Which city deserves an NFL team more than Los Angeles?

[Xevious]

I was reading an article about how the NFL is checking out various venues in LA and Anaheim to see if they can bring a football team there.

Personally, I don't think LA deserves a football seeing that they lost 2 of them.

What do my fellow CAG'ers think? Which city do you think deserves an NFL football team?

[The Gifuto]

Vegas!!!

[Jaket]

compton?

[evilpenguin9000]

Vegas would seem to be a good choice, although personally I prefer football teams that see winter. Nothing better than watching a football game in the snow.

[Dok Diamond]

alberkerkie or however you spell it, and snow games are the shit.

[Murcielago77]

the problem with vegas would be that their fan base would suck. I mean how many people actually live there who arent waiters, whores, or card dealers? And of those people that live there who arent those how many are football fans??? And I think LA needs one more than vegas

[dafoomie]

The NFL has wanted one in LA forever but Al Davis keeps sueing to keep them out, he thinks that since his team used to be there, its still his territory.

Tough shit Al Davis, you moved from a huge market in LA to a small one in Oakland on your own.

And snowgames are the shit. Pats-Radiers. Pats-Dolphins. Pats-Colts. All great games.

[greyzieoriental]

i think murcielago77 is ignorant, have u ever been to vegas? there are over 2 million ppl in vegas, u think theres 2 million waiters,whores, and card dealers there?most the ppl coming to vegas now are from Cali, especially mexicans are swarming from LA, if u knew anything bout vegas u would know that there is a town beyond the strip, and if there were no football fans there wouldnt be gambling on football games.

Oaktown deserves the raiders more than LA(disappointed they ever left oaktown)

[tyecko]

I think Portland or maybe San Antonio or Salt Lake City could have one.

[dafoomie]

You could put an NFL team anywhere and it'll sell out every game... Look at Green Bay. But LA is the biggest city and the biggest media market that doesn't have a team.

[Xevious]

I think Portland or maybe San Antonio or Salt Lake City could have one.

Portland and Salt Lake are good choices. What about some of the New England Cities like Hartford?

[bignick]

Vegas would seem to be a good choice, although personally I prefer football teams that see winter. Nothing better than watching a football game in the snow.

I agree. I dont think there would be a lot of sell outs in vegas.

[Zenithian Legend]

Detroit

[dafoomie]

Portland and Salt Lake are good choices. What about some of the New England Cities like Hartford?

No on Hartford. In CT, you're either a Pats fan or a Giants fan. The Patriots used Hartford as leverage so they could build their new stadium. Hartford couldn't even hold on to a crappy NHL team.

[Lootr2Core]

How does a city 'deserve' a football team?

[int80h]

Columbus. And get rid of the other 2 Ohio teams.

[epobirs]

Anyplace. I like not having a football team here. I'd be happy to see the others sports migrate away as well.

[twolvesfan21]

Move the Packers to Mexico City. :twisted:

[johnnyoski]

Detroit

Yes, we deserve a "real" team.
I really don't like any of the choices listed so far except for maybe Portland.
How about another team in Texas? Maybe San Antonio?
Oklahoma City could be another location where a pro football team would thrive.

[WildWop]

You could put an NFL team anywhere and it'll sell out every game... Look at Green Bay. But LA is the biggest city and the biggest media market that doesn't have a team.

You could put an NFL team with GOOD MANAGEMENT anywhere and it'll sell out. Just look at Arizona. Bad management = bad team = 5k fans in the stadium.

Why don't we put one in bumblef*ck, somewhere like Nebraska where they take great emotional stock in football. Look at how rabid they are for the 'Huskers. That could translate into an obscene fanbase for a pro team if marketed correctly. Get Norm Osborn on the executive board or something. They worship him like people in Happy Valley worship JoePa.

