New XBOX Experience - General Discussion

[ferocioustoast7]

aww man i didn't get a code

[classact]

anyone play the community games yet?

[Draekon]

Since I did some installing for Syn's list this morning, I went to get a more accurate estimation on the time it takes to install games to my HDD. After installing six to seven games, I averaged around 1 minute and 40 seconds per gig on installs. Of course this will most likely vary depending on which disk drive you have in your 360.

More or less clarifying as I said 5 (Gears 2) minutes initially as that's what it felt like the first time. Second time was around 10 (Mirror's Edge), but I lost track of the start time about halfway through.

[DestroVega]

For everyone else that got screwed by USA today, there is a rumor that we may still get in on Monday. But by then, what's the point. USA dropped the ball big time here. Everyone I helped get in, got in. And I signed up before them.

I want to sue them for discrimination against badasses.

how did you help them? I got the shaft from them too, got my email confirmation, sent in my info again and got that blank email back.

oh well. I'm bummed but it's not the end of the world.

[Corvin]

Just go to http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/YOUR GAMER TAG GOES HERE/avatar-body.png If you put a gamertag that doesn't have the NXE you will see the silhouette

Cool.

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/Sith%20Draven/avatar-body.png

[SteveMcQ]

For the guys that have the leaked NXE, does it somehow lock a specific system to the HDD the NXE is installed in or can I swap HDDs still to one that has the regular blades?

I've got two 360s (Elite and Pro). I use the Elite's HDD on the Pro system in the living room. I wanted to try and install the NXE, if I can find it, on the 20GB and use it on the Pro also and just switch HDDs after I get a look at it. I'm guessing that shouldn't cause any problems?

[YodaEXE]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/YodaEXE/avatar-body.png

It's me! Sorta. I like it :D

[moojuice]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuiced/avatar-body.png
(http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuice/avatar-body.png)

[YodaEXE]

So, can anyone tell me where exactly the NXE themes are in the marketplace? I searched around but I wasn't really sure.

[D4rkewolfe]

So, can anyone tell me where exactly the NXE themes are in the marketplace? I searched around but I wasn't really sure.

They are any who have the word "Premium". Unless they are easier to find in the new Marketplace, you actually need to know what theme it is. May I suggest going to the XBLA Thread on the top, just ctrl+f Premium and you should see the ones available.

As far as I know they have 3 Gears of War 2 NXE Themes and one for Vigilante 8. Unlike the GoW2 theme, the Premium for Vigilante 8 costs the same as the normal theme 150 MS points. Cause it just says Premium unlike the GoW where they added Premium between parentheses.

[Monsta Mack]

I'm late to the game but I'll give my thoughts

+ New Dashboard loads really quickly
+ No more guide button lag
+ New Dashboard boxart cards of XBLA and retail games look super sexy
+ Easy layout makes everything easy to navigate in general
+ Ability to burn games to Hard Drive makes cuts load times down by a bit for some games, and a lot for others. Also seems to improve draw distance/texture pop up (?)
+ Party Invite
+ Netflex gives everyone the ability to stream movies in HD for a relatively low cost
+ Avatars are actually pretty decent and painless to make
+ Almost everything in general is a improvement over the original Dashboard. I can't see why anyone would want to go back to the blades look.
+ Community Games gives everyone a chance to put their game up for sale and get recognition. Big props to MS on this one.

- Netflex over XBox just like the PC doesn't seem to offer the new releases. You'll still have to go the MS route and pay out the ass for movies like Iron Man (at 400+ points for the HD version)
- Party Invite (Yeah a plus and minus. Well to be on a friends list anyways, this is going to be the new mass spam invite that may soon get on everyones nerves. Gota remove that friend lol)
- The burn games to hard drive option will probably force a majority of people to upgrade to the 120gig or only be able to burn one or two games due to size.

I can't think of any other negatives at the moment.

[HotShotX]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/ColHotShotX/avatar-body.png
~HotShotX

[Persona7]

What the hell, I was looking through my hard drives contents and my 50 hour tales of Vesperia file seems to have dissapeared. :|

[Corvin]

The only thing I don't like so far is the dash starting out on the spotlight page instead of my gamercard. That's just another 'click' to get to where I need to be. Same for Arcade games. Seems like they are a couple more clicks to get to than before.

[YodaEXE]

The only thing I don't like so far is the dash starting out on the spotlight page instead of my gamercard. That's just another 'click' to get to where I need to be. Same for Arcade games. Seems like they are a couple more clicks to get to than before.
Yeah, I wish there was an option to set the default start point.

[ArJay2k8]

You can shut the spotlight page off....

[ratzombie]

You can shut the spotlight page off....
No, I don't think so. I'm certain you're thinking of the "Welcome Channel."

[thrustbucket]

how did you help them? I got the shaft from them too, got my email confirmation, sent in my info again and got that blank email back.

I just told them about it. Explained how it works. Explained where to get their serial number. All after I signed up. Now they are enjoying it.

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuiced/avatar-body.png
(http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuice/avatar-body.png)

Oh god. :roll:

[PenguinoMF]

Is there a site that has a list of available movies through Netflix's watch it now? I want to see what kind of movies the offer but don't want to join just to do it.

[Nelo Ice]

the night theme that comes with the update is awesome
like the other premium themes it changes the foreground color and gives ur friends a different background

[seanr1221]

Is there a site that has a list of available movies through Netflix's watch it now? I want to see what kind of movies the offer but don't want to join just to do it.

Id like to know too.

[JJSP]

I believe if you go to Netflix's site and search for a movie, it should tell you if it's streamable. Tedious, but it works.

EDIT - http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=gev

[Azumangaman]

Do you have to be in the US to use Netflix? If you live in Canada, can you pay monthly is there an option to use Netflix? There is no Netflix in Canada but I'd be happy to pay monthly for Netflix on XBL.

[SAB-CA]

Id like to know too. There is a "browse" option at the bottom of the "watch instantly" section, if you just casually browse the site. You can sift through some of the collection that way.

OF course, you could also ask some of us with the Netflix to look up some titles for you too... I do wish there was a better way to browse, but after taking up the free trial, I rather like their collection, it's way better than what I expected.

[seanr1221]

Sorry to be a :dunce: but I don't see the browse button at the bottom of the watch instantly section.

[SteveMcQ]

Is Shutter streamable?

[thrustbucket]

Is Shutter streamable?

Hopefully you are referring to the original Chinese version, because the Jessica Alba version is a cheap knock-off farce.

[SynGamer]

Hopefully you are referring to the original Chinese version, because the Jessica Alba version is a cheap knock-off farce.
You mean absolute shit. Go original or go home :)

[LinkinPrime]

Do not buy the Vigilante 8 "Premium" theme. It does not have a skin for your friends list unlike Gears 2 themes do. It's just a lame background :-(

[SAB-CA]

Sorry to be a :dunce: but I don't see the browse button at the bottom of the watch instantly section.

Hmmm, no, you're right, they changed the layout a bit, lol. Ok, try using "Search" instead... blue buttons under title names means they are available for Instant play/Being streamed. They say some streaming titles might not be available to see on Xbox, but I have yet to bump into one yet.

[KingBroly]

Can anyone tell me if Fists of Fury and The Spy Who Came in From the Cold are streamable or not? I don't like to rent movies, and if I can stream them in a 14-day free trial, it'd convince me to get the trial.

[SynGamer]

Can anyone tell me if Fists of Fury and The Spy Who Came in From the Cold are streamable or not? I don't like to rent movies, and if I can stream them in a 14-day free trial, it'd convince me to get the trial.
You could do a search on netflix.com i believe.

EDIT: i searched and neither are streamable.

[LinkinPrime]

Anyone seen a Netflix movie or show in HD? If so can you tell me what it was, I want to add it to my queue to test how the HD streaming looks.

[KingBroly]

I did that, but nothing under their descriptions mentioned anything about it.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

i really wish that i wasn't told by USA Today that i got in. this is really pissing me off each morning before work and when i get home from work.

