GGT#74 has edged its soul

[JEKKI]

I was watching TV one time and they had like this video gaming competition,

and one of the games is Dead or Alive, the player is sum girl playing another girl,

and the coach of the player is a woman too and all she does is scream angrily at the player like "COME ON! COME ON!!"

and I'm like :oldman::oldman::oldman::oldman:

these gaming leagues and shyt suck... not enough Street Fighter and Tetris Attack in them

[MarkMan]

G4TV had an old show called Arena that actually had real fighting games (this was way back), but only for a few episodes.

My friends ( SD TEKKEN ) and I were on an episode where we beasted on the returning champs in Tekken 4 (but we got raped in Unreal Tournament III and Mechwarrior lol)...

Good times.

[RelentlessRolento]

these gaming leagues and shyt suck... not enough Street Fighter and Tetris Attack in them


werd. werd to yer muther brane.

[Kendal]

I played Rainbow Six Vegas 2 today. It was soooo much fun. I forgot how much I love that game. It also helped I had a partner in crime. Scobie is always a riot to play with.

[Rei no Otaku]

I can't wait for Mercs 2.

[distgfx]

I can't wait for Mercs 2.

I finally took a look at some footage and it actually looked pretty good though I'm still not sure if I'd drop 60 bones for it.

[Foo228]

I finally took a look at some footage and it actually looked pretty good though I'm still not sure if I'd drop 60 bones for it.

Wait 2 weeks and it'll be $40. It's like magic.

[refusedchaos]

Wait 2 weeks and it'll be $40. It's like magic.

or just dont buy it period:D

[guinaevere]

Okay fine, gun or Kendal, explain the goings on in that WoW fight. just basics. (but in here, so I can read it later)

[nyprimus4]

Ugh. Regardless of the reviews I would still drop $40 on Too Human ($50 at TRU plus the 20% off coupon) but I spent like $50 tonight on food/drink/train/bus/taxi going to the Giants, Browns pre-season game. The reviews and my small/medium sized backlog isn't helping either.

It was awesome, three guys were a row ahead of us and they were very drunk including one guy who was pretty smashed, they looked like normal dudes too not like the other hooligans in full body paint screaming Tony Homo at the one guy in the front row wearing a Tony Romo jersey. Pretty much anyone not wearing a Giants jersey was getting hassled, of my three other friends I was the only one in a jersey, blue Plaxico jersey :). As we walked in about 3 guys were just plain heckling this guy in a Favre Packers jersey. We were 16 rows up from the field so when the Browns were in our endzone and Brady Quinn went in, he was screaming "Kill Quinn", "Q-I-L-L Kill Quinn!", and "Quinn the Queafer!" for a good 5 minutes. It was a more of a you had to be there because the guy was at a point of drunkess where you felt kind of embarassed watching him but everyone in our vicinity were just watching him and laughing.

I was tearing up some Braid before I left. We need more quality original 2D platformers on the XBLA. Cough* Castle Crashers *Cough

[heavyd853]

Well, I'm neither gun or Kendal but I've done that fight a few times (I quit awhile ago). its pretty simple you have your rotating tanks because the second highest person on the aggro list gets hit with some nutty 10k attack or something, and everyone else just heals or damages the crap out of him. Watch out for the falling ceiling, youll die! Also he does some sorta blowback thingy that does more damage depending on how many people are in a certian distance of you, so you have to keep spread outish (you can run away for a bit after the blowback).

I think towards the end he gets frenzied or something so the tanks likely will die just before he dies, depending on your gear and stuff.

Thats a quick and dirty rundown, and I don't remember too many details since the last time I did that fight was mooooonths ago.

[SL4IN]

Just got off a long burnout paradise session and it was so so so much fun. Really want to do that some GGT'ers though. (I'm looking at you nelo, daroga, link and gun)

[whoknows]

I can't wait for Mercs 2.

What system are you getting it for?



Also the game I'm excited for is Quest for Booty...that's next week right? Any of you guys want to gameshare it?

[Nelo Ice]

im not sure when i'll be able play burnout or anything on live since i just moved in my cousins house and i either have to convince them to let me have the modem in my room so i can connect via ethernet or im gonna have to get a wireless adapter and i still have to setup a router...and get my laptop and speakers in lol

[Kendal]

I hate the spinnerbox and the keystone. Oh well. Farm gold...farmy farm farm gold. Was Afro Samurai any good?

[Rei no Otaku]

What system are you getting it for?
I'm getting it for 360.

[RelentlessRolento]

not exactly art I like a whole lot but good stuff from I Am 8-Bit:

http://www.joystiq.com/photos/i-am-8-bit-2008/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/08/dsc_0716.jpg

[gunm]

Well, I'm neither gun or Kendal but I've done that fight a few times (I quit awhile ago). its pretty simple you have your rotating tanks because the second highest person on the aggro list gets hit with some nutty 10k attack or something, and everyone else just heals or damages the crap out of him. Watch out for the falling ceiling, youll die! Also he does some sorta blowback thingy that does more damage depending on how many people are in a certian distance of you, so you have to keep spread outish (you can run away for a bit after the blowback).

I think towards the end he gets frenzied or something so the tanks likely will die just before he dies, depending on your gear and stuff.

Thats a quick and dirty rundown, and I don't remember too many details since the last time I did that fight was mooooonths ago.

I've never gotten a toon up to endgame level, let alone done a raid, but that's my understanding--it's just a DPS race with the raid group rotating a team of tanks until the boss is dead. The boss has knockback attacks as well as that cave-in damage, so guys will be running around a lot to damage and avoid taking damage.

As for Mercs 2, I'm going 360. I'll prolly put my GS credits down on a pre-order tomorrow.

[Kendal]

I added to my TL. GGT gets a discount. I really can't wait get my hands on the new Ratchet game.

[MarkMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhAoO2twB0

The HOUSE OF THE DEAD... OVERKILL

I like that trailer/teaser lol.

[suko_32]

I added to my TL. GGT gets a discount. I really can't wait get my hands on the new Ratchet game.

Good price on the sealed Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. Too bad I'm not collecting it though.

[Kendal]

Good price on the sealed Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. Too bad I'm not collecting it though.

I have it on Half for $40 I think. It is the cheapest up there. I am trying to under cut the super greedy and get some new new games. Or anime. Or por...flowers.

[suko_32]

I'm sure you know but you could get more on ebay, like about $50.

[Kendal]

Yeah. I just hate the listing and BS with eBay. I might throw it up there. My buddy has a power seller account I could use.

[guinaevere]

'splain please:


aggro list
DPS race

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhAoO2twB0

The HOUSE OF THE DEAD... OVERKILL

I like that trailer/teaser lol.


the video got taken down :(

is it the new arcade HotD game that's very comedy based about a love story? I really would like that cabinet :P

oh and this looks alot worse than the original :(

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/20852



EDIT:

found a gametrailers upload:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/255235.html


it's not the one I was thinking but glad to see a good lightgun game being added to the wii... there needs to be more of those games on the wii IMHO.

[Krymner]

Good morning GGT!

Closing in on the end of Xenosaga Ep1. I'll most likely have it finished by the time Disgaea 3 comes out and then move into that. I think I'll work on FFX-2 to clean that from my backlog as well.

I'm on the fence about R&CF:Quest for Booty. I might just hold off on getting it until next month, since September is kinda slow for me, probably being only DQ IV and maybe Silent Hill:Homecoming. Oh, and maybe Black Sigil.

October's gonna be hell on the wallet tho.

[benjamouth]

Morning GGT,

Grabbed some cheesemints in Bully then played Resi 4 on Wii for a bit.

My Wii is making a loud buzzing sound, which is slightly worrying.

Could this be the end............

[Chibi_Kaji]

October's gonna be hell on the wallet tho.

heh, I agree with you there. There are 4 games that I want that month and 3 are special editions... And Nov isn't going to be much better.

[hankmecrankme]

I played some GRID PC earlier and the shit kept crashing after the first race. It's some Nvidia-Vista x64 issue, so I said fuck it, I'll play it some other time. I did get lots of 3rd Strike in and a bit of SoulCalibur IV.

Good night GGT. . .

[gunm]

'splain please:


aggro list
DPS race



1) the most hated players on a monsters "hit list". i.e. the players that a monster will concentrate on attacking. For example, you and three friends attack a monster. The monster will be most aggressive to the player who is hurting him the most. If the "most hated" player dies or is somehow removed from combat, then the monster will turn it's attention to the next guy and so on.

2) whoever does the most damage in the shortest or set amount of time wins. DPS = damage per second.


Hoo boy, I'm glad I didn't pay money for that pub games. I'm already like 200+ gold in the hole. Apparently, being in debt before starting the game could be "bad", so I dunno if I even wanna play any more. Beyond that, the games themselves are interesting, if not entirely "fun". I guess if you are in to fake gambling, it's pretty cool.

BCR is cool, but hard.

Madden is mostly as I remembered it, except the graphics, player models, and animations are much more awesome. Not sure if I'm as blown away with 09 like I was with the first Sega DC football game from Visual Concepts, at least from a graphics/presentation standpoint, but I think it's at least a little close. I agree with the reviews I read about the new features being unnecessary, and I'm glad they don't detract at all from the overall experience. I doubt I'll buy 2010, though. I'm willing to try a sports game now and again (particularly when I can get the LE cheap hehe), but will never again do the yearly upgrade thing.

[DarthPuma]

If I didn't have have my zune I would buy that Archos in a heartbeat.

[botticus]

Started playing Summon Night: Twin Age last night. Pretty good through the first two chapters, surprisingly tight controls once you get the idea.

[Chibi_Kaji]

So according to Denis Dyack I hate Too Human becuase it's "innovative and different (http://www.destructoid.com/too-human-haters-don-t-get-it-according-to-dyack-100266.phtml)". That is a relief I was convinced that I hated the game becuase it is a bad game.

[guinaevere]

*diligently taking notes*

Okay, now what about this thing with some bosses and a ten minute timer thingy?


