck.

That's the bad ending. You basically need a guide to get the normal ending, and than, you need to do something else to get the true ending.

Jest

01-06-2009, 02:59 AM

Fuck. I wish I had time to play RPGs like I used too... Good thing I saved the final one in a different slot :P Just need to beat that damn boss again and follow a guide for a normal ending.

happy

01-06-2009, 05:42 PM

crap!! I read that after certain dates, certain S.Links become unavailable...

my hopes of maxing everybody in one game is now crushed :bomb:

I havent even been able to begin Tower S.Link either!! and I'm in November now (dungeon 6)

jus when u think u learned all these tricks from Persona 3, P4 still manages to find a way to make it hard for you and u never realize it until it's too late

That's bad, I also haven't started tower... I assume it's the tutoring one? (I don't have max understanding yet). I'm aiming to max as many as I can and ignore others unless I have nothing else to do (starting with females and team members), possibly ignoring Kanji (I forget about him since he's in the practice building and he sucks in fights - at least the little I have used him).

I have the Secret Laboratory next, hopefully it won't be too painful :pray:

Mr. Beef

01-06-2009, 05:48 PM

Kanji's good in fights, just not boss fights. I take him through a dungeon, then swap him out before the boss.

MSI Magus

01-06-2009, 08:14 PM

Vegan

01-06-2009, 08:35 PM

The music in P4 is worse than in P3? Oh god. The music in P3 was terrible, I was ready to stab my ears out by the end of it. Great, something to look forward to. Sigh.

MSI Magus

01-06-2009, 08:55 PM

The music in P4 is worse than in P3? Oh god. The music in P3 was terrible, I was ready to stab my ears out by the end of it. Great, something to look forward to. Sigh.

Well most others seem to like it better just not me soooooo

Rodimus

01-06-2009, 09:22 PM

Kanji's good in fights, just not boss fights. I take him through a dungeon, then swap him out before the boss.

This is true. There's not many boss fights were he comes in handy. With that said I think he's overall the weakest of all your teammates. And it's too bad cause I really like the character.

Dead of Knight

01-06-2009, 09:23 PM

Just started the game today and I am enjoying the hell out of it. Some things I like more then Persona 3 some I dont(music being my biggest one but its still damn good)have to say this again confirms Dead of KNight is out of her damned mind(joking love ya hon).

Wait, you made all these posts in this thread about how good the game is and saying my opinions are WRONG without even playing the game?

Fuck you, good sir.

Mr. Beef

01-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Dead of Knight

01-06-2009, 10:29 PM

Why do people think it's a good idea to hassle DoK?

I really like Kenji, but dammit I wish he had just a bit more magic damage this early in the game. I still love the one scene with him where the main character and he were eating noodles. I forget exactly what they were talking about, but Kenji ended the scene by saying "I'm gonna RENOVATE your ass!"

I love Kanji. His most frequent battle quote when I played the game was "COME ON DOWN!!" Always made me think of this:
http://www.gigglechick.com/erin/blog/rod1.jpg

Mr. Beef

01-06-2009, 10:45 PM

I remember he said "SUCK IT" a couple of times, which made me think of them:
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dx/10.jpg

Dead of Knight

01-07-2009, 12:38 AM

His winning pose also reminded me of this:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/bowser.gif

Mr. Beef

01-07-2009, 12:45 AM

Heheh, I had nearly forgotten about that. It kinda loses its impact when Kanji has a huge, happy smile on his face, though.

Ski Hawk

01-07-2009, 01:05 AM

Nevermind, the picture I tried posting isn't working.

Jest

01-07-2009, 01:06 AM

I'm at Magatsu town right now. I've been using Chie, Akiko, and Naoto since I got him. All in the low 60s. I'm going to try to level up Teddie to replace Chie and Yosuke to replace Naoto (haven't really decided on that one) before the boss. Not much time and I still need to max Yosuke and Rise's S Links if I set that as my party.

So what is everyone's main party?

EDIT: Fuck what I said. Its too hard to level these bastards now, lol

zewone

01-07-2009, 02:33 AM

Yosuke, Chie, Yukiko.

Chie was pretty useless, so I traded her for Naoto, who was also useless. I ended up putting Chie back in.

I think I'm going to try out Teddie on my second go round.

Jest

01-07-2009, 03:30 AM

That will be my line up on round 2 as well.

fatbeer

01-07-2009, 06:27 AM

Most of characters in this game have some sort of use. I find Naoto be the most useless. Her death spells maybe good on normal enemies(if they arn't immune to them), but when it comes to bosses she is horrendous. The only offensive she got against a boss is almighty spell coupled with misplaced mind charged(the only ally with this skill). Almighty spell doesn't pack much of punch compare to elemental counterpart without boost, amp or equipment. High cost of spell doesn't help either. They should of dump that skill to character that can fully utilize that skill such as Teddy, Yosuke or Yukiko.

Also, I find it strange that Kaiji have absurd amount of strength with low magic stats, yet he's coupled with high-end elemental attacks. He got some good physical skills like Primial Force and attack buff, but it's not enough to compensate lackluster physical skill line up. He should at least have a power charge with some passive defensive skills.

MSI Magus

01-07-2009, 09:12 AM

Wait, you made all these posts in this thread about how good the game is and saying my opinions are WRONG without even playing the game?

Fuck you, good sir.

I said right from the start that I hadnt played the game and that I wasnt trying to judge it. I was going by the fact that at all the forums I post at and out of the dozens of reviews I had read/watched you and game informer were the only 2 that had anything bad to say about the game. Added with the fact that everyone was saying this was mostly Persona 3 with some new additions but the additions, story and music were all better.....and again wasnt judging the game but saying it was hard to believe it wasnt going to be a game worthy of higher then a freaking 7.25 and an 8.

Rodimus

01-07-2009, 11:24 AM

Kanji's low Magic kills his Zio skills, and his Agility doesn't help much either.

