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diddy310
05-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Just got murdered by Great Tiger, huge bump up in difficulty from his NES incarnation
Rei no Otaku
05-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Aran Ryan is apparently a crack addict now. The way he moves is crazy. Got through everyone up to him without too much trouble except some of the timing on Don Flamenco.
KingBroly
05-19-2009, 07:13 PM
I just beat Bald Bull. I'm like...2-3 against everyone past Aran Ryan now :( the problem with Bald Bull is that during his charge the framerate drops to 30 fps, and it throws off my timing so much it's ridiculous.
Mad D
05-19-2009, 07:31 PM
There are four routes to chooseth from:
Have a Wiimote without a nunchuk? Go for Target's $54 Punch-Out!!/Nunchuk bundle.
Thinking about getting this, it has been getting great reviews. This package would be a good way to trick me into thinking I'm saving greatly on something ($5 nun-chuck or $35 Punch Out ;) ).
KingBroly
05-19-2009, 07:43 PM
Man...I hate Super Macho Man. I can dodge everything, and I mean EVERYTHING he dishes out except for his "Pump It!" attack. There's no tell for it at all. Everything else I can dodge or duck just fine. That one attack screwed me over so many times before I TKO'd his ass in the first round just now :) although...he knocked me down twice :(
I am annoyed that the Canadian release date seems to be pushed back. It's probably due to yesterday being a federal holiday. Blah.
KingBroly
05-19-2009, 08:22 PM
So I just completed the Exhibition Challenges against Glass Joe He KO'd me twice in the process. Don't get knocked down 4 times using the Wiimote sideways. Holy crap, it's so much better than Wiimote/Nunchuck.
DAWG26
05-19-2009, 08:28 PM
So I just completed the Exhibition Challenges against Glass Joe He KO'd me twice in the process. Don't get knocked down 4 times using the Wiimote sideways. Holy crap, it's so much better than Wiimote/Nunchuck.
Im curious about others opions on that too. Is it better to use the classic controller or just the wii remote? Or is the nunchuck and wii remote best?
KingBroly
05-19-2009, 08:36 PM
You can't use the Classic Controller for some reason. Honestly, start on Wiimote/Nunchuck then go to Wiimote and you won't really care. Oh, and I'm not trying Balance Board controls.
lilboo
05-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Hm.. So what is the control scheme with the balance board??
KingBroly
05-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Wiimote + Nunchuck + Balance Board = ???
I'll try it out against Glass Joe. I've got him 100% down now, so using the Balance Board shouldn't be too much of a problem.
ArthurDigbySellers
05-20-2009, 12:03 AM
Hm.. So what is the control scheme with the balance board??
Wiimote and Nunchuk to punch
Lean left = dodge left
Lean right = dodge right
Bend knees = duck
I haven't messed with it too much, I really like NES style since it brings me back to the good old days.
I just beat Don Flamenco and I am heading to bed. That bastard beat me twice! Oh, and Great Tiger whooped my ass the first go round as well. Exhibition Mode is an excellent addition.
lilboo
05-20-2009, 12:08 AM
That sounds like a good way to play. I hope it actually works.. :rofl: Hate the Wii
My game shipped :D Should be here tomorrow!
Snake2715
05-20-2009, 11:16 AM
There are four routes to chooseth from:
Dang, maybe I will make the jump and pick this up.
KingBroly
05-20-2009, 05:17 PM
So last night I finished Contender Mode, which took about 3 hours. I spent an extra 20 minutes or so with the Glass Joe Exhibition Challenges. I won my first fight in Title Defense mode after using the Practice Hologram first, which is really helpful. It's a shame that you can't continue to use it after you beat that opponent, though.
crunchewy
05-20-2009, 05:47 PM
I can't see the point of playing this without wiimote and nunchuck, but I don't have the love for the original that some do, not having ever played it much. I mean, if it doesn't work well then I would just be disappointed - I wouldn't be satisfied with the wiimote only (i.e. classic) mode. To me part of the point here would be to get a sneaky workout. So... I'm hoping to hear from some that the wiimote + nunchuck works great. Even better that the wiimote+nunchuck+balance board works great. Yes? I do wish they allowed wiimote + wiimote.
HowStern
05-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Picked this up today. Love every punch out and have only been playing it NES style. That was my favorite as a kid.
But, uhh, what's with all the awkward chocolate bar references?
Strell
05-20-2009, 05:49 PM
Little Mac is scared of Dementors.
KongaKing
05-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Anyone getting errors? Three times so far, when starting the game, I get something along the lines that says the Mii channel can not be loaded, please check the mii channel. Then it kicks me out to the Wii main menu. I tried again, same thing. Tried a 3rd time, worked fine. What the hell is that?
KingBroly
05-20-2009, 07:12 PM
I haven't noticed any problems so far.
I'll mention this again:
Wiimote+Nunchuck do work fine, but Wiimote sideways just works a lot better and makes everything easier. I guess what they could have done was make the timing for every fight different depending on your control setup.
