New XBOX Experience - General Discussion

[cochesecochese]

They're refurb drives so...probably not a whole whole lot.

[Winnopeg]

Indeed, only giving me the above option as well. I just bought a 20GB hard drive on eBay three days ago for the system, I was really hoping to nab that memory card. :( http://i36.tinypic.com/214plle.png

*Note: This is for an Arcade, maybe that's why?

[SynGamer]

I'm going to get the 512MB memory card for my brothers Arcade. I figure he can put it in his slot 2 and use his first memory card for game saves and such. I don't trust the refurbed 20 GB HDD...

[ikariwarriors]

Awesome, time to get a free memory card :)

[aknowlesjr]

cool deal by microsoft, but this does me no good since i bought the real system and not the arcade. sorry, but i can't help but to insult arcade owners.

[Monsta Mack]

Sweet deal. MS isn't going to lose much if naything on the refurb 20 gig drives. Maybe $10? Memory Cards I have no idea, their markup must be huge on those.

[Richlough]

I guess next time [Xbox 720(?)] they'll all come with hard drives .

This is pretty much admitting that .

[Goodeye]

Man this thing is smart. I have a core but I think it checks to see if you have downloaded a ton of stuff. Like I have I have and says yeah your full of it and wont let you go through. They wanted to make sure no one abused this.

[Dream to Dream]

Via Kotaku...

It emerged last week that Microsoft's NXE upgrade would require 128MB of free space and might therefore be out of reach to some Arcade owners.

Microsoft promised that some kind of 'storage solution' was in the works and has just released details of an upgrade program to ensure under-specced consoles can receive the dashboard replacement.

www.xboxstorageupgrade.com recommends either clearing some space by removing saved content or entering your Serial Number and Console Id to see if you are eligible for either a free 512 MB memory card or a 20 GB hard-drive for $19.99. We have had unconfirmed rumors that the hard drives are refurbs. Microsoft has been contacted for comment.

Enjoy the New Xbox Experience and Xbox LIVE![Xbox Storage Upgrade - thanks to Magnum1024k for the tip]

The site can be found by going here (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/hardware/memoryupdate/default.htm) and following the link. The free memory card is only available to owners of 360s that lack storage devices or included memory cards too small to contain the update. In addition, the HDD is bundled with 3 months of LIVE Gold, so the cost is actually $30.

BTW, first deal post, so forgive any screw-ups. Thanks!

[CombatFrog]

I JUST came here to post that and you beat me by minutes! :p

Anyway, REALLY good deal for arcade/core owners.

You might want to add that you can get the 20GB HDD for $20 OR the 20GB HDD with 3 months of live for $30.

[Sousanator]

Even though I have an elite, I wouldn't mind getting a free memory card.
Too bad I can't though

[SimaYi]

Here we go, 512MB Memory Cards and 20GB HDD's will be selling for dirt cheap within weeks. I guess I should sell my spare 20GB HDD now.

[Guerrilla]

That's pretty cool.

[Quintox]

The free memory card is only available to owners of 360's with insufficient memory cards
What does this mean?

[Dream to Dream]

I JUST came here to post that and you beat me by minutes! :p

Anyway, REALLY good deal for arcade/core owners.

You might want to add that you can get the 20GB HDD for $20 OR the 20GB HDD with 3 months of live for $30.

I didn't see that option, I thought they forced the LIVE on you. That's pretty exciting, I'll have to look it up.

This is great news for me. I recently got an Arcade because I was too much of a miser to spend the extra for the HDD. Guess I lucked out.

[Dream to Dream]

What does this mean?

Meaning that in my case, I got an Arcade unit which includes a 256 card. Since the update only needs 128, they didn't offer a free card to me, only the discounted HDD.

Sorry for the poor phrasing.

[SteveDaWonder]

Cheap HDDs?

I feel screwed. I want to upgrade from a 20 to a 60.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Balls. Gotta rid of this 20GB, now, before it becomes utterly worthless.

[halofreak64]

Cheap HDDs?

I feel screwed. I want to upgrade from a 20 to a 60.

me too Ive had my xbox since launch wheres my option to upgrade HDD

[akokonas]

That explains why Target was selling these on clearance for 24 dollars if you were lucky to find one. HAHAHAHA Sounds like a good deal and Microsoft is doing the right thing here. You wpild be stupid not to take the 20 gig HDD over the 512 MB

[h0mi]

Correct me if I am wrong but if you have a core system, you can get a free memory card or the hard drive for $20. Arcade owners can only opt for the 20gb hard drive for $30 with 3 months of xbox live. I think the options are unique to each console owner.

I owned a premium and bought an arcade so I've already got a 20gb hard drive. I'd be tempted to buy another one except I really want a 60gb; the 20gb drive just isn't enough space for the game installs I want to do so I'm not seeing the 20gb as worth buying even if it'd only cost me $30. Memory card? I'd be down for a free memory card but having snagged a bunch of 64mb and 512mb cards for $5 a piece (thank you sears/sears essential/walmart clearance sales) I don't need another memory card.

[blk00civicsi]

Now to wait for another Arcade deal from Dell/Amazon and pick up an HDD for $20

[Hybrid5006]

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[SubjectNameHere]

I'm lost here. I have two arcades but I'm not eligible. I have under 100Mb free on each memory card. How is this thing determining "Congratulations! According to our records you have the necessary hardware and storage space to enjoy the new Xbox Experience"? Is it possible because my friend brought his HDD over for Rock Band 2 and connected it once that now my console is stained by that drive or what?

[Dream to Dream]

I'm lost here. I have two arcades but I'm not eligible. I have under 100Mb free on each memory card. How is this thing determining "Congratulations! According to our records you have the necessary hardware and storage space to enjoy the new Xbox Experience"? Is it possible because my friend brought his HDD over for Rock Band 2 and connected it once that now my console is stained by that drive or what?

Looks that way. Some folks at Joystiq are saying that MS won't offer an upgrade for their Arcades that have (or apparently, have had) a HDD hooked up.

[Penguin1084]

edit:

nvm.

[shoe478]

Anyway to look up the console ID without turning the thing on?

[kathos]

Godamn, so there really is no point in getting a Pro or Elite huh?

Wait... won't games have forced installs now? And won't that need more than 20GBs (sooner or later)?

[BigPopov]

So, can you essentially buy a new Arcade and turn around and buy a refurbished HD for an extra $30?

[gotenex]

I got an Arcade and I was offered $30 for a refurbished 20 GB and 3 months of Gold. I'd really prefer a 60 or 120 GB, but this is too good to pass up.

[62t]

now i kinda wish i jumped on the arcade with free lego batman at amazon

[chubbyninja1319]

Have you noticed that a bunch of news reports and posts on this topic are being pulled? Shennanigans, me thinks! Something is afoot!

[cochesecochese]

What, you mean on this board specifically? It's called merging/pruning to keep the clutter and redundancy under control. Threads for this topic were started like 5 times this afternoon alone.

[Quintox]

I really need a memory card...argg

[Bronson-Lee]

Gimme your serials~! :p

[Escargoexpress]

Oh wow, I just ended up buying a 20GB hard drive on ebay for 30 dollars after cashback.
Could have been worse, I guess

[J7.]

No point in buying the premium anymore lol, unless you're dying for an extra 40 gigs.

