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xycury
10-22-2009, 11:09 PM
I just received a used copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy from gamestop.com and it is in great shape, but I notice on the sleeve that it says it includes an artbook. I don't see an artbook, just the manual, reg card and "if you liked..." sheet. Am I missing the artbook or was there ever really one in the case? It doesn't look like there'd be much room for one.

I too bought a used copy from gamestop.com.

Mine did come with the fold out Art "Book".

Looks like this http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/138032-Metroid_bonusLG-620x.jpg

Everyone was perfect, got quite a few coins for reggin' it, but my tin has an impression on it. oh well.

for $16 spent after gc, I think it was worth it.

crunchewy
10-25-2009, 01:21 AM
I decided to return my copy - too much money for it to be incomplete. I'll wait for a Wii coupon and then look local.

Doomed
12-20-2009, 10:19 PM
$20 at Best Buy! If only Nintendo weren't complete assholes, and I could resume my Metroid Prime 3 save file...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Metroid+Prime+Trilogy+-+Nintendo+Wii/9424205.p?skuId=9424205&productCategoryId=pcmcat147400050000&id=1218102963486&AID=10597222&PID=1312731&URL=http&ref=39&loc=01#37;3A%252F%252Fwww.bestbuy.com%252Fsite%252 FMetroid%252BPrime%252BTrilogy%252B-%252BNintendo%252BWii%252F9424205.p%253FskuId%253D 9424205%2526productCategoryId%253Dpcmcat1474000500 00%2526id%253D1218102963486%26ref%3D39%26loc%3D01

JJSP
12-20-2009, 10:52 PM
I should really pick this up.

Got_Wii
12-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Picked up a copy this afternoon, to go in my backlog. lol

Snake2715
12-21-2009, 11:09 AM
So have someone over here buy it and ship it to ya! Thats what CAG is about! Or at least used to be about.

Sk
12-22-2009, 02:24 PM
Bad ass game especially for 20 dollars. Has anyone noticed how dark prime 1 is on their TV? Seriously I popped in the old GNC disk and it was way lighter. I have to have my TV brightness to the max to play this game.

KingBroly
12-22-2009, 03:23 PM
This is officially the best picture ever

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_citizen_aran_01.jpg

Spacepest
12-24-2009, 02:08 PM
This is officially the best picture ever

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_citizen_aran_01.jpg

Holy shit! Its like I can almost hear him say, "Aran for president!"

I got this set last month from Amazon at their $30 sale. I'd be more disappointed about the price drop so soon, if I didn't get a complete copy with the bonus poster from Amazon. Even still, this is an amazing set for $20 or $30 dollars.

The_Spaceman
12-25-2009, 09:13 PM
I picked this up for a friend at Target for $30 when it on sale. When he got it today he was very happy :) . I'm still working on replaying Prime 1 and almsot done with Prime 3.

maximumzero
12-27-2009, 10:18 PM
I really need to go back and finish this. I played the game religiously for like a week, got to Ridley, got defeated, and then shelved it and never went back. I haven't even touched Prime 2 or 3.

kiribee
12-27-2009, 10:25 PM
Back up to normal price now :(

pacemakerguy
12-28-2009, 06:21 PM
still 50$

KingBroly
01-09-2010, 02:23 AM
Nintendo just said they're not shipping out anymore copies. Better get it while the getting's good.

The_Spaceman
01-09-2010, 12:01 PM
Well that sucks. I wonder why they are doing that and will keep shipping the NPC titles.

Knoxximus
01-09-2010, 12:25 PM
Well that sucks. I wonder why they are doing that and will keep shipping the NPC titles.

Ummm maybe because it was a Collector's Edition Box Set and maybe Nintendo takes the words "Collector's Edition" a little more seriously than most? Last I checked, you can't still run into Target and buy mini replica Master Swords and Soundtrack CD combos either. ;)

Just sayin'!:mrgreen:

Droenixjpn
01-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Good thing I picked this up for Christmas then. But sadly, my Wii can't play this. Since it says it can't read it.... Even though it was a brand new copy, and I put it in, no scratches on the Disc whatsoever...

;_; I need to get my CD lens cleaner and see if that works.

seanr1221
01-09-2010, 12:49 PM
What? Damn, looks like I'll be forced to buy this sooner than I thought :/

seanr1221
01-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Same with me, ejamer. I'm not ready to play this at all, but I'm not going to pay some huge price down the line.

Kaoz
01-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Amazon had this listed as discontinued since they put it on sale for 29$. It sold out pretty quickly at that price, and has not come back in stock since. I think it's a safe bet that it is actually out of print.

Corvin
01-09-2010, 03:45 PM
Ummm maybe because it was a Collector's Edition Box Set and maybe Nintendo takes the words "Collector's Edition" a little more seriously than most?

:lol: Right, because a company rolling in billions really cares if a game is limited. Gimmie a call I have some beachfront property here in KY going cheap. ;)

The more likely scenario is that it's not exactly doing gangbusters on store shelves. If you boil it down, it's merely a compilation disc with no new content on it.

Strell
01-09-2010, 03:49 PM
If you boil it down, it's merely a compilation disc with no new content on it.

This is like saying oral sex is "just something someone can do with their mouth."

ChibiJosh
01-09-2010, 03:52 PM
I'm thinking that they may just rerelease it in a normal plastic case.

The_Spaceman
01-09-2010, 05:04 PM
That's what I'm thinking they will do, but I'm glad I got the game with the Steelbook case.

soonersfan60
01-09-2010, 05:49 PM
Maybe Nintendo will be smart and make this the first title in their "Budget Wii" series and release it around the time that Metroid Other M comes out, then they can do Super Mario Galaxy 1 as another "Budget Wii" title when SMG 2 comes out. (I'm sure that would piss off lots of shovelware makers who won't have the price advantage anymore to move their turds...)

doctorfaustus
01-09-2010, 05:53 PM
I'm thinking that they may just rerelease it in a normal plastic case.

I'm late to the discussion so excuse my very stupid question. Has the game so far only been released in a steelbook case?

ChibiJosh
01-09-2010, 06:03 PM
Yepp

Chronis
01-09-2010, 06:12 PM
I already said this in another thread but I'm saying Nintendo will release NPC Metroid Prime and NPC Metroid Prime 2 for $30 each, and probably keep MP3 at $50 since they don't believe in price drops.

KingBroly
01-09-2010, 07:23 PM
They don't ship MP3 anymore, either. Just saying.

seanr1221
01-09-2010, 07:26 PM
I already said this in another thread but I'm saying Nintendo will release NPC Metroid Prime and NPC Metroid Prime 2 for $30 each, and probably keep MP3 at $50 since they don't believe in price drops.

This is my guess too.

Halo05
01-09-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm not going to go look up numbers but I don't think any of the Metroid Prime games have sold well regardless of platform or pricing. I cannot see them trying to get $30 each for the games individually. If Nintendo decides to do a Player's Choice line this generation, I think we'll see a $30 rerelease of MP Trilogy in a plastic case with a regular instruction booklet that covers all three games.

Justin42
01-09-2010, 09:48 PM
This is such a weird quote-- "When first introduced, it was announced that there would be limited availability. However, a reason for this was not announced." They make it sound like there's some BIG REASON for the limited availability...

