VP Debate: Biden vs. Palin... Pt. 1, Before the storm [Mobile/Archive]

Koggit

10-02-2008, 04:16 PM

I don't really get that cartoon, seems pretty dumb

Biden no doubt trounces her -- without even trying. He won't really attack her, I don't think, he'll just give good answers to questions addressing issues while Palin spouts nonsense. America will be enlightened -- competence next to incompetence on the same stage, her idiocy will be evident to all.

Dead of Knight

10-02-2008, 04:16 PM

Great cartoon. :lol: I will reserve all judgment until the debate, but to answer the OP questions...

-Biden will likely try to be more careful so he doesn't come off as an attack dog, though I really wish he wouldn't be. Palin needs to be decimated. Even so, he will come up with good, sound answers to the questions so that he will trounce her without even trying.
-Palin will only prove herself to the base that blindly loves her already. Everyone else already thinks she's the worst VP choice in history, or close to it.
-Obviously Biden will win hands down, even if the McCain campaign runs ads before the debate saying Palin won. I see they haven't done that this time though, unlike last Friday's Presidential debate. ;)

Edit: Koggit nailed it.

cochesecochese

10-02-2008, 04:19 PM

Come on Biden, use some guile. I want to see some GOTCHA style debating.

Friend of Sonic

10-02-2008, 04:25 PM

http://www.data-hosting.eu/images.php?img=PalinWeens1.jpg

dmaul1114

10-02-2008, 04:29 PM

I'm voted for a tie.

It's almost a no-lose situation for Palin. She's getting slammed lately after the Couric interview etc. If she does anything but make a complete ass out of herself then people will think she did well as we're all expecting a disaster.

Also, Biden has a knack for putting his foot in his mouth. I think Biden has a lot to lose here, and Palin has pretty much nothing to lose as she'll almost definitely exceed everyone's low expectations.

Dr Mario Kart

10-02-2008, 04:30 PM

Biden should not attack her at all. Ignore her and do what she hasnt been able to: Answer the damn questions.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9248/dinosaurpalinht1.jpg
I am gonna get so drunk

freakyzeeky

10-02-2008, 04:32 PM

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9248/dinosaurpalinht1.jpg
I am gonna get so drunk

:lol:

That is SO awesome...

Chase

10-02-2008, 04:50 PM

If she rode into the debate on a dinosaur, I would feel compelled to vote for her.

Also, for warm-up...

http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/1473/a1305814720004.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a1305814720004) http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/1473/5fcec414720007.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5fcec414720007)

bewbs :hot:

vherub

10-02-2008, 04:54 PM

I voted tie.
The people who already know who they are going to vote for have already declared the winner.
People who are undecided won't be impacted enough for it to determine how they vote come election day.

Strell

10-02-2008, 05:03 PM

http://www.palinbingo.com/

zenprime

10-02-2008, 05:04 PM

I think polls wise, Palin's going to come out ahead from this. I expect Biden to be better on the issues and crap, but will come off as condescending and that will set the Palin base into a whole Biden-is-sexist uproar.

thrustbucket

10-02-2008, 05:04 PM

Strell

10-02-2008, 05:17 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Einzell/roflmfaobestpicever.jpg

>:)__________)

cochesecochese

10-02-2008, 05:21 PM

Surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that the moderator is writing a book about Obama (which she didn't disclose when she was chosen). For some reason, that's going to be the interesting thing for me while watching this, to see how or if the moderator gives advantage to Biden.

Even though Ifill didn't disclose the contents of her book when selected, the Republican party has been aware of the book's contents well in advance of the debates and has had the opportunity to protest her role as moderator. Furthermore although Obama is named in the title of the book its contents revolve around multiple black US politicians.

Are you, seriously, suggesting the she is willing to tank her career and reputation tonight just to help out her book sales?

freakyzeeky

10-02-2008, 05:25 PM

http://www.palinbingo.com/

Shit, we're going to play this at home with my brother and sister... :lol:

dmaul1114

10-02-2008, 05:25 PM

Yeah, I see no cause for concern.

Especially the format of the debate not allowing back and forth between the candidates. She really has to do little other than ask questions and make sure they stay within their time limits to answer.

vherub

10-02-2008, 05:28 PM

Surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that the moderator is writing a book about Obama (which she didn't disclose when she was chosen). For some reason, that's going to be the interesting thing for me while watching this, to see how or if the moderator gives advantage to Biden.

