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Capitalizt
09-25-2008, 08:48 AM
Wow...If she can't deal with Katie Couric, she's finished. It's so obvious Palin only memorized a few answers here. She comes off terribly, looking very inexperienced on these big issues and stumbling on almost every question. One giant sucking sound pause occurred when Couric asked for another example of McCain's position, and once Palin's great talking points were questioned, she has no answers at all...just repeats the same phrases ad nauseum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

It's all over her face. She knows she's a fraud. She knows she is in over her head. No wonder the Mccain camp wants to prevent a prolonged debate with Biden...and it's no wonder he "temporarily suspended" his campaign rather than letting her run it in his place. She needs more coaching and he doesn't trust her to make more media appearances or run anything on a national level. His little gimmick is wearing thin.

*edit* This part of the interview is even worse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

Holy run-on sentences batman! She makes Bush look good in terms of grammar.

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 09:21 AM
Wow...If she can't deal with Katie Couric, she's finished. It's so obvious Palin only memorized a few answers here. She comes off terribly, looking very inexperienced on these big issues and stumbling on almost every question. One giant sucking sound pause occurred when Couric asked for another example of McCain's position, and once Palin's great talking points are questioned, she has no answers at all...just repeats the same phrases ad nauseum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

It's all over her face. She knows she's a fraud. She knows she is in over her head. No wonder the Mccain camp wants to prevent a prolonged debate with Biden...and it's no wonder he "temporarily suspended" his campaign rather than letting her run it in his place. She needs more coaching and he doesn't trust her to make more media appearances or run anything on a national level. His little gimmick is wearing thin.

I have to say.......it wasnt as bad as I was expecting. Dont get me wrong she still came across as a dumb bitch given prepared answers but not as badly as I would have expected. She actually did well enough that even if she didnt fool us she probaly fooled the ignorant masses.

Soodmeg
09-25-2008, 09:26 AM
I heard this on the radio.

Is it safe to say that the hott newness of her have completely worn off? I guess when people are loosing their jobs,homes and very lively hood they dont have time to get lost in the eyes of the hott VP.

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 09:35 AM
I heard this on the radio.

Is it safe to say that the hott newness of her have completely worn off? I guess when people are loosing their jobs,homes and very lively hood they dont have time to get lost in the eyes of the hott VP.

Well she is falling in the polls but not horribly. Most recent polls I saw were 52% favorable vs 58% before. So not that huge of a difference. I think the ignorance of the American people will probally carry her straight through the general.

Dr Mario Kart
09-25-2008, 09:43 AM
You might be thinking of this from the wrong angle Magus. She might be popular BECAUSE she is stupid. She really connects with the people. One of them. Like Bush.

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 09:46 AM
You might be thinking of this from the wrong angle Magus. She might be popular BECAUSE she is stupid. She really connects with the people. One of them. Like Bush.

True, but I dont think that people generally believe people like Bush or Palin are stupid or ignorant. Most Americans dont think they are despite the fact that they read 1 book every 3 years and dont touch a newspaper unless its for the funnies or sports.

My guess is the common man looks at people like Bush/Palin and doesnt see a retard they see the common man and since they think they are average to above average intelligence they see the same in Palin/Bush.

trq
09-25-2008, 01:43 PM
You might be thinking of this from the wrong angle Magus. She might be popular BECAUSE she is stupid. She really connects with the people. One of them. Like Bush.

That's my money. Utter failure in the debates and total inability to coherently discuss policy outside of sound bites is exactly what a lot of people are looking for. You know: "they're not know it all, educated, elite liberals."

mykevermin
09-25-2008, 01:53 PM
She stumbles over the same verbatim answer about Davis: "my understanding is that he recused himself from the dealings..."

Wow. No fuckin' WONDER she's being held from the press. She can't handle Katie Fuckin' Couric?

She's dead. She's got a dance recital in front of the entire country next week and hasn't been practicing.

Vegas odds (kidding) are 3-1 against the debate happening.

EDIT: Yow. Never in my life would I have guessed someone running for political office could beat Dan Quayle for the "vapid" throne. But not only does she win, she makes him look comparatively unqualified for it!

bubbafett4hire
09-25-2008, 01:56 PM
it's sad but stupidity runs deep in the Republican party ...Dan Quayle... need i say more

Dead of Knight
09-25-2008, 01:59 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/loudtalker/Kouric.jpg
Not that Biden is a political saint either, but come on...

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 02:12 PM
She stumbles over the same verbatim answer about Davis: "my understanding is that he recused himself from the dealings..."

Wow. No fuckin' WONDER she's being held from the press. She can't handle Katie Fuckin' Couric?

She's dead. She's got a dance recital in front of the entire country next week and hasn't been practicing.

Vegas odds (kidding) are 3-1 against the debate happening.

EDIT: Yow. Never in my life would I have guessed someone running for political office could beat Dan Quayle for the "vapid" throne. But not only does she win, she makes him look comparatively unqualified for it!

O I disagree she has been practicing like crazy. You can see it in her answers. I mean she says the same few lines that she has obviously been trained to say over and over. The problem is that it seems the McCain camp didnt realize just how stupid this woman is. As has been said the common man is a moron....so when you pick one to be your running mate you have to accept they can only remember so many tricks. Im just waiting for an interviewer to say the wrong key word and have Palin respond by barking like a dog.

mykevermin
09-25-2008, 03:54 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/loudtalker/Kouric.jpg
Not that Biden is a political saint either, but come on...

Oh, meh. A snippet in time.

That said, there does appear to be a visage of competition for "who gets to be the first person to expose Sarah Palin?"

That's part of the reaction to her vow of silence, methinks. People want, as egotistic journalists, to make their name by exposing her. So perhaps Couric, who has credibility issues for whatever reason (tits), thought that she could establish herself at Palin's expense.

Now, the thing is, taking down Palin intellectually seems to be as difficult a prospect, on the surface, as dropkicking an infant. But her protectionism has made her a particularly elusive infant.

Koggit
09-25-2008, 04:03 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n

hahahahahahahaha oh wow

hahahahahahahahhahahahahahah

man... she keeps pwning herself. hard.

She could've changed the meaning of what she said like McCain does all the time -- she could've just said that the comment was meant to underscore her understanding of the importance of solid foreign relations, not that it gives her foreign policy experience... but no, she dug her hole much deeper when given the chance to fill it in. God damn she's dumb. Given her credentials, though, that's not very surprising.

SpazX
09-25-2008, 04:38 PM
Holy shit I think she's dumber than Katie Couric.

Chase
09-25-2008, 04:49 PM
I can hardly wait for the debates. It will be quite comical.

thrustbucket
09-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Eh, I know I'll take flak for this, but just to play devils advocate...

It may not be that she's entirely stupid, a lot of it comes off as just really scared. I think she is in over her head. I think she feels the weight of millions of expectations on her. I think she's afraid to say what she really wants and is afraid of saying something to piss off McCain, etc.