Is good, botticus? I saw it used at GS yesterday but had forgotten the 25% off coupon so I'm going to go back. If it's there I'm thinking of picking it up.

[dmaul1114]

I don't hate Halflife, but I find it the series as a whole to be extremely overrated. When it's good, it's amazing, but when it's bad it's downright horrible. I swear it has some of the worst pacing known to 3D gaming, and the platforming is awkward at best. It's great when it comes to overall immersion though, but I just feel that the gameplay has a lot of good ideas that aren't well executed.

Portal on the other hand I believe deserved all the hype it got from a gameplay perspective. Completely fresh ideas that are well realized and brilliantly executed. Although I think the story and humor were a bit overrated, but that's not to say that aspect of the game wasn't well done.

To each their own I guess. Seems like in general we have pretty opposing tastes in games.

Portal was fine, and I did enjoy it but just not as much as the hype. But it was more just because I'm not a big fan of puzzle games. I do enough thinking in my work so I'd rather just shoot the fuck out of everything in my games!

[botticus]

*diligently taking notes*

Okay, now what about this thing with some bosses and a ten minute timer thingy?


Is good, botticus? I saw it used at GS yesterday but had forgotten the 25% off coupon so I'm going to go back. If it's there I'm thinking of picking it up.I haven't played enough to really give a definitive answer, but if you played the Swordcraft Story games on GBA, it's sort of an adaptation of those to RTS/Action RPG. Seems like there will be lots of skills and item customization to keep things fresh. And so far the AI hasn't been stupid, which is nice.

[blueshinra]

Good morning GGT. Planning on picking up FFVII again; I'm right before a boss battle followed by a looooong story sequence, so I'd been putting it off until I was in the mood again. Also, my right hand is killing me, so DMC3 is right out.

I caught up on a lot of Strong Bad emails last night (via the Internet Channel on the Wii... best way to watch 'em). I might've asked this before in an earlier GGT, but has anyone gotten the first episode of the Strong Bad WiiWare game?

Also, my two pennies on Portal: Funny, imaginative, clever, atmospheric game, but yeah, the hype got a little out of control. I think a big part of it's because gamers aren't used to outright humor in FPS-style games, whereas I'd played quite a few other funny games that year before Portal (PWAA: Justice for All, the first two Paper Marios, StarTopia), and like humor in games in general. As a puzzler, it was very good, though.

Speaking of puzzle games, there was a post (http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/08/18/gaming-to-go-planet-puzzle-league/) on DS Fanboy yesterday about Planet Puzzle League, and commenters started posting their scores. I'm "Reeve" in the comments - my Endless score is pitiful (I think that's because I tend to give up after so long), but my others are among the highest in the thread so far. That made me feel good :)

[guinaevere]

I like good AI. *mutters something about koei and warriors* I've got the Swordcraft games, but haven't opened them yet. =X

Also, my two pennies on Portal: Funny, imaginative, clever, atmospheric game, but yeah, the hype got a little out of control. I think it's because people aren't used to outright humor in FPS-style games, whereas I'd played quite a few other funny games that year before Portal (PWAA: Justice for All, the first two Paper Marios, StarTopia), and like humor in games in general. As a puzzler, it was very good, though.Morning, Sugar.

Yeah, it's slightly bigger than it should be. But when there's a valve label on something, I'm happy when its well recieved and gains some popuplarity with the casual gamer market. I've always found their games and stories to be intelligent and at times provoking. Seeing something of that calibre appreciated by more than the elitists makes me feel there's hope for mankind in general.

[corrosivefrost]

who, what?

[guinaevere]

Specifics please, Mr Frost? What game are you discussing?

[EXStrike]

I caught up on a lot of Strong Bad emails last night (via the Internet Channel on the Wii... best way to watch 'em). I might've asked this before in an earlier GGT, but has anyone gotten the first episode of the Strong Bad WiiWare game?


I got it. Pretty fun, and was also funny. Will keep you busy for a couple hours.

[Chibi_Kaji]

who, what?
It was Mr. Jenkins, In the back room with a rusty fork.

[Krymner]

BCR is cool, but hard.


Tru dat! :bomb:

I've just got a couple more stages till I'm done with the story, but I haven't really tried any of the "challenge" things, so that'll keep me coming back I suppose. Still, its a great investment of $10.

I would LOVE to see another Bionic Commando 2D platformer. Make it happen, Capcom.

[Maklershed]

Howdy fellas (and Gwen <3). I played through some more FFIV this morning and got my ass kicked by that mist dragon in the first cave :oops:. Boy do I suck at RPGs. I got him the second time though. And what's the story with the chocobo nest? When I go to it and investigate I get a pop up screen that says, The stench of the chocobo fills the air and then it takes me to my inventory screen. Is it trying to tell me I should use something there?


So according to Denis Dyack I hate Too Human becuase it's "innovative and different (http://www.destructoid.com/too-human-haters-don-t-get-it-according-to-dyack-100266.phtml)". That is a relief I was convinced that I hated the game becuase it is a bad game.

You've played more than the demo already?

[corrosivefrost]

Howdy fellas (and Gwen <3). I played through some more FFIV this morning and got my ass kicked by that mist dragon in the first cave :oops:. Boy do I suck at RPGs. I got him the second time though. And what's the story with the chocobo nest? When I go to it and investigate I get a pop up screen that says, The stench of the chocobo fills the air and then it takes me to my inventory screen. Is it trying to tell me I should use something there?




You've played more than the demo already?

There an item to use when it's like that, Mak... Gyshyll greens or something to that effect... it's like a chocobo carrot.

[corrosivefrost]

what's the best way to up your star rating in pub games?

[Rei no Otaku]

You've played more than the demo already?
The demo is more than enough.

[benjamouth]

what's the best way to up your star rating in pub games?

Playing the spinnerbox games with a decent bet amount get's you a decent amount of points.

Playing in the tournaments seems to do very little for your rating.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Well, I'm neither gun or Kendal but I've done that fight a few times (I quit awhile ago). its pretty simple you have your rotating tanks because the second highest person on the aggro list gets hit with some nutty 10k attack or something, and everyone else just heals or damages the crap out of him. Watch out for the falling ceiling, youll die! Also he does some sorta blowback thingy that does more damage depending on how many people are in a certian distance of you, so you have to keep spread outish (you can run away for a bit after the blowback).

I think towards the end he gets frenzied or something so the tanks likely will die just before he dies, depending on your gear and stuff.

Thats a quick and dirty rundown, and I don't remember too many details since the last time I did that fight was mooooonths ago.

http://www.ugo.com/images/galleries/sweatmovies_filmtv/8.jpg

NEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDD!

[blueshinra]

Yeah, it's slightly bigger than it should be. But when there's a valve label on something, I'm happy when its well recieved and gains some popuplarity with the casual gamer market. I've always found their games and stories to be intelligent and at times provoking. Seeing something of that calibre appreciated by more than the elitists makes me feel there's hope for mankind in general.
Portal was actually my first Valve game; my husband loves 'em, though. Their work does look like quality stuff overall, but I'm not much of a PC gamer to begin with, and even less of one now that I'm on a Mac all the time (which has Windows on it, but I hate to dual-boot).

I got it. Pretty fun, and was also funny. Will keep you busy for a couple hours.
Good to hear; thanks :)

[guinaevere]

There an item to use when it's like that, Mak... Gyshyll greens or something to that effect... it's like a chocobo carrot.I haven't started it on the DS yet, but unless its different from the earlier versions of the game, this is it exactly. Use the greens and a chocobo will be lured out, giving you access to faster transport on land.

NEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDD!
Shaddup, Preston. Gamers are talking here.

Portal was actually my first Valve game; my husband loves 'em, though. Their work does look like quality stuff overall, but I'm not much of a PC gamer to begin with, and even less of one now that I'm on a Mac all the time (which has Windows on it, but I hate to dual-boot).Oh yeah, <3 Valve. Made of win and nothing less. For someone being introduced at this point in gaming to Half Life 1 & 2, the games (graphics, sound, story) wont be as amazing as when they first came out. But they still hold up comparitively. And I mean, HL2 plays so nicely. And it's got good writing and voice actors. And it's got the perfect man, Gordon Freeman. 8-)


Kendal... I had a question for you and now i've forgotten it. =X

[SL4IN]

The demo is more than enough.

Oh, right. Because the demo = exactly how everything will be in the full game. There's absolutely no differences between them. :roll:

[guinaevere]

Slain, did you get the pokemon shirt from your GS?

[SL4IN]

Slain, did you get the pokemon shirt from your GS?

I did, and I haven't decided if I'm going to wear it or just keep it as a nice display item. I would like to wear it because it's a pretty cool shirt, but I also don't want to ruin it by washing it.

[dmaul1114]

The demo is more than enough.

Indeed. No liking the demo and the shit reviews it's getting are more than enough to write it off. If I was getting bored of the repetitive, bland combat in a 45 minute demo, I see little reason to think I wouldn't be bored stiff with the full game.

Plus Dyak's ravings are enough to make me never want to buy one of his games again even if he actually makes something decent in the future.

[Foo228]

You guys remember talking not-so-hot preorder bonuses?

Well, if you preorder Banjo 3, you'll get the code for the first Banjo free. Now that's tempting.

[Chacrana]

That's not tempting, that's a fucking chore.

[benjamouth]

You guys remember talking not-so-hot preorder bonuses?

Well, if you preorder Banjo 3, you'll get the code for the first Banjo free. Now that's tempting.

I'd be tempted if Amazon has that offer for the 360, I'm not going to GS though. [-(

[linkpwns]

That's not tempting, that's a fucking chore.

Manyg, I dunno what you are talking about.
I loved the shit out of the first Banjo back in the day.
And it still sounds fun to me.
Unless it doesn't pass the test of time...?

[Chacrana]

Manyg, I dunno what you are talking about.
I loved the shit out of the first Banjo back in the day.
And it still sounds fun to me.
Unless it doesn't pass the test of time...?