I find Naoto very useful. He's that character thats dumped in near the end of the game that picks up all the left over skills. It's just a shame that most of his spells use up a ton of SP. Mind Charge + Megidoloan is awesome, but such a drain.

happy

01-07-2009, 02:13 PM

I finally have a persona with repel phys and it's as good as they were in Nocturne :D

Just beat the mid boss of the secret lab (the transformer dude thing) mainly from damage it did to itself even though I was massively underleveled (I'm 47). Everyone else was dead from the second or third attack on. when it started waiting and cast last resort I got a little scared, but it only did 70 damage for some reason

Unfortunately I'm assuming this is like nocturne and that means the next boss will probably have null phys and all kinds of elemental attacks...

They definitely did better than P3 in including funny conversation choices that I need to pick even though I know they won't work "what does he has the most brains mean?" "He's not an athlete" was too good

Dead of Knight

01-07-2009, 02:48 PM

The next boss is not that bad at all.

MSI Magus

01-07-2009, 03:49 PM

The stupid warp intro to the TV world where its a white screen with black boxes is making me want to play Maniac Mansion Day of the Tentacle very badly.

Mr. Beef

01-07-2009, 03:53 PM

That screen actually hurt my eyes a whole bunch at first, now I'm used to it. I don't know if I should be worried or not.

MSI Magus

01-09-2009, 02:26 PM

2 quick questions

1. How do I get my money/accesory from Nanako and her dad after being top 10 in the exams? I have talked to them on numerous nights and neither has given me anything.

2. God its so fucking cheap when you die to an instant death spell. Whole party alive and at 90% or so health and 1 fucking enemy hits the MC with a death spell so my last hour of work is down the drain!

zewone

01-09-2009, 02:38 PM

Dead of Knight

01-09-2009, 02:41 PM

I thought you only got the prize from Nanako for placing first, not top 10? Though you get money from Dojima for placing in the top 10.

zewone

01-09-2009, 02:42 PM

I thought you only got the prize from Nanako for placing first, not top 10? Though you get money from Dojima for placing in the top 10.

Correct. Also, the history teacher gives you items too.

Jest

01-09-2009, 04:47 PM

You can't buy SP restoring items right?

zewone

01-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Not that I know of.

pete5883

01-09-2009, 07:32 PM

You can get 5 TaP Cola's per week from the vending machine in front of the old lady's shop. Only restores 10SP each, but if you remember to buy them every week, you'll have a lot when you need them.

MSI Magus

01-09-2009, 07:57 PM

1. Just talk to them ASAP after the test results have been posted. The rewards convo will take precedence over the regular convo.

2. Use a Persona with resistance to mudo/hama when facing an enemy with that skill.

1. Iv talked to them many times and so far nothing has come of it.

2. Obviously and duh. But early in the game you might not have one and in my case it was the first time I had fought the enemy so I had no way of knowing it was going to hit me with it.

And so wait, looking at DoK's response you get it not from placing top 10 but placing at the head of your class spot 1? I got the thing from the teacher but as I said Nanako and Dojima nothing so what DoK is saying would make sense.

zewone

01-09-2009, 07:59 PM

You should still get yen from Dojima.

The only time he doesn't give you money is if you are the lowest score possible.

Rodimus

01-09-2009, 08:00 PM

You can get 5 TaP Cola's per week from the vending machine in front of the old lady's shop. Only restores 10SP each, but if you remember to buy them every week, you'll have a lot when you need them.

You can also get 5 sodas from the vending machine in the North Shopping distict but these only give you 5 sp. However everytime you play you're entered in a lottery to win more free soda cans.

It's a little troublesome to do this so often but over several weeks this adds up and could save you precious money & time.

Mr. Beef

01-09-2009, 10:11 PM

Also, you can level up the Fox. Once it gets to around 6-7, it starts paying for itself when you go through a new dungeon.

happy

01-09-2009, 11:12 PM

I'm getting to the end of october and all of these rainy/busy days are killing me. I doubt I'll be able to finish Naoto, Kanji (you all convinced me), and Ai now... After the hospital scene I was looking forward to Naoto's double dragons too, I hope I don't miss out.

JEKKI

01-10-2009, 04:02 AM

I jus plowed thru dungeon 6... and it was a bitch!!

I got ambushed by a group of enemies that did nothing but Hama/Mudo on me!!

bam... in like a few seconds, 4 Homonculus gone from my inventory -_-

and that boss was a biyach also!! I had to use like 3 Snuff Souls in that battle!!

on the good side, dungeon 6 music is awesome!! so was dungeon 5 btw...

dungeon 4's music sounded too much like Lil Wayne imo...

MSI Magus

01-10-2009, 11:26 PM

2 more quick questions

1. Can you be serious with more then 1 girl at a time? I am at level 7/8 with a lot of girls so I am getting close to the point where I will be getting the question that decides if the relationship is serious or not...so dont want to commit to a girl and then not be able to commit to one I preffer. Also if you can only commit to 1 girl then is there a benefit of going with certain ones like an item/persona?

2. I am in July right now in the game and I find that more and more I am finding a lot of Slinks like Sakis brothers/Nankos and the Hospital janitor that require very high knowledge/understanding etc etc. My levels are all at level 3 except for Diligiance which is lagging at lvl 2. Should I keep plugging away at any S.Links I have been working on or start focusing a bit more on my other non combat stats? Just dont want to paint myself into a corner where I cant work on any S.Links.

Thanks guys!

Rodimus

01-11-2009, 12:41 AM

JEKKI

01-11-2009, 01:15 AM

honestly, focus on 2 types of S.Links:

your party members,

and the ones that raise your stats.

I'm in November and JUST started Tower S.Link coz I neglected the Temperance link...

likewise I was hella late to Nanako's link coz I neglected Sun link...

well, not necessarily neglect, but balance with everything else... I shoulda prioritized instead

MSI Magus

01-11-2009, 10:02 AM

^ 1. Yes you can. However some people have said that if you're intamite with more than 1 girl she interupts your rank 10 date thus wasting a day. This hasn't happened to me yet but I've only maxed out 2 of the girls so far.

2. You're not doing to bad in this aspect. If you eat at Aiya everytime it rains you shouldn't have a problem. Trust me, this is the best way to level up stats in the game. Remember that some S.Links help boost your stats, for example the day dare job (understanding), janitor (courage), sports club (dillagence) & culture club (expression). Maybe it would be a good idea to work on these so you can take care of both. I suggest the culture club since it also helps your Expression which is one of the more important stats, plus you recive a few other stat bonus if you select the right thing to say. Don't worry about Dillagence, it's almost useless.