In other words, I don't know that she's just stupid. I think she's intimidated, scared, and inexperienced. But if you had her over at a backyard bbq and got her in a discussion, she'd probably be a lot more intelligent in her answers (at least as intelligent as most of us here in our discussions).

Koggit
09-25-2008, 05:12 PM
In other words, I don't know that she's just stupid. I think she's intimidated, scared, and inexperienced.

You're definitely right -- she's not just stupid, she does have other problems.

(1) She's dumb. If she's too stupid to handle an interview, she's too stupid to handle vice presidential responsibilities.

(2) She's intimidated, scared and inexperienced. If she can't even handle running for vice president, how is she going to handle the job?

SpazX
09-25-2008, 05:21 PM
I agree she definitely seems scared and in over her head. I still don't think that she's really too smart or informed about the kinds of things that she should be as a vice presidential nominee.

The foreign policy thing, however, is inexcusable. I don't see why they keep bullshitting on that. Being in Alaska doesn't give you foreign policy experience, the end.

I just really hope that they don't win. It would be terrible for women to have the first female vice president be so incapable (and along the same lines I hope Obama doesn't totally fuck up and that shit doesn't happens that makes his administration look terrible).

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 05:21 PM
Eh, I know I'll take flak for this, but just to play devils advocate...

It may not be that she's entirely stupid, a lot of it comes off as just really scared. I think she is in over her head. I think she feels the weight of millions of expectations on her. I think she's afraid to say what she really wants and is afraid of saying something to piss off McCain, etc.

In other words, I don't know that she's just stupid. I think she's intimidated, scared, and inexperienced. But if you had her over at a backyard bbq and got her in a discussion, she'd probably be a lot more intelligent in her answers (at least as intelligent as most of us here in our discussions).

Well 2 things. First I don't think she is any worse off then the average American......but thats the thing! Even if the average American is of average intelligence they dont read, study and would be like a deer in headlights in an interview just like her. Palin is the average American, she is ignorant of many many things yet now is expected to give opinions on those things. So yes she comes off stupid half because she is ignorant and half because she is scared shitless.

And I take offense to you saying she is as smart as anyone here......I consider myself of average intelligence and probably am not that much smarter then her if at all.....however I read and do research and try to be open minded and looking at this board many others here do too. Thats more then she can say.

Also do you not see an inherent problem with arguing that she is as good as the CAG politics forums?

depascal22
09-25-2008, 05:22 PM
She's intimidated because she truly feels that God put her in this place and failure might lessen her in the eyes of not only her family, state, the country, but Christians across the world. This is what happens when you put an evangelical in the hot seat about real affairs. You just can't say God will take care of it and it will be OK. Bush tried that and look where we are now.

I'm no big fan of her but I won't call her stupid. She does have a college degree and she did become the governor of a state. You could say that Bush was a stupid governor but he has and had a million times the connections and money that Palin could ever dream of. On the other hand, I think she uses her gender and sexuality like a weapon. If her husband ran for mayor and governor, I don't think he would be elected even though he seems a little more with it and real.

paddlefoot
09-25-2008, 05:32 PM
it's sad but stupidity runs deep in the Republican party ...Dan Quayle... need i say more

Yes, the Republican Party (as a whole) is so stupid that they figured out how to get George W. Bush elected......... Twice

depascal22
09-25-2008, 05:40 PM
Yes, the Republican Party (as a whole) is so stupid that they figured out how to get George W. Bush elected......... Twice

Could've been Bigfoot and he would've won. They "lost" enough votes from minority areas to ensure a Republican win. Don't forget the harassment of black people as soon as they came within a block of the polling station. There were guys telling people that they would be arrested on the spot if they had unpaid bills or child support. Hell, Florida just ran a primary and somehow they ended up with more votes than voters...

ProfWho
09-25-2008, 05:41 PM
That interview further proves that McCain does not have the judgment to be president. If he had the judgment Palin would not be doing that interview. Someone who is better than the average American would.

nasum
09-25-2008, 05:45 PM
I honestly feel sorry for the poor gal. She's simply not ready for everything that is going to happen.

depascal22
09-25-2008, 05:48 PM
I honestly feel sorry for the poor gal. She's simply not ready for everything that is going to happen.

Now they have you. All they have to do is reel you in. She'll keep playing the harried working mom until there's more and more backlash against sort of criticism.

Don't feel sorry for her. She said yes. She could've been honest and said she wasn't ready. She could've looked at the six month old kid with Down's and decided that maybe he needed a mom that was around more than a couple minutes out of the day. Maybe she could've seen that she was about to become a grandmother and cut back on it but she's full speed ahead on her quest for God's truth. I feel sorry for her family.

camoor
09-25-2008, 05:51 PM
I honestly feel sorry for the poor gal. She's simply not ready for everything that is going to happen.

What a nation of candy-asses.

Capitalizt
09-25-2008, 05:53 PM
The rest of the interview is even worse.. She reminds me so much of a beauty contestant struggling to find a clever sounding answer. ughhh..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

dmaul1114
09-25-2008, 05:58 PM
I don't think Palin's stupid, I just think she's too inexperienced with media to be on the national stage. She's only dealt with media in one of the least populated states in the country, and now she's under one of the biggest media spotlights in the world.

And obviously, if you can't handle that then you can't handle the pressure of being VP, much less president if something happened to McCain. But I don't think it's a reflection of her intelligence. Just being nervous, scared, etc. and unsure of what to say to fit the party/campaign line.

mykevermin
09-25-2008, 06:14 PM
Stupid? Nah.

Incompetent to serve as vice president, irrespective of her running mate's age? Always.

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 06:25 PM
The rest of the interview is even worse.. She reminds me so much of a beauty contestant struggling to find a clever sounding answer. ughhh..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

Katie: Follow up question. Do you realize how big of a moron you sound by saying shit like this?

It would have solved her credibility problem in a heart beat.

Koggit
09-25-2008, 06:30 PM
41s to 45s are probably the least damaging of that video but after watching it over and over I can't help but LOL.

they're. in. the. state. that. I. am. the. executive. of.

Capitalizt
09-25-2008, 06:36 PM
Surprise Surprise! Mccain wants to duck out of the Vice-Presidential debates too..

McCain Camp: Let's Push Back Biden-Palin Match-Up, September 24, 2008 7:04 PM ABC News' Teddy Davis and Rigel Anderson Report: The McCain campaign told ABC News on Wednesday that John McCain wants to postpone Friday's presidential debate until Thursday, Oct. 2.

The Arizona senator would like the vice presidential debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden, which is currently scheduled to take place on Thursday, Oct. 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, to be scheduled for a later unspecified date.

The details about what McCain is seeking, which were provided by a McCain aide who spoke on the condition of anonymity, came a few hours after the Republican presidential candidate announced that he was suspending campaigning so he could return to Washington, D.C., to try to forge a consensus on a financial bailout package.