KongaKing
05-20-2009, 07:28 PM
This is the error I keep getting. It's super annoying since it quits out to the main wii menu, and I have to keep trying 'til it finally works
http://i42.tinypic.com/29fz7yf.jpg
KingBroly
05-20-2009, 07:41 PM
Have you tried loading up your Mii Channel?
johnnypark
05-20-2009, 07:41 PM
Just got it today! Flew through the Minor Circuit, and then got my ass handed to me repeatedly by Great Tiger. My timing is awful for dodging in the right direction for his upper-cuts. Ugh!
KongaKing
05-20-2009, 07:47 PM
Have you tried loading up your Mii Channel?
Yeah Mii Channel works fine. I even deleted a few Miis to see if that helped. It's so annoying having to just hope the game boots
KingBroly
05-20-2009, 08:44 PM
Well...if it doesn't load the next time you try, you should probably call Nintendo.
databuild
05-21-2009, 12:27 AM
Could be fun...
GameStop Announces Punch-Out Tournament
Step up and get ready to get into the ring for this nationwide tourney.
May 20, 2009 - GRAPEVINE, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--GameStop Corp. (NYSE:GME), the world's largest video game and entertainment software retailer, today announced that it will host a nationwide Punch-Out!! video game tournament on the Wii in 2,000 stores on Saturday, May 30, 2009.
Participating GameStop locations will begin their tournaments at 2 p.m. local time; however, customers are encouraged to contact their local store to confirm the details. All contestants must check-in at least 30 minutes prior to the start of play, and you must be at least 10 years old to participate in the event. Parental/legal guardian approval will not be accepted for anyone under 10 years old for this tournament.
The tournament will allow 32 contestants per location, which will be randomly paired up to square off toe to toe in the ring for the opening match. Each match will consist of three short rounds giving contestants three tries to knockout the opponent. The winners of each match will continue to play until one contestant is left standing. Prizes include an exclusive Punch-Out!!T-shirt featuring legendary character Little Mac for the tournament champion and Punch-Out!! bumper stickers available for tournament participants, while supplies last.
For additional tournament details and to obtain a list of official rules, visit a local GameStop retail location or http://www.gamestop.com/punchout!!.
About GameStop Corp.
Headquartered in Grapevine, TX, GameStop Corp., a Fortune 500 and S&P 500 company, is the world's largest video game and entertainment software retailer. The company operates 6,207 retail stores in 17 countries worldwide. The company also operates an e-commerce site, GameStop.com, and publishes Game Informer magazine, a leading multi-platform video game publication. GameStop Corp. sells new and used video game software, hardware and accessories for video game systems from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. In addition, the company sells PC entertainment software, related accessories and other merchandise. General information on GameStop Corp. can be obtained at the company's corporate website:http://www.gamestopcorp.com.
Link = http://wii.ign.com/articles/985/985272p1.html
KongaKing
05-21-2009, 01:37 AM
Well, I deleted all my Mii's, and I no longer get that punch out error. I must have had a corrupt mii file floating around in there or something.
Cao Cao
05-21-2009, 07:08 AM
Picked it up at Target tonight, Nunchuk bundle of course. (Just a note for those who are interested in the bundle: It seems that the $54 price point for the bundle is a sale price just for this week; the shelf tag said that the regular price of the bundle is $64.99)
Went through the Minor Circuit with little problem. But the difficulty for me ramped up at Bear Hugger, as I barely won that one. I quickly got used to Great Tiger's quirks. My first loss was at the hands of Don Flamenco, and I barely won our rematch by decision, even after fighting the hologram. Now I'm stuck at Aran Ryan. (*clenches fist*) For this fight, I'll need to work on my timing.
This game ROCKS!!
Rei no Otaku
05-21-2009, 09:46 AM
I've been working my way through the title defense mode. I pretty much breezed through the first run of characters without much trouble, only to get knocked out by Von Kaiser in title defense. This mode should be fun.
lilboo
05-21-2009, 12:55 PM
Played for about 45 minutes last night. Beat minor circuit and got my ass whooped by Great Tiger.
Overall, fun game.
However, glad I only paid $35 for it.
It's a shame, IMO, when the best control is NES style. It should be fun/better with the "Wii Controls" since that's what the Wii is, ya know, for.
Great game though!
I got up to Piston Hondo on my first try using motion controls & balance board. This game costs an arm & a leg here in Canada. I figure it doesn't matter when I am only buying a Wii game once every 6 months.
crunchewy
05-21-2009, 04:51 PM
Played for about 45 minutes last night. Beat minor circuit and got my ass whooped by Great Tiger.
Overall, fun game.
However, glad I only paid $35 for it.
It's a shame, IMO, when the best control is NES style. It should be fun/better with the "Wii Controls" since that's what the Wii is, ya know, for.
Great game though!
Did you try it with remote + nunchuck? Did it not play well with them? Did you try it with the balance board?
KongaKing
05-21-2009, 05:26 PM
Man Great Tiger is kicking my ass. It seems like if you dodge when he's red, it's too late
I give up. I have tried the motion controls for a few hours and they are making me lose. I am the guy who refuses to play Mario Kart without the wheel, but the motion controls in this game are just too slow. At the very least, the balance board is a guaranteed fail. Sometimes it ducks when you want to dodge.
This game is all about split second timing. Having your hits and dodge be reliant on your whole body moving instead of just your finger makes it frustrating.
