Fall 2008 Nintendo Press Conference- MEGATONS DROPPED! DSi, Punch-out!!, Sin & Pun. 2

[ChibiJosh]

gifts:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/wii.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/ds.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/dsi.html

What's the game in the Wii video right before Guitar Hero Aerosmith?

"Fellaciate?"

It means to "felate oneself while sticking as many fingers as possible up your bum as possible and sniffing them"

Don't urbandictionary me, kid

[Cao Cao]

gifts:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/wii.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/ds.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/dsi.html

Punch-Out, Trace Memory, and Taiko no Tatsujin for the Wii look awesome

EDIT: !!! Endless Ocean 2!

[eliter1]

can download directly to SD

Unless the Wii is updated to support SDHC there is still only a 2GB cap which isn't a whole lot IMO

[smelly]

Either everyone has gone home.. or Shigsy is getting carried away demoing wii music again..

[The Crotch]

What was the game at the very end of the Wii video Rolento posted?

[smelly]

Either everyone has gone home.. or Shigsy is getting carried away demoing wii music again..

Or shigsy got so carried away demoing wii music again that everyone has gone home.

[JJSP]

Rereleasing 'Cube games for the Wii? Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeee.

[ProfWho]

gifts:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/wii.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/ds.html?n10

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/dsi.html

If you notice at the end of the video, Sin & Punishment 2 is being done by Treasure

[ChibiJosh]

What was the game at the very end of the Wii video Rolento posted?

That's that new Vanillaware game, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboro_Muramasa_Youtouden

[KingBroly]

No one's excited about Mario & Luigi 3?

EDIT: PUNCH OUT IS HAND DRAWN! I think
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13038732&postcount=1690

[Cao Cao]

What's the game in the Wii video right before Guitar Hero Aerosmith?

It's that Argonauts game from Tecmo, I think.

[BlueSwim]

Was that a new Wario Ware DS game in this video (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/ds.html?n10) near the end? HOLY SHIT!!!

[ChibiJosh]

No one's excited about Mario & Luigi 3?
I don't think that was real.

[RelentlessRolento]

I know I'm alone but I'm looking very forward to Valhalla Knights.

[Strell]

What in the fuck is that space game in the Wii video???

Also, Punchout looks SPECTACULAR.

[smelly]

been quiet for 30 mins now.. they've all gone home

[SpazX]

I don't think that was real.

I just saw it on the video, so it's very much real and very much awesome.

[ChibiJosh]

I just saw it on the video, so it's very much real and very much awesome.

Oh, really? Excellent. I didn't watch the DS video yet.

[The Crotch]

That's that new Vanillaware game, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboro_Muramasa_YoutoudenHeh. The very first thing I thought when I saw that was, "Hey, that's a funny looking Odin Sphere..."

Badass. This sure as hell exceeded my expectations. Of course, I expected the whole thing to basically just be Iwata stepping out on stage and saying, "Dear investors. Enjoy the enormous bag of money that is under your seat. If you need more, we've left a solid gold prostitute in each and every one of your hotel rooms that can melted into bullion should the need arise. Thank you, and goodnight."

EDIT:I know I'm alone but I'm looking very forward to Valhalla Knights.

Perhaps I don't know enough not to look forward to it, but I think it looks rather good...

[Cao Cao]

I don't think that was real.

It's in the DS compilation video that RR posted, and it looks awesome. Way better animation than the GBA game.

[Cao Cao]

Hey! In that DS video, they're making a new Warioware Touched!, and 3-D Picross!

[spoo]

Was that a new Wario Ware DS game in this video (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/mov/ds.html?n10) near the end? HOLY SHIT!!!

I didn't see it... Edit: NM it was right after Mario and Luigi 3

I don't think that was real.
I'm guessing it is because it is in the above video.

[ProfWho]

The music demo is over.

There was much rejoicing.

[FriskyTanuki]

Crappy Screens of the new Punch Out:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.nintendowiifanboy.com/media/2008/10/punchoutlg2.jpg

And Sin and Punishment 2:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.nintendowiifanboy.com/media/2008/10/sandpunishmenttwolg.jpg

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/02/sin-and-punishment-2-and-other-third-party-gems-confirmed/
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/02/nintendo-unveils-new-punch-out-for-wii/

[Kaijufan]

IGN:Wii Music demonstration ends.

[ChibiJosh]

I'm guessing it is because it is in the above video.

Thanks for being the 3rd person to point that out.

Does anyone know what this ノスタルジオの[some kanji I can't make out] is?

Edit: found it http://www.tecmo.co.jp/product/nostalgeo/ I want it.

[spoo]

I don't like how brown Wii Punch Out! is.

[Strell]

Little Mac sure lost all that weight quick. Captain Rainbow is a better hero than I thought.

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't like how brown Wii Punch Out! is.


Next Gen

[ChibiJosh]

Little Mac sure lost all that weight quick. Captain Rainbow is a better hero than I thought.
He's the best.

[KingBroly]

Little Mac has also pulled a reverse Michael Jackson on us!

[FriskyTanuki]

Little Mac sure lost all that weight quick. Captain Rainbow is a better hero than I thought.
He's been playing Wii Sports Boxing for two straight years.

[RelentlessRolento]

croissants? It must be plot heavy...

http://www.benzale.com/images/punchout3_5.JPG

[BlueLobstah]

What in the fuck is that space game in the Wii video???


My Japanese is probably pretty bad, but I think it's Cosmic Walker?

[spoo]

croissants? It must be plot heavy...

http://www.benzale.com/images/punchout3_5.JPG

No, it's just that everyone wants to punch the French ;)

[Strell]

While I highly doubt this, it would be nice if the NoA conference revealed some different information. For example - who is publishing The Conduit. That was promised to us weeks ago.

Not to mention these fabled FPS Zelda games. I mean wtf is Retro doing? I'd like to know.

[FriskyTanuki]

What's the DS game with Reggie, Iwata, and Shiggy in it?

[RelentlessRolento]

While I highly doubt this, it would be nice if the NoA conference revealed some different information. For example - who is publishing The Conduit. That was promised to us weeks ago.

Not to mention these fabled FPS Zelda games. I mean wtf is Retro doing? I'd like to know.


well, alot of retro's head people left and are now under EA, so who knows.

[SpazX]

Well I'm goin to sleep, I think it's over, not a bad conference. I guess I'll have to figure out whether or not to get a DSi...

[Strell]

well, alot of retro's head people left and are now under EA, so who knows.

Three of their people left and formed Armature. I'll take your word for it that Armature is owned by EA.

Still I wanna know what they are doing.

[Cao Cao]

What's the DS game with Reggie, Iwata, and Shiggy in it?

Tomodachi Korekushon, or "Friend Collection"

[dmunkee]

Finally caught up to all of this stuff.

I've creamed my jeans.

[Strell]

Oh yeah - what's this one game that seriously looks like a 2D de Blob? It's just after the midway point on the Wii video.

There's also a game shortly after that that looks like Stretch Panic meets....hmmm what was it called...it was a PS1 game....like Pon Pon or something. You beat people up in a tiny arena.