McCain's public call for a debate delay was rebuffed by Barack Obama who joined fellow Democrats in arguing that a president needs to be able to multi-task.

"I believe that we should continue to have the debate," Obama said in Clearwater Florida. "It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess."http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/mccain-camp-let.html

And remember, Remember, Mccain wanted to delay HIS debate to Thursday October 2nd, which *just happens* to be the date Palin is scheduled to debate Biden. Now that he is trying to push back hers as well, it seems obvious to me that this was the plan from the beginning and the whole "going back to Washington" thing was a distraction. He is desperate to give her more time to be coached. __________________

thrustbucket
09-25-2008, 08:48 PM
I don't think Palin's stupid, I just think she's too inexperienced with media to be on the national stage. She's only dealt with media in one of the least populated states in the country, and now she's under one of the biggest media spotlights in the world.

And obviously, if you can't handle that then you can't handle the pressure of being VP, much less president if something happened to McCain. But I don't think it's a reflection of her intelligence. Just being nervous, scared, etc. and unsure of what to say to fit the party/campaign line.

Right. This is pretty much exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post.

This just goes to show that her being chosen was indeed a hail mary. Sometimes hail mary's work, but usually they don't.

There is always the factor/chance of people watching her and putting themselves in her shoes; having thoughts like "Wow she's nervous, I would be too. Look at how the nation has her under a microscope"..... "She's just an average person like me, with a similar background, not one of these elites like every other politician we've had, she seems really sweet as she tries to not embarrass the evil Republicans and struggles to say the right thing like I probably would - maybe it's time we had someone like myself running things"...... etc etc.

Of course, it all depends on how many in America have thoughts like that while watching this stuff. I really have no idea, but it will be interesting to see.

Koggit
09-25-2008, 09:02 PM
She doesn't seem sweet at all, she seems like a venomous bitch, in all three interviews (even to Hannity). McCain and Biden are both warm and friendly, Obama is usually like a business person... Palin has the least charismatic temperament of the four. If they wanted to charm voters into making a bad decision they should've gone with Huckabee.

bmulligan
09-25-2008, 09:36 PM
She doesn't seem sweet at all, she seems like a venomous bitch, in all three interviews (even to Hannity). McCain and Biden are both warm and friendly, Obama is usually like a business person... Palin has the least charismatic temperament of the four. If they wanted to charm voters into making a bad decision they should've gone with Huckabee.

Biden is warm and friendly? What planet are you from?

And considering how many times a day Joe Biden can put his foot in his mouth, I'd say he and Palin were on about equal footing in the incompetent department. Biden's just been a senator for so long that he knows how to make a performance more ingenuous.

MSI Magus
09-25-2008, 09:46 PM
She doesn't seem sweet at all, she seems like a venomous bitch, in all three interviews (even to Hannity). McCain and Biden are both warm and friendly, Obama is usually like a business person... Palin has the least charismatic temperament of the four. If they wanted to charm voters into making a bad decision they should've gone with Huckabee.

Exactly I dont see her as warm or sweet or normal at all. Her family is far freaking from it. It would be one thing if this was really just some soccer mom but we are talking about someone with a demeanor, attitude and history of craving power and abusing it.....

Sporadic
09-25-2008, 09:59 PM
Biden is warm and friendly? What planet are you from?

Well, compare the two Katie Couric interviews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBl7jrD1GzU

Biden when he isn't talking comes off as warm and friendly but when it comes time to talk, all of that melts away.

thrustbucket
09-25-2008, 11:08 PM
but we are talking about someone with a demeanor, attitude and history of craving power and abusing it.....

I'd apply that description to pretty much all Politicians. It's a pre-req for a life in politics, apparently.

Which leads to another sad reality: The people we really should have leading us or running our country would never lower themselves to the spit and bile required to campaign and politic.

The most wise and qualified to lead, usually don't crave power or control enough to want to.

I don't think there is an answer to that, it's just a symptom of democracy.

Koggit
09-25-2008, 11:11 PM
I'd apply that description to pretty much all Politicians.

Then you're a cynic. That's far from the case.

JolietJake
09-25-2008, 11:12 PM
Eh, I know I'll take flak for this, but just to play devils advocate...

It may not be that she's entirely stupid, a lot of it comes off as just really scared. I think she is in over her head. I think she feels the weight of millions of expectations on her. I think she's afraid to say what she really wants and is afraid of saying something to piss off McCain, etc.

In other words, I don't know that she's just stupid. I think she's intimidated, scared, and inexperienced. But if you had her over at a backyard bbq and got her in a discussion, she'd probably be a lot more intelligent in her answers (at least as intelligent as most of us here in our discussions).
If all of that is true, then she was stupid for accepting the offer to be McCain's running mate, that's a stupid decision in my book.

McCain is also stupid himself for selecting her.

62t
09-26-2008, 01:07 AM
is it too late for Palin to step down citing health problems and McCain to bring in Mitt Romney?

SpeedyG
09-26-2008, 03:33 AM
Yes because Romney is a much better choice...

thrustbucket
09-26-2008, 06:17 AM
Actually it would be better all around if McCain cited health problems, stepped down, and Romney took the nomination.

MSI Magus
09-26-2008, 09:07 AM
Actually it would be better all around if McCain cited health problems, stepped down, and Romney took the nomination.

Ya, there isnt enough time for people to find out that Romney is a flip flopping sleeze ball that made his money raping the common man. If it was Romney Palin id be tempted to go G Harvey.

ProfWho
09-26-2008, 10:44 AM
Thought I might share this here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ProfGTA/putinrearshishead.jpg

ananag112
09-26-2008, 12:10 PM
http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2008/09/palin-iran-and.html

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met. That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger …

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: … is naïve for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of diplomacy.

Actually. That's exactly Henry Kissinger's position. And Couric even went ahead and confirmed it with Kissinger after the interview. Here is what Kissinger said just last week at a forum of five secretaries of state.

“I’m in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one – (unintelligible) – of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East – of a stable Middle East and our notion of nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it."

paddlefoot
09-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Exactly I dont see her as warm or sweet or normal at all. Her family is far freaking from it. It would be one thing if this was really just some soccer mom but we are talking about someone with a demeanor, attitude and history of craving power and abusing it.....

I know thrust already said something, but you really need to be stop. The amount of arrogance and hypocrisy of every politican in Washington is extremely high. I don't know if you can have a long-term career in federal politics without being a narcissist.

MSI Magus
09-26-2008, 01:36 PM
I know thrust already said something, but you really need to be stop. The amount of arrogance and hypocrisy of every politican in Washington is extremely high. I don't know if you can have a long-term career in federal politics without being a narcissist.

Agreed but there are different level of hypocrisy and narcissism. There are people like Obama, McCain and Biden that I think geniounly do have some good will in them and arnt just out to fuck people over or force their own views on people. Then you have the Romney, Guilllani, Palins Cheney and Bushes that either think they were sent by God and one of a kind or have some fucked up agenda that their pushing to either fatten their own pockets, start a war or get religion in every facet of life.