It's not really about obama, the book's focus is the civil rights events of 45 years ago allowing for black politicians to exercise a degree of political leadership. Ifill previously moderated in the 2004 election, is a professional journalist/moderator and has been recognized by her peers numerous times.
If anything, I would think that her writing a book would increase her sensitivity and ensure that the moderator makes the debate as neutral as possible. This is a non-issue that clouds the far more serious issues of what actions the candidates will take once in office.

bigdaddy

10-02-2008, 05:58 PM

Palin is supposedly going to go after Biden, which I think is an evil genius plan. Palin can't lose unless she falls on her face, literally. If Palin attacks Biden and Biden fights back he is attacking a poor dumb woman.

SpazX

10-02-2008, 06:35 PM

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9248/dinosaurpalinht1.jpg

That...is...awesome. Thank Gore for the internet!

Anyway, I agree with the others who are saying that people have such a terribly low level of expectation for Palin that she can't lose. I think she will do better than she did in the interviews and when she does it will look like she turned into some kind of genius overnight comparatively.

Chase

10-02-2008, 07:58 PM

I think Palin's expectations are so low that she can only do good tonight. She will be prepped with ready-made catch-phrases attacking Obama and Biden. She'll go out of her way not to say anything stupid.

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 08:08 PM

I think Palin's expectations are so low that she can only do good tonight.

i tend to agree with this statement. its just like her big convention speech, as long as she can go out and do it, itll be deemed a success. i have a feeling shell be able to do it. then the forum will light up about how stupid she is later tonight. (i voted for palin just for fun, i expect the debate to be in bidens hands)

Msut77

10-02-2008, 08:16 PM

i tend to agree with this statement. its just like her big convention speech, as long as she can go out and do it, itll be deemed a success.

Because reading a speech off a teleprompter is exactly like a debate.

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 08:21 PM

Because reading a speech off a teleprompter is exactly like a debate.

you missed the point

Strell

10-02-2008, 08:23 PM

I think she could just fart repeatedly on stage while holding a gun and Fox News would proclaim her the second coming.

Msut77

10-02-2008, 08:28 PM

you missed the point

The point being that her speech at the convention was a bag o' fail?

Strell

10-02-2008, 08:31 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Einzell/PALINWHIRL.gif

PALIN WHIRL

Dr Mario Kart

10-02-2008, 08:32 PM

Whats important is the swing vote/independents. They DONT have super low expectations, otherwise they are more likely to be very close or have already picked a side.

If they largely called the last one in favor of Obama when it wasnt a blowout, they should see through the bullshit on this one.

As long as Biden can avoid saying 'Bitch please', he should take it. With that said, it would be worth the loss to hear him say it.

GrilledWitOnions

10-02-2008, 08:35 PM

I think she could just fart repeatedly on stage while holding a gun and Fox News would proclaim her the second coming.
You are so consistenly one of my favorite posters. You should post in more threads I read. I love to just look at your avatar and sig about lobsters. In pants. Is that from something?

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 08:38 PM

The point being that her speech at the convention was a bag o' fail?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/435696513_e38ebe73ab.jpg

Msut77

10-02-2008, 08:46 PM

No seriously, her speech sucked and she is undoubtedly going to suck tonight.

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 08:51 PM

No seriously, her speech sucked and she is undoubtedly going to suck tonight.

no seriously, youre a troll.

Msut77

10-02-2008, 08:56 PM

no seriously, youre a troll.

Not at all and you sound even more like a whiny bitch every time you say it.

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 08:59 PM

Not at all and you sound even more like a whiny bitch every time you say it.

NO SERIOUSLY, YOURE A TROLL

Msut77

10-02-2008, 09:04 PM

NO SERIOUSLY, YOURE A TROLL

No need for a tantrum you whiny little titty baby.