[bobo2k4]

Any news on that 60GB HDD that bundle that is supposedly including 3-month XBL and a headset for $100?

[Justin42]

Wow, I bought a Core way back during the Tower clearance sale (RIP Tower) and a hard drive, but I think I may get myself an extra HD for the day I may end up with another 360... that way if I see any awesome deals on the Arcade I can jump on them.

Is there a time limit to when you have to take advantage of this?

[RBH]

Godamn, so there really is no point in getting a Pro or Elite huh?

Wait... won't games have forced installs now? And won't that need more than 20GBs (sooner or later)?
The installs are optional, not forced.

[Nibi]

Pretty well played by MS on this one.

[killer9]

qualify for a 29.99 hd and 3 month card eh

[dman1869]

How do I find my console id if I can't turn on the system (3 red rings)? I see an id number by the serial number on the back but there is way more than the 12 digits needed. And even if I take out the serial # which is in the id # as well that only leaves me eight digits.

[greyzieoriental]

i have an arcade console, punched in my serial # and console id and this is the message i get

"Congratulations! According to our records you have the necessary hardware and storage space to enjoy the new Xbox Experience."

that's weird i didn't qualify, according to my records my system came with a 256mb memory unit, not sure if there was an arcade console that didn't come with a memory unit, oh well

[BoneMonkey80]

Godamn, so there really is no point in getting a Pro or Elite huh?

Wait... won't games have forced installs now? And won't that need more than 20GBs (sooner or later)?


No not FORCED you have the option to install it or not unlike the ps3.

[Rebelphoenix]

i have an arcade console, punched in my serial # and console id and this is the message i get

"Congratulations! According to our records you have the necessary hardware and storage space to enjoy the new Xbox Experience."

that's weird i didn't qualify, according to my records my system came with a 256mb memory unit, not sure if there was an arcade console that didn't come with a memory unit, oh well

you can load it onto that memory unit but its going to take up over half of it.

[Medium_Pimpin]

I read on another forum that they can read the amount of space available for this, so you may want to try and fill up your memory stick/HDD with demo's and then try.

[BoneMonkey80]

reeeeeeallly?

* update ackk I tried it didn't work for me lol

[mkelehan]

So the Arcade is now, essentially, a $230 20GB system with a free memory unit for taking your saves and profiles to friends' places. Great deal.

[KaneRobot]

I guess I'll give it a shot since I have a core. I wouldn't mind the free memory card.

[awp]

Would it screw up your system if you keep switching hard drives? I have a two-year-old core (purchased a 20 GB hard drive separately), but would like to get another 20 GB HD for movies, etc. with NetFlix coming. Not sure how much of a pain in the a** it would be to keep switching back and fourth, but I can't afford a 120GB drive either.

For $20, it might be worth a shot.

[awp]

^^ Just tried and didn't qualify. Guess they must have a record of purchased hard drives attached to your machine. I wish they had a hard-drive updgrade program so I could upgrade my 20 GB to a 120 GB.

[espionage]

Qualified for the $20 (only) hard drive with no $10 3-month Live subscription for my Arcade unit. Here is my setup and why I think it happened.

I have a Pro unit and an Arcade unit. I'm on my 4th Pro unit from the red ring so when I saw that I was able to get an Arcade unit on Amazon last December for like $200, I figured I'd just buy it as a backup. I have my Pro unit hooked up to my main TV and my Arcade hooked up to my PC (second monitor of my dual monitor set up). Both are connected to my router and my profile is stored on my memory card. I play on both my Arcade and my Pro (usually when my wife wants to watch TV, etc.) by moving my memory card back and forth, usually with the save files. My hard drive for my pro is where I just download demos and extra content but I still keep my main saves for everything on my 256 gig memory card so I can switch between consoles with no problems. As of this past weekend, I was already down to less than 100 megs on that memory card and I never hooked up my 20 gig HD to my Arcade unit.

Microsoft probably saw that I was a user connecting to Xbox Live on an Arcade Unit with a memory card with less than the required space needed for the update and gave me the offer of just the hard drive only. I believe that if I had more than 128 megs when they performed the check, I would be ineligible for the hard drive offer. Also, I'm guessing that if I had ever hooked up a hard drive to my Arcade unit prior to their check, I would also be ineligible because they'd assume I really actually had a hard drive. I have no idea how the $10 3 month Gold thing happens. I'm guessing that's if you connect to Live on your Arcade unit but aren't a gold subscriber?

Cliffnotes: Seems like if you play on an Arcade unit and connect to Live without ever having a hard drive connected to your system and your memory card has less than 128 megs remaining, you will be eligible for the hard drive update on your Arcade unit.

[usickenme]

Cliffnotes: Seems like if you play on an Arcade unit and connect to Live without ever having a hard drive connected to your system and your memory card has less than 128 megs remaining, you will be eligible for the hard drive update on your Arcade unit.


I'm not sure. I just got an Arcade. I only have a few saves on it (I would guess I have 200+ MB free) and I qualified for the HD +3 Mos Xbox Live card for $30.

[rukasu]

Qualified for the $20 (only) hard drive with no $10 3-month Live subscription for my Arcade unit. Here is my setup and why I think it happened.
Cliffnotes: Seems like if you play on an Arcade unit and connect to Live without ever having a hard drive connected to your system and your memory card has less than 128 megs remaining, you will be eligible for the hard drive update on your Arcade unit.

I was trying to figure this out too since it happened to my friend and most likely it will happen to myself. It might be much simpler than them having a record of you "connecting" to LIVE: consider that they have your download history tied to each console, and if your download history for your Arcade console contains any item greater than 256MB, they have a way of knowing that you can handle it and require no upgrade.

So yeah. I'm thinking download history. Which means I'm screwed for hard-drive-swapping between two consoles, which sucks 'cause I'd rather have hard-drive-swapping be an option instead of a requirement. Maybe someone will alert them to this position and have them fix it. That'd be nice.

[bigdaddybruce44]

No point in buying the premium anymore lol, unless you're dying for an extra 40 gigs.

That extra 40GB will certainly come in handy with all of the new features, mainly the optional installs, coming to the 360, which is why I upgraded to the 120GB. Plus, I guess the purchase could be swayed by what free games you want to get.

[letmeinnow]

They should also let us that use the 64mb memory unit, trade in for a bigger one.I have my profile on the 64mb card instead of the HD so i can play on my brothers & friends Xbox.I wont be able to do that after the update.:bomb:

[Winnopeg]

They should also let us that use the 64mb memory unit, trade in for a bigger one.I have my profile on the 64mb card instead of the HD so i can play on my brothers & friends Xbox.I wont be able to do that after the update.:bomb:
if your friend has an HDD or another memory card, why not? As long as he's downloaded the update on his system, you're fine; your memory card should still only need to hold your small profile.

At least, I'm pretty sure... Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm bidding on a 64MB memory card on eBay right now. :p

[mkelehan]

if your friend has an HDD or another memory card, why not? As long as he's downloaded the update on his system, you're fine; your memory card should still only need to hold your small profile.

At least, I'm pretty sure... Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm bidding on a 64MB memory card on eBay right now. :p

The update itself takes no space. Your Avatar is what takes the space. So, a 64MB MU might not hold a profile anymore.