Xevious
09-26-2008, 03:54 PM
This is what Matt Damon was talking about:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

It is safe to watch at work.

SpazX
09-26-2008, 04:16 PM
This is what Matt Damon was talking about:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

It is safe to watch at work.

Hahahaha, holy shit, that's hilariously depressing.

Obviously she has had more responsibilities and is capable of more than that, be jesus, it seems that there are voters who actually do see her being a "hockey mom" as something actually relevant, as she has used it in rhetoric.

Snake2715
09-26-2008, 04:23 PM
Thought I might share this here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ProfGTA/putinrearshishead.jpg

Classic.

Friend of Sonic
09-26-2008, 04:41 PM
This is what Matt Damon was talking about:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

It is safe to watch at work.

That's amazing. I would have taken out all of the record stop sound effects. But otherwise spot on.

mykevermin
09-26-2008, 04:45 PM
That's quite possibly the funniest thing this election cycle.

dmaul1114
09-26-2008, 04:47 PM
Now you even have conservatives who supported her initially calling for her to drop out.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/

Capitalizt
09-27-2008, 09:43 AM
I lol'd

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2871279135_293db22691_o.jpg

MSI Magus
09-27-2008, 10:44 AM
I lol'd

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2871279135_293db22691_o.jpg

Hehe thats fucking hilarious! Got to send that out to a few people.

thrustbucket
09-27-2008, 10:47 AM
So wait, Moscow is the only part of Russia that counts?

Whoever forwarded that to me, I'd think was an imbecile.

MSI Magus
09-27-2008, 11:59 AM
So wait, Moscow is the only part of Russia that counts?

Whoever forwarded that to me, I'd think was an imbecile.

1. You have to take into consideration that Moscow is not just the political center of Russia but also where most Russians live.

2. The whole part of Russia that is close to Alaska is just barren iceland essentially. I saw a TV spot where a reporter had went over to ask Russia what they thought about Palin and they all were just laughing hilariously. Not only did they think it was stupid to say that just because you border a nation you have experience with it, but they were also laughing and saying things like "the only thing on the Eastern half of Russia near Alaska is polar bears".

Russia is closer to Alaska then most of those other places.......but its the insignificant part thats just dead.

homeland
09-27-2008, 12:17 PM
http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/wdc/downloads/maps/population/GPWv3_Population_Density_Grids/Population_Density_2000_Russia.jpg

It looks like your right....

camoor
09-27-2008, 01:06 PM
Thought I might share this here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/ProfGTA/putinrearshishead.jpg

If I owned the IP to C&C:Red Alert I'd make a new game with this cover right now.

The timing is perfect - imagine a modern remake featuring a barbie-doll president vs an evil son-of-Yuri.

You could have little Jesse Ventura seals, Jason Borne spies, extra units like US Polar Bears vs USSR Grizzlies

Fighting over oil resources, tech upgrades like wind power, clean coal

The level titles also write themselves:
"You Forgot Poland"
"Georgia On My Mind"...

thrustbucket
09-27-2008, 10:59 PM
1. You have to take into consideration that Moscow is not just the political center of Russia but also where most Russians live.

2. The whole part of Russia that is close to Alaska is just barren iceland essentially. I saw a TV spot where a reporter had went over to ask Russia what they thought about Palin and they all were just laughing hilariously. Not only did they think it was stupid to say that just because you border a nation you have experience with it, but they were also laughing and saying things like "the only thing on the Eastern half of Russia near Alaska is polar bears".

Russia is closer to Alaska then most of those other places.......but its the insignificant part thats just dead.

Oh I get it what the joke is going for, but it's assanine. If we had fighter jets enter the airspace of that "barren wasteland" without announcement it would put both nations at defcon 4 within minutes. Same goes for our "barren wastelands". Population density doesn't affect border importance, that's why the joke isn't funny.

This (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http:%2F%2Fbbs.keyhole.com%2Fubb%2Fdownload .php%3FNumber%3D441056&t=k&om=1&ie=UTF8&ll=55.37911,76.640625&spn=118.141215,283.007813&z=2)is probably more significant map, where national security is concerned.

But I'm also not defending Palin's lame comments. Just saying the joke is stupid.

SpazX
09-28-2008, 03:31 AM
Oh I get it what the joke is going for, but it's assanine. If we had fighter jets enter the airspace of that "barren wasteland" without announcement it would put both nations at defcon 4 within minutes. Same goes for our "barren wastelands". Population density doesn't affect border importance, that's why the joke isn't funny.

This (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http:%2F%2Fbbs.keyhole.com%2Fubb%2Fdownload .php%3FNumber%3D441056&t=k&om=1&ie=UTF8&ll=55.37911,76.640625&spn=118.141215,283.007813&z=2)is probably more significant map, where national security is concerned.

But I'm also not defending Palin's lame comments. Just saying the joke is stupid.

Well that first map was from the earlier interview where she didn't mention jets in Alaskan airspace she just mentioned the closeness of Russia to Alaska. So the joke is still funny.

The proximity doesn't give her foreign relations experience, would be the real point anyway, regardless of whether or not there's an airbase near Alaska. What she said was true (probably), that Alaska would have the highest threat of having their airspace violated by Russian planes, but what difference does that make? It seems her point was that she would be the most scared of Russia, and therefore the most prepared to deal with them.

thrustbucket
09-28-2008, 03:34 AM
Oh I see. Well then. Had Palin said "Russians" instead of "Russia", then the joke would have been funny to someone that didn't already have a seething livid ultra-hate for her.

SpazX
09-28-2008, 03:45 AM
Oh I see. Well then. Had Palin said "Russians" instead of "Russia", then the joke would have been funny to someone that didn't already have a seething livid ultra-hate for her.

You don't need to have any hate for her. Mentioning the proximity of Alaska to Russia as if it means anything about her qualifications for VP is stupid. I don't understand why they ever thought it was a good idea to act as if it was somehow relevant.

If she has, at whatever point in her tenure as governor, had contact with any high-level Russian officials then that's what's important, not how close the state is. I wouldn't say that Jeb Bush (or whoever is governor of Florida now, I don't care), as governor of Florida, has foreign relations experience because of the state's proximity to Cuba. If he talked with officials or something, good, that's experience, but to say that the closeness is what's relevant is just fucking stupid.

Koggit
09-28-2008, 04:21 AM
Thrust, you've said assanine (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4897503&postcount=66) like four times now... it's asinine.

Double entendre!

