View Full Version : Ar Tonelico 2 Exclusive Rosenqueen Preorder Bonus $39.99
Slade
09-26-2008, 10:29 PM
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Certain bonuses nly available at Rosenqueen
Item Includes
1. Ar tonelico™ 2 Bundle Pack
Includes :
* Ar tonelico™ 2: Melody of Metafalica
* Ar tonelico™ 2: Official Art Collection
* Ar tonelico™ 2: Original Soundtrack
(This product will be purchasable at any retailer)
2. Ar tonelico™ 2 RQ Exclusive Soundtrack
Includes :
* 31 songs that aren't included in the Original Soundtrack
* 12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection
(Limited to 2,000 Units)
http://www.rosenqueen.com//index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=271&HS=1
Vinny
09-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Pretty good deal, especially for the price.
Might wanna add the price to the title, OP.
So is this game/series any good?
It is kind of an RPG/Dating-sim, or something?
Slade
09-26-2008, 10:41 PM
Pretty good deal, especially for the price.
Might wanna add the price to the title, OP.
Added, thanks.
I bit for one, my main beef with Rosenqueen is that they charge your card when you buy it instead of charging you after it ships but I've gotten everything I've paid for from there so I suppose all's that ends well. The 2000 limited booklet just begs for a quick order anyhow.
Been waiting for Ar Tonelico 2 a while and I'm looking forward to it as much as I am for Persona 4- all the preorder extras are just icing on the cake.
December can't come soon enough!
MajorG
09-26-2008, 10:43 PM
Not bad at all, will still probably preorder through gamestop once it becomes available.
Asgardian
09-26-2008, 10:46 PM
Thanks OP, will order this asap... but for some reason, media mail is not an option? I've send them email...
Although this game being at $40 is pretty good, and we are getting the exclusive stuff for free... but I have to say, a 12 page art booklet is pretty pathetic considering the upcoming ATLUS releases with 60 and 100 page full size art books ($37 from Amazon with no tax and free ship no less)... come on NIS, you guys can do a bit better...
Added, thanks.
I bit for one, my main beef with Rosenqueen is that they charge your card when you buy it instead of charging you after it ships but I've gotten everything I've paid for from there so I suppose all's that ends well. The 2000 limited booklet just begs for a quick order anyhow.
Been waiting for Ar Tonelico 2 a while and I'm looking forward to it as much as I am for Persona 4- all the preorder extras are just icing on the cake.
December can't come soon enough!
That's my biggest gripe and reason for avoiding RQ. I did buy Mana Khemia w/Figure though. I can't resist stuff like that.
jacknicklson
09-26-2008, 11:08 PM
I bit. 70 tracks is sample heaven!
$48.24 after shipping for those curious.
amigreenleaf
09-26-2008, 11:09 PM
Got mine. I ordered one. :D
NolbertoS
09-26-2008, 11:13 PM
I'll get it for collection purposes. Don't want to have to pay exhorbant prices on ebay like I did with Ar Tonelico "Brand New"...this game is mine.
Hirokun
09-26-2008, 11:22 PM
Picked one up thanks OP, Im still looking to pick up the Original Ar Tonelico with everything, damn that re-release screwing up eBay -_- If anyone has one let me know!
AkariK
09-26-2008, 11:23 PM
Wait, is this the same as this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMSHSI ? This is $30, that's a $20 difference from Rosenqueen, for 1 CD? I want this game but $20 for a CD really doesn't appeal to me.....
slidecage
09-26-2008, 11:24 PM
so preorder though them and get
12 page artbook and a 31 cd soundtrack... everything else you can pick up any place.
if i know i can dump my last stuff i might preorder tis monday
maxgle
09-26-2008, 11:38 PM
*look at my huge backlog of games and look at this* arrrg...
newlu
09-26-2008, 11:40 PM
Wait, is this the same as this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMSHSI ? This is $30, that's a $20 difference from Rosenqueen, for 1 CD? I want this game but $20 for a CD really doesn't appeal to me.....
$10 actually
Masterkyo
09-26-2008, 11:44 PM
If i pre-order at amazon. I should get everything right? or special Bonus 2nd sound track only at RQ ?
lobitoh
09-26-2008, 11:45 PM
yeah
but shipping almost kills the deal :S
Vinny
09-26-2008, 11:57 PM
Picked one up thanks OP, Im still looking to pick up the Original Ar Tonelico with everything, damn that re-release screwing up eBay -_- If anyone has one let me know!
Uh.. the boxed version with the artbook used to sell for over $70 for a used copy, now you can get one for a lot less, like $40. It might be harder to find but you'll pay half as much, how's that a bad thing?
If i pre-order at amazon. I should get everything right? or special Bonus 2nd sound track only at RQ ?
As it's listed in the OP: Every bundle of the game available at any retailer comes with a soundtrack. Order from Rosenqueen and you get an exclusive 2nd soundtrack CD.
RQ is definitely killing with shipping though. No media mail option sucks too.
Ecofreak
09-27-2008, 12:42 AM
Wait, is this the same as this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMSHSI ? This is $30, that's a $20 difference from Rosenqueen, for 1 CD? I want this game but $20 for a CD really doesn't appeal to me.....
Man -- I'm really tempted to pre-order at Amazon. Thanks for the tip!
hiamiyumi
09-27-2008, 12:52 AM
Thanks OP. Time to use credit card/D*** wamu
erehwon
09-27-2008, 01:10 AM
Thanks. I ordered a copy. I really need to slow down on spending.
Just ordered it. How can I found out if I'm one of the first 2000? Should I contact them?
acecombat
09-27-2008, 01:50 AM
I want to get this but is there any other Retailers that will have this special Bundle?
jacknicklson
09-27-2008, 01:56 AM
I want to get this but is there any other Retailers that will have this special Bundle?
It specifically says RQ only right on the page
lobitoh
09-27-2008, 02:10 AM
lol nvm just ordered because of the extra stuff....
I was wondering if they could lower the shipping price..
Mana Khemia set even had a cheaper shipping price
buckythekat
09-27-2008, 02:18 AM
hmm I think I'll switch to Amazon honestly, the second soundtrack really isn't worth $20 extra
then again Amazon has been removing listings for items lately where they got the info wrong and then putting up a new listing (then canceling my order on me...)
so wouldn't surprise me if they did that once they learn that it's actually $39.99 MSRP
they did this to me on the Firefly blu-ray boxset (I still haven't figure out what's different in the new listing though)
rainking187
09-27-2008, 02:20 AM
Thanks OP, will order this asap... but for some reason, media mail is not an option? I've send them email...
Although this game being at $40 is pretty good, and we are getting the exclusive stuff for free... but I have to say, a 12 page art booklet is pretty pathetic considering the upcoming ATLUS releases with 60 and 100 page full size art books ($37 from Amazon with no tax and free ship no less)... come on NIS, you guys can do a bit better...
The 12 page artbook comes with the RQ CD. I imagine like liner notes. That's different from the artbook everyone gets. What's with all the complaints about shipping though? Did they drastically raise the price recently? Cause typically when I order from them shipping is about $4, same as Amazon Prime overnight and I get it just as fast. Or are you guys ordering from outside the US?
Antic
09-27-2008, 03:21 AM
I pre-ordered...but it forced me into picking Priority shipping (which was $8 something). The option wasn't available or something...
I pre-ordered...but it forced me into picking Priority shipping (which was $8 something). The option wasn't available or something...
Do they tax out of state orders? That's what I paid for shipping + tax to Socal.
Antic
09-27-2008, 03:30 AM
Do they tax out of state orders? That's what I paid for shipping + tax to Socal.
Subtotal: $39.99
Tax: $0.00
S&H: $8.25
Final Total: $48.24
HaLLuZiNaTiOnZ
09-27-2008, 03:36 AM
Just ordered it. How can I found out if I'm one of the first 2000? Should I contact them?
This I want to know this. Otherwise, I might switch.
NolbertoS
09-27-2008, 03:54 AM
Just ordered this, only cuz I'm hoping it becomes as rare as "Ar Tonelico" Bundle with artbook :D
chadthechosen
09-27-2008, 04:37 AM
anybody think this will still be up by Friday? Really would like to order a copy but won't be able to till then and there is it says only 2000 copies of it...
dan13l858
09-27-2008, 04:38 AM
I just got a copy for my girlfriend and I.