KingBroly
01-09-2010, 10:18 PM
This is such a weird quote-- "When first introduced, it was announced that there would be limited availability. However, a reason for this was not announced." They make it sound like there's some BIG REASON for the limited availability...

They probably didn't order a lot of tins.

david12795
01-09-2010, 10:25 PM
So are they still available at the BB store for $20?

Salamando3000
01-09-2010, 11:38 PM
Picked this up at Best Buy a few weeks back. Was looking at my collection, and was wondering if it was still worth holding on to Prime and Prime 2. Worth keeping them for purely collective purposes?

Kaoz
01-09-2010, 11:51 PM
I am keeping my copies, they have almost no cash value anyway. I like having them on my shelf.

kiribee
01-10-2010, 01:05 AM
So are they still available at the BB store for $20?

Nope there $50 now.

databuild
01-10-2010, 02:28 AM
Nintendo confirms trilogy is out of print

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3177553

soonersfan60
01-10-2010, 11:03 AM
Is Nintendo the only company that actively tells its potential customers to buy a game used?

The_Spaceman
01-10-2010, 12:44 PM
Not sure, though as it has been stated before this is a "Collectors Edition." I hope this is not the last we've seen of these titles.

mykevermin
01-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Disney video release strategy FTW!

johnnypark
01-10-2010, 08:52 PM
At least they put it out. They could have been basing the production life on how well it sold initially... if sales weren't too hot they might have decided to just get out before they made way too many. Especially with Prime 1-3 being available in another capacity and a lot of people who'd want this have probably already played through #3.

Dr Mario Kart
01-10-2010, 09:08 PM
Looks like its in stock at nearly every Gamestop locally. Its a frontloaded series that didnt/doesnt sell well. Collectors edition or not, its probably not a good business decision to print more. I dont see it getting particularly valuable or hard to find. I mean, if you keep anything sealed long enough you've got decent odds to get value out of it (barring a GQD reprint) purely on the basis that most people are right minded enough to unseal a game eventually.

DrMunkee
01-10-2010, 09:09 PM
Disney video release strategy FTW!

Haha. The similarities are undeniable.

SuperPhillip
01-10-2010, 09:46 PM
It's limited edition. It was always limited.
Calm down, kiddies. Steelbook ain't cheap.

crunchewy
01-10-2010, 09:58 PM
My question is will they re-release it in a non-steelbook version now? The steelbook is cool, but I don't need it and I'd rather wait for a lower priced non-steelbook in the future. I have wanted to play this, but haven't had time and so wasn't in a hurry. Now regret not picking it up for $20 when it was that, of course. I'm wondering if I'd be better off paying full price (or nearly) for the steelbook, presuming that the game won't get reprinted and the used/new price will go up, or wait it out and bank on a reprint? Obviously nobody knows, I'm just looking for support. :)

willardhaven
01-10-2010, 10:09 PM
The demand for this is starting to climb for sure. I snagged 2 off of eBay sealed for 42 and 47... I'll keep one to try and recuperate some or all of the cost with the other.

foltzie
01-10-2010, 10:51 PM
My question is will they re-release it in a non-steelbook version now? The steelbook is cool, but I don't need it and I'd rather wait for a lower priced non-steelbook in the future. I have wanted to play this, but haven't had time and so wasn't in a hurry. Now regret not picking it up for $20 when it was that, of course. I'm wondering if I'd be better off paying full price (or nearly) for the steelbook, presuming that the game won't get reprinted and the used/new price will go up, or wait it out and bank on a reprint? Obviously nobody knows, I'm just looking for support. :)

The magic 8ball says no.

Sir_Fragalot
01-11-2010, 04:40 AM
My question is will they re-release it in a non-steelbook version now? The steelbook is cool, but I don't need it and I'd rather wait for a lower priced non-steelbook in the future. I have wanted to play this, but haven't had time and so wasn't in a hurry. Now regret not picking it up for $20 when it was that, of course. I'm wondering if I'd be better off paying full price (or nearly) for the steelbook, presuming that the game won't get reprinted and the used/new price will go up, or wait it out and bank on a reprint? Obviously nobody knows, I'm just looking for support. :)

I don't see a reprint happening, I mean when has Nintendo ever done reprints. If it was it would probably be before the new Metroid but your best bet is to get it now if you really want it.

botticus
01-11-2010, 09:54 AM
I don't see a reprint happening, I mean when has Nintendo ever done reprints. If it was it would probably be before the new Metroid but your best bet is to get it now if you really want it.
Clubhouse Games. Hotel Dusk.

Anyway, this isn't exactly the first Wii game Nintendo has stopped printing, so I don't really get the surprise.

RedvsBlue
01-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Clubhouse Games. Hotel Dusk.

Anyway, this isn't exactly the first Wii game Nintendo has stopped printing, so I don't really get the surprise.

I think the surprise deals more with how quickly the game went out of print. If I remember correctly though the sales numbers were very low for this so its not entirely surprising.

These software sales troubles for the Wii are really starting to become a concern. If its not a workout game or a 4 player game then it just simply won't sell on the Wii. I just don't get it.

mykevermin
01-11-2010, 10:19 AM
That's stretching it, I think.

It's a collection of three games, with the youngest one being 2 years old, give or take.

I think Nintendo would rather see all printed copies sell through at $40-50, which they will now, than see mounds of $5-10 copies sitting on store shelves, like the GC version of MP2 did at TRU nationwide.

The Wii is a fascinating monster in terms of sales, however - you're right about that. It certainly defies a lot of the traditional trends you expect to see with the far-and-away #1 selling console of this generation.

Snake2715
01-11-2010, 10:46 AM
yeah but the Metroid series has not done too well at all. It has never been a strong seller for Nintendo since Prime on the GC.

There is some hype and it gets good reviews, just doesnt have that large of a niche. Its hard, Its a part shooter, Its part exploration, and you need your head on straight to get through it. The action normally never really leaves you on the edge of your seat as its more of an exploration type game. I would actually say its like Endless ocean to some degree, but with bosses.

crunchewy
01-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Not only is it stretching the truth, it isn't even true at all. Amazon's 2009 video game-related sales charts show they sold more Wii games then any other console, and by a wide margin, with nearly twice as many Wii games in the top 100 then the PS3, and quite a bit more then double what the 360 has (there's a shocker, though the 360 does have some higher placers then the PS3). And the Wii has the top spots. The highest selling game for the year was NSMBWii. In fact there is only 1 360 or PS3 game in the top ten, and that being at spot 9 (Call of Duty: MW2 360). The Wii blew away the other consoles not only in terms of console and hardware sales, but in software sales.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2009/videogames/

Also, going back month-to-month, the Wii had the highest selling game in all but 3 months of the year. The 360 had a lowly 2 months at the top spot (COD:MW2 and Halo ODST), and The Sims 3 had it for one month.

So, enough with these bogus reports about poor Wii game sales. Now, if you want to limit it to only M rated titles, yes, the 360 and PS3 blow the doors off the Wii.