See and I have only ate at Aiya twice the whole game and read at my desk/couch a handful of times. Every single time there has been an S.Link available even if its hermit I have focused on the S.Link vs stats. Culture Club I have done a lot since Experession seemed useful and it was giving big boosts. I think I need to do sports club a little more though since my diligence is only on the second step so I still cant do the Devil S.Link. Sports is on level 5(was pissed when I missed the special event with them and Chie where ou get the book because it was level 5).

Ah well thanks for the advice. Ill probally stop focusing on my team mates so much here and focus on strength for a minute and make sure to start eating at Aiya on rainy days.

happy

01-11-2009, 11:29 AM

See and I have only ate at Aiya twice the whole game and read at my desk/couch a handful of times. Every single time there has been an S.Link available even if its hermit I have focused on the S.Link vs stats. Culture Club I have done a lot since Experession seemed useful and it was giving big boosts. I think I need to do sports club a little more though since my diligence is only on the second step so I still cant do the Devil S.Link. Sports is on level 5(was pissed when I missed the special event with them and Chie where ou get the book because it was level 5).

Ah well thanks for the advice. Ill probally stop focusing on my team mates so much here and focus on strength for a minute and make sure to start eating at Aiya on rainy days.

If you can do an S. Link on a rainy day that's better than eating the special, but most of them aren't available in the rain hence eating.

thelonepig

01-11-2009, 09:53 PM

I'm nearly finished with the true ending. Doubt I'll be playing the game again, though it did keep me entertained. It lacked something that P3 had and I can't quite figure out what it is. My biggest complaint was the change in color scheme. Persona 3 was relaxing to play due to the blue/black color scheme.

Also, I'm a bit irked that just like P3, the game is advertised to play over the course of a year, but it skips the last 3 months.

Vegan

01-12-2009, 03:08 AM

My biggest complaint was the change in color scheme. Persona 3 was relaxing to play due to the blue/black color scheme.

If that's the most you can come up with, I'd say that's pretty good.

Rodimus

01-12-2009, 11:41 AM

P3's blue/black theme fit in with moody city life. Plus the changes in the storyline revolved around the phases of the moon. I'll be honest P4's colors seemed a bit off at first but looking back I think it fits in well. Shades and gray might have made more sense (fog, rain, etc) but gray isn't very eye catching.

bigl523

01-12-2009, 01:23 PM

There's an article on playmagazine.com where the creator's discuss the reasoning behind the color scheme. Apparently it's a Japanese thing with the colors that westerner's wouldn't understand.

JEKKI

01-12-2009, 02:09 PM

word! I got the premature ending yesterday!!

I'm now saved at the final dungeon... I wonder how many more days it will take me to beat the game??

hopefully I can finish by the weekend... I can celebrate the victory with sum weekend sushi!!

thelonepig

01-12-2009, 10:24 PM

If that's the most you can come up with, I'd say that's pretty good.

Yeah, not too bad, eh? There were a few things that were irksome (dungeon camera, no/limited s-links on rainy days, etc), but the color is what really jumped out. I had a hard time playing for long stretches because the yellow was too bright.

cindersphere

01-12-2009, 10:37 PM

I love the yellow color scheme. I find it relaxing and a change of pace from P3.

JEKKI

01-13-2009, 12:02 AM

boooo! so I jus died!!!

like... for my 1st time in the entire game!!!!

SMT'd about time I guess...

I was on floor 5 of the 7th dungeon... then I got Last Resorted by sum evil dice or something...

:cry: sux coz I really wanted to beat that stage, time is too expensive to afford another go tonite...

anyway I gotta say, I love my Chie, Yukiko, Naoto team!!

Batltoad + Chie + Naoto = attack-all physical attacks for days!! Kanji doesnt even have an attack all!!

all-physical attacks is pretty much mamudo, except much more effective. I dont even care about weaknesses anymore...

then Yukiko + half-SP accessory = hella healing.

tis a shame tho, physical attacks dont work well against those dice :cry:

fuck those exploding dice!!

MSI Magus

01-13-2009, 02:46 PM

You know I have to say while I bitched that the guide was too thin intially I have to give it credit, its a damn fine guide. I am very glad I bought the strat for this game and even if its thin its got all the info I can need!

Nathan_Sama

01-13-2009, 08:21 PM

lol I expect Chie to yell Jennkies! every time I knock down all the shadows!

Rodimus

01-13-2009, 08:59 PM

I've barely played this in the last week. Damn Netflix (360) & Office: Season 2

I think I'll beat by Friday..... maybe

JEKKI

01-14-2009, 12:58 AM

man fuck Kanji.

I leveled him up to the point where he's learned all his Persona ability...

and he never once learns an attack-all physical!!!

wtf?!?! for the stereotypical brawler of the game, he dont even hit hard!!

Chie on the other hand gots God Hand, Tarakuja, and Power Charge... plus a fantastic attack all skill.

and has more SP.

even Naoto can beat the crap out of Kanji in a fist fight... I am pretty sure of it.

yeay... Kanji sucks

JEKKI

01-15-2009, 01:05 AM

oh shyt! wild wild west!!

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/971441111fef069bab9660f44d11509cf495.jpg

thelonepig

01-15-2009, 01:35 AM

Where the halibut do you find this stuff JEKKI?

Mr. Beef

01-15-2009, 01:37 AM

In JEKKILAND.

zewone

01-15-2009, 02:35 AM

A P4 wallpaper I put together, if anyone wanted:

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4906/p4walluu3gc5.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4walluu3gc5.jpg)

Mr. Beef

01-15-2009, 02:51 AM

Nice job, Zew.

hero101

01-15-2009, 02:56 AM

I have to replay P3 FES before fighting this monster game. I'm probably going to get the P4 Guide later.

kainzero

01-15-2009, 03:46 AM

MSI Magus

01-15-2009, 11:52 AM

i got bad end
and i was like

maaaaaan. i messed up my social links anyway. let me just new game+. i'm tired of crappy s.link responses. hopefully i can run over everybody with my persona compendium now.

Speaking of this. I just posted this question at gamefaqs.