HowStern
05-21-2009, 06:03 PM
Motion controls on wii are so bad. Shooters(all what? 3 of 'em?) and mario kart are the only good things.
I find the sixaxis on ps3 responds better to motion controls. I don't dare try this game using them.
I'm on Mr. Sandman right now. This is a little easier than I would have liked. I need to give super punch out another go. Dragon chan or whatever is the last guy i remember getting stuck on in that game.
lilboo
05-21-2009, 07:53 PM
Did you try it with remote + nunchuck? Did it not play well with them? Did you try it with the balance board?
Yes to remote+chuck. It was.. OK. I only played a bit with it. I just wish it felt more real. See, this game SHOULD have waited for the Wii Motion plus....
I haven't tried the balance board yet. Maybe I will tonight.
Mad D
05-21-2009, 08:29 PM
Yes to remote+chuck. It was.. OK. I only played a bit with it. I just wish it felt more real. See, this game SHOULD have waited for the Wii Motion plus....
I haven't tried the balance board yet. Maybe I will tonight.
Yes, motion plus could have added more fighting depth to the game like being able to punch at ribs or how you would go about punching at the face either with a jab or uppercut, but that definitely wouldn't be Punch Out. We'll have to see what other companies do with it motion plus, probably will see something EA.
ArthurDigbySellers
05-21-2009, 08:29 PM
Yes to remote+chuck. It was.. OK. I only played a bit with it. I just wish it felt more real. See, this game SHOULD have waited for the Wii Motion plus....
I haven't tried the balance board yet. Maybe I will tonight.
I guess it is possible that WM+ could have made the punching a bit more responsive, but honestly, this is Punch Out. This game was made for playing NES style, IMO.
Not every Wii game needs to use motion controls just like not every DS game needs to use the touch screen. The motion controls in this game are just to entice the casual crowd into playing it, but in the end they are just not precise enough to play the game effectively, especially in later rounds.
I can't imagine fighting Aran Ryan with the Wiimote and Nunchuk. I had a hard enough time with the old school controls.
BlueLobstah
05-21-2009, 09:30 PM
Yes, motion plus could have added more fighting depth to the game like being able to punch at ribs or how you would go about punching at the face either with a jab or uppercut, but that definitely wouldn't be Punch Out. We'll have to see what other companies do with it motion plus, probably will see something EA.
I wish I could find the interview, but Next Level Games mentioned something to the effect. They knew about Motion+, had plenty of time to develop for it, but if they choose to do so, Punch Out would cease to be Punch Out, so they opted not to include it.
It's a shame, it would figure my copy would arrive after I go out of town for memorial day weekend. I guy that means I have something to look forward to when I come back.
Lost_In_Shadows
05-21-2009, 11:56 PM
Just got it today! Flew through the Minor Circuit, and then got my ass handed to me repeatedly by Great Tiger. My timing is awful for dodging in the right direction for his upper-cuts. Ugh!
Same. I beat Great Tiger after about 10 tries. xD
I rented it, and it is very good. I'm on the last Circuit.
KingBroly
05-22-2009, 01:19 AM
same. I beat great tiger after about 10 tries. Xd
i rented it, and it is very good. I'm on the last circuit.
or so you think!
crunchewy
05-22-2009, 09:06 AM
Hmm... thanks for the input folks. It sounds like the motion controls in this game are a bit of bust, which is a shame. I'll probably still give this game a try, but probably I'll first pick up Super Punch Out via the VC, or even the original. Seems like if I'm going to get into this game I ought to start at the beginning.
As for Wii motion controls in general, there are plenty of (at least) first party games that use them well, most recently Excitebots Trick Racing, which only allows motion controls and wouldn't be the same game without them, and it works fantastic. When used properly and in the right games, they work great. It sounds like Punch Out isn't the game to use them in, so then you wonder why they included them. I don't know how that will work out - I get that it will attract players to the game (it did me), but will the most players get the game, use the motion controls and then conclude that they should use the classic controls, or will they simply conclude that the game is lousy and never try the classic controls?
In any case, I certainly hope that the tournament held by Gamestop requires use of the motion controls. It would be fun to watch *that* tournament and not so fun to watch a tournament using classic controls. I'm sure I'll be beheaded for that thought. :)
KingBroly
05-22-2009, 02:18 PM
No, they're not a bust. Sheesh. It's just that Wiimote sideways is better. You can definitely beat the game with motion controls (Title Defense included) but you'll have to be careful with your swings.
so last night I beat Title Defense Hitler, er...Von Kaiser and he's sort of tough, but it was a bit easy considering I did Practice before I faced him.
Lost_In_Shadows
05-22-2009, 05:25 PM
or so you think!
Is there really more than 3?
KingBroly
05-22-2009, 05:43 PM
Is there really more than 3?
World B, World A and World S
JEKKI
05-22-2009, 08:42 PM
I beat the first round of fighters last nite.
man... that Mr Sandman is a bitch!!
what sucks is that once u figure out how to get stars on him, it's still difficult becoz it's so hard to react properly to anything he does... it comes down to jus throwing out random jabs since u recover from them faster than you do from a dodge (which would allow you to dodge an attack you would accidentally dodge on twitch reaction and thus eat fist)
but then as u die like 10 times on him... u realize his pattern never changes and u can memorize all his moves in round 1 O_o
I also dont really like how every single fighter before him is like 100000 times easier...
but now I'm on round 2 title defender so I hear this is the part of the game where it gets interesting.
decrot
05-22-2009, 08:47 PM
I just started to play this game. Great game.