[homeland]

b.s.. i have a arcade and didn't work for me. Of course I have a hd.. but was hoping for a free 512 mb memory card

[BoneMonkey80]

did anyone go for the deal yet and how long for shipping?

[Winnopeg]

The update itself takes no space. Your Avatar is what takes the space. So, a 64MB MU might not hold a profile anymore.
Ahh, got it. Thanks a ton. :applause:

[er0k]

I got the deal no mention on how long for shipping. got the 20Gb drive and 3 months of Live Gold for 32.46 after tax. I also got a conformation email but it has no order # or anything.

[easper]

I've been in the market for an Arcade for a little while now. Just waiting for a reason to bite. I'd jump on this for the cheap HD and 3 months of Live, but so far I can't tell whether buying the current Arcade (holiday bundle or not) with the 256 MB card would disqualify me from the promotion. How many people have gotten an Arcade recently, do NOT have a hard drive (or at least have never attached one to their machine), and have successfully gotten this deal?

I imagine within a day or so there will be enough forum posts to come to a consensus on exactly what is needed to get this deal. I just want to make sure I'll be able to if I pick up an Arcade soon.

Thanks!

[CYRiX]

If anyone wants to trade the memory card for the 20gb hard drive pm me, I can get the $20 20GB HDD for you but I can't get the memory card.

[turls]

This reminds me of the government bailout. Let's reward the people that were dumb enough to buy a 360 without a HD in the first place, why don't we. And like the poster above mentions, completely neglect the even dumber (but more forward-thinking) people who fell for buying a miniscule 64MB memory card (to go along with the 360 with a HD) which should have never even been offered in the first place. When the goofy DRM makes having that 64MB for backups pointless anyway. So the only thing its really good for is profiles, and if those won't fit any more. . .

Actually maybe I should say "cheap" since this is CAG instead of "dumb" but most people not here that did it are probably the "dumb" ones because they probably didn't have a source for a cheap HD to make up for the lack of one. So I guess props to Microsoft for rewarding the CAG's, anyway.

[tomaway]

I tried this... I have 20g version so no good ! lol :D

[Lawyers Guns N Money]

I've been in the market for an Arcade for a little while now. Just waiting for a reason to bite. I'd jump on this for the cheap HD and 3 months of Live, but so far I can't tell whether buying the current Arcade (holiday bundle or not) with the 256 MB card would disqualify me from the promotion. How many people have gotten an Arcade recently, do NOT have a hard drive (or at least have never attached one to their machine), and have successfully gotten this deal?

I imagine within a day or so there will be enough forum posts to come to a consensus on exactly what is needed to get this deal. I just want to make sure I'll be able to if I pick up an Arcade soon.

Thanks!
I got my Arcade a couple of weeks ago (with the free LEGO Batman on Amazon), and it qualified for the deal. Only have like 3 game saves on my 256MB card, so I don't think it goes by how much space you have left, just if you have a hard drive or not.

The deal I got was the $30 for the 20GB and 3 months of live. Like 32.xx after tax. No added costs for shipping.

[TomoyoN]

if your friend has an HDD or another memory card, why not? As long as he's downloaded the update on his system, you're fine; your memory card should still only need to hold your small profile.

At least, I'm pretty sure... Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm bidding on a 64MB memory card on eBay right now. :p

SMALL Profile depends on your gamerscore/games played... My profile is already hitting the 45-50MB range [100k+ gamerscore]...

[easper]

I got my Arcade a couple of weeks ago (with the free LEGO Batman on Amazon), and it qualified for the deal. Only have like 3 game saves on my 256MB card, so I don't think it goes by how much space you have left, just if you have a hard drive or not.

The deal I got was the $30 for the 20GB and 3 months of live. Like 32.xx after tax. No added costs for shipping.

Great! Thanks. That's what I wanted to hear. I'm still kicking myself for waiting too long and missing out on that Amazon deal. I'd love to hold out for something similar to hit again, but I may just go ahead and pull the trigger this time. A cheap hard drive and a few months of Live is a good deal any way you slice it.

[JJSP]

I know this isn't the right place for this, but I figure it'll get some attention here.

I've got a 20GB HD from my premium that I've just wiped clean. It's in great shape (still has the little protective sticker) and hasn't been banned/abused in any way. If anyone is interested in it, I'll gladly let it go for what Microsoft is charging + $5 shipping ($25 shipped). That's negotiable as well, and I've got a bunch of 1-month cards in case someone would rather create a similar bundle to what MS is putting together. Just send me a PM and I'll get back to you.

[jaybird]

I'm not sure how they're basing this.

I have a 1-year old arcade unit that came with the 512 MB memory card. All I have on there are a few game saves.

I also have an Elite 120 and switch that HD to my arcade sometimes.

I put in my serial and got the 20 GB drive for $19.99. Go figure.

[Deagle814]

Hey guys I've got a question here that i'd like someone to answer if they could.I currently have a pro xbox 360 but its the oldest model though 2006 manufacturing date.And it sounds like a freaking vacuum when running a game and I've gone thru about 6 360's and I have a feeling this one will die soon as well so I'm thinking about selling it and buying the arcade instead but the thing is if I log in with my old gamertag on the new xbox 360 arcade i'm planning to purcahase do you think I won't be elgible anymore for the offer of the 20g hdd for 20$ since they might pick up some info that I had a pro before and downloaded a lot of things?Should I create a new gamertag when getting the arcade?

I'd be very thankfull if someone answers me this question.

Thank you

[J7.]

Hey guys I've got a question here that i'd like someone to answer if they could.I currently have a pro xbox 360 but its the oldest model though 2006 manufacturing date.And it sounds like a freaking vacuum when running a game and I've gone thru about 6 360's and I have a feeling this one will die soon as well so I'm thinking about selling it and buying the arcade instead but the thing is if I log in with my old gamertag on the new xbox 360 arcade i'm planning to purcahase do you think I won't be elgible anymore for the offer of the 20g hdd for 20$ since they might pick up some info that I had a pro before and downloaded a lot of things?Should I create a new gamertag when getting the arcade?

I'd be very thankfull if someone answers me this question.

Thank you
Excellent question, I would like to know too. Does this deal work on brand new arcades bought today? Because I might be interested in selling my old 360 to get a Jasper.

[easper]

Just bought an Arcade last night. It hasn't shipped yet so I haven't had the chance to see whether I'm eligible for the promo (though I'm pretty sure I am). But I wanted some advice and figured you guys would be the ones to ask:

My friend recently bought a 120 GB HD, and offered to sell me his old 20 GB drive if I bought an Arcade (this was before the Microsoft deal came up). If he matches the $20 price, is it better to take a HD that hasn't given him any problems but which he's had since the system's launch, or go with the refurbished drive?

The devil you know, or the devil you don't?

(If this isn't the best thread for this question, please direct me to something better.)

Thanks!

[Corvin]

I'd go with your buddy's drive. Who knows where MS is pulling the refurbs from.

[RichMeisterMan]

Like Corvin said.

Quite frankly though, I would just give the 20gb hard drive to you if I were in your buddy's shoes.

[easper]

Like Corvin said.

Quite frankly though, I would just give the 20gb hard drive to you if I were in your buddy's shoes.

Hmm. Wanna be my best friend?