[Murcielago77]

i think murcielago77 is ignorant, have u ever been to vegas? there are over 2 million ppl in vegas, u think theres 2 million waiters,whores, and card dealers there?most the ppl coming to vegas now are from Cali, especially mexicans are swarming from LA, if u knew anything bout vegas u would know that there is a town beyond the strip, and if there were no football fans there wouldnt be gambling on football games.

Oaktown deserves the raiders more than LA(disappointed they ever left oaktown)

Ive been there about 6-7 times and I know that there is a town beyond the strip but like 70% of the people there are tourists and they arent there to watch sports. Gambling on football does not mean going to the game. Oh and think about this for a bit, football tickets cost money, Mexicans arent gonna spend there money on a football game.

[Zenithian Legend]

I actually kind of like the Vegas idea, as far as cities that don't have a team go. I'd just like to see the Lions win a few play-off games though.

[Lootr2Core]

You could put an NFL team anywhere and it'll sell out every game... Look at Green Bay. But LA is the biggest city and the biggest media market that doesn't have a team.

You could put an NFL team with GOOD MANAGEMENT anywhere and it'll sell out. Just look at Arizona. Bad management = bad team = 5k fans in the stadium.

Why don't we put one in bumblef*ck, somewhere like Nebraska where they take great emotional stock in football. Look at how rabid they are for the 'Huskers. That could translate into an obscene fanbase for a pro team if marketed correctly. Get Norm Osborn on the executive board or something. They worship him like people in Happy Valley worship JoePa.

That would be Tom Osborn, Norm Osborn is the Green Goblin.

[WildWop]

Indeed it would be. At least Norm Osborn can threaten people with pumpkin bombs if they don't go see the games. Now THAT'd be marketing.

[Mr. Anderson]

Detroit

Yes, we deserve a "real" team.
I really don't like any of the choices listed so far except for maybe Portland.
How about another team in Texas? Maybe San Antonio?
Oklahoma City could be another location where a pro football team would thrive.

w00t w00t, San Antonio or Austin definitley need one.

[hiccupleftovers]

i think murcielago77 is ignorant, have u ever been to vegas? there are over 2 million ppl in vegas, u think theres 2 million waiters,whores, and card dealers there?most the ppl coming to vegas now are from Cali, especially mexicans are swarming from LA, if u knew anything bout vegas u would know that there is a town beyond the strip, and if there were no football fans there wouldnt be gambling on football games.

Oaktown deserves the raiders more than LA(disappointed they ever left oaktown)

I agree. There are plenty of families here that would pay to see a football game. And those that bet on Football are fans of it which correlates to them wanting to see their team play in town. Also (don't flame me for this cause I don't know how it would work out But) those same people could bet on that game for their favorite team and then go watch it in person. Las Vegas is one of the largest and only cities that doesn't have a Major sport team at all. they have minor league teams but nothing of the 4 major sports.

[WeaponX2099]

Mexico city and Windsor, Montreal, Vancouner (can't spell it now) , Canada needs a team. Then the football champ can be officially a world champion.

[nikkai]

Hell yeah Vegas needs one.

Freaking riding the currtails of the dumbass raiders. Offense given.
=D

[evilpenguin9000]

Vegas has been trying to get a MLB team recently and the arguement against was that there aren't enough people there to keep a team alive. It is a hard sell when casinos go out of their way to keep people gambling nonstop. Still I think it could work, just for the added tourism factor.

I also agree with Wildwop that Nebraska would be a good spot. Look at Green Bay, it's a super small town but the Packers always sell out. There is nothing else to do so you have to go to the game. It's that simple.

[bignick]

baseball could have morea of a chance. Tickets can be had for $20. NFL tickets are $100+

[Zenithian Legend]

A football team could work in LV because there's only 8 games that they'd have to sell tickets for. It could be another novelty like the new Sigfreid and Roy. Meanwhile LV is one of the fastest growing cities in the US, so I think it could work.