This is what games should be like, great gameplay and graphics as an aftermath.
first wii game I enjoyed in over a year.
I gave the motion controls & balance board another serious try today for a few hours. It was a lot smoother. I am still stuck on Great Tiger after 5 tries, but it feels more natural now.
$hady
05-23-2009, 04:05 PM
Rented this game and it's awesome I just made it to Great Tiger but taking a break for now before fighting him. Reminds me of how fun games were as a kid playing this for days and days since I didn't have to many games. Really wish I would've Gameflyed it now since i've got $15 worth of codes, $28 would've been sweet.
I'm so glad they didn't ruin the controls and force you to use the stupid motion stuff. I know i'm a minority but I don't like it, i'm a button pusher for life. :)
First time i've played my Wii in several months!
KaneRobot
05-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Played through this with friends last night. Had to retry Don Flamenco and Super Macho Man several times but the rest weren't too bad. Then we got to Mr. Sandman and wound up quitting after just a few tries, it was already late as hell and we knew we wouldn't be figuring him out anytime soon.
I don't see myself still being interested in it in 2 months. Fun while it lasts though.
KingBroly
05-23-2009, 09:11 PM
I think I'll go back it tomorrow or later tonight. Piston Hondo was sort of tough the first time around so I want to make sure I know what I'm facing this time.
StarKnightX
05-23-2009, 10:39 PM
So , question for those of you that have played all 3 punch out games. How would you rate the difficulty between the 3 (as in which one is the hardest and which is the easiest)?
The impression I kinda get from reviews of the new game is that the challenge order would be:
Easiest : Punch Out (Original)
Medium : Punch Out (Wii)
Hardest : Super Punch Out
I have no idea whether this is true or not , but even if it is , would it still be recommended to play them from easiest to hardest , or in the order they came out in?
I never really played the punch out games very much and I was never very good at them when I did (I chalk that up to my age at the time :P ) and never really went back to them. But now with the new Wii game and the 2 originals on the VC , I wan't to go back and play the old ones as well as play the new one.
Doomed
05-23-2009, 10:52 PM
Punch-Out!! (Wii) seems more difficult that Punch-Out!! (NES). In Punch-Out (NES), I made it to Soda Popinski and gave up. Here, I made it to Bald Bull (around 1/2 through World Circuit) and I'm not completely owned. The only thing that makes this game easy is that you can practice a match before you fight the person.
Note that I used a guide heavily for Punch-Out!! (NES), and I have completely stayed away from tips on how to beat _____ for Punch-Out!! (Wii)
KingBroly
05-23-2009, 11:01 PM
I've heard that Mr. Sandman in Title Defense is as tough as Mike Tyson.
crunchewy
05-23-2009, 11:02 PM
I tried the game out at Gamestop and it was definitely fun. Unfortunately I didn't get to try it with motion controls because the nunchuck didn't seem to be working. I later found out this was because the demo machine has a button you have to press to turn on/off the nunchuck. Oh well. In any case it was definitely fun and am going to have to ask my wife to give it to me for my birthday. :)
I also thought the game looked fantastic. Great graphics and style.
StarKnightX
05-23-2009, 11:09 PM
One other question while I'm thinking about it. My brother is trying to get the third achievement from fighting bear hugger (original fight - find 5 ways to get a star punch) , but he can't figure out the last one. He's already found Hit him while Taunting
Counter his Hook
Counter his Head Smash
Counter his Bear Hug. I suspect it involves countering his "lets dance" taunt but we can't seem to get it to work. Or we/him on the right track?
Matt Young
05-23-2009, 11:39 PM
I really want those boxing gloves.
Kyattsuai
05-24-2009, 01:40 AM
I was laughing for about a minute when I was fighting Bald Bull, and Doc said "If you can't beat him in a fight, how about an arm wrestle?" I haven't gotten to his TD match yet, but I hope he's wearing his Mask X mask in it.
EXStrike
05-24-2009, 02:43 AM
I got stuck on Soda Popinski and Super Macho Man, but now I'm on Mr. Sandman. I keep twitch-dodging on his "stand still" punch, so I dodge too early and then eat his fist when I recover from the dodge, I guess I should try using Practice mode; haven't done it yet.
Loving the game so far.
KingBroly
05-24-2009, 03:23 PM
So for the people that want to know how Hardcore this game, let me put it this way:
Last Stand Mode
You face random fighters until you lose 3 times. Your health doesn't regenerate, either. Once you lose 3 times, you're stuck doing Exhibition Challenges. You can't get the Headgear (I believe), you can't continue your career. You want to do it again? Start a new profile.
Champions Mode (I'm still not 100% sure about the first part of this)
After winning 10 matches in Last Stand Mode, this replaces that, and it's the same thing with 1 exception: 1 hit knocks you down. Your Career could be ended by Glass Joe in 1 hit (how embarassing would that be?) You can also choose Champion style matches for Exhibition Mode once you unlock it.