I'm guessing that Persona 4, like Persona3 has a mode where you can start the game over again with stats like diligence and courage at their current ranks. I'm a little over half way through the game right now and I'm pretty sure I won't be able to max out my S.links. so I wanted to start a new game plus as soon as possible. What's the first date that I can get an ending that lets me start the game over and a new game plus? Ill worry about getting the good ending the second play through, just want to hit an ending where I can start over with my current stuff ASAP.

Dead of Knight

01-15-2009, 01:44 PM

Where the halibut do you find this stuff JEKKI?

Stolen from NeoGAF stolen from SomethingAwful. ;)

JEKKI

01-15-2009, 02:10 PM

whooo! I beat it last nite!!

not the true ending... jus the good one...

I gotta say, the final boss went down like a bitch!!!

rakunda + tarakuja + power charge + god hand = death in 3 turns.

hopefully the true final boss will go down that easy! lol.

anyway ending stats:

all stats MAX except Dilligence (rank 4)

all S.Link MAX except:

Justice (rank 8) and Tower (rank 9)... I couldnt get to these in time due to stats

Moon (rank 8) and Hanged (rank 8)... nah fukk these guys.

so... I think I did pretty good. Anyways, True Final Boss this weekend or friday... no time today.

Vegan

01-15-2009, 03:32 PM

How does it work if you end up with the bad or the not-so-perfect ending? Do you just avoid overwriting your game after the credits roll, reload your game and do something different?

Basically, is there any way I can screw myself and create a scenario where I go, "Oh crap, I just got the bad ending, but now I have to restart the entire game because the branch was 2 months back"?

Can that information even be conveyed without spoilers?

Rodimus

01-15-2009, 06:24 PM

You don't have to worry about accidentally getting the bad/normal ending & screwing it up. Once you're on the path it happens that day and you're done. Just reload and try again. I purposely wanted to see the bad ending, and it's not very happy.

The bad ending happens on December 3rd

kainzero

01-15-2009, 06:33 PM

i didn't think i was gonna get the bad ending. i thought i knew the right choices but i didn't.

kinda ridiculous if you ask me. you just can't say what you want to say.

zewone

01-15-2009, 06:39 PM

I don't think anyone is a fan of how easy it is to get the bad ending.

You pretty much need a guide, unless you want to spend lots of time doing trial and error.

MSI Magus

01-15-2009, 06:50 PM

Ya, I think its one of only 2 glaring problems I have with this series.

The choices needed to get the different endings and ranks up to your S.Links can be pretty odd/random. Like I would have never thought telling Kanji he needs to change himself would get an S.Link up vs telling him to simply apologize to his mother. I would like in the next game for it to be more apparent what paths lead to what endings and for S.Links ranking up be like 75% just having a conversation and 25% your answers.

The other problem I mentioned is the pacing of the game. The dungeons are entirely too damn long as are many of the story parts. Its kind of annoying that the game is broke up into huge segments of one thing or the other, like 2 hours of story and being not in control of your characters followed by an hour of S.Links then a dungeon for 2-5 hours just to have the whole thing repeat.

Nathan_Sama

01-16-2009, 11:39 AM

an S.Link with a fox?
WTH?

Vegan

01-16-2009, 01:04 PM

I started the game last night! Played a couple hours in, haven't really gotten much control over the character yet. I burned out hard on P3, I can't believe I feel ready to do this again, so soon.

pete5883

01-16-2009, 01:13 PM

I don't think anyone is a fan of how easy it is to get the bad ending.

You pretty much need a guide, unless you want to spend lots of time doing trial and error.
I dunno, I thought most of the answers were logical, except the last one. Of course, the last one was the one I got wrong.

thelonepig

01-16-2009, 03:46 PM

Went up against the true ending boss for the first time and everything went smoothly, until it cast Megidoloan... I hadn't had any problems the first five or so times it was cast, but for some reason this time it took nearly 700 HP off my MC, about 200 off Teddy, and the other two dodged it. Everyone was at full health, but even so, MC died.

I'll have to try again later.

Calamityuponthee

01-16-2009, 04:14 PM

thelonepig

01-16-2009, 05:56 PM

Did it cast energy charge? Everytime it does that, you have to guard. I didn't die once against the True ending boss, was actually pretty easy.

No mind charge. It was absolutely bizarre. I even had the same Persona (Metatron) equipped as I did when it was taking off 200 - 250. This also occurred right after I dropped her to 0 HP and she wouldn't take any damage, so everyone was guarding except Teddie.

8:15 edit: And it's game over. Nothing really changed this time around, yet I smashed through the boss without a problem. Even with mind charge active, megidoloan took off about 150 (not guarding). Absolutely bizarre...

Vegan

01-17-2009, 04:00 PM

Finally got to some dungeon crawling. Got to the first boss Yukiko's guard and got my ass handed to me. Now I have to start over. I'm really missing P3's save-point-before-a-boss. I understand that it was kinda cheap being able to go back to the 1st floor for an automatic replenishment of HP and SP and then continue from the floor you left off at, but I'm an adult with a lifestyle that simply does not support marathon sessions without a save point.

God, I got greedy. I should have backed out and come back the next day. But I didn't want to do that because I didn't want to have to work my way back up to 5F again.

Dead of Knight

01-17-2009, 04:40 PM

There are save points before bosses, just not midbosses. And use a Goho-M to warp back to the entrance. You will be able to continue at the exact floor you left off at.

Rodimus

01-17-2009, 06:20 PM

I beat this last night. I died once on the last boss. I didn't gaurd against a charged Megidoloan. But it was only the second time I ever died in the game. Now I'm all depressed that it's over with. I want more.

Logged in about 120 hours but missed 5 S-Links. I got 86% of the Demonic Compendium. Hmmm, not bad I guess. I did make Helel that's almost impossible to kill. It nulls everything except Phys which it's strong against.

Vegan

01-17-2009, 10:31 PM

There are save points before bosses, just not midbosses. And use a Goho-M to warp back to the entrance. You will be able to continue at the exact floor you left off at.

Thanks, that's good to know. I'm just going to consider that a practice run. Still, a couple of hours down the drain (I'm sure it wasn't REALLY two hours, but it feels like it).

