View Full Version : CAG FastPoll: Will McCain Make the Debate Tomorrow?
mykevermin
09-25-2008, 08:25 PM
Question's in the title.
JolietJake
09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
I hope not, i'd love to see Obama show up and McCain miss it. Just because it would be so strange. I have no idea what effect it would have on either campaign.
cochesecochese
09-25-2008, 08:31 PM
No.
I am anxiously awaiting the output of the spin machine.
dmaul1114
09-25-2008, 08:33 PM
I think he'll be there. He'd look to be otherwise, if he doesn't show up and Obama does a town hall.
I was worried doing that would fly in Obama's face, but it seems like people mostly saw throw McCain's stunt and if he doesn't show up Obama can really toss the "a president has to be able to juggle multiple things" and the "people need to hear from the next president" stuff at McCain to great effect if he has the stage to himself.
cochesecochese
09-25-2008, 08:36 PM
If he does show up it will be even worse. I think the term is 'flip-flopper.'
Koggit
09-25-2008, 08:36 PM
Yes, he'll show up. The debate will go on with or without him. Not showing up would be political suicide.
happy
09-25-2008, 08:37 PM
I would have said yes a few hours ago, but now with rumors that McCain is killing the plan they had put together it's clear he isn't making the debate.
That said, the democrats should have a vote, they easily have 60 votes for it considering how many republicans are going into tight races and how easily this could be used against them.
Chase
09-25-2008, 08:38 PM
Considering various reports and how McCain looks like he had a stroke in recent pictures, I doubt he'll make the Friday debate. Perhaps he'll decide to attend the other two.
As for Palin, if she were a smart, strong, independent woman she wouldn’t allow herself to be treated like an ornament. I look forward to the Vice Presidential debate and watching her struggle to form a relevant, coherent thought.
niceguyshawne
09-25-2008, 08:39 PM
He will be there. The whole "suspending the campaign" stunt didn't work.
dmaul1114
09-25-2008, 08:40 PM
If he does show up it will be even worse. I think the term is 'flip-flopper.'
True, but he could at least defend himself vs. it being a one man show, which was my point.
It's not going to turn out well for him either way, but better for him to be there and at least try to respond.
freakyzeeky
09-25-2008, 08:44 PM
He better be there if he doesn't want his poll numbers to slide down further... ;)
mykevermin
09-25-2008, 08:52 PM
I hope he makes a WWE-style run-in, replete with theme music and brandishing a folding chair.
RAMSTORIA
09-25-2008, 08:56 PM
i think he will. skipping the debate will hurt him, even if his stunt is "successful", im sure his campaign is aware of this.
homeland
09-25-2008, 09:08 PM
If he doesn't show up, are the networks still going to air Obama answering the crowds questions? And if he can't make it why not just send in Palin?
dmaul1114
09-25-2008, 09:12 PM
If he doesn't show up, are the networks still going to air Obama answering the crowds questions?
It's a CNN debate, so I imagine it would at least be on there. Some networks may decide to show something else. But who knows, since they wouldn't have time to advertise anything new.
And if he can't make it why not just send in Palin?
They obviously have no confidence in her given shielding her from most interviews, and wanting to cancel this debate and do it in place of the VP debate next week (presumably to give Palin more time to prepare).
And after the terrible interview with Katie Couric, their lack of confidence is well founded.
cochesecochese
09-25-2008, 09:14 PM
If he doesn't show up, are the networks still going to air Obama answering the crowds questions? And if he can't make it why not just send in Palin?
If he doesn't show up, Obama is going to turn the debate into a town hall style meeting and field audience members' questions. The networks will air the session.
*cough* There's a video around here somewhere of Palin interviewing with Couric. How can I put this? Let's just say that while she may not be 'competent' in the traditional sense she's working on it.
edit: damn you, dmaul and your fast fingers
bigdaddy
09-25-2008, 09:17 PM
I hope he doesn't I heard this morning in 92 Bush didn't show up and Clinton said he was too afraid to debate.
Several networks won't have anything to air, so Obama will talk and people will listen.
mykevermin
09-25-2008, 09:25 PM
So it's not unprecedented for a candidate to skip a debate at the last minute?
freakyzeeky
09-25-2008, 09:40 PM
I hope he makes a WWE-style run-in, replete with theme music and brandishing a folding chair.