[BlueSwim]

This conference will make or break the hardcore gamer support for the Wii and Nintendo knows it. They know they need to get the hardcore interested in the Wii soon or they'll lose out on that smaller(yet very profitable) market to the 360 or the PS3.Nintendo had it's hand forced by how bad the E3 reaction was. Look at how Iwata apologized for how bad their E3 presser was for core gamers and the way Miyamoto announced Pikmin 3 so matter-of-factly, it was all because of the negative reactions they got from the core market. I believe Nintendo knows they have to give the core fan-base something to look forward to tonight/tomorrow or the reaction for this event will be even worse than E3.

I said the above earlier and I think Nintendo delivered enough tonight to avoid a repeat of the E3 reaction they got. Good job Nintendo. Now on to the U.S. event.

[eliter1]

Oh yeah - what's this one game that seriously looks like a 2D de Blob? It's just after the midway point on the Wii video.

Was asking myself that same question.

I am stunned that there is no kid Icarus announced. So that pedometer thing will function kind of like the ipod and Nike+? That's what it looks like from the video.

[Strell]

I think Nintendo delivered enough tonight to avoid a repeat of the E3 reaction they got. Good job Nintendo.

*high five*

[Strell]

I am stunned that there is no kid Icarus announced.

I'm 100% sure KI is never seeing the light of day at this point. The window of opporunity to announce it among Brawl hoopla has long since faded.

Granted, in addition to Retro, wtf is Factor 5 doing right now?

[BlueLobstah]

Point being, don't promise us glazed donuts with sprinkles on top and then serve chocolate covered poop on a stick.

It may look pretty because its got chocolate all over it, but on the inside its still crap.

On that note, I can finally go sleep now.

[BlueSwim]

*high five*


*Jumps up on table and dances* They did it. They really did it.

[eliter1]

I thought I saw Disaster day of crisis on the Wii video? Did I?

[bardiya27]

Point being, don't promise us glazed donuts with sprinkles on top and then serve chocolate covered poop on a stick.

It may look pretty because its got chocolate all over it, but on the inside its still crap.

On that note, I can finally go sleep now.

Punch-Out, Sin And Punishment 2.

[Strell]

Hmmm. Curious. If you watch Animal Crossing, the little characters have dialogue bubbles appearing over their heads.

I wonder why that is given the Wii Speak feature? Probably like the Brawl taunt system for people who don't get WS.

Edit: Bardiya, I think Blue meant E3, not this conference just now.

[FriskyTanuki]

I think I saw Endless Ocean 2 in the Wii video, as well.

[KingBroly]

Comparing Nintendo's E3 and this conferences, this one gets a 15/10 by comparison. In actuality, it gets a 7.5/10 because I think some stuff is lost in translation, and a good chunk of stuff won't hit here.

I really want to see something cool at the American event tomorrow for us US Nintendo fans, like say...2d Metroid game for the DS or Wii Ware. Four Swords Adventures on Wii Ware with 4-player Wifi with WiiSpeak support.

[Strell]

Endless Ocean 2 will need to support Wii Speak, but with a "you are talking underwater" filter.

That would be stupidly awesome.

[crystalklear64]

... why won't they make stuff I'd actually spend money on?

[Strell]

Didn't you buy Crysis?

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[crystalklear64]

No, I have the demo though does that count?

Oh and off course the addendum of Captain Rainbow in that previous statement.

[Strell]

I think it does, actually. :]

[FriskyTanuki]

You can pet fish in Endless Ocean, right? How about if you rub the dolphin in the right spot, he tries to has his way with you?

[crystalklear64]

Also, I haven't watched the conference, but the is a 2D version of de blob coming out according to the egm mag i was reading earlier, so it might have been.

[Strell]

You can pet fish in Endless Ocean, right? How about if you rub the dolphin in the right spot, he tries to has his way with you?

La Grunta!

Also, I haven't watched the conference, but the is a 2D version of de blob coming out according to the egm mag i was reading earlier, so it might have been.

There's something that looks like a 2D de Blob showing up. No clue what it actually is at the moment.

[KingBroly]

Eurogamer says the DSi only has 1 touch screen.

[BlueSwim]

You can pet fish in Endless Ocean, right? How about if you rub the dolphin in the right spot, he tries to has his way with you?


Wouldn't that be Chad Concelmo (http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/index.phtml?a=4536): The Video Game? AMAZING!!! BEST WEEK EVER!!!

[Cao Cao]

Well, it's been a fun conference everyone. Though those few minutes before the conference were touch-n-go, we ended up getting plenty of excellent announcements, new game revealings, and confirmations. More than enough to keep both DS and Wii fans satisfied until 2009 comes around. It was fun going through the updates on Gemaga, and then checking IGN, GameKyo, and Kotaku for clarification. Everyone, thanks for following along in the topic during the whole event, and I hope that the San Francisco event tomorrow will also be good. (Though from the sound of things, Nintendo was using the Tokyo event for the big announcements, with the US event serving as a demo center) Well, time to update the OP.

Definitely can't wait for:
Punch-Out!
Endless Ocean 2
Trace Memory R
Sin and Punishment 2
Cosmic Walker
Taiko no Tatsujin
Let's Tap

DSi (I'm planning to upgrade from my Phat if the price is right)
Mario & Luigi 3
Warioware Touched! 2
That 3d Picross game

[bigdaddy]

DSi sounds way too much, $180? They better keep the old DS then.

Why didn't they show this DS at E3? It's the same thing but would have given Nitnendo something.

[crystalklear64]

More than enough to keep both DS and Wii fans satisfied until 2009 comes around.
:lol: but really..:cry:

Of all the stuff they could have picked, they chose a boxing game...

If there's nothing new for the American side, its just a big disappointment. Nothing new coming out can or has matched the games from a year or two ago.

Combined with the massive resell value and the inevitable redesign, it just makes it even more tempting to get rid of the thing. I literally have 6 Wii games, and that's simply because those are the only games I consider high enough quality to be worth my time when comparing it to the PC or 360. Now those 6 games are great, so great that I think its worth having a Wii just for those 6, but 6 games in 24 months? Come on now. I would love to buy some new Wii games, but without the quality nintendo stuff like a new mario, zelda, kirby, starfox, etc. coming out any time soon, I just don't see it happening.

[dastly75]

Sin and Punishment 2 sweet...

[Rig]

I'm all for a new Punch-Out, but those screens look like shit.

And the talk of Mario & Luigi 3? You talkin' the Superstar Saga/Partners In Time series? (Can't watch the vids at the moment.)

[EXStrike]

And the talk of Mario & Luigi 3? You talkin' the Superstar Saga/Partners In Time series? (Can't watch the vids at the moment.)

Yup.

