Metroid Prime Trilogy - Out of Print (Thanks, Nintendo!)

[mykevermin]

If memory serves, about (arbitrary numbers coming up!) 2/3 of the internet community loved MP3's controls, and about 1/3 said they were the worst thing on the face of the fucking planet. So, extrapolating those numbers into the real world, everybody but about 30 lonely bitches loved the controls for the game.

I'm a little perturbed that they're Wii *only* controls - that someone has gone to the effort to remove the GC controls. But I'm also uncool with the $30 pricepoint. I'm sure you'll give kids Nintendo boners all day long if you released SSBM at that price, but Metroid Prime 2? I may pick them up if I can buy them both together for $20-30, but certainly not individually.

[lilboo]

So who is gonna be the bait and buy Metroid Prime 1 or 2 with waggle? I got MP3 as a gift which sits collecting dust only because I haven't gotten around to beating the first two - which I may do if the Wii controls simplifies things a lot more but I'm still unsure at the $30 price tag, these things should be $20 or less.

Didn't MP3 deliver massive pwnage with It's controls?

I got Metroid Prime for $7 at the Kmart clearance with the wavebird. I tried it, but didn't like it at all. So I never played through it, and never looked at Metroid Prime 2.

I did get Metroid Prime 3 and loved it. I thought the controls where spot on. Since they are just doing that for Metroid Prime 1 & 2, I certainly think I am going to enjoy these 2 games.

I agree with Myke. I don't think I'll get both games at $30 each. I AM going to get both games, but I hope, I HOPE there's some kind of sale price ..or I have some coupon or giftcard somewhere. Getting both games for ~40 would do it for me.

I also think it's a bit ridiculous that it's Wii ONLY controls. At LEAST they aren't charging $50 for them. If they were, I would not buy them. Not even on sale. [-(

[BlueLobstah]

If memory serves, about (arbitrary numbers coming up!) 2/3 of the internet community loved MP3's controls, and about 1/3 said they were the worst thing on the face of the fucking planet. So, extrapolating those numbers into the real world, everybody but about 30 lonely bitches loved the controls for the game.


For me, I haven't been a big fan of playing FPS type controls on a console (Goldeneye aside), and Metroid Prime & 2 played very similarly in that aspect. I'm certain it wasn't a bad game by any means, but the control scheme change from 1 & 2 to Corruption was a welcome change for me and allowed me to get into the series.

$30 does seem a little expensive if you've already played the game, but its not like you will be in any rush to buy it on day 1 anyone. I'm sure you'll be able to find it for $20-25 within a month or so of its release.

For me on the other hand, having played neither game the $30 price point is almost perfect for me, but of course I'm going to try and get it for cheaper if I can. I have some GS gift cards lying around that I need to use.

[crunchewy]

liboo - so far I haven't encountered bad Wii controls except in one respect, which I'll get to further down. Mario Kart Wii - the controls are fantastic with a Wii Remote and nunchuck and actually I really like the game with the Wii Wheel. We have GC controllers but none of us have even wanted to use them with it. Super Mario Galaxy plays great. Animal Crossing - the controls work well. Super Paper Mario - I haven't played it a lot, but for the bit that I have, the Wii Remote scheme worked well here too and my son is having absolutely no difficulty with it. I can't see the need for a GC controller with it, and the searching with the remote feature is pretty cool. So, I guess I'm not seeing where there is any evidence that the controls don't work. In fact they work well. However...

... there is a case where the controls don't work, and maybe this is the source of the problems you've had? The Wii remotes are too sensitive to light. In fact, we found that with our Christmas tree lights on (the Christmas tree is right next to our TV), the Wii is virtually unusable. That's because the Wii remotes think all those gazillion lights on the tree are all the Wii sensor bar and it goes crazy! Moreover, where we have the TV set up normally, there are two small, square windows, one up and to the left of the TV and one up and to the right of the TV, but with the xmas tree up we have to push the TV under the left window. Well, in the mornings the light comes in that window and that messes up the Wii remotes too! I had to cut out a square piece of cardboard and block that window so we could more easily play in the mornings. I'm pretty disappointed in how picky the Wii is about light, but if you get it set up right, it does work great.

EDIT: Also FPS on consoles have always been completely unplayable for me - analog sticks for FPS suck big time. I haven't had the chance to play MP3 yet, but I do have hope that the Wii Remote scheme will be the saving grace for console FPS's. Of course, I'm a bit tired of FPS anyway, so I'm not really all that excited about it, but when I can pick it up cheap I'll get it.

[bmulligan]

Fixed :)
No no, I'm not trolling.. but I think the problem with a lot of Wii games is the same as the "golf" reasoning. The controls just don't work. :(

There's a lot of truth to that. Unless it's a clean and jerk, or overt movement, all subtlety is lost on smaller, more precise motions. This is why Motion Plus ought to be a welcome addition and greatly expand gameplay options and implementations. It's a more full realization of the Wii concept. Hopefully Nintendo will include it with new consoles this year and push the add-on so that it become the standard instead of an under-supported peripheral.

[wii skiier]

There's a lot of truth to that. Unless it's a clean and jerk, or overt movement, all subtlety is lost on smaller, more precise motions. This is why Motion Plus ought to be a welcome addition and greatly expand gameplay options and implementations. It's a more full realization of the Wii concept. Hopefully Nintendo will include it with new consoles this year and push the add-on so that it become the standard instead of an under-supported peripheral.
I'm with crucnhychewy in that I have yet to have a problem with Wii "controls". The times I have had problems it has been with specific games, generally with poor development. When the development is good, the controls work exactly as promised by that specific game.

Motion Plus will not solve the problem of poorly developed games. Yes, it will open the door for a few new kinds of games, but not necessarily better games. Since it's just a variation on the existing theme, designers who don't understand the current scheme are just going to further bastardize it with more sensitive controls.

I guess my real question (besides the golf one that's been answered that at this point seems to be a matter of personal preference) is what kind of magical Motion Plus experience are you looking for? What would be something that would be impossible with current remotes that would only be possible with 1:1 detection?

Also, I'm with lilboo in that I could not even deal with MP1 with Gamecube controls but loved MP3 and the controls.

[tsmvengy]

There's a lot of truth to that. Unless it's a clean and jerk, or overt movement, all subtlety is lost on smaller, more precise motions. This is why Motion Plus ought to be a welcome addition and greatly expand gameplay options and implementations. It's a more full realization of the Wii concept. Hopefully Nintendo will include it with new consoles this year and push the add-on so that it become the standard instead of an under-supported peripheral.
The Trauma Center games require plenty of small and precise movements and I have never had a problem playing those. Of course those are pointing controls not accelerometer ones.

I have never had much problem with the Wii controls. The only flaw I have seen are the putting controls in Wii Sports Golf, and that can be fixed with practice. I figured them out when I realized that it wasn't like swinging a putter in real life, because it's not measuring 3D motion, just the acceleration of the controller in one direction. The trick is to realize that the controller is just measuring acceleration when the wiimote is oriented straight up WRT gravity. So if you swing with a soft contact through that position you will get the shot you want. It does take practice though.

[wii skiier]

The trick is to realize that the controller is just measuring acceleration when the wiimote is oriented straight up WRT gravity. So if you swing with a soft contact through that position you will get the shot you want. It does take practice though.
You articulate this pretty well. Even people who understand the theory have a hard time understanding how it translates their movements into a game.

[bmulligan]

Motion Plus will not solve the problem of poorly developed games. Yes, it will open the door for a few new kinds of games, but not necessarily better games. Since it's just a variation on the existing theme, designers who don't understand the current scheme are just going to further bastardize it with more sensitive controls.

You're absolutely right about developer laziness relating to control issues. But there's another side to the story. Nintendo isn't being very helpful to their third party developers in the technology and information sharing department. The fact that they successfully withheld the development of Motion Plus from all other developers exemplifies this perfectly. It's almost as if they're purposefully sabotaging other companies so that only their own 1st party titles perform and sell the best - Wii Golf notwithstanding.

... what kind of magical Motion Plus experience are you looking for? What would be something that would be impossible with current remotes that would only be possible with 1:1 detection?


Putting. It's an absolute joke for the golf games that depend on it. I've put hours into WiiGolf and Tiger Woods and tried to be patient, make slow and purposeful movements and it's still a crapshoot that my 12 foot putt goes in the hole instead of across the green 25 yards.

[Friend of Sonic]

Maybe Nintendo has regressed into not giving a shit about third party support. Their outreach to those companies and to get them to develop for Wii seemed so promising, but the way they handled Wii Motion plus was absurd.

[Kaijufan]

WiiFolder (http://wiifolder.com/?p=145) posted a very detailed Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Demo. He goes into a lot of detail on the differences between the Gamecube and Wii version.

Edit: They also have a Pikmin video (http://wiifolder.com/?p=144)

[snipegod]

Putting. It's an absolute joke for the golf games that depend on it. I've put hours into WiiGolf and Tiger Woods and tried to be patient, make slow and purposeful movements and it's still a crapshoot that my 12 foot putt goes in the hole instead of across the green 25 yards.

It's no crapshoot when many people can sink shots consistently and reliably.

[io]

Didn't MP3 deliver massive pwnage with It's controls?

IMO, yes, it did.

If memory serves, about (arbitrary numbers coming up!) 2/3 of the internet community loved MP3's controls, and about 1/3 said they were the worst thing on the face of the fucking planet. So, extrapolating those numbers into the real world, everybody but about 30 lonely bitches loved the controls for the game.


This is about what I remember too. Though there is a third category who maybe didn't care about the controls and who normally like FPS type games but wouldn't play it because it wasn't HD/multiplayer (like Cheapy, perhaps? ;)).

[bmulligan]

It's no crapshoot when many people can sink shots consistently and reliably.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be insulting or personal in my next paragraph. My angst isn't directed towards you specifically, it's simply that my frustration with the Wii controls and the difference between my assumptions of their capabilities and their actual performance after I purchased it have brought me to this state of perturbedness.

Your statement that includes "consistently and reliably" is compelling me to this response: You're are delusioned.

Maybe "unplayable" was a zealous overstatement, or purposefully hyperbolic to demonstrate my frustration, but there's no way you or anyone else can reliably sink puts with the WiiMote. Maybe I have a defective Wii, or a bum WiiMote, because that can be the only alternative. And because there's an entire faction of people who are just as frustrated as I am, I'm inclined to believe in the delusional theory. If the Wii were capable of such fine control, aside from lightsabering, there wouldn't be much of a need for Motion Plus to begin with.