[SAB-CA]

Anyone seen a Netflix movie or show in HD? If so can you tell me what it was, I want to add it to my queue to test how the HD streaming looks.

Under Watch Instantly Genres, go to "Starz Play". All of those are suppose to be HD, I believe.

[Aku]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/Vaancor/avatar-body.png

Sorry to ask, but can anyone refresh my mind as to where the theme selector is? I know it's there, since I was happy they included an instant preview of the highlighted theme in the background.

*EDIT*

Found it, it's in My Xbox on my gamer panel instead of in preferences like in the previous version.

[thrustbucket]

i really wish that i wasn't told by USA Today that i got in. this is really pissing me off each morning before work and when i get home from work.

I believe I figured out why *I* didn't get in:

In my gmail account I have it set up to show my outgoing mail as coming from a different email address (a different reply to address). I think their automated system was checking email addresses when you replied to that email to make sure it matched their email from the same email address that I signed up on USA Today with.

I just changed it back and replied again. I immediately got a blank response, which is what others said happened when they did it, perhaps meaning it worked.

[SynGamer]

I believe I figured out why *I* didn't get in:

In my gmail account I have it set up to show my outgoing mail as coming from a different email address (a different reply to address). I think their automated system was checking email addresses when you replied to that email to make sure it matched their email from the same email address that I signed up on USA Today with.

I just changed it back and replied again. I immediately got a blank response, which is what others said happened when they did it, perhaps meaning it worked.
I did the same things...really pissed that they made this so complicated. It shouldn't matter what e-mail the reply comes from. I mean, i replied back with the e-mail i originally sent them and NOW they ask for the e-mail on my account? Bullshit if you ask me. I got the blank e-mail back as well, so perhaps we'll get it on Monday...

[Stonecoldfreak1]

anytime i send an email to them now i just get a blank response now. i don't know anymore, this is just ridiculous.

[m3talst0rm]

I sent an email to Sean explaining my frustration and he responded with this:

McNevin, Sean (smcnevin@usatoday.com)
Sat 11/15/08 12:28 PM

JB
I understand you position but your tag was in the initial push and you should have received the update. Please double check and email me. I will be happy to remedy your situation.

Best.

Sean



I replied explaining that Ive checked and double checked and no update....Im just supposed to login and i should get a prompt to update...right?

[LinkinPrime]

One thing that really shocked me of this NXE thing is that you can't change colors of the clothing...that right there was a big mistake. You should be able to change color of any article of clothing and accessories. Wasted opportunity right there.

[Draekon]

I replied explaining that Ive checked and double checked and no update....Im just supposed to login and i should get a prompt to update...right?

Yes.

[HotShotX]

One thing that really shocked me of this NXE thing is that you can't change colors of the clothing...that right there was a big mistake. You should be able to change color of any article of clothing and accessories. Wasted opportunity right there.

Well if they did that then they couldn't nickel and dime the shit out of us.

~HotShotX

[Goodeye]

Yeah I am still waiting on this lie of a USA Today promotion to prove itself it was not a lie. My brother who just got an Xbox 360 a month ago got in on Major's 3rd wave what a freaking disappointment. I was over there creating my avatar but he was trying to find the photo party application to download and him and me could not find it anywhere does anyone know where it could be?

[MSUHitman]

I put the over/under on Live being down Wednesday at 8 hours. Given that Live was wonky last night (booting people randomly) I don't think it's crazy to think this is going to crash the system on Wednesday.

[zewone]

I put the over/under on Live being down Wednesday at 8 hours. Given that Live was wonky last night (booting people randomly) I don't think it's crazy to think this is going to crash the system on Wednesday.

Definitely.

[seanr1221]

Looks like I'll be catching up on some singleplayer this wednesday ;)

[xtreme_Zr2]

Right now I can't even sign in. Seems like a lot of people on the xbox message boards are also having quite the problems.

[dkreegz515]

yeah, no xbox live since last night.... and i just tried again now and still no xbox live

[KingBroly]

I think they need to push out this thing now, because it seems like the dual dashboards are causing a bit of a problem.

[xtreme_Zr2]

Follow up:

Complete crash. Xbox.com isn't working, Can't sign in to my gamertag, and the comments are brewing a small storm over on majornelson right now.


And for the record I still have the old dashboard.

[slidecage]

STUPID question abut how do you hook the xbox 360 to the net

its it though the cable wire or is it though the wire that comes out of the back of the modem that hooks into your PC


Im tempted to buy one just to watch netflix crap

[zewone]

STUPID question abut how do you hook the xbox 360 to the net

its it though the cable wire or is it though the wire that comes out of the back of the modem that hooks into your PC


Im tempted to buy one just to watch netflix crap

Plug your 360 to your phone line.

[SynGamer]

Follow up:

Complete crash. Xbox.com isn't working, Can't sign in to my gamertag, and the comments are brewing a small storm over on majornelson right now.


And for the record I still have the old dashboard.
XBL is working for me as well as .com.

[KingBroly]

It was down for a few minutes earlier. I don't want to get this update early, but I might have to considering it may be down later in the day.

[xtreme_Zr2]

XBL is working for me as well as .com.

Yeah, seems like its varied. Others are reporting just simple problems such as can't connect to messenger, etc. On GTA we can't even start any kind of multiplayer without being disconnected.

[Frogurt.man]

This shit it going to be funny on Wednesday when they try and roll out NXE. What a train wreck.

[eliter1]

This shit it going to be funny on Wednesday when they try and roll out NXE. What a train wreck.

It actually isn't going to be funny :roll: there are going to be a lot of pissed off people that can't get the update and I have the feeling XBL is going to go DOWN!!

[Jesse_Dylan]

I dunno... It might work. Maybe part of the reason they've been doing this the way they have been is to get the problems fixed before the full launch.

We'll see.

I don't really care either way. It's kind of fun to watch the spectacle. :)

[SynGamer]

I'm thinking about installing the leaked NXE Tuesday night and then signing on to XBL in the wee hours on Wed in hopes of getting a quick update.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

I'm thinking about installing the leaked NXE Tuesday night and then signing on to XBL in the wee hours on Wed in hopes of getting a quick update.


i'm worried about installing the leaked one. really scared i wouldn't be able to connect to live again even once the update is out for everyone.

[SynGamer]

Nothing illegal about it. It's a legit firmware. I see no problem.

[KingBroly]

Nothing illegal about it. It's a legit firmware. I see no problem.

If it doesn't come from Microsoft's official firmware site, your method of getting it is illegal.

[SynGamer]

If it doesn't come from Microsoft's official firmware site, your method of getting it is illegal.
Um, it did. It's the same exact file that everyone in the preview downloads.

[zewone]

It's not illegal. That's stupid whoever thinks that.

[Chase]

Why not just wait one day?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Do we really have to fight over this? The reality is, if you were not invited into the preview, you aren't suppose to have the update on your machine until it is officially released. It's that cut and dry. Is it illegal? Does it matter? It's not like the FBI is going to knock on your door over it. Now, whether or not Microsoft does something to those that install it through non-official means is another story. I don't see it happening. If they were planning on it, they would probably have already tried to deter people by telling them as such. But you never know, which is why I wouldn't touch it with a yard stick.

[KingBroly]

Um, it did. It's the same exact file that everyone in the preview downloads.

Then I have no problems with it. You'd be rolling the dice, though.

[AdvOfJet]

I mentioned several posts back that I installed the leaked version when it first came out and then got the invite during the 3rd wave. I had NO problems at all getting the official update once my console ID was added into the system.

[zewone]

I mentioned several posts back that I installed the leaked version when it first came out and then got the invite during the 3rd wave. I had NO problems at all getting the official update once my console ID was added into the system.

That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks.

[cochesecochese]

If it doesn't come from Microsoft's official firmware site, your method of getting it is illegal.

It's a shame Microsoft doesn't care.

Great news, AdvofJet. Glad to see MS is reasonable about this and people are able to at least access installs early.