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 09:05 PM

No need for a tantrum you whiny little titty baby.

no, seriously, you are a troll

Sporadic

10-02-2008, 09:06 PM

Biden is going to tear Palin apart...which is most likely going to backfire horribly. People are going to pity her saying shit like "that sleazy politician tore that poor scared women apart...what an asshole...Sarah Palin is a normal person like me :dunce:"

Reminds me of (something I read somewhere) where they said Bush won the 2000 debates because he didn't drop his shorts and start throwing shit at Gore like people were expecting him to do. As long as Palin doesn't break down in tears and start vomiting, she'll be considered the winner by alot of idiots people.

camoor

10-02-2008, 09:07 PM

How mad are Repubs that Ifill's book came out as a news story before the debate.

That was supposed to be their get-out-of-jail card after the debate. :lol:

cochesecochese

10-02-2008, 09:07 PM

Settle down, ladies.

Msut, RAM's point was that the expectations for Palin from her voter base are exceedingly low. She didn't have to make a dramatic, amazing or even coherent speech at the RNC; she only had to show up and make a speech period. By the same token she doesn't have to be a competent debater tonight. She only has to show up and bleat talking points and it will be enough to keep her base happy. FOX news will spin it until the next set of presidential debates.

Msut77

10-02-2008, 09:11 PM

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 09:18 PM

I do not think the semi literate Limbaugh fan had a point.

thanks for justifying my 3 previous posts (again)

Msut77

10-02-2008, 09:27 PM

thanks for justifying my 3 previous posts (again)

Are you going to deny you are a Limbaugh fan?

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 09:32 PM

Are you going to deny you are a Limbaugh fan?

now where would you get a silly little idea like that.

JJSP

10-02-2008, 09:37 PM

Sorta hoping Biden makes her cry.

Msut77

10-02-2008, 09:39 PM

now where would you get a silly little idea like that.

That you are a Limbaugh fan or that you would deny it?

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 09:47 PM

That you are a Limbaugh fan or that you would deny it?

do i really need to explain it to you in "thrustbucket" terms (as you say)

Msut77

10-02-2008, 09:48 PM

do i really need to explain it to you in "thrustbucket" terms (as you say)

If you please.

freakyzeeky

10-02-2008, 09:49 PM

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198977

Let's continue this convo over yonder, shall we? :)

RAMSTORIA

10-02-2008, 10:07 PM

If you please.

i do not listen to limbaugh. i do not watch him, i do not read his words. i dont visit his website and i never discuss him except when im trapped in a corner by my nutty neo-con uncle.

why would you think im a limbaugh fan. ive never once claimed to be nor have i given any reason to make that assumption. in this thread i made a simple point about the low expectations regarding palins performance tonight. a point which, evidently, when right over your head and was graced with one comments with your usual smug attitude. then, when another forum member is kind enough to explain my point to you, you call me a "semi literate Limbaugh fan" for no apparant reason other than to satisfy your own pompous perspective. so you see, thats why i called you a troll. because you constantly come into this forum and flame other posters with such intelligent posts down the lines of "youre an idiot because you think something that i dont like" or when you feel like just making your presense felt youll reply with a simple "no" reply with no explantion or defense. its a shame to, because every once in awhile you make a good point, but on the next page you resort to childish name calling if someone continues to disagree with you. so maybe you can do us a favor and try and work out your sensible posts to doltish posts ratio. if you do that, then maybe by the end of the year you can move up from forum troll to forum gnome or whatever it is thats above troll.

Msut77

10-02-2008, 10:21 PM

why would you think im a limbaugh fan.

I saw something you wrote.

rumor has it people name msut smell. lets this offically be the
beginning of the anti-smelly posters club. aka the rush fan club.

Now it is possible that you are merely a fan of the band Rush but considering your ridiculous reticence I would lean towards you being a closet Limbaugh listener.

As for you being semi-literate look at your own goddamn posts, I am being kind by even adding the "semi".

so you see, thats why i called you a troll.

Let us clear something up here. You call me a troll when you have nothing else to say and you would rather lie than admit it.

you feel like just making your presense felt youll reply with a simple "no" reply with no explantion or defense.

Let us go look at a recent example, perhaps this one http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4918816#post4918816

My responses (and patience) were rewarded with silence and then a nonsensical post bitching about how some crazy people may get help on your dime.

There are countless threads where I make decent posts (if I say so myself) sometimes it is not worth it and sometimes I make fun of the whiny idiot brigade and yes that includes your bitchy ass.