[BlueLobstah]

Maybe "unplayable" was a zealous overstatement, or purposefully hyperbolic to demonstrate my frustration, but there's no way you or anyone else can reliably sink puts with the WiiMote. Maybe I have a defective Wii, or a bum WiiMote, because that can be the only alternative. And because there's an entire faction of people who are just as frustrated as I am, I'm inclined to believe in the delusional theory. If the Wii were capable of such fine control, aside from lightsabering, there wouldn't be much of a need for Motion Plus to begin with.


And that's just exactly it. There are just some games that the current technology inside the Wiimote can not handle. It works great for anything that requires large motions. This is why bowling, baseball, etc. works so well. Anything that requires small precise hand movements just fails to translate (aside from the pointer) hence the serious issues with putting.

But it would be hard to argue without WiiMotion+ that anyone can reliably and consistently perform said putting movements; its just not possible. At least not with the current technology. It would have been simply better for them to revert to the old standard of "hold button down for power" until the technology proved adequate enough to produce a consistency in the controls.

[wii skiier]

If the Wii were capable of such fine control, aside from lightsabering, there wouldn't be much of a need for Motion Plus to begin with.
I don't think anyone's taking this discussion as unfriendly, and I believe all your points are valid based on plenty of other similar experiences. But for every disappointing experience like yours, it feels like I see/hear/read of four accounts that are pleased (primarily outside "gaming" communities like CAG).

I don't doubt that putting is frustrating for you because I have a friend who is constantly frustrated with Wii Sports Golf and Tiger Woods in the same way you describe. I also don't doubt that snipegod can putt consistently, because I can without issue as well and after practice my 60+ year-old father was able to also.

I pulled out your quote from above because I really do believe that the Wii is cabale of such fine control - to an extent. And though that extent is more limited than Motion Plus, I also believe that 1:1 will not add anything because 95% of Wii games with motion controls have not fully realized the capabilities of the existing control method.

In "Return of the GameCube game news", if I get a chance tonight or tomorrow I will play the ported Jungle Beat and Pikmin and post my impressions.

[lilboo]

I pulled out your quote from above because I really do believe that the Wii is cabale of such fine control - to an extent. And though that extent is more limited than Motion Plus, I also believe that 1:1 will not add anything because 95% of Wii games with motion controls have not fully realized the capabilities of the existing control method.


That right there makes me disappointed in the Wii. It's been OVER 2 years now and we only have a slight handful of games that really use the controls exceptionally well.

ATTENTION PEOPLE WHO GET OFFENDED BY Wii STUFF: I SAID HANDFUL OF GAMES THAT CONTROL EXCEPTIONALLY WELL--NOT "GOOD GAMES IN GENERAL"

[wii skiier]

That right there makes me disappointed in the Wii. It's been OVER 2 years now and we only have a slight handful of games that really use the controls exceptionally well.

Yeah, it stinks. But there are also some very good games that don't use motion controls at all, which I really appreciate. Last night after a marathon of Wii Sports, Boom Blox and Rock Band 2 I was exhausted and ready to plop on my ass. De Blob was waiting for me and I was happy to have the limited motion controls. My fear when I first got the Wii was that every game would try to have motion controls. I'm prefectly happy with something like Fire Emblem alongside MP3 because there's really no reason that the sideways remote or remote/nunchuk combo can't function as a traditional controller for certain games.

[soonersfan60]

Nintendo couldn't tell developers about Wii Motion + too early or they might have delayed development of their best games.

[crunchewy]

I don't doubt that golf games that try to use motion control for putting don't work well. I haven't actually played any of them (not even the one in WiiSports yet), but I can imagine that it wouldn't work well. However, that doesn't cancel out all the games that do work well with the Wii's existing controls. So, yeah, if you're primary purpose for getting a Wii is to have a motion-controlled golf game, you are going to be majorly disappointed. Perhaps this will be alleviated by MotionPlus, but we shall see.

For me, golf games aren't high on my list, so this hasn't been a big deal to me. Plus if it bothered me I'd just play a Gamecube golf game or one on the PS2 or something else and play other stuff on the Wii. Hopefully some developer, perhaps Nintendo, will be smart enough to not even attempt to provide motion control for putting, at least not in a swing the club fashion. There may be other ways to do it with motion that would work better. Developers have to work with what's actually possible and not try to force the issue... and/or wait for MotionPlus, but once that's here, if it can't do it either, come up with a control scheme that does work well and don't pretend like it can do what it can't.

[Lone_Prodigy]

It would be funny to see DKJB be compatible with GH/RB drums. Of course that would never happen.

And with regards to motion controls: waggle because it's there is bad (see: most shovelware/PS2 ports). Waggle as a supplement (see: Galaxy) can be done very well. Waggle for pointing (see: MP3, RE4, Trauma Center) can pwn if done well and is appropriate for the game.

But I have to say that the remote/nunchuk do not substitute a "true" controller for certain games: namely, Brawl and Mario Kart.

[wii skiier]

But I have to say that the remote/nunchuk do not substitute a "true" controller for certain games: namely, Brawl and Mario Kart.
I would have to disagree here as well, although what makes a "true" controller could lead to endless arguments over semantics. In the sense that you have a direction-sensitive controller and several action buttons available (none of which require IR or motion sensing) it works as a traditional controller for me. I have played Brawl and Mario Kart with that setup and didn't notice anything lacking, and lately have been playing Tatsunoko vs Capcom with that setup. There are fewer buttons than some recent controllers and the comfort level may vary, but that can be said of any controller (I ranted against the GC controller for comfort and layout reasons earlier in this thread).

[crunchewy]

But I have to say that the remote/nunchuk do not substitute a "true" controller for certain games: namely, Brawl and Mario Kart.

I've never played Brawl and in fact I've never played Mario Kart with Remote & Nunchuck (only wheel, which I find fun, tough I'm sure it's not the best control, I do find that it works well). However, my kids and my nephews (older) all swear by the remote and nunchuck over a Gamecube controller for Mario Kart Wii and my older nephew is damn good at the game.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I play Wii Sports Golf at least once a week and its fine for me. I sink some hardcore distance shots, the main struggle is getting within putting range with the last shot being the birdie shot.

I can largely take shots without practice swings, especially the max distance shots.

[snipegod]

My buddy and I play Wii a few times a week, and we almost always start or finish with a game of Wii Sports Golf. Just as with DMK, on most tee-off shots I take no practice swing and rarely fudge up the power. That's not that hard ... if I were to say I take most of my putter shots without a practice swing, then we, Bmulligan, would really be in a downright fight. But there's more than enough room for common ground in our arguments.

Putting IS difficult. The plateau for the highest power shot is not a slow slope ... the precise level of acceleration that the game wants for the difference between a 2 power shot (using the 4 sections of the power bar) and a 4 power shot are not that far apart. It's easy to practice a certain power a couple of times and then put just a tad too much arm strength into the Wiimote and then you end up with much more power than you wanted in-game. And the opposite is also true.

So, it's not that the putting is instantly perfect or that the control input could not be advanced technologically in the future by, perhaps, Motion+, or even that many players are frustrated (but then, so are all those reviewers who write shit because they can't, don't, or won't understand how to properly control a Wii game) ... but that plenty have taken the time to understand the minute differences of the control and been able to produce consistent, reliable, and accurate shots on or off the green.

I think Wii Sports Golf is the best golf game on the Wii to date. And I don't think it's a hassle to play or to learn to play, but obviously we disagree there.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I actually get strangely good results putting when I ignore the meter and just look at the pole and just shoot it like I were actually shooting it for reals. A lot of times practicing messes me up because I'm too focused on replicating the power I put into the practice shots.

[Doomed]

In Wii Sports, putting for me is either full power, almost no power, or if I'm lucky, halfway.

[KingBroly]

The people who hated MP3's controls didn't customize their controls I believe it was set it to Advanced or whatever it's called) and/or tried to play with their arms hanging in the air, which is just the wrong way to play any Wii game besides a specific handful.

[Kaijufan]

But I have to say that the remote/nunchuk do not substitute a "true" controller for certain games: namely, Brawl and Mario Kart.

What?

You can map every move you need in Brawl to the buttons on the Wiimote and nunchuck. You can also map pretty much any move to any button so it would be pretty hard for someone to find a button scheme on the Wiimote and nunchuck they can't work with.

And using the Wiimote and nunchuck in Mario Kart Wii is superioir to using a Classic Controller or Gamecube controller since you don't have to take your finger off the analog stick to use wheelie or to do tricks.

[M-PG71C]

All I can say is that motion controls, like it or not, is the future of gaming and honestly, I really do like where the Wii is going. It is primitive, but it is taking the first step in evolving gaming through input rather than through output. I think in due time, motion controls will become perfected and it'll become the new gold standard.

[wii skiier]

To get this thread sort of back on track (not that I am not enjoying the other discussions going on), I played through the first three or four levels of the Wii version of Donkey Kong Jungle Beat last night (I stopped and saved after the part where you punch the giant monkey a lot).

I should reiterate that not only had I never played this game before, I had never even seen it played. This means that some of what I say will be describing what many of you have already seen, and I really can't say what was changed aside from the obvious control method.

From the opening screen, the game really shines graphically. I don't know if this has anything to do with the 480p boost, but I was immediately reminded of the first time I saw Donkey Kong Country and how crisp everything was. The game opens with a fake "level" that you have to traverse to get to the menu. This works really well because it forces you to learn the controls before you start playing. If you can't read the instructions posted on various signs, there are also little monkeys that follow you around and wave Wii remotes to show you where to swing the remote. They do this constantly, so if you stand still in just the right place it looks like they are smacking you in the ass. This is especially satisfying if you are clapping at the angry oily pig while they smack your gorilla buttocks.

The controls are very straightforward. Movement is mapped to the nunchuk stick, A jumps, Z (or B, I can't remember now) hard drops to break stuff, and a quick whack of the Wii remote claps. You can aim the impact of the clap with the control stick very easily. There are quite a few times where you alternately beat the nunchuk and remote. So far this has come up when it's time to repeatedly punch a giant deformed brightly colored animal of some kind, grab bonus bananas at the end of a round, or get in extra punches on the giant monkey (I know - primate).