Ski Hawk

01-18-2009, 02:48 AM

Oh wtf...I got to the miniboss on the 5th dungeon and Atlus decided it would be a good idea to let him go first with an attack that does heavy damage to everyone and then let him charge up for next turn before I can even do anything. I promptly shut off the game because games that do that don't deserve to be played (I don't mean permenantly, just for the moment).

Vegan

01-18-2009, 04:15 PM

Okay, so I rescued the first person in time, and on "deadline night" your character automatically watches the TV. Clearly, if you succeed, it just says you don't see anything.

If you fail to rescue someone in time, do you see any kind of special cutscene or anything? Or is it all just the same generic thing?

kainzero

01-18-2009, 05:24 PM

out of curiosity i got the undub version.

wow.
i never thought i'd prefer an english dub. the only voice i liked from the japanese one was chie, who actually sounds cute.

JEKKI

01-19-2009, 03:30 AM

whooo! I beat it! finally!!

such a fantastic game!!!

anyway, last boss didnt go down as easy as the previous last boss, but it still wasnt too tough.

I beat it on my 1st try with no problems, but I had to use my entire stash of Diamond Shields since none of my personas had Maraku

now I can finally read my artbook!! finally!!!

pete5883

01-19-2009, 09:17 AM

I was kind of disappointed that, in the bad endings, the world doesn't end. IN the good ending, they say that at the end of the year, Inaba will get swallowed up. But it doesn't. Disappointing.

Jest

01-21-2009, 09:51 PM

I am really pissed that I flipped through the art book before playing the game.

1UP put up an afterthoughts interview with some Atlus guys. http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3172364

Vegan

01-22-2009, 02:15 AM

I am really pissed that I flipped through the art book before playing the game.

...

There's a spoiler warning on the very first page.

pete5883

01-22-2009, 09:39 AM

When "flipping through," not everyone turns to the first page first.

Vegan

01-22-2009, 01:06 PM

Well then flipping through probably isn't a very smart idea, is it?

pete5883

01-22-2009, 10:36 PM

How is one to know that until it's too late? P3's artbook was pretty safe.

Jest

01-22-2009, 11:11 PM

spoilar alert

Is Kanji really gay? Its basically love at first sight when he sees Naoto, but he thinks shes a guy. So did he fall for "her" or "him"?

The nosebleed scene at the summer camp leads me to believe hes not gay. Apparently in Japan a nosebleed indicates hes aroused. He was looking at the girls in their bathing suits at the time so that leads me to believe that he is straight, but just fell for something about Naoto when they met (probably he mysteriousness, intelligence, and that cute hat. Thats what got me ;))

pete5883

01-23-2009, 10:58 AM

I don't think he is. Just his dislike for women manifesting in an extreme way.

Dead of Knight

01-23-2009, 02:58 PM

Yeah, it's just like how Rise isn't really a stripper... or is she? Never did her s link. ;)

kainzero

01-23-2009, 03:46 PM

I had a dream that I bought silken tofu from Rise because I wanted to cook tofu. And she gave me extra. And when I talked to her, it was Persona-style where her portrait came up on the side.

Ski Hawk

01-24-2009, 04:02 AM

Alright, I'm getting to the second to last dungeon. I paged ahead to read the boss page, and I realized I had better start power leveling before the rescue starts, something I've never done before. So now I'm around level 58, and I'll definitely make some stronger personas.

How hard is the rescue nanako boss? The book makes it seem really hard, but it also make the shadow naoto fight seem really hard, when it really wasn't. Would level 65 be a good level perhaps?

zephie

01-25-2009, 01:50 AM

How hard is the rescue nanako boss? The book makes it seem really hard, but it also make the shadow naoto fight seem really hard, when it really wasn't. Would level 65 be a good level perhaps?

It's pretty tough, around 65 should be plenty good enough a level to face him on though. Just make sure you have a Persona with solid defense, as well as a good healing spell you can use or items on hand. Also, be sure to have a Persona that can reflect an element, any element will do. Marakukaja will help a lot towards the end of the fight, when he starts spamming his high-damage/hit everyone attack.

JEKKI

01-25-2009, 04:03 AM

oh man... it's video time I say!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGksb9yhhr4

Mr. Beef

01-25-2009, 04:14 AM

:rofl:

Ski Hawk

01-25-2009, 12:20 PM

Well, I beat Nanako's heaven. The final boss was not as nearly as hard as the book said it would be, and I'm beginning to believe the guide hypes up the boss fights a bit too much. Although, I had power leveled a bit and was at level 66; ended up beating the dungeon in one day :D

jamezuva

01-26-2009, 11:24 PM

Ok, so I never played any of the Shin Megami Tensei games but I'm intrigued by all the praise these games have gotten. For someone who is completely new to the series, should I just get Persona 4 as my first experience or should I wait till a "definitive" version of the game comes out a la Persona 3 (if there's even one planned) since I have a huge backlog anyway. My concern is that sometimes these JRPGs become hard to find later on, but it still seems like you can get a special edition version of Persona 3 FES off amazon for $26 shipped (http://www.amazon.com/Persona-FES-Soundtrack-Artbook-Playstation-2/dp/B001G0MG8W/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1233026598&sr=8-1). I'm gonna guess you all would recommend Persona 3 FES too.

DarkSageRK

01-26-2009, 11:49 PM

Jest

01-26-2009, 11:54 PM

Get P3:FES. Play through that. If you like it get P4 and then you can better appreciate the series. And Atlus has said there won't be a "Persona 4: FES"

Vegan

02-01-2009, 04:14 AM

Hey guys, I noticed that after maxing out someone, I still see them with an exclamation point over their head every now and then. What's up with that? Any point in hanging out with them, or is it a waste of time?

MSI Magus

02-01-2009, 09:23 AM

Grrrrr stupid Yosuke making me work at Junes for a week. I didnt even get the stupid small S.Link boost since him and Chie were of course the only 2 freaking characters in the game I had maxed!

Something to try and get the topic rolling again which girls do you think are the hottest and which would you be most likely to date if they were real?