For both, you cannot restart or quit matches, and so if you think you're going to lose, you have to go back to the Home menu to restart the game.
ihadFG
05-25-2009, 11:34 AM
Yesterday, once I beat Super Macho Man (on contender mode), it was too late to take on Mr. Sandman, so I just faced him once before bed just to see what he was like, and I got crushed. I didn't think I had any chance of beating him anytime soon. So today when I wake up I play and beat him first try (by decision, although I was one set of hits away from TKOing him). I'm still completely stunned, especially considering I lost like 7 times to Super Macho Man before beating him, and he seemed much easier than Mr. Sandman.
ZForce
05-25-2009, 11:41 AM
StarKnight: You're correct You want to time the punch so that you hit him when his belly is closest to you
Doomed
05-25-2009, 12:15 PM
Yesterday, once I beat Super Macho Man (on contender mode), it was too late to take on Mr. Sandman, so I just faced him once before bed just to see what he was like, and I got crushed. I didn't think I had any chance of beating him anytime soon. So today when I wake up I play and beat him first try (by decision, although I was one set of hits away from TKOing him). I'm still completely stunned, especially considering I lost like 7 times to Super Macho Man before beating him, and he seemed much easier than Mr. Sandman.
Super Macho man is easy. He has pretty consistent dodging timings, so a match or two in practice followed by the real thing should be enough. Sandman, on the other hand, is evil. I beat him, but I still have never dodged his "night night" punch without it being an accident.
ihadFG
05-25-2009, 01:07 PM
Super Macho man is easy. He has pretty consistent dodging timings, so a match or two in practice followed by the real thing should be enough. Sandman, on the other hand, is evil. I beat him, but I still have never dodged his "night night" punch without it being an accident.
Yeah, Super Macho Man seemed easier than the rest of the World Circuit, but for some reason I just kept making mistakes. And that's funny you mention the "night night" punch as being the hardest part of Mr. Sandman, because that and his triple punch move are the only ones I can say I consistently did dodge (the other moves I had to counter because I couldn't get the timing right on the dodges).
And by the way, I never went into practice, I just kept doing rematches for each fighter when I lost. I probably should have done practices though to figure out the signals.
klwillis45
05-25-2009, 01:09 PM
Sandman is also easy after some practice. I TKO'd him in the 1st.
Dodge sparingly, counter jabs are the key.
ihadFG
05-25-2009, 01:17 PM
Sandman is also easy after some practice. I TKO'd him in the 1st.
Dodge sparingly, counter jabs are the key.
Yeah, my strategy was basically to just keep right jabbing until he did either the night night punch or the triple punch (whatever it's called), and then dodge those.
pygmy carnotaur
05-25-2009, 01:36 PM
I'm actually disappointed by how easy Super Macho Man is in this one. It's by far the easiest SMM has ever been. I can consistantly TKO him in round 1 without getting hit, and I'm not that good. His attacks are just too easy to dodge, and it's hard not to get stars on him.
At the moment, I'm up to TD Bald Bull... this one is going to take awhile.
Doomed
05-25-2009, 01:46 PM
Yeah, Super Macho Man seemed easier than the rest of the World Circuit, but for some reason I just kept making mistakes. And that's funny you mention the "night night" punch as being the hardest part of Mr. Sandman, because that and his triple punch move are the only ones I can say I consistently did dodge (the other moves I had to counter because I couldn't get the timing right on the dodges).
Well, first I got the timing on the ludicrous speed punches, and his "night night" punch is designed so that if you are used to dodging as soon as he starts a punch, you'll get hit every time.
KingBroly
05-25-2009, 01:50 PM
I'm up to TD Great Tiger. I've lost in TD 6 times against the last 2 fighters. Sheesh, what a pain. I can dominate these guys all day long and then one attack comes along and my timing gets thrown off completely.
On the bright side, I've completed all Exhibition Challenges for the Minor Circuit.
I will agree that Super Macho Man is easily dominated. I can dodge every attack except his "Pump It" attack. That's the only one that gives me trouble. Everything else hits nothing but air.
Kyattsuai
05-25-2009, 05:03 PM
Just beat Flamenco in TD. I could only win the last three fights by decision; does the ref judge the match based solely on who does more damage to the other guy?
KingBroly
05-25-2009, 06:00 PM
# of Knockdowns and Health remaining
blitz6speed
05-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Well, i finally tried the game out last night. Felt pretty strait forward till i got to bear hugger, and the dodging turned into direction based. Ive played punchout NES over 500 times and direction never really mattered outside of weird events. So bear hugger was a huge pain, but great tiger really pissed me off, almost every single thing was directional. After 3 failed attempts, i just gave up and ill try it again today. The controls are fantastic NES style, feels just amazingly good. I also don't like how the stars aren't individual punches..
Strell
05-26-2009, 11:20 PM
Finally got to try it out.
Fantastic game. Stopped after I took out Bear Hugger. Animation is amazing, gameplay is simple but fun, and it's wrapped up with a lot of love and polish. I'd like to think newcomers could enjoy it as much as those of us with nostalgia, but at the same time I know the gaming crowd these days is so different than what it used to be.