I had mentioned Donkey Kong Country earlier. Playing through the opening levels I felt the gameplay was much more like New Super Mario Bros than DKC. This was a good thing for me because I prefer the more restrictive feel of that kind of platformer. Aside from the odd floating animals, the only thing that really stood out was the fun of clapping. It's a very satisfying feeling to whack the remote, and the game world has a nice variety of objects to interact with by clapping (just like in the real jungle where you can clap to make mushrooms become engorged to 10 times their normal size).

The other reason the "whack" control scheme was satisfying was the sound from the remote. I usually turn off the remote sounds (it used to be because I didn't want to buy new batteries, now it's because I don't want to charge the batteries... because I am a cheap AND lazy bastard) in games after seeing what they are. Yeah, the sound is still crackling and tinny, but it's immediately gratifying in providing additional feedback for the motion you just performed with a little drum sound. When it is appropriate to use the nunchuk for whacking as well, it gets another little sound out of the remote.

I enjoyed the experience for the most part, and the only real disappointment for me was how generic some of the banana collecting felt but I suppose that is a pretty standard convention for this kind of game. It looks great, and I had no issues or control confusion picking up and playing immediately. For someone who never played on GC I'd say it's definitely worth a shot. For those of you who loved the game on GC it's a tough call. From the level design I saw, I can see how someone charmed by the unique control scheme on GC would be disappointed by this version. It feels very much like a 16-bit platformer. Many of us want this, but if you already have an attachment to the other version of the game the two things might be hard to separate.

I'm going to try Pikmin tonight if I get a chance...

[bluesyncopate]

Thanks for your review, wii skier. While I enjoyed the Wii Folder videos from earlier in the thread, that dude spend WAY too much time going over the basics. "I get it, just play the friggin' level already!"

[Lone_Prodigy]

To each their own. I played Brawl with remote/nunchuk at my cousin's house and was absolutely terrible. Mapping jump to C or pad-down just doesn't do it for me. With Mario Kart the controls are limited so it's not as hard, but driving with the wheel often has me drifting in the wrong direction. I'll chalk it up to inexperience, but I still prefer the GC controller for those games.

I've said it before, but the fewer buttons on the Wiimote/nunchuk combo does make me wary of MP3. I finished MP1 recently and found the GC controls to be seamless.

[The Crotch]

Don't worry about MP3. It doesn't even use every button. Doesn't have to.

[Cao Cao]

Metroid Prime's release date in Japan is February 19th, according to this badly (probably machine) translated GameKyo article:
http://gamekyo.com/newsen29643_metroid-prime-japanese-date.html

It will feature 16:9 widescreen.

[JoeyBoots]

I'm excited for both primes and pikmin games. I actually own all but the first pikmin game, and I fully intend to repurchase them all. Here are some thoughts...

Metroid Prime had connection bonuses with Metroid Fusion, you could use the fusion suit and unlock the original Metroid. Will these return?

Metroid Prime 2, will the multiplayer return? Will it be improved? Will it be online? Will you be able to be someone other than Samus?

Pikmin, will they remove the limit on the amount of days that you must win in, like they did when they moved to Pikmin 2?

[Cao Cao]

Metroid Prime had connection bonuses with Metroid Fusion, you could use the fusion suit and unlock the original Metroid. Will these return?
For your answer, I refer you to a part of Jeremy Parish's Animal Crossing: Wild World 1up review (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3146050&p=39):
http://www.1up.com/media/02/5/3/7/sm/533.gif

Metroid Prime 2, will the multiplayer return? Will it be improved? Will it be online? Will you be able to be someone other than Samus?
Probable. Possible. Improbable. Who knows?

Pikmin, will they remove the limit on the amount of days that you must win in, like they did when they moved to Pikmin 2?
No. Instead, they allow you to go back and redo any day that you may have messed up on. The WiiFolder video goes into great detail about this game.

[wii skiier]

OK, I've spent some time with Mario Power Tennis now. It's going to sell a zillion copies.

Once again, I never played the original so I had no expectations going in. Out of Top Spin 3, Wii Sports Tennis and Sega Superstars Tennis it is by far the best tennis game I have played on the Wii. Control is with the nunchuk stick and you swing with the remote. That's about it. The game is sensitive to forehand and backhand swings and to some extent power.

The pace is just right - I found Sega Superstars to be a little too fast at times and requiring way too much crazy arm swinging. My favorite thing about Mario Tennis so far is how laid-back it is. It's not trying too hard like Mario Strikers and even though it uses cartoony characters it's not immediately ridiculous the way Sega Superstars was. The graphics are sharp and very smooth, and of course it has 16:9 support. Really not that much else to say about this one. It's tennis, it's good for a tennis game.

[KingBroly]

I'm going to guess that beating the game once in Metroid Prime on Wii gets you the Fusion Suit skin. But that's entirely a guess.

[Foo228]

Tiger Woods 2009 is good. Really good. It's not perfect yet, but definitely the best of them all by far. I don't think Motion Plus will really change things that much, and would probably make a golf game nearly impossible to play. As it is, the game only needs to measure speed/power. With Motion Plus, you would need to also then have a straight swing. This would be fine, except you are swinging a semi-physical object in real space at a virtual object in digital space. I don't know, it just seems like a pain to me.

This may have been mentioned many times over, but I just saw the first two titles on Gamestop's site for 3/9 release at $29.99. The cover art is not growing on me still.

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/230396b.jpg
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73028

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/230397b.jpg
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73029

MP Tennis would be a nice buy at $20 :hot:

[crunchewy]

Do we know if Pikmin is 16:9? That alone would make me pick it up instead of trying to find a cheap used NGC copy (if there is such a thing.)

[wii skiier]

Do we know if Pikmin is 16:9? That alone would make me pick it up instead of trying to find a cheap used NGC copy (if there is such a thing.)
The Japanese version is (along with Donkey Kong and Mario Tennis), so I am assuming the US version will be.

[HuppSav]

I would think about buying those games if they are 20. If they are anything above that I don't see many selling.

[wii skiier]

I would think about buying those games if they are 20. If they are anything above that I don't see many selling.
I'm pretty sure MSRP is $29.99 across the board, so a true cheapass should be able to find them for $20 easily.

[Cao Cao]

Well this is a pleasant surprise, MTV's Stephen Totilo has confirmed that the US releases will have the reversible boxart:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/03/05/lunchtime-video-reversible-wii-boxart/

[ChibiJosh]

Hooray!

[Kaijufan]

I picked up Pikmin today and I'm enjoying it so far (I've never played the Gamecube version). The only thing I don't really like is the time limit and how quickly days seem to go by. The new Wii controls seem to work really well.

I've heard some negative impressions of Mario Tennis so I think I'll wait on that one for awhile.

[Zing]

You only need to get 1 ship part per day to get them all. I spent some days not getting any, but setting myself up to get 2 or 3 the following day. I completed it in 27 days with every ship part without reloading. I could have done it in 24, but I wasted several days on the final level dicking around. I could have easily reloaded and done it on the 24th day but I didn't think it mattered.

[niceguyshawne]

I would buy these if I didn't already have them for the GC. The reversable box art is a nice touch but I get the feeling that these GC releases will further delay any Wii Players Choice lineup.

[Corvin]

I picked up Pikmin today and I'm enjoying it so far (I've never played the Gamecube version). The only thing I don't really like is the time limit and how quickly days seem to go by. The new Wii controls seem to work really well.

I've heard some negative impressions of Mario Tennis so I think I'll wait on that one for awhile.

Can you confirm if it's in 16:9?

Yeah people didn't like the time limit the on the GCN either, so they took it out for Pikmin 2, IIRC. It's been quite some time since I played them. I think I preferred the first though because it was more focused with the timer always pushing you along. I don't remember finishing #2.

What would be ideal is to have both, a time specific adventure like the original Pikmin, and then a Free Play/Roam mode where you can do whatever you want.

[Kaijufan]

Yes I can confirm it's 16:9, the home menu isn't stretched on my widescreen tv.

[wii skiier]

I've been killing my arm playing Mario Tennis. Diddy Kong is a fast little bastard.

[lilboo]

I can't imagine Mario Tennis being good at all, but I am def gonna get Pikmin eventually. $30 is kinda dumb.


Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is up next..and in May..right?

[wii skiier]

I can't imagine Mario Tennis being good at all, but I am def gonna get Pikmin eventually. $30 is kinda dumb.


Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is up next..and in May..right?
Why couldn't you "imagine it being good at all"? From everything I have heard it was a very good game on GC and it seems good to me. The first two control schemes work really well (I haven't tried the others yet), it looks great and it's fun. It's tennis - there's not a whole lot of depth, but what would you expect? If you don't like tennis, you probably won't like it. It's better than Wii Sports tennis, Top Spin or Sega Superstars.

I tried Pikmin and despite the charm am having the same problem I did with the GC version (it's one of the two GC games I have played). It's way too stressful.

[lilboo]

Anyone pick up Donkey Kong Jungle Beat yet?

[BlueLobstah]

Picked up Pikmin and Mario Tennis last week at TRU.

Pikmin overall is a better game, although I preferred having the c-stick control with the GameCube as it was much more precise. The ability to start from any day is a very nice feature, but provided this was my 5th or 6th play through I didn't personally need it.

I'm debating opening Mario Tennis, I'm not sure if I want to keep or play...

[HuppSav]

I picked up jungle beat gamecube which came with 2 bongo controllers for 10 bucks. Then I bought 2 to cool ps3 games and it was all for the same price as buying the stupid wii edition of jungle beat.

[Rusty Ghia]

Anyone pick up Donkey Kong Jungle Beat yet?

I rented it recently from Gamefly. I only played the first two or three levels, though. From what I played, I decided to buy the game. Since I didn't have the instruction manual, there were some moves that I was not able to pull off. I never played the original GameCube version, so I can't compare the two.

[Corvin]

I finally started Pikmin last night(courtesy of the TRU deal a couple weeks ago).

I haven't played the original since, probably '01. Graphically, it holds up okay, but gameplay-wise, it's still fun as ever. I enjoyed 1 over 2, so it's nice revisiting it. it would be amazing to see a future sequel in HD(think Flower with insects). I guess we are at least a few years out from seeing that happen though.