Personally

Hottest
Chie
Rise
Moon Chick - Name slips my mind

Most likely to date
Chie
Ayane
No third one that wold be likely. Maybe Rise but I might get too jealous. The moon chick would annoy me, Yukiko is too whiny and just not my style. Naoto is cute but way too young ;)

knightsdwn

02-01-2009, 02:50 PM

Naoto is cute but way too young ;)

Isn't Naoto that dude? I think you meant Nanako... which kind of freaks me out either way :-#.

I'm a sucker for Yukiko but Rise is close behind. Chie can get it too but chicks that can potentially kick my ass is a turn off.

MSI Magus

02-01-2009, 08:40 PM

Isn't Naoto that dude? I think you meant Nanako... which kind of freaks me out either way :-#.

I'm a sucker for Yukiko but Rise is close behind. Chie can get it too but chicks that can potentially kick my ass is a turn off.

Ya I meant to say Nanoko is cute but waaay to young heh. I dont really care for Yukiko.

Ski Hawk

02-01-2009, 09:05 PM

I just got the normal ending yesterday (I'll get the true ending later) and I teared up at the ending :(

thelonepig

02-01-2009, 09:13 PM

Ya I meant to say Nanoko is cute but waaay to young heh. I dont really care for Yukiko.

Nice save.

cletus

02-01-2009, 09:15 PM

Naoto's got that cute hat she's always wearing but I'm gonna go with Yukiko. She seems like the most normal of the girls. I like that face she makes when she comes to your room for sex too. Chie's to much of a tomboy and Rise is to needy and clingy. I didn't get far enough along the s.links for any of the others to really have a opinion.

cindersphere

02-02-2009, 08:56 AM

Just finished this game and I have to say something about the ending left me feeling slighted.

Vegan

02-02-2009, 01:09 PM

Just finished this game and I have to say something about the ending left me feeling slighted.

Hmm I haven't finished yet, but I have to say... how disappointed can you really be over a JRPG ending? Are you really playing for an enthralling story? That's not to say that we shouldn't demand better, but it's hard to feel let down when the current state of the medium keeps expectations low. So far for me the game is just one big episode of Scooby Doo.

bigl523

02-02-2009, 01:23 PM

Hmm I haven't finished yet, but I have to say... how disappointed can you really be over a JRPG ending? Are you really playing for an enthralling story? That's not to say that we shouldn't demand better, but it's hard to feel let down when the current state of the medium keeps expectations low. So far for me the game is just one big episode of Scooby Doo.

I thought JRPG's were all about story. Whether or not one can fully comprehend the story is different topic.

Rodimus

02-02-2009, 05:07 PM

As for JRPG having a bad story I could think of worse offenders than P4. With that said I was very satisfied with both the story and ending(s)

keithp

02-02-2009, 11:09 PM

I thought JRPG's were all about story. Whether or not one can fully comprehend the story is different topic.

I dunno, Persona 3's ending wasn't great IMO. But getting there was hella fun!

I'll prolly pick P4 up soon--so is it pretty universally accepted that P4 whoops P3's butt?

I've still got FES to play through, but if P4 is that much better I think I'll put it on the back burner...err, FARTHER to the back that is!...and just start P4.

thelonepig

02-03-2009, 12:50 AM

I'll prolly pick P4 up soon--so is it pretty universally accepted that P4 whoops P3's butt?

I preferred P3 in nearly every way, but that doesn't make P4 at all a bad game. To be fair, it took me some time to get used to the changes in P4 (dungeon camera, color scheme, surprising enemies) and I don't think I ever got entirely passed them.

MSI Magus

02-03-2009, 09:29 AM

I preferred P3 in nearly every way, but that doesn't make P4 at all a bad game. To be fair, it took me some time to get used to the changes in P4 (dungeon camera, color scheme, surprising enemies) and I don't think I ever got entirely passed them.

I personally am torn. I liked P3 better in many ways but P4 was more streamlined. I wish I could mix the 2 games somehow it would be perfect!

Vegan

02-03-2009, 01:11 PM

P4 took everything about P3 and tweaked it to make it better. I also like how there's not as much emphasis on grinding, and that each dungeon is a drastic change in scenery. They're short and sweet, and that's perfect. P3 felt like "Tartarus: The Game" but P4 doesn't feel like that.

bigl523

02-03-2009, 01:22 PM

I haven't finished the game yet (sep. 6 right now) but the battle system/dungeon crawling in p4 is much better than p3. I do miss the floors where the stairs were right next to the previous set of stairs though :)

MSI Magus

02-03-2009, 01:29 PM

I totally agree that the gameplay is better and that its nice having new settings. There are other improvements too like being allowed to press Square and warp to a different part of a building your in. But everything else I dont think P4 has a huge win in. The story I was kind of split but would probally give to P4. The cast I am really split on but again would probally give to P4(though I really miss Junpei and hate Yukiko). The S.Links I think I liked in P3 more and the town/setting/school I liked in P3 better.

Vegan

02-03-2009, 03:17 PM

I do miss the floors where the stairs were right next to the previous set of stairs though :)

God, me too. That's only happened to me once in P4. I also miss being able to spread out.

Rodimus

02-03-2009, 04:56 PM

I'll prolly pick P4 up soon--so is it pretty universally accepted that P4 whoops P3's butt?

I liked P4 more than P3 but I wouldn't say it kicked it's butt, I loved them both. P4 is still fresh in my mind so maybe I'm not thinking objectivly.

The great thing is that they are clearly diffrent games. I think this is a important, if P4 was an exact copy paste it would feel cheap. Efforts where made to make the gameplay a little diffrent wheather you like them or not.

thelonepig

02-03-2009, 10:05 PM

I'm surprised that there are so many people that like the P4 gameplay better. I think to some degree you're getting the overall gameplay and the ability to control your party mixed. While the latter is definitely a gameplay element (and improvement), many other parts of the battle system were tweaked (for the worse, IMO).

It's too hard to sneak up on the shadows. First strike seems largely random until you've leveled up beyond the shadow you are attacking. The camera through the dungeons is much more difficult to work with.

As for the battle system itself, it was too easy to manipulate - especially since you could do a second attack if you hit one weakness, regardless of how the other characters/shadows reacted to the attack.

I am in agreement with magus, however, I'd love to see a hybrid of the two.