It doesn't. I liked that game when I first got it back in the day (meaning '98), but it didn't take long for me to realize that there's like.... jiggies, 4 different types of coins, feathers, and a fuckload of unnecessary bullshit to collect. And it sucks. That was the first 3D platformer I bought that I never bothered to finish. A few months after Banjo came out, I bought a PS1 and Tekken 3 and life was so much fucking better. No more stupid-ass platformers from incompetent Rare.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Shaddup, Preston. Gamers are talking here.




Wah.

Speaking of which, I should really finish HL2 Episode 2. I said I was going to throw it in Dat Tree Hundred Sixty last week, but I never did.

Once again, Chac hates everything.

Who's offering the Banjo preorder bonus? I'm down.

[linkpwns]

It doesn't. I liked that game when I first got it back in the day (meaning '98), but it didn't take long for me to realize that there's like.... jiggies, 4 different types of coins, feathers, and a fuckload of unnecessary bullshit to collect. And it sucks. That was the first 3D platformer I bought that I never bothered to finish. A few months after Banjo came out, I bought a PS1 and Tekken 3 and life was so much fucking better. No more stupid-ass platformers from incompetent Rare.
But collecting tons of shit is part of the primary gameplay! That's kinda the fun of it! I dunno, I remember having a blast collecting tons of shit.
I WILL be buying that game when it comes out though, regardless of whether or not I'm pre-ordering Banjo 3.

[Chacrana]

I only hate bullshit that sucks. If shit like Banjo weren't so goddamn terrible, maybe this wouldn't be a problem.

[SL4IN]

I only hate bullshit that sucks.

Funny you say that, because didn't you just like, buy a genesis?

[Chacrana]

But collecting tons of shit is part of the primary gameplay! That's kinda the fun of it! I dunno, I remember having a blast collecting tons of shit.
I WILL be buying that game when it comes out though, regardless of whether or not I'm pre-ordering Banjo 3.

Man, when I was 6, I liked playing Mario is Missing. When you're a kid, you'll play any fucking game and enjoy it.

You're gonna ask me whether you should buy the game when it's out, Ima say "fuck no," and you'll do it anyway. And then you'll play it and realize after 10 minutes, "oh wait, I shoulda listened." This is how it happens every time, linkolnpwns. :lol:

[Chacrana]

Funny you say that, because didn't you just like, buy a genesis?

Hey now, let's not dis the Genesis. That thing has some damn good games.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

I only hate bullshit that sucks. If shit like Banjo weren't so goddamn terrible, maybe this wouldn't be a problem.

Someone needs a hug.

GROUP GGT HUG!

[dmaul1114]

But collecting tons of shit is part of the primary gameplay! That's kinda the fun of it! I dunno, I remember having a blast collecting tons of shit.


I had fun with it back in the day, was still in high school, had tons of free time, needed to stretch my games out as I couldn't afford very many (mainly dependent on parents still) etc. etc.

But I have no patience for collect-a-thon gameplay today. Short, faced paced games are my main squeeze now, being busy as hell and having a limited attention span from having a stressful career.

[SL4IN]

Hey now, let's not dis the Genesis. That thing has some damn good games.

Please Chac, you know and I know that you'd had to be lying to yourself back in the day that buying that was a better choice than getting an SNES.

What did the system have other than 2 Vectorman games, 2 Shining games (shining in the darkness fails in comparison), Comix Zone, Phantasy star, and the copy and paste sonic games?

[Rei no Otaku]

Oh, right. Because the demo = exactly how everything will be in the full game. There's absolutely no differences between them. :roll:
Unless the game completely changes the combat, character animations, shitty story, and bad gameplay I think it's safe to say the demo is a good indicator of what the game will be. That's the whole point of a demo. The company puts it out to show people what its game is like.

Oh and Banjo is garbage.

[Chacrana]

Please Chac, you know and I know that you'd had to be lying to yourself back in the day that buying that was a better choice than getting an SNES.

If you check the Genesis vs. SNES thread, you'll see that I clearly stated "yes, the SNES is better." Because it is. I wouldn't ever claim otherwise.

[SL4IN]

If you check the Genesis vs. SNES thread, you'll see that I clearly stated "yes, the SNES is better." Because it is. I wouldn't ever claim otherwise.

I saw your post in the SNES vs. Genesis thread and I know you know better. But with your recent saturn buying, I thought you would have picked that up over a genesis. Better choice IMO.

[guinaevere]

Banjo never did anything for me.

Cool, slain. Know anyone else who's big into pokemons around here? I was given another shirt yesterday.

Someone needs a hug.

GROUP GGT HUG!I'm not a huggy person, but fine. Only because some of y'all are grumpier than I am, and that's pretty bad. :grouphug: http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1214/chhacjh6.jpg

[KingBroly]

I just got back from Gamestop, picked up 2 games. Dragon Quest VIII and a new copy of God Hand.

[Chacrana]

olol

[SL4IN]

Cool, slain. Know anyone else who's big into pokemons around here? I was given another shirt yesterday.



Option.iv or mcelfour

[MarkMan]

Yea lets all hug so I can breakdance fighting in your faceEEEEEEEEEEEE!

My stomach hurts, I'm at work, I'm lol'n...

good times.

NES

I haven't played shit lately, this sucks. I'm sleepy too.

[guinaevere]

Option.iv or mcelfourThanks, I was about to randomly PM one of them (I dont know either of 'em) but I figured out who to give it to. :-#

[corrosivefrost]

Never played banjo, but after playing a good portion of DK64, I had no desire to.

[StarKnightX]

They need to put both Banjos and DK64 on VC/Live Arcade , so that I can further downsize my n64 collection. Oh and Blast Corps too. Better yet , do a remake/sequel to Blast Corps.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

DK64 IS AWESOME.

But I'm not having this fight again.

[distgfx]

Unless the game completely changes the combat, character animations, shitty story, and bad gameplay I think it's safe to say the demo is a good indicator of what the game will be. That's the whole point of a demo. The company puts it out to show people what its game is like.

I cannot stress enough how much I agree with this. Even if the demo didn't show off everything, the combat system still sucked and that's enough reason for me to avoid this game like the plague.

[Kendal]

If I didn't have have my zune I would buy that Archos in a heartbeat.

Not try to pimp my wares, but Archos shits on the Zune.

That damn spinnerbox cheezmint still escapes me.

[the_punisher]

Is it bad i failled the first mission of BCR 4 times?

Is it bad i can't beat Final Fantasy X? I'm on the third battle with Seymour on the ice mountain where he can kill your characters in one hit, and no i don't have zombie-proof, so it's basically impossible :/.


Anyway, i'm most likely going to get Too Human at TRU. $50 sale + 20% coupon = $40. Nice.

B1G1 1/2 off, i can get any 360 game for ~$30.....wonder what to get....

[refusedchaos]

Oh, right. Because the demo = exactly how everything will be in the full game. There's absolutely no differences between them. :roll:

ive played about 2 hours of the game (GameCrazy got the game on friday) and its the same....craptastic

[blueshinra]

Is it bad i can't beat Final Fantasy X? I'm on the third battle with Seymour on the ice mountain where he can kill your characters in one hit, and no i don't have zombie-proof, so it's basically impossible :/.
If it makes you feel any better, I found that to be one of the toughest battles in the game. Good luck with it!

[Foo228]

Too Human reviews are up on gamerankings - avg 68%.

Ign 7.8/Gs 5.5

[jer7583]

Too Human is a failure and you are too if you buy it

lol

Braid is so good, I'm fully immersed. The puzzles are brilliant!
I might buy Bangai-O Spirts today.. maybe?

I'm torn between Soul Calibur, Puzzle Quest, and Bomberman LIVE! with my extra 800pts..

I already have 800 and 1200 set aside for galaga and castle crashers!

[SL4IN]

Unless the game completely changes the combat, character animations, shitty story, and bad gameplay I think it's safe to say the demo is a good indicator of what the game will be. That's the whole point of a demo. The company puts it out to show people what its game is like.

How can you say all that with a straight face without even having played the full game? But, all in all, you've completely dismissed the game as a whole so even if it was good, you wouldn't see it. All the reviews are all over the place to begin with. gamespot's 5.5 (which in all honesty, gamespot wouldn't know a good game even if it gave 'em a swift kick in the pants. Low scores from them are cries for attention if I ever saw them) to IGN's 7.8. Metacritic seems think that 1Up's C- equates to a 42, while gamerankings says it's a 60. Last I checked, anything in the C range ranked from 70 to 79, but whatever.

It's hard to determine the game "fails" or is a "success" without anything being consistent as of yet.

[Chacrana]

Anyone who's played a lot of games can basically tell whether something's good or bad based on the demo. Too Human's demo didn't have minor issues like an uninteresting environment - it was fundamentally flawed at every turn. And that sort of logic implies you can never tell whether something is good or bad unless you've played the entire thing... which is just ridiculous. It took me about 1 minute of Aegis Wing, for example, to realize that it was cancerous.

[dmaul1114]

How can you say all that with a straight face without even having played the full game? But, all in all, you've completely dismissed the game as a whole so even if it was good, you wouldn't see it. All the reviews are all over the place to begin with. gamespot's 5.5 (which in all honesty, gamespot wouldn't know a good game even if it gave 'em a swift kick in the pants. Low scores from them are cries for attention if I ever saw them) to IGN's 7.8. Metacritic seems think that 1Up's C- equates to a 42, while gamerankings says it's a 60. Last I checked, anything in the C range ranked from 70 to 79, but whatever.

It's hard to determine the game "fails" or is a "success" without anything being consistent as of yet.

Hey, if you have nothing better to do than spend time and money checking out games that you.....

1. Didn't like the demo for.
2. Are getting slammed by your most trusted review sources.

....then that's fine. But I'm busy as fuck, have little time for gaming and a waning interest in gaming as is. So I'm not about to waste any of my precious gaming time buying and playing a game where the demo didn't do much for me and it got shit reviews.