I sold my original Pikmin ages ago, so this wasn't really an upgrade for me, more of a re-addition to the collection situation. I have to say the Wii controls are pretty much a lateral move, IMO. If you already own the original, I have to say, there is zero reason to pick this up. The controls are good, just not significantly better than the Wavebird. Just... different.

[Ryukahn]

The New Play Control Metroid games will be released as Metroid Prime Trilogy, and will include all 3 games for only $49.99. I need to figure out what to do with my sealed copy of Metroid Prime 3 I have.....

link

http://wii.ign.com/articles/985/985793p1.html

[foltzie]

The New Play Control Metroid games will be released as Metroid Prime Trilogy, and will include all 3 games for only $49.99. I need to figure out what to do with my sealed copy of Metroid Prime 3 I have.....

link

http://wii.ign.com/articles/985/985793p1.html

Yowsa, time to eBay my Metroid Prime games.

[Strell]

Holy shit.

Awesome times forty billion.

[xycury]

WOOT

finally holding out on playing all of them and I get to enjoy the wonderness of it all on the Wii.

can't wait.

Nintendo did something great there.

[Strell]

Now they REALLY need to use this boxart. (http://www.vgboxart.com/view/19073/metroid.prime.trilogy/?replies=59)

[SL4IN]

I'm all over that.

[lilboo]

So are they going to release a trilogy pack..?
I'm curious as to when MP1 and 2 come out.

[botticus]

Will sell MP3 and then buy.

[Lone_Prodigy]

Yowsa, time to eBay my Metroid Prime games.

Coolest thing Nintendo has done since... forever.

I own all 3 games but I may rebuy just for the new controls and 480p.

And holy cow at the boxart. Too bad it's one disc.

[joeyd07]

'Sigh' to the idea, but I would have to buy if that boxart was used.

[KingBroly]

I'm buying it and keeping Prime 3

[ChibiJosh]

I'll definitely have to pick this up since I haven't played any of the Metroid Primes.

[StarKnightX]

So are they going to release a trilogy pack..?
I'm curious as to when MP1 and 2 come out.

From whats been reported , they are skipping the New Play Control releases of Prime 1 & 2 and just re-releasing all 3 together in August as the trilogy pack.

[Strell]

I'll definitely have to pick this up since I haven't played any of the Metroid Primes.

Get the hell out of my thread.

And since this isn't my thread, go post in the Wii shop thread, and then get the hell out of it.

[KingBroly]

Look at it this way. Instead of releasing 2 games separately for $30 each ($60 total) they're releasing all 3 for $50 in one package.

[Cao Cao]

Any idea of what the recent trade-in values for Metroid Prime 3 are at GameStop, BBV/GameRush, and Sam Goody/FYE?

Yes, I know that I could get more on CAG/eBay, but I'd rather sell it off before the news becomes widespread, much like I did with MGS3 when Subsistence was announced. I'll pick up the trilogy when it comes out; $16.67 per game is too good to pass up, especially if there are launch week deals.

[Corvin]

Awesome news. They should have packaged both Pikmins together as well. Any recent word on Pikmin 2? I saw the GCN version at GS and they wanted around $35 for it. :lol: They're fucking nuts.

[Cao Cao]

Awesome news. They should have packaged both Pikmins together as well. Any recent word on Pikmin 2? I saw the GCN version at GS and they wanted around $35 for it. :lol: They're fucking nuts.

NPC Pikmin 2 was released in Europe on April 24th, so I'd imagine that it will come to the US in either the Summer or Fall, though no announcements have been made. We'll probably find out at e3.

[Ryukahn]

Any idea of what the recent trade-in values for Metroid Prime 3 are at GameStop, BBV/GameRush, and Sam Goody/FYE?

Gamestop was $9.75 :bs:

Calling Gamecrazy now.

[Vinny]

The New Play Control Metroid games will be released as Metroid Prime Trilogy, and will include all 3 games for only $49.99. I need to figure out what to do with my sealed copy of Metroid Prime 3 I have.....

link

http://wii.ign.com/articles/985/985793p1.html

Good deal... but I would rather had them bundle Prime 1 & 2 for like $30 since I already have Prime 3. I'm guessing they're trying to bundle because of the poor sales of Prime 2 & 3.

[Ryukahn]

Meh, was on hold for over 10 minutes with Gamecrazy and they never came back, so just hung up. Somebody else can call and find out. :D

[botticus]

Any idea of what the recent trade-in values for Metroid Prime 3 are at GameStop, BBV/GameRush, and Sam Goody/FYE?

Yes, I know that I could get more on CAG/eBay, but I'd rather sell it off before the news becomes widespread, much like I did with MGS3 when Subsistence was announced. I'll pick up the trilogy when it comes out; $16.67 per game is too good to pass up, especially if there are launch week deals.
$14 at Amazon.

[Ryukahn]

The Amazon trade doesn't seem so bad when you factor in the additional $10 you can get for trading in $35 worth of games. I just need to read how exactly it works, but some of the PSP games I was thinking of getting rid of get good enough value to make it worthwhile.

Gamecrazy offered $8, so amazon is definitely the best I've seen.

[Doomed]

Knowing Nintendo, the MP3 save file on the new disc will not be the same as the old one. So if you're like me and only 50% through it, you'd be stuck.

On the other hand, Nintendo is lazy, so maybe they won't even put forth the effort to change MP3 at all.
Get the hell out of my thread.

And since this isn't my thread, go post in the Wii shop thread, and then get the hell out of it.
He can stay, under one condition. Has he played Endless Ocean? If no, get the hell out of my thread.

[ChibiJosh]

He can stay, under one condition. Has he played Endless Ocean? If no, get the hell out of my thread.

Dammit. Isn't there some other game that will make me cool enough to stay?

[Dr Mario Kart]

I havent played any of the Metroid Primes either. This is just the ticket to get me to jump in.

[BlueLobstah]

Wow. This is great news! I know most of us had the pipe dream of having them bundled, but I never expected for it to actually happen. I never got to play the first two games, so I'm excited.

Time to dump Metroid 3 as well...

[Doomed]

Dammit. Isn't there some other game that will make me cool enough to stay?
It's $30. I enjoyed it far more than MP or MP3. You can stay until either you, Strell, or lilboo plays Endless Ocean. At that point, the two people that haven't must get the hell out of my thread.

[ddp72984]

This is a nice set, but I'm still bummed about having already bought MP3. If Nintendo wants to play it cool, they should have a $10 off coupon through Club Nintendo for anyone that registered MP3 already.

[Ryukahn]

This is a nice set, but I'm still bummed about having already bought MP3. If Nintendo wants to play it cool, they should have a $10 off coupon through Club Nintendo for anyone that registered MP3 already.

You do realize they could have just as easily sold MP1+2 by themselves for $29.99 each, thus costing you $60 to own just those two.

[KingBroly]

I'm not liking the new options menu I'm seeing on Nintendo's site. It looks like it has its' own menu, meaning no individual game menus AND only 1 save per game.

[evergoo]

Goodbye old Metroid Primes, hello Trilogy. :D

With newly added motion controls and achievements for each game, this looks to be the ultimate edition. Having it all on 1 disc is just icing on the cake.

[Doomed]

Thanks for posting the pics here so nobody else has to navigate to Nintendo.com. :)
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/7y8SXfbq4nlR_ZO15BY3yHdKL7erLAnk

Metroid™ Prime 3: Corruption set a new standard for first-person motion controls in video games. Now it's bringing those controls to the rest of the celebrated series, allowing players to experience the entire Metroid Prime story arc with the peerless precision of the Wii Remote. Nintendo announces Metroid Prime Trilogy, a new premium three-game collection for the Wii console that bundles all three landmark Metroid Prime games onto one disc and revamps the first two installments with intuitive Wii Remote controls, wide-screen presentation and other enhancements. Metroid Prime Trilogy will be available exclusively for Wii on Aug. 24 at a suggested retail price of $49.99.

Each game maintains its original storyline and settings, but now Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes let players use their Wii Remote to aim with precision as heroine Samus Aran. Based on the breakthrough control system that debuted in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, these new Wii controls bring an entirely new level of immersion and freedom to these milestone games.

More information on Metroid Prime Trilogy to come.

6 screenshots

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/z92YoGe2l_fUaP1xyth5emyE060ze_Qx/O18d4WGEPamtTGCJHv4jvybimpfSq8nB.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/9erlXgZpHRMRdVfBLi8xmsNFQijZKcka/qLS1-T4_CxL6nLOguczOYCXh92l2ZT1x.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/HBChA7_4aZa9Kku5lfwDSa0e67Tw4IPu/AdNyV3eFhXwM3yw9xNSAxRivA8ig64GC.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/rnNO7iM0QiqzxC84Zbpf7kyZKIG1e2s-/TsPA-NUjh1cK2g67wMscrPKkel0NEnWO.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/zPdkgIh_QujjC2YX7fyZNCOQSBFT4hSu/G1Ul4Gi8XKpCXp7PTIEJbiCmQBvJCLT3.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/zZsWw8Kf3Qf4Ybj0rikZeszXLJyguZsj/i8YsSY1YXsU6CcEWFKrlr_IiI1R4Mwm5.jpg

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/KdEN1EQAwHwzU_i-J6Id-X0KX7UnIjr9/eFKJbHrXIGmMbx7dn9Z8kMKCo_inJK83.jpg
The first screenshot mentions "single player games". I'm guessing the MP2 multiplayer will be online enabled or something. They could also have the cool bonuses in another menu. Don't count on Metroid or the Fusion suit though. :cry: Also, there's plenty of opportunity for an "import save data" mode for each game. Nintendo will never, ever do this for MP 1-2 and will almost definately not do this for MP3.

[GlassAgate]

So, how are the controls in the 3rd game?

[KingBroly]

They're awesome on Advanced

[StarKnightX]

The first screenshot mentions "single player games". I'm guessing the MP2 multiplayer will be online enabled or something. They could also have the cool bonuses in another menu. Don't count on Metroid or the Fusion suit though. :cry: Also, there's plenty of opportunity for an "import save data" mode for each game. Nintendo will never, ever do this for MP 1-2 and will almost definately not do this for MP3.

The ign story about this mentions that there will be unlockable extras for all 3 games. There will be a medal system in all 3 games and you can use the medals for unlocking things. Also they mentioned no online play for MP2.