Vegan

02-04-2009, 02:21 AM

As for the battle system itself, it was too easy to manipulate - especially since you could do a second attack if you hit one weakness, regardless of how the other characters/shadows reacted to the attack.

Yeah but the same goes for when they attack your party.

Oh wait -- I find that incredibly annoying and not "strategic" at all. Yeah, that change was for the worse.

knightsdwn

02-07-2009, 01:45 AM

Wtf... Naoto's a chick?!? That caught me off guard a little bit... but I would have probably figured as much if I paid more attention to the dialogue. :-#

willardhaven

02-07-2009, 01:50 AM

Yeah but the same goes for when they attack your party.

Oh wait -- I find that incredibly annoying and not "strategic" at all. Yeah, that change was for the worse.

Overall I think P3 bests P4 in terms of battle system and in-game control.

I think some of the tweaks in P4 are great (party control) and some suck (new guard/weakness rules, new horrible dungeon camera).

Still a fun game, even if it's not as polished as P3.

pete5883

02-07-2009, 09:34 AM

Wtf... Naoto's a chick?!? That caught me off guard a little bit... but I would have probably figured as much if I paid more attention to the dialogue. :-#
It's supposed to catch you off guard.

fatbeer

02-07-2009, 03:40 PM

Wtf... Naoto's a chick?!? That caught me off guard a little bit... but I would have probably figured as much if I paid more attention to the dialogue. :-#

It didn't caught me off guard at all. They did a horrible job concealing the voice.

bigl523

02-07-2009, 08:05 PM

Speaking of Naoto I liked the part where they go to the doctor's office and Rise is looking at Naoto's stats...where does she hide em??

knightsdwn

02-09-2009, 03:28 PM

Speaking of Naoto I liked the part where they go to the doctor's office and Rise is looking at Naoto's stats...where does she hide em??

Probably pulling a Hilary Swank from Boys Don't Cry. I wonder if Naoto wears anything other then the boy's school uniform later on in the game...

Razzuel

02-23-2009, 04:20 PM

I just picked this up. After watching the Endurance Runs on Giant Bomb, the Amazon deal pushed me over the edge.

I still have not played Persona 3 even though I own it, so hopefully Persona 4 does not spoil me.

knightsdwn

02-23-2009, 06:04 PM

I still have not played Persona 3 even though I own it, so hopefully Persona 4 does not spoil me.

There's a short cameo of a character from P3 but you won't notice it anyway ;).

I finished the game yesterday after 87+ hours of gameplay. All the endings were sad in a way, especially the bad one. It might just be wishful thinking but I'd love to see a FFX2-esque sequel. Perhaps the MC comes back to Inaba after several years to see that the fog has come back in the TV world or some shit like that.

Now I need to find a new RPG to preoccupy myself... any suggestions? :)

Rodimus

02-23-2009, 07:06 PM

Glad to see you picked it up, hope you enjoy it as much as I did. I miss playing this game, it was my 08' GOTY. I'm thinking about going back and playin P3 again. But Star Ocean is coming out in a week. I can't play 2 RPGs at once.

Brian9824

02-24-2009, 11:37 AM

Still working on my copy, havent had that much time. Just got back from my field trip from Port Island.

cletus

02-24-2009, 10:45 PM

That field trip was one of my favorite parts of the game. I only wish they would have met more of Persona 3's cast then just those few.

Vegan

02-25-2009, 11:03 PM

Damn, I'm RIGHT at the end (last boss) and now I have to go out of town tomorrow until Monday. This is going to be a painful wait.

Brian9824

02-26-2009, 09:55 AM

Just finished Secret Laboratory in one trip. Was it just me or were the bosses their some of the easiest in the entire game? The boss was hitting my weakness and doing like 120 damage, it was kinda a joke.

bvharris

03-02-2009, 01:44 AM

I just picked this up in the Amazon Gold Box this week, and... wow.. I haven't even touched another game since I put it in. I'm kind of ashamed as an RPG fan that this is my first time playing this series. I'm definitely going to go back and at least play P3 now.

eastshore4

03-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Okay, I'm sure this is a dumb question and I'm sorry if it's been discussed before but even after reading gamefaqs I still need a bit of an explanation...

How exactly does the weather system in P4 work in regards to saving people trapped in the tv world? I guess on a foggy day they get killed off unless you save them in time, but I still don't get when that is. I read that it's after a rainy day, usually two weeks, but I look at my weather forecast and it looks like there's a couple of rainy days on there. Is it all based on chance that it may or may not fog up after a day of rain, or are you always guaranteed two weeks before the fog sets in?

Perhaps someone can also advise me on how to approach the game pacing-wise. When the raven-haired girl goes missing I tried to clear out that dungeon immediately because I was under the impression you had to do it ASAP since the characters considered it an urgent issue, but I just get my ass handed to me by the bosses so I'm guessing you gotta spend some time boosting your levels. Can someone suggest a good balance of time I should be dedicating to dungeon hacking and how much I should be working on school life stuff each week?

Vegan

03-02-2009, 04:14 PM

It tells you numerous times that fog comes after several days of rain.

danny8k

03-02-2009, 11:22 PM

I'm sure someone already answered this question before ^^, but do you need to have played a persona game before (1-3) to fully enjoy persona 4?

it looks like an awesome game but I don't have time for so many rpgs ^^

Rodimus

03-02-2009, 11:25 PM

^ No you don't. They do have a cameo in P4 of a minor NPC character from P3, but the stories & characters are completly seperate.

danny8k

03-02-2009, 11:29 PM

^ No you don't. They do have a cameo in P4 of a minor NPC character from P3, but the stories & characters are completly seperate.

awesome ;)
thanks for the quick reply!

Rodimus

03-02-2009, 11:33 PM

No problem, I hope you enjoy it.

bigl523

03-03-2009, 07:45 AM

Finally about to start the final true dungeon. Hopefully I won't have to do tooooo much grinding.

Vegan

03-03-2009, 01:07 PM

Finally about to start the final true dungeon. Hopefully I won't have to do tooooo much grinding.