Highly recommended so long as you know what to expect, and can actually learn to recognize patterns and so forth. Can't wait to play it some more.
BlueLobstah
05-27-2009, 02:47 AM
I went through the regular career mode all in the first night, but Title Defense is really where this game shines. I lost to freaking Glass Joe, and have only made it thus far to Disco Kid. The best part is figuring out the techniques of each fighter and adjusting your strategy accordingly.
Overall, the motion controls work very well, although I must admit I had to use just the Wii remote for Mr. Sandman due to the speed of his punches. It's really a happy medium as fans of the old school games get to enjoy the preciseness of the d-pad and button, while helping to draw in new fans with the motion controls.
I played vs. mode with a roommate, and I guess its okay, but it's not really Punch-Out as we're mostly randomly failing only occasionally trying to predict the other's movement.
KingBroly
05-27-2009, 08:06 PM
I just beat Aran Ryan on Title Defense. He is really easy. Like...easier than Glass Joe on Title Defense. But the fight is also really fun.
Title Defense Don Flamenco was also fun because I put his ass in an infinite loop for most of the fight. But Piston Hondo, Bear Hugger and Great Tiger on Title Defense are HARD. Now it's onto Popinski for me, and then...Bald Bull. Oh boy.
lilboo
05-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Just got to Sandman last night..Jeeze..!! :cry:
KingBroly
05-27-2009, 09:03 PM
Nighty Night!
Want some more?
BlueLobstah
05-27-2009, 10:42 PM
I've been taking it a bit more easy with Title Defense, trying to figure out the intricacies of each fighter, but I'm kind of stuck on Disco Kid and King Hippo.
One of the challenges is to KO or TKO Disco Kid in only 90 seconds. I can't figure out when or what I'm supposed to do to get this. The other is 3 star King Hippo when he's not guarding his belly, but I can't figure out how to get stars with TD King Hippo.
Any ideas?
EXStrike
05-28-2009, 12:33 AM
I finally beat Sandman today and took out TD Glass Joe in two tries. How do you get a star against him? The obvious star chance I went with right jab but no dice. Maybe I just did it too slow?
pygmy carnotaur
05-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Those are the only two challenges I have left to do for those two as well. I think the Disco Kid one has got to be a well timed star punch, but so far I haven't found any instant KOs on him.
After fighting TD Bald Bull, TD Super Macho Man was easy(though at least the second time around he's more like the SMM from previous Punch-Outs with the instant KO clotheslines).
I'm up to Title Defense Mr. Sandman now. I have a feeling Sandman is going to be quite a challenge this time around. I know how to beat him, the trick is just going to be me getting good enough at dodging his attacks to actually do it. But somehow I doubt he's going to be anywhere as annoying as TD Bald Bull was, I was surprised when I managed to beat him. I've looked at the challenges for him, and I don't think there's any way I'm going to be able to do any of those, at least not any time soon.
I finally beat Sandman today and took out TD Glass Joe in two tries. How do you get a star against him? The obvious star chance I went with right jab but no dice. Maybe I just did it too slow?
I know of three ways to get stars on TD Glass Joe. You can hook him when he taunts on the side that's open(the first thing he does every time), or you can counter punch his jabs with a hook. The third way is the key to beating his "Land 50 Jabs" challenge. Once you hit him with a star and the helmet flies off, jab him 5 times and it should turn yellow(instead of red). When that happens, punch him in the gut with a hook and you'll get another star.
StarKnightX
05-28-2009, 01:12 AM
I've been taking it a bit more easy with Title Defense, trying to figure out the intricacies of each fighter, but I'm kind of stuck on Disco Kid and King Hippo.
One of the challenges is to KO or TKO Disco Kid in only 90 seconds. I can't figure out when or what I'm supposed to do to get this. The other is 3 star King Hippo when he's not guarding his belly, but I can't figure out how to get stars with TD King Hippo.
Any ideas?
Those are the only two challenges I have left to do for those two as well. I think the Disco Kid one has got to be a well timed star punch, but so far I haven't found any instant KOs on him.
My brother actually just got the KO/TKO Disco Kid in 90 challenge tonight.
The trick : Whenever you get a star punch off of him , you can almost always get a second one on him if you gut punch him (jab?) right when he gets back in the center of the ring. Knowing this , basically punch him twice for two stars , unleash them on him , repeat until beaten. The exception is at the start of the fight , since you get the extra star at the start for hitting him while taunting , so wait until you have the 3 star punch before unleashing.
If you end up dizzying him instead of star punching him (usually happens when trying to counter his "jumping jack punch") , just let him break out of it , so as not to waste time , but if you dizzy him more than once you'll probably lose the challenge.
Sorry if anyone has trouble understanding my explanation , I can try to further clarify myself if needed.
KingBroly
05-28-2009, 01:40 AM
I'm up to Title Defense Bald Bull, and there's only one problem I'm having with him, and it's the same problem I had with regular version of him. The framerate dips to 30 as soon as he does his Bull Charge attack. It throws off my timing so much.
BlueLobstah
05-28-2009, 02:08 AM
I must be doing it wrong. I've been getting star punches on Disco Kid by hooking (or jabbing) him right after he comes out of his stun. I think I may be missing an initial star punch.