[Vinny]

They added widescreen enhancements for the first two games... I really hope this means that it'll be true widescreen but I'm almost sure it'll be that half-assed attempt with the 1 inch bars on the sides that Prime 3 suffered from.

Oh well, I'm getting this regardless. It's too good of a deal and it's an excuse for me to replay the the first two Primes.

[Matt Young]

I owned Super Metroid and the original Metroid Prime. I didn't like SM (I was young and didn't understand it) and I really liked Prime 1, though I barely played it. I'll definitely be getting the trilogy. I'm all over it.

[Cao Cao]

Thanks Ryukahn and botticus. Actually, Amazon was the first place that I checked after posting before, and their $14 figure definitely beats out GS, even with the Trade 3 get $10 campaign that GS is running).

I ended up going with Amazon, and shipped my copy of MP3 off to them today. Seems like as good an opportunity as any to test out their trade-in process.

Honestly, even if GS slightly surpassed Amazon's TIV, Amazon would still be the superior choice for me. Judging by Amazon's recent deal-related actions, there's a chance that Amazon will temporarily reduce the game's price before or during the launch week.

Gamestop was $9.75 :bs:

Calling Gamecrazy now.
$14 at Amazon.
The Amazon trade doesn't seem so bad when you factor in the additional $10 you can get for trading in $35 worth of games. I just need to read how exactly it works, but some of the PSP games I was thinking of getting rid of get good enough value to make it worthwhile.

Gamecrazy offered $8, so amazon is definitely the best I've seen.

[lilboo]

I'm really excited for this.
I tried Metroid Prime..but.. ehh.. I didn't like the GCN controls. I loved Prime 3 simply because of the controls. WHEN does that happen with a Wii game?!?! :applause:

[KingBroly]

Resident Evil 4 for some people

[lilboo]

That is also true!

[007]

I'm with boo... I never got into MP1/2 on the GC, but I absolutely loved MP3. Totally about the controls, so this is a no-brainer day-one for me.

[KingBroly]

I'm going to keep my copy of Corruption because I feel that the save files are going to be different. Also MP1+2 now have bloom lighting for some reason.

[Doomed]

I'm going to keep my copy of Corruption because I feel that the save files are going to be different. Also MP1+2 now have bloom lighting for some reason.
This bothers me immensely, yet I know it is true. :cry: What should happen:

Metroid Prime Trilogy is a compilation of the games Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. If you have save files for these games, you may import them into Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Do you want to import a save file for Metroid Prime?
>yes
Please insert the Nintendo GameCube memory card with the save file you wish to import into slot A.

Do you want to import a save file for Metroid Prime 2: Echoes?
>no
Do you want to import a save file for Metroid Prime 3: Corruption?
>yes

The save files you requested to be imported are now imported into Metroid Prime Trilogy. Please be aware that any progress you make in Metroid Prime Trilogy will not be saved as a save file for Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, or Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.
It will never happen.

[lilboo]

What would be the point of uploading the saved data though? That would mean to play the game from where you previously beat it?

[blueweltall]

Would the old Gamecube controls still be an option or is it only the new wii control for Prime 1 & 2?

[lilboo]

No. All these "NEW PLAY CONTROL!!" games are just Wii controls.
Though, I don't know if this is considered "NEW PLAY CONTROLL!!!!1" since it's a Trilogy.

[Kaijufan]

I was planning on buying both MP1 and 2 so getting both for them for only $50 is a great deal. I guess I'll trade in/sell my copy of MP3 soon. I don't usually get rid of games but I might as well in this case.

[Doomed]

What would be the point of uploading the saved data though? That would mean to play the game from where you previously beat it?
Yeah. My MP save is at 20%, and my MP3 save is at 50%. I have a habit of investing a bunch of time into a Metroid game, then dropping it before I beat it. :lol:

[KingBroly]

I think the lowered difficulty is a blessing for Prime 2. That game is insanely hard. Prime 1...I'm fine with that, but I think Veteran had a better difficulty curve. I'm pretty sure that beating the game (just like the GC versions) will unlock a new, harder difficulty.

[neschamp]

KingBroly - I believe you were the one worried about the lack of the Fusion suit. An article (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/03/brief-impressio/#previouspost) from Wired (circa March) with impressions of the Japanese "New Play Control" Version of Metroid Prime (which is almost identical to the version coming to us in the MPTrilogy) said that it is attainable.

"From what I’ve played so far, the gameplay hasn’t been changed. There was one new addition that I’ve seen — like in the Wii sequel, you can earn badges for completing certain tasks, like defeating the Parasite Queen or escaping the first level. These can be redeemed for bonus content in the game’s main menu — art galleries, music, etc.

Apparently you can also redeem these to use the 'Fusion Suit,' a new costume for Samus that originally had to be unlocked by connecting the original Prime to the Game Boy game Metroid Fusion."

Hopefully, the solid port of NES Metroid is still in there somewhere too.

[neschamp]

One sucky thing I read in the IGN preview (http://wii.ign.com/articles/985/985793p2.html) comments on the reduction in quality of the FMV in MP2.

"Metroid Prime 2: Echoes is equally fantastic with Wii remote controls and the updated widescreen, 480p visuals, but the GameCube game used a bit more FMV – on the Wii, the compression is a little, shall we say, bleah during these cutscenes."

Guh. Is it really that hard to avoid screwing up something like that? (I recently played through Kirby Super Star Ultra on the DS and those ugly compressed videos bugged the shit out of me.)

Also, does anyone know if there are three save files available for each game? I think that the integrated interface is cool idea, but it would be a silly oversight to restrict the save slots like that. In the menu screenshot posted earlier in the thread, I noticed that there are three dots to the left of each game title. Maybe that indicates the traditional three save slots?

[pete5883]

Guh. Is it really that hard to avoid screwing up something like that? (I recently played through Kirby Super Star Ultra on the DS and those ugly compressed videos bugged the shit out of me.)
I doubt it's a screwup, more likely an unavoidable consequence of squeezing 3 games onto 1 DVD. It is 1 disc, right?

[Doomed]

They might be a little off, but here are the file sizes of each main MP game released so far.

Metroid Prime (GC)-----1.36 GB
Metroid Prime (Wii)----1.55 GB
Metroid Prime 2 (GC)---1.20 GB
Metroid Prime 3--------4.12 GB

From Metroid Prime GC to MP Wii, the file size went up by .2 GB. Assuming the same happens with MP2, MP2 (Wii) will be approximately 1.4 GB. That would make the total size of a compilation 7.07 GB, enough to fit on a DL DVD. Are they trying to fit this on a single layer DVD? Do the bonuses for MP and MP2 total 1 GB? That's a lot of bonuses, or maybe Nintendo is using magic to make the releases, making simple math irrelevant.

[KingBroly]

KingBroly - I believe you were the one worried about the lack of the Fusion suit. An article (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/03/brief-impressio/#previouspost) from Wired (circa March) with impressions of the Japanese "New Play Control" Version of Metroid Prime (which is almost identical to the version coming to us in the MPTrilogy) said that it is attainable.

"From what I’ve played so far, the gameplay hasn’t been changed. There was one new addition that I’ve seen — like in the Wii sequel, you can earn badges for completing certain tasks, like defeating the Parasite Queen or escaping the first level. These can be redeemed for bonus content in the game’s main menu — art galleries, music, etc.

Apparently you can also redeem these to use the 'Fusion Suit,' a new costume for Samus that originally had to be unlocked by connecting the original Prime to the Game Boy game Metroid Fusion."

Hopefully, the solid port of NES Metroid is still in there somewhere too.

My worries about the Fusion suit were calmed quite a while ago. If you think Metroid for the NES is still on there...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep this in mind gents: The Menu is now 1 interface instead of 3, meaning 1 page for everything including achievements/unlocks/art/music/etc. so thay'll probably take off a few hundred mb the size. The game's going to be on a dual-layer disc, the Wii's second. It seems like Corruption was at the disc size limit for single layer, anyways.

[StarKnightX]

I think the lowered difficulty is a blessing for Prime 2. That game is insanely hard. Prime 1...I'm fine with that, but I think Veteran had a better difficulty curve. I'm pretty sure that beating the game (just like the GC versions) will unlock a new, harder difficulty.

Just as a side note , when I played through MP1 way back when , I beat the game in both regular and hard mode. Oddly enough while the game itself was harder in hard mode (as to be expected) the bosses actually seemed easier. I don't know if it was simply a matter of being familiar with how to fight them or not , but I remember , for example , the advanced phazon mutant pirate you fight near the end of the game (third to last boss I believe) was pretty tough in regular mode , but when I refought him in hard mode he didn't give me that much trouble at all.

Can't comment on MP2 or 3 though.

[ChibiJosh]

Has anything been said about when Pikmin 2 is being released?

[Doomed]

They're hoping you will forget.

[SuperPhillip]

When do you have to shake the controller wildly?

Pointer controls =/= waggle

[KingBroly]

Maybe he's referring to when you have to change beams/visors? Doing that is a lot better than moving your thumb off the analog stick to the d-pad then back for a visor change.

[bmulligan]

Wow, I'll have to dust off the Wii for this and give MP with waggle another shot. I'm guessing that online deathmatch is asking too much, though, right ?

[KingBroly]

You'd be right, but MP2's multiplayer was pretty terrible.

[Snake2715]

Now I will DEF pick up Metroid Prime 1 and 2.
I said it before that they should do this! ::LAWSUIT::

They should also remake Luigi's Mansion. Luigi's Mansion would play really well with remote & nunchuck controls.

See I think they are going to do this and drop it when Ghostbusters releases, or make a sequal with the original included and drop it around the time of the Ghostbusters game, or within a few months.

[GlassAgate]

Would the old Gamecube controls still be an option or is it only the new wii control for Prime 1 & 2?

I'd like to see them, as an option. If not, oh well.

[KingBroly]

The ugh....boxart:

http://gamefly.gameflycdn.com/images/games/e/138925e.jpg

[The_Spaceman]

It could be better., but then again this is a quick cash in for Nintendo. Were we really expecting something fantastic?

[KingBroly]

I'm betting it's a shiny box. It definitely looks like it will be. If it had that, and didn't have that stupid "Collector's Edition" mark, it'd be fine.