Capitalizt
09-28-2008, 09:04 PM
OMG, I found part 4 of the Palin interview! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFpAPyq4fA

thrustbucket
09-28-2008, 09:05 PM
Well damn me! My spell checker in google chrome doesn't really work. Besides, maybe I think it's important to leave the ASS in all it's glory for that word. ;)

Capitalizt
09-29-2008, 09:48 PM
pic of the day:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2zpmn10.jpg

mykevermin
09-29-2008, 09:57 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*whew*

freakyzeeky
09-29-2008, 11:26 PM
Ohh look! It's the latest New Yorker cover where they poke fun at Sarah Palin's claim that she has foreign policy experience because of how close Alaska is to Russia. :D


http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/41121/original.jpg

62t
09-29-2008, 11:50 PM
OMG, I found part 4 of the Palin interview! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFpAPyq4fA

working link here

http://thestarceleb.com/2008/09/29/tina-fey-on-snl-as-sarah-palin-interviewed-by-katie-couric-full-version/

Capitalizt
09-30-2008, 05:29 AM
http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/palin-facebook-2.jpg

SpazX
09-30-2008, 08:54 AM
Oh internet, how did you get so awesome?

lilboo
09-30-2008, 10:12 AM
:rofl: :rofl:
"Twix & Spatula"

MSI Magus
09-30-2008, 10:55 AM
:rofl: :rofl:
"Twix & Spatula"

Funny thing is that while Spatula is over the top I could fucking see them picking twix.

MSI Magus
09-30-2008, 11:12 AM
Fareed Zakaria who is IMO one of the most brilliant political minds of our age - "The problem isn't that she doesn't have an answer the problem is that she doesn't even understand the question."

It is funny that she is so stupid and such a duck out of water.....that she can only stare at people with Chris Tucker running around in her head thinking I cant understand the words that are coming out of your mouth.

Koggit
09-30-2008, 12:06 PM
pic of the day:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2zpmn10.jpg

Haha.. totally

Palin: http://www.sharenow.com/base/content/38042/

Miss Teen USA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

freakyzeeky
09-30-2008, 12:16 PM
http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/palin-facebook-2.jpg

:lol:

Dead of Knight
09-30-2008, 01:15 PM
You really can't make this shit up:
http://media.www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/09/30/Campus/Mccain.Visits.Columbus-3458765.shtml


Palin was just as quick to throw a jab at Sen. Joe Biden. "I do look forward to Thursday night in debating Sen. Biden," she said. "I've never met him, but I've been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in like, second grade."
:wall:

lilboo
09-30-2008, 01:37 PM
:rofl: So wait, was she calling HIM old ???

depascal22
09-30-2008, 01:39 PM
It's politics. Completely forget any weakness that your own party has and call the other one out on it. But do it in a cute hockey mom pitbull kind of way. And put like in the sentence like because most Americans under the age of like 35 can't make a sentence without like the word like, you know.

lilboo
09-30-2008, 01:41 PM
<--- Can't, :lol:

Dead of Knight
09-30-2008, 02:09 PM
Again, you can't make this shit up:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/30/mccain-palin-the-next-clinton-or-reagan/

Sarah Palin may just be the next Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton — two previous governors underestimated by the national media who went on to win the White House, John McCain said Monday.

Appearing alongside Palin in an interview on CBS, McCain reiterated his confidence in the Alaska governor, even as several conservatives suggested she is unqualified for the No. 2 spot on a national ticket.

"This is not the first time that I've seen a governor being questioned by some quote, 'expert,' " McCain told CBS' Katie Couric as Palin looked on. "I remember that Ronald Reagan was a 'cowboy.' President Clinton was a governor of a very small state that had 'no experience' either. I remember how easy it was going to be for Bush I to defeat him.

"But the point is I've seen underestimation before," McCain added. "I'm very proud of the excitement that Gov. Palin has ignited with our party and around this country. It is a level of excitement and enthusiasm, frankly, that I haven't seen before. And I'd like to attribute it to me. But the fact is that she has done incredible job. And I'm so proud of the work that she's doing."

The comments come after Palin's widely panned interview with Couric last week during which the Republican VP candidate struggled through several answers on her foreign policy credentials and the proposed economic bailout. The comments instantly became fodder for late-night comedians and prompted criticism from several conservative corners that Palin appeared to be in over her head. But a counter-chorus has also emerged, as supporters have publicly urged the campaign not to keep Palin so isolated from the media and to allow her unfiltered audience interaction.

“Holding Sarah Palin to just three interviews and microscopically focusing on each interview I think has been a mistake,” former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney told MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" on Monday. “I think they'd be a lot wiser to let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin. Let her talk to the media, let her talk to people."

But also in the interview with Couric on Monday, McCain decried "gotcha" journalism as he sought to downplay Palin's recent comments that suggested she would support crossing into Pakistan from the Afghanistan to root out terrorists.

"I understand this day and age of "gotcha" journalism, was that a pizza place?" McCain said regarding where Palin made the comments. "In a conversation with someone who you didn't hear … the question very well, you don't know the context of the conversation, grab a phrase. Gov. Palin and I agree that you don't announce that you're going to attack another country."

The comments came during Palin's visit to a cheesesteak restaurant in Philadelphia on Saturday night, when a voter asked if she supported a cross-border attack on Pakistan

"If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should," Palin responded, in comments that contradict McCain's long-standing position of consulting with Pakistan before carrying out attacks on terrorists within its borders.

Wait, is Sarah Palin running for President, or is McCain?

depascal22
09-30-2008, 02:30 PM
We all know this is the Palin show at this point. After the debate, it looks like McCain could pull a Harrison and die a month after inauguration. We better hope it's not cold in DC in January...

thrustbucket
09-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Man I really can't decide which would be worse. A super-liberal president or 4 years of this eye rolling, already tired, internet and late night comedy hour shooting gallery of Palin.

Someone start a revolution already, plz....?

depascal22
09-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Already started. You just didn't make the list to be saved. Sorry, homey. It was you or Chris Rock and I just had to have a jester for my court.

EDIT -- Besides, what's the worse that can happen with a super liberal president? Taxes go up but you get at least basic health care? More states turn to emissions standards for cars? Abortion can't get any more legal if you're a conservative. Gun control looks good after what happened in DC this year. Obama might be a liberal but it doesn't mean we won't fight back if we get attacked.

lilboo
09-30-2008, 07:31 PM
Already started. You just didn't make the list to be saved. Sorry, homey. It was you or Chris Rock and I just had to have a jester for my court.

EDIT -- Besides, what's the worse that can happen with a super liberal president? Taxes go up but you get at least basic health care? More states turn to emissions standards for cars? Abortion can't get any more legal if you're a conservative. Gun control looks good after what happened in DC this year. Obama might be a liberal but it doesn't mean we won't fight back if we get attacked.

BUT...GAYS...MIGHT... MARRY!!

:whee:

dmaul1114
09-30-2008, 07:32 PM
And to add to one of those points, taxes only go up if you make over $200K a year.

mykevermin
09-30-2008, 07:56 PM
BUT...GAYS...MIGHT... MARRY!!

:whee:

Maybe that's the conservative plan - send the economy into the shitter and then no gays will marry because nobody can afford a "Crate & Barrel" registry.