It's stuff like this that makes you realize how much depth this game has. You struggle to defeat a fighter triumphantly in the career mode only to come back later to find out that a 1 hit KO is possible. :lol:
KingBroly
05-28-2009, 02:22 AM
I just beat Bald Bull on Title Defense. TKO @ 2:49:74
Fuck YOU BALD BULL! Fuck YOU Fuck YOU Fuck YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUCK MY ASS YOU TURKISH PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
YOUR MATRIX ABILITY AIN'T GONNA HELP YOU IN HELL, BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StarKnightX
05-28-2009, 02:28 AM
Any ideas on Soda Popinski's challenge "Beat him in round 1 with no less than 1:11 left on the clock"? My brother and I figure that it has to be an issue of utilizing the timing of the star punches , but we can't figure out how. The best he's done is 1:10.
KingBroly
05-28-2009, 02:37 AM
I just found a video for such the occassion. I haven't tried it myself, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgWIV72i_xU
People play games on the shittiest TV sets.
I am up to Super Macho Man. I only tried him twice. He just barely beat me.
I was using the full blown motion controls with balance board until I got to Great Tiger. I just wasn't able to dodge properly. I was getting ready to switch to the classic controls, but instead I dumped the balance board and stuck with the 'mote and nunchuck motion controls. It feels fine. I blasted up to Macho Man using motion controls with no problem. I don't see where the hate on the motion controls would come from, although I have yet to try the classic controls.
The balance board is just too much. It was too hard to quickly and accurately dodge, and I feel I was actually pretty good at it.
I also cannot seem to get the timing for the Bald Bull charge. I managed to handily defeat him anyway, since the only time he can hit me is during the charge, and he only does the charge maybe twice.
KingBroly
05-29-2009, 03:58 AM
I just managed to beat Title Defense. So, if you lose to Mr. Sandman in Title Defense it does revert back to the entrance of him as Champion, but only with his stupid haircut. So, I'm onto Last Stand Mode now, and my first opponent is Title Defense Kaiser.
EDIT: Okay...he's down. My 2nd opponent...what the hell...Title Defense Piston Hondo. What bullshit. This has to be the worst draw for Title Defense.
I tried the classic controls today for the first time. I immediately noticed a huge flaw. You can't navigate the menus using the d-pad. Did anyone at Nintendo even try this before release? I mean, for fuck's sake, they even highlight the menu items as though you could use the d-pad, but you still can't.
I didn't notice much of a change in my response times using the buttons vs motion control.
I tried Sandman today a few times. I can almost beat him. So far, this game has been a decent challenge. A few were laughingly easy on the first try (Aran Ryan, for example), but many take at least a few tries to get the timing down.
I spent an hour trying to figure out how to knock off Hippo's crown. ;)
KingBroly
05-29-2009, 08:17 PM
Still going through Last Stand. I haven't lost through 4 matches: Von Kaiser, Piston Hondo, Mr. Sandman, then Von Kaiser again. My next opponent is Great Tiger. I'm sort of hesitant to face this opponent, as I've been hesitant to face every opponent in Last Stand so far. At least until I get to 10 wins. When I defeated Mr. Sandman in Last Stand, he didn't touch me once, so I'm happy about that.
EDIT: Beat my fifth opponent. Who's #6? Why the train of BS opponents continues for me as I will be squaring off against Bald Bull. WTF!?
lustyhitter
05-30-2009, 11:05 PM
I bought a Wii two days ago and rented Punch-Out!!.
The game is just a nostalgic kick. It plays just like the games of old that I loved playing throughout the 1980's and 90's. Perfect controls, sweet looking graphics, tons of character and a lot of fun to play.
I blew through the entire Contender's Mode easily. I did get past TD Glass Joe but TD Terminator Von Kaiser is giving me fits.
I, however, can't recommend paying $68 CAN for this. When even the EB guy says he wouldn't buy it, that says something. A week long rental will give me enough of a fill. I'm saving my boxing money for Fight Night Round 4. If you own a Wii, however, this is a must rent and I guess a buy if you don't have a PS3 or Xbox 360 for FNR4. I figure it will top the sales charts in May. It's a very fun and well-made game but it does lack the legs that makes FNR4 much more enticing.
KingBroly
05-31-2009, 05:26 AM
Whew...I just finished off 2 more fighters in Last Stand Mode including DK himself (via decision). Don't be fooled by videos of people fighting him, because he's extremely tricky. If you get a 2nd knockdown on him in a round, he'll basically throw a 6 hit combo on you for a knockdown unless you can dodge it.
So that means I'm 8-0 in Last Stand Mode and am about to face Great Tiger again (my 2nd re-fight in Last Stand). Hopefully he's as easy as last time. And once I get my 10th win, I'm losing 3 straight so I can just end it.
EDIT: And that's that. Got to 10 (Glass Joe, HAHA!), lost my Belt to Great Tiger, then Glass Joe again and finally Hondo ended it. I made an SD card save just in case I want to go back. Probably won't, but it's been an awesome ride.
rothgar24
05-31-2009, 08:40 PM
My punch out skills must be lacking because I thought Sandman was fucking hard and rewarding to beat. Even title defense glass joe beat me a few times. Overall the game is a lot of fun and challenging (for me). I'm no KingBroly.