EDIT: and January isn't starting out too well for the PS3 and 360. So far for January the Wii is outselling (talking about games), the other consoles by a huge margin. The first PS3 or 360 game is found way down in spot 16, being God of War Collection for PS3. The Wii has 9 games above that and the rest is Wii consoles and accessories with the exception of the 12 month Gold membership which is actually at spot 1 currentlty! No wonder Microsoft likes to make you pay for online play. It's looking to be one of the few things that sells for the 360. In terms of games, they are currently down at spot 18, with one of the few 360 games that sells well, Call of Duty MW2.

deathmothon
01-11-2010, 11:06 AM
I'm worried. I ordered the 20$ version from Bestbuy on 12/21/09 and it went backordered. It still hasn't shipped and I'm wondering if it's going to now...

RedvsBlue
01-11-2010, 11:08 AM
I believe what I said was that unless a game is a party game or a workout game it just won't sell on the Wii, not that all software is not selling on the Wii. The Amazon list almost 100% supports my conclusion.

The reason I say that is troubling is because it only further pushes the Wii into only having games produced for it that are of that type. I want to see more games like Metroid Prime Trilogy, Mad World, etc. but that looks like that's not gonna be happening anymore.

If you have a Wii just for multiplayer then its not a big deal but if you bought a Wii for a more well rounded gaming experience that market is quickly drying up.

crunchewy
01-11-2010, 11:52 AM
There is certainly some truth to that, as the fitness games sell really well, though I'll point out that the Lego games sold well, as did Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10, Madden 10, We Ski (barely), Rock Band and Guitar Hero sold well on the Wii, and interesting to me, much better on the Wii it would seem - the other platforms are nowhere to be found in the top 100, also DDR is in the list, Cabella's games, though maybe those are mini-games - I don't know, and, of course, first party games NSMBWii, Mario Kart Wii, Punchout, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl. So, yes, fitness games are a win, and there are some some mini-game collections in the list, though mini-game collections aren't selling as well as you think as none are that high on the list (other then Wii Sports Resort) and siliconera has a report that retailers are apparently refusing to take any more mini-game collections because the *aren't * selling. Hmm.

EDIT: Siliconera article I mentioned: http://www.siliconera.com/2010/01/10/what-to-expect-from-third-parties-on-wii-in-2010/

maximumzero
01-11-2010, 12:03 PM
Why is everyone so surprised that Metroid Prime Trilogy is out of print? It's labeled a "Collector's Edition" for Christ's sake.

The thread title sounds so pissed and I think it's hilarious.

And besides, games go out of print all the time. Try to find a new copy of Tetris DS or Wario Ware Smooth Moves for a decent price. It's hard, I've tried.

mykevermin
01-11-2010, 12:06 PM
Oh, FFS. Amazon's sales list is not the be-all, end-all of sales trends. You can't really draw any meaningful conclusions from it. So stop making things up.

The Wii is a convoluted mess because you have a deluge of titles that sell fuck-all, causing publishers to shy away from supporting the console in the same way they did in past years (http://www.destructoid.com/capcom-harder-to-make-money-on-wii-than-on-ps3-360-159999.phtml) and causing retailers to say "stop this shit!" to the massive pile of bullshit titles on the Wii (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4237/thirdparty_publishers_react_to_.php).

The Wii is still above and beyond the most profitable system this gen, and the best-selling one to boot. This doesn't have to be a black-and-white dichotomy, because we live in a complex world. You're fucking delusional if you think there aren't problems associated with the Wii.

The Wii is a conundrum: software sells on the Wii, just not very many titles - and it's been quite hard to determine what non-Nintendo franchises do and will continute to consistently sell on the console.

Back to Metroid, I'm not saying any more on this silly matter. Whinin'-ass hypersensitive fuckin' Wii owners.

Zing
01-11-2010, 12:14 PM
The first two games are long out of print as well, but easily had for very cheap. This is a non-issue. There will be a flood of these at Gamestop in the future.

crunchewy
01-11-2010, 12:22 PM
I went back and, even when not considering fitness and minigame collections, the Wii still has the most games in the top 100, including the highest selling game of all. The 360 does, then, have more games near the top, though.

The best selling sports minigame collection, other then Wii Sports Resort was Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics at spot 30. The other two, and traditional, minigame collections were Toy Story Mania and Carnival Games at 66 and 67. I don't see any evidence in the charts that minigames are the winning formula. Would a non-minigame Toy Story licensed game have sold better if it was good? I suspect so.

Certainly budget-priced fitness games are a good bet and full priced on-rails shooters actually are a niche product. Face-palm.

Strell
01-11-2010, 12:55 PM
Whinin'-ass hypersensitive fuckin' Wii owners.

Probably the second time myke's been in the Wii area in a year, and this is the kind of thing yer doing? C'mon.

mykevermin
01-11-2010, 01:05 PM
To be more accurate, I should have made it singular and not plural.

But, really, cruchewy is using dismally incomplete data to make conclusions about the Wii to come to dismally incomplete conclusions. The Wii itself is an unmitigated success, particularly for Nintendo itself. That doesn't mean it is for everybody else as well, however.

Let me put it this way: if companies understood what third-party titles did and did not sell well on the Wii, then software selection would be leaner and meaner (less "Chicken Shoot" and "Iron Chef," as it were), and software availability/awareness would be more robust (poor Zack and Wiki got lost in the shuffle).

But that's the not market reality. So we can only come to the conclusion that companies don't understand what does and does not sell well for the Wii. I think it's underserving the console to say "Nintendo titles" sell, and other than that it's solely music and exercise games. Identifying how to grow beyond that as a publisher is goal #1.

I'm not bashing the Wii, hombre. I'm simply intrigued by it's feast-or-famine sales for a number of titles, and trying to examine the patterns that underlie those. In the context of telling some gloss-it-all-over with shitty "data" dude that the market for the Wii is not as universally rosy as he claims it is. It simply isn't. That's not opinion on this-console-sucks or anything of the sort.

It's why Madworld is on sale for $13 brand spankin' new.

Strell
01-11-2010, 01:14 PM
I'm not bashing the Wii, hombre.

Ok but

It's why Madworld is on sale for $13 brand spankin' new.

This is noise.

We've have this discussion for the last 2.5 years, since middle of 2007, etc etc. I can distill it down into bullet points:

1) Why do devs bitch about not selling, and then go about making mini-game collections, half-genre games (rail shooters, brawlers), instead of scrapping 3-4 of those titles in favor of something more fleshed out?

2) Why is Nintendo held accountable for their own excellent developer houses? Why are third parties so crippled and scared, and then whine about poor sales when they A) go into crowded genres and B) try to ape Nintendo, but fail miserably? "My spoon is too big. Get me a second tiny bowl."

3) How could Nintendo be selective in what gets published without being compared to their Draconian NES days, and subsequently being accused of THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT CUSTOMERS?

4) Why does THQ - a smaller third party - have money to advertise Darksiders, being an unknown IP (looks kinda fun though), but cannot do the same with some of their own titles?

5) Nintendo should help advertise better third party projects.

6) Do retailers have honest clout when it comes to shelf spacing? I'm not sure I buy that wholesale.

7) There's a good chance MadWorld wouldn't have sold well on the PS3/360. Why not port it as a XBLA/PSN title? Should be easy to do. Why bitch about it when you have that option? Bonus points: People like you (myke) coming on chiming on about how the Wii can't keep exclusives. Hey, that'd be the third time you'd be here in a year.

8) Don't bring up hypotheticals like "Dead Space Extraction could sell better on the 360/PS3." More noise 'cuz if EA had done that from the start, it would have been a full genre'd game with third person survival horror motifs and better production values all around, and I guaran-damn-tee you that they'd advertise the HELL out of it.