Seriously, though, I offered to compensate him so I'm more than willing to do so. I think you guys just confirmed my feeling about taking a known over an unknown, even if his drive is almost 3 years old. I can't remember reading anything about 360 drives going bad, anyway.

[62t]

Glad I just sold my new 20GB for $60 shipped on ebay

[jaybird]

My 20GB shipped today via UPS, so they're on the ball.

[BoneMonkey80]

how long is shipping jaybird? wow that sounds fast!

[Spybreak8]

Well that's crap, I spent 150 bucks on a 120gb hard drive and arcade owners can get a 20 gb one for 20 bucks!?

[hankmecrankme]

I am on my 3rd Core, all used with my 20 GB HDD I bought with the first one, and I got in on the 512 MB memory card. :)

I almost bought one months ago, but decided not to.

[IXI Dragunz IXI]

http://www.xboxstorageupgrade.com/hh/web/home/hhauthentication.jsp;jsessionid=6C557D90871149DD94 B97CBE7A62BE52?ssLocale=en_US



Courtesy of 360kimbo: (http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=14702)

Quote:
If you head over to Xbox.com, there is a service that will scan your serial number and console ID to ensure you don't have the 128 MB needed for the upgrade (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=898735#), then forward you to a page that will give you one of two different offers.

A refurbished 20 GB hard drive for $19.99 or a FREE 512 MB Memory Card (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=898735#).

Memory Update Support Website (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/hardware/memoryupdate/default.htm)
or
Memory Upgrade Service Website (http://www.xboxstorageupgrade.com/hh/web/home/hhauthentication.jsp?ssLocale=en_US)
This is Microsoft's storage solution for the NXE.




EDIT:
For anyone looking to buy a new aracade console (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=898735#), the cheapest price is at amazon.com with a $10 discount.
http://360-deals.com/blogs/weekday-d...0/13/3450.aspx (http://360-deals.com/blogs/weekday-deals/archive/2008/10/13/3450.aspx)






More info on HDD / memory unit offer:

Quote:
Originally Posted by iKiddo http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=899212#post899212)
Just in case there was any confusion over yesterday’s announcement regarding Microsoft’s Xbox 360 memory upgrades, the gaming giant confirmed to Videogaming247 this morning that gamers in Europe who own the non-HD 360 will get the upgrade as well.

Just like in the States, you will need 128Mb of memory to run the New Xbox Experience, and will able to choose fro the following options:

General

* Active Live members with no storage or with a 64mb MU: Offered 512mb for free or 20GB HDD for £12.99
* Active Live members with 256 or 512 MU but no HDD: Offered 20GB HDD for £12.99
* Console has not connected to XBL 12 month and doesn’t possess MU: Offered 20gb HDD and 3 month Xbox Live £19.99

Arcade console

* Active Live subscribers without a HDD: Offered 20gb HDD for £12.99
* Non active Live subscriber without a HDD and not connected to XBL within 12 months: 20gb HDD + 3 month Xbox Live for £19.99

Just like American versions, you will need to go here to input your console’s serial number to find out if it is eligible for an upgrade.





Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedsymphony http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=899236#post899236)
Just an FYI....

in the US version

CORE owners are given the option of a free 512MB MU or a $20 20GB HDD upgrade.

Arcade (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?p=898735#) owners are given the option of a $30 20GB HDD upgrade with 3 Months of Xbox Live.

The reason being that Arcade owners received a console with a 512MB MU already so they technically have the space for the upgdate... although not much.

keep in mind that the Arcade Consoles DO NOT include HD cables... so you'll have to buy those separate.

Also the reason the 20GB Pro consoles were discontinued is because the Pro now includes a 60GB hard drive... Some retailers (like Amazon.com) still have 20GB units in stock and they fetch about $260

[TerraBemani]

how long is shipping jaybird? wow that sounds fast!

Yeah I just ordered the 20GB HDD too. And got a email saying the order was processing. Just wondering how we know it's been shipped. And how long it takes to get to us too.

[bobo2k4]

Yeah I just ordered the 20GB HDD too. And got a email saying the order was processing. Just wondering how we know it's been shipped. And how long it takes to get to us too.


Same here.
I put my order in the day after the offer was announced and still haven't had any notice on shipping.

[TerraBemani]

Good luck getting microsoft to help you with this too. E-mail, phone and google all aren't getting me any real answers. I've given out my console Id and serial number, address, phone number, everything. The phone "support" is laughable at best. Funny how my cell dropped a call from there number -5- straight times too in a two day period. I have a late 2007 arcade model with the 256MB card too. And I just got the offer for the 20GB HDD for $20 only.

My guess there either backordered or they just don't give a shit and taking there time. I just assume both really at this point. The $21.39 charge hasn't cleared yet too on my card if that helps too.

[Corvin]

What's the rush? The NXE doesn't launch for another month. They've got 4 weeks to get the drives out.

[homeland]

was abit pissed, have core model since launch (it was when 360's were impossible to find) so technically the model I bought didn't have any storage devices, yet when I entered my info it say's i'm all set.. So I assume it knows if you've bought a hd out of your own pocket. Not that big of a deal. but the idea of a free memory card intrigued me.

[hankmecrankme]

Just got my free memory card, that was fast. Shipped Thursday, received today. Came with Worms XBLA, so I have that now too. I'm now "ready for the New Xbox Experience" according to the enclosed letter. ;)

I still think it's funny that people are getting rejected and I was on Live downloading stuff to my 20 GB when they OK'd me. Just got lucky, I guess. :)

[fart_bubble]

BOOOO!!!

No gameshows till the Spring [-(

[DestroVega]

BOOOO!!!

No gameshows till the Spring [-(

that's all I cared about... which means I could care less about the dashboard update for now.

[TerraBemani]

Just wondering if anyone has got there $20 20GB HDD's yet. Or a email that they've been shipped.

[xcoax]

I told my friend about the hard drive offer and he said when he went to fill it out somewhere in the fine print that he was required to get a netflix subscription. Anyone else notice this?

He isn't going to do it if he has to get Netflix and I don't want the guy to miss out on having live because I barely get to hang out with him as it is and if he doesn't have live it would suck even more.

[Lawyers Guns N Money]

I told my friend about the hard drive offer and he said when he went to fill it out somewhere in the fine print that he was required to get a netflix subscription. Anyone else notice this?

He isn't going to do it if he has to get Netflix and I don't want the guy to miss out on having live because I barely get to hang out with him as it is and if he doesn't have live it would suck even more.
You need a Netflix subscription if you want access to streaming movies, nothing more.

The asterisk at the bottom of the page: http://www.xboxstorageupgrade.com

[dmaul1114]

Yep, of course you need a netflix subscription. They aren't going to give away access to non-members. It's just another method, besides the PC or the box they sell, to watch the streaming movie library.

It's $8.99 a month for 1 dvd out at a time, unlimited per month and unlimited instant watch access. A damn good deal and I'd never give up my netflix account. The deals for 2 or 3 out at a time are good as well if you have time to watch more movies. I used too, but down graded when I got busier.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I have had a Netflix trial for a couple of weeks. I'm not in live with the service, but the ability to watch the movies through my Xbox is what will keep me.

[xcoax]

Ah, so it was just that. I didn't know if there were something further into the application that said you needed netflix too since my console isn't applicable.