And who gets married if there are no gifts, now?

depascal22
09-30-2008, 08:01 PM
Maybe that's the conservative plan - send the economy into the shitter and then no gays will marry because nobody can afford a "Crate & Barrel" registry.

And who gets married if there are no gifts, now?

All they need is a DJ so they can dance to Mama Mia songs all night.

On a serious note, I've known more gay people that got married for the right reasons that straight people. No shotgun weddings, marriages of convenience, or green card weddings (at least that I've seen or heard of)for them.

MSI Magus
09-30-2008, 08:15 PM
All they need is a DJ so they can dance to Mama Mia songs all night.

On a serious note, I've known more gay people that got married for the right reasons that straight people. No shotgun weddings, marriages of convenience, or green card weddings (at least that I've seen or heard of)for them.

I see your no gays and raise you most non religious people.

depascal22
09-30-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm actually for gay rights and gay marriage... I just like to poke fun at everyone.

MSI Magus
09-30-2008, 08:41 PM
I'm actually for gay rights and gay marriage... I just like to poke fun at everyone.

I get that, im just stating that I think most religious people now get married for all the wrong reasons and worse stay married for all the wrong reasons.

Dead of Knight
09-30-2008, 09:25 PM
BUT...GAYS...MIGHT... MARRY!!

:whee:

I dunno if I could support lilboo being settled down for life. ;););)

homeland
10-01-2008, 10:55 AM
This woman is like the gift that keeps on giving! Cant remember any magazines or newspaper she reads..unless you count her response of "all of 'em"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y


If Mccain is elected they better put him in that "boy in a bubble" suit because this woman just won't cut it.

mykevermin
10-01-2008, 11:16 AM
I'm not too troubled with that slip.

On one hand, it's kinda silly to think a governor doesn't keep up with news.

On the other, why couldn't she BS and say she reads the Anchorage Whatever, the NYT, or the Washington Post (cause saying she reads the NYT would lose votes amongst the "keep it stupid, conservatives" crowd)?

I don't see this as an issue - just a verbal gaffe that people will take to the illogical extreme (that she doesn't read papers).

Capitalizt
10-01-2008, 11:18 AM
She also couldn't name a single supreme court case besides Roe V Wade. That part of the interview should be airing soon.

Honestly..most people have heard of Brown v Board of Education..
Marbury vs Madison..
Bush v Gore?

hello Ms Palin?

homeland
10-01-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm not too troubled with that slip.

On one hand, it's kinda silly to think a governor doesn't keep up with news.

On the other, why couldn't she BS and say she reads the Anchorage Whatever, the NYT, or the Washington Post (cause saying she reads the NYT would lose votes amongst the "keep it stupid, conservatives" crowd)?

I don't see this as an issue - just a verbal gaffe that people will take to the illogical extreme (that she doesn't read papers).

I understand what your saying... but the fact she couldn't B.S is a bit scary. She's a politician.. she should know how to B.S.

camoor
10-01-2008, 11:29 AM
All they need is a DJ so they can dance to Mama Mia songs all night.

On a serious note, I've known more gay people that got married for the right reasons that straight people. No shotgun weddings, marriages of convenience, or green card weddings (at least that I've seen or heard of)for them.

Ummm - the fact that there are no shotgun weddings is hardly surprising...

depascal22
10-01-2008, 12:14 PM
Ummm - the fact that there are no shotgun weddings is hardly surprising...

You're not getting my point. Many people get married for the sole reason that the girl is pregnant. Neither is ready to get married but are forced because of family or society. This doesn't happen in the gay community. My point is that gays usually get married for the right reasons. Because there's only so many things gays can do as a married couple in this country, why would anyone want to go through with it unless they're truly in love? You just can't say the same thing about straight marriage.

soonersfan60
10-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I understand what your saying... but the fact she couldn't B.S is a bit scary. She's a politician.. she should know how to B.S.

That's why "average folks" like her... no "politician B.S."

MSI Magus
10-01-2008, 12:43 PM
I'm not too troubled with that slip.

On one hand, it's kinda silly to think a governor doesn't keep up with news.

On the other, why couldn't she BS and say she reads the Anchorage Whatever, the NYT, or the Washington Post (cause saying she reads the NYT would lose votes amongst the "keep it stupid, conservatives" crowd)?

I don't see this as an issue - just a verbal gaffe that people will take to the illogical extreme (that she doesn't read papers).

Like 3% of our nation reads newspapers now(discounting sports/funnies). Why should she be any different?

Koggit
10-01-2008, 12:47 PM
That's why "average folks" like her... no "politician B.S."

Are you kidding?!

Palin exudes an astounding amount of politician BS, it's just really really bad BS.

Exhibit A: http://i36.tinypic.com/2zpmn10.jpg

"what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the -- oh, it's got to be all about job creation too", etc

She is absolutely nothing but fluff. All she does is recite talking points. That answer was almost a caricature of politician BS in that what she said made no sense, it was merely a string of talking points. What she said lacked substance entirely and was just buzz words that her campaign manager told her Americans would respond well to.

"But what about the economy, Sarah?"

"Healthcare reform shoring up our economy helping you in the job sector with job reform when we shore up the economy healthcare is really going to help you."

She's the epitome of politician BS -- because she's so damn bad at it it's more transparent than usual.

depascal22
10-01-2008, 12:59 PM
She was never given enough time to prepare for this. Maybe she should've taken Ted Stevens' spot in the Senate before she was tapped for this role.

thrustbucket
10-01-2008, 01:28 PM
Are you kidding?!

Palin exudes an astounding amount of politician BS, it's just really really bad BS.

Exhibit A:

"what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the -- oh, it's got to be all about job creation too", etc

She is absolutely nothing but fluff. All she does is recite talking points. That answer was almost a caricature of politician BS in that what she said made no sense, it was merely a string of talking points. What she said lacked substance entirely and was just buzz words that her campaign manager told her Americans would respond well to.

"But what about the economy, Sarah?"

"Healthcare reform shoring up our economy helping you in the job sector with job reform when we shore up the economy healthcare is really going to help you."

She's the epitome of politician BS -- because she's so damn bad at it it's more transparent than usual.

While I agree with you, I would also mention that was my biggest complaint with Obama in the debate; 90% of what he said sounded very very rehearsed, even memorized. It annoys me. Granted, he is much better at it than Palin, and if you agree with what he's saying you notice it less.

MSI Magus
10-01-2008, 01:46 PM
While I agree with you, I would also mention that was my biggest complaint with Obama in the debate; 90% of what he said sounded very very rehearsed, even memorized. It annoys me. Granted, he is much better at it than Palin, and if you agree with what he's saying you notice it less.