Don't know if posted already, but this is the list of games in the videos: (via GAF)

Wii

2008

Wii Music (Nintendo) 10/16
Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) 11/20
The Melancholy of Haruhi (Kadokawa Shoten) 11/27
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes (Capcom) 12/11
428 (Sega) 12/4
Samba de Amigo (Sega) 12/11
Let's Tap (Sega) Dec. 2008
Cooking Mama 2 (Taito) 12/4
Rygar: Muscle Impact (Tecmo) Dec. 2008
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (Activision) 10/16
Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson) 12/18
Sky Crawlers (Bandai-Namco) 10/16
Happy Dance Collection (Bandai-Namco) 10/23
Family Ski: World Ski & Snowboard (Bandai-Namco) 11/13
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile (Bandai-Namco) 12/4
Taiko Drum Master Wii (Bandai-Namco) 12/11
Tenchu 4 (From Software) 10/23
Harvest Moon: Exciting Animal March (Marvelous) 10/30
Rune Factory Frontier (Marvelous) 11/27
Shape Boxing (Rocket Co.) 10/30

2009

Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) Spring
Start w/ 100 Conversations! English Conversation (Nintendo) 2009
Punch-Out!! (Nintendo) 2009
Trace Memory: R, Gateway of Memory (Nintendo) 2009
Kensax (Nintendo) 2009
Cosmic Walker (Nintendo) 2009
Spawn Smasher (Nintendo) 2009
Dynamic [illegible] (Nintendo) 2009
Takt of Magic (Nintendo) 2009
Sin & Punishment 2 (Nintendo) 2009
Forever Blue 2: Beautiful Ocean (Nintendo) 2009
Everyone's the Star on the NHK Red-and-White Quiz Battle (Nintendo) 2009
Line Attack Heroes (Nintendo) 2009
Castlevania: Judgment (Konami) Winter 2008-2009
Dead Rising: Zombies' Sacrifice (Capcom) Winter 2008-2009
FFCC: Echoes of Time (Square-Enix) 1/29
Sonic and the Black Knight (Sega) Spring
Fragile (Bandai-Namco) Winter 2008-2009
Arcrise Fantasia (Marvelous) Winter 2008-2009
Oboro Muramasa (Marvelous) Spring

DS

2008

Self-indulgent Fashion: Girls' Mode (Nintendo) 10/23
Know by Walking: Life Rhythm DS (Nintendo) 11/1
Kirby: Ultra Super Stars (Nintendo) 11/6
World Food: Talk! DS Food Navi (Nintendo) 12/4
Power Pro-kun Pocket 11 (Konami) 12/4
Mega Man Star Force 3: Black Ace/Red Joker (Capcom) 11/13
Valkyrie Profile (Square-Enix) 11/1
Chrono Trigger (Square-Enix) 11/20
Chocobo and the Magical Picture Book: The Witch, the Girl, and the 5 Warriors (Square-Enix) 12/11
Mysterious Dungeon: Fuuren no Shiren DS 2 (Sega) 11/13
Let's Make a Soccer Team DS: Touch and Direct (Sega) 11/27
Phantasy Star Zero (Sega) 12/25
Wind of Nostalgeo (Tecmo) 11/6
DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series 2 (Tecmo) 11/13
Momotarou Dentetsu 20th Anniversary (Hudson) 12/18
Tamagotchi's Sparkling Shop (Bandai-Namco) 11/27
Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie Edition/CG Movie Edition (Bandai-Namco) 12/11
Harvest Moon: Welcome to the Wind's Bazaar (Marvelous) 12/18
Avalon Code (Marvelous) 11/1
Prof. Layton and the Last Time Travel (Level 5) 11/27

2009

DS Fortune-Telling Life (Nintendo) 2009
Friend Collection (Nintendo) 2009
Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo) 2009
Made in Me (Wario Ware) (Nintendo) 2009
Solid Body Picross (Nintendo) 2009
Gyakuten Kenji (Capcom) 2009
FFCC: Echoes of Time (Square-Enix) 1/29
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Square-Enix) Winter 2008-2009
Shining Force Feather (Sega) Spring
Seventh Dragon (Sega) Spring
Infinite Space (Sega) Spring

[Cao Cao]

I'm all for a new Punch-Out, but those screens look like shit.

And the talk of Mario & Luigi 3? You talkin' the Superstar Saga/Partners In Time series? (Can't watch the vids at the moment.)

It looks good in motion. And yes, Mario and Luigi 3 is a part of the SSS/PiT series. GameKyo put up a mirror of the compilation videos if that would help.

DS: http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen13231_nintendo-conference-in-japan-nintendo-ds-games-video.html
Wii: http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen13230_nintendo-conference-in-japan-wii-games-video.html

[FriskyTanuki]

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5854/supankm1.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1116/supan2nc9.jpg

Is this the Wii game you were talking about, Strell? From what I can tell of the katakana, it's called Supaan Smasher or something like that.

Edit: IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915504p1.html)seems to have collected a list of the games in the montage:

Games shown in the above montage: Let's Tap from SEGA. 428 from SEGA. Family Ski World Ski and Snowboard from Namco / Bandai. Karaoke Joysound from Hudson. Taiko no Tatsujin Wii from Namco / Bandai. Tenchu 4 from From Software. Harvest Moon: Waku Waku Animal March from Marvelous. Rune Factory Frontier from Marvelous. And Shape Boxing Wii de Enjoyment by Rocket Company.

The montage also shows 2009 games from Nintendo: Wii Sports Resort. Punch-Out!! Another Code: R. Supaan Smasher. Dynamic Shin (working title). Tact of Magic. Kensakusu. Cosmic Walker (this game already looks amazing). Sin and Punishment 2. Forever Blue: Beautiful Ocean. NHK Quiz. And Line Attack Heroes. We repeat: these are all Wii games from Nintendo.

[Dr Mario Kart]

31 game montage (wii)/32 game montage (ds) - ZERO First Person Shooters http://forums.penny-arcade.com/images/smilies/icon_up.gifhttp://forums.penny-arcade.com/images/smilies/icon_heartbeat.gif

[gunm]

Hm, if they fix the turrible pathing in FFCC:EoT, I would be happy to pick that up.

Punchout could be cool with the improved Wiimotion add-on.

SD saves do sound promising, but what happened to that other storage device that the retailers have? I'd rather have that, I think.

Edit: hm, I wonder what's going to be shown when TGS actually starts?

[Cao Cao]

Yuji Naka's Prope studio updated their Let's Tap website:
http://prope.sega.jp/letstap/

Looks like a mini-game compilation controlled entirely with just the Wiimote's B button, judging by the position of the Wiimote. Catchy theme song on the web site.

LET'S-TAP LETSTAP, CHOOSE-YOUR-TAPPING-GAME.

[KingBroly]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13041328&postcount=2372

GC remakes mentioned:
- Pikmin 1 & 2
- Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
- Chibi Robo (In another post)
- Mart Tennis
- Metroid Prime 1 & 2

[Dr Mario Kart]

Thats wonderful. I never played any of the Pikmins or the Metroid Primes because of the controller.

I'm going to email Suda51 about remaking Killer7
http://www.grasshopper.co.jp/

[KaneRobot]

"Megatons" is stretching it.

They had better do this Punch-Out right, since they seem to be content to only give us one per decade.

[CombatCraig]

Good I'm tired of searching for Pikmin 2 on GC.

I'm no good with this time limit on Pikmin 1 lol

[vherub]

wow, there were more games than I expected

also that sd solution, finally! it should have been day 1, we still have to wait another x months
but i can start buying content again.

[BlueLobstah]

Punch-Out, Sin And Punishment 2.


I guess I should clarify that I was talking about the E3 vs. October conference.

I wonder if this was their plan all along however? Leave E3 alone and move all of their important announcements to October to increase hype and interest right before the holiday season. I can't say I agree with what they did at the E3 conference, but it would make sense to have important stuff near the end of the year in most likely the biggest shopping season.