Okay, so he's good to go and I get to call him an idiot... win/win situation.

[neworlbush25]

It would be really cool if one person was watching a DVD and your friends could watch it with you on live. That would be awesome, like movie night. But none of my friends have netflix, and neither do I

[thrustbucket]

It would be really cool if one person was watching a DVD and your friends could watch it with you on live. That would be awesome, like movie night. But none of my friends have netflix, and neither do I

That feature is called party movie viewing. It's planned and coming, but won't be available at launch.

[edytwinky]

The Netflix ability is what i'm looking forward to most.

[edytwinky]

You guys think I should get in on that $30 20 GB hard drive if I already have one I bought used?

[dmaul1114]

The Netflix ability is what i'm looking forward to most.

Same here. I've got a good 20 some movies/tv seasons in my instant watch queue in anticipation. I don't much like watching on the PC/Laptop. Have only watched some when traveling.

[greyzieoriental]

so for the netflix, will streaming movies and stuff kill your ISP's monthly bandwitdh?

[bubbafett4hire]

doesn't all traffic. i feel sorry for comcast people with there 200gb cap if a SD definition movie runs about 700MB (low ball) imagine that X the increased size of HD by how many movies your going to stream , plus the other traffic...YEP

[TerraBemani]

Just got this email today concerning my $20 20GB HDD:


"This message was sent to you at the request of MS / HARTE HANKS to notify you that the package information below has been transmitted to UPS. The package(s) may not have actually been placed with UPS for shipment. To verify when and if the shipment is tendered to UPS and its actual transit status, click on the tracking link below or contact MS / HARTE HANKS directly.
Important Delivery Information
Scheduled Delivery: 27-October-2008"

[Lawyers Guns N Money]

Just wondering if anyone has got there $20 20GB HDD's yet. Or a email that they've been shipped.
Got mine today. Has a little "refurbished in Mexico" sticker on the bottom, it made me chuckle. Other than that, you can't tell it's been refurbed, at least cosmetically.

I wasn't real happy with the packaging, it was just wrapped in one small piece of bubble wrap and stuffed in a box with a crumbled up piece of paper on top. I haven't hooked it up yet, but I hope the packaging was sufficient.

[akokonas]

The beta signup for the early NXE is already under way over at majornelson.com (http://www.majornelson.com)

[dmaul1114]

doesn't all traffic. i feel sorry for comcast people with there 200gb cap if a SD definition movie runs about 700MB (low ball) imagine that X the increased size of HD by how many movies your going to stream , plus the other traffic...YEP

Let me see if my math is correct here.

200GB= 200,000 MB.

200,000/700MB per movie=285.xxx SD movies you could watch.

Bandwith caps suck, but for most people they're really not an issue. I'll watch at most 4 or 5 instant watch movies a month, and I seldom download anything as I mainly just use the Net for surfing and e-mail and x-box live. I do download the occasinal game demo, video or DLC, but only once or twice a month.

That's said, I have Comcast, but we don't have an official cap policy in place yet in my area.

[blitz6speed]

Nice, hope i get in, all i want is the stupid game installs.

[bigdaddybruce44]

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/10/24/the-new-xbox-experience-preview-program.aspx

NXE Preview Program, by the way.

[tianxia]

Let's see if I get in. I want those game installs myself.

[Fahd]

"The New Xbox Experience Preview program (http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/10/24/the-new-xbox-experience-preview-program.aspx)"

Follow the guide for a chance to preview the new dashboard stuff..
Edit: Ah, someone beat me to it!

[wampa8jedi]

Sweet, signed up.

[LinkinPrime]

Damn it...I'd sign up now but I don't know my console id...guess I'll try when I get home from work.

[BackInBlack]

In for 2.

[jpw21683]

I cannot get to his website...must be getting hammered.

[dmaul1114]

I signed up. Can't wait for the Netflix feature. Game installs would be ok, but not very practical with a 20GB hard drive, and I won't upgrade as otherwise I don't need the space.

[Malik112099]

signed up. This would be cool to show off to my friends.

[ticalmc2k2]

Thanks, just signed up.

[LegendK7ll3r]

Thanks OP, hopefully I'll get in.

[Lord_Kefka]

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/10/24/the-new-xbox-experience-preview-program.aspx

NXE Preview Program, by the way.

Sweet. Totally signed up, hope I get in. Thanks man.

[Bretters]

Signed up!

[YodaEXE]

Thanks OP, I sent in my info, hopefully I'll get in.

[Pure Apathy]

I signed up as well.

[rodeojones903]

Hasn't the Netflix feature been delayed till next year?



Thanks OP. :D

[mmercer13]

I'm in, hopefully.

[classact]

im in

[SynGamer]

"We’re looking for a few thousand participants, so your chances of making it in are good"

I'm sure those of us that sign up tonight will get in if we qualify.

[Noodle Pirate!]

Cool. Thanks OP.
I never win contests, but it's always worth a shot I suppose.

[xbox_mole]

Signed up hopefully I get lucky!

[thrustbucket]

Except that it says nothing about first come first serve.

[MSUHitman]

I'm going to sign up when I get home tonight. Remember the console ID is NOT the same as the serial number. You will have to turn the 360 on and go to system information to find the console ID.

[thrustbucket]

Hasn't the Netflix feature been delayed till next year?


No. The ability to watch movies with your friends is delayed. As far as I know the ability to use netflix will be in at launch.

[spydey]

I signed up and am crossing my fingers.

[shinryuu]

I'm going to sign up when I get home tonight. Remember the console ID is NOT the same as the serial number. You will have to turn the 360 on and go to system information to find the console ID.
If you're too lazy to do that, you can just click here:
https://live.xbox.com/signup/UIPStartPage.aspx?appid=ConsoleLicenseTransfer
I remember seeing a console ID when they announced that DRM fix thing, so I just went there instead. =p

[D4rkewolfe]

Signed up as well, guess we'll see if I make the beta.

[D4rkewolfe]

Gamerscoreblog posted a preview on what you want to know about Netflix and the NXE.

http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2008/10/24/562028.aspx

Edit: Just read it...really didn't show me what I wanted to know heh, more what I already knew

[menikmati]

Signed up for the hell of it.

[neverletthem]

Thanks OP, signed up. Doubt I will get in, but hey, why not try?

[JJSP]

Signed up.

[Jesse_Dylan]

Nice, hope i get in, all i want is the stupid game installs.

Ditto on that. I *need* the game installs. My disc drive is not pleased with continuous usage, and I'm sick of disc read errors an hour or two into my session (not to mention having to listen to it whir, buzz, click and chug).

The new navigational features will be kind of nice, too. The old dashboard is not so great.

We'll get it a couple weeks early if we get selected. Although I guess I'll already be playing Fallout 3 on PC by then. Darn it. I want to play Fable II unmolested!

[cochesecochese]

Thanks for the heads up. Gave it a shot.

[GenDV138]

Signed up, thanks OP! Will be nice if some of us get to check this out early!

[Sharp Katana]

signed up thanks

[jmillion]

just signed up a hr ago.

[shutyourface]

signed up, i really want netflix and the installs.....fable 2 seems to get that drive spinnning like crazy!

[Richlough]

Who's going to step up and make a '360 game install size' thread ?

We're going to need one .