There's probably a few more points I can't remember.

Kaoz
01-11-2010, 01:22 PM
It's why Madworld is on sale for $13 brand spankin' new.

Well that, and the fact that the game isn't very good. It's fun for a half hour sure, maybe even an hour. But then most people will be bored with it. Combat was too slow/drawn out.

On subject ... I can't believe how many people are surprised by this. It seems like the game wasn't selling very well, and people were passing on it even at 20-30 bucks (a lot of people bought it then, myself included, but obviously anyone mad about this didn't). I mean, if you can't sell the game for 20 bucks, why would you keep trying to? Especially with the steelbook that's increased production cost. Add on the fact that, like others have said it's a collectors edition. Just because some games print way too many copies of the premier edition, doesn't mean that all collector's and limited editions should.

mykevermin
01-11-2010, 01:27 PM
This is noise.

That's nonsense and deflection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0YQ5FljJQU

I saw that plenty on television at release.

Is this aping Nintendo? Is this a crowded genre on the Wii? What about House of the Dead?

The last word is all yours, and you'll surely take it - but I'm a bit bothered that simply remarking that some titles sell like a hot box of syphilis on the Wii has to be responded to by people - like you - who know better than to think that my saying anything negative about the Wii and its market is an indictment on anything Nintendo ever.

You're conjuring up the dudes on the vs forums who enter into debates against phantoms, claiming that someone (like me) hates all Christians ever, and not the specific ones to which I'm referring.

And you know better.

Initially, I thought about mentioning something about publisher accountability in my last post. Now I see that I should have. Perhaps I should have said what I planned to: "Playing my own devil's advocate, when you release a shit game like Soul Balibur Legends or Castlevania Judgment, you can't rightly argue that it's wholly Nintendo that's holding you down." Maybe that would have stopped your rambling, stream-of-conciousness not-what-I-said-at-all response.

Anyway. Last word. She's all yours.

Strell
01-11-2010, 01:42 PM
No, I'm tired of these discussions and the worn-into-below-the-crust-of-the-earth circles we've paced back and forth with them on. Especially when - if you pay attention - you know half of them are conceived out of immaculate bullshit. If you call that rambling when the problem has two dozens angles that all contribute, and I'm just covering all the bases now instead of you coming back and asking me about one of them in an endless stream of "gotchas!", you can piss party yourself all around about it. Don't you dare whine to me about that.

Madworld and HoTD are half genres. Get used to saying it, because they offer the same amount of honest replay value and content as your average "12-in-1 Atari plugs right into your TV!" game.

And for one various reason or another, you can apply this to practically all of the games that sold badly. Dead Space Extraction is a half genre and had no advertising. Zack and Wiki had bad coverart, a stupid title, and niche gameplay. Same with House of the Dead. And so on. Things completely under control by publishers and developers, who choose to not remedy them, and then come back to whine. Feels so self referential and circular.

Now I'm avoiding the obvious elephant in the room here - things like Carnival Games selling a few million - because that's indefensible. But at the same time, why should it be held against Nintendo that some company managed to have a million seller, when Wanted: Weapons of Fate - whose producer went into a shitfit the week before it released - managed to fail, despite having big manly HD graphics and super awesome guns AND attachment to an Angelina Jo Ugly movie? At some point I can't hope that Overkill's grindhouse style overcomes everything else that is so short about it.

I'm not going to pretend that I'd not like to see better sales. And I'd like Nintendo to first hand do that. There's plenty of quality games out there. No, they do not compare to the epic nature of MW2 and God of War and Generic Shooter 4 - but they are good, fun little games. A Boy and His Blob comes to mind. I'd like to have seen No More Heroes light up the charts. There's no reason Nintendo can't help out advertise these.

And yet, at the same time, I see third parties advertise these unknown games for systems with higher development costs and smaller userbases. So what in the hell are they telling me with that?

At the end of the day, I have no fucking clue what gamers want anymore, except one thing. They just want to bitch. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. None of us know what art is, but we know what we like. None of us know what porn is, but we know it when we see it. They don't want to be told they have to support certain things, they want to preserve a status quo, they want this and that, blah blah. And I've grown tired of dealing with it. There's a pervasive attitude at play here, it's not going to change, and it honestly hasn't since the N64 days, for whatever trite reason someone wants to offer up, which runs a wide spectrum indeed.

I mean, how dense do gamers have to be to whine about a collector's edition of a game getting discontinued, when A) it's been on sale at no less than THREE prominent retailers in the last few months for 50% off or more, B) it's on a system you supposedly hate, C) it's a series you supposedly hate, 4) it's not HD, 5) it was clearly labeled limited to begin with, 6) you hate the controls, and 7G) make-your-own-adventure-excuse here?

Check it up, bitches. You're pissed about something you've had control over the whole time. That makes you a shithead, not smart.

xycury
01-11-2010, 01:46 PM
That's nonsense and deflection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0YQ5FljJQU

I saw that plenty on television at release.

I don't think I've ever seen that commerical, this on Cable maybe?



Pinpointing one game isn't the sum-all of the Wiis issues.

It's breaking every rule the consolers had the past 20.


Coming back to the game, it's an M title, with two colors white/black and red. It's not one that could be passed for say flashy cartoony GTA with Grandma. Any parent isn't going to go for this title.

The big questions is how can a M title game survive in a heavily kiddy-ized console era.

I just don't think it can, but there are plenty, and plenty companies can do to not get the M title.

The Wii survived this long, and it has shown to prove it's not a fad. Games are coming out that would justfully support the Wii "hardcore".


Considering the title OP in question, I'm not surprised one bit that M:Trilogy is in a limited print run and won't get a plainbox run.

The games have been out on GC long before, and the third one is just the same. Only big difference is the motion controls.

It's like saying how many people are going to re-buy Monopoly just because it contains differnt tokens?!?!

That's why it's limited. That and the steel book, that's not cheap either.

I would liken this to the Zelda Collection that was handed out as a reward years back...

soonersfan60
01-11-2010, 02:06 PM
Nintendo might be trying to clear these out before Metroid Other M hits the shelves also.

maximumzero
01-11-2010, 03:33 PM
7) There's a good chance MadWorld wouldn't have sold well on the PS3/360. Why not port it as a XBLA/PSN title? Should be easy to do. Why bitch about it when you have that option? Bonus points: People like you (myke) coming on chiming on about how the Wii can't keep exclusives. Hey, that'd be the third time you'd be here in a year.

This is a big sticking point for me.

Just because a game is on the Wii, everyone assumes it's only good enough to be a downloadable title on the 360 or PS3. If Madworld were to appear on the 360 it needs to be a retail disc.

I remember when stuff for a Boy and His Blob was first shown. People were honestly suggesting that it should be ported to the 360 and be made available via XBLA.

But here's the problem with that. In general, XBLA titles don't go above $20. Most people these days wouldn't pay over that for a "Downloadable" game because it feels like it's not as worthy as a retail disc.

But if they do that, what do they price the Wii game then? They can't price it at $20 because they'd be losing money, so they'd price it higher.

But then who would buy the Wii retail disc for $40 when the XBLA downloadable is $20?

In the end you need to do both retail or both downloadable to get parity between consoles.