I do question the DS not being released in the US before the holidays...

[UjnHunter]

I have a feeling the whole DL to SD card is just that.... Download... you'll probably still have to copy games to internal memory to play them... considering Nintendo's previous statements on copying them back & forth...

[dothog]

I'm so glad they included Chibi Robo in the "Enjoy with Wii" series. If they're revisiting GC greats, I wish they'd update Luigi's Mansion...or make an honest-to-god sequel...for the Wii.

[CouRageouS]

I do question the DS not being released in the US before the holidays...
Well the Lite launched in June and still sold like hot cakes, maybe they aren't worried. They're probably just going to bank on Wiis and Wii Fits this holiday since there doesn't seem like anything special coming.

[BlueLobstah]

Well the Lite launched in June and still sold like hot cakes, maybe they aren't worried. They're probably just going to bank on Wiis and Wii Fits this holiday since there doesn't seem like anything special coming.


I know it's going to sell regardless of what month its released, I just find the timing odd.

Found a bunch of additional screens on Famitsu: http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1218549_1124.html

[EXStrike]

has this been posted? http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081002/wiiss.htm

[The Crotch]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13041328&postcount=2372

GC remakes mentioned:
- Pikmin 1 & 2
- Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
- Chibi Robo (In another post)
- Mart Tennis
- Metroid Prime 1 & 2
I. Fuckin'. Love. You.

[EXStrike]

http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081002/dsss.htm

[KingBroly]

They should really put Pikmin 1 & 2 together, as well as Metroid Prime 1 & 2. Although it looks like they won't. At least not for Pikmin (probably because Pikmin 2 is rare as hell). MP1&2 in the same package would be awesome.

[Snake2715]

"Megatons" is stretching it.

They had better do this Punch-Out right, since they seem to be content to only give us one per decade.

It was last century actually!

I cant wait for punch out, but I am boxing fan.

Looks like I better dump my sealed Pikmin 2 then. I have yet to get through the first one.

[Ryuukishi]

(Without reading this whole thread first, so apologies if this has been discussed...)

Can someone explain what is "new" about the SD card storage announcement? You can already copy VC games to an SD card. And I understand that this announcement didn't say anything about being able to play them straight off the card rather than just using it as backup storage.

So what is it that was announced that's different from what we already know?

[eliter1]

(Without reading this whole thread first, so apologies if this has been discussed...)

Can someone explain what is "new" about the SD card storage announcement? You can already copy VC games to an SD card. And I understand that this announcement didn't say anything about being able to play them straight off the card rather than just using it as backup storage.

So what is it that was announced that's different from what we already know?

I am pretty sure you'll be able to play them on the SD card. Still kind of sucks since the Wii does not support SDHC.

[The Crotch]

I don't think we know just yet.

[BlueLobstah]

I assume for now that the "download to SD card" statement is a mistranslation, and they really do mean that games are playable directly from the SD card.

If not and they've only removed (or improved) the encryption techniques during the transfer to make them faster, I will be very disappointed in this so called "solution".

In any case, hopefully further clarification will be given at the press conference today in the US, so we'll have to wait and see.

[ChibiJosh]

They should really put Pikmin 1 & 2 together, as well as Metroid Prime 1 & 2. Although it looks like they won't. At least not for Pikmin (probably because Pikmin 2 is rare as hell). MP1&2 in the same package would be awesome.

As long as they release them for, at most, $30 (and ideally $20), I won't mind them releasing them separately.

[BlueLobstah]

As long as they release them for, at most, $30 (and ideally $20), I won't mind them releasing them separately.


I think it's going to be $30, which is perfect.


Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - 12/11 - 3800 Yen
Pikmin - 12/25 - 3800 Yen

[EXStrike]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html

NoA's turn

9:11: I'm sure a couple of you have read the news from Tokyo last night, Kaigler says. Yes. She introduces Reggie Fils-Aime to talk to us about that.
9:12: While today's show is mostly about games, Fils-Aime says, Nintendo unveiled the DSi last night. He holds one up. He's talking about the new features: It has built-in flash memory, and you can save downloadable games to that flash drive. A new service called Nintendo DSi Shop. Among the first games available on the Nintendo DSi Shop service will be redesigned versions of the two Brain Age games. Users will be able to experience these games anywhere, anytime, moments a day, every day. Will sit alongside all the features on the DSi menu, no cartridges necessary.
9:14: There are plenty of other competitors in a "red ocean" trying to make the best portable cameras and music players. Nintendo is just trying to make the DS the most fun for the most people possible.
9:15: The Nintendo DSi has not one but two different cameras. How you use these two cameras creates the difference. One will face forward from the hardware, the other points back at the user. A different range of photo functionality. Combined with onboard, real-time imaging software. Combine pictures. Distort faces. Graffiti.
9:16: The DSi can also serve as your music player -- but again, with differences. The DSi will use the AAC format, so you can move songs from computer to SD card. The DSi has built in software that allows the user to control pitch, speed of AAC files. You can put in an audio filter -- "You may have a piece of music where you want to listen to only the vocals, not the instrumentals." You can fast-forward through a podcast. Play different features sped up or slowed down. Record your voice in the microphone and change the playback speed/pitch of that. All of these options are available on DSi right out of the box.
9:18: Wanted to manage the weight and durability of the system while making it smaller. Hence, no Game Boy Advance game slot. (Still kind of sad.) This new addition to the DS family, says Fils-Aime, should be looked at as retaining great features and adding new functionality to make it a whole lot better.
9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/09/npd-nintendo-ds.html), Reggie!
9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."
9:22: Talking about holiday retail qualities for DS and Wii. "More Nintendo DS units into retail for Oct/Nov/Dec quarter than last year -- dramatically more." Also more Wii systems.
9:23: Will this be enough to meet demand? "Talk to me in January," Fils-Aime says. They are working hard to get to "the crossover" between supply and demand. They are in "uncharted territory" as far as how much hardware they're moving.
9:24: Cammie Dunaway takes the stage. "If I've learned anything in the past 11 months, it's that pleasing you guys takes showing you great games," she says while looking directly at me and Matt Cassamassina.
9:25: PUNCH OUT! CAMMIE SHOWS PUNCH-OUT. CAMMIE REDEEMED FOREVER. Available 1st half 2009 in the U.S. Punch out video reel. Oh my god, the music. The music. So awesome.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Maybe if it tanks in Japan, they'll decide to keep it there?

[BlueLobstah]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html

9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/09/npd-nintendo-ds.html), Reggie!



Fair enough. I guess expect to see a June/July release not unlike the DS lite?

9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."


Ugh. Someone needs to clarify exactly what this means. Stop bullshitting us Nintendo.

9:24: Cammie Dunaway takes the stage. "If I've learned anything in the past 11 months, it's that pleasing you guys takes showing you great games," she says while looking directly at me and Matt Cassamassina.


D'oh?

[sonderiaom]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html
9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/09/npd-nintendo-ds.html), Reggie!
9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."


DS is selling well so we won't get the bigger better one till we stop buying the older one?

And they still didn't clarify whether you're able to play directly off of the SD card or not, as it is, this sounds like they're just making it faster. If they were to take the Emulators out of all of the games that we buy on there, it'll be a much smaller strain on the internal memory.