[neschamp]

Nintendo needs to get whoever did the boxart for MP2: Echoes on this. That art style utterly destroys this lazy ass effort. What is with Nintendo's tendency to put ugly banners on some of their games? The tacky "collectors edition" label is in the same vein as the "best seller" gold medal looking things on certain Gamecube games.

[xycury]

box art... does it really matter?

Anyways, first or second price drop, and I'll grab it.

[KingBroly]

Nintendo game. It's not dropping.

[Zing]

Word. This game will still be MSRP during xmas season 2015.

[Zing]

Also, the box are is terrible. It's a good thing most Nintendo box art is boring and sits crammed on a shelf where you can't see it anyway.

[Lone_Prodigy]

I'm assuming you guys notice that the circle around the title is supposed to be the barrel of Samus's gun? ;)

I bought MP3 new for $10 (from EB, though it was like a one-day sale), so they do go on sale.

[Javery]

I'm torn about this... I played and beat all3 already (and still own them) but MP1 is one of my favorite games ever and I'd like to play it in WS and with the new controls...

[foltzie]

I'm assuming you guys notice that the circle around the title is supposed to be the barrel of Samus's gun? ;)

I bought MP3 new for $10 (from EB, though it was like a one-day sale), so they do go on sale.

A store may have a sale, but the MSRP will stay ~$50 for a long time since it is a Nintendo title.

[KingBroly]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=87043

It's a slipcover with a tin. And an artbook. It looks kind of like the Gears 2 Limited Edition.

[The_Spaceman]

Sold! Day one purchase for me!

[Strell]

Oh.

Fuck.

Yes.

[The_Spaceman]

Just to clarify that's not a tin it's a Steel Book.

[BlueLobstah]

Just to clarify that's not a tin it's a Steel Book.


That's no moon...

Kudos Nintendo. The Trilogy alone is amazing, but who would've guessed they would deliver like this?

[iNCREDiPiNOY]

Now they REALLY need to use this boxart. (http://www.vgboxart.com/view/19073/metroid.prime.trilogy/?replies=59)

Well, I guess the boxart are finalized. Of course it is a STEELBOOK!!! :drool:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/mpt_front.jpg
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/mpt_back.jpg

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[007]

I'm going to have sex with that.

*drool*

[Corvin]

I'm going to have sex with that.

*drool*

Just be sure to put that in your item description when you resell it.

[Strell]

Just be sure to put that in your item description when you resell it.

At least he's using protection, what with the slipcase and all. A good example to follow, kids.

[FallMoon]

If you get to witness each 100% ending for every Metroid Prime game, you'll notice that Samus gets too much plastic surgery.

[Strell]

Gotta use that bounty money for something.

[willardhaven]

Looks like a great set for 49.99, I wish other companies would do this.

[Lone_Prodigy]

At least he's using protection, what with the slipcase and all. A good example to follow, kids.

:applause:

Even though I'll likely pay $10 more (stupid exchange rate) I'm still getting this.

[IvanHood]

Wow, this is awesome. The only one I have is the first one for GCN, and I never got around to beating it for some reason. $42.29 from Amazon with the ECA discount is a steal.

[foltzie]

I'm going to have sex with that.

*drool*

Even with the aforementioned protection, watch out for chafing against the metal.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20021113h.gif

[lilboo]

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74982

Aaaand GS gets a T-Shirt. :-k.

[icedrake523]

Wow, that shirt sucks. It should at least be the cover.

I own the first for GC. I never really got into it for some reason. I think it was controls, didn't really care for FPS with the GC controller.

I'm definitely getting this since I missed out on the first two and paying roughly $25 for each is a good deal. I hope I get into it this time around because I love 2D Metroid.

[FallMoon]

The Metroid Prime games are MUCH more entertaining to play when you have someone watching. Otherwise, they may come as bit of a bore if you're used to company.

[BlueLobstah]

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74982

Aaaand GS gets a T-Shirt. :-k.


Not worth it for me to switch my Amazon.com pre-order. I'd rather have the Goldbox + ECA discount.

[Ryukahn]

That t-shirt looks like crap. I remember getting a shirt and sunglasses from the Nintendo rep before the original Metroid Prime launched. No idea what happened to the shirt but I still use the sunglasses all the time. 8-)

Speaking of shirts, I still have my FF7 shirt I got for pre-ordering the game.

[KingBroly]

I wonder if they'll have a Metroid Prime Trilogy standee in stores? It might not be a good shirt, but it's still something extra from Nintendo (when do they ever add something extra to their games for those who buy it? This is certainly out of left field for them)

[lilboo]

Not worth it for me to switch my Amazon.com pre-order. I'd rather have the Goldbox + ECA discount.

:(
I didn't get that in my Gold Box ... yet

[Kaijufan]

I wonder if they'll have a Metroid Prime Trilogy standee in stores? It might not be a good shirt, but it's still something extra from Nintendo (when do they ever add something extra to their games for those who buy it? This is certainly out of left field for them)
It sometimes happens with major games. Wind Waker had the bonus disk with Ocarina of Time, Super Mario Galaxy had a coin, and I think the newest Pokemon game had a figurine.

[KingBroly]

Yeah, but they are very few and very far between. And when they do happen, they are usually pretty good.

[Lone_Prodigy]

I hope there's a pre-order bonus. The last Nintendo game I bought Day 1 at full MSRP was Brawl.

[Corvin]

It sometimes happens with major games. Wind Waker had the bonus disk with Ocarina of Time, Super Mario Galaxy had a coin, and I think the newest Pokemon game had a figurine.

Didn't Phantom Hourglass have a quill stylus or something?

[KingBroly]

It was like a plastic stylus.

[foltzie]

It was like a plastic stylus.

So the answer would be "Yes" then ;-)

[KingBroly]

yeah, but it's not something you want to use. I mean...look at it.

Hopefully Nintendo mentions a release date for NPC Pikmin 2 soon for the US.

[Corvin]

yeah, but it's not something you want to use. I mean...look at it.

Hopefully Nintendo mentions a release date for NPC Pikmin 2 soon for the US.

Yes please.

[MorPhiend]

I ordered this and NSMBWii from Amazon yesterday with ECA when I ordered Sports Resort because it was in my Gold Box Picks. I wonder if I should cancel the others and try to get Quick Pick discounts on them too. I would just hate for the prices to go up $3 though.

[Corvin]

Went to Gamestop and asked about shirt sizes and the clerk had no idea. To be honest, I don't even think he knew about the shirt promo because he thought I was pre-ordering Other M.

[The_Spaceman]

The shirt doesn't interest me much since I have more then enough shirts with gaming logos on them.

[FallMoon]

That shirt is really ugly. It should be black. White is not a metroid-y color!

[Doomed]

No, it's good white. That way you can wear it outside in the summer and stay cool. I'm wearing my XL* Zelda: Four Swords Adventures shirt (black) now and that's because I don't plan on going outside.*

*I got this monster of a shirt in third grade. It went over my shoulders then, and it's still huge now. Not really a good shirt to wear outside.

[Cao Cao]

GameStop posted another pre-order bonus, for online customers only, a poster:
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74982

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/230637_bonus2LG.jpg

[lilboo]

Can't wait for this to eventually appear in my goldbox. I need this for $40 and not $50 :drool:

[Doomed]

What's the trick for getting stuff to show up in your gold box?

[foltzie]

What's the trick for getting stuff to show up in your gold box?

Ritual sacrifice of a NES Kid Icarus cart.

[dualedge2]

Didn't see this mentioned, but it seems GameStop REALLY wants the business for the Metroid Prime Trilogy. ANOTHER pre-order item:

Reserve Metroid Prime Trilogy and receive a Metroid art booklet. The art booklet contains 5 double sided panels printed with metallic ink on high quality premium gloss paper. The booklet contains development, sketch, and concept art accompanied by the history of Metroid and Samus. Unfolded the total booklet length is just under 36 inches. Available for online and in-store customers, while supplies last.http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Metroid_bonusLG.jpg

[blueweltall]

I think that every copy will have an artbook.

"Online / Store Customers: Art booklet will come packaged with the game."

So it seem that every copy will include one and it doesn't matter where you purchase your copy from.

[icedrake523]

The only preorder bonuses I like are discounted prices.

[drktrpr1]

Where is the aforementioned artbook on Gamestop's website? Link please? I'm so close to preordering it from them...

I just see the t-shirt and the poster.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74982&affID=77777&sourceID=FKSJxY2VJAk-4QOfnIwNLqCafXGzW2qZdA

[Doomed]

I just remembered that this disc will not support save files from Metroid Prime 3. We all expected this, but really, Nintendo? Really?

[Cao Cao]

Where is the aforementioned artbook on Gamestop's website? Link please? I'm so close to preordering it from them...

I just see the t-shirt and the poster.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74982&affID=77777&sourceID=FKSJxY2VJAk-4QOfnIwNLqCafXGzW2qZdA

The artwork booklet is included in every copy of the game.

[Halo05]

This needs a bump due to its impending release.

I need to visit my local Gamestop and see if they have my preorder stuff in yet.

I hope this sells well. Despite my reservations about Metroid having gone all FPSish, Retro busts their asses on these games. They can't be faulted for lacking polish.

[Lone_Prodigy]

I thought it's out today? I got a call from EB about it. Will pick it up tomorrow. :)

[Halo05]

I think it'll be available on Tuesday.

[KingBroly]

I'll probably go this afternoon to see if they got it in (crosses fingers). If not, maybe I can get the pre-order items. I also have to trade in this horrible PSP game.

[Gentlegamer]

Let us know how well the Wii controls work with the original Metroid Prime games in the Trilogy. 1UP says they make the games even better. I'm playing Metroid Prime now on GC.

[BlueLobstah]

Just received notification that mine has been shipped out from Amazon, and should be arriving around Wednesday.

[Jbently]

Saw it today at EB, the Steelbook case looks really nice, though the $10 Canada tax on games (retails for $60 here) makes it worth waiting for a sale instead.

[maximumzero]

So wait, the poster was originally offered as an online-only item and now I'm reading reports that in-store customers are getting the poster while the online customers aren't getting it.

What a clusterfuck.