I can't wait to pack it home at some point and have my brothers try it out. I remember us renting Mike Tyson's punch out (game and the NES system) from the Safeway grocery store when I was a kid. They'll love this game.
BlizzardCyclone
06-03-2009, 02:07 PM
Anyone interested in selling their used Punchout at a reasonable price, please PM me! Thanks!
PhoenixAZ
06-06-2009, 01:50 AM
In terms of rating the game on a Buy/Rent/Pass level, I would rate this game a "Rent". It was fun to play, nostalgic to see the old characters re-imagined with today's graphics, but I found the game play to be a little boring and repetitive.
evergoo
06-14-2009, 10:39 PM
Finally beat this game on Title Defense and it's the first Punch-Out I've ever beaten. Hehe. Played the others but eventually got too frustrated. Maybe because I was impatient at that time. :lol:
Anyways, my awesome sauce retired record was 26-64 (22 KOs) and 0-3 in Last Stand. :rofl: The last circuit for Title Defense was ridiculously difficult. It felt like some super long game of Simon Says because I had to memorize so many patterns. The hardest foe for me was probably Bald Bull since I had to milk the clock and memorize 3 rounds of patterns in order to win by decision.
Anyways, I'm looking to sell this game (cml, $40 shipped) and can't wait for Fight Night Round 4! I fell in love with boxing thanks to FNR2. Plus, I never played FNR3 so I should be in for a treat. :bouncy:
I finally got around to trying the head-to-head mode last night. My wife has never played a Punch Out game in her life, so needless to say, it was a blowout. It takes some getting used to in this mode, since every punch is delayed (I assume to give the opponent time to react) and if you miss a punch, you are wide open for a relatively long time.
I just got done watching her play through single player mode. It is both hilarious and frustrating to watch someone actually lose to King Hippo over and over. She still has no idea how to beat him.
Beat Sandman today. It's funny how hard some of the opponents seem when you first meet them, then a few tries later and they are easy.
RCS0926
06-23-2009, 01:20 PM
I just bought this game on ebay, so I'm looking forward to playing it in a few days. I bought Super Punchout on the VC a few weeks ago, so I'm know I'm going to enjoy the Wii version with its smoother graphics, animation and controls.
crunchewy
06-23-2009, 02:27 PM
I'll finally get to play this game tommorrow night - my wife is giving it to me for my bday. Yeah!
crunchewy
06-27-2009, 12:45 PM
I actually only got a chance to play Punchout today, but wow it's a great game! I've been playing with remote+nunchuck. It's a bit of a workout that way and really fun. I haven't had problems with these controls so far, though I'm only on the major circuit now. So far, though, I've not felt that the controls did me in, rather my mistakes.
RCS0926
06-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Just got the game last night, and I played it for 2 hours, which I had not planned on doing. I played through the first 2 circuits with motion controls and didn't really have problems until I faced Great Tiger and Don Flamenco. DF, in particular, rocked me good because I kept dodging too early when he threw his delayed uppercut. Afterwards, I messed around in Exhibition Mode trying to figure out how to get my star punches, and I ended up completing some of the challenges in the process. This is going to be a great pick-up-n-play game for me.
Lawyers Guns N Money
06-30-2009, 04:34 PM
If you haven't bought this game yet, keep an eye out for a coupon in the mail. I got a coupon from Nintendo (or it may have been amazon.com, I'm not quite sure) in the mail today with a code for $5 off the game at Amazon.
Melatonin
07-12-2009, 11:55 AM
Just got the game two days ago. I'm attempting to stick with the motion controls the whole time. Up to TD Disco Kid now.
KingBroly
07-12-2009, 06:55 PM
World Circuit S with motion controls...(remembers the horror)
*curls up in a corner rocking back and forth slowly trying to think happy thoughts
pygmy carnotaur
07-13-2009, 07:49 PM
I just wanted to say that I still love this game, and even though I'm never going to lose a fight I just keep playing anyway. My record is something like 300-19 now in career mode. At this point I'm always trying to find more creative and efficient ways to beat everyone. My favorite moment was when I figured out how to infinite combo TD Don Flamenco on my own, and then immediately used that to get all of his challenges completed in exhibition.
I don't know that I'll ever finish all of the challenges in this game, but I have about 75% of them finished. If you ask me this game has tons of replay value, I have never even touched the two player mode yet either.
Cao Cao
08-06-2009, 03:49 PM
http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/punchout/vol1_page1.jsp
NoA posted an Iwata Asks: Punch-Out!! article. It mostly goes over the development history of all the entries in the series, and offers a few interesting tidbits from anecdotes, like how Donkey Kong and Laserdisc games contributed to the decision to develop the arcade title.
saggypockets
08-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Hey i have a kind of dumb question. When little mac collects stars, how do you use them in order for him to make a bigger punch?
saggypockets
08-19-2009, 11:34 PM
nvm i figuered it out.
BondJamesBond
08-22-2009, 05:28 PM
I enjoyed Punchout. Totally nostalgic. I used to have the handheld game. It's a natural for the Wii and good characters. I rented it for a couple weeks, almost bought it but then decided to return it.