Strell
01-11-2010, 03:43 PM
Look, I could go into great, excruciating detail as to why you've wholly misinterpreted what I said up there, but I'm not going to spend the time.

You've misinterpreted what I've said. Grossly.

Doomed
01-11-2010, 05:43 PM
Madworld - ~3.5 GB
A Boy and his Blob - ~1.2 GB

My problem isn't that the collector's edition with steelbook is going out of print. My problem is the entire disc is (probably) not going to be made anymore. Why is the number 6 Wii game on Metacritic going out of print 4 months after release?

Nintendo has changed. They make money with their current model, but there was a time when the oh-so-important core market ignored them. In response, they cut prices.


SSBM - Released late 2001 - Budget Jan 2003 ($50 to $30 in one year)
SSBB - Released early 2008 - Budget never (Now early 2010 - almost two years)

Nintendo really tried in the GameCube days. GC had 3 new Zeldas, Mario, 2 Star Fox games, F-Zero, 2 Metroid Primes, and some new IP:


Chibi-Robo!
Animal Crossing
Eternal Darkness
Pikmin

and Luigi's Mansion if that counts for anything.

Nintendo does have some new-ish IP on Wii:


Art Style
Excite____
Wario Land
Endless Ocean
Mario Clock

Not all of those were made in the same 3 year time frame, so the more reasonable of us just wish Nintendo would make a new F-Zero, or release Pikmin*, or something.

*"We're working on Pikmin" - Hope Nintendo announces it one month before worldwide release. Would be awesome. Will never happen.

maximumzero
01-11-2010, 06:52 PM
Madworld - ~3.5 GB
A Boy and his Blob - ~1.2 GB

I'm assuming this is the amount of data the game takes up on the disc?

So what you want to go for a pay-by-the-GB model?

I can imagine alot of publishers filling up their discs with dummy data to get up to the 4.7/9 limit and god help you if you own a PS3.

Doomed
01-11-2010, 09:47 PM
I'm assuming this is the amount of data the game takes up on the disc?

So what you want to go for a pay-by-the-GB model?

I can imagine alot of publishers filling up their discs with dummy data to get up to the 4.7/9 limit and god help you if you own a PS3.
Madworld should not be an XBLA title, and Blob is iffy at best.

Super Mario World is way under 1 MB, but it's way more fun than Wii Play. (100 MB)

SuperPhillip
01-11-2010, 09:54 PM
Why is it most of you only chime into the Wii board when there's negative news?
I don't see some of you in the many game threads.

Huh.

maximumzero
01-11-2010, 11:02 PM
Madworld should not be an XBLA title, and Blob is iffy at best.

Super Mario World is way under 1 MB, but it's way more fun than Wii Play. (100 MB)

So what point are you trying to prove by posting the file size of the discs for each respective game?

willardhaven
01-11-2010, 11:13 PM
Why is it most of you only chime into the Wii board when there's negative news?
I don't see some of you in the many game threads.

Huh.

I just got a Wii for Christmas, thanks to this thread I finally pulled the trigger on MPT for 46.99. I know it's a lot but I just had to have it.

Salamando3000
01-11-2010, 11:15 PM
So what point are you trying to prove by posting the file size of the discs for each respective game?

I think his point was, pure and simple, each game is either too large or borders-on too large to fit on either XBL or PSN.

As far as all this "this game would be huge/still terrible/whatever if it was on XBL or PSN" nonsense goes, I gotta say it's one of the reasons I'm interested to see how the re-release of No More Heroes on 360 and PS3 goes. However successful it is, someone's point gets proven.

Doomed
01-11-2010, 11:24 PM
So what point are you trying to prove by posting the file size of the discs for each respective game?
I think his point was, pure and simple, each game is either too large or borders-on too large to fit on either XBL or PSN.

Yes. MW is too big for a download from MS servers, and current rules would prevent it from being posted without compression.

Strell
01-11-2010, 11:41 PM
As far as all this "this game would be huge/still terrible/whatever if it was on XBL or PSN" nonsense goes, I gotta say it's one of the reasons I'm interested to see how the re-release of No More Heroes on 360 and PS3 goes. However successful it is, someone's point gets proven.

Nothing gets proven by it. It's now had two years of word-of-mouth to go by, something that clearly wasn't the case when the original appeared. Saying they are equivalent releases simply because of the name is going to fool most people, but it's nowhere near equal ground.

shanezey
01-11-2010, 11:53 PM
I always regretted selling Metroid Prime when I was on my 'sell everything I own on eBay' kick. I also sold Metroid Prime 2 before I beat it because of college. When I rented Metroid Prime 3 the disc was scratched and it wouldn't play.

Reading the news of the trilogy going out of print in the collector's edition prompted me to visit my local Game Crazy. I paid full price for one of their many sealed copies. I am satisfied that I got this in my collection before it becomes impossible to find. It will be nice to revisit the older games and to finally get to play 3.

Salamando3000
01-11-2010, 11:58 PM
Nothing gets proven by it. It's now had two years of word-of-mouth to go by, something that clearly wasn't the case when the original appeared. Saying they are equivalent releases simply because of the name is going to fool most people, but it's nowhere near equal ground.

I would beg to differ. While two years of word-of-mouth is a definite boon to the re-release, that word-of-mouth will be caused by a game that is currently readily available in much cheaper supply than the re-release will probably be released for. If word-of-mouth is so strong a factor to hype people up for it, I imagine that same word-of-mouth would help move Wii units. I'm not saying that those Wii units will help NMH (wii)'s launch numbers, just that they'll hinder NMH (re-release)'s.

I'll agree they're far from identical launches, but it's not like someones going to find a better example of lackluster-selling Wii game seeing legs on another console.

Chronis
01-12-2010, 01:07 AM
This thread got interesting! :lol: But ummmm....

7) There's a good chance MadWorld wouldn't have sold well on the PS3/360.

....

8) Don't bring up hypotheticals like "Dead Space Extraction could sell better on the 360/PS3." More noise

*brain asplodes*

Strell
01-12-2010, 01:12 AM
Yes, let's take things out of context. That's a good strategy.

The_Spaceman
01-12-2010, 08:12 AM
Looks like Metroid Prime Trilogy is not the only game going out of print.

"Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Battalion Wars 2 (2007), and Wario Land Shake It(2008) are no longer being manufactured or shipped to retailers." - Nintendo customer service rep

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=110549

crunchewy
01-12-2010, 11:05 AM
I'm glad I picked up a copy of Wario Land then. I think I am going to go get a copy of the trilogy from Gamestop. I've got a game or two to trade in, and there are some used copies according to their web site. Saves me a few dollars, anyway.

Kaoz
01-12-2010, 11:22 AM
Looks like Metroid Prime Trilogy is not the only game going out of print.

"Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Battalion Wars 2 (2007), and Wario Land Shake It(2008) are no longer being manufactured or shipped to retailers." - Nintendo customer service rep

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=110549

Hm, I just got matched for strikers on goozex. And I recently got the other two as well. Nice.

maximumzero
01-12-2010, 12:14 PM
I haven't seen Battalion Wars or Mario Strikers on shelves in such a long time I assumed they had been out of print for some time.

KingBroly
01-12-2010, 12:25 PM
They must still be shipping Fire Emblem then.

I see a Player's Choice Lineup coming on.