AkariK
09-27-2008, 05:23 AM
Sigh, I'm a sucker for bonuses, and I had a balance in paypal anyway.... 47.89 to SoCal, 4.80 shipping, 3.10 tax. I had 47.68 left on a prepaid visa that I would have loved to use, but that missing 21 cents kills it :(
$10 actually
I don't see where you get the $10 from. $29.99 at amazon, with free shipping (especially if you have prime), vs $40 plus minimum $5 shipping, plus tax for those of us in California = $20. Well, $18.
Edit: My order number is 12002. That should be within the first 2000, I hope.
Slade
09-27-2008, 05:28 AM
anybody think this will still be up by Friday? Really would like to order a copy but won't be able to till then and there is it says only 2000 copies of it...
No way to be sure to be honest but if we compared some order numbers we might be able to figure it out.
I ordered pretty early and ended up with the last 3 digits 719 so I'm going to guess that I was either the 719th or the 19th to order. Still, limited items in preorders tend to go pretty quickly and I don't think they'll take it off the stocked list just because they are no longer able to ship the preorder item on the day of the game's release.
As they mention on the top of the page "**NOTICE: Items ordered with preorder items will be shipped when the latest preorder item is available.**"
So if you order after the 2000 is filled up, you'd have to wait a while to get your game shipped with the bonus stuff.
On the topic of shipping, I was rather unhappy how it took more than a week(took about 8 days) for me to get my Mana Khemia set so priority shipping works for me.
newlu
09-27-2008, 05:45 AM
Sigh, I'm a sucker for bonuses, and I had a balance in paypal anyway.... 47.89 to SoCal, 4.80 shipping, 3.10 tax. I had 47.68 left on a prepaid visa that I would have loved to use, but that missing 21 cents kills it :(
I don't see where you get the $10 from. $29.99 at amazon, with free shipping (especially if you have prime), vs $40 plus minimum $5 shipping, plus tax for those of us in California = $20. Well, $18.
ok my bad
i was talking about before tax & SH
rainking187
09-27-2008, 06:53 AM
No way to be sure to be honest but if we compared some order numbers we might be able to figure it out.
I ordered pretty early and ended up with the last 3 digits 719 so I'm going to guess that I was either the 719th or the 19th to order. Still, limited items in preorders tend to go pretty quickly and I don't think they'll take it off the stocked list just because they are no longer able to ship the preorder item on the day of the game's release.
As they mention on the top of the page "**NOTICE: Items ordered with preorder items will be shipped when the latest preorder item is available.**"
So if you order after the 2000 is filled up, you'd have to wait a while to get your game shipped with the bonus stuff.
They don't restock preorder items. If you order after the 2000 are gone you don't get one. Now I'm worried a little, I usually feel I order pretty early, but my order number is roughly two hundred after yours, so I don't know.
As they mention on the top of the page "**NOTICE: Items ordered with preorder items will be shipped when the latest preorder item is available.**"
So if you order after the 2000 is filled up, you'd have to wait a while to get your game shipped with the bonus stuff.
I don't think that's what they meant. They probably were talking about including another item with any preorders. In which case nothing gets shipped until the last item in the order gets released.
slidecage
09-27-2008, 09:05 AM
I pre-ordered...but it forced me into picking Priority shipping (which was $8 something). The option wasn't available or something...
8 bucks for shipping. I think they only charge 4 for the disgaea and the other game promos
I think i will pass,,,, its not worth 18 bucks extra just for a single cd and 12 page artbook. + i doubt i would ever play it
I would rather have Lum. arch 2 or Chrono trigger
trunks982
09-27-2008, 09:40 AM
last night i checked the shipping costs me around 8-something. this morning its now 10-something. only UPS cheapest shipping.
Masterkyo
09-27-2008, 10:45 AM
same here. I stick with MSRP $29.99 with amazon Premium Edition.
Alien Spider
09-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Wait, is this the same as this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMSHSI ? This is $30, that's a $20 difference from Rosenqueen, for 1 CD? I want this game but $20 for a CD really doesn't appeal to me.....
Nice catch! For $30, I'm going to go ahead and preorder from Amazon. Paying almost $20 more at Rosenqueen (price is $10 higher plus expensive shipping) for the second soundtrack doesn't really appeal to me either. Thanks for the tip!
Omnislash124
09-27-2008, 11:46 AM
I went ahead and got it. I had balance on my Paypal account from Microsoft Live's Cashback thing.
My order number was 12085....so....it would REALLY suck if the first one was 10000, but assuming they don't reuse numbers, 10000 was already used up with the Disgaea/Rhapsody bundle.....hopefully. (Which, speaking of which, I still haven't gotten yet. (-_-))
Maromi
09-27-2008, 12:04 PM
Yeah, the biggest qualms I have RosenQueen are:
1) They charge you at the time of purchase.
2) Their shipping prices and lack of coupons/deals are discouraging.
If this sticks at 30 bucks on Amazon, it's really not worth it for just a bonus CD. If the premium edition itself were only available through RosenQueen, then I might bite, but no sense paying an extra 18 bucks for a small soundtrack with liner notes.
NDPsycho
09-27-2008, 12:55 PM
8 bucks for shipping. I think they only charge 4 for the disgaea and the other game promos
I think i will pass,,,, its not worth 18 bucks extra just for a single cd and 12 page artbook. + i doubt i would ever play it
I would rather have Lum. arch 2 or Chrono trigger
I couldn't agree with you more. After I saw that it was going to be $7.20 to ship it, I have decided to go with Amazon too. An extra soundtrack is not worth $17.20 in price difference. If it was a statue or a figure or something like that, sure. Extra sound tracks rarely increase the value or collectibility of a release by much. Especially if it is included without any alteration to the box set that everyone else will be getting. Special thanks to whoever posted the Amazon info.
willardhaven
09-27-2008, 01:09 PM
Although I think Gust is one of the worst developers out there, I am considering flipping this on Ebay for a quick 50 bucks like MK.
Maromi
09-27-2008, 01:20 PM
Although I think Gust is one of the worst developers out there, I am considering flipping this on Ebay for a quick 50 bucks like MK.
Highly doubt this will fetch anything remotely close to the Mana Khemia box. That was a much better bonus than a puny soundtrack, and it was limited to 1,000 units.
Ryuukishi
09-27-2008, 01:34 PM
Hmm, was tempted to go for the bonus soundtrack, but having to pay almost $20 more, charging right away instead of at shipment, and still not being 100% sure that I'll even get the bonus is just too much to deal with. I'll preorder from Amazon instead.
A 61% increase in price after shipping and markup is hard to stomach for just a music CD, even as someone who likes soundtracks as a bonus. As much as I want to preorder it, common sense tells me "no."
I can't see it selling out any earlier than Friday (based on past trends), so I have some time to think it over. For now, I'm going with Amazon and $30 MSRP.
Fonic
09-27-2008, 02:39 PM
Well, I went and ordered it via Rosenqueen earlier this morning. Part of me kind of regrets it but as long as I get the extra OST I don't mind the price too much. It wasn't that long ago that I was paying fifty bucks (plus tax) for PS2 games by themselves after all. Hopefully my order number, which ends with 118, will qualify for the bonus.
Vinny
09-27-2008, 02:50 PM
I went ahead and ordered from RQ. I'm not happy about how they've handled my last two orders but I really want the exclusive soundtrack.
Gamelore
09-27-2008, 04:17 PM
Awesome catch on the $30 preorder on Amazon. Ordered.
If I'm going to pay $18+ for a CD, I'm going to pick something other than this. Also, there are so many tracks, how long could they be?
wbc1228
09-27-2008, 04:40 PM
humm.... $18 for a bonus soundtrack that I'll probably listen to once....
guess I'll get it from amazon.
now i need to track down the first game.
too bad it is OOS at the rosenqueen website.
I should of ordered it when it is was still in stock.
:-(
does anyone know where I can buy the first game... at a reasonable price?