[EXStrike]

DSi has two cameras, not one. =O

[munch]

Ugggh. I mean seriously. Let us use the SD card to store games on without having to transfer them.

[EXStrike]

9:51: SIN AND PUNISHMENT 2. Hits keep on coming. Confirmed for 2009 in North America. "After we saw how many people downloaded it on Virtual Console, we got the message that North America wants Sin and Punishment as well." "You're not going to have to import it," she says. Video time!


fapfapfapfpafpafpap

[BlueLobstah]

I should probably download Sin & Punishment...

9:53: Rhythm Heaven, first half 2009. YEEEEAAAAAH. "This game is pretty darn hard, and you can't put it down." "We think this has big potential in North America."

9:54: Dunaway about to show four "hard-edge" games. First is Age of Empires Mythologies, due November 2008. Second is Tecmo Bowl, same release month. Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia, available October 21. Chrono Trigger, holiday 2008. "Thanksgiving week."

9:55: Last live demo of the day. Fire Emblem DS. 1st half 2009. It's called "Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon." Ha ha, get it? It's "DS" backwards.

=O

My poor, poor wallet.

Nintendo likes my money confirmed.

[dmunkee]

Fire Emblem DS coming stateside? fuck YES.

[BlueLobstah]

9:51: SIN AND PUNISHMENT 2. Hits keep on coming. Confirmed for 2009 in North America. "After we saw how many people downloaded it on Virtual Console, we got the message that North America wants Sin and Punishment as well." "You're not going to have to import it," she says. Video time!


Earthbound on VC > Mother 3 in US? Please?

[The Crotch]

Fire Emblem DS coming stateside? fuck YES.
Was there ever any doubt?

[ChibiJosh]

Club Nintendo coming to US!

[BlueLobstah]

10:11: CLUB NINTENDO IS COMING TO NORTH AMERICA.

10:12: North American Nintendo fans have been "lusting after" Club Nintendo giveaways for a long time, she says. Yes. Will debut in America by the end of the year. Nice.


:hot: HOLY SHIT ON A STICK.

[dmunkee]

Was there ever any doubt?

Not since it was announced, but that certainly doesn't make me any less excited :D

EDIT: Club Nintendo sounds awesome, but I wonder how points or whatever will be set up? Through registered games?

[Snake2715]

yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...

[CombatCraig]

yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...

Yes that was the same question I have as well!

[ChibiJosh]

yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...

It better.

[FriskyTanuki]

So they waited until after all of their big Wii releases to start up Club Nintendo over here? :-(

Edit: I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but The Conduit's being published by Nintendo now.

[crystalklear64]

That club nintendo news is the best thing to come out of this. Good stuff to be had.

[The Crotch]

... and there was much rejoicing throughout the land.

[pygmy carnotaur]

Trace Memory Wii is a good announcement, and I'm sure I'll get it.... but seriously, Trace Memory over Hotel Dusk? It's not like the story from either one really leaves the door open for an obvious sequal after all, and a Wii Hotel Dusk would've been amazing. Maybe if Trace Memory Wii sells well enough they'll do it.

As for the rest of the stuff, Sin & Punishment 2, Endless Ocean 2, Punch-Out Wii, Mario & Luigi 3, and WarioWare are all great announcements. Why couldn't they have just shown some of this stuff at E3? Whatever, they've shown it now, and now I actually have stuff to look forward to again from Nintendo.

[lilboo]

Wait. Where is this Club Nintendo news?! What are they offering us?!
This whole potential storage solution is making me wet!!

If I have to re-download all the games...that would actually be OK with me!!
FINALLY!

And these game announcements are pretty hot! Sin & Punishment 2, though, :drool:

[Strell]

*wakes up*

Oh. Club Nintendo. That alone basically makes my day. Nice to see sales of S&P got to Nintendo's collective thick skull.

However, now the storage solution....doesn't seem like a storage solution at all. It sounds like they are saying "it'll now be easier to clean the fridge." This make Strell angry, want cry, want kill you all.

[lilboo]

I know! I'm waiting to hear how this will turn out. I mean, what's the point of downloading a game but DL'ing it directly to the storage card where you can't play it? :-k

Me thinks we will actually be surprised by this.

[Strell]

Hmmm. A Wii Speak channel, but it basically sounds like it is self-contained.

I wish there was a way to run that + something else. Then we really COULD have chatting during Brawl...even though that would require setting it all up before you fought.

It's just that now I see these 'Ware games that I hesitate because I imagine a version will show up with Speak capabilities. Tetris Party is a good example.

[Kaijufan]

Trace Memory Wii is a good announcement, and I'm sure I'll get it.... but seriously, Trace Memory over Hotel Dusk? It's not like the story from either one really leaves the door open for an obvious sequal after all, and a Wii Hotel Dusk would've been amazing. Maybe if Trace Memory Wii sells well enough they'll do it.


I agree, a Hotel Dusk Wii would of been better then Trace Memory, but I'm still looking forward to Trace Memory 2, the first game had great atmosphere and hopefully the developers will take what they learned from Hotel Dusk and apply it to TM2.

[ProfWho]

Nintendo better count all those games I have been registering for years and getting nothing for towards Club Nintendo. It would be a really crappy way to treat loyal customers if they didn't.

[Nohbdy]

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/02/cave-story-coming-to-wiiware-this-year/

Cave Story on WiiWare.

[ChibiJosh]

I'm sad they didn't announce an NA release of Captain Rainbow.

[io]

EDIT: Club Nintendo sounds awesome, but I wonder how points or whatever will be set up? Through registered games?

yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...

Yeah, when this goes live I expect to see a huge amount of "points" magically appear on my My Nintendo account due to the 60 or 70 games I have registered there ;). If it is only for new stuff, well, they can screw themselves. Just to be safe, though, I'll hold off on registering a few games I never got around to doing until more details emerge.

[The Crotch]

Yeah, I've held off on registering stuff for a while now...

[Strell]

Ok, let's get the disappointment out of the way now.

This is Nintendo we're talking about. Further, it is Nintendo of America, specifically.

These are the same people who - when asked about Club Nintendo relentlessly for the last several years - responded with "Oh, America is too big for us to adequately do the Club." As stupid as that sounded, it was made all the more stupid based on the fact that - recently - it's been suggested that the UK market is going to surpass the American one, even though the Club exists there already.

Now, given that astounding level of incompetence on the issue, do you guys really expect them to make this retroactive? Hell, I'm betting it's not even a timing thing - it'll be a product thing. So, for example, Wii Music MIGHT be included, but Wii Play/Mario Kart/Brawl/etc won't be.

Like I said, get the disappointment out of the way now. It'll make you feel better. Me? I'm already nailed toothpicks into my balls. The pain is slowly subsiding.

[DQT]

I'm not jumping for joy for the Club Nintendo announcement just yet. Wasn't Europe's version completely nerfed? Yay! I can now download official Mario wallpaper!!! Unless they start showing prizes I'm skeptical. I have quite a few unregistered games and a DS because it was so pointless. I really hope they get this right.

I was really curious as to what Cing and AlphaDream were up to after not hearing anything after E3. Glad to hear they're working on new projects.