[lilboo]

Got my shipping e-mail, aaaand, I will have it tomorrow! :bouncy:

I really hope I enjoy Metroid Prime 1 and 2.. :lol:

[Ryukahn]

The only reason I'm not picking this game up at launch is in hopes that Nintendo continues with their recent Amazon $10 coupon for Wii games.

[Corvin]

The only reason I'm not picking this game up at launch is in hopes that Nintendo continues with their recent Amazon $10 coupon for Wii games.

Same here. I have that $25 GC from TRU for buying Wii Sports Resort, but I'll wait it out for Amazon and probably use the GC on Scribblenauts.

[Shangralia2005]

Dont' see it mentioned here... $10 GC to BB for Reward Zone members. Requires coupon print out from https://myrewardzone.bestbuy.com/ -coupon dates valid from 8\25 to 9\6- but looks as if site is down for maintenance today.

[snowmint]

Did someone copy the coupon?

[Javery]

I really hope I enjoy Metroid Prime 1 and 2.. :lol:

MP1 is the best of the three.

[Snake2715]

Dont' see it mentioned here... $10 GC to BB for Reward Zone members. Requires coupon print out from https://myrewardzone.bestbuy.com/ -coupon dates valid from 8\25 to 9\6- but looks as if site is down for maintenance today.

Nice and thanks

My TRU had 5-10 copies there this morning when i bought batman for PS3..

FYI.

[MasterSun1]

I was able to get Best Buy to price match the local Fred Meyer's ad down to $29.99 AND give me the $10 gift card. Along with a $10 reward zone certificate, I only had to pay $19.99 out of my pocket, but I had a gift card to spend anyways.

$10 in the end for this set is epic!

[burritoman]

This needs a bump due to its impending release.

I need to visit my local Gamestop and see if they have my preorder stuff in yet.

I hope this sells well. Despite my reservations about Metroid having gone all FPSish, Retro busts their asses on these games. They can't be faulted for lacking polish.

Gamestop here has the shirt (had it 2 weeks ago actually), but no poster.

They also didn't have the fucking game when I went there today!!!

They said maybe tomorrow, call first.

Anyways, if I get an extra shirt and you don't get one I'll give you one.

[willardhaven]

Did the Amazon poster come in some sort of case? Was it folded up and such?

[KingBroly]

Hey, I'd be willing to trade my extra poster for said T-Shirt.

Thread Title should be "Metroid Prime Trilogy - The Most Awesome-ist Thing EVER!"

I've put about 2 and a half hours into Prime, and I just got the Space Jump Boots (There's got to be a way to get those early in this version). The controls are really awesome, despite what GameInformer's second opinion says.

[The_Spaceman]

Was going to pick this up yesterday, but forgot my Best Buy Gamers Club coupon. After this I'll have $40 in RZ Certs and gift cards.

[WonkyToad]

Gamestop was a complete fail on the preorder bonus!
THEY HAD NOTHING! No poster. No shirt. NOTHING. He even acted like he did not know what I was talking about. Then he was like "oh yea, let me check to see if we got anything in". They told me they got nothing in their shipment for the preorder bonus. Told me to check back later this week to see if they get anything in shipment later. At least I preordered when I could get 25% off a used game . Got that out of it anyway.

[BlueLobstah]

Just got this in from Amazon this afternoon, Nintendo/Retro did an amazing job.


3/4 lbs. in weight.
Steel book feels very solid and looks very sweet when the cover is removed.
Art book is small, but has a high production quality. Glossy print and everything.
Poster is folded, at least from Amazon. No real way around this unless they shipped it via cardboard tube. Front side is the same as the front cover of the steel book. Backside has Samus from the three prime games plus a collage of images.
Most likely the second largest dual layered disc after Brawl (7.6GB).


I haven't had a chance to play the game yet, but from the production quality of the case and everything, this seriously has to be the best deal I've seen this year, even at full price.

[The_Spaceman]

I started with Metriod Prime 1 and I'm probably going to just jump to Metriod Prime 3 Corruption to get friend Vouchers.

I love the case it's nice and heavy.

[lilboo]

You can only do the friends vouchers thing in MP3 still?

[KingBroly]

I think that is the case, yes. I certainly haven't earned any in Prime yet, that's for sure.

[lilboo]

It's been a while since I played MP3, but, I played for a little bit last night and I got a red one for beating the Parasite Queen. The red ones are different, right? :-s

[willardhaven]

Will this still be around during Christmas time? I am cutting back in a a big way on game purchases.

[Jmclark]

I'm hoping to pick this game up, but not for a while, due to my giant backlog.
No matter how great 3 games for (usually) under $50, I can't pull myself to go out and buy it.

[KingBroly]

It's been a while since I played MP3, but, I played for a little bit last night and I got a red one for beating the Parasite Queen. The red ones are different, right? :-s

Yes, those are different. Although I think they're Orange because you get Red ones from Prime 3.

Just got the Ice Beam (Have to pick it up again because I didn't save because I wasted 20 minutes not knowing what to do; still though, it's right there). Getting the Gravity Suit next.

Also, I'd say right now this game is the front runner for Value of the Year (or whatever it's called).

EDIT: Something cool. The intro to game transition of Samus firing her gun changes based on what suit you have. So if you have the Gravity Suit in Prime, Samus will be in her Gravity Suit before the load.

[Lone_Prodigy]

I approve of the thread title.

Too bad Canada got no pre-order bonuses.

[rothgar24]

I fucking love MP1. I'm going to wait for a decent amazon deal before buying the trilogy.

[Halo05]

My GS had the poster but no t-shirt. I'm not too heartbroken. After some clever trade-ins, I probably only paid about $30 for the game.

I'm like 15 minutes into MP1 at the moment. I got distracted by the gamefly-ed Batman arriving yesterday. I'll play more either tonight or later this weekend. If anyone's up for trading codes for those silly bonus token things, I'm down.

[willardhaven]

is the poster folded or in a tube or what?

[Halo05]

The GS poster (picked up in store) was just rolled up with a rubberband around it. Dunno about how they get shipped out.

[OldSchool77]

I pre-ordered my copy from Amazon and the Poster came folded. I haven't had a chance to try it out since I'm trying to finish the Monkey Island special edition from Steam. If anyone has played the game is it true that they removed the original metroid as an unlockable, I hope not since I would love to be able to play it widescreen.

[willardhaven]

I was not sure I wanted a Wii but between this and New Super Mario Bros. Wii I think I'm going to pick one up.

[KingBroly]

I only need 3 more Artifacts then I can go to the final part of the game. I want to get a couple of more items for 75% items, though.

[io]

Heh - I picked this up even though I had no intention of doing so. I just couldn't resist price matching the Fred Meyer ad at Best Buy, getting the $10 gift card, and using a $10 RZ cert. So I paid $20 (after using my cert that was going to expire in a few weeks and I usually never shop at Best Buy) and got a $10 card and the game - sweet!

I already beat the MP3 100% though. But maybe I'll play the others. I never finished the first one and barely started the second.

I'm sure this has been asked 100 times but I'm feeling mighty lazy tonight and have 20 other threads to check up on. Does it use the save from MP3 (should I feel like firing it up again)?

[Mad D]

No io, it it uses a different save file.

[saiyajinsc]

man i bought mine and the steelbook was dinged up in the back, hopefully I can trade it in for another

[Mad D]

:bomb: My shipment from Amazon came yesterday. I opened it up today and I didn't get a manual. In it's place was the crookedly cropped cover of the manual. I like to keep my collectors stuff in mint condition and in tact. I guess I'll email Nintendo customer service and see if I can get a replacement. I checked their site and you can purchase one for $1.25, I hope they don't end up charging me for a factory error.

[chuckywang]

I pre-ordered my copy from Amazon and the Poster came folded. I haven't had a chance to try it out since I'm trying to finish the Monkey Island special edition from Steam. If anyone has played the game is it true that they removed the original metroid as an unlockable, I hope not since I would love to be able to play it widescreen.

It does seem that way since a few select EU gamers get the original Metroid for free:
http://electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/wii/wii-news/2698-get-original-metroid-free-with-metroid-prime-trilogy

Damn you EU, first your free health care, now your free Metroid.

[KingBroly]

Wouldn't help me much as I already got the original Metroid. And, it's old news. Also, it's never "free". Your taxes are just increased. But regardless...

I got past the first set of keys in Echoes. I noticed something in Prime, and I didn't think anything about it until I got to Echoes. Um...are you supposed to have the Spring Ball throughout the entire game? Even when you lose your abilities at the start of Prime and Prime 2? Because I sure as heck don't remember you being able to.

Also, the compression on the cutscenes in Echoes in quite noticeable. Like...REALLY noticeable. That's probably how they got it all into 1 disc, too.

[Doomed]

Um...are you supposed to have the Spring Ball throughout the entire game?

Also, the compression on the cutscenes in Echoes in quite noticeable. Like...REALLY noticeable. That's probably how they got it all into 1 disc, too.
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Spring_Ball
It was added.

I did the math a few pages back that a 1:1 copy of MP1-3 fits on a DL DVD with 1GB to spare. WTF Nintendo?

[KingBroly]

NOA did the same thing with the cutscenes for Brawl in America. In Japan, they're fullscreen. Here...compressed and bordered.

[OldSchool77]

Wouldn't help me much as I already got the original Metroid. And, it's old news. Also, it's never "free". Your taxes are just increased. But regardless...

I got past the first set of keys in Echoes. I noticed something in Prime, and I didn't think anything about it until I got to Echoes. Um...are you supposed to have the Spring Ball throughout the entire game? Even when you lose your abilities at the start of Prime and Prime 2? Because I sure as heck don't remember you being able to.

Also, the compression on the cutscenes in Echoes in quite noticeable. Like...REALLY noticeable. That's probably how they got it all into 1 disc, too.

I have the original metroid for the nes and the GBA classic series version but I was hoping that they might include a widescreen version since the original looks all stretched and blocky on my TV. I guess I will just have to stick with playing it on a small screen using the Gameboy player.

I loved the springball in metroid II if they added that then I guess it makes up for getting rid of some of the old unlockables. I will have to check out the compression issue you mention, shouldn't be a factor considering how small Metroid Prime I and II, they can't be any bigger than 1.5 GB each.

[KingBroly]

Well, from what I could see, Metroid Prime was not compressed AT ALL during cutscenes. There was some cropping, though (but that's been known).

Also, the Mission Complete screen changed from the original and Samus looks really stupid.