[KingBroly]

I guess it'll go up when November 19th comes, or whenever some people with a good hard drive start downloading. I MIGHT do it. But only if I get early access.

[blitz6speed]

Ditto on that. I *need* the game installs. My disc drive is not pleased with continuous usage, and I'm sick of disc read errors an hour or two into my session (not to mention having to listen to it whir, buzz, click and chug).

The new navigational features will be kind of nice, too. The old dashboard is not so great.

We'll get it a couple weeks early if we get selected. Although I guess I'll already be playing Fallout 3 on PC by then. Darn it. I want to play Fable II unmolested!

I have the same issues. I also got a 120 gig drive in anticipation of this update. Im ready to rock n roll.

[Monsta Mack]

Fable 2 was a 8.6 gig install or something like that from early impressions, and took 17 minutes to install.

[greyzieoriental]

damn the one day I didnt check majornelson.com and tthey do the Beta signup. I was checking all week but decided to play Castlevania Order of Ecclesia, well at least a beat a great game.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Signed up last night.

[darkd75]

Signed up....Hopefully I will get in! I wonder if the Netflix portion will be available for testing?

[screwkick]

per major nelson: all available slots have been filled, and sign up is now closed.

fyi

[Redrazorback]

Thanks OP. I signed up late last night. It would be nice to get in on this early. Netflix and games install sound very promising.

[thrustbucket]

per major nelson: all available slots have been filled, and sign up is now closed.

fyi

I wonder how many applied versus how many will get in.

[SynGamer]

I'm thinking first come first serve will be used in terms of QUALIFIED applicants.

[IOWABERG]

I keep getting the following message after logging in "An object that you requested, or that was needed to process your request could not be found."

Any ideas?

[chakan]

I keep getting the following message after logging in "An object that you requested, or that was needed to process your request could not be found."

Any ideas?


per major nelson: all available slots have been filled, and sign up is now closed.

fyi.

[HotShotX]

.

Glad Syn reminded me when he did, here's to hoping I get in :)

~HotShotX

[LinkinPrime]

I should have said I was subscribed to Netflix...I think having said no just dropped me from the list :-k

[screwkick]

I should have said I was subscribed to Netflix...I think having said no just dropped me from the list :-k


You can log into your profile and edit your answers for the questionaire.

[LinkinPrime]

Thanks for the tip...updated my survey :D

[Corvin]

I should have said I was subscribed to Netflix...I think having said no just dropped me from the list :-k

Yeah, that question definitely stood out more than the rest. I bet they want to test the server load/service before it actually goes live. Having them state that Gold members will get preference leads a little more credence to that stance as well.

I'm a Netflix subscriber and a Gold user so hopefully I can get in.

[thrustbucket]

I totally lied about being a netflix subscriber, and I'm not ashamed.

[PartTimeNinja]

Arg, its full already.

[spydey]

I totally lied about being a netflix subscriber, and I'm not ashamed.

Me too. If I get selected I'm signing up though.

[SynGamer]

Me too. If I get selected I'm signing up though.
It's about $9 a month for 1 DVD out at a time and unlimited Instant Watch. Well worth it if you ask me.

[YodaEXE]

I edited my survey to say I was a Netflix subscriber as well. I think the other advantage I might have is that I connect through VGA, and one of the things they mentioned for the update was new VGA support. Hopefully it'll be in there, as I'd like to get full use out of my monitor.

[dodgeme]

Dam im late. I hate it when im gone for a few days................

[Chase]

Arg, its full already.


Damns. :-(

[SynGamer]

E-mails will go out Wednesday...can't wait.

[Corvin]

I thought it said "... by Wednesday." ??

[jigsawhc]

I signed up, but I'm a little concerned the early birds will get a buggy version. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[cochesecochese]

I signed up, but I'm a little concerned the early birds will get a buggy version. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Why is that? Nelson said on his podcast that NXE is done and this isn't a beta. It's just a preview.

[thrustbucket]

Why is that? Nelson said on his podcast that NXE is done and this isn't a beta. It's just a preview.

That's true. Actually I think his wording was "this cake is already baked, it likely won't be a different version at launch".

The question then stands: why wait? I guess they are just really trying hard to find the show stopping bug.

He also mentioned that the people that get it early will get a special 800 number they can call to a special team to directly ask questions or report issues to.

[jkanownik]

I don't trust Microsoft enough to let them run a major beta test on my 360. I'd think long and hard before installing it any earlier than I have to. I don't care if they say it is done, because there track record with "done" products (360 console itself, mics, wireless mics, Vista, etc..) is horrible. I'll probably wait a few days after it is actually released to install it on my console.

[thrustbucket]

I don't trust Microsoft enough to let them run a major beta test on my 360. I'd think long and hard before installing it any earlier than I have to. I don't care if they say it is done, because there track record with "done" products (360 console itself, mics, wireless mics, Vista, etc..) is horrible. I'll probably wait a few days after it is actually released to install it on my console.

Then you best disconnect your ethernet cable from the back of your 360.

I disagree with you, however. They do have a bad record with hardware. But with software they have a much better record than Sony. And even if there was something overlooked and something bad happened, I am confident they would fix or replace it.

[Gamenads]

With the ability of being able to stream netflix movies to our xbox360's on November 19, will the movies that are being streamed be presented in Hi Definition?

[DestroVega]

With the ability of being able to stream netflix movies to our xbox360's on November 19, will the movies that are being streamed be presented in Hi Definition?


no.... be happy if they are even widescreen

[thrustbucket]

With the ability of being able to stream netflix movies to our xbox360's on November 19, will the movies that are being streamed be presented in Hi Definition?

Netflix won't even attempt at offering HD streaming until the average broadband user has a connection 3-6x faster.

[bubbafett4hire]

Then you best disconnect your ethernet cable from the back of your 360.

I disagree with you, however. They do have a bad record with hardware. But with software they have a much better record than Sony. And even if there was something overlooked and something bad happened, I am confident they would fix or replace it.

I'm the first to say fuck MS on the software side of things, until the 360 came out. I have to admit that yes compared to Sony the have done a wonderful job with software side of the 360 no problems no bricks (that i am aware of) over all flawless so far

My buddies PS3 became one of the bricked units when Sony FW 2.42 came out and could have been avoid had Sony tested the firmware to it's limits. But to be fair they did pull it and were quick to fix the problem.

[ndshide]

Netflix won't even attempt at offering HD streaming until the average broadband user has a connection 3-6x faster.

"It's something you can't get on the Roku. Nor on LG's BD300. Nor on Samsung's P2500 / P2550 Blu-ray players. Nor through Netflix's own "Watch Instantly" portal. It's high-def Netflix streaming, and it's coming first to Microsoft's Xbox 360. Yes friends, when the all new dashboard hits on November 19th, with it will come HD Netflix streaming for Xbox Live Gold members"

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-streaming-comes-to-xbox-360-first/


Now i'm really wanting in the preview for this...

[bigdaddybruce44]

Holy shit! HD? Now, I'm very excited.

[Guerrilla]

"It's something you can't get on the Roku. Nor on LG's BD300. Nor on Samsung's P2500 / P2550 Blu-ray players. Nor through Netflix's own "Watch Instantly" portal. It's high-def Netflix streaming, and it's coming first to Microsoft's Xbox 360. Yes friends, when the all new dashboard hits on November 19th, with it will come HD Netflix streaming for Xbox Live Gold members"

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-streaming-comes-to-xbox-360-first/


Now i'm really wanting in the preview for this...
Whoa... do want!