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 01:27 AM

I saw something you wrote.

Now it is possible that you are merely a fan of the band Rush but considering your ridiculous reticence I would lean towards you being a closet Limbaugh listener.

oh wow, i totally forgot i wrote that. i was pretty smashed that night. im hilarious when im drunk. i just checked thrust's profile, doesnt seem to be in there anymore. so that means he either deleted after you made that post or youve been saving that for a rainy day in a word file... i hope its the prior.

As for you being semi-literate look at your own goddamn posts, I am being kind by even adding the "semi".

i know the insults are your ace in the hold... but really, youre the only one that seems to complain about my comprehension or writing. sorry i dont proof read my posts buddy, guess youll just have to live with the occasional spelling or grammatical error.

Let us clear something up here. You call me a troll when you have nothing else to say and you would rather lie than admit it.

Let us go look at a recent example, perhaps this one http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4918816#post4918816

My responses (and patience) were rewarded with silence and then a nonsensical post bitching about how some crazy people may get help on your dime.

There are countless threads where I make decent posts (if I say so myself) sometimes it is not worth it and sometimes I make fun of the whiny idiot brigade and yes that includes your bitchy ass.

sorry i dont keep track of each and every thread that i post in. when i notice, i respond. but it doesnt always work that way. i myself admitted that you do have a worthwhile post from time to time, and as i said before, its a shame you have to muddle those with school yard insults and holier than thou posts.

thrustbucket

10-03-2008, 01:30 AM

wasting your time, ramastoria.....

You're dealing with, by far, the most prepubescent behaving CAG there is, on more ignore lists than anyone else. Only interested in antagonizing, not discussion. But, if you are really bored, knock yourself out.

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 01:31 AM

Msut77

10-03-2008, 01:32 AM

All I am going to say is "occasional"?

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 01:40 AM

All I am going to say is "occasional"?

no, i meant to say "a worthwhile" instead of "the occasional worthwhile". like i said, i dont proof read my posts, ill fix it if it makes you feel better.

Msut77

10-03-2008, 01:43 AM

no, i meant to say "a worthwhile" instead of "the occasional worthwhile". like i said, i dont proof read my posts, ill fix it if it makes you feel better.

I was talking about your belief that you only make occasional errors.

P.s. You do realize that you have pretty much admitted to lying your ass off about being a Limbaugh fan right?

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 01:47 AM

I was talking about your belief that you only make occasional errors.

P.s. You do realize that you have pretty much admitted to lying your ass off about being a Limbaugh fan right?

oh come off it you grammar whore.

and im not sure where i was caught lying about being a rush fan, other than an drunken comment on a profile which didnt have a hint of truth to it.

but really, was that in his profile today or did you save it? im dying to know.

Msut77

10-03-2008, 01:49 AM

and im not sure where i was caught lying about being a rush fan, other than an drunken comment on a profile which didnt have a hint of truth to it.

People do silly things while drinking, but admitting to being a Rush Limbaugh fan is not something that happens like running around pantless. So I will just chalk up to you telling fibs again.

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 01:52 AM

People do silly things while drinking, admitting to being a Rush Limbaugh fan is not usually one of them.

youre still confusing "admitting to" with "joking about".

Msut77

10-03-2008, 01:58 AM

youre still confusing "admitting to" with "joking about".

I just don't see it and it is not as if anyone should trust your word anyway.

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 02:03 AM

I just don't see it and it is not as if anyone should trust your word anyway.

alrighty, i think were done here.

Msut77

10-03-2008, 02:10 AM

alrighty, i think were done here.

We have been done, it just took you this long to notice.

thrustbucket

10-03-2008, 03:34 AM

as long as youre here. did you delete my drunken wit from your profile today, or before today?

Eh? Not sure what you are talking about. I haven't touched my profile.

RAMSTORIA

10-03-2008, 11:10 AM

Eh? Not sure what you are talking about. I haven't touched my profile.

msuts quote that "proved" i was a rush fan was a comment i had posted in your profile (while drunk), but its not there anymore. i figured you had deleted it. but if you didnt that leaves only two other options... i posted it in someone elses profile, which im 99.9% sure that i didnt. or msut copied that quote to save for later and then reported to a mod to have it removed. one of those scenarios is more interesting than the other.