[Wombat]

Idaho, they could be called the Idado, Spuds, they'd have brown uniforms, and the best Fries in the NFL, there mascot would be a giant Mr. PotatoHead, ok I'll stop now

[crazytalkx]

We really need a football team here since apparently most of the idiots living here think that the Raiders are still in Los Angeles. :evil:

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Monterrey, Mexico (i'm sure that's not the correct spelling)

EDIT

Oh and think about this for a bit, football tickets cost money, Mexicans arent gonna spend there money on a football game.

Obviously I disagree with you, racist.

[jimbodan]

Sacramento!!!

[starman9000]

Ive been there about 6-7 times and I know that there is a town beyond the strip but like 70% of the people there are tourists and they arent there to watch sports. Gambling on football does not mean going to the game.

Hmm, I think vegas is the one town that could sell out a match between any 2 football teams at anytime. If the can get people to drop 400 on Celine Deon they can get a stadium full to watch anyone. And yes gamblers will go too. I can bet on horses at a bar or at the track..I think the track is more fun.

[sying]

I think Portland or maybe San Antonio or Salt Lake City could have one.

Portland and Salt Lake are good choices. What about some of the New England Cities like Hartford?

Have you seen Portland?

I could build a city out of shit and it would be better than Portland, no offense to Portlanders, but there is NOTHING TO DO THERE, the main city is just a big run down POS

[CaseyRyback]

Vegas is actually the best and most viable city to get a team aside from LA. It is one of the fastest growing cities(if not the fastest) and it is the number one tourist town in America. The only problem is gambling.

You can't put a team in Nebraska, as no one would go. I think most people in Nebraska would rather have Cornhusker football tickets than tickets to an NFL team.

[sying]

You could put an NFL team anywhere and it'll sell out every game... Look at Green Bay. But LA is the biggest city and the biggest media market that doesn't have a team.

Jacksonville has frequent problems trying to sell out the games, thus the TV blackouts.

Marshall Faulk I hope you break a leg, litteraly. Babys got Stephen Jackson in Fantasy football.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

City that deserves an NFL team.... hmmm.

Fort Smith, Arkansas comes immediately to mind.

[CaseyRyback]

baseball could have morea of a chance. Tickets can be had for $20. NFL tickets are $100+

Tickets were much cheaper than that when I lived in Dallas. You could go to a baseball game for 10 bucks and sit in good seats, and you could go to a football game and sit in crappy seats for like 35.

Then again you were probably talking of Chicago prices.


Also some companies have been lowering prices on tickets. Lowe's motor speedway is a great example of reduction of ticket prices

[bignick]

baseball could have morea of a chance. Tickets can be had for $20. NFL tickets are $100+

Tickets were much cheaper than that when I lived in Dallas. You could go to a baseball game for 10 bucks and sit in good seats, and you could go to a football game and sit in crappy seats for like 35.

Then again you were probably talking of Chicago prices.


Also some companies have been lowering prices on tickets. Lowe's motor speedway is a great example of reduction of ticket prices

Packers tickets are like $200+ Brewers tickets are 10-15. Its all equal though, I mean 8 home games for the nfl versus 60 for a mlb team.

[hiccupleftovers]

Another reason that Vegas could sellout is that they have a motor sppedway that every time there is a nascar event there, it sells out and which they are expanding it by I believe 15000 to 25000 seats.

Also as starman9000 put it, if they can sell out a celione dion show most nights, then they can sell a sport game, in particular football.

[GuilewasNK]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

[CaseyRyback]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

That won't happen as there is a team in Baltimore and DC

no way they stick three teams that close together

[evilpenguin9000]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

That won't happen as there is a team in Baltimore and DC

no way they stick three teams that close together

Yeah the Redskins and Ravens would have a shitfit if they even tried. YOu see how much Baltimore is griping about Northern VA getting a baseball team. Imagine that tenfold if they were to seriouosly approach a football team.

[GuilewasNK]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

That won't happen as there is a team in Baltimore and DC

no way they stick three teams that close together

Yeah, but it worked for the Giants, the Jets,and the Patriots though.