[JJSP]

The girlfriend and I are strongly considering rejoining Netflix. Including 360 functionality only sweetens the deal.

[GodlyOne]

Joystiq video tours:
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/29/video-tour-new-xbox-experience-exposed/

Great that we'll finally be able to delete 0 point and arcade trial games.

[KingBroly]

Yes..."HD" :eyeroll:. Compressed liked crazy.

No emails seem to have gone out yet.

[jmillion]

dang its the 29th already. got to keep a eye out

[zewone]

Yes..."HD" :eyeroll:. Compressed liked crazy.

No emails seem to have gone out yet.

Still better than SD.

The HD streaming adjusts on the fly to your download capabilities.

[KingBroly]

It still means loads and loads of buffering time. It won't be HD. And because 95% of internet connections suck, even hi speed ones, it won't look nearly as good as say a Blu-Ray movie or even a Marketplace download all the way through.

[zewone]

So?

Being a Netflix subscriber is a much cheaper, and better way to watch movies in good quality.

If it bothers you that much (buffer), stick to SD.

[KingBroly]

How about I stick to not participating in their shitty movie service?

[zewone]

Do whatever. Just stop bitching about something you aren't even using.

[KingBroly]

Fine. Just stop trying to prop it up like it's the best thing ever.

[zewone]

I didn't. What I said is it was better than SD.

[MusicNoteLess]

Yeah, zewone. Fucking fanboy.

...

Anywho, I'm stoked for netflix. Too bad the option to watch movies with ppl on your friend's list wont be available day one.

[zewone]

I want to watch Dirty Dancing with MusicNotes.

[lilboo]

I don't has Netflix, but would be interested in it for the 360 purposes only.
I wonder if they'll offer just a streaming subscription only.. for like $5 a month.. :lol:

[YodaEXE]

I don't has Netflix, but would be interested in it for the 360 purposes only.
I wonder if they'll offer just a streaming subscription only.. for like $5 a month.. :lol:
That would be awesome. I'd definitely get in on that if they did.

Anyone have any idea when emails are actually going to be sent out?

[SynGamer]

It still means loads and loads of buffering time. It won't be HD. And because 95% of internet connections suck, even hi speed ones, it won't look nearly as good as say a Blu-Ray movie or even a Marketplace download all the way through.
Let's see...take an HD video stream..."zip" it, aka make the file smaller, and then let the 360 unzip it on the fly. Entirely possible considering the specs on the 360. It may not be 20+ MB/s HD but i could easily see possibly 10 MB/s if they use the above method.

[SynGamer]

How about I stick to not participating in their shitty movie service?
Cancel your account and stop bitching.

[SynGamer]

I don't has Netflix, but would be interested in it for the 360 purposes only.
I wonder if they'll offer just a streaming subscription only.. for like $5 a month.. :lol:
$9 (tax included) gets you 1 DVD out and unlimited Instant Watch. Well worth it.

[Corvin]

Wow. Awesome news about HD. Can't wait to see if everyone's emails go out today for the preview.

[SynGamer]

Watching the video, it seems they have the movies broken into chapters like any normal DVD. I would assume they load the chapters first and that allows you to fast forward to a different chapter and rewind. Obviously if you fast forward it'll take about 5 seconds to buffer (based on the Joystiq video), but from selecting a movie to the movie actually starting it took about 25 seconds. Not bad at all if you ask me, plenty of time to grab another drink or food or something.

[chrisc133]

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-set-to-debut-on-the-xbox-360/

This is awesome, I didn't expect HD streaming via Netflix to the 360 for some time. I'm definitely impressed. By the way, if anyone wants a free month of Netflix, I still have a few codes left that expire Oct 31. Just go to www.netflix.com/referafriend to sign up.

codes:

M376562194205
M366502194285
M396562194255
M306572194555

[KingofOldSchool]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190633

[guyver2077]

freaking awesome

[munch]

This sounds great. i might get netflix for this. I have so many movies at home that I think I'll hold off.

[Jesse_Dylan]

No e-mails yet! Hopefully later today. :) I hope all of us get in. I really want those game installs. I think it's kind of neat that we all want it for different reasons. I don't think any of us really care about the avatars, but there are lots of other things we're excited about.

[YodaEXE]

No e-mails yet! Hopefully later today. :) I hope all of us get in. I really want those game installs. I think it's kind of neat that we all want it for different reasons. I don't think any of us really care about the avatars, but there are lots of other things we're excited about.
I dunno, I'm kinda interested in the avatars, but I like playing with things and customizing stuff, so I'll enjoy making my avatar.

[Jesse_Dylan]

I dunno, I'm kinda interested in the avatars, but I like playing with things and customizing stuff, so I'll enjoy making my avatar.

Yeah, it will be kind of fun! It looks a little more steamlined than the Mii interface.

[bigdaddybruce44]

I really don't care if the movies aren't "true" HD or whatever. The feature still really excites me. I was on a Netflix trial and was going to just cancel it, but the ability to now watch the movies on a computer or my 360 kept me hooked.

And I'll say now that I am not really interested in the avatars, but I'll probably end up wasting hours screwing around with it.

[Jesse_Dylan]

I really don't care if the movies aren't "true" HD or whatever. The feature still really excites me. I was on a Netflix trial and was going to just cancel it, but the ability to now watch the movies on a computer or my 360 kept me hooked.

Sorry for all the replies--

Hearing you guys talk about the Netflix feature is getting me kind of excited about it, too. Maybe I'll subscribe. I suppose they'll have trial offers and what not with the NXE, and if not, I could find a trial offer on the website I'm sure...

[Kaijufan]

Let's see...take an HD video stream..."zip" it, aka make the file smaller, and then let the 360 unzip it on the fly. Entirely possible considering the specs on the 360. It may not be 20+ MB/s HD but i could easily see possibly 10 MB/s if they use the above method.
I'm sure they compress their video streams.

[Javery]

If the PQ is better than 480p then the Netflix thing would be great. I am thinking about dropping my movie package and getting Netflix instead... I'd miss Californication though...

[D4rkewolfe]

I am looking forward to the game install as well, but the thing I was really looking forward to was Primetime Live. Kinda sad that won't be ready until Spring. Netflix is looking like something I might want to join now. Guess I'll wat to hear more about it from users.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

If the PQ is better than 480p then the Netflix thing would be great. I am thinking about dropping my movie package and getting Netflix instead... I'd miss Californication though...

http://www.netflix.com/Search?v1=californication

You'd have to wait for the new season to become available, but hey, it would free up some time!

[Redrazorback]

Well, I see the emails still haven't gone out. I can't wait to try out the Netflix streaming and the game installs. I hate how my disc drive runs like crazy. It's way too noisy. The avatars aren't too important to me, but they should be fun for a little while.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, the game installs are really important to me, as well. My first console was one of the "newer" pre-Falcom consoles, and the disc drive was damn near silent. After that died, they sent me one that was manufactured a few months earlier, and it had an older drive. Holy shit. This thing is horrible. I honestly thought it was going to die a week after I get it, but it's still going after four months.