I rooting for a Beer Track... with a hose! :D
Ikohn4ever
09-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Barr said he would debate Obama, that could hurt McCain by getting those few libertarians excited
Friend of Sonic
09-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Barr said he would debate Obama, that could hurt McCain by getting those few libertarians excited
That would be cool actually. I'd rather hear a McCain and Obama debate than a McCain debate.
mykevermin
09-25-2008, 10:16 PM
Ouch. The ears versus the moustache.
Friend of Sonic
09-25-2008, 10:20 PM
Ouch. The ears versus the moustache.
Ears will win because Obama has two of them... which he uses to listen to the American people. 8-)
thrustbucket
09-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Ears will win because Obama has two of them... which he uses to listen to the American people. 8-)
:puke:
Nothing more gag-worthy than a true-believer. For anything.
Koggit
09-26-2008, 12:07 AM
Bob Barr's mustache is no laughing matter. Facial hair is a legitimate debate strategy
http://yourargumentisinvalid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/there_is_a_windmill_in_my_beard.jpg
JolietJake
09-26-2008, 12:08 AM
Does Barr remind anyone else of Eugene Levy? I swear i've seen Levy in a movie where he looked just like Barr.
HotShotX
09-26-2008, 12:25 AM
I say that tomorrow morning, Bush issues an order that both Obama and McCain remain in D.C. until the bailout bill is passed, and the McCain camp uses it to say Obama is shrugging his duties as a Senator if he even so much as utters a disagreement.
~HotShotX
crunchb3rry
09-26-2008, 12:36 AM
He'll make the debates. He never intended on missing them. The whole thing was pure publicity stunt...just like his VP pick. He just thinks we're all stupid enough not to see that.
SpazX
09-26-2008, 01:50 AM
IMO, he has to be there or he's pretty much finished, so he'll definitely be there.
Friend of Sonic
09-26-2008, 04:55 AM
:puke:
Nothing more gag-worthy than a true-believer. For anything.
Damn, I know Newegg had some sarcasm detectors in this morning. Let me use their "stock notifier" and I'll send you a PM when they come back into stock, k?
bigdaddy
09-26-2008, 05:01 AM
He'll make the debates. He never intended on missing them. The whole thing was pure publicity stunt...just like his VP pick. He just thinks we're all stupid enough not to see that.
This is America, the majority of the country is stupid, so he wins.
Tybee
09-26-2008, 12:54 PM
It's official. Chicken Little is on the plane now.
Sorry "No" people. You lose.
DJSteel
09-26-2008, 12:59 PM
It is my opinion that this 'bail out' would have been resolved two days ago if this wasn't so close to election.
cochesecochese
09-26-2008, 01:01 PM
Perfect. After mucking up the negotiating process in Washington and leaving everything in shambles now he's going to show up for the debates. What's he going to do next, give Jim Lehrer the clap?
DJSteel
09-26-2008, 01:05 PM
Perfect. After mucking up the negotiating process in Washington and leaving everything in shambles now he's going to show up for the debates. What's he going to do next, give Jim Lehrer the clap?
This will be the first debate I'll actually flip between. I'm interested on how Obama and McCain will debate one another especially with all these ads out there. They walk the fine line of slander.
KingBroly
09-26-2008, 01:24 PM
It's a foreign policy debate, so...I expect some interesting quotes from Obama. I wonder what happened in that meeting, though.
Tybee
09-26-2008, 01:35 PM
I wonder what happened in that meeting, though.
See my post here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198169&page=6
MSI Magus
09-26-2008, 01:48 PM
McCain just announced he will be at the debate
homeland
09-26-2008, 01:57 PM
which sucks...as I'd rather want to hear what future President Obama has to say about our fucked up country for a few hours.
KingBroly
09-26-2008, 02:18 PM
It's a foreign policy debate. Our country will be excluded from discussion, unless it's to put blame on us.
homeland
09-26-2008, 02:25 PM
actually not sure where I read it but the Presidential debate Committee sent out an letter to both Obama and Mccain campaigns last week stating that there was going to be a few questions about the economy at the debate, for obvious reasons.
thrustbucket
09-26-2008, 02:40 PM
which sucks...as I'd rather want to hear what future President Obama has to say about our fucked up country for a few hours.
Well you could always paruse sites like mediamatters or dailykos to get a pretty good idea of what he'd say if he did.
homeland
09-26-2008, 02:50 PM
you forgot huffingtonpost and crooksandliars!