Snake2715
01-12-2010, 12:52 PM
I think his point was, pure and simple, each game is either too large or borders-on too large to fit on either XBL or PSN.

As far as all this "this game would be huge/still terrible/whatever if it was on XBL or PSN" nonsense goes, I gotta say it's one of the reasons I'm interested to see how the re-release of No More Heroes on 360 and PS3 goes. However successful it is, someone's point gets proven.

NMH is getting a re release? That will really be interesting. Well after it has come out, etc.

The only thing that can skew it is the price. If its close to the Wii retail... but since its online it will release at what $20 tops.. of course it may sell.

botticus
01-12-2010, 01:14 PM
They must still be shipping Fire Emblem then.

I see a Player's Choice Lineup coming on.
Amazon has listed Fire Emblem as discontinued for a while (which was the first hint that the same was true of MPT).

blueshinra
01-12-2010, 01:34 PM
Looks like Metroid Prime Trilogy is not the only game going out of print.

"Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Battalion Wars 2 (2007), and Wario Land Shake It(2008) are no longer being manufactured or shipped to retailers." - Nintendo customer service rep

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=110549
Goddammit. And here I was not planning to buy any more games until Ace Attorney Investigations comes out.

Are Battalion Wars 2 and Wario Land: Shake It any good? I've had my eye on them for awhile (the latter, especially).

Kaoz
01-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Goddammit. And here I was not planning to buy any more games until Ace Attorney Investigations comes out.

Are Battalion Wars 2 and Wario Land: Shake It any good? I've had my eye on them for awhile (the latter, especially).
I can't say for BW2, I have it but have yet to play past the first level.

Warioland is good tho' - took me like 6-7 hours to beat it. But, I didn't go for all the treasure (yet) so that will extend length. It's a 2d platformer, so you know ahead of time what you are in for in gameplay.

botticus
01-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Goddammit. And here I was not planning to buy any more games until Ace Attorney Investigations comes out.

Are Battalion Wars 2 and Wario Land: Shake It any good? I've had my eye on them for awhile (the latter, especially).
If you enjoyed the first BW, BWii is much improved with the controls and the limited online multiplayer (for the life of me I don't know why they didn't give you more than 3 co-op maps).

Wario Land was fun to play through once, but I didn't feel any desire to go back for the secrets.

theflicker
01-12-2010, 06:00 PM
Pretty off-topic, but I think the re-release of NMH on 360/PS3 will be pretty similar to Conker releasing on Xbox. That didn't really go over well, did it? I honestly don't know since I didn't have the system.

Oh, and I'm in the same spot as the other poster who ordered from Best Buy, but had MP:T backordered. I really hope they come through with something . . . I'm not too worried about being unable to get this from Gamestop though.

JStryke
01-12-2010, 08:15 PM
Pretty off-topic, but I think the re-release of NMH on 360/PS3 will be pretty similar to Conker releasing on Xbox. That didn't really go over well, did it? I honestly don't know since I didn't have the system.

Not sure how well it did, and also not sure on all the differences, but one thing that didn't sit well with me from what I heard was the censoring they did for the xbox version. Ended up not getting it just because the N64 version (IMO) was far superior.

4tygames
01-12-2010, 08:50 PM
Looks like Metroid Prime Trilogy is not the only game going out of print.

"Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Battalion Wars 2 (2007), and Wario Land Shake It(2008) are no longer being manufactured or shipped to retailers." - Nintendo customer service rep

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=110549

Thanks for the info. Only Mario Strikers Charged and Wario Land Shake It get the Nintendo coins. I'm not interested in Strikers, but I am interested in both BWII and Shake It. I guess I'm going to have to buy Shake It now and just buy BWII used later on when prices for it decrease.

lilboo
01-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Why do Nintendo games go out of print? :-s

KingBroly
01-12-2010, 10:07 PM
So they don't have the disservice of being a budget price of course!

The_Spaceman
01-12-2010, 10:21 PM
Well looks like I need to find a good deal on Wario Land now.

Cao Cao
01-13-2010, 12:16 AM
Kombo was able to get the full list of discontinued titles:
http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=15520
* Battalion Wars ii
* Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
* Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
* Endless Ocean
* Excitebots: Trick Racing
* Excite Truck
* Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
* Mario Strikers Charged
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Metroid Prime Trilogy
* New Play Control! Pikmin
* Wario Land: Shake It!
* Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
* Wii Fit
* Wii Music

willardhaven
01-13-2010, 12:20 AM
Hmmm I might have to snag Wario Land.

foltzie
01-13-2010, 01:08 AM
Crap, time to grab Pikmin

rocky435
01-13-2010, 06:09 AM
Ha! Pikmin 1 is oop. Boo Nintendo whatever happened to Pikmin 2 on the wii?? I was looking forward to it.

This may sound stupid but with netflix coming to the wii and these titles going out of print. Maybe E3 2010 nintendo will announce a Wii HD or wii 2.

crunchewy
01-13-2010, 11:07 AM
What? No one is going to pick up a last minute copy of Donkey Kong Barrel Blast? :)

I find the list somewhat surprising. They are really going to discontinue all of those titles? It makes me wonder if they aren't just going to release them all, or perhaps at least the better selling of them, as Greatest Hits with a lower price tag.

Kaoz
01-13-2010, 11:32 AM
Question, is Pikmin the kind of game you should play to play Pikmin 2 ... or are they more standalone? (Trying to decide if I should try and get a new play pikmin)

xycury
01-13-2010, 12:22 PM
is it still too soon to make a Player's Choice game? Even the ones they listed as OOP still don't qualify since they really didn't sell well.

I mean they have never did one for the DS games, and Mario Kart DS is selling like hotcakes. Probably no way in hell will they make a Player's Choice for that title.

foltzie
01-13-2010, 12:22 PM
One thing I find odd is how many people think these discontinued titles are indicative of a possible "Player's Choice" or "Greatest Hits" lineup. Looking over the titles, they all either underperformed compared to expectations or were made obsolete by updates/expansions. In both cases, I can't understand why Nintendo would care enough to reintroduce the games under a different label when they (presumably) have more productive and profitable things to pursue.

The "New Play Control" games are effectively players choice, going OOP means they probably only had one print run to begin with given the sales numbers. Nintendo announcing it is either a mistake or a hint to the more hardcore/cheap crowd to catchem while you can.

Corvin
01-13-2010, 12:30 PM
The "New Play Control" games are effectively players choice, going OOP means they probably only had one print run to begin with given the sales numbers. Nintendo announcing it is either a mistake or a hint to the more hardcore/cheap crowd to catchem while you can.

I'm going to take the glass is half full stance and say they are clearing out Pikmin to make room for Pikmin 2 on store shelves. :D

Kaoz
01-13-2010, 01:23 PM
You can play Pikmin 2 standalone, but I think the first game leads into the second one really well. They are also slightly different because of how time really limits you in the first game while the second game removed that limitation and gives more room to explore at your own pace.

Even though many people prefer the second, I think owning both is worthwhile. We also haven't seen Pikmin 2 New Play Control and have no assurance it's coming... and one is better than none.