I could it have been rehearsed whenever he was responding to random questions and McCain. Honestly your complaint is so ass backwards when you think about the fact that McCain actually pulled line after line after line from his stump speach(I have a pen/braclet, ill make them famous, id rather win a war etc etc).

thrustbucket
10-01-2008, 01:57 PM
I could it have been rehearsed whenever he was responding to random questions and McCain. Honestly your complaint is so ass backwards when you think about the fact that McCain actually pulled line after line after line from his stump speach(I have a pen/braclet, ill make them famous, id rather win a war etc etc).

They both did it, obviously. As stated by others here, most politicians do it. Some are better at hiding it than others.

My own personal impression was that, for better or worse, more of what McCain was saying was just kind of slapped together on the fly compared to Obama, which is LESS annoying than rehearsed or memorized answers. It doesn't rally matter though, since I disagreed with the majority of both of of their answers, so I'm just talking entertainment value.

As a side, I found a clip of Palin debating (http://online.wsj.com/video/palin-november-2006-alaska-gubernatorial-debate/DEA039E7-8D0A-453E-BBA5-C32A84BB4526.html) in the Alaskan debates for Governor. I don't see anything special about it, or anything to make fun of, but I'm sure someone here will.

MSI Magus
10-01-2008, 02:00 PM
They both did it, obviously. As stated by others here, most politicians do it. Some are better at hiding it than others.

My own personal impression was that, for better or worse, more of what McCain was saying was just kind of slapped together on the fly compared to Obama, which is LESS annoying than rehearsed or memorized answers. It doesn't rally matter though, since I disagreed with the majority of both of of their answers, so I'm just talking entertainment value.

As a side, I found a clip of Palin debating (http://online.wsj.com/video/palin-november-2006-alaska-gubernatorial-debate/DEA039E7-8D0A-453E-BBA5-C32A84BB4526.html) in the Alaskan debates for Governor. I don't see anything special about it, or anything to make fun of, but I'm sure someone here will.

How about some examples. I was easily able to give quite a few for McCain what were Obamas? I have said in the past Obama is too rigid and uses rehearsed lines, but this debate really was not one of those times.

thrustbucket
10-01-2008, 02:07 PM
How about some examples. I was easily able to give quite a few for McCain what were Obamas? I have said in the past Obama is too rigid and uses rehearsed lines, but this debate really was not one of those times.

I'm not going to watch it again, it was too boring. But that was the impression I took away from the whole thing. It seemed that Obama had very rigid disciplined answers. I would not be surprised if he has his whole website memorized. McCain on the other hand, seemed to have a general idea of what his positions were suppose to be, and just wanted to make stuff up the other half of the time (which isn't a good thing for his side, but it's more entertaining to watch).

Especially towards the beginning of the debate. The first 20 minutes. I recall non-answers from both of them. Just playing it safe, I guess. McCain just isn't as good as keeping his stoic stature as Obama is in throwing out talking points. I really don't think McCain prepared much for that debate at all.

soonersfan60
10-01-2008, 02:13 PM
She's the epitome of politician BS -- because she's so damn bad at it it's more transparent than usual.

People don't vote based on who is the smoothest talker. They vote for people they like and can identify with. Sure, she could be better at talking on the fly, but I think she gets a pass from lots of people precisely because she isn't seen as a "professional" politician. Most people suddenly thrust into the spotlight with that kind of pressure would react the same way, and people who are honest with themselves acknowledge that. Not saying it's a quality we should be actively seeking in a leader, but average people (i.e., non-partisan people) take that into account in their overall assessment rather than simply judging against the "standard" politician benchmark.

mykevermin
10-01-2008, 02:14 PM
Like 3% of our nation reads newspapers now(discounting sports/funnies). Why should she be any different?

Source?

Depends on the measurement. I read a bunch of papers in the morning and throughout the day online, but I don't subscribe to any papers.

MSI Magus
10-01-2008, 02:14 PM
I'm not going to watch it again, it was too boring. But that was the impression I took away from the whole thing. It seemed that Obama had very rigid disciplined answers. I would not be surprised if he has his whole website memorized. McCain on the other hand, seemed to have a general idea of what his positions were suppose to be, and just wanted to make stuff up the other half of the time (which isn't a good thing for his side, but it's more entertaining to watch).

Especially towards the beginning of the debate. The first 20 minutes. I recall non-answers from both of them. Just playing it safe, I guess. McCain just isn't as good as keeping his stoic stature as Obama is in throwing out talking points. I really don't think McCain prepared much for that debate at all.

And impressions are generally colored by bias. Like I said I watched it several days ago and can recall exact examples because exact examples were provided by McCain. Obama wasn't doing that, yes he had probally rehearsed and yes he gave a few camp lines. But most of his lines was pretty obviously spur of the moment.

Its also laughable that what you essentially said in your paragraph is that obama actually prepares himself and educates himself as well as retains information well. All very good things....meanwhile McCain just goes from the gut and the ass falling back on the same dozen lines to back up his views.

MSI Magus
10-01-2008, 02:18 PM
Source?

Depends on the measurement. I read a bunch of papers in the morning and throughout the day online, but I don't subscribe to any papers.

Ill fully admit that the number came from my ass(unlike what thrust feels about Obama I dont retain information well heh). However I know iv read study after study after study year after year that shows that less and less Americans are reading and most Americans get their news from nightly local news broadcasts. I doubt its 3% but do you really believe that many Americans still read the newspaper? I said something like this before and someone got mad at me(this was years ago)so I actually started just asking people in my daily life how often they read a news paper or heaven forbid a book on politics or current events and most just laughed and said they hadnt touched either in years or they have but only for comics and sports. I would be suprised if more then 25% of Americans read a news paper in several times in a year let alone on a regular/weekly basis.

thrustbucket
10-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Its also laughable that what you essentially said in your paragraph is that obama actually prepares himself and educates himself as well as retains information well. All very good things....meanwhile McCain just goes from the gut and the ass falling back on the same dozen lines to back up his views.

I'm not really sure why that's laughable, unless you are still ASSuming I support McCain for some reason.

I don't disagree with your assessment. All I am saying is McCain shooting from the hip increased the entertainment value of watching the debate. Had McCain been as rehearsed and stoic as Obama, it would have driven me to tears of boredom.

Keep in mind, all I get from these debates is entertainment. I already dislike both candidates quite a bit.

homeland
10-01-2008, 09:19 PM
damn those media fella's asking such hard questions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Y1oYThKts


honesty would love for her to just give a straight answer, have a old school will ferrel moment. Take a deep breath and just blow everyones mind.. but I've figured it out.. Ahmadinejad is her fall back.. its like Mccains "prisoner of war" when in doubt just say some bullshit and then Ahmedinejad....

Capitalizt
10-01-2008, 10:37 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG G!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBt0r9Exv2I

A potential President who can't name a single Supreme Court case aside from Roe V Wade...

Brown v Board of Education.
Bush v Gore anyone?

Do you guys think she's even read the Constitution of United States of America? FFS..She can't even name a single NEWSPAPER that she has ever read!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y

niceguyshawne
10-01-2008, 10:41 PM
It is like Couric is her Kryptonite or something.