I stick to AAA games in genre's I like. I'll never play 90% of the games that look interesting to me, so best to focus on the cream of the crop and get the most bang out of my gaming time.

The demo and reviews are more than enough to make it clear that Too Human is not an AAA caliber game for me.

I have a life and don't have time to waste giving games second and third chances after not liking the demo much after playing it a couple of times, especially when the game is also getting poor reviews.

[the_punisher]

If it makes you feel any better, I found that to be one of the toughest battles in the game. Good luck with it!

Not really, no. I even grinded for an hour or two in the huge open field ,and maanged to collect every monster like the guy asks you too. My reward is a chest.

......a locked chest......

.....fucker........

I don't think i'll ever beat him :(

[the_punisher]

Hey, if you have nothing better to do than spend time and money checking out games that you.....

1. Didn't like the demo for.
2. Are getting slammed by your most trusted review sources.

....then that's fine. But I'm busy as fuck, have little time for gaming and a waning interest in gaming as is. So I'm not about to waste any of my precious gaming time buying and playing a game where the demo didn't do much for me and it got shit reviews.

I stick to AAA games in genre's I like. I'll never play 90% of the games that look interesting to me, so best to focus on the cream of the crop and get the most bang out of my gaming time.

The demo and reviews are more than enough to make it clear that Too Human is not an AAA caliber game for me.

I have a life and don't have time to waste giving games second and third chances after not liking the demo much after playing it a couple of times, especially when the game is also getting poor reviews.

Not to be mean, but with you being a busy person and all, how do you have time to post 3.89 times a day?

:D

[dmaul1114]

Not to be mean, but with you being a busy person and all, how do you have time to post 3.89 times a day?

:D

Most of my posting (at least 95%) is from work. Can't game here and I have to take my eyes off my data analysis, articles I'm reading etc. every now and then! :D

[gunm]

You can't have ADD and be a "level grindy" person at the same time. ADD means you can't stay focused on one thing for any significant period of time. Level grindy means you can spend hours doing repetitive tasks and find it "entertaining".

As someone who has played a lot of MMOs, I would know. :p

[Krymner]

The only interest I have in Too Human is to watch the crazy review from Zero Punctuation. That's gonna be some funny shit there, I guarantee.

[gunm]

*diligently taking notes*

Okay, now what about this thing with some bosses and a ten minute timer thingy?

Hm, not sure if I'm understanding the question right, and again, I've never actually done this raid, but with the Gruul fight, it's the final battle in a dungeon with multiple stages of progression. As such, the fight was designed in a way where there's so much constant damage going on that at some point, if you don't kill the boss quickly enough, your raid party will simply run out of mana and the raid as a whole will fail (basically healers w/o mana can't heal so tanks will die, and casters w/o mana are dead meat in a robe).

[jer7583]

Yeah ADD was the wrong word, there's another word for that.. obsessive-compulsive maybe?

[gunm]

Aw, I like Pokemon. Well, at least I like Pokemon Diamond/Pearl. I admit the previous games didn't interest me all that much, but probably because I also assumed that they were just for kids.

I'll probably get Platinum because it seems to add some new interesting features over the current game. I hear the GBA series weren't particularly different from game to game, so in a way I'm glad I waited until the DS-era to pick it up.

I think OC was probably the word you were thinking of, jer.

[Rei no Otaku]

How can you say all that with a straight face without even having played the full game? But, all in all, you've completely dismissed the game as a whole so even if it was good, you wouldn't see it. All the reviews are all over the place to begin with. gamespot's 5.5 (which in all honesty, gamespot wouldn't know a good game even if it gave 'em a swift kick in the pants. Low scores from them are cries for attention if I ever saw them) to IGN's 7.8. Metacritic seems think that 1Up's C- equates to a 42, while gamerankings says it's a 60. Last I checked, anything in the C range ranked from 70 to 79, but whatever.

It's hard to determine the game "fails" or is a "success" without anything being consistent as of yet.
Are you fucking serious? You're telling me that I shouldn't judge a game based on a 2 hour demo the developer put out just so I could judge whether I want the game or not?

You're acting like there was slowdown, texture pop-in, the level they chose, or something wrong that could be fixed before the game releases. Almost every fundamental aspect of the game was a pile of shit. So as I mentioned, unless the retail release is a completely different game then Too Human sucks. And it seems most of the reviewers have been agreeing with me.

[russellgreco]

Great post. It'll be lost on someone who spends his time playing Pokemon games, of all things, though. Too human should fit right in with that level grindy, ADD personality, still lives at home so has too much free time type.

I'm thinking of trading in my PS2 slim at gamestop.. It's been boxed up for a few months, and they're offering something like $60. But i'll probably not do it.

I don't think your comments are true or add anything constructive to this conversation, instead they personally insult someone for no reason other than they disagree with an opinion you have.

Plus, get off pokemon. It's a solid game with solid mechanics. There is nothing wrong Pokemon.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
It's a dungeon crawler... it's going to take a lot of time from you (Diablo comes to mind).

If you don't like a game because you didn't like the demo then that is fine. Don't buy the game. That being said, there is no reason to completely dismiss a game from being successful or to bad mouth it simply because you didn't like what you have seen. Many people enjoyed the demo, I did, enjoy the settings, and game play. Everyone has different taste.

As for reviews, critics have wildly different opinions about this game. Some people here say the scores are bad or that the game is a flop based on some of these scores. Any game that can score a 7.8 and an 8 from two credible sources and a 5.5 and C- from two others definitely has a polarizing effect. However, the game is far from bad simply because two sites claimed foul; the two better scores enjoyed it. This is without even arguing interpretation of what a 5.5 or what a C- means. Some say 5.5 is the new 7 from sites that never go below 6 and C- means anything from 42 to 70 (metacritic, grade school, gamerankings). It's all a bunch of bs from critics who barely retain any professionalism for an industry that backasswards when it comes to reviews and biases. What does it all mean? I don't know. You like the demo, good, buy the game. If you don't, then don't.

No one here is prophetic and can tell if this game will flop, definitely not from a demo, and I believe shortsighted write-offs to be a dangerous and narrow-minded path.

[jer7583]

Are you fucking serious? You're telling me that I shouldn't judge a game based on a 2 hour demo the developer put out just so I could judge whether I want the game or not?

You're acting like there was slowdown, texture pop-in, the level they chose, or something wrong that could be fixed before the game releases. Almost every fundamental aspect of the game was a pile of shit. So as I mentioned, unless the retail release is a completely different game then Too Human sucks. And it seems most of the reviewers have been agreeing with me.

Rei I like when I agree with you, however rare that is. lol.

JERs UNITE!!

Now, about dynasty warriors.. ;)

Hey SL44IN let's play some Burnout Paradise sometime!

[gunm]

Well, to be fair Rei, the Burnout Paradise demo was terrible (or a least a bad idea based on the general concept and flow of the game), but the retail release was quite a bit better.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yes, but the Burnout Paradise demo wasn't bad because of bad gameplay. It was bad because of how they set the demo up. The fundamentals were all the same fundamentals found in the retail game.

[russellgreco]

Are you fucking serious? You're telling me that I shouldn't judge a game based on a 2 hour demo the developer put out just so I could judge whether I want the game or not?

You're acting like there was slowdown, texture pop-in, the level they chose, or something wrong that could be fixed before the game releases. Almost every fundamental aspect of the game was a pile of shit. So as I mentioned, unless the retail release is a completely different game then Too Human sucks. And it seems most of the reviewers have been agreeing with me.

Perhaps he is referring to your extreme exaggerations. Every aspect of this game is shit? Come on, that is unreasonable and never in a million years can I believe someone to be so polarized, unless you are forcing yourself into that position; devil's advocate perhaps?

You don't like the game, which is VERY clear. You're position of absolutely nothing benign in the demo is ridiculous and erodes you're position. It makes people think that your conclusions were hasty and that you didn't

A. Give the demo a real chance, at all.

B. Had already made your mind up before playing the demo.

C. All of the above.

So basically you probably wrote the game off from game play footage or some pictures, in the back of your mind you felt the need to justify your already made opinion, so you play the demo (probably curtailed effort) and then make your final “educated decision”.

You don't have to like the game, but what you're talking about is simply heresy and just unfair.

[gunm]

Yeah, that's true Rei. The BP demo did turn some people off to the game though. I'm sure the Internet buzz about it didn't help either.

Sorry Slain, but Too Human just doesn't look good to me. I do recommend that people rent that game if they really aren't convinced about the demo. Of course, maybe spinning in circles and hitting the attack button to kill everything is your bag, I dunno.

[jer7583]

I laughed through every minute of that horrible demo both at the demo itself and that there is a whole building of people who approved of this product and worked together for years to create it. It's a mediocre game on it's own, and an atrocity with the unavoidable context surrounding it.

Too Human took over 10 years to make!! And they come up with this shit?? Seriously..

[kainzero]

You don't have to like the game, but what you're talking about is simply heresy and just unfair.
HERESY?

man, this is serious business now.
people have burned at the stake for heresy.

you better watch out, rei.
this ain't no joke.

[Rei no Otaku]

Perhaps he is referring to your extreme exaggerations. Every aspect of this game is shit? Come on, that is unreasonable and never in a million years can I believe someone to be so polarized, unless you are forcing yourself into that position; devil's advocate perhaps?

You don't like the game, which is VERY clear. You're position of absolutely nothing benign in the demo is ridiculous and erodes you're position. It makes people think that your conclusions were hasty and that you didn't

A. Give the demo a real chance, at all.

B. Had already made your mind up before playing the demo.

C. All of the above.

So basically you probably wrote the game off from game play footage or some pictures, in the back of your mind you felt the need to justify your already made opinion, so you play the demo (probably curtailed effort) and then make your final “educated decision”.

You don't have to like the game, but what you're talking about is simply heresy and just unfair.
D. You're making shit up when you don't know anything about me.