Yeah, the time limit is what worries me about the first compared to the second, I'd get npc pikmin 2 if they released it. I just hate the idea of getting to the end of a game, and having to start over because I didn't do good enough earlier, or I run out of time.

soonersfan60
01-13-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm hoping we get a Pikmin Trilogy released like Metroid Trilogy, only we don't have to buy Pikmin 3 first and instead its initial release comes with the Collector's Edition package. :)

Chronis
01-13-2010, 02:32 PM
One thing I find odd is how many people think these discontinued titles are indicative of a possible "Player's Choice" or "Greatest Hits" lineup. Looking over the titles, they all either underperformed compared to expectations or were made obsolete by updates/expansions. In both cases, I can't understand why Nintendo would care enough to reintroduce the games under a different label when they (presumably) have more productive and profitable things to pursue.

This. Either way though, is anybody actually surprised they stopped making some of those? I mean, a good chunk of those are over a year old now and tend to not be seen in stores. Besides, Toys R Us even clearanced out many of those. Pretty sure they wouldn't clearance out Radiant Dawn for $10 if they were getting more. (BTW, you won't be finding it so don't try).

blueshinra
01-13-2010, 03:08 PM
I'm hoping we get a Pikmin Trilogy released like Metroid Trilogy, only we don't have to buy Pikmin 3 first and instead its initial release comes with the Collector's Edition package. :)
I think there's a damned good chance of something like this happening.

spmahn
01-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Why do Nintendo games go out of print? :-s

They probably only have a finite amount of resources at their production facilities with which to produce games. They would either have to increase capacity, which is very costly, or reallocate resources away from games that are either older, or are not selling very well, and towards new titles, or games that do continue to sell well i.e. Smash Brothers, Mario Galaxy, etc. What surprises me however is that the original Wii Fit went out of print. I don't think it was ever sold game only, so I guess if they decided to stop production of the bundle with the balance board, so they could continue to produce the bundle with Wii Fit Plus, that might make sense, but still.

botticus
01-13-2010, 03:29 PM
Why do Nintendo games go out of print? :-s
Which publishers do you think don't discontinue games?

deathmothon
01-13-2010, 03:40 PM
Oh yay... Just got this email from Best Buy:

Dear MICHAEL,

Thank you for your interest in Wii-Metroid Prime Trilogy on BestBuy.com (http://BestBuy.com). Your order is currently on backorder; and unfortunately, we will not be receiving more product. As a result your order will be canceled.
Please note that while your credit card hasn't been charged for the item(s), the authorization for funds may still reserve available account funds. Authorizations for funds generally expire after 7 days, but some credit cards may keep them open for a full billing cycle. Please contact your credit card company with questions you may have on their process.
If you used a Best Buy gift card for this order and no longer have it, please call us toll-free at 1-888-BEST BUY (1-888-237-8289) and we will send you a replacement.
We are sorry for this and apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. We look forward to your next visit to one of our stores or to www.BestBuy.com (http://www.BestBuy.com). Please do not hesitate to contact us with additional questions or concerns.

Thank you for shopping at BestBuy.com,

The Customer Care Team

This sucks :(

ChibiJosh
01-13-2010, 04:18 PM
Yeah, the time limit is what worries me about the first compared to the second, I'd get npc pikmin 2 if they released it. I just hate the idea of getting to the end of a game, and having to start over because I didn't do good enough earlier, or I run out of time.
I'm pretty sure in the NPC Pikmin, you can restart from any day. So you wouldn't have to start completely over.

maximumzero
01-13-2010, 05:49 PM
I'm pretty sure in the NPC Pikmin, you can restart from any day. So you wouldn't have to start completely over.

This is true.

Doomed
01-13-2010, 09:25 PM
* Battalion Wars ii
* Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
* Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
* Endless Ocean
* Excitebots: Trick Racing
* Excite Truck
* Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
* Mario Strikers Charged
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Metroid Prime Trilogy
* New Play Control! Pikmin
* Wario Land: Shake It!
* Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
* Wii Fit
* Wii Music
Nintendo could make a sweet $20 line of games for Wii. Pack them in either half height DVD cases, half height and half thickness DVD cases, or slimline DVD cases. The first two could even not have the "green" BS. Covers would be cheaper. Cases would be cheaper. Shipping would be cheaper. Cases would take less shelf space and play to the slow and steady game sales Nintendo likes to see.

Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Endless Ocean
Wii Chess
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Music
Wii Play
Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resort
Those games combined with updates and everything come to under 4.7 GB - They fit on a normal, cheap Wii disc. Even with a new menu on the disc and system updates / channels they would fit.

What would this do for Nintendo?


Cheap to produce
Very little additional work required - Nintendo loves repackaging
Push the Wii Motion+
Possibly lower profits :-( - Wii Play, WSR, and Fit+ are all packaged with additional hardware in some cases.

If this package was $20, it would work wonders for third parties and Nintendo. Sure, you don't have to get a M+ or Balance Board, but you need it for WSR/Wii Fit+. Make sure the audience knows you need M+ for that game, available seperately for $19.99! These games encourage you to buy more peripherals.

From what I understand M+ isn't selling amazingly. This would help improve install rates very much and encourage developers to give Motion + a shot.

Similar:


ExiteTruck
ExciteBots
Excitebike: World Rally
Excitebike
Excitebike 64

This is Nintendo. If they can't figure out to profit from their old games, they are idiots. Oh wait. What is so terribly bad about a cost-cutting budget line of games, Nintendo?

And for some games, a straight up cheap reprint would be fine. How much money would they really lose on a half height and width white DVD case with no manual?

http://i49.tinypic.com/2960odd

KingBroly
01-13-2010, 09:57 PM
A Player's Choice line for Wii would have to have one thing: Light Blue cases

willardhaven
01-14-2010, 01:10 AM
Wario Ware, Mario Strikers and Metroid should stay in print. These are games that will sell until the Wii dies.

SuperPhillip
01-14-2010, 01:16 AM
Doomed, they're being discontinued in the first place because they take up shelf space. Stores won't carry them. Throwing more games onto the shelves isn't the answer.

willardhaven
01-14-2010, 01:31 AM
I wasn't under the impression that they were wasting space. I thought they were sold out in most stores.

Snake2715
01-14-2010, 10:10 AM
/\ The games are not all sold out in stores its just they are at the bottom shelf behind the galss case, with all the games stacked sideways that you are not going to take the time to read. Nintendo doesnt want theirs down there with the latest horse trainer, or purple pansy party game.

crunchewy
01-14-2010, 11:04 AM
From what I understand M+ isn't selling amazingly. This would help improve install rates very much and encourage developers to give Motion + a shot.

It's not definitive, but amazon's top selling video game items for 2009 has the WM+ add-on in 3rd place for all of 2009, better selling then any game on any system, and only behind the Wii itself and the Remote. At least at amazon, the WM+ seems to have been a big seller. Let alone Wii Sports Resort, which includes one, which is in 7th place, only behind NSMBWii and Wii Fit Plus Bundle (this is overall, for all systems.)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2009/videogames/ref=zg_bs_cal

I would, though, love to know how it sold overall across all sellers.

botticus
01-14-2010, 11:11 AM
There are over 3 million M+ devices in homes in the US just through WSR. I imagine one could another million or two from Tiger Woods/standalone/black remote sales. That's pretty healthy.

Of course, since most developers won't bother with the balance board with 8-10 million sold, one shouldn't expect numbers to mean anything.

Halo05
01-14-2010, 11:32 AM
Wario Ware, Mario Strikers and Metroid should stay in print. These are games that will sell until the Wii dies.