[seanr1221]

I mentioned several posts back that I installed the leaked version when it first came out and then got the invite during the 3rd wave. I had NO problems at all getting the official update once my console ID was added into the system.

:-k

[Redrazorback]

Well, I got home from work a little while ago and the update was waiting for me. I've been playing around with all of the features and I'm really enjoying NXE so far, even the avatars, which I didn't think I would care about.

[jaybird]

I'm thinking about installing the leaked NXE Tuesday night and then signing on to XBL in the wee hours on Wed in hopes of getting a quick update.

I installed the leaked NXE on my backup 360 a couple of weeks back and got picked for the 3rd wave yesterday on my main unit. After getting my main unit running, I put the backup's HD on and it went through the entire process again.

So I don't think it'll save you much time. The leaked NXE seems to be really stripped down.

[Malik112099]

My little NXE/Old Dash story...

I have a 20GB pro downstairs and an arcade with a 512mb memory card upstairs. I got into the 2nd wave of the NXE preview. After installing NXE I went and bought a 120GB HDD and did the transfer. I then took the 20GB upstairs and moved the profile i had on my mem card to the 20GB HDD and removed the mem card. This was 3? days ago. I was in the bedroom earlier today and turned on the 360 and the profile wouldnt automatically login to XBL. When i tried to manually login the system would freeze up. I did the network test and everything was perfect. And the profile even signed into XBL during the test. After the test was over I couldn't login again. WTF!??! I went to memory settings and found i had a small Avatar System file left from NXE on the 20GB. I deleted it and then I signed into XBL without a hitch. Kinda crazy how much XBL checks for before letting you login.

Thats my story.

Wasted your time?

Good.

[slickkill77]

It actually isn't going to be funny :roll: there are going to be a lot of pissed off people that can't get the update and I have the feeling XBL is going to go DOWN!!


Remember when the first Halo 3 trailer came out on XBL during E3......o man

[KingBroly]

I find it funny that Microsoft can prepare themselves for GTAIV but not this.

[zewone]

what?

[Moxio]

what?

.

[ninja dog]

what?


i don't remember king broly being retarded before, but something about this update has made him go like this: :whee:

[whiptcracker]

I love the new interface, though I hope there are more clothing options for avatars in the future.

[KingBroly]

i don't remember king broly being retarded before, but something about this update has made him go like this: :whee:

Server stability. They made all this noise about making sure the servers were stable for GTAIV's release, but they can't do the same for this thing.

[Malik112099]

Server stability. They made all this noise about making sure the servers were stable for GTAIV's release, but they can't do the same for this thing.

There's a difference between being prepared for multiplayer gameplay and having possibly millions of people downloading data off a server at the same time..

you also have to remember that by default there are more people that have xbox 360's and log into xbox live than there are xbox owners that bought GTA IV and went online with it

[KingBroly]

There's a difference between being prepared for multiplayer gameplay and having possibly millions of people downloading data off a server at the same time..

you also have to remember that by default there are more people that have xbox 360's and log into xbox live than there are xbox owners that bought GTA IV and went online with it

Well, it doesn't seem like they're openly saying the servers will be able to handle it. They're keeping awfully quiet about the whole thing.

[Owen]

All the server crashing is happening on the PC Xbox Live as well. Last night I was getting disconnected every 5 minutes while playing Fallout 3 and did not even realize I was disconnected when I got an Achievement so now I am stuck with one that just shows Acquired with no date which is lame. They should give the option to delete Achievements so you can reacquire them as I would like to have the date when I got that Achievement as to me, it looks like I cheated to get that one.

[gordojones88]

Wow, some of these Avatars look way better than I thought they would.



http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/NinjaPenguin777.png


http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/cochesecochese.png


http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/QuantamPulse.png

[zewone]

Yeah, I really like NinjaPenguins.

[seanr1221]

Quantam plays some...interesting games :lol:

[slickkill77]

Yeah my avatar is popular. The monacle is what sold me on making my guy. I was going to make him look like me but I couldn't pass on a monacle. If only they had a pipe. Then he would truly be a sophisticated british millionare

[thrustbucket]

So let me get this straight, everyone is assuming that the release of more NXE previews and live instability lately must be connected? Without any proof?

[Persona7]

Major Nelson said that all the issues were identified and fixed. (I saw it on his twitter)


Update: Any LIVE issues you've been having should be all cleared up now. Thanks for your patience.
11 minutes ago from twitterrific

[ratzombie]

So let me get this straight, everyone is assuming that the release of more NXE previews and live instability lately must be connected? Without any proof?
It's not that far fetched to come to that conclusion.

Many of us installed NXE and then noticed connectivity issues.

[gordojones88]

Wow I have a very important question.

If your console is offline, does your avatar still show up?

Does all the other blades have the full graphics when offline?

[RudyPants]

Wow I have a very important question.

If your console is offline, does your avatar still show up?

Does all the other blades have the full graphics when offline?

If you are signed in as your gamertag (regardless of being online), your avatar will show up.

Much of the interface is different when you're online than when you're offline but going into specifics is kind of hard because I only did it once last night when my connection went to hell.

[ratzombie]

I just tested it for you, yeah your avatar still shows up but you can't access "Friends" so you can't see your friends avatars while offline. Not too surprising.

[lilboo]

Man, I really wanna try this.

Anyone playing with the leaked version? I wanna play with an avatar..:lol: that's all!

[Bioshocked360]

You can't make avatars with the leaked version.

[YodaEXE]

Man, I really wanna try this.

Anyone playing with the leaked version? I wanna play with an avatar..:lol: that's all!
Unfortunately for you, the leaked version doesn't contain the update needed for that. It requires a 120ish MB update to be downloaded from Live.

[lilboo]

Teaaars. Oh well, only a few days to go :D

[Persona7]

Wow, I was playing Gears 2 awhile ago and I FINALLY got into a online match and some stupid kid was like "WHY IS YOUR GAMERPICTURE THE OLD XBOX LOGO BLA BLA BLA" I told him I had the new dashboard and he started calling me a "hacker noob" and he is going to notify his uncle who works for Microsoft.

Sigh.

[Goodeye]

Wow, I was playing Gears 2 awhile ago and I FINALLY got into a online match and some stupid kid was like "WHY IS YOUR GAMERPICTURE THE OLD XBOX LOGO BLA BLA BLA" I told him I had the new dashboard and he started calling me a "hacker noob" and he is going to notify his uncle who works for Microsoft.

Sigh.


Ha ha that quote is so full of awesome!

[YodaEXE]

Wow, I was playing Gears 2 awhile ago and I FINALLY got into a online match and some stupid kid was like "WHY IS YOUR GAMERPICTURE THE OLD XBOX LOGO BLA BLA BLA" I told him I had the new dashboard and he started calling me a "hacker noob" and he is going to notify his uncle who works for Microsoft.

Sigh.
That quote is made of win and awesome :D Way to go. I love hearing stories about stupid kids like that.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Wow, I was playing Gears 2 awhile ago and I FINALLY got into a online match and some stupid kid was like "WHY IS YOUR GAMERPICTURE THE OLD XBOX LOGO BLA BLA BLA" I told him I had the new dashboard and he started calling me a "hacker noob" and he is going to notify his uncle who works for Microsoft.

Sigh.

This more or less sums up exactly why I never bother using a headset for online gaming.

[Owen]

This more or less sums up exactly why I never bother using a headset for online gaming.

I mainly use my headset to hear if they are talking about me and so I do not hear them yelling through my TV speakers. Many people on Xbox Live do not realize the mute switch is your friend.

[slickkill77]

Because of my XBL name I am always involved in the conversation. Its really annoying

[AdvOfJet]

Quantam plays some...interesting games :lol:

It's the byproduct of having a GameFly queue that reads almost entirely as "Very Low Availability".

And BTW, I have played a ton of horrible games in my time, and Madagascar and Space Chimps are two of the worst games I have ever played. :cold: The animation in Space Chimps is beyond laughable.