[The Crotch]

Hmm. I'm assuming that my location isn't gonna be an impediment here. I could always just get the address of someone in North Dakota or some shit, but that would be damn annoying.

[Javery]

Are the re-released GCN games getting Wii support like Resident Evil 4 or are they literally re-releases on Wii discs? I might try Pikmin for $20 with Wii controls even though I played the crap out of it when it came out...

[BlueLobstah]

Yeah, when this goes live I expect to see a huge amount of "points" magically appear on my My Nintendo account due to the 60 or 70 games I have registered there ;). If it is only for new stuff, well, they can screw themselves. Just to be safe, though, I'll hold off on registering a few games I never got around to doing until more details emerge.


All of a sudden, I'm glad the only "game" I have registered is Twilight Princess. I probably have 15 Nintendo games that I could register once its actually up and running. I imagine we'll hear details within the next couple of weeks or so considering that this is supposed to be ready by the holidays.

I have a suspicion that this will be somewhere between Europe/Japan Club Nintendo. We might get a few of the little goodies that Japan has, but also receiving the influx of non-rewards that Europe has as well. Even if it is as bad as Europe, I guess something is better than nothing, and it'll be nice to convert stars to Wii Nintendo points.

Are the re-released GCN games getting Wii support like Resident Evil 4 or are they literally re-releases on Wii discs? I might try Pikmin for $20 with Wii controls even though I played the crap out of it when it came out...


One would assume that this is the case (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/presen/09.html), adding wide screen and Wii controls. Beyond that? Its anyone's guess.

[Rig]

Bah. I bet the crapton of games I have registered won't count for anything when Club Nintendo gets going over here. I (and a ton of others) will be pissed if that is the case.

[Javery]

One would assume that this is the case (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/presen/09.html), adding wide screen and Wii controls. Beyond that? Its anyone's guess.

Looks good. It is a brilliant idea - the Gamecube is one of my favorite consoles of all time with so many great games that never got the recognition they deserved. If they bring the same games out for the bigger Wii audience with widescreen and wiimote support they are going to rake it in... even more than they are already raking it in. This would position them nicely for the WiiHD or whatever comes next since people will have actually played some of the key franchises. They are in a unique position too because it's not like you can release a PS2 game for the PS3 and get away with it since people expect more out of a PS3 game in the looks department...

[Strell]

DK Jungle Beat DEFINITELY deserves more recognition.

Pikmin and Metroid are perfectly suited for the control scheme and wide screen.

Mario Tennis screams "we're out of ideas for Mario Tennis Wii."

Ha ha, wouldn't it be funny if Miyamoto was referring to these remakes when he talked about Pikmin shortly after the E3 debacle?

...

Of course fucking not.

[Ryuukishi]

Here's hoping we get full F-Zero and Wave Race updates rather than ports of GX and Blue Storm.

[dothog]

Ha ha, wouldn't it be funny if Miyamoto was referring to these remakes when he talked about Pikmin shortly after the E3 debacle?
As if there's any doubt he was fucking with us. Now he's flipping the media's tea tables...it's hilarious.

It'd be even funnier if we invited him to a tea party with actual tea tables and let him go apeshit. Biscuits and earl gray everywhere, mofos.

Also funny and just as awesome: announcing that you're working on Mother for the Wii when in fact it's Earthbound for the VC. I would be pissed right up until the moment they actually dumped EB on the VC.

[foltzie]

Well, they went the reasonable route by enabling the SD card slot for something useful...

Of course the devil is in the details, because already the SD slot "works". Of course if your definition of works is annoy the hell out of you with teases of functionality.

[lilboo]

So I'm looking for it, and being that I'm pretty much retarded I most likely missed it, but did they mention when this 'storage solution' would take place?..I hope it's universal and not just JPN.. :shock:

.....
Wait.

They mentioned this is for EVERYONE RIGHT? :shock: :wall: :pray:

[Strell]

I'm thinking it'll be part of a firmware upgrade.

Which they said they won't enact until Spring 2009.

....

Yeah.

[BlueLobstah]

Spring doesn't start until March. What's their rush?

[lilboo]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.
But I guess better late than never..even though it'll be like 2 1/2 years. Graaaah!~!

[foltzie]

I'm thinking it'll be part of a firmware upgrade.

Which they said they won't enact until Spring 2009.

....

Yeah.

See that kind of detail.

Among others.

[Strell]

Spring doesn't start until March. What's their rush?

Zing.

[Friend of Sonic]

So am I going to have to stock up on 2 GB SD cards or what? Nintendo, your system has a USB port. Let us buy hard drives, damn it.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

So am I going to have to stock up on 2 GB SD cards or what? Nintendo, your system has a USB port. Let us buy hard drives, damn it.

Yeah, it would be nice if the SD solution was the "official" Nintendo solution while they quietly enable USB hardrives as well (like their initial stealth keyboard support).

Anything is better than what we have, provided that they allow us to run games from the SD card which I assume is the case.

[dmunkee]

Yeah, I know in my heart that, being Nintendo, they wouldn't count your old registered games towards Club Nintendo Points.

Hell, being Nintendo, I'd imagine that with this stream of releases planned for the rest of the year into next, they figure that the "core gamer" will be happily buying so much crap (I know I will be) that we won't even need be worrying about something like that.

I think Nintendo looks at these conferences as their way of keeping us (the core gamers) off their backs for the time being. So they can get back to concentrating on the casual gamer market.

I also don't like that, after the announcements of their "storage solution", things are still up in the air as to how it actually works :-k

[007]

I reiterate, unless there's a HUGE speed issue running ANYTHING off the SD card, why do people keep asking for HDD support? A 2 gig SD card isn't expensive and has over 15000 blocks. Fifteen THOUSAND. If you're filling that up, then... wow. Just fucking wow.

... so, uh, is there a huge speed issue?

[The Crotch]

Even without the speed issue, I'm not sure if we can even play stuff off of the SD card or if they're just promising to help out with the fridge-cleaning.

[sonderiaom]

Even without the speed issue, I'm not sure if we can even play stuff off of the SD card or if they're just promising to help out with the fridge-cleaning.

Correct, everything that I've read states that they will be enabling the usage of the SD card slot to transfer the games over. We can already do this, I've read nothing beyond speculation that we're going to be able to play games off of it as well.

[soonersfan60]

Sorry, guys, but I think we will just be using the SD card as storage for all games (copied directly to SD card), but then "loading" them off the SD card to play a game. That's the way I parse what was said. I hope I am wrong, but if it is something more than that then I would imagine Nintendo would have just stated that very clearly.

[lilboo]

That doesn't make sense.
Why would you download a game DIRECTLY to storage?
When people download something NEW, they wish to use them immediately.

[gunm]

I agree, any expanded SD storage features (from what they are now) have to allow for playing off the card or it makes no sense.

Then again, non-sensical things do happen in these game company decision-making processes...

[soonersfan60]

I hope that it is playing off the SD card (and that would be the best and make the most sense), but I think they were careful to avoid saying that in both press conferences. Homebrew has apparently done it, so I am hopeful, but I just didn't hear that said directly--and if it were the case, I don't see the reason to avoid saying it loud, clear, and unambiguously.