Ditto. Love the game, but I'd kind of like to just wrap up the ending, and not have some ridiculously difficult fight to go through.

bigl523

03-03-2009, 01:40 PM

Part of my grinding is going to involve getting all the persona that I can. Unfortunately I was unable to max out moon, hanged man, and strength :(

Masterkyo

03-03-2009, 06:56 PM

Just got P4 today with free art book from amazon under $26 shipped ;)

bigl523

03-05-2009, 08:58 PM

Any tips on power leveling the MC and persona's? I'm level 82 at the last dungeon and I'm only getting like 1000 exp from battles on the 8th floor. Help!

thelonepig

03-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Any tips on power leveling the MC and persona's? I'm level 82 at the last dungeon and I'm only getting like 1000 exp from battles on the 8th floor. Help!

None whatsoever. You're overleveled. Go beat the game already. :D

bigl523

03-05-2009, 10:03 PM

But there are still persona's that require level 87 and up!! GOTTA CATCH'EM ALL!

evildeadjedi

03-05-2009, 10:12 PM

Just got my copy with the art book in the mail today from Amazon.

bvharris

03-06-2009, 12:35 PM

Just got my copy with the art book in the mail today from Amazon.

Enjoy! I got it from the DotD as well, best 26 bucks I've ever spent. I can already tell I'm going to play this game through at least a few times.

Vegan

03-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Enjoy! I got it from the DotD as well, best 26 bucks I've ever spent. I can already tell I'm going to play this game through at least a few times.

Christ, where are you going to find the free time?

bigl523

03-06-2009, 01:27 PM

Seriously. I'm 92 hours in on my first play through, I would expect a second run to take at least 50.

bvharris

03-06-2009, 02:19 PM

Christ, where are you going to find the free time?

I'm not saying I'm going to do it immediately. :lol:

I've played FFVI through probably 20-25 times, and that's over 15 years. Right now I'm feeling the same way about P4.

bjstucker

03-09-2009, 08:36 PM

Won this game & the booster pack (bear/calendar/cd/shirt)

happy

03-13-2009, 10:36 PM

I just want to recommend everyone check out giantbomb's video series playing persona 4. They have 25 videos so far (each between 15 and 50 minutes - mainly about 20), going through the end of the first dungeon. It's just them playing the game and talking (neither of them have played it before). I find it quite entertaining, and it's interesting to watch how other people approach their RPGs. You'll find all of them if you click the endurance run link on their videos page.

I'm hoping they do it with Nocturne next because I never finished that and had no idea what was going on (of course at this pace, releasing a 20 min video every day, Persona 4 will take them most of the year)

Brian9824

03-18-2009, 12:38 PM

Just finished up the dungeon where you rescue Nanako. Final boss killed me once, mainly because i had buffed my party members attack right before he took all 3 of them over LOL. 2nd time i raped him hard. Wish i had more time to really spend on the games, think i put in around 55 hours so far.

mentos888

03-20-2009, 02:16 PM

i'm actually thinking i might complete this game, since the story is pretty interesting and i'm not a big fan of random battles. compared to nocturne, which was pretty hard and less forgiving in the battle system. plus, the story in nocturne was kinda blah (played for about 30 hours i think), personas a little harder to collect, and funky mazes. eh, i do still kinda like nocturne though don't get me wrong.

Brian9824

03-20-2009, 06:24 PM

Well bad ending is um well bad. Gotta go work on the good ending now.

Vegan

03-20-2009, 08:30 PM

The real ending isn't that different, actually. It's what's in between that's interesting, and totally changes things. I feel bad for anyone who plays not knowing that there's so much more content at the end that can be easily missed.

mentos888

03-26-2009, 01:11 PM

is there any way to check the main character's stat level (e.g. on expression, courage, diligence, understanding, knowledge?) there probably isn't but just curious.

bigl523

03-26-2009, 01:27 PM

There is! Go to the status menu and look at the MC and it will show you his stats.

Vegan

03-26-2009, 05:37 PM

There is! Go to the status menu and look at the MC and it will show you his stats.

Imagine that.

mentos888

04-09-2009, 07:08 PM

funny, i never even pressed that status button on the main menu...only a few times. haha. anyways, i got the true ending today after getting the bad ending (and going WTF?!?!), so the P4 game is pretty cool... i started Persona 3 awhile back but was kind of turned off by all the dark brooding atmosphere and only got an hour into it. So...gonna try it out again. Anyone else here think P4 is better than P3?

McBain

04-09-2009, 08:22 PM

Are you sure you got the true ending and not the normal ending? The true ending involves tackling another dungeon after meeting up with all the people you maxed out social links with.

P3 and P4 are definitely different games. Pretty much P3 is more epic from what I hear and P4 is lighthearted.

mentos888

04-10-2009, 11:53 AM

yah, i did....the P4 bad ending was pretty horrible and dark. in the true ending i went through that extra dungeon and fighting that last BIG boss. just started P3 again and kinda liking it so far (although the graphics are better in P4)... one thing i liked in P3 is that once you enter your dorm building, you can sort of go in and out without the game advancing to the next day. i guess i gotta give the game time to enjoy it more.

Oktoberfest

07-05-2009, 03:02 AM

I really think Persona 4 is the better game, mainly because of the improvements in design over Persona 3 (having control of your characters, knowing what each spell actually does, having Guard command, the more variety in the dungeons, being able to switch locations just by pressing square, among others). The voiceacting is a lot better in P4 too, I thought.

Backlash

08-10-2009, 03:42 PM

I just started P4 (on April 20) and I have a question about flow of events/time. In P3, you could spend your anfternoon doing a Social Link and still dungeon crawl later. It seems like in P4 you have to either do an S Link OR go into the TV, but then your evening is free (although I'm not sure what I can use that time for besides studying anyway). Is that true? Or can I somehow do an S Link and go into the TV on the same day?

Vegan

08-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Oktoberfest

08-10-2009, 03:54 PM

as you progress through the game, you will find many more things to do during the evening, however. But yes in the afternoon its either TV or nothing else

Rodimus

08-10-2009, 05:15 PM

Even tough your options seem limited in P4 you do level faster and the game progresses quicker as oppsosed to P3. From what I remember playing through each dungeon twice should net you plenty of experiance and is perfered since your second run normally grants you a nice weapon at the end. Other than that you'll have a good amount of time to level up S.Links.