[cochesecochese]

The animation in Space Chimps is beyond laughable.

It's almost as bad as Too Human.

[AdvOfJet]

It's almost as bad as Too Human.

You would think so until you played it. The first time that you jump on a trampoline and the cloth doesn't move at all, you pause for two seconds, the fire into the air with no change in movement to the monkey or the cloth on the trampoline, .... horrible ... at least in Too Human the body parts actually moved when doing something.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

guess that i get to wait until the 19th.

[V878]

If anyone's done that hard drive offer (http://www.xboxstorageupgrade.com/hh/web/home/hhauthentication.jsp;jsessionid=8D9CF385CC0C6AC797 2F03B242617363?ssLocale=en_US) for Core and Arcade systems through MS recently, does it still give the option to get just the 20GB HD for $20 or do you have to take the HD + 3 months of Live for $30? I really don't need Live Gold (don't do much online gaming outside PC) so I'd rather save the $10 if possible.

[bradmanuel]

If you have the Core, I believe they offer the hard drive only for $20. I just got an arcade with the memory card, and was offered the HD + 3 months Live for $30. Still a good deal, so I went for it.

[V878]

Thanks for the info. I guess $30 is still a good price for the 20GB and I'll probably use up the 3 months during the summer.

And for another question, can I get the "Serial Number" and "Console ID" required to get the offer without taking my 360 online (don't have the system yet)? I'd rather just wait to download and install the NXE when I get the hard drive.

Also, I hope the system bridges fine with my laptop when I need to go online because I'd rather not get a wireless adapter (router's kind of far from my TV).

[Malik112099]

20GB isnt enough

I dont keep anything (demos, vids, music, game saves for games i wont play again, etc) on my 360's HDD and I only had room for 1 game install. This is mostly due to me having 3gb of saved data for rockband 2, but still...20gb isnt big enough

[YodaEXE]

20GB isnt enough

I dont keep anything (demos, vids, music, game saves for games i wont play again, etc) on my 360's HDD and I only had room for 1 game install. This is mostly due to me having 3gb of saved data for rockband 2, but still...20gb isnt big enough
Agreed. I wound up giving in and buying a 120gb drive because between my game saves, DLC, a number of arcade games, and two or three Xbox Originals, at any one time I would only have between 300mb and 1gb free on the drive. Granted, if I didn't have the Xbox games it would have been a bit better.

[Goodeye]

Does anyone know how to delete games on your gamercard that are 0GS? My bro is on the NXE (how I have an avatar) and we were trying to figure out how to clear out our 0GS games. Me especially that certain crappy car XBLA game needs to be deleted...

[strongpimphand]

I know feel great that I exchanged the great deal I got from dell for the 60 gig 360 for the elite.....because lord knows i'm installing every single game I have on my hard drive because one thing i hate is long load times

if i can go take a piss and wash my hands before the load is over, i'm frustrated



quick question though: concerning the actual game being in the hard drive....does that mean MY copy have to be in there or could a friend just bring his over?

[UZ7]

quick question though: concerning the actual game being in the hard drive....does that mean MY copy have to be in there or could a friend just bring his over?

even if you install the game on the harddrive you still need to have the actual game in the cd drive, as long as its a legit copy then it will work.. so if your friend has a genuine copy then it will work (backup cds will not work).

[Malik112099]

Does anyone know how to delete games on your gamercard that are 0GS? My bro is on the NXE (how I have an avatar) and we were trying to figure out how to clear out our 0GS games. Me especially that certain crappy car XBLA game needs to be deleted...


HOW TO DELETE GAMES WITH ZERO GAMERSCORE

From the main dash:

Guide Button -> Games Blade -> Select Achievements -> Scroll To Game With Zero Gamerscore -> Press "X" To Delete Game History


.

[Goodeye]

Thank you I had searched and could not find it! Thank you!

That "certain" Car XBLA title haha and Vampire Rain need to be deleted I won the latter in a contest... quickly traded it in for $2 haha

[slickkill77]

Thats been posted for like the past 4 pages

[KingBroly]

It also helps for all those Trial Games which I'm sure a lot of people are looking forward to getting rid of.

So have they completed the new Dashboard yet or is it still sort of beta-ish?

[YodaEXE]

It also helps for all those Trial Games which I'm sure a lot of people are looking forward to getting rid of.

So have they completed the new Dashboard yet or is it still sort of beta-ish?
It's been complete since the first wave was released. It was never a beta, simply a Preview to allow some people to get early access. It builds up hype and all that for it when people start talking about the cool new features.

[KingBroly]

It's been complete since the first wave was released. It was never a beta, simply a Preview to allow some people to get early access. It builds up hype and all that for it when people start talking about the cool new features.

Um...then what have I been hearing about it being updated over the past 2 weeks?

[Malik112099]

So you cant update something that has already been finished?

[LinkinPrime]

http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuiced/avatar-body.png
(http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/moojuice/avatar-body.png)

How did you get access to that grey suit? I only have the option of the white or brown one.

Also not sure if you guys saw, they claim to have new avatar items every two weeks.

[thrustbucket]

Um...then what have I been hearing about it being updated over the past 2 weeks?

I don't know what your definition of beta is. Is it buggy? No. Are more features coming for it all the time? Yes.

Call that beta if you want.

[KingBroly]

I consider a beta something that's not out to all consumers with all features being of use.

So, in this sense, I consider it a beta since you can't download it and use it with Live.

[YodaEXE]

I consider a beta something that's not out to all consumers with all features being of use.

So, in this sense, I consider it a beta since you can't download it and use it with Live.
So then a trial product of a piece of software is a beta? If I were to download, say, a WinRAR trial or something, that would be a beta since I wouldn't have full access to the software since it's just a trial?

A beta is something that is released in an incomplete form that is designed for testing purposes. The NXE Preview that was released is not incomplete. Nor is it being put out solely for testing purposes. It was released early to help build hype and to test the distribution system (not the NXE itself).

[KaneRobot]

How did you get access to that grey suit? I only have the option of the white or brown one.

Also not sure if you guys saw, they claim to have new avatar items every two weeks.

They had a bunch more suits up last week. Don't know what happened to them. Some other content has been removed as well.

[LinkinPrime]

Weak

[lilboo]

So will the themes specifically designed for NXE cost more than the typical 150 points?
What about clothes? Any word on pricing? Also, are they going to sell things separate (shirts, pants, shoes, accessories) or full wardrobes?...or..both? O_O

[Draekon]

So will the themes specifically designed for NXE cost more than the typical 150 points?
What about clothes? Any word on pricing? Also, are they going to sell things separate (shirts, pants, shoes, accessories) or full wardrobes?...or..both? O_O

Gears 2 are 250. The Vigilante 8 one is 150, but apparently isn't as "complete" as the 3 Gears 2 ones.

As for the clothes, I haven't seen or heard anything yet.

[Chronotrigga]

If you could make your own clothes and then be able to submit it on the Marketplace as "Custom Clothes" (for a price), and if people bought them you'd get a small profit, that would be so badass. So, it'd be like:

make killer sunglasses. Costs 200 Points
submit to marketplace. Costs 300 points
listed in "custom clothes" section, priced at 100Points (set price for any custom clothing)
User A buys killer sunglasses + 10 Points to person who made it
User B buys killer sunglasses +10 Points to person who made it

I believe this little gadget would be pretty sweet. Microsoft would still be making a good profit, and you yourself might even get more points than you spent, and would also spark creativity.

[moojuice]

AFAIK, the updates fixed issues with other languages, and added/removed clothing. Nothing drastic.

And for the suit...I don't know...there used to be a lot of suits, they must have took them out with the update.

[V878]

20GB isnt enough

I dont keep anything (demos, vids, music, game saves for games i wont play again, etc) on my 360's HDD and I only had room for 1 game install. This is mostly due to me having 3gb of saved data for rockband 2, but still...20gb isnt big enough

As long as it can store 1 game install and 1 demo at a time I'm good. I don't really buy DLC or other marketplace stuff (might get 1 or 2 XBLA games like Braid eventually but I can't imagine that taking a ton of space). I'll end up downloading most demos and installing most multiplatform games on my PS3 anyways.