I didn't like anything in the demo. Why is that so hard to believe? I wanted this game to be good. I'm sure you could look up old posts of mine where I say I was looking forward to it. I played through the demo twice with two different character classes. Playing a game for 4 hours is more than enough time I think.

I'm not arguing whether or anyone else can think Too Human is good. If you liked the demo, then good for you. It's quite easy for me to accept that. I'm just arguing the fact that an opinion can't be made based on the demo, when that's the whole point of the demo in the first place.

[the_punisher]

HERESY?

man, this is serious business now.
people have burned at the stake for heresy.

you better watch out, rei.
this ain't no joke.

Heresy? We're not playing Halo 3 (but if we were, that would be pretty cool 8-)).

[jer7583]

I really want to buy a clear orange DVD case to put my Orange Box for 360 in. I haven't been able to find any retailers that sell them, though..

A nice 4 disc holder for lost odyssey would be nice too.

[russellgreco]

D. You're making shit up when you don't know anything about me.

I didn't like anything in the demo. Why is that so hard to believe? I wanted this game to be good. I'm sure you could look up old posts of mine where I say I was looking forward to it. I played through the demo twice with two different character classes. Playing a game for 4 hours is more than enough time I think.

I'm not arguing whether or anyone else can think Too Human is good. If you liked the demo, then good for you. It's quite easy for me to accept that. I'm just arguing the fact that an opinion can't be made based on the demo, when that's the whole point of the demo in the first place.
That's not true I know quite a bit about your taste in games and some of the crazy positions you take on franchises.

I think it is quite possible that you denounce a game unfairly or to quickly.

I also doubt there is nothing there that you like, or in that case you never gave it a chance from the start.

It is also possible that people use such exaggerated language and I am not as desensitized to it as many of you. I think it is a very very strong statement when you say NOTHING is good about Too Human; I believe it is all a pile of shit was your words or about. That to me seems ridiculous, and hence a ridiculous stance.

[KingBroly]

So I just opened up my rental copy of Overlord from Gamefly hoping to finally beat it...and I'm not putting this thing in my 360. Cracks in the center of the disc, and the disc has little changes in height around the edges. Disappointing Gamefly, very disappointing.

[dmaul1114]

If you don't like a game because you didn't like the demo then that is fine. Don't buy the game. That being said, there is no reason to completely dismiss a game from being successful or to bad mouth it simply because you didn't like what you have seen. Many people enjoyed the demo, I did, enjoy the settings, and game play. Everyone has different taste.


I just don't get how people who liked the game off the demo and plan to buy it off of that can bash people who didn't like the demo and don't plan to buy it because of that. They're making they're decision off the demo just like the people who thought it sucked balls and won't buy it.

It's just a matter of different tastes, just like you said. There's nothing wrong with judging games based off of demos and/or reviews, especially for games you're on the fence about. Most of us don't have time to seek out and play full versions of every game that remotely interests us. Demos and reviews offer a way to prioritize our limited gaming time. That's what they are there for.


No one here is prophetic and can tell if this game will flop, definitely not from a demo, and I believe shortsighted write-offs to be a dangerous and narrow-minded path.


I don't think anyone has said it would flop, just that they thought it was a turd from the demo and the reviews are mostly reinforcing that. The camera sucked. The controls sucked. The cutscenes/story were lame. The menus were terrible. The only thing it had going for it was the diablo-esque loot system and even that apparently sucks from the reviews. So it's easy to see how people can be so negative since pretty much all the fundamentals of the game were flawed and reviews are showing that the same complaints hold true in the full game.

As for shortsighted write-offs. Who gives a fuck. These are video games we're talking about. Silly little time wasters we have fun with. Not some piece of fine art people miss out on buy not playing the full version.

[Chacrana]

I love it when people try to sound intelligent.

[distgfx]

There is nothing good about it, I didn't even know about it before the demo. I downloaded it because I was bored, played it for a while then deleted it because I thought it was crap. Is my opinion ridiculous?

[Chacrana]

I must be unfairly fuckin' biased, because I saw the gameplay vids of the demo, saw that there was clearly no polish whatsoever in the game, and then the demo confirmed my suspicions. No, it musta been good, I'm just biased.

[MarkMan]

I love it when people try to sound intelligent.

I love it when people pull it off and ppl buy it. Like when I post all these lies/bs. bwahahaha

XBAND

[Rei no Otaku]

There is nothing good about it, I didn't even know about it before the demo. I downloaded it because I was bored, played it for a while then deleted it because I thought it was crap. Is my opinion ridiculous?
Yes. We're all ridiculous for not liking Too Human.

[Chacrana]

I love it when people pull it off and ppl buy it. Like when I post all these lies/bs. bwahahaha

XBAND

Dude, you totally lie!

[JEKKI]

I love it when people try to sound intelligent.


hellz yah, science bitches!! e=mc squared.

integrate chill from 93 to infinity.

QUANTOM!

[gunm]

The GGT lies.


Believe it!

[dmaul1114]

Yes. We're all ridiculous for not liking Too Human.

Indeed.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-186128.aspx


"The people who don't like it generally just don't get it," Dyack tells OXM.

"And it's because we've created something so innovative and different," he explains. "It's ironic, it just shows that human nature of if you don't understand something, you immediately attack it. It's pretty interesting in that regard."



Maybe one of these people getting their panties in a bunch is Dyak. Read somewhere on CAG today that he got banned from NeoGAF today so he may have drifted over here. :D

[russellgreco]

I just don't get how people who liked the game off the demo and plan to buy it off of that can bash people who didn't like the demo and don't plan to buy it because of that. They're making they're decision off the demo just like the people who thought it sucked balls and won't buy it.

It's just a matter of different tastes, just like you said. There's nothing wrong with judging games based off of demos and/or reviews, especially for games you're on the fence about. Most of us don't have time to seek out and play full versions of every game that remotely interests us. Demos and reviews offer a way to prioritize our limited gaming time. That's what they are there for.



I don't think anyone has said it would flop, just that they thought it was a turd from the demo and the reviews are mostly reinforcing that. The camera sucked. The controls sucked. The cutscenes/story were lame. The menus were terrible. The only thing it had going for it was the diablo-esque loot system and even that apparently sucks from the reviews. So it's easy to see how people can be so negative since pretty much all the fundamentals of the game were flawed and reviews are showing that the same complaints hold true in the full game.

As for shortsighted write-offs. Who gives a fuck. These are video games we're talking about. Silly little time wasters we have fun with. Not some piece of fine art people miss out on buy not playing the full version.

That's true it is just a game, but I mean we are on a video game forum; Isn't the point to talk about video games? If we don't then everything is semantics and no threads woud have any purpose.

I am fine with the demo and how people feel about it. The reviews, however, are not enforcing that. I just don't see it. A game that gets an 8 and a 7.8 is not a crappy game, ever. At worst it's average. Is an average game totally flawed? Is an average game crappy all around? That's what people seem to indicate, and then they back their own opinion with critics (as you just did). The scores don't seemt to indicate this at all. Further, the problem is compounded when playes give it a C- or a 5.5 but indicate it is average or mediocre. Does this imply all average games have all the previousely stated flaws? I don't think so.

If no one is claiming that by their relation to the demo the game will flop then that is great, that's where a problem lies, and if there is none of that then there is no problem.

[benjamouth]

The GGT lies.


Believe it!

[-(

[dmaul1114]

That's true it is just a game, but I mean we are on a video game forum; Isn't the point to talk about video games? If we don't then everything is semantics and no threads woud have any purpose.

We are discussing the game. Saying the demo sucked, the reviews suck and we aren't picking it up.

We're not talking about games when people are bitching about other's opinion on the game as we drifted into whether forming opinions from demos was valid etc.


I am fine with the demo and how people feel about it. The reviews, however, are not enforcing that. I just don't see it. A game that gets an 8 and a 7.8 is not a crappy game, ever. At worst it's average.

Game reviews rate way too high. There's very few games I've ever liked below 85-90% on gamerankings. I'm very picky and only want to play the cream of the crop.

Too Human may not completly suck, but it was very flawed for me with the shitty camera, lame controls, terrible menu and lame story in the demo. And reading the reviews I see the exact same complaints. That's how the reviews reinforce the complaints I had with the demo--in the text. I wasn't referring just to the arbitrary number scores.


Is an average game totally flawed? Is an average game crappy all around?

There are degrees of crappiness, but anything below a personal A- or B+ game isn't worth playing to me so I don't care much below that point.


If no one is claiming that by their relation to the demo the game will flop then that is great, that's where a problem lies, and if there is none of that then there is no problem.

Quote someone who said that. People have just said they thought it sucked as far as I can recall. I never talk about games selling well, bombing, etc. as I couldn't give a shit less about game sales.

[russellgreco]

We are discussing the game. Saying the demo sucked, the reviews suck and we aren't picking it up.

We're not talking about games when people are bitching about other's opinion on the game as we drifted into whether forming opinions from demos was valid etc.



Game reviews rate way too high. There's very few games I've ever liked below 85-90% on gamerankings. I'm very picky and only want to play the cream of the crop.

Too Human may not completly suck, but it was very flawed for me with the shitty camera, lame controls, terrible menu and lame story in the demo. And reading the reviews I see the exact same complaints. That's how the reviews reinforce the complaints I had with the demo--in the text. I wasn't referring just to the arbitrary number scores.



There are degrees of crappiness, but anything below a personal A- or B+ game isn't worth playing to me so I don't care much below that point.



Quote someone who said that. People have just said they thought it sucked as far as I can recall. I never talk about games selling well, bombing, etc. as I couldn't give a shit less about game sales.

I can understand your need to pick the cream of the crop. Generallly though games that score well have massize hype, are more generic, and tend to be lax in nature. The Halo's, Mario's, etc, etc, come to mind. If anything below B+ is considered to be crappy, or a degree of crappiness that is too large, I would think that a large amount of games (many of which are good) woud get by you. Perhaps because they are misunderstood or polarizing to reviewers. It seems like a scenario that would only cause grief to you. Then again, they are only games and a serious hobby at best.