[josh_animebum]

Hmm...everyone else is chiming in on the whole storage thing, so I'll throw in my two cents (since I am a Wii owner who is really annoyed by the storage thing and mostly been ignoring my Wii lately).

As has been pointed out, Nintendo has been too vague about the SD card thing for it to be what we all hoped for (i.e. playing directly off the SD card which homebrew has shown is completely possible).

The way it was phrased at the US conference as things will be "much easier" and that we can download straight to the SD card (which is ultimately pointless) makes me think it will be possibly some sort of automatic transfer thing where the Wii will load up all your games onto your Channels page including those stored on your SD card. Then when you choose the game if it is on the SD card the Wii will automatically transfer the game from the SD card into the system's memory and transfer something else back onto the SD card if space is needed.

So sort of a compromise (and one I'd almost be willing to live with, but I'd still probably gripe about it). Nintendo gets to force us only to play games from local memory, and we get freed from the hassle of manually swapping/redownloading games.

Not quite the solution we want, but it would certainly make the process of transfering games less annoying (we would just have to wait in a "loading into system memory" page for however long it takes, hopefully transder speed will be improved).

[-Never4ever-]

That's all I want, increased Transfer Speeds.

[The Crotch]

Assuming speed isn't an issue, Josh's post there is what I like to call the "best case scenario".

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Hmm...everyone else is chiming in on the whole storage thing, so I'll throw in my two cents (since I am a Wii owner who is really annoyed by the storage thing and mostly been ignoring my Wii lately).

As has been pointed out, Nintendo has been too vague about the SD card thing for it to be what we all hoped for (i.e. playing directly off the SD card which homebrew has shown is completely possible).

The way it was phrased at the US conference as things will be "much easier" and that we can download straight to the SD card (which is ultimately pointless) makes me think it will be possibly some sort of automatic transfer thing where the Wii will load up all your games onto your Channels page including those stored on your SD card. Then when you choose the game if it is on the SD card the Wii will automatically transfer the game from the SD card into the system's memory and transfer something else back onto the SD card if space is needed.

So sort of a compromise (and one I'd almost be willing to live with, but I'd still probably gripe about it). Nintendo gets to force us only to play games from local memory, and we get freed from the hassle of manually swapping/redownloading games.

Not quite the solution we want, but it would certainly make the process of transfering games less annoying (we would just have to wait in a "loading into system memory" page for however long it takes, hopefully transder speed will be improved).

I'm pretty sure this is exactly how it will work. This is the way that Guitar Hero World Tour is going to work. You'll download the DLC that you purchase to an SD card and the game will seamlessly pull that data into the Wii's internal storage when you want to play it. Once you are done playing it, it erases it from the internal storage, freeing up the space again.

As stated above and elsewhere, speed is going to be the main issue here. Another issue that could arise is if you don't have enough free space on the Wii's internal storage to allow the copy to occur.

Either way, whether it is running the game from the SD card or pulling it into system memory to run it, it will be better than what we currently have.

[Kaijufan]

From a Wired interview with Cammie Dunaway: (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/post.html)

So on the new storage solution for Wii, let me see if I understand this correctly. You’re downloading games to an SD card.
Dunaway: So basically what we’re trying to do is make it easier for people. We know that there have been a lot of workarounds and a lot of steps to save to an SD card. So it’s a combination of making it an easier interface, not having to go through as many menus to do the saving and then enabling people to save a game that they want to buy from WiiWare directly to an SD card.It's saving to the SD card only. Good job of understand the problem Nintendo! :dunce:

[SpazX]

Jesus, that answer was as confusing as possible, this whole interview is terrible.

[The Crotch]

Wired.com: Tell me about Club Nintendo. You made a small announcement about this — can you share any more details?
Dunaway: No more details. We’re still working out what all the prizes are going to be. We’d love to hear ideas from the fanbase about what kind of things they’d like to see included in Club Nintendo. You will be able to take over some of the points that you have in your current My Nintendo account. It won’t necessarily be all titles, but some Wii and DS titles. We want people to be able to start off with some points.Translation: Fuck you, Io.


Wired.com:We’ve got Club Nintendo in Europe and Japan, but in Europe it’s about virtual prizes like wallpapers. In Japan it’s physical goods. Is that what we’re looking at for America, the prizes?
Dunaway: It’s going to be a blend of both. Over the first year you’ll see more physical prizes. We’d like to figure out ways to get interesting digital prizes as well, but that’s more for phase two. If you have good ideas, shoot 'em to me.

EDIT: Reading that interview, I have to wonder just what exactly it is that Dunaway does at NoA.

[Strell]

She's the new Kaplan, TC.

You know Kaplan. She's 8000 years old and saw the beginnings and ends of every war in mankind's history.

[Kaijufan]

EDIT: Reading that interview, I have to wonder just what exactly it is that Dunaway does at NoA.
She's like Sarah Palin, only not as attractive and she doesn't energize the base like Reggie or Miyamoto. ;)

Also I hope they dump phase 2 of Club Nintendo and stick with phase 1 only, unless the digital prizes are Wiiware and VC games.

[dothog]

That interview is terrible, but Cammie is entertaining. In the way that Palin would be entertaining if she weren't actually that close to the presidency.

[lilboo]

Any translated videos out yet? That compilation video is nice, but I don't know half the games..:lol: :(

[BlueLobstah]

Here's what it sounds like to me.

Now:

1. Move (or delete) game from system to make space.
2. Download new game onto system.
3. Play game.

After Nintendo's Fix:

1. Download new game onto SD card.
2. Move (or delete) game from system to make space.
3. Move new game onto system.
4. Play game.

Nintendo: Hay guyz, we fixed ur problem!

:dunce:

Anyway, I liked how Chris pushed about the lack of ports from Japan. Off the top of my head, I can think of several titles not here in the US: Captain Rainbow (Europe), Soma Bringer, Disaster: Day of Crisis (Europe), Professor Layton 2, Fatal Frame IV... what's up? Hell if I'm going to even touch the whole Mother 3/EB on VC issue. Sometimes I wonder...

And right, exactly what does Dunaway do? She's supposed to be PR but hardly even knows their own product(s).

[io]

Translation: Fuck you, Io.


D'oh! Though what she is saying is better than nothing (or only having titles released after the changes count). Looks like all those GC and GBA game registrations were for naught though... I mean, they could throw us some sort of bone - like a free VC title for those with 50 combined GC+GBA registrations. I'm just sayin'...

[DQT]

She's like Sarah Palin, only not as attractive and she doesn't energize the base like Reggie or Miyamoto. ;)

Also I hope they dump phase 2 of Club Nintendo and stick with phase 1 only, unless the digital prizes are Wiiware and VC games.

Hit the nail on the head. With surgical precision. Especially with the Sarah Palin bit.

Wii points would be very smart prizes. Like I've said before, I've heard lots of very unexciting things about Europe's club Nintendo. The very idea of wallpapers as prizes still offends me. It takes a lot less work to do a google search and right click fanmade Nintendo wallpapers. Plus we get can get the option of whether or not they contain nudity.

[62t]

Damn I got tons of GBA and Gamecube games that won't get a single point? Thanks Nintendo

[Strell]

The storage solution is not a solution at all. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=58164#comments)

From a link on GoNintendo that cites an interview with Iwata himself, it is absolutely no solution. In fact, it's even more of a hassle now.