[wjhard63]

Depsite my better judgment, I picked up this game. I shouldn't have as:

1. I've got all three original games and beat them all on Hard/HyperMode with 100% completion
2. My wife's got me on a tight game budget (I snuck this one under the radar)
3. I have a huge, huge backlog, especially of current gen games
4. I should be supporting games like Muramasa, Little King's Story, Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga, or Phantom Brave on the Wii instead of first party stuff, as Nintendo does fine with most of its releases.

That said, when I saw the steel case, I knew I was going to lose $50 soon. I've not played it yet, but I am very much a Metroid fanboy so I know despite 2 to 3 playthroughs of each game that I've already completed, I'm good for 2 to 3 more on this compliation for each title.

Unfortunately, in my haste to open up the game, the knife I used put a small scratch on the top of the steelcase, which pissed me off, but lesson learned - relax and be more careful when opening awesome games. I really do like the artbook/timeline summary included. It's nice to see Retro/Nintendo tie together each part of the story from Metroid through Prime 3 (not sure if all the log entries and messages in the Prime games sewed together the tale so smoothly).

I'll be working on Prime 3 friend vouchers tokens soon. When Prime 3 came out, I think somebody made a separate thread for trading vouchers - any interest in a thread like that for Trilogy?

[IRHari]

You know what isn't so 'awesome-ist'? The fact that Retro took out sequence breaking.

As much as I'd like to pretend it isn't, Metroid games are generally linear. Sure you're not forced to do things like go to the next area and so on, but you really can't go anywhere else (other than backtrack for powerups) because you need another item to progress.

That said, still one of my favorite games of all time (MP1).

[KingBroly]

They took out sequence breaks long before this version. However, secret worlds still exist.

[Doomed]

However, secret worlds still exist.
?

[IRHari]

Apparently even in the Players Choice NA version you could at least get the ice beam early...now there's an invisible wall there lol...anyway I've only played Prime 1 so far but thats what I've noticed.

[Snake2715]

I still need to get this one... it will eventually be mine.

If I had the originals all sealed except MP1) would anyone recomend a repurchase for control sake alone?

I have to admit, while I always bought these games I am not (yet) a huge MP fanboy. So I most the time never finished them...

Should I play through my current copies or jump for the new one?

[BlueLobstah]

Between the originals and the trilogy, I would definitely pick the trilogy. (Note that I never was able to complete the first 2 games due to my dislike of the controls) There's obviously some nostalgia that you might miss if you played the originals, so in your case it really boils down to money + controls. Control wise, I would say that the trilogy definitely benefits.

[Steggy]

Depsite my better judgment, I picked up this game. I shouldn't have as:

1. I've got all three original games and beat them all on Hard/HyperMode with 100% completion
2. My wife's got me on a tight game budget (I snuck this one under the radar)
3. I have a huge, huge backlog, especially of current gen games
4. I should be supporting games like Muramasa, Little King's Story, Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga, or Phantom Brave on the Wii instead of first party stuff, as Nintendo does fine with most of its releases.

That said, when I saw the steel case, I knew I was going to lose $50 soon. I've not played it yet, but I am very much a Metroid fanboy so I know despite 2 to 3 playthroughs of each game that I've already completed, I'm good for 2 to 3 more on this compliation for each title.

Unfortunately, in my haste to open up the game, the knife I used put a small scratch on the top of the steelcase, which pissed me off, but lesson learned - relax and be more careful when opening awesome games. I really do like the artbook/timeline summary included. It's nice to see Retro/Nintendo tie together each part of the story from Metroid through Prime 3 (not sure if all the log entries and messages in the Prime games sewed together the tale so smoothly).

I'll be working on Prime 3 friend vouchers tokens soon. When Prime 3 came out, I think somebody made a separate thread for trading vouchers - any interest in a thread like that for Trilogy?



<------- Noob.... What is a Prime 3 Voucher?

[Snake2715]

Between the originals and the trilogy, I would definitely pick the trilogy. (Note that I never was able to complete the first 2 games due to my dislike of the controls) There's obviously some nostalgia that you might miss if you played the originals, so in your case it really boils down to money + controls. Control wise, I would say that the trilogy definitely benefits.

Thanks for the reply.

[wjhard63]

<------- Noob.... What is a Prime 3 Voucher?

They're the green credits you get for completing special events in MP3. To name a few, you can get one for juggling the training drone at the very beginning of the game 20 times, then save a GF trooper at the lab access on the Olympus, get a flawless escape from Ridley on Norion (this one is very tough), etc.

Once you get those credits, you'll need to trade wii system codes with others that have Trilogy and have earned green credits on MP3. Once you have both entered each others Wii system codes and have Wii Connect 24 on, you can turn those green credits into friend vouchers by sending them to each other. These vouchers can then be used to unlock bonus content on MP3 on the Trilogy disc.

There was a decent sized thread that was specific to friend voucher trading when MP3 came out, but I don't know that a lot of people double-dipped with Trilogy if they already had MP3, so this trading thread might be significantly smaller.

[erectiontown]

good gamestop experience yesterday: i went to return my online GS pre-order since i got boned out of the pre-order bonuses (i in turn ordered for $10 cheaper at buynextgen). the store had a shirt in so the guy gave it to me along with a bunch of other pre-order stuff that they had sitting around in the back, including the muramusa wall scroll. if anyone wants the metroid shirt, i'd be willing to trade it for something.

[The_Spaceman]

if anyone is interested in trading friend vouchers in Metriod Prime 3 let me know and if you added my wii number.

[Doomed]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/developers-voice-metroid-prime/54522

I would seriously buy this game at $50 if I could use my save files from MP1 and MP3. MP1 save importing was a little unrealistic, but no reusing of the save files from MP3? Really Nintendo?

[Kaijufan]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/developers-voice-metroid-prime/54522

I would seriously buy this game at $50 if I could use my save files from MP1 and MP3. MP1 save importing was a little unrealistic, but no reusing of the save files from MP3? Really Nintendo?
Actually the could of included importing the Metroid Prime save file if they wanted to, in Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World if you have a Gamecube memory card with a completed ToS game in the Wii when you start a new game you get some bonus items.

My guess is that Nintendo didn't really want to let Retro include importing saves, it seems like with these New Play Control games they want them to stand out from the Gamecube version (for example no bongo controls in Donkey Kong Jungle Beat).

[Doomed]

My guess is that Nintendo didn't really want to let Retro include importing saves, it seems like with these New Play Control games they want them to stand out from the Gamecube version (for example no bongo controls in Donkey Kong Jungle Beat).
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.jpg
Don't remind me. Here's my very first thoughts on the Wiimakes:
Fuck. Why can't Nintendo just reprint the damn games? The ONLY games I can see benefiting from waggle is Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 with Metroid Prime 3 controls.

[Fire_Thief]

I want to pick this awesome game up.

[EnjoysDeals]

Will probably pick this up for my brother for his bday.

[Diosoth]

$50 for all 3 games is a good deal.

However, I like the Gamecube controller option just fine with the first 2 games. I guess it would have killed them to throw in that control option this time around, but Nintendo is content to force us to use the motion sensor, rather than giving people an OPTION.

I didn't have a problem with MP3's controls when I played, but you know what? I'm not a 100% fanboy of the Wii and I DAMN SURE think Nintendo should toss in standard control options with their games. MP3 would have impressed me better if they'd done just that.

And now I'm seeing people badmouthing the Gamecube control option as if Nintendo will hate them if they don't. Guess what? I like the Gamecube controls, I think they're great. I also like classic Resident Evil games and saw nothing wrong with them, unlike the hordes wo turned against them when RE4 came out.

I really have no love for companies that look down upon their customers like this, but it's the game industry, and game companies hate their customers.

[KingBroly]

Don't remind me. Here's my very first thoughts on the Wiimakes:
Fuck. Why can't Nintendo just reprint the damn games? The ONLY games I can see benefiting from waggle is Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 with Metroid Prime 3 controls.

Pikmin 1 worked pretty well with Wii controls. Just...the controls from Prime 3 are so much better than those in Prime 1 & 2.

After a few days, I picked up Corruption again saving all 4 Guards, got 1 Friend Voucher and 3 Blue Credits for my work up to now. I'll probably play a bit more later because I think I've played too much Batman too fast.

[SuperPhillip]

$50 for all 3 games is a good deal.

However, I like the Gamecube controller option just fine with the first 2 games. I guess it would have killed them to throw in that control option this time around, but Nintendo is content to force us to use the motion sensor, rather than giving people an OPTION.

I didn't have a problem with MP3's controls when I played, but you know what? I'm not a 100% fanboy of the Wii and I DAMN SURE think Nintendo should toss in standard control options with their games. MP3 would have impressed me better if they'd done just that.

And now I'm seeing people badmouthing the Gamecube control option as if Nintendo will hate them if they don't. Guess what? I like the Gamecube controls, I think they're great. I also like classic Resident Evil games and saw nothing wrong with them, unlike the hordes wo turned against them when RE4 came out.

I really have no love for companies that look down upon their customers like this, but it's the game industry, and game companies hate their customers.

Oh, Christ. Cry more.

The point is the new, better controls. If you like the Gamecube ones so much, get the Gamecube games.
Some of you people bitch so much that when there's actually something important to bitch about, no one cares because you bitch so much.

[The_Spaceman]

I just recently acquired the fire beam from Ghort. I also have about 9 friends vouchers.

I love the controls in Prime 1 and 2 in the Trilogy. I feel they make the games more fluid. The original controls were good, but I like the upgrades better. Yes, I know they are missing effects.

[KingBroly]

I just started Bryyo in Corruption. Man. I don't know if it's the fact that I've played both Prime games back to back, the fact that Corruption brings nothing new, or the fact that I'm starting from scratch (scans and all) on the thing, but...I'm not really into it like I was 2 years ago.

I also now recognize what 'bloom lighting' means after all this time. This game's like 99% bloom. But that's not really a bad thing. It's just a jarring comparison from Primes 1 & 2 to 3.

[crunchewy]

I just received a used copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy from gamestop.com and it is in great shape, but I notice on the sleeve that it says it includes an artbook. I don't see an artbook, just the manual, reg card and "if you liked..." sheet. Am I missing the artbook or was there ever really one in the case? It doesn't look like there'd be much room for one.