[dmaul1114]

I also don't care about the Netflix not being HD. I still don't have a blu-ray or HD-DVD player even. Just not much of a videophile and find upconverted DVD to look more than good enough.

Hope the e-mails come out soon. I'll be out of town Thursday-Saturday.

[Owen]

Even with the game installed, I think it will check the disc every so often so you will still have some of the noise. Hopefully the checks are not set too often.

[Mrcapcom]

Streaming HD movies would be asking too much. I personally want the hdd installs and netflix but the avatars are cool too. I hope they expand on the achievement based avatar clothes. Anywho I tired to sign up and was too late a couple days back :-(

[YodaEXE]

Even with the game installed, I think it will check the disc every so often so you will still have some of the noise. Hopefully the checks are not set too often.
It's supposed to only check once when you start the game, just to insure that it's a legit copy. I don't see why it would check again after that.

[LinkinPrime]

Netflix HD is coming...
According to our friends over at Engadget (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-streaming-comes-to-xbox-360-first/), Microsoft and Netflix will soon announce that Xbox Live gold members will have access to high definition Netflix movie streaming to their 360s come November 19th. HD movie streaming that isn't available with Netflix's current "Watch Instantly" portal, Roku hardware or Samsung and LG's Netflix enabled Blu-ray players. The HD Netflix roll out will be slow at first with approximately 300 movies being available in HD on day one of the NXE's launch.http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/10/29/hd-netflix-set-to-debut-on-the-xbox-360/

I'll probably sign up for Netflix when it happens.

[Mrcapcom]

w00t thats whats up im definitely signing up for that
good thing i closed out my gamefly account

[SynGamer]

Has it been confirmed or denied if Netflix HD will be available for the early preview invitees?

[ArthurDigbySellers]

It's supposed to only check once when you start the game, just to insure that it's a legit copy. I don't see why it would check again after that.

On the last 1Up Show, they said that playing a game that is installed to the hard drive sounds like the 360 running the dashboard.

I hope I get into the "preview" just to try it out.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, this is exactly what I heard, as well. The disc needs to be in the system, in order to verify that you actually own it, but while playing, the game info is always read from the hard drive.

[thrustbucket]

Lots of misinfo here.....

First of all, I was wrong, and pleasantly surprised about the HD announcement. Nice.

Any resolution 1280 x 720 or higher is considered "HD".

And for those of you saying it has to be ultra compressed so will not compare to a blu-ray, don't jump to that conclusion just yet.

I was super caught up in the whole hd dvd / blu-ray / digital distribution war. I studied clip after clip and comparison after comparison until I was numb. With the latest versions of the VC1 codec that I am sure is being used for this, you can get very very good quality as low as 3-6 MB/s.

Side by side with a blu-ray disc, most people won't notice a difference with ultra compressed HD in most scenes. The only time you would is in complicated scenes or pausing and/or zooming.

If you want proof then go download some HD stuff from xbox video marketplace. This netflix stuff is likely using similar bandwith.

[SynGamer]

Taking PlayOn as an example, the program streams the video and encodes it into a format the 360 can read. I'm almost certain Netflix will be going the same route (at least for 360 users) because they could compress the HD video and then use 1 or 2 of the 360's Cores to uncompress the file. So long as you have a descent connection...

[LinkinPrime]

Anyone get an invite yet?

[SynGamer]

Anyone get an invite yet?
I JUST got mine, entering the code now!

EDIT: damnit, just spam :P (made ya look...)

[LinkinPrime]

Are you serious or fucking with me?

[doubledown]

I wonder how many megs it is to stream an HD movie over Netflix/XBOX. If the 3-6 MB/s is correct, that would be a lot of data transferred over the length of a movie.

I find this troublesome with Comcast putting a 250GB cap/month on Internet activity. I can see people hitting the ceiling sooner than later.

[thrustbucket]

I have not heard of anyone getting codes yet

[SynGamer]

I wonder how many megs it is to stream an HD movie over Netflix/XBOX. If the 3-6 MB/s is correct, that would be a lot of data transferred over the length of a movie.

I find this troublesome with Comcast putting a 250GB cap/month on Internet activity. I can see people hitting the ceiling sooner than later.
Let's assume they stream the HD movies in 720P...that should take up no more than 10GB if they use about 8MB/s bitrate. Assuming you watch a couple movies a week, you will probably get close. Thank god i don't have that cap (Time Warner Cable).

[SynGamer]

Per MajorNelson.com; "NXE Mail update: We're hoping to get them sent out later today. NONE of gone out yet. I'll make a post when they do!"

[thrustbucket]

I wonder how many megs it is to stream an HD movie over Netflix/XBOX. If the 3-6 MB/s is correct, that would be a lot of data transferred over the length of a movie.

I find this troublesome with Comcast putting a 250GB cap/month on Internet activity. I can see people hitting the ceiling sooner than later.

I think the sizes on marketplace are a good indicator. And they are between 6 and 10 gigs usually.

[LinkinPrime]

Per MajorNelson.com; "NXE Mail update: We're hoping to get them sent out later today. NONE of gone out yet. I'll make a post when they do!"

Ah...I didn't see that.

[doubledown]

Let's assume they stream the HD movies in 720P...that should take up no more than 10GB if they use about 8MB/s bitrate. Assuming you watch a couple movies a week, you will probably get close. Thank god i don't have that cap (Time Warner Cable).

Yeah, Comcast is a joke with their CAP. I may switch to WOW, but I'm hesitant as I would lose my main e-mail address that I use for all my billpay and everything else important....oops. Plus, WOW offered me the same price, so they have not enticed me yet.

I cannot wait to try this though.

[bubbafett4hire]

getting fios soon i hope want that $250 a month bill for speed , buddy says a 7.9 gigabyte file downloads in about 2 - 3 hours

[Goodeye]

Major just posted on his twitter:

" In case I was unclear: I will be making a blog post when we send the emails out to those accepted into the NXE Preview Program.... Hopefully we can send them out later tonight (PT)"

[HotShotX]

Major just posted on his twitter:

" In case I was unclear: I will be making a blog post when we send the emails out to those accepted into the NXE Preview Program.... Hopefully we can send them out later tonight (PT)"

Bah, just keep taking your time.

~HotShotX

[zewone]

getting fios soon i hope want that $250 a month bill for speed , buddy says a 7.9 gigabyte file downloads in about 2 - 3 hours

That's not that fast. Sounds like a 600-700KBps connection.

[Goodeye]

Bah, just keep taking your time.

~HotShotX

Yeah what sucks is I bet they have everyone picked just let us know already!

Anyone have anymore of those one month trial codes for netflix? If so PM me

[Vulcan2422]

Been checking my E-mail all day long and this thread to see if anybody has gotten theres yet. I really hope I get in, I wanna try the Netflix truthfully.

[eswat]

Been checking my E-mail all day long and this thread to see if anybody has gotten theres yet. I really hope I get in, I wanna try the Netflix truthfully.So far I've only got this cock-teasing newsletter email with the subject "Frag Off Kindly: See the New Xbox Experience now". :bomb:

[SynGamer]

I have three 1 Month Trial codes...

M142424693625
M162434693645
M192484693695

Go to: http://netflix.com/tellafriend and enter the code there. If you use a code, please say so and i'll cross it off :)