I still don't see the review scores as bad, 7.8 -8 (average?).
I don't think review scores agree with many of the opinions expressed by others, but they seem to think they do. I don't know if having a journalist agree with you is something some people need, but I don't see it.
I think short sighted or exagerrated sentiments are dangerous.
People throw a lot of exaggerated terms around like nothing.

I meant there was no problem about it bombing, I thought someone had mentioned it earlier, but I believe you and others when they say that wasn't said, so there is no problem. I could also be thinking of another forum.

[Chibi_Kaji]

You've played more than the demo already?
I'm not going to need more then a demo to tell me that both the combat and controls are shit.

[dmaul1114]

..... I would think that a large amount of games (many of which are good) woud get by you. Perhaps because they are misunderstood or polarizing to reviewers. It seems like a scenario that would only cause grief to you. Then again, they are only games and a serious hobby at best.


Again, I never rely solely on reviews. A lot of games I know I want and don't bother with them at all (Gears 2 for instance). And even for a game like this where I was no the fence, I spent a couple hours with the demo and that factored into my decision much more than the reviews. The text of reviews just reaffirmed to me that the problems I had with the demo were still in the final game.


I still don't see the review scores as bad, 7.8 -8 (average?).
I don't think review scores agree with many of the opinions expressed by others, but they seem to think they do. I don't know if having a journalist agree with you is something some people need, but I don't see it.


I don't think they're terrible per se. It's just that I seldom have enjoyed games that reviewed in that level. And, as I noted reviews tend to be inflated for games vs. movies IMO. Again I'm just very picky as gaming is just a minor hobby for me and I have other things I enjoy doing more in my spare time. And again I don't rely soley on reviews and often pay them no heed. I certainly don't need my opinion of a game, movie etc. validated by others--I really don't care what others think about a game I like or dislike. I just occasionally use reviews as part of the process of deciding which "on the fence" games are worth picking up.


I think short sighted or exagerrated sentiments are dangerous.
People throw a lot of exaggerated terms around like nothing.

On serious topics of relevance in the real world? Sure. But not when discussing silly hobbies we have like games. There's not harm in being blunt and exaggerating opinions on something as banal as games.

I probably come off as blunt and callous sometimes but that's just because:

1. I don't care that much about games or take them seriously despite the decent amount of posting I do here.

2. 95% of my posting is just taking quick little, couple minute breaks from whatever I'm working on at the office so most of the time there's not a lot of thought behind my posts.

[Chacrana]

When were the review scores 7.8-8? That was IGN and... that's it?

Gamerankings is saying 67.8% right now... that ain't too good.

[distgfx]

I like how some of the arguements bring up the review scores. Forget about review scores, they're just someone's glorified opinion.

[dmaul1114]

I like how some of the arguements bring up the review scores. Forget about review scores, they're just someone's glorified opinion.

I never pay attention to individual review scores. For games I'm on the fence I:

1. Look at game rankings. If the average is low, it's probably something I'll skip on, if it's high it's worth checking out for myself.

2. I'll read the text of a few reviews and see what the complaints are. If they are things that annoy me in games, then I'll probably skip it. If the complaints are things that don't bother me much it's probably worth checking out for myself.

But that's about it, I don't care about any one person's opinion on a game, but the overall average is a decent barometer and reviews can be useful for seeing what people list as the pros and cons of the game and seeing how those mesh with your own tastes.

[Kendal]

I just sold my soul to the devil and got WoW. I shall be without a life by the weekend. Fuck!

[gunm]

I just sold my soul to the devil and got WoW. I shall be without a life by the weekend. Fuck!

Your turn to the dark side is now complete...

[distgfx]

Your turn to the dark side is now complete...

That's a blatant insult to the dark side.

[russellgreco]

When were the review scores 7.8-8? That was IGN and... that's it?

Gamerankings is saying 67.8% right now... that ain't too good.


Game Rankings also has a C- listed as a 60. All of the sites seem to have different scales which game rankings treats as equals and does a simple average.

For example, a 5.5 for gamespot is listes as average or mediocre. A C- , to most, is average or mediocre. So does a C- equal a 5.5? They aren't even on level playing fields, that average means practically nothing.

I still don't see the point in debating semantics about tone. I think a discussion should always have a certain tone, but thats probably because of my background. I also understand that many people are posting quickly and between breaks, but does it really take that much longer to be succinct with your language. See, this is a waste, why even talk about tone or seriousnes. Simply enter into the conversation or don't and dicuss point by point or not. I don't even know why the semantics card is pulled.

[dmaul1114]

For example, a 5.5 for gamespot is listes as average or mediocre. A C- , to most, is average or mediocre. So does a C- equal a 5.5? They aren't even on level playing fields, that average means practically nothing.


See, that's the problem with a 10 point number scale--sites never use the whole scale. Sites list a 5 as average....but they seldom use it for average games. It gets used for crappy games and it takes something truly putrid to score worse than a 5. See if you can take a look at gamespot reviews for games scoring below a 5 and see how many you'd consider average (same with EGM/1up before they went to letter system). Average games are more in the 7-8 range, despite how they describe their scales. So, again, for me I seldom find games below an 8.0 average that I find worth playing, given my strong efforts to only play the cream of the crop.

That's why I like EGM/1up's letter system more. They seem to be doing a bit better with giving C's to average games and giving Ds (don't know that I've seen an F yet) for crappy games.

[gunm]

That's a blatant insult to the dark side.

No way. The Dark Side plays Horde on Kil'jaeden and raid every Sunday for Tier 4 gear even though they don't need it.

They are evil after all.

[distgfx]

No way. The Dark Side plays Horde on Kil'jaeden and raid every Sunday for Tier 4 gear even though they don't need it.

They are evil after all.

I have no idea what the hell you just said, I'm not sure whether to be insulted or laugh.

[Chacrana]

Well, whatever, everyone's said it's mediocre so...

[hankmecrankme]

Add me to the Too Human haters. :) Demo was just boring and rough. Yeah, maybe the retail version is better, but I'm not going to find out unless somebody gives me a copy for free.

If I'm going to dungeon crawl, I'm doing it on PC.

BCR coop is too much fun. :)

[Azumangaman]

I got a points card for Castle Crashers whenever it comes out (27th).
Oh, and the Too Human demo was awful, so I'm not touching the game.

[gunm]

I still don't know what to make of this game.

It looks fantastically boring and extremely interesting to me at the same time--wtf?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38536.html

[Chacrana]

That makes Pokemon Snap look like "MOTHERFUCKING EXCITEMENT: THE GODDAMN GAME"

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, I could never get into these non-games (as I call them) where you're just doing something that's only fun if you were to do it in real life.

I play games to escape for a while, so I like to do stuff I couldn't do in real life...you know like blow shit up, shoot aliens, explore fantasy worlds etc. Not take pictures of shit that I could save up money for and go do for real. Plus I don't even like taking pictures in real life.

[hankmecrankme]

Yeah, I could never get into these non-games (as I call them) where you're just doing something that's only fun if you were to do it in real life.

I play games to escape for a while, so I like to do stuff I couldn't do in real life...you know like blow shit up, shoot aliens, explore fantasy worlds etc. Not take pictures of shit that I could save up money for and go do for real. Plus I don't even like taking pictures in real life.

QFT, though I do like taking pictures, which I'd rather do in real life and not some game. :)

[gunm]

If Afrika had some kind of Cabela or GTA element to it, I think it would be the bee's knees.

Kill or be killed in the safaris of Africa! Realistic animal aggressive behaviors! Fully desctructible environments! Select from hundreds of guns, bows, ammo, and camo gear!

[Chacrana]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61KJNGZXG2L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

?

[Kendal]

I have to figure out what what kind of character I am going to make.

[heavyd853]

If you plan on doing alot of PvP, Warlock.
If you plan on doing alot of PvE.....Warlock.

[RelentlessRolento]

man... another late day... I need to stop going to bed at 7am and waking at 6pm >_<

I'll just blame the hurricane.

[suko_32]

man... another late day... I need to stop going to bed at 7am and waking at 6pm >_<

I'll just blame the hurricane.

Still just cloudy here.

[hankmecrankme]

Still just cloudy here.

I read that and then looked at your laughing Ken avatar, and it made it sound like you were rubbing it in. ;)

[ninja dog]

wow, this gaf thread is super tasty. david jaffe and raven software representing, meltdowns galore, dyack on suicide watch. forum drama lulz

[RelentlessRolento]

Still just cloudy here.


same here. not the best weather but at least trees aren't all over the place.

[Dandeschain]

Damn, everyone's got their panties in a bunch over Too Humang. Doesn't seem worth the effort.

That makes Pokemon Snap look like "MOTHERFUCKING EXCITEMENT: THE GODDAMN GAME"

Haha, I'll be laughing about this all night.

Might actually play something tonight. Been staring at my copy of Xenosaga. Maybe some 1942.

Anyone got one of them PS3 memory card transfer kits I can borrow?

[DarthPuma]

Heavy Update out. Consequently, I call dibs on GGT 75.

[RelentlessRolento]

i call dibs on dibs.

[gunm]

I have to figure out what what kind of character I am going to make.

I like hunter for soloing. Lock does well for that too (undead lock).

Pally would be cool if you plan on getting Lich King (it unlocks the Death Knight class, which sounds awesome on paper).

Druid, Shammy, and Mage (gnome) all have awesome higher level spells. Watching mages kiting is interesting, and they can sheep (whee).

Warriors, and priests are good for group oriented play, although all classes can supposedly solo ok.

My first main in WoW was an undead rogue. Stun lock was fun and I liked being able to sneak around large camps that other classes have to grind through for certain quests.

Goddamn, but the more I see of RE5, the more I want it.

And I call dibs on ribs.