Hirokun
09-27-2008, 04:47 PM
humm.... $18 for a bonus soundtrack that I'll probably listen to once....
guess I'll get it from amazon.
now i need to track down the first game.
too bad it is OOS at the rosenqueen website.
I should of ordered it when it is was still in stock.
:-(
does anyone know where I can buy the first game... at a reasonable price?
If you dont care for all the original stuff that was with the first release of it, hit up eBay/gamestop they have them around $20-$30. If you want the original release(like me), good luck finding it in the hordes of re-prints out there.
jererjerer
09-27-2008, 05:21 PM
it took me forever to find a new copy 6 months ago for the first game
some gc might have the gutted version
but if you want just the game, take Hirokun's advice and get the reprints
Masterkyo
09-27-2008, 05:45 PM
i got the re-print & the sound track for $25 at RQ. Now i spent $30- $5 off Bill me Later = $24.99 for 2nd game with CD sound track at Amazon.
UberNinjaz
09-27-2008, 06:25 PM
They actually bothered making a sequel? First one was beyond awful with all its technical problems & just overall boring content.
Hirokun
09-27-2008, 06:27 PM
They actually bothered making a sequel? First one was beyond awful with all its technical problems & just overall boring content.
Thanks for trolling the thread, apparently you are the only one who didnt appreciate the first one
NDPsycho
09-27-2008, 08:12 PM
They actually bothered making a sequel? First one was beyond awful with all its technical problems & just overall boring content.
What technical problems did you encounter? I played through it and never had any issues at all. Did you actually play the game? I can understand if the content didn't appeal to you, but then I don't understand why you'd bother entering a thread about the sequel if that was true? I thought the first game was a blast.
Given that there was great demand on NIS's website to bring the game over, many other people also disagree with your opinion.
jererjerer
09-27-2008, 08:24 PM
speaking of the demand of bringing AT2 over, I remember reading way back when Mana Khemia was released and people claimed that it was going to be one of the very last few games for PS2-and here we are, nearly 8 months since then, and we are still looking at a load of great games here. Anyhow, I went with the Amazon route-20 bucks just is too steep a price for me
mberkes
09-27-2008, 09:21 PM
Wow, living in Canada once again screws me over. Amazon doesn't ship the item outside US currently, and RQ charges me 20 bucks shipping. HUH.
buckythekat
09-28-2008, 12:06 AM
well I emailed Rosenqueen asking them to cancel my initial order through them (since didn't know about Amazon's listing at the time)
anyone have any history of dealing with Rosenqueen and canceling? their help page claims all orders are final
Serpentor
09-28-2008, 12:18 AM
ordered from Amazon, with taxes and all, still cheaper than B&M stores... I doubt GS is selling this $29.99... Can this be a price mistake on Amazon's part? They're not honoring price mistakes lately...
Fonic
09-28-2008, 12:21 AM
well I emailed Rosenqueen asking them to cancel my initial order through them (since didn't know about Amazon's listing at the time)
anyone have any history of dealing with Rosenqueen and canceling? their help page claims all orders are final
They charge your card right when you make the order, and are notoriously difficult to get in touch with, so you might be Fucked. Or at least be in for a hell of a time.
Masterkyo
09-28-2008, 12:32 AM
ordered from Amazon, with taxes and all, still cheaper than B&M stores... I doubt GS is selling this $29.99... Can this be a price mistake on Amazon's part? They're not honoring price mistakes lately...
Amazon shipping "Warriors Orochi 2" (360) $30 yesterday. Hope i got the game Monday ;)
Maromi
09-28-2008, 12:58 AM
They charge your card right when you make the order, and are notoriously difficult to get in touch with, so you might be Fucked. Or at least be in for a hell of a time.
I've sent them a few e-mails since doing business with them, and they've never once responded to me. However, it was never for cancellation reasons; still, though, it seems like it's extremely hard to get a hold of them. I don't really dig their business practices.
I've sent them a few e-mails since doing business with them, and they've never once responded to me. However, it was never for cancellation reasons; still, though, it seems like it's extremely hard to get a hold of them. I don't really dig their business practices.
Just call up your CC company. You don't have to take any crap from any merchant ignoring you.
buckythekat
09-28-2008, 01:52 AM
I guess if needed I'll dispute the charge with my bank
edit: has anyone ever tried calling that customer service phone number that Rosenqueen lists?
I guess if needed I'll dispute the charge with my bank
edit: has anyone ever tried calling that customer service phone number that Rosenqueen lists?
One tip I have is to keep records of your attempts to reach the merchant. Like emails. You can fax them to the bank if they want them.
y2kenjination
09-28-2008, 07:00 PM
I have yet to play my copy of the first one. Was it any good? =/
Shady3011
09-28-2008, 09:21 PM
Went with Amazon. The extra CD isn't worth the $18 to me.
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 01:09 AM
I pre-ordered, but I'm not too happy about my order number... it doesn't really look like I'll be getting it. I'll be really pissed off if I missed my chance. This thing was posted the day that I went out of town. :(
reicaden
09-29-2008, 01:33 AM
Wait, is this the same as this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMSHSI ? This is $30, that's a $20 difference from Rosenqueen, for 1 CD? I want this game but $20 for a CD really doesn't appeal to me.....
so does the amazon pre-order come no art book? or an artbook, but not the additional 12page one?
Vinny
09-29-2008, 01:37 AM
so does the amazon pre-order come no art book? or an artbook, but not the additional 12page one?
Damn, do people not know how to read? It says on RosenQueen's site, every copy comes with the same artbook and soundtrack CD. But if you order from RQ, you'll get the extra 2nd soundtrack CD.
Are we even sure Amazon will keep the $30 price? I have a feeling lot of people here will kick themselves for passing on this for only $8 more.
Shady3011
09-29-2008, 04:17 AM
Even if they don't, the people who jumped on it have pretty much made up their mind about the extra CD's value.
Serpentor
09-29-2008, 11:13 AM
12 pages? Man, stinks comparing to 100 pages :)
As long as the reprints don't come with cool stuffs, it's all good... I don't think i'll ever play the game, but hell, i have tons of dvds i haven't watch and i'm still buying anyway...
Ryuukishi
09-29-2008, 11:19 AM
Are we even sure Amazon will keep the $30 price? I have a feeling lot of people here will kick themselves for passing on this for only $8 more.I will predict that Amazon will raise their price to $39.99 within the next few days, but won't bother to cancel the preorders of people who got in on the $29.99 price. This is the tiniest of tiny cult games on a last-gen system, I doubt there have been very many preorders anyway.
lobitoh
09-29-2008, 02:17 PM
has anyone have any success in canceling the order??
punkmaggit
09-29-2008, 02:21 PM
I bit. Rosenqueen has had some real quality stuff for awhile now and $40.00 + $5.xx S&H for a JRPG with all the fixin's? I'm sold.
buckythekat
09-29-2008, 03:05 PM
no email response so I called the customer service number
but apparently the guy with authority to cancel orders is in a meeting so they took my information down and said he'd call me when he gets back
Are we even sure Amazon will keep the $30 price? I have a feeling lot of people here will kick themselves for passing on this for only $8 more.
Personally, I'm short on cash, so with the near $20 disparity (a 61% markup) between Amazon and NIS pricing for a CD, I have to go with the former. If I want the OST later, I'll import the soundtrack (as it looks like that's where the entire tracklist is derived from). It looks as if the english release is missing content, as well (55/85). Mostly filler, but at least a few tracks of decent length.
work88
09-29-2008, 03:44 PM
I have yet to play my copy of the first one. Was it any good? =/
It felt alot like a SNES era RPG to me, but the battle system was so awful that it overshadowed alot of the positve aspects of the game.
buckythekat
09-29-2008, 03:47 PM
okay I actually just got the call back and the person (I believe her name was Shannon) was very helpful and canceled it without a hassle
I recommend anyone else looking to cancel their orders in favor of Amazon to call the customer service number instead of emailing
the number is 714-540-1185
and as noted on their website (Please do not be surprised if a NIS America customer service representative answers your call. RosenQueen is currently still under construction. NIS America will handle phone calls until completion. We apologize for the inconvenience.)