[Malik112099]

i have my current game im playing installed (fallout) but also want my pick up and play games installed too (cod 4 & rb2). Simply not enough room on the 20gb.

Also, the ps3 doesnt do full installs so it isnt a fair comparison

[V878]

i have my current game im playing installed (fallout) but also want my pick up and play games installed too (cod 4 & rb2). Simply not enough room on the 20gb.

Also, the ps3 doesnt do full installs so it isnt a fair comparison

I meant more to say I'll be picking up most multiplatforms on my PC and PS3 (I like the free online) so the games really won't be piling up for me. I'll probably only be playing one game on 360 at a time so when I'm done playing I can just uninstall it.

I haven't followed the prices too closely on the 60GB HDD though. If they are around $50 or so somewhere I would go for it for the extra convenience.

[Malik112099]

I haven't followed the prices too closely on the 60GB HDD though. If they are around $50 or so somewhere I would go for it for the extra convenience.


the 60 gb is $100 and comes with a headset, 3 months of live and an ethernet cable. It would be smart if they replace the ethernet cable with a data migration kit.

[slickkill77]

the 60 gb is $100 and comes with a headset, 3 months of live and an ethernet cable. It would be smart if they replace the ethernet cable with a data migration kit.


$65 on ebay.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Microsoft-XBOX-360-60GB-Hard-Drive-HDD-MINT_W0QQitemZ110312994621QQihZ001QQcategoryZ13996 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Free shipping, use the live search cashback ($16.xx back), sell 20gb for $30.xx or so




Wasnt the whole point of the market place when it was first annouced, user created stuff being uploaded and sold on there. Not just EA becoming the biggest D-Bag company ever

[Jesse_Dylan]

the 60 gb is $100 and comes with a headset, 3 months of live and an ethernet cable. It would be smart if they replace the ethernet cable with a data migration kit.

But I think the whole point is that it's for people who don't already have a hard drive, so they wouldn't need a migration kit. Not that I'm defending MS's strategy, which certainly has holes (like all of us, who just wanted a bigger hard drive and didn't want to be ripped off).

And the ethernet cable is odd, I agree. How many people have their router in the same room they want their Xbox 360? It's lame that the system doesn't have built-in wireless, and an ethernet cable won't fix that. And the external wireless adapter is also really expensive.

Luckily, I've found my own solutions!

Anyway. Just chatting garrulously.

[Vulcan2422]

I know this is a dumb question BUT, Did anybody else have problems with Chat last night Privately? I was in Private Chat with a buddy of mine that doesn't have the NXE, And It was so horrible. I could hear every other word and the same word like three times before the next one. Unless it was that Live problem. Im hoping so.

ALSO, Did they ever fix that VGA to DVI problem? Would be nice to use my VGA cable for once.

[Redrazorback]

I know this is a dumb question BUT, Did anybody else have problems with Chat last night Privately? I was in Private Chat with a buddy of mine that doesn't have the NXE, And It was so horrible. I could hear every other word and the same word like three times before the next one. Unless it was that Live problem. Im hoping so.

ALSO, Did they ever fix that VGA to DVI problem? Would be nice to use my VGA cable for once.

I'm hearing that there are problems when someone with NXE chats with someone who doesn't have it. That problem will be fixed after the 19th, when everyone downloads NXE.

[Persona7]

Voice chat is definitely screwed between NXE and non NXE's...IN game voice works perfectly though.


Does anyone know what happened to the picture party application? It is not in the spotlight and it dissapeared for my friend who had the NXE since the first wave.

[KingBroly]

I think Major Nelson's getting a bit desperate. I mean, look at his blog post.

[thrustbucket]

I think Major Nelson's getting a bit desperate. I mean, look at his blog post.

Poetic justice for botched previews.

[xtreme_Zr2]

I know this is a dumb question BUT, Did anybody else have problems with Chat last night Privately? I was in Private Chat with a buddy of mine that doesn't have the NXE, And It was so horrible. I could hear every other word and the same word like three times before the next one. Unless it was that Live problem. Im hoping so.

ALSO, Did they ever fix that VGA to DVI problem? Would be nice to use my VGA cable for once.

Private Chat was screwed for me around 2:00 pm today EST. Although I didn't have any problems signing into live like yesterday. Only couldn't hear my friend on the chat.

Still plenty of people having major problems though by looking at Major's site. That thread is going to reach 1000 comments soon.

[Persona7]

Hmm, I can sign in and out no problem but I get kicked off every 15 minutes or so even when im just sitting in the dash.

[RelentlessRolento]

so is this worth downloading and running online now even with the online portion not working for the next 3 days? I won't be home to try it out for a while till the end of this week so trying it out now might be a good idea. thoughts?

also the link to download would be nice if anyone has it. if this can't be asked I'll edit this post.

[moojuice]

If you play online, I'd say no. It's just the dashboard, so the question is if it's worth not being online for a new interface.

Say for example, you like playing World of Warcraft. Vista is about to come out, and you're all excited for it. You have the option to try Vista out, but you won't be able to play WoW if you do.

Kinda like that. But not really.

[RelentlessRolento]

k good point... I'll wait.

[KingBroly]

And it just keeps getting worse for Nelson. He's made 3 update changes in the past 2 hours.

[Littlefields]

If you play online, I'd say no. It's just the dashboard, so the question is if it's worth not being online for a new interface.

Say for example, you like playing World of Warcraft. Vista is about to come out, and you're all excited for it. You have the option to try Vista out, but you won't be able to play WoW if you do.

Kinda like that. But not really.
Kinda off topic, but is your avatar Obama? Or do you just look like Obama in real life?

[xtreme_Zr2]

And it just keeps getting worse for Nelson. He's made 3 update changes in the past 2 hours.

Haha, yes, I think giving out his personal email address is sweet and all, but will have dire consequences when he gets overloaded with teh SPAMZ.

[Vulcan2422]

I use to like Nelsons site, but I don't know now.

But yah, I had no problem at all with live. Hell I played The COD Nazi Zombie mode almost all night with not one disconnect. But when I pop in NHL 09, non stop lag and disconnects. Before the NXE, I had 0 disconnects and barley Any lag at all.

[orbit18]

Yeah, ever since I got into the preview program, I haven't been able to talk to my friends through private chat. However, it works perfectly ingame when we play gears of war 2.

[strongpimphand]

I haven't been able to connect for about 3 days now....always fail at the IP address part!

[JJSP]

Just to be sure, which is the cheapest Netflix subscription that'll let me stream to my 360? The $8.99 one?

I haven't had Netflix in a long time, but I'm strongly considering signing up again to take advantage of the feature.

[SynGamer]

Just to be sure, which is the cheapest Netflix subscription that'll let me stream to my 360? The $8.99 one?

I haven't had Netflix in a long time, but I'm strongly considering signing up again to take advantage of the feature.
Yes, $8.99 which includes 1 DVD out and Unlimited Instant Watch.

[LegendK7ll3r]

Just to be sure, which is the cheapest Netflix subscription that'll let me stream to my 360? The $8.99 one?

I haven't had Netflix in a long time, but I'm strongly considering signing up again to take advantage of the feature.

The $8.49 one works like a charm. I can confirm the $4.00 one doesn't work at all with the 360 (I accidentally signed-up for that trial), and then had my brother sign up under the $8.49 trial, and that worked perfectly fine with this.

[slickkill77]

The netflix thing was crap in my opinion. Their streaming library sucks

[Vulcan2422]

Any Good TV Shows and Movies on there?

They charged our CC 20 bucks Cause of the free trial. So now the card is over drafted and We still have no Damn Netflix.

[SynGamer]

The netflix thing was crap in my opinion. Their streaming library sucks
Considering their primary business is DVD rentals...10,000+ instant watch options is a fairly good start.