[nyprimus4]

Spent all day (9 AM-7 PM) at Splish Splash. It is a top ten water park in the entire country. Pain in the ass that I had to drive out there though, something like 50 miles each way, only like an hour and a half though each way. First time I have driven a distance like that. ROAD TRIP!!!!

OMFG at Banjo news. I hope they still plan on putting out Tooie though. New Gamestop just opened about 2 minutes from my house with some really cool employees so I'm hoping GS is planning on carrying the preorder bonus.
RE5 looks hawta then eva.
Far Cry 2 map editor looks ridicilous.

Madden? Braid? HD movie off XBLm?

[MarkMan]

Okay before anyone talks shit about these products:

http://kotaku.com/5039035/mad-catz-making-official-street-fighter-iv-controllers

I'll have you know they are going to be damn good.

[corrosivefrost]

Not really, no. I even grinded for an hour or two in the huge open field ,and maanged to collect every monster like the guy asks you too. My reward is a chest.

......a locked chest......

.....fucker........

I don't think i'll ever beat him :(

I don't know that I had trouble with him there... I don't remember having anti-zombie stuff either. I had more trouble with the final battle than anything else.

Good luck with him though, man.

[nyprimus4]

Have MadCatz make a fucking 360 MadCatz Blaster so we can get in on some of this light gun action. That Overkill HotD game looks so sweet but there is 0% chance I'm getting a Wii. My brother has a Wii but he leaves for college on Thursday.

edit: Mercs 2 commercial is noice.

[distgfx]

Okay before anyone talks shit about these products:

http://kotaku.com/5039035/mad-catz-making-official-street-fighter-iv-controllers

I'll have you know they are going to be damn good.

Mad Catz?! Oh god! These are going to be fucking awesome regardless.

[daroga]

Okay before anyone talks shit about these products:

http://kotaku.com/5039035/mad-catz-making-official-street-fighter-iv-controllers

I'll have you know they are going to be damn good.Would they be a good fighting stick to get for a total newbie?

[Kendal]

I like hunter for soloing. Lock does well for that too (undead lock).

Pally would be cool if you plan on getting Lich King (it unlocks the Death Knight class, which sounds awesome on paper).

Druid, Shammy, and Mage (gnome) all have awesome higher level spells. Watching mages kiting is interesting, and they can sheep (whee).

Warriors, and priests are good for group oriented play, although all classes can supposedly solo ok.

My first main in WoW was an undead rogue. Stun lock was fun and I liked being able to sneak around large camps that other classes have to grind through for certain quests.

Goddamn, but the more I see of RE5, the more I want it.

And I call dibs on ribs.

I was thinking of doing a tank. My buddy has a rogue and we could get into some cool shit together. Then again, I kinda want to make my own rogue, then we could really have some fun.

[gunm]

I think they nerf'd some of the stunlock stuff from when I first started playing, but yeah, teams of same class are pretty cool. A couple of Rogues can potentially do a shitload of damage in a relatively short period of time.

Just like a couple weeks ago, me and my co-workers were messing around with teams of just Mages and it was a blast just running into a crowd of mobs and AoE'ing them.

[nyprimus4]

I've seen this ad like 3 times already...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcJyCdbC08c

[gunm]

I just put a pre-order down for that game today.

[pete5883]

I just don't get how people who liked the game off the demo and plan to buy it off of that can bash people who didn't like the demo and don't plan to buy it because of that.
What's worse? that or this:

Too Human is a failure and you are too if you buy it

lol

I came to CAG because I was tired of reading Too Human bitchfests on Kotaku and Joystiq. I guess I came to the wrong place.

[DarthPuma]

Ninja Gaiden 2 worth 25 bones if I haven't played the first?

[gunm]

Yeah, I think NG2 is worth $25 bones.

I don't think you need to play the other games as this one is somewhat more friendly to n00bs.

[distgfx]

Ninja Gaiden 2 worth 25 bones if I haven't played the first?

Oh god yes.

[nyprimus4]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38518.html

Screw consoles once this comes out. Should come out for Mac too, and it will have really low system requirements so Macbooks should be good to go.

[RelentlessRolento]

so apparently someone snuck into the Leipzeg (cant spell it) Sony press rehersal... seems like a new singstar is going to be announced alongside first gameplay footage of Heavy Rain... just a heads up.

I expect to get more out of the Lepzeig thing than E3 to be honest... i'm guessing it starts tomorrow?

also, time to be happy! I finished the last piece for Daroga! all that is needed is a revision and once that gets finalized, you guys very soon will be able to see all the stuff I've worked on for off and on in the past few months. >_<

[jer7583]

What's worse? that or this:



I came to CAG because I was tired of reading Too Human bitchfests on Kotaku and Joystiq. I guess I came to the wrong place.

Some people just don't understand when something is said in jest. I thought the "lol" gave it away. Don't take things so seriously, you'll have a better time.

I was real close to buying a saturn today. I decided against it since it's tough to find games offline and ebay is a bitch.

[DarthPuma]

Wow, my earache is so bad that I can't even fully shut my jaw.

You know what pisses me off about Bionic Commando? I don't have an HD TV so it looks like shit and I can't see the bullets well on the Contra segments.

[daroga]

Ninja Gaiden 2 worth 25 bones if I haven't played the first?Very much so. It's not quite as all-around polished as the first game, but I the action is more satisfying and the pacing is better than the original.

That beings said, Black and/or Sigma is a worthy pickup as well.

[Azumangaman]

Should I get Season 1 of Battlestar Galactica Season 1 HDDVD for under $25 (new/sealed). Is it a good series and do you need to have seen other shows to get it?

[guinaevere]

Good evening Gentlemen and Blue. Thanks for posting stuff I had to delete and hand out infractions for. Arguments are fine, but knock off the namecalling and any mean-spirited insults.

Anyone who's played a lot of games can basically tell whether something's good or bad based on the demo. Qualify 'anyone.' I remember many a CAG being excited about Stranglehold when the demo came out. Right? Class?

hellz yah, science bitches!! e=mc squared.Preach it, Jekki.

I just sold my soul to the devil and got WoW. I shall be without a life by the weekend. Fuck!Have we not discussed the selling of souls, Kendal? #-o

No way. The Dark Side plays Horde on Kil'jaeden and raid every Sunday for Tier 4 gear even though they don't need it.Translation please?

I have to figure out what what kind of character I am going to make.The effective kind.

[whoknows]

That Force Unleashed trailer on PSN made me really want the game.

Guess I'll be getting that, Yakuza 2 and Mercs 2 next month.

[Rei no Otaku]

Qualify 'anyone.' I remember many a CAG being excited about Stranglehold when the demo came out. Right? Class?

And it was a good game. What was the problem there?

[distgfx]

And it was a good game. What was the problem there?

Agreed, the the full game was just as good as the demo. The core gameplay remained the same, if not a little improved, and I was pleased.

[Chacrana]

We're still a ways off, but I wanna make the next GGT.

[whoknows]

We're still a ways off, but I wanna make the next GGT.

No.

[Chacrana]

Well im going to do it anyway!!!!!!!

[whoknows]

Well im going to do it anyway!!!!!!!

You'd better not.

Or else.

[distgfx]

Somebody else already called it a few pages back too. I'm going to enjoy watching this.

I need my SF3: Third Strike fix now.

[dmaul1114]

I came to CAG because I was tired of reading Too Human bitchfests on Kotaku and Joystiq. I guess I came to the wrong place.

Don't get your panties in a bunch over random internet posts. If you enjoy the game, enjoy it. If you hate it, hate it.

I like posting my opinions on games, but I honestly couldn't give a shit less about what others post about games. It's interesting to read, but I don't get annoyed or influenced in a major way by forum posts.

[distgfx]

Don't get your panties in a bunch of random internet posts. If you enjoy the game, enjoy it. If you hate it, hate it.

I like posting my opinions on games, but I honestly couldn't give a shit less about what others post about games. It's interesting to read, but I don't get annoyed or influenced in a major way by forum posts.

:applause:

[whoknows]

Don't get your panties in a bunch of random internet posts. If you enjoy the game, enjoy it. If you hate it, hate it.

I like posting my opinions on games, but I honestly couldn't give a shit less about what others post about games. It's interesting to read, but I don't get annoyed or influenced in a major way by forum posts.

Besides that, Too Human sucks. It's one of the worst games I've ever played.

[guinaevere]

And it was a good game.[-(

[whoknows]

[-(

Hater

[distgfx]

[-(

Oh shit, an opinion that differs from ours!

...but why do you not agree?

[guinaevere]

You guys really thought it was a good game?

[distgfx]

You guys really thought it was a good game?

Indeed I did, it was quite fun and I loved the destructible environments.

[Kendal]

I need my video cables in my mailbox now! I want to play Pirates on my huge ass TV. That and Stubbs the Zombie. God speed Monoprice!

[guinaevere]

Indeed I did, it was quite fun and I loved the destructible environments.
Good. There were elements that were too goofy and I couldn't get past, so the game was ruined in that regard. Bu if y'all enjoyed it, then super.


On TWEWY, when you have X hours to do something, is that ingame only? I'm level grinding, but i'm always afraid of going over the timer. And I dont know where in the menu to find the timer. so.. someone hep me.

[Kendal]

On TWEWY, when you have X hours to do something, is that ingame only? I'm level grinding, but i'm always afraid of going over the timer. And I dont know where in the menu to find the timer. so.. someone hep me.

You can grind it out. I don't think there really is a timer. Not that I found.

[Rei no Otaku]

You guys really thought it was a good game?
Most definitely. The goofy elements were exactly why I liked it. I mean he had the power to make doves appear anywhere. That's too awesome.

[Kendal]

Anyone getting SOCOM?

[gunm]

Translation please?

The Dark Side is Badass.

I might get SOCOM this iteration, but I've never been interested in the series previously.

Think I'll play more Madden tonight. But after I finally kick The Apprentice in his Schwartz with Vader in SCIV. :p

[RelentlessRolento]

... ok.

passing all the internet drama....

one FPS franchise I actually like even with the amount of hate it has for its first game (new trailer... sweet):


http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38548.html
(http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38546.html)

[gunm]

Holy cow, Microsoft needs to take everyone on Namco Tales Team out for dinner, drinks, and whatever they want.