Asgardian
09-29-2008, 04:01 PM
Well, I just called the fucken assholes at RQ asking why media mail is not offered for this game, they said:
"It depends on the weight of the item, if it's over a certain weight, USPS would not allow us to send media mail."
I said: "lol, I've send media mail before and have never encountered a weight limit as such before..."
They said: "This limit is set by USPS, It's not us..."
I lol and hung up...
I don't work at USPS, but the usps.com online calculator indicate a max weight of 70 lb for media mail... unless this game comes with a fucken suit of armor or something, I'd bet it's not going to weight more than 70lb...
Amazon for me it seems... NISA/RQ are fucken assholes - once again only interested to rip off their fans...
NolbertoS
09-29-2008, 04:41 PM
Well, I just called the fucken assholes at RQ asking why media mail is not offered for this game, they said:
"It depends on the weight of the item, if it's over a certain weight, USPS would not allow us to send media mail."
I said: "lol, I've send media mail before and have never encountered a weight limit as such before..."
They said: "This limit is set by USPS, It's not us..."
I lol and hung up...
I don't work at USPS, but the usps.com online calculator indicate a max weight of 70 lb for media mail... unless this game comes with a fucken suit of armor or something, I'd bet it's not going to weight more than 70lb...
Amazon for me it seems... NISA/RQ are fucken assholes - once again only interested to rip off their fans...
I agree. I was initially hesitant to buy it, but want the extra goodies. Wish Amazon, would make a deal with Atlus and NISA and buyout RQ.com or integrate with amazon.com. Amazon is more reliable, and doesn't make up excuses to increase the price like RQ is doing.
I will predict that Amazon will raise their price to $39.99 within the next few days, but won't bother to cancel the preorders of people who got in on the $29.99 price. This is the tiniest of tiny cult games on a last-gen system, I doubt there have been very many preorders anyway.
Your prediction came true. Amazon has jacked up the price, and my preorder stands at $30.
NolbertoS
09-29-2008, 05:18 PM
Your prediction came true. Amazon has jacked up the price, and my preorder stands at $30.
Amazon will honour your $30, but anybody that orders after the price went up and wished to have it for $30 and tries to convince Amazon otherwise is SOL.
Crap, I missed it. Oh wellz.
Ryuukishi
09-29-2008, 05:37 PM
Your prediction came true. Amazon has jacked up the price, and my preorder stands at $30.Well here's hoping the second part stays true. Amazon won't revise the price of an existing order upward, but they might cancel existing preorders and force us to reorder at the higher price. Fingers crossed.
Amazon doesn't seem to know what's going on with this game... I just noticed that the listing has been updated with the cover art from Ar tonelico 1. They also say that the game is made by Koei.
newlu
09-29-2008, 07:25 PM
I bit. I was number 12477. Seems like it numbers for AR2 started around 12000, so hopefully I'm the first 2000 :3
Wrong
My number was 114xx, so they are definitely selling out fast
artego
09-29-2008, 07:43 PM
Already picked up the Japanese version of the OST with all 78 tracks, and don't favor the art of the new girls compared to AT1, so went with the amazon order.
rainking187
09-29-2008, 08:09 PM
Wrong
My number was 114xx, so they are definitely selling out fast
Wow, my order was 119XX. Now I'm really getting worried. I guess simply preordering it the day it becomes available isn't enough anymore?
Ecofreak
09-29-2008, 08:47 PM
Wow, my order was 119XX. Now I'm really getting worried. I guess simply preordering it the day it becomes available isn't enough anymore?
Yay for niche titles selling well!
just ordered and my number is 125xx
Maromi
09-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Yay, so glad I went with Amazon. Hope it doesn't get canceled on me.
And there's no reason for RSQ to not offer media mail. The weight excuse is bullshit for a game that probably won't be anything over 15 oz. First-class mail would be unavailable for anything over 13 oz., but not media.
Also, the reason Amazon says Koei is because Koei does handle distribution of some NIS-published games. They also publish and distribute NIS titles in Europe.
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 09:30 PM
Did anyone else that ordered from Rosenqueen NOT get a confirmation email? I've received no confirmation from them at all, but I do have a screenshot of my receipt from after I placed the order... that and my Paypal has been charged.
Wrong
My number was 114xx, so they are definitely selling out fast
Crap... does anyone have a lower order number than this? I kinda want to get an idea of where we all stand. :cry:
NolbertoS
09-29-2008, 09:38 PM
Hey guys..
I just got a reply from the RQ support and they claim that I'm within the 2000 people, so I should be receiving a custom artbook. For the record I'm No. 119xx, and since the earliest number order on CAG is 114xx, I'd say that maybe between numbers 114xx - 134xxx is the cutoff for the limited artbooks, unless there's an earlier order number, than we can sorta have a range of who's receiving what. Thought I'd share that. Peace.
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Hey guys..
I just got a reply from the RQ support and they claim that I'm within the 2000 people, so I should be receiving a custom artbook. For the record I'm No. 119xx, and since the earliest number order on CAG is 114xx, I'd say that maybe between numbers 114xx - 134xxx is the cutoff for the limited artbooks, unless there's an earlier order number, than we can sorta have a range of who's receiving what. Thought I'd share that. Peace.
Did you call them or email them for that? My number's way up there, so if I get confirmation/denial, others might be able to know if the pre-order bonus is dead or not.
NolbertoS
09-29-2008, 09:41 PM
Did you call them or email them for that? My number's way up there, so if I get confirmation/denial, others might be able to know if the pre-order bonus is dead or not.
I e-mailed them yesterday and got the reply today. Wow, they're fast.
reicaden
09-29-2008, 10:06 PM
god damnit! i missed the 2999 amazon one :( gayness
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 10:31 PM
Here was my response. Very prompt, but not very helpful I'm afraid. :-(
"We are very sorry for any inconveniences. Unfortunately, we do not know where you stand, however, since the order was made fairly early, you should be qualified for this. We truly apologize for this inconvenience, and we thank you for your business with us."
I was in the 12XXX. I dunno what that means, but I wish I could get a more solid answer somewhere.
Ecofreak
09-29-2008, 10:41 PM
Given how easy it would be for RQ to print out more artbooks and CDs, it would be foolish of them not to give everyone who pre-ordered these bonuses given the hurt feelings and bad PR that would result.
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Given how easy it would be for RQ to print out more artbooks and CDs, it would be foolish of them not to give everyone who pre-ordered these bonuses given the hurt feelings and bad PR that would result.
Bad PR could also result from them flooding the market with these as well. Since they said that there would be a limited run of 2000 of these, a lot of the appeal stems from them not being available at any other time. Not sure what the backlash would be from that... maybe nothing, maybe something.
Shady3011
09-29-2008, 10:46 PM
god damnit! i missed the 2999 amazon one :( gayness
Your poor grammar isn't really helping you right now.
Vinny
09-29-2008, 11:41 PM
I emailed them a few hours ago to see if I ordered early enough to get the bonus soundtrack/artbook and this is the response I got just now (yeah, that was fast):
Dear Valuable Fan,
Thank you very much for purchasing from, RosenQueen.
We are very sorry for any inconveniences. Since you have ordered fairly early, you should be qualified to receive this item.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.
Hope to see you soon at RosenQueen.com.
Thank you very much for your continuous support.
Sincerely,
Merchant Monkeys
I love how the response. It sounds like they themselves don't know what they're talking about and just plan to randomly stick the bonus stuff in boxes.:roll:
GuardianE
09-29-2008, 11:52 PM
I emailed them a few hours ago to see if I ordered early enough to get the bonus soundtrack/artbook and this is the response I got just now (yeah, that was fast):
I love how the response. It sounds like they themselves don't know what they're talking about and just plan to randomly stick the bonus stuff in boxes.:roll:
lol, that was the response I got, verbatim.
buckythekat
09-30-2008, 12:06 AM
Well here's hoping the second part stays true. Amazon won't revise the price of an existing order upward, but they might cancel existing preorders and force us to reorder at the higher price. Fingers crossed.
Amazon doesn't seem to know what's going on with this game... I just noticed that the listing has been updated with the cover art from Ar tonelico 1. They also say that the game is made by Koei.
they tend to honor original orders
I've got Spin City season 1 preordered for $14 due to a mistake on the listing, then they bumped it up to $26 and I'm still getting it for $14
DragonSlayerX
09-30-2008, 12:27 AM
I ordered two copies of the RosenQueen AR Tonelico 2 so I should be getting everything. I ordered the first day I got the email from them indicating the bonus.