[moojuice]

Kinda off topic, but is your avatar Obama? Or do you just look like Obama in real life?
The first one.

[CheapyD]

Haha, yes, I think giving out his personal email address is sweet and all, but will have dire consequences when he gets overloaded with teh SPAMZ.That's not his personal email...thats the email for shit like this ;)

[bigdaddybruce44]

Considering their primary business is DVD rentals...10,000+ instant watch options is a fairly good start.

It's great. I already have Netflix and started using PlayOn a few weeks ago, to tide me over until the update. They have a ton of awesome catalog movies and plenty of television shows, too.

[SynGamer]

It's great. I already have Netflix and started using PlayOn a few weeks ago, to tide me over until the update. They have a ton of awesome catalog movies and plenty of television shows, too.
My PlayOn trial expired 5 days ago :( Tried clearing my registry and it still won't install so i'm without until Wed.

[ratzombie]

The netflix thing was crap in my opinion. Their streaming library sucks
So how does the Netflix thing work? Could I link it to my 360, and have you add a couple of flicks to the instant queue? :lol:

[Draekon]

So how does the Netflix thing work? Could I link it to my 360, and have you add a couple of flicks to the instant queue? :lol:

1) Get an account with Netflix if you don't already have one.
2) Download Netflix from the Video Marketplace and run it.
3) Go to www.netflix.com/activate (http://www.netflix.com/activate) while signed in and throw in the key the 360 generates when you run Netflix on the 360
4) Add anything from watch instantly on the netflix website and then it'll be on your 360 to stream
5) Choose video on your 360 and it'll run the video with the picture quality based off of your download speed.


I haven't tried doing it on someone elses and probably won't. I assume there's some type of recognition system in there, however I've had to put in my activation key like three times already. So /shrug

EDIT: It's possible that you could give the "activation key" to someone else with an account and play movies from their account via that method. However activation keys expire pretty quickly I assume, so don't expect for them to work if you wait more than 10 minutes.

[Kevlar281]

The netflix thing was crap in my opinion. Their streaming library sucks


:shame:

My Instant Queue:

Weird Science
Just One of the Guys
Teen Wolf
This is England
The Silence of the Lambs
Glory
Empire of the Sun
Unforgiven
The King of Kong
No Country for Old Men
The Road Warrior
The Professional
The Dirty Dozen
The Office: Season(s) 1 - 4
Weeds: Season(s) 1 - 2
Dead Like Me: Season(s) 1 - 2
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
News Radio: Season(s) 1 - 2
The World's Fastest Indian
8 Seconds
The Final Season
Rowing Through
Heart: The Marilyn Bell Story
Slap Shot
The Hudsucker Proxy
Bigger, Stronger, Faster
Super High Me
Richard Pryor: Here and Now
Raw
Surfwise
A League of Ordinary Gentlemen
The Atomic Cafe
Friday Nights in America
1999 NCAA Div. I: Men's Wrestling

My Instant Queue - Recently Watched:

3 O'Clock High
Super Size Me
Fido
Spellbound

[Persona7]

Music and video streaming is also A LOT faster like seriously, now its instant and it doesnt take time to populate the lists.

[rodeojones903]

I just noticed I got into the second batch of the "beta". I LOVE the netflix streaming. They had a good amount of TV shows, documentaries, and independent movies. It works great and I can not argue against 30 Rocks streamed in HD. :D

[Wolve11]

so is this something to be excited about or is this way to overhyped by MS?

[YodaEXE]

Music and video streaming is also A LOT faster like seriously, now its instant and it doesnt take time to populate the lists.
Really? I found it to be the exact opposite. It takes quite a bit longer to generate lists of songs and such now than it ever did before.

[ProtoEXE88]

I just hope everyone remembered to add the original Zelda cartoon to their Queue.

And I can't wait until wednesday, though it is fun to play around with the leak... without live.

[SynGamer]

so is this something to be excited about or is this way to overhyped by MS?
For reals?

[KingBroly]

So...do games look any better when installed vs. not installed? Some fanboys have claimed it, but I don't buy it.

[zewone]

That's retarded.

[KingBroly]

That's retarded.

Hey, I'm not buying into it, but it has been tossed around.

[Persona7]

Really? I found it to be the exact opposite. It takes quite a bit longer to generate lists of songs and such now than it ever did before.Strange, on the old dash the lists took FOOOOREVER to populate for me.

Now they are just there already loaded.

[Malik112099]

I haven't been able to connect for about 3 days now....always fail at the IP address part!

That is a problem with your home network.



So...do games look any better when installed vs. not installed? Some fanboys have claimed it, but I don't buy it.

Looks the same and I'm sitting 4 feet away from a 56" 1080p tv.

[menikmati]

So...do games look any better when installed vs. not installed? Some fanboys have claimed it, but I don't buy it.

Fanboys they is, teh lies.

[Azumangaman]

So Canada is a no go for Netflix streaming?
I'd imagine they'll release a plan for JUST the 360 streaming?

[JP]

So...do games look any better when installed vs. not installed? Some fanboys have claimed it, but I don't buy it.

What most of them are talking about is the pop-in effects that a lot of games have. From the hard drive the pop-in is reduced or not existent.

[thrustbucket]

Can anyone familiar with the netflix streaming catalog comment on if they have a nice selection of direct to dvd stuff and foreign stuff? That's the stuff I usually get at the video store, not mainstream new releases.

[KingBroly]

What most of them are talking about is the pop-in effects that a lot of games have. From the hard drive the pop-in is reduced or not existent.

I guess that makes sense. But it sounds like it hasn't helped UE3's problems.

EDIT: Perfect time to get disconnected from Live.

[Corvin]

so is this something to be excited about or is this way to overhyped by MS?

I don't think MS has hyped it that much, at least compared to forum posters.

[Metalic]

Installed Gears 2 today and i noticed instantly load times cut in half. Also for those wanting to try Netflix there isnt a big Selection for the instant streaming. Works really well with the HD stream though. Takes like 20-30 seconds for a HD stream to start and 10 seconds for a Non HD-Widescreen stream.

HD quality of the stream is alittle better than DVD but its degraded alot from streaming. Semi HD pretty much. Better than DVD but not quite up to par with HD.

Textures loading while doing Gears 2 MP didnt change. Still some problems with them loading after a match has started. Dissapointed it didnt fix that.

[slickkill77]

Can anyone familiar with the netflix streaming catalog comment on if they have a nice selection of direct to dvd stuff and foreign stuff? That's the stuff I usually get at the video store, not mainstream new releases.


From what I remember they had a lot of odd movies, but I couldnt stream borat so I cancled my membership 10 minutes after I started it

[DestroVega]

From what I remember they had a lot of odd movies, but I couldnt stream borat so I cancled my membership 10 minutes after I started it

Yeah, people expecting it to be like that are going to be let-down.

I have a friend who got Netflix... him and his girlfriend tell me over dinner that it sucked and they canceled cause they don't have "any movies"... they got just the streaming package.

I told them, you do know that they have any DVD you want by mail, and the streaming is just a bonus?...

That's how you have to look at it, a subscription gets you a great service with the bonus option of having some titles streamable. The streaming is really something to give you to watch in case your movies, or 2 movies you have out by mail, are in route back and fourth to Netflix.

[Malik112099]

What most of them are talking about is the pop-in effects that a lot of games have. From the hard drive the pop-in is reduced or not existent.


I could see this. When GTA IV came out there was less pop-in on the PS3 due to the install. I haven't played Fallout 3 without it installed but let me tell you, the draw distance is fucking FAR away.

[coltcannon]

I could see this. When GTA IV came out there was less pop-in on the PS3 due to the install. I haven't played Fallout 3 without it installed but let me tell you, the draw distance is fucking FAR away.

Ive been playing falloutres installed and there is no difference. I still see some trees or something appearing occasionally.

[slickkill77]

Yeah, people expecting it to be like that are going to be let-down.