Unbelievable.

I guess the fallout had to happen sooner or later.

[The Crotch]

Clap. Clap.

...

Clap.

[JoeB1233]

I was just about to post that. Bummer, huh?

Oh well, I suppose Megaman 9 will suffice for the remainder of the Wii's lifespan. Seriously.

[Cao Cao]

Ugh, I'm removing that part from the topic title. Though, I do hope that "significant revisions to the Wii system" means significantly improving transfer speeds, as per josh's scenario, to make this feature somewhat useful. Looking at what homebrew can do from the SD card, something tells me that the slow transfer speeds we have now is not a hardware issue.

[Strell]

Yeah. Just add in "Nintendo still stupid" to the title. :]

[lilboo]

The storage solution is not a solution at all. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=58164#comments)

From a link on GoNintendo that cites an interview with Iwata himself, it is absolutely no solution. In fact, it's even more of a hassle now.

Unbelievable.

I guess the fallout had to happen sooner or later.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I just don't understand.

[Cao Cao]

Also, as a reminder, the press embargo lifts tomorrow, so we should start seeing some impressions on what was playable at the conference.

[The Crotch]

About fucking time.

[BlueLobstah]

Sometimes, I'm wonder if Nintendo is just so clueless about standard technology, or they're scared shitless to do it because of piracy. I'll never understand....

Trying to get Nintendo to understand is like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop. The world may never know...

[Cao Cao]

Well, you can view all of Gonintendo's impressions from the US conference here:
http://gonintendo.com/?cat=11

Nothing too major for the Wii though, just the Conduit, Cave Story, Boingz, World of Goo, etc. (With some eyes-on of Strong Bad 3 and Mad World).

Also, Nintendo posted a transcript and a fully dubbed web cast of Iwata's presentation in Tokyo:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/presen/e/index.html

Webcast (IE suggested, as Firefox opens new tabs every time there's a new slide):
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081002/34/36e60ea959/main/d4c5000436_hi.htm

[The Crotch]

Well, you can view all of Gonintendo's impressions from the US conference here:
http://gonintendo.com/?cat=11Good God, that's a fucking mess.

Nothing too major for the Wii though, just the Conduit, Cave Story, Boingz, World of Goo, etc. (With some eyes-on of Strong Bad 3 and Mad World).And Fire Emblem!

EDIT: Wow, the write-up on FE looks like it was made for retarded children.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

The storage solution is not a solution at all. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=58164#comments)

From a link on GoNintendo that cites an interview with Iwata himself, it is absolutely no solution. In fact, it's even more of a hassle now.

Unbelievable.

I guess the fallout had to happen sooner or later.

It is a solution in Nintendo's eyes. It allows people to buy WiiWare or VC games when they have no space on their Wii. Something that was not possible before.

So basically they are allowing themselves to make money where in the past they may have lost sales due to people not wanting to go through the hassle of deleting shit just to play new shit.

So see, to Nintendo, this is a solution!

Seriously though, someone needs to call them on this shit. This might fly over in Japan, but NoA needs a nut-kicking wake up call. Stop letting NoJ call the shots when it comes to stuff they don't have the first fucking clue about.

[dothog]

It is a solution in Nintendo's eyes. It allows people to buy WiiWare or VC games when they have no space on their Wii. Something that was not possible before.

So basically they are allowing themselves to make money where in the past they may have lost sales due to people not wanting to go through the hassle of deleting shit just to play new shit.

So see, to Nintendo, this is a solution!
This is true. It's a "solution" much in the same way that wrapping each VC ROM in its own emulator is a solution of how to put the ROM next to the emulator. Sure it works, but there's zero simplicity/elegance.

Seriously though, someone needs to call them on this shit. This might fly over in Japan, but NoA needs a nut-kicking wake up call. Stop letting NoJ call the shots when it comes to stuff they don't have the first fucking clue about.
I read comments about the NOA/NOJ divide all the time around here. Is the idea that Japanese gamers don't care about storage issues? I would think that VC/WW is just as big over there as it is here. Is that not true?

[The Crotch]

I think they're too busy dodging tentacle monsters to notice, Hog.

[dothog]

I think they're too busy dodging tentacle monsters to notice, Hog.
Tentacle rape is serious business.

[io]

Yeah. Just add in "Nintendo still stupid" to the title. :]

"If I've lost Strell, I've lost America"...

This should be a wake-up call to Nintendo more than anything else :lol:.

Ah, what the hell am I saying - they are still raking in the cash, what do they care?

[Cao Cao]

GoNintendo compiled the previews from various sites:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=58320

- 1up has a good article on Cave Story, and why you should get it for WiiWare.
- Surprisingly, Destructoid and MTV enjoyed playing through some of Wii Music's modes this time.
- Joystiq has an odd... video of Boingz in their preview. Just watch it, you'll see what I mean a few seconds in. Looks like it might be good Wiiware title, though.

Good God, that's a fucking mess.
I know, they didn't put anything in the "end of day" post, nor did they tag them all with a conference tag. Instead, they just used the generic updates tag.

And Fire Emblem!

EDIT: Wow, the write-up on FE looks like it was made for retarded children.
Yeah, in the first part he's trying to make it sound like going through the tutorial is some huge feat (All of the other previewers went through it too). Then, suddenly, he goes into some pointless generic "description" paragraph that could be used to describe just about any Turn-based SRPG.

[The Crotch]

Yeah, in the first part he's trying to make it sound like going through the tutorial is some huge feat (All of the other previewers went through it too). Then, suddenly, he goes into some pointless generic "description" paragraph that could be used to describe just about any Turn-based SRPG.It's just plain bad. You don't start off with "I am not a fan of the Fire Emblem series, only because I don’t like strategy games. They just aren’t my idea of fun. It kind of sucks, too…because I see how much you guys love the series," then go on and act like you're explaining the game to someone who's never been in a horseless fucking carriage.

[lilboo]

Ya know, they announced a lot of good games and I am excited.
But.
No New Trauma Center? :cry:

[007]

I'm not a numbers kinda guy, but did the second Wii Trauma Center even do all that well? I'm barely remember anyone talking about it, and when they did... well, it wasn't positive.

It's a shame, too, since it's one of the franchises that *should* have translated VERY well to the Wii, but both iterations had some major problems.

[KingBroly]

Okay, since NMH2 isn't coming to Japan, why didn't they announce it at the Press Event for North America instead of TGS?

[lilboo]

I'm not a numbers kinda guy, but did the second Wii Trauma Center even do all that well? I'm barely remember anyone talking about it, and when they did... well, it wasn't positive.

It's a shame, too, since it's one of the franchises that *should* have translated VERY well to the Wii, but both iterations had some major problems.

What problems? I played through the DS and the Wii games. The only problem I ever had was the difficulty :-(

[007]

I was talking about JUST the Wii games. First one, though good, was basically a DS rehash (when it could've been so much more) and the second Wii game was blazingly hard without an assisting surgeon (my opinion... it just felt like two player wasn't so much an option, but a requirement).

I've got no qualms with the DS ones.


Still curious about how well the second Wii one did, sales-wise... same with the second DS one.