I'm still waiting for my Disgaea & Rhapsody through Media Mail. It hasn't been this slow for me before.
Maromi
09-30-2008, 12:36 AM
You know, all this confusion and ambiguity could be solved very, very easily. If the exclusive bonus SKU automatically went out-of-stock after 2,000 orders, there'd be no wondering. Then, they could just create a new listing for the game sans exclusive items. They don't even freaking know who's qualified, at this point. The hell is that shit?
If you guys don't receive that pre-order bonus, that's pretty damn shitty. How could they have so few of something and not know when there are none left to give away? Those responses saying that "you should be getting one" are ridiculous. You either are or aren't. They have this habit of being extremely vague and uncommunicative, leaving you wondering what the hell you'll get (as in the Disgaea 3 thing), or if you'll even get anything at all. I'm imagining for this bonus, you're going to have to wait until it actually comes in to know that you were too late. That shouldn't be the way it is.
It's not that difficult, RosenQueen.
buckythekat
09-30-2008, 12:42 AM
You know, all this confusion and ambiguity could be solved very, very easily. If the exclusive bonus SKU automatically went out-of-stock after 2,000 orders, there'd be no wondering. Then, they could just create a new listing for the game sans exclusive items. They don't even freaking know who's qualified, at this point. The hell is that shit?
If you guys don't receive that pre-order bonus, that's pretty damn shitty. How could they have so few of something and not know when there are none left to give away? Those responses saying that "you should be getting one" are ridiculous. You either are or aren't. They have this habit of being extremely vague and uncommunicative, leaving you wondering what the hell you'll get (as in the Disgaea 3 thing), or if you'll even get anything at all. I'm imagining for this bonus, you're going to have to wait until it actually comes in to know that you were too late. That shouldn't be the way it is.
It's not that difficult, RosenQueen.
they've done it before, with the Mana Khemia limited edition
not sure why they didn't now
SailorDaravon
09-30-2008, 12:44 AM
RQ has terrible and shoddy practices, I can't recommend not ordering from them enough. The two times I've ordered from them the games were packaged horribly and beaten up, and they're slow to respond to emails if at all. And when they do, they're generally not helpful, as seen above. Also charging when you order as opposing to when the item ships is something that doesn't cut it anymore in online shopping in fucking 2008.
It would take some sort of amazing bonus to get me to order from them again, and paying ridiculous shipping for a few pages of art and a CD weren't going to do it, and I'm glad I didn't know looking at the posts in here.
Antic
09-30-2008, 01:05 AM
I really don't have a problem at all with RQ. I order right away though when games show up for pre-order to avoid any sort of missing items. I've pre-ordered three things from them, all of which have gone through fine without a hitch. The only issue I have is shipping (since they're in CA), but that's been my fault for picking Media Mail each time and being impatient.
I'm not bothered by the up front charge either, and I think it's kind of better like that for me since I'd prefer to just pay it off right away than get hit with it a month away when I'm not thinking about it.
Vinny
09-30-2008, 01:12 AM
I kinda have to agree with them being deceptive.
I mean, if you're going to limit something to so many units... why not give us an indication as to when you run out? If you leave it on your page through the whole process, you're basically misleading people into thinking that they can still get the limited edition whatever because it's still listed on the page.
I've never had issues with them in the past but the excessive randomness in the recent preorder bonuses (Disgaea 3, the Disgaea DS/Rhapsody DS bundle, and now this) just makes me think that they're trying to sucker people into preordering for bonus which they may or may not get.
I mean hell, even they don't know who's getting it from the email responses.
I was playing with the cart and you could add 1,700+ copies to it. Does it mean there is still plenty with the bonus left?
I'd rather order on Thursday when the billing cycle restarts. finger crossed that they would still have the bonus by then.
Maromi
09-30-2008, 01:53 AM
I was playing with the cart and you could add 1,700+ copies to it. Does it mean there is still plenty with the bonus left?
I'd rather order on Thursday when the billing cycle restarts. finger crossed that they would still have the bonus by then.
I highly, highly doubt only under 300 people have ordered it. I don't think this is a SKU that will end when the items run out, so it might already be too late. It's tough to tell.
GuardianE
09-30-2008, 02:14 AM
I was playing with the cart and you could add 1,700+ copies to it. Does it mean there is still plenty with the bonus left?
I'd rather order on Thursday when the billing cycle restarts. finger crossed that they would still have the bonus by then.
As of 1:13am EST, you can place a maximum of 1700 copies in your cart. Don't really know what that means for all of us, but it's interesting.
Heck. Screw the billing cycle. I just placed an order and it's 125XX. I should be among the 2000 limit since the earliest order # posted earlier is 114XX. So mine should be around the 1,100th order.
For the record, the Mana Khemia Scholarship boxset which was limited to 1,000 units took about a week to sell out, I think.
Since this is my first time ordering from RosenQueen, do they email you when order gets shipped? Because I travel a lot on my work and I can tell other people to look out for it.
thelonepig
09-30-2008, 03:30 AM
I'm a bit surprised by all the hate for RQ. I've had nothing but good experiences every time I've ordered from them (I get plush prinnies as baby gifts). They've always been prompt with their email responses, friendly on the phone, shipping has been fast, and they've never charged me more than what it actually cost to ship.
Still, I can understand the complaints that others are giving.
As far as Ar Tonelico is concerned, my biggest complaint with the game was that it seemed to keep going on and on and on. I hadn't been more often faked out by "wait, it's not over yet"s since Albert Odyssey on the Saturn.
Fonic
09-30-2008, 11:20 AM
Since this is my first time ordering from RosenQueen, do they email you when order gets shipped? Because I travel a lot on my work and I can tell other people to look out for it.
I think so. It's been a while since I last ordered something from them but I seem to remember receiving notification when it shipped.
jererjerer
09-30-2008, 02:24 PM
so what's the deal with amazon's 29.99? would they jack up the price for those who got in at 29.99 to 39.99 or are they locked in at 29.99?
edit: nevermind-found the answer
so what's the deal with amazon's 29.99? would they jack up the price for those who got in at 29.99 to 39.99 or are they locked in at 29.99?
edit: nevermind-found the answer
Mind filling us in?
Ryuukishi
09-30-2008, 04:26 PM
It really just depends on what Amazon decides to do. I think it's fairly clear that this was not an intentional discount (since they typically show both the MSRP and the discounted price like this: "$39.99 $29.99"), but rather Amazon was just mistaken about what the MSRP of the game was supposed to be.
So, technically they would be justified in cancelling all of the $29.99 orders under their pricing mistake policy-- the same thing happened with Call of Duty 5 preorders last month when Amazon mistakenly listed the price as $19.99.
On the other hand, the magnitude of this mistake was much smaller than the Call of Duty situation, both in the amount of the price difference and the number of people who probably took advantage of it. So I think there's a good chance they'll just let it slide. But we won't truly know until we either get cancellation emails or the game ships.
But again, if Amazon does decide not to honor the $29.99 price, they won't change the price of an existing order. Once you place a preorder the price will only ever be revised downwards, not upwards. What they'll do instead is cancel the order entirely, forcing you to place a new order at the $39.99 price if you still wanted the game.
Vendetta
09-30-2008, 04:33 PM
I ordered one at the Amazon $29.99 price and one through Rosenqueen. I plan on canceling the RQ order if Amazon honors the $30 price, since the soundtrack isn't worth an extra $18 to me. If Amazon does cancel the $29.99 orders though, I think I'll stick with the RQ order, since an extra $8 or so for the extra soundtrack is a little more reasonable.
Maromi
09-30-2008, 05:43 PM
I have a feeling Amazon won't be canceling our 29.99 orders. For one, like an above poster mentioned, it's a 10 dollar difference, and two, it's a very niche game. I could be wrong, but mine hasn't been canceled or anything as of yet, and I hope it doesn't.
bojay1997
09-30-2008, 06:11 PM
Amazon is usually really good about honoring stuff like this. COD5 CE which was a $50 error is the only time I know of where they cancelled orders. If it's a $20 or less difference, I have always seen them honor it.