I have a friend who got Netflix... him and his girlfriend tell me over dinner that it sucked and they canceled cause they don't have "any movies"... they got just the streaming package.

I told them, you do know that they have any DVD you want by mail, and the streaming is just a bonus?...

That's how you have to look at it, a subscription gets you a great service with the bonus option of having some titles streamable. The streaming is really something to give you to watch in case your movies, or 2 movies you have out by mail, are in route back and fourth to Netflix.

The thing is I dont watch movies enough to justify having it and the only reason I did the streaming was so that my friend and I could watch Borat together...even though we both have the dvd....we are strange like that

[LinkinPrime]

Finally cleared my 0 GS game history last night :D

[TC]

Finally cleared my 0 GS game history last night :D

Can you clear all Zero point games now? Regardless of when you played them?

[LinkinPrime]

Can you clear all Zero point games now? Regardless of when you played them?

Yeah, I had Saints Row 2 and Hellboy with 0pts...got rid of both games cause I don't want to have that on my record.

[Javery]

Finally cleared my 0 GS game history last night :D

I can't wait for this!

[Goodeye]

It's a nice option! Gotta clear up Yaris and Vampire Rain

[Kevlar281]

I wonder if we will see more 'press start' achievements now that we have the ability to erase 0pt games from our gamer history. :-k

[KingBroly]

I wonder if we will see more 'press start' achievements now that we have the ability to erase 0pt games from our gamer history. :-k

How many of those are there? Just the one from the Simpsons game, right?

Definitely want a few deleted, like Super C, Sonic games, Prince of Persia, Pac-Man C.E., etc. I'm still waiting on the option to not count achievements while playing games. Sometimes you just want to play and not worry about Gamerscore. Even though you say you don't care, it's still hanging over you.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?

[LinkinPrime]

Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?

It's just OCD, when you look at your game history it says "____ GS out of a possible ______ GS" or something like that...so it counts the XBLA Demos from way before they removed them from being counted.

[SAB-CA]

I'm still waiting on the option to not count achievements while playing games. Sometimes you just want to play and not worry about Gamerscore. Even though you say you don't care, it's still hanging over you.

Eh. I've never understood this line of thinking. It's like "I wish arcade games didn't have scoreboards, because that makes playing them less fun!"

Options to disable counting stats towards achievements would be horrible. "Oh no, I turned off achievement tracking 3 months ago, saved, and forgot about it! Those 3 months of play and kills towards 'Seriously!', all down the DRAIN!"

I still think achievements are just an awesome growth of the "High scores" of old, and adding these little extra trophies to signify our playing skill, our long sessions of gameplay, our dedication to specific games... the only bad thing about them (for me) is boosting. Boosting totally misses the point of accomplishing anything...

.. But anyway, it is nice to be able to remove old arcade demos from the Gamercard, or games that where played by someone else on their Gamer Card, while you were signed in.

I'm really loving Netflix streaming... It's like a single movie ticket getting you access to a huge amount of stuff you may have missed over the years... and I love the fact you can queue up entire anime series... This is infinitely cheaper than buying all these boxsets separately... (And the old Legend of Zelda Animated series is great for pockets of laughter.)

[bigdaddybruce44]

Yeah, I really don't get what the point of turning achievements off would be. If you just want to play the game, just the play. If you turn them off, they are still going to hang over your head, if that's your thing. You'll be playing and go like, "Damn, I could have had all of those achievements."

[Chase]

Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?


I share your opinion. I simply don't care about my gamerscore.

:shrugs:

[YodaEXE]

I share your opinion. I simply don't care about my gamerscore.

:shrugs:
Chase, I've been meaning to ask. What are your avatar and sig image from?

[Chase]

Chase, I've been meaning to ask. What are your avatar and sig image from?


It's Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. :mrgreen:

[SAB-CA]

Chase, I've been meaning to ask. What are your avatar and sig image from?

(LoL, already answered, but anywho...) The Major can take some cool pictures...

[Frogurt.man]

The Major can take some cool pictures...

With tentacles.

[YodaEXE]

It's Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. :mrgreen:
Riiiight! I thought she looked familiar! I need to remember to watch that after I watch the new Appleseed movie.

[PhrostByte]

Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?

Yea I don't get it either.

It's Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. :mrgreen:

Bullshit! That's Lee/Violet from Tekken! :lol:

[Spybreak8]

bigdaddybruce44[/B]]Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?
[quote=PhrostByte;5122329]Yea I don't get it either.

It's so if you have a friend or stranger checking out your games list they don't send invites or compare games that you don't have or don't play. I think it's a good feature, I keep demos on my console so other people can play them even though I don't care for em.

[KingBroly]

So...if any of you guys have NXE...and aren't in the program, you might find this post interesting:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13658421&postcount=1153

But I'd still stay away from it.

[Draekon]

It's so if you have a friend or stranger checking out your games list they don't send invites or compare games that you don't have or don't play. I think it's a good feature, I keep demos on my console so other people can play them even though I don't care for em.

That and it's a pain in the ass to have an extra 20+ games on your list to scroll through because they have 0 gamerscore for whatever reason. Granted I'd like to remove some more to make the list easier to sift through when viewing my games played, but I doubt they'll allow you to delete games with gamerscore.

[Genocidal]

So...if any of you guys have NXE...and aren't in the program, you might find this post interesting:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13658421&postcount=1153

But I'd still stay away from it.
Just tried this with Call of Duty 4 and no dice; as soon as I turn the system on it's asking me to update so when I kick back to the dash from game it asks again and I assume logs me out of Live. May be a glitch that works for Gears still, though.

[bigdaddybruce44]

It's so if you have a friend or stranger checking out your games list they don't send invites or compare games that you don't have or don't play. I think it's a good feature, I keep demos on my console so other people can play them even though I don't care for em.

All right, that makes some sense. At the same time, who invites people to play games that are generally all the way down on someone's list and have 0 GS? I know that I wouldn't bother. It would be pretty obvious that the person doesn't have the game. Even if they have it, it would also be pretty obvious that they don't play it.

I mean, don't get me wrong here, folks. I don't ever discourage the introduction of new features. I am glad we are getting so much with the fall update. Again, though, I just don't get the massive excitement over this particular feature. To me, it's just a small thing that's now nice to have.

[Monsta Mack]

So...do games look any better when installed vs. not installed? Some fanboys have claimed it, but I don't buy it.

Pop-In/Draw Distance is better in some games but obviously It's not going to "look" any better.
Wonder how much better then pop in is in GTA, cause supposedly that's why the PS3 version got a higher mark. But now with the 360 HD install it can't be that much better.

[Persona7]

Of all the things we are getting with this awesome update, the ability to delete the 0 GS games is probably way down on my list. Am I alone here? Everyone seems to be very excited about this and have been asking for it for quite some time. What games are on my list is pretty meaningless to me. I mean, what's the big deal?Back before the last update every single arcade trial game you played stuck to your gamercard, whether you bought it or not. It was just blank space wasting on our gamercards. Luckily I got rid of all that mess. It made it harder to navigate and load, etc.

[YodaEXE]

Pop-In/Draw Distance is better in some games but obviously It's not going to "look" any better.
Wonder how much better then pop in is in GTA, cause supposedly that's why the PS3 version got a higher mark. But now with the 360 HD install it can't be that much better.
I played it a bit earlier. The pop in was quite a bit better, especially while I was doing some high-speed car chases down the highway. There was still some but it wasn't as bad as it was before.

[bigdaddybruce44]

Back before the last update every single arcade trial game you played stuck to your gamercard, whether you bought it or not. It was just blank space wasting on our gamercards. Luckily I got rid of all that mess. It made it harder to navigate and load, etc.

I know all of that already. My question was...who cares? It seems like I'm not alone on this, though, so I no longer feel like I'm missing something.

[KingBroly]

I know all of that already. My question was...who cares? It seems like I'm not alone on this, though, so I no longer feel like I'm missing something.