[MadChedar0]

I think they should put a NFL team in Toronto.
And Guile, the NYC area is massive. Not to mention the Patriots are supposed to represent New England. We're talking millions of people.

[Monsta Mack]

Hartford, CT
We lost the Whalers and we haven't had anything since. Heck we have the biggest college basketball program in the US, and we still don't have a basketball team either.

[GuilewasNK]

I think they should put a NFL team in Toronto.
And Guile, the NYC area is massive. Not to mention the Patriots are supposed to represent New England. We're talking millions of people.

I know. The Chesapeake/Tidewater/Virginia Beach area isn't that close to Baltimore and Washington DC though. If you include the cities of Norfolk and Richmond, which is within an hour and a half to 2 hour drive, and bordering NC. You are talking about 2 million people who don't have a major sport other than Nascar within a 2 hour drive. That's more than enough for 8 regular season games.

[Cornfedwb]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

Exactly.. Vegas will never have a professional sports team, just because of the legalized gambling. It would just smack to close to home of game fixing, etc... and not one of the major organizations (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MBA) are going to take that risk.

[danh920]

birmingham, al

they love their football over there

[bignick]

Hartford, CT
We lost the Whalers and we haven't had anything since. Heck we have the biggest college basketball program in the US, and we still don't have a basketball team either.

CT sucks. They wouldnt be able to support any pro team. I'm kinda glad I moved from there.

[danh920]

yeah, Hartford is the insurance capital of the world, it doesn't get much more boring than that

[bignick]

yeah, Hartford is the insurance capital of the world, it doesn't get much more boring than that

Plus CT's economy is going down. So many layoffs.

[Whambamm]

Detroit

Yes, we deserve a "real" team.
I really don't like any of the choices listed so far except for maybe Portland.
How about another team in Texas? Maybe San Antonio?
Oklahoma City could be another location where a pro football team would thrive.

w00t w00t, San Antonio or Austin definitley need one.

As much as I would love for us in Austin to have an NFL team, we really don't need one considering how big of a fanbase we have for UT. Now San Antonio on the other hand would be perfect. I would not mind driving an hour and a half to see a game.

[Graystone]

Dayton, ohio there is no room for a stadium but damn it would be great.

somewhere in the desert.

[RedvsBlue]

Move the Packers to Mexico City. :twisted:

Now that's the best idea I've heard all day.

[hiccupleftovers]

The reason Vegas has no major team sport is because of the gambling aspect. That's why the NFL doesn't want to associate with them.

I'd have to say that the Virginia Beach/Cheasapeake/Tidewater area of Virginia has a huge number of people (at least 700,000) and could support a team.

Exactly.. Vegas will never have a professional sports team, just because of the legalized gambling. It would just smack to close to home of game fixing, etc... and not one of the major organizations (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MBA) are going to take that risk.

Though that is a vaild argument in some respects, there are plenty of cities that have legalized gambling and have a sport team. For instance New Jersey, which has the Nets, has Atlantic City about 30 minutes away I believe. Detroit has the 4 major sport teams with the Detroit PIstons, that jsut one the championshiop, Red Wings, Tigers, and Lions yet they have many casinos around there, some of whihc are owned by the same casinos that are Las Vegas; i.e. the MGM there. I don't believe that Gambling plays that much of a role for a team not to locate it self there. It saying that many games are being fixed by Mobsters like they were in the 30's and 40's.

[Chris Dillon]

Yeah Mexico City. They always support the preseason games there really well and you see the bars there during the super bowl. They are all packed.

[crazytalkx]

Crap we need a football team here. Last time we had a football team was ...........in the xfl............ :evil:

[Mustang O-Line 75]

I am probably the only person I know that doesn't want a football team in LA.

The reason?

Now I can see my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs every week and not have to worry about al davis blacking me out.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I am probably the only person I know that doesn't want a football team in LA.

The reason?

Now I can see my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs every week and not have to worry about al davis blacking me out.

Go Chiefs!