Layd Dly
09-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Ordered one from RQ, as amazon has raised their prices back up to 39.99. The sad part is that my first Ar Tonelico which i pre-ordered when it came out with the bonus SDTK is still sealed in my backlog. O well, its go in my RPG colleciton regardless.
groundskeeper
09-30-2008, 07:22 PM
It really just depends on what Amazon decides to do. I think it's fairly clear that this was not an intentional discount (since they typically show both the MSRP and the discounted price like this: "$39.99 $29.99"), but rather Amazon was just mistaken about what the MSRP of the game was supposed to be.
So, technically they would be justified in cancelling all of the $29.99 orders under their pricing mistake policy-- the same thing happened with Call of Duty 5 preorders last month when Amazon mistakenly listed the price as $19.99.
On the other hand, the magnitude of this mistake was much smaller than the Call of Duty situation, both in the amount of the price difference and the number of people who probably took advantage of it. So I think there's a good chance they'll just let it slide. But we won't truly know until we either get cancellation emails or the game ships.
But again, if Amazon does decide not to honor the $29.99 price, they won't change the price of an existing order. Once you place a preorder the price will only ever be revised downwards, not upwards. What they'll do instead is cancel the order entirely, forcing you to place a new order at the $39.99 price if you still wanted the game.
Well they did not cancel my Warrior's Orochi 2 Xbox 360 games that was priced wrong at $29.99, so I hope there is a good chance this will stay.
groundskeeper
09-30-2008, 07:23 PM
I ordered one at the Amazon $29.99 price and one through Rosenqueen. I plan on canceling the RQ order if Amazon honors the $30 price, since the soundtrack isn't worth an extra $18 to me. If Amazon does cancel the $29.99 orders though, I think I'll stick with the RQ order, since an extra $8 or so for the extra soundtrack is a little more reasonable.
I did the same as you:-)
placebo1
10-02-2008, 01:54 PM
Well, I just called the fucken assholes at RQ asking why media mail is not offered for this game, they said:
"It depends on the weight of the item, if it's over a certain weight, USPS would not allow us to send media mail."
I said: "lol, I've send media mail before and have never encountered a weight limit as such before..."
They said: "This limit is set by USPS, It's not us..."
I lol and hung up...
I don't work at USPS, but the usps.com online calculator indicate a max weight of 70 lb for media mail... unless this game comes with a fucken suit of armor or something, I'd bet it's not going to weight more than 70lb...
Amazon for me it seems... NISA/RQ are fucken assholes - once again only interested to rip off their fans...
I think RQ has confused Media Mail with First Class Mail. :-?
Maromi
10-02-2008, 09:37 PM
I think RQ has confused Media Mail with First Class Mail. :-?
Yep, they do.
appleyum
10-02-2008, 11:48 PM
so how do we know if we are 1 of the 2000? Is there a way to cancel the order if we are not?
Asgardian
10-03-2008, 03:33 AM
Well, the problem is I have never seem First Class offered at their site (have you?) and plus the fact is, RQ are FUCKEN ASSHOLES that continues to screw and rip off their fans... unless they have some freaken awesome bonus, I try to stay far away from them... unlike ATLUS, they show how they appreciate fans by sending replacement manuls, sound tracks, etc for free!!!
I think RQ has confused Media Mail with First Class Mail. :-?
edit: funny how fuck in caps don't get replaced... :D
foxhunt99
10-03-2008, 10:51 AM
WTF, I pre-ordered one from RQ, this game ships in December, they already charged my CC, do they always do that?
willardhaven
10-03-2008, 10:54 AM
Ordered one from RQ, as amazon has raised their prices back up to 39.99. The sad part is that my first Ar Tonelico which i pre-ordered when it came out with the bonus SDTK is still sealed in my backlog. O well, its go in my RPG colleciton regardless.
I'm not surprised, most people who played the first one don't want anything to do with this game.
Apologies for the incendiary comments, I get like this when it comes to Gust.
Nirron
10-03-2008, 11:12 AM
WTF, I pre-ordered one from RQ, this game ships in December, they already charged my CC, do they always do that?
They do; they charge your card when you make the pre-order, whereas places like Amazon charge when the game is shipped.
zuldane
10-03-2008, 11:17 AM
So I've never played the first Ar Tonelico. Are the two story lines connected? Or is this one separate?
So I've never played the first Ar Tonelico. Are the two story lines connected? Or is this one separate?
No direct connection but this one does occur in the same world but on different location. Basically on this planet the ground disappeared because of some major catastrophe and people can only live on remaining towers. But they have no contact with survivors of different towers.
ryosnk
10-03-2008, 12:43 PM
Is any store offering preorder specials for this game?
appleyum
10-03-2008, 05:56 PM
Ordered one from RQ, as amazon has raised their prices back up to 39.99. The sad part is that my first Ar Tonelico which i pre-ordered when it came out with the bonus SDTK is still sealed in my backlog. O well, its go in my RPG colleciton regardless.
Crap I need to double check mine. I don't even recall if I got any extras. However, for the first one you have to be on the reserve list in order to preorder for the extras.
appleyum
10-03-2008, 05:58 PM
From Merchant Monkey
Since we are still taking orders for this, you are within the limit.
So for those who want the extras you still have time.
Link127
10-06-2008, 08:24 PM
cheapest shipping is 8.25 for Priority, why is there no Media Mail option? at least less for Priority...
Equinox
10-07-2008, 03:09 AM
That shipping is killer. However i ordered it, I'm a sucker for preorder candy, i can't help it.
neckfurters
10-07-2008, 12:27 PM
Are the Tonelico games roguelikes like Izuna and Shiren for the DS? After playing and beating Shiren, I'm totally hooked on the genre so if Tonelico is like those games, then I'll definately purchase it. Wish I could have got it for $30 at Amazon though. Oh well.
Are the Tonelico games roguelikes like Izuna and Shiren for the DS? After playing and beating Shiren, I'm totally hooked on the genre so if Tonelico is like those games, then I'll definately purchase it. Wish I could have got it for $30 at Amazon though. Oh well.
It is not a rougelike.
jeffx
10-07-2008, 04:39 PM
It is not a rougelike.
is ANYTHING a rougelike?
oremites
10-07-2008, 05:00 PM
is ANYTHING a rougelike?
I've heard a lot of good things about Rouge Galaxy.
jererjerer
10-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Ar Tonelico is special because it's got that simdate element in a RPG setup-I don't think there's any other game I can recall off the top of my head that's going in the same direction (obviously if we look at a bunch of those JRPG that didn't get translated, there would be a few here and there, but most aren't quite in depth in terms of the simdate element and/or a decent RPG engine)
I like Rogue Galaxy because it's a real time hack and slash/RPG hybrid that's done in a really good manner-could he mean dungeon crawlers?
Maromi
10-07-2008, 05:53 PM
^ Only one I can think of that blends RPG and sim is Thousand Arms.
neckfurters
10-07-2008, 06:04 PM
I think he's being snarky about how the one guy who mispelled rogue. Anyway, the way you're describing it Jere, it sounds like it might be similar to a game called Wild Arms on the PS1. I'll keep my eye on Tonelico as it gets closer to release.
Fonic
10-07-2008, 06:12 PM
^ Only one I can think of that blends RPG and sim is Thousand Arms.
Man I loved that game way back when. And while they aren't as in-depth as that game, many games have elements of a dating sim in them. FF7 had the hidden affection points, and the Star Ocean series has the whole private actions leading to characters pairing up at the end. Same with Tales of Symphonia and the Growlanser games.
jererjerer
10-07-2008, 06:51 PM
Wild Arms is a great franchise-Ar Tonelico is fairly different though-dunno if you played the first one, but you'll see those two are two different beast-
Fonic-I was going to say growlanser/langrisser and the various Tales on there, but they are not quite on that Ar Tonelico-esque setup 'cuz with Ar Tonelico, you have more of a visual novel thing going on-in a sense, you have two components, one is the metagame with the traditional RPG element, and on the other hand, you get a fairly complex visual novel that could stand in it's own right
Maromi
10-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Don't confuse Wild ARMs with Thousand Arms. Thousand Arms is the RPG with the dating sim aspect. ;)
Dkellar
10-07-2008, 09:59 PM
Just ordered one. The cart will only let me add 1,405 copies, so there are still plenty left for those who still have not preordered.