Here's why people care: People don't want to be dragged into games where they have 0 of anything by their friends. Also, it looks bad on their card. Also, Yaris is really bad.

[SAB-CA]

With tentacles.

:-# THAT is a whole different situation than "Cool", I'd say...

Here's why people care: People don't want to be dragged into games where they have 0 of anything by their friends. Also, it looks bad on their card. Also, Yaris is really bad.

Heh, tell that to the people who keep inviting me to Gears II. I've never played the game, and yet I keep getting blasted invites to it...

Most of the people who do things like Send invites out of the Blue always seem to be hardcore-FPS junkies... I don't play/own many, so I generally seem to avoid the most annoying section of people on Live. Most people you fight on something as niche as Battle Fantasia, are pretty decent individuals.

[ratzombie]

I know all of that already. My question was...who cares? It seems like I'm not alone on this, though, so I no longer feel like I'm missing something.
Why do you have such a problem with other people not wanting games they don't own on their gamer card? Mind your own business.

[Mojimbo]

Heh, tell that to the people who keep inviting me to Gears II. I've never played the game, and yet I keep getting blasted invites to it...Gears has an "invite all" feature.

[KingBroly]

Something's been bugging me the last week about Live, and I think NXE is contributing to it. I'm getting Player Invites when I'm not even online. And for games I don't even have.

[DestroVega]

USA Today ever give a reason why people, like me, got an email saying we were accepted yet never got the NXE early?

[thrustbucket]

USA Today ever give a reason why people, like me, got an email saying we were accepted yet never got the NXE early?

This was sent to someone who wrote Mike (author of the article) today.

Mike Snider wrote:
I understand. At this point, all I can tell you is that I know that only a fraction of the people originally planned have gotten into the preview. I am not personally involved in the approval and passalong of that information to Microsoft, so that's why I have been silent since Friday. A couple of times I posted a note based on what I thought was happening only to have that not come to pass. Could we do it all over again, I would just let people email me directly. But that is not the way the operation is supposed to happen. We are working on a solution for future projects and looking for a way to make it up to those who were left out and disappointed on this one. Stay tuned. And again, I apologize.

And this was written to someone who wrote Sean (Project Manager) today.

Hi Gallager,

Please accept my apologies throughout this effort and thank you for your patience. We're handling these on an individual basis now and you are on the remedy list.

We'll be in touch shortly with an update.

Sean

[m3talst0rm]

USA Today ever give a reason why people, like me, got an email saying we were accepted yet never got the NXE early?

Nope....just this:

Mike Snider wrote:
I understand. At this point, all I can tell you is that I know that only a fraction of the people originally planned have gotten into the preview. I am not personally involved in the approval and passalong of that information to Microsoft, so that's why I have been silent since Friday. A couple of times I posted a note based on what I thought was happening only to have that not come to pass. Could we do it all over again, I would just let people email me directly. But that is not the way the operation is supposed to happen. We are working on a solution for future projects and looking for a way to make it up to those who were left out and disappointed on this one. Stay tuned. And again, I apologize.


I can't wait for them to "make it up" to me....I'm even holding my breath. I expect to hear from them any minute. Any minute now.


EDIT: Ahhh...beat me to it Thrustbucket

[DestroVega]

i don't really blame them but it was a disaster... not a huge deal, i thought it would be cool to have it early to show it off to my friends but other than that, waiting isn't a big deal

[KaneRobot]

Something annoying me that hopefully will be fixed once everyone else has NXE:

When I try to voice chat with someone who doesn't have the update, the audio is all screwed up. Lots of pausing and when it does come through it is sped up to the point it is unintelligible. When I'm actually in-game the chat is fine.

[Goodeye]

Well it was bad enough it prompted me to write up an editorial on the whole NXE hype machine I wont post the url now but if you guys want I will.... It was seen enough that our site even got an email from I believe Mike and Sean saying we where "fair" to them... Trust me we could have been worse.

[Goodeye]

Something annoying me that hopefully will be fixed once everyone else has NXE:

When I try to voice chat with someone who doesn't have the update, the audio is all screwed up. Lots of pausing and when it does come through it is sped up to the point it is unintelligible. When I'm actually in-game the chat is fine.


It will be its because the NXE private chats and messages use a different audio codec. You wont see that issue after the 19th....

[DestroVega]

Well it was bad enough it prompted me to write up an editorial on the whole NXE hype machine I wont post the url now but if you guys want I will.... It was seen enough that our site even got an email from I believe Mike and Sean saying we where "fair" to them... Trust me we could have been worse.

I'd like to give it a read

[bigdaddybruce44]

Here's why people care: People don't want to be dragged into games where they have 0 of anything by their friends. Also, it looks bad on their card. Also, Yaris is really bad.

Like I said, the first part makes sense. The second part, that's why I posed the question and got a lot of good responses from both perspectives. I simply don't get why people make a big deal out of something that does nothing for your Xbox experience. Gamer scores are nice and all, but they don't do anything. It's not like you can convert them into something. So, that's why I have never understood why anyone worries about a game being on there. It's not like people randomly message you, "Oh my God, you have Yaris on your list!!! Hahahahahahah!"

Why do you have such a problem with other people not wanting games they don't own on their gamer card? Mind your own business.

Wow, way to be a jerk? First of all, we're discussing things on a message board. If you talk about things in a public forum, it becomes everyone's business. Second of all, as I have said a number of times already, I don't have a problem with anyone. I just don't get what the big deal is, especially compared to the other great features we're getting. But that's ok. Let's not have a mature, adult conversation about things. Let's just keep our opinions to ourselves and be rude when anyone says something we don't like. Way to go, champ. Seems like you might have had one too many "proooto punches" to the head.

[Vulcan2422]

Don't know if anybody answered this but, did they fix the VGA to DVI handshake that had problems? I know my 360 won't do it cause of the DVI I have on my TV

[Goodeye]

I'd like to give it a read

Here ya go NXE Editorial
(http://xcastonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=613&Itemid=1)

[Soodmeg]

I am very late to the party and know nothing of this.

One question.

How does one who already has Netflix link their xbox with it?

[Goodeye]

You download the netflix app from the marketplace Then when you load it up it will give you a code to link it to your netflix account....

[dmaul1114]

So I just turned on my 360 to play Gears 2 and it did and update and then downloaded and installed the NXE.

Did they decide to launch early or something? Or just let more of the people who registered for the early trial in? I don't see anything about it on Major Nelson's site.

[D4rkewolfe]

I just turned on my 360 to play Gears as well lol...and it made me update...I'm currently installing the NXE...early release?

[bigdaddybruce44]

I just turned on my 360 to play Gears as well lol...and it made me update...I'm currently installing the NXE...early release?

Has to be an early release. After reading the last few posts, I decided to turn on my 360, and the update popped up.

[AshesofWake]

no update for me...

[SynGamer]

No update for me either.

[DiscoDuck8k]

Awww, sweet. Mine is updating too... nice surprise.

[FriskyTanuki]

I just checked and got the update, as well. Is this a final wave of Major Nelson's previews or just MS possibly trying to lighten the load on downloads for the big night?

[bigdaddybruce44]

Well, more people into the preview, I guess.

[AshesofWake]

did anybody that not sign up for the preview, get it? cuz i didn't sign up

[AshesofWake]

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/11/17/sign-up-for-the-preview-you-re-in.aspx

[SynGamer]

Seriously...WHAT THE FUCK?!

[ArJay2k8]

Sign up for the preview? You're in! (http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/11/17/sign-up-for-the-preview-you-re-in.aspx)


Instead of adding another 10,000 people to the preview program like we did last week, we've decided to do something a little different: everyone who successfully applied to the preview program (and had a valid console ID) will be getting the New Xbox Experience sometime within the next few hours. That’s right…we’re hooking everyone else up with NXE a bit early. If you signed up and are not prompted, that means you did not enter your console ID properly and you'll have to wait until Wednesday.

Don’t worry, it’s almost here.

EDIT: aah beat me to it lol