Friend of Sonic
10-01-2008, 10:49 PM
Do you guys think she's even read the Constitution of United States of America?
Well, most modern politicians haven't, no.

Dead of Knight
10-01-2008, 11:16 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG G!!!!!!!!!!

Watch this: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n

A potential President who can't name a single Supreme Court case aside from Roe V Wade...

Brown v Board of Education.
Bush v Gore anyone?

Do you guys think she's even read the Constitution of United States of America? FFS..She can't even name a single NEWSPAPER that she has ever read!


What's even worse to me is the contrast between her and Biden. I don't really like Biden, but the contrast is insane. It's like he's MLK Jr compared to her oratory skills. It's times like these when I wonder if the GOP is just pulling one big joke on the Obama campaign and America by picking Palin.

Frogurt.man
10-01-2008, 11:19 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG G!!!!!!!!!!

Watch this: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n

A potential President who can't name a single Supreme Court case aside from Roe V Wade...

Brown v Board of Education.
Bush v Gore anyone?

Do you guys think she's even read the Constitution of United States of America? FFS..She can't even name a single NEWSPAPER that she has ever read!



She asked if she could name any other Supreme Court case she disagreed with other than Roe v Wade. That is a tough question if your only familiar with the more well known cases. It would have been funny if she said Bush v Gore.

Dead of Knight
10-01-2008, 11:31 PM
Something tells me a lot of her supporters disagree with Brown v. Board....

Azumangaman
10-01-2008, 11:46 PM
While I'm not huge on American politics, I can't imagine myself NOT watching Biden vs. Palin.
Of course I'll be watching the Canadian debate and have the VP one recorded, but still.

cochesecochese
10-02-2008, 12:52 AM
A potential President who can't name a single Supreme Court case aside from Roe V Wade...

Brown v Board of Education.
Bush v Gore anyone?

Do you guys think she's even read the Constitution of United States of America? FFS..She can't even name a single NEWSPAPER that she has ever read!

GOTCHA!

It is like Couric is her Kryptonite or something.

Those legs are crackin. I wouldn't be able to get through an interview with Couric either if all I could think about was those things being wrapped around my head.

She asked if she could name any other Supreme Court case she disagreed with other than Roe v Wade. That is a tough question if your only familiar with the more well known cases. It would have been funny if she said Bush v Gore.

Yes it is a tough thing for the average citizen to remember something like that (I can't) but remember she is running for Veep.

SpazX
10-02-2008, 01:10 AM
Yes it is a tough thing for the average citizen to remember something like that (I can't) but remember she is running for Veep.

Plessy v. Ferguson? :-P

Though I guess that was already overturned....

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 01:32 AM
While I'm not huge on American politics, I can't imagine myself NOT watching Biden vs. Palin.
Of course I'll be watching the Canadian debate and have the VP one recorded, but still.
Canadian debate drinking game?

Capitalizt
10-02-2008, 02:52 AM
She asked if she could name any other Supreme Court case she disagreed with other than Roe v Wade. That is a tough question if your only familiar with the more well known cases. It would have been funny if she said Bush v Gore.

You would think she would at least be able to remember Exxon Shipping v. Baker from June 2008 (3 months ago!!):

"The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision Wednesday slashing the damages Exxon Mobil (XOM) must pay Alaska as a result of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill could have unexpectedly wide-ranging consequences. An award to Alaskan fishermen and other residents was reduced from $2.5 billion to about $500 million."

:facepalm: How could she forget such a major (and recent) judgement involving her state?

Watch the CBS video again starting at 2:55. That "deer in headlights" look is getting very familiar during these interviews.

depascal22
10-02-2008, 11:22 AM
She asked if she could name any other Supreme Court case she disagreed with other than Roe v Wade. That is a tough question if your only familiar with the more well known cases. It would have been funny if she said Bush v Gore.

But if she's coming to Washington to change things than she should have a laundry list of cases and bills that have "wronged" the American people. Please let this be more than abortion. With everything that is wrong in this country, please let our executive branch have their eyes on a prize more lofty than overturning Roe v Wade.

MSI Magus
10-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Something I think alot of people are missing in all this is even if she isnt stupid and even if she is actually quite smart these interviews still would show she is not qualified to be President. I mean if you stress out and cant handle the pressure of talking to Couric you have no reason to think you can be President.

depascal22
10-02-2008, 11:52 AM
But she's a real hockey mom and real hockey moms are really stressed out. It makes her more real if she doesn't have all the answers.

cochesecochese
10-02-2008, 01:53 PM
Something I think alot of people are missing in all this is even if she isnt stupid and even if she is actually quite smart these interviews still would show she is not qualified to be President. I mean if you stress out and cant handle the pressure of talking to Couric you have no reason to think you can be President.

Snapple Fact: She really is that stupid.

freakyzeeky
10-03-2008, 03:53 PM
Good lord... Palin on Fox News :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ear3W1usG1c&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/palin-on-fox-news-couric_n_131655.html

SpazX
10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
God damn did she just repeat verbatim what she said at the debate?

freakyzeeky
10-03-2008, 04:27 PM
God damn did she just repeat verbatim what she said at the debate?

Haha, basically... Those are her new talking points. ;)

thrustbucket
10-03-2008, 05:05 PM
What continues to amuse me is that all politicians and candidates have their broken record talking points. We've seen it since the beginning of time. But somehow people are only able to spot it in their opposing party.

depascal22
10-03-2008, 05:09 PM
It's partisanship at it's finest.

HotShotX
10-05-2008, 12:31 PM
Here's parenting at its finest:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2czc1ua.jpg

~HotShotX

camoor
10-05-2008, 12:40 PM
Good lord... Palin on Fox News :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ear3W1usG1c&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/palin-on-fox-news-couric_n_131655.html

Our position in Afganistan is wreckless and it's all Obama's fault?

freakyzeeky
10-05-2008, 01:23 PM
Here's parenting at its finest:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2czc1ua.jpg

~HotShotX

Woah! Look at Piper! :-o
Is that pic 'shopped or is it the real deal? :lol:

The Crotch
10-05-2008, 02:27 PM
Ah! Whazzafuck happened to my CAG? Do the last two posts look really tiny to anyone else?

SpazX
10-05-2008, 02:29 PM
Ah! Whazzafuck happened to my CAG? Do the last two posts look really tiny to anyone else?

Yeah I've seen it fuck up like this before, but I think it eventually corrected itself.

Koggit
10-05-2008, 02:40 PM
One of my posts did this one time, so I just deleted it and all was well... if camoor leaves his post I think it'll be like this until the next page.

CAG 2.0 still has quite a few bugs but it doesn't seem like fixing them is high on anyone's list of priorities.

Xevious
10-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Hustler Magazine is producing a porno called "Nailin' Palin"

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/03/nailin-palin/

It has a Palin look-a-like