Fonic
10-08-2008, 12:28 AM
Fonic-I was going to say growlanser/langrisser and the various Tales on there, but they are not quite on that Ar Tonelico-esque setup 'cuz with Ar Tonelico, you have more of a visual novel thing going on-in a sense, you have two components, one is the metagame with the traditional RPG element, and on the other hand, you get a fairly complex visual novel that could stand in it's own right
Yeah I know, I was just throwing them out there for those interested. You're right that Ar Tonelico is unique in its visual novel aspects, at least outside Japan.
Honestly, it's not even quite the same as Thousand Arms since that game had actual dates the player went on with the various girls complete with question and answer sessions and gift-giving whereas Ar Tonelico just has the player run through the linear cosmosphere sequences and then choose one of the three girls at the end.
jererjerer
10-08-2008, 09:19 AM
my bad-thought you were talking about wild arms-thousand arms, from what I remember, is more date sim whereas Ar Tonelico is on the side of visual novel with minimal choice (the cosmosphere has no alternate ending if I remember correctly-so one choice)
Anyhow, 'nuff fanboy-ism from me, can't wait till december when they ship Ar Tonelico 2
Ryuukishi
10-27-2008, 04:10 PM
The game has been pushed back to January.
http://www.nisamerica.com/news/20081024_2.html
On the plus side, the wording on the site seems to indicate that it's not too late to get the bonus soundtrack from RQ.
rarebucky
10-27-2008, 04:45 PM
Am I the only one that's being charged $10.42 for shipping?
zephie
10-27-2008, 05:13 PM
The game has been pushed back to January.
http://www.nisamerica.com/news/20081024_2.html
On the plus side, the wording on the site seems to indicate that it's not too late to get the bonus soundtrack from RQ.
I think that's a good move on their part. Considering that it was originally going to be released the same day as Persona 4, it was probably going to end up overshadowed.
Serpentor
10-27-2008, 05:49 PM
Ah, spacing out my expenditures, good news...
Ah, spacing out my expenditures, good news...
Unfortunately that is not how RosenQueen works. They already got my money :cry:
Yeah. They already got my money.
More precisely, they would have freakin' got my money for 3-4 months by the time the game comes out. Way outside any banking institution's dispute window if they decide to keep the money and run.
aegisol
10-28-2008, 12:37 AM
The Rosenqueen Company aren't the type of guys to do that :(
Promophile
10-28-2008, 01:00 AM
Yeah. They already got my money.
More precisely, they would have freakin' got my money for 3-4 months by the time the game comes out. Way outside any banking institution's dispute window if they decide to keep the money and run.
It's the official store of the company that's making the game. I think your money's safe bud.
Nirron
10-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Well, guess that adds another few weeks I have to hope Amazon will honor my initial pre-order of 29.99
Vinny
10-28-2008, 01:13 AM
Great... good thing they already have my money.:roll:
Slade
10-28-2008, 03:35 AM
The game has been pushed back to January.
http://www.nisamerica.com/news/20081024_2.html
On the plus side, the wording on the site seems to indicate that it's not too late to get the bonus soundtrack from RQ.
Works for me.
Now I've got games queued up for my time from now till Janurary instead of December.
As far as Rosenqueen running away with our money... I highly doubt it. Although I do have some gripes with the way they do business, I've never have them not honor a particular order I've made with them.
Ecofreak
11-09-2008, 11:06 PM
For those who pre-ordered the game from Amazon.com, I just received an e-mail saying that I needed to approve the transaction on account of the delay by Dec. 9th -- otherwise, they would cancel my pre-order.
Just a friendly FYI.
Serpentor
11-09-2008, 11:58 PM
Oh yeah, i got that e-mail too... Just went to my order history and approved the delay.
Sorry to hear that some of you were already charged by RosenQueens :(
UberNinjaz
11-10-2008, 12:39 AM
Good thing it was delayed, would have been overshadowed by Persona 4 & the rest of the current-gen blockbusters this fall & winter.
Ski Hawk
01-13-2009, 09:34 PM
The only reason I didn't post this earlier is because I was on the fence and didn't want other people ordering and running out the stock ;)
Anyway, Ar Tonelico 2 will normally come with the game, OST, and artbook at all retailers, but if you preorder at Rosenqueen, you will get a bonus OST with 31 songs not included in the regular OST (that's right, TWO OSTs!) That's 55 songs total! At only $40 (although shipping is $7) you can't go wrong. I placed an order. (Although there's a good chance I won't play the game).
There's only 40 units left, so hurry!
http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=271
wampa8jedi
01-13-2009, 09:37 PM
I've got an Amazon pre-order locked in at $29.xx, otherwise I'd be tempted...
Ski Hawk
01-13-2009, 09:43 PM
Whoa, this was a month and a half old, didn't know there was already a thread :D
kosmos13x
01-13-2009, 09:58 PM
yah i preordered on slot 77 left yesterday. Getting an extra artbook and OST (with the already included artbook and ost) is a wonderful deal for a budget priced ps2 game.
addicted2games
01-13-2009, 10:03 PM
I ordered one even though my backlog is neverending.
shivaedge
01-13-2009, 10:04 PM
Wow, I pre-ordered this like 4 months ago. I guess I'm guaranteed the bonuses then.
JCDenton
01-13-2009, 10:17 PM
$7.20 shipping kind of kills the allure of this. You'd think they could offer a cheaper shipped price than amazon since the middleman is cut out.
Maromi
01-13-2009, 10:24 PM
yah i preordered on slot 77 left yesterday. Getting an extra artbook and OST (with the already included artbook and ost) is a wonderful deal for a budget priced ps2 game.
Don't be fooled by the extra "artbook." I believe it's just the booklet that comes with the OST.
newlu
01-13-2009, 10:32 PM
Wow, I pre-ordered this like 4 months ago. I guess I'm guaranteed the bonuses then.
Me too :rofl:
I pre-ordered it on 9/27/2008. :bouncy:
I'm a sucker for pre-order bonuses.
slidecage
01-13-2009, 11:57 PM
48 bucks shipped for a ps2 game
way overpriced
TheMaidenOfSorrow
01-14-2009, 12:44 AM
So, uhh...any stores offering bonuses? I see amazon and ebgay have "ar tonelico 2 premium", but they dont mention anything about bonuses. Unless, premium is part of the games name? :|
jererjerer
01-14-2009, 12:48 AM
the premium package, I think, is just the normal version with that extra disc and whatnot; the preorder bonus, on the hand, is that extra ost that is offered by Rosenqueen
TheMaidenOfSorrow
01-14-2009, 12:53 AM
oh cool. thanks. :)
Squarehard
01-14-2009, 01:15 AM
wish i had the money for this
reicaden
01-14-2009, 02:18 AM
I preordered this at amazon AGES ago... like... september 9th or something crazy. 29.99 is hard to beat... ALOT better thrn 48.99 shipped from Rosen (IMO), fingers crossed, it should bring the artbook which is all i wanted aside from the game itself!
kazunori
01-14-2009, 02:29 AM
I preordered this at amazon AGES ago... like... september 9th or something crazy. 29.99 is hard to bear, fingers crossed, it should bring the artbook which is all i wanted aside from the game itself!
I'm pretty sure the artbook is part of the entire "premium" package and isn't a pre-order bonus, so you have no worries there.