Every day for the next three years.

http://kotaku.com/5039194/japan-is-totally-sold-out-of-xbox-360s-new-shipment-next-month

[RelentlessRolento]

I expect after one month though that stores are going to see alot of returns and sell backs... something like this happened with Blue Dragon. It's like a one hit wonder thing in japan.

[hankmecrankme]

I want more Capcom remakes like Bionic Commando Rearmed. Final Fight with the BCR treatment. . .:drool:

[gunm]

I expect after one month though that stores are going to see alot of returns and sell backs... something like this happened with Blue Dragon. It's like a one hit wonder thing in japan.

I dunno, there's more JRPGs coming out in the next several months for 360 then there are for PS3. Those players who picked up a 360 will probably keep theirs for a little while.

At least until their console RRODs. >_<

[corrosivefrost]

Indeed I did, it was quite fun and I loved the destructible environments.

I wanted to set my PS3 on fire after I tried the demo. It was like a max payne of the current generation... but without the story. Max Payne had a great story... and the way the cut scenes were done was awesome. Stranghold? Not so much. When you take away the narrative, the gameplay gets really fucking old really fucking fast.

[Chibi_Kaji]

You know what pisses me off about Bionic Commando? I don't have an HD TV so it looks like shit and I can't see the bullets well on the Contra segments.
Really? I didn't have any problem seeing the bullets at all on my TV.

[RelentlessRolento]

I want more Capcom remakes like Bionic Commando Rearmed. Final Fight with the BCR treatment. . .:drool:


fuck yeah that's what I say. I need some Cody and Rolento action in HD man!

[heavyd853]

Don't forget Guuuuy!

[corrosivefrost]

You're forgetting good ol' [Sammy] Hagar!

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: the entire cast would kick ass in HD... and poison would look like a real hermaphrodite finally.

[Chibi_Kaji]

poison would look like a real hermaphrodite finally.
No, She would just make you question you sexuality even more.

[RelentlessRolento]

No, She would just make you question you sexuality even more.


true.


note to self: why am I still up at 7:25 am? fuck man... my sleep routine is so bad right now >_< :lol:

[hankmecrankme]

You're forgetting good ol' [Sammy] Hagar!

Hell yeah. I'd be piledriving punks into pavement perfectly in pristine HD. :)

[DarthPuma]

Can I go ahead and make GGT 75?

[blueshinra]

DarthPuma: If you do, no references to catchy videogame songs in the title, please. Every time I see this thread, I get "The Edge of Soul" stuck in my head @_@

[pete5883]

Don't get your panties in a bunch over random internet posts. If you enjoy the game, enjoy it. If you hate it, hate it.

I like posting my opinions on games, but I honestly couldn't give a shit less about what others post about games. It's interesting to read, but I don't get annoyed or influenced in a major way by forum posts.
I'm less offended by the comments themselves and more offended by the volume of them. There was like 5 straight pages of "Too Human is shitty shit played by shitheads."

I was tiring of TWEWY over the weekend and thought it was feeling repetitive, but now it feels fresh and I love it again. I guess it's just a game I can't play too much in one day. I was stumped by one pig though, he was asleep when the fight started, and ran away as soon as I hit him with anything. What was the trick?

[benjamouth]

Can I go ahead and make GGT 75?

You're not about to go off prematurely are you Chief?

Not a good habit to get into :)

[botticus]

I expect after one month though that stores are going to see alot of returns and sell backs... something like this happened with Blue Dragon. It's like a one hit wonder thing in japan.
It's already happened. But MS isn't referring to used consoles when discussing stock situations. ;)

[Krymner]

Working on a GGT Archive.

The first part is up now, with GGT 1-50.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=2525

More coming soon.

EDIT: InuFaye is hosting a GGT Chat on AIM for the Sony conferance at Leipzig today. Come for the fun! Stay for the conference! Holler if you need an invite!

[dmaul1114]

I'm less offended by the comments themselves and more offended by the volume of them. There was like 5 straight pages of "Too Human is shitty shit played by shitheads."


There's going to be a ton of negativity when a game is hyped for 10 years by arguably the biggest douchebag in game development and then it finally comes out and ends up sucking.

[dmaul1114]

Sony Has Lost More on the PS3 Than it Made on PS2 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169439)

Can't say I feel bad for them after launching at $500-600 because of trying to force Blu Ray on us and all their arrogant statements about how people would work an extra job to buy one etc.

[the_punisher]

I need live feed for the GC, any news on Sony's PC yet? I need Heavy Rain details!

[ninja dog]

Sony Has Lost More on the PS3 Than it Made on PS2 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169439)

Can't say I feel bad for them after launching at $500-600 because of trying to force Blu Ray on us and all their arrogant statements about how people would work an extra job to buy one etc.



according to Dave "Still Living Off the Glory of Earthworm Jim" Perry :lol:

[benjamouth]

Sony Has Lost More on the PS3 Than it Made on PS2 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169439)

Can't say I feel bad for them after launching at $500-600 because of trying to force Blu Ray on us and all their arrogant statements about how people would work an extra job to buy one etc.

Winning the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD was what they really cared about, the 10 year life-cycle is all well and good but in 1-2 years they may have new consoles from MS or Nintendo to compete with, and I'm not sure the PS3 will be in as strong a position to sell as the PS2 was.

But they won the battle they really wanted to.

according to Dave "Still Living Off the Glory of Earthworm Jim" Perry :lol:

Don't forget "Enter the Matrix" :)
Or maybe you should :-k

[Maklershed]

<-- wants to be home playing Bionic Commando

[benjamouth]

<-- wants to be home playing Bionic Commando

Mak, I forgot to ask the other day, do you have the MST3k 20th Aniversary set pre-ordered ?

+1 post, we're getting there DarthPuma.

[dmaul1114]

Winning the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD was what they really cared about, the 10 year life-cycle is all well and good but in 1-2 years they may have new consoles from MS or Nintendo to compete with, and I'm not sure the PS3 will be in as strong a position to sell as the PS2 was.

But they won the battle they really wanted to.


It definitely paid off for Sony as a whole, despite hurting the playstation branch.

There's no chance I'll pick up a PS3 despite loving the PS2 and PS1 simply because I only have time for one console these days and the high price knocked the PS3 out of consideration when I took the next gen plunge.

Plus I'll admit their decision to focus on blu ray and drive up the costs, along with their arrogant statements, just really made me not want to give them any of my money. I don't know if I'll give the PS4 much of a chance either, both because of that, but mainly because third party exlusives are pretty much dead and I don't really care much for Sony's first party games.

[daroga]

Just got off a long burnout paradise session and it was so so so much fun. Really want to do that some GGT'ers though. (I'm looking at you nelo, daroga, link and gun)My 360 is brokified :(

It'll be back tomorrow though! And we'll play sometime! :)

[dmaul1114]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/900/900487p1.html

There's a new 360 controller coming with a better d-pad. Will look identical, just the d-pad is now 8 way rather than 4 and more responsive supposedly.

[guinaevere]

When you take away the narrative, the gameplay gets really fucking old really fucking fast.HA! see? See? I'm not completely off my noodle.

DarthPuma: If you do, no references to catchy videogame songs in the title, please. Every time I see this thread, I get "The Edge of Soul" stuck in my head @_@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6JShgDDYTw

Working on a GGT Archive.

EDIT: InuFaye is hosting a GGT Chat on AIM for the Sony conferance at Leipzig today. Come for the fun! Stay for the conference! Holler if you need an invite!Subscribed to, and thanks.

<-- wants to be home playing Bionic Commando*goes to Maks house and plays Bionic Commando*

[corrosivefrost]

dammit. I hate this jackpot keystone cheesecake. :(

[guinaevere]

We must stay game related in here, Frosty.

[Chacrana]

there's a presser to watch today? I'm interested. I'm so fucking bored.

[benjamouth]

We must stay game related in here, Frosty.

I think he's talking about Fable 2 Pub games, so it is.

[corrosivefrost]

We must stay game related in here, Frosty.

what ben said.

[guinaevere]

Whoa, is my face red. apologies. I haven't played Pub games yet, I thought he was talking about actual cheesecake.

Sorry, Frosty. I'm the village idiot. :oops:

[willardhaven]

Please stay game related Gwen.

JK

Barkley Shut Up and Jam!

[Kendal]

I made some progress on TWEWY. I hope to finish the game asap. ToV is coming next week and I will be playing WoW soon.

[Krymner]

Ok, the GGT Archive project is complete!

Here's some quick stats of the most GGT's created:

Inufaye - 11
Chacrana - 10
daroga - 9
DarkSlayer120 - 8
Rei no Otaku - 6
The Mana Knight - 5
Krymner - 4
Jesus_S_Preston - 4
JEKKI - 2
Apossum - 2
whoknows - 2
Azumangaman - 1
linkpwns - 1
MarkMan - 1
Kendal - 1
nyprimus4 - 1
SL4IN - 1
Jimbo Slice - 1
WhipSmartBanky - 1

This is without couting 1, 2, and 4, since I don't have any history of those yet.

[Kendal]

Mine should count as 2 since it was so awesome. Just sayin'.

[Chacrana]

Well I started the first one.

[Maklershed]

Is anyone else excited for Mirror's Edge?

Mak, I forgot to ask the other day, do you have the MST3k 20th Aniversary set pre-ordered ?


Yes sir.

[Krymner]

If you're claiming to be the GGT's daddy, you're gonna have to show some proof.

[KingBroly]

I started going through Bionic Commando on Hard, and holy hell, man. Holy hell. After about a billion tries, I beat level 1. Grenades should make it easier though.

[Chacrana]

If you're claiming to be the GGT's daddy, you're gonna have to show some proof.

Consider it proven:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139808

Also, see this:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146206

[kainzero]

five hundred~