Unless you're referring to the art book (which probably isn't much of one) that comes with the pre-order bonus soundtrack.. in which case you won't be getting it anyway cause it's a Rosenqueen exclusive.
dmljr
01-14-2009, 02:41 AM
here are the exclusive items from rosenqueen 20 left
31 songs that aren't included in the Original Soundtrack
12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection
everyone else gets just
Ar tonelico® 2: Melody of Metafalica
Ar tonelico® 2: Official Art Collection
Ar tonelico® 2: Original Soundtrack(This product will be purchasable at any retailer)
Vinny
01-14-2009, 02:53 AM
here are the exclusive items from rosenqueen 20 left
31 songs that aren't included in the Original Soundtrack
12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection
everyone else gets just
Ar tonelico® 2: Melody of Metafalica
Ar tonelico® 2: Official Art Collection
Ar tonelico® 2: Original Soundtrack(This product will be purchasable at any retailer)
I don't know it was worth it though... $18 for 12 more pages in a tiny artbook and some soundtrack CD..?:-k
Oh well, not like it's still $30 at Amazon.
addicted2games
01-14-2009, 08:27 AM
Down to 12 left.......................
mowmow
01-14-2009, 01:40 PM
sold out =O
Me too :rofl:
I pre-ordered it on 9/27/2008. :bouncy:
I'm a sucker for pre-order bonuses.
Me 3.
They already had my money 4 months ago :-#
kosmos13x
01-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Finished Ar Tonelico today (as in seeing all 7 endings). I'm pumped for AT2 now. After that my plan is to start Mana Khemia (and to get ready for the sequel release later this year), then A-6 through A-8. Then after that play through Persona 4 again, then some other SMT games.
All this while managing a successful adult wow guild and dab into SMT:IMAGINE...life is tough ;)
Vinny
01-15-2009, 06:44 PM
Finished Ar Tonelico today (as in seeing all 7 endings). I'm pumped for AT2 now. After that my plan is to start Mana Khemia (and to get ready for the sequel release later this year), then A-6 through A-8. Then after that play through Persona 4 again, then some other SMT games.
All this while managing a successful adult wow guild and dab into SMT:IMAGINE...life is tough ;)
Doesn't sound like you have a life... not a real one anyone. Loser.:-P
(I kid because I love.;))
mowmow
01-15-2009, 11:38 PM
strange did anyone else get a shipping confirmation? apparently it shipped out for me today
Ski Hawk
01-15-2009, 11:49 PM
strange did anyone else get a shipping confirmation? apparently it shipped out for me today
I did too, odd because it doesn't come out until the 20th. I guess they can do that cause it's straight from the source.
mowmow
01-15-2009, 11:53 PM
I did too, odd because it doesn't come out until the 20th. I guess they can do that cause it's straight from the source.
I wasn't expecting it to be shipped out so fast either, now i gotta beat wild arms 5 before it comes.
DragonSlayerX
01-16-2009, 12:25 AM
I ordered 2 so they should be coming soon for me. :)
I'm a sucker for these pre-order bonuses.
kosmos13x
01-16-2009, 12:57 AM
mine shipped. probably be here sometimes next week for me.
superdry
01-16-2009, 02:21 AM
I want to order the game off of Amazon, but does anyone else have this feeling that a week later Amazon is going to have a temp price drop on it?
I still have yet to play the first one almost 2 years after I bought it (I looked at the nice artbook)...damn backlog.
Vinny
01-16-2009, 02:39 AM
I want to order the game off of Amazon, but does anyone else have this feeling that a week later Amazon is going to have a temp price drop on it?
That's pretty much how I feel about any NIS or Atlus game as of late. It seems like only the really popular ones (Persona 4) don't drop in price right away.
Honestly though, I don't see this being rare by any means. The CAGs who got it for $30 are damn lucky though.
Raymond
01-16-2009, 05:37 AM
Dead! Out of stock.
dan13l858
01-16-2009, 07:22 AM
I want to order the game off of Amazon, but does anyone else have this feeling that a week later Amazon is going to have a temp price drop on it?
I still have yet to play the first one almost 2 years after I bought it (I looked at the nice artbook)...damn backlog.
Ha, i never opened the first printed of Ar Tonelico 2 w/art book but i did play the second print of the game. Not Bad.
Slade
01-17-2009, 12:30 AM
strange did anyone else get a shipping confirmation? apparently it shipped out for me today
Eh? I haven't gotten a shipped confirmation yet and I order way back in september. They took their sweet time shipping out the Mana Khemia set I preordered, I hope this one won't take as long to get here.
rainking187
01-17-2009, 07:57 PM
I don't know it was worth it though... $18 for 12 more pages in a tiny artbook and some soundtrack CD..?:-k
Oh well, not like it's still $30 at Amazon.
Just had to comment on this now, I got the game today (haven't opened it yet) but according to the back of the box the artbook that comes with the game is only 22 pages. Rosenqueen deal seems pretty good in retrospect, art collection with more than half the pages of the artbook, plus a CD with more tracks than the one with the game. Not bad imo.
Vinny
01-17-2009, 08:42 PM
Just had to comment on this now, I got the game today (haven't opened it yet) but according to the back of the box the artbook that comes with the game is only 22 pages. Rosenqueen deal seems pretty good in retrospect, art collection with more than half the pages of the artbook, plus a CD with more tracks than the one with the game. Not bad imo.
That's weak. I ordered mine like the same day this was posted and I haven't even gotten a shipment notification (my account shows it in 'preorder' status).
shivaedge
01-17-2009, 09:19 PM
Yay, my order came in this afternoon as well. I didn't get any shipping confirmations, though.
newlu
01-17-2009, 10:47 PM
My order came in today, but I DID NOT receive the extra artbook!!
I did receive the OST though.
Is the extra artbook the tiny booklet that comes with the OST??
appleyum
01-20-2009, 12:36 PM
My order came in today, but I DID NOT receive the extra artbook!!
I did receive the OST though.
Is the extra artbook the tiny booklet that comes with the OST??
Does it look anything like this?
http://www.nisamerica.com/images/email/at2_rqbonus.jpg
According to their website
http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=271&DC=O14NN
Includes :
Ar tonelico® 2: Official Art Collection
Exclusive:
12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection
jacknicklson
01-20-2009, 01:07 PM
The artbook is just part of the exclusive soundtrack
GuardianE
01-20-2009, 01:23 PM
My order came in today, but I DID NOT receive the extra artbook!!
I did receive the OST though.
Is the extra artbook the tiny booklet that comes with the OST??
You didn't receive the extra artbook? When did you order? I'm starting to get worried.
jacknicklson
01-20-2009, 01:33 PM
Worried about what, newlu has to look in his soundtrack for the extra 12 pages
kosmos13x
01-20-2009, 01:44 PM
If you got the extra OST you got the extra 12 page artbook. Check inside the jewel case.
erehwon
01-20-2009, 02:25 PM
I got mine today. I had both soundtracks and the art book. I'm not sure when I'll get around to playing it though. I'm wanting to track down the first one.
Ryuukishi
01-20-2009, 03:40 PM
Anyone have their order from Amazon ship yet?
Layd Dly
01-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Hopefully mine is on my step at home, even though i wont play it anytime this century. But im at least one step closer to having a complete PS2 RPG Collection.
HaLLuZiNaTiOnZ
01-20-2009, 06:57 PM
If you got the extra OST you got the extra 12 page artbook. Check inside the jewel case.
Heh, was about to complain about not getting the 12 page art book since I ordered it in September, but ya, I guess its in the extra OST. Expected more, though. Just got it today.
Funny I have both this and the original, both with art book, and haven't played either. :lol:
Ski Hawk
01-20-2009, 07:29 PM
I got mine today, although I probably won't be playing it anytime soon.
Layd Dly
01-20-2009, 08:19 PM
Heh, was about to complain about not getting the 12 page art book since I ordered it in September, but ya, I guess its in the extra OST. Expected more, though. Just got it today.
Funny I have both this and the original, both with art book, and haven't played either. :lol:
QFT...
I keep telling myself that i will play all my games some day. :-#
punkmaggit
01-21-2009, 01:15 AM
Got mine today as well!! .... but I don't want to open it. I think I may have a problem!
Slade
01-21-2009, 01:13 PM
Just for an FYI- the game isn't working on the 80GB PS3(Software Emulation) with the latest firmware, 2.60.
Same problem with Mana Khemia where you start the game and you end up with a black screen. I hear it's working on the 60GB hardware emulation but then again, what doesn't?
Although Mana Khemia was eventually patch fixed on a firmware and began working on software emulation but there's no telling when Ar Tonelico 2 will be so I say be mindful of this if you're going to get the game without having a ps2 and you plan to play on a software emulation PS3.