Sadly, I can't agree about Metroid. I don't have sales numbers on hand but the fact that it dropped to $20 for a week at Best Buy while few (if any) first party Nintendo games had a similar drop is a pretty damning statement about its sales.

And yes, I realize how fucked up that is.

Kaoz
01-14-2010, 01:39 PM
I just finished Prime last night, awesome game. (I bought it for GC but couldn't get into it with that control scheme, didn't like it.) Will probably play a different game now, then do Prime 2 right after it. Loved it from start to finish. I know Prime is considered the best of the three, which does everyone else prefer of the other two though, Echoes or Corruption.

I found Omega Pirate ... I think that was his name anyway, to be the hardest boss. Was surprised that I didn't have any trouble at all with Ridley or Metroid Prime.

Chuplayer
01-14-2010, 08:34 PM
Why doesn't Nintendo like re-releasing games at a budget price? It devalues the games, the brands, and Nintendo's image. Just because they could do it doesn't mean it's a good business idea (although purely from a consumer viewpoint, I'd be thrilled if this happened). Also, some of the titles you are listing were already released at a budget price ($30 or less) previously - so re-releasing them probably won't spur too many sales.

Hey guys, it's some of that new fangled business philosophy! You know, the stuff where you no longer have a Player's Choice line of games like you did in the 90s because it's all about corporate image and never dissing your older product by making it cheaper! We all know that putting Super Mario 64 into the Player's Choice line didn't sell any copies whatsoever!

*looks at my own personal copy of SM64 with Player's Choice labeling*

OH WAIT.

Seriously. This new business philosophy of "it's bad for our image to ever lower prices" needs to stop.

Anyway, I picked up my copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy today. I didn't really like the first one when I rented it years ago, but I figured I'd give it a shot since it won't be getting any easier to find, and it won't be getting any cheaper. I got up to the timed evacuation part of the first game, didn't evacuate in time because I wasted so much damn time looking for stuff to scan just so I could operate an elevator, and when I restarted, I found that I restarted from the very beginning of the game. Unskippable opening cutscene and all.

Already I am not having a good time.

Either there are no save areas before the evacuation or I missed them while I was rushing to get the hell out of the place.

I am also not that big of a fan of the aiming and rotation controls. Time Crisis 4's home "light gun FPS" mode is superior to this aiming and moving catastrophe. I don't see why I should have to move my crosshairs to the right side of the screen, overshoot my target every time, and then move them back to the left just so I can shoot them. Yeah, I know about lock-on, but screw that.

On top of all that, the "limited edition metal packaging" tore up the manual, so now I have a piece of garbage instead of a high class package. At least that fold-out history paper smells like baseball cards from the 90s. That's the best part of the game for me so far.

EDIT:

As for the mega-compilation games you are talking about... take your head out of your ass. The Wii _____ disc looks great - but why sell everything combined when you can sell them separately? More importantly, why sell something that will make it so that people don't need to come back for more later. Nintendo would be totally shooting current and future sales of all games (from themselves, and other publishers) in the foot with something like this. Again, great idea for consumers... but totally impractical and never going to happen.

This pissed me off, too. You know what the greatest Nintendo memory I have is? Super Mario All Stars. Hot damn, that was the Mecca of video gaming for me in the early to mid 90s. It totally elevated Nintendo in my eyes, and that cartridge alone kept me coming back for more in the future.

Zing
01-14-2010, 09:35 PM
I don't see why I should have to move my crosshairs to the right side of the screen, overshoot my target every time, and then move them back to the left just so I can shoot them. Yeah, I know about lock-on, but screw that.
Let me get this straight. You "don't see why" you have to do something and then immediately state why you don't have to do it?

Chuplayer
01-14-2010, 10:41 PM
Let me get this straight. You "don't see why" you have to do something and then immediately state why you don't have to do it?
I'm saying that I shouldn't have to overshoot in the first place. A second analog stick controlling rotation and vertical view while your pointer moves the crosshairs would eliminate this problem, and that's exactly what Time Crisis 4 does.

If you're not being a wuss, Time Crisis 4 does one better by being as close to an actual light gun as can be when you disable the crosshairs in that game while still being accurate as you look down the gun's sights. On the Wii, there's nothing like that to my knowledge. All shooters are glorified move the cursor games.

Zing
01-15-2010, 12:42 AM
Wait, are you saying that you have to move the Wiimote pointer to the edge of the screen just to turn left and right?

Heh. Haha. Ahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!

Wait. Seriously? I just read the manual PDF.

AHahahahaha!

And people said the controls were better than the Gamecube?

Strell
01-15-2010, 01:07 AM
Wow. This thread just got a million times more stupid than it already was.

SuperPhillip
01-15-2010, 01:33 AM
You people are genuinely retarded.

Lone_Prodigy
01-15-2010, 01:48 AM
Did you just compare a light gun game to an FPA (first-person adventure)? And did you just suggest having two analog sticks AND a pointer?

FYI, House of the Dead Overkill allows you to remove the crosshairs.

Chuplayer
01-15-2010, 07:31 AM
Wait, are you saying that you have to move the Wiimote pointer to the edge of the screen just to turn left and right?

Heh. Haha. Ahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!

Wait. Seriously? I just read the manual PDF.

AHahahahaha!

And people said the controls were better than the Gamecube?

Not even to the edge of the screen. A certain distance to the left or right, and it turns slowly. All the way to the edge, and you turn quickly.

Chuplayer
01-15-2010, 07:33 AM
Did you just compare a light gun game to an FPA (first-person adventure)? And did you just suggest having two analog sticks AND a pointer?

Oh hell yeah. Light gun FPS mode in Time Crisis 4 is pure underrated bliss. It's awesome. It's not just a light gun game.

FYI, House of the Dead Overkill allows you to remove the crosshairs.

But can you look down the Wiimote as if you were looking down its sights and aim accurately? You can with Time Crisis 4.

Kaoz
01-15-2010, 10:50 AM
Did you just compare a light gun game to an FPA (first-person adventure)? And did you just suggest having two analog sticks AND a pointer?

Yeah man, it would totally not be awkward at all! It's not like we need room on the wiimote for buttons, lets add an analog stick there.

Wii shooters are either something you like or you don't. If you can't turn without overshooting your target then you just aren't good at it. I have no problems with it at all, just because you can't do it does not mean the control input is at fault. That would be like me blaming 90% of fighting games for the fact that I can't do their combos. If only the controls would work, it has nothing at all to do with me not taking the time to get good at doing them.

foltzie
01-15-2010, 11:15 AM
Yeah man, it would totally not be awkward at all! It's not like we need room on the wiimote for buttons, lets add an analog stick there.

Wii shooters are either something you like or you don't. If you can't turn without overshooting your target then you just aren't good at it. I have no problems with it at all, just because you can't do it does not mean the control input is at fault. That would be like me blaming 90% of fighting games for the fact that I can't do their combos. If only the controls would work, it has nothing at all to do with me not taking the time to get good at doing them.

Whoa Whoa Whoa... I always blame the game when I get trounced in SSMB and SSF2.

Snake2715
01-15-2010, 03:52 PM
Chup and Zing what the hell are you two talking about?

Its a very fluid way of controlling the game. its called Strafe and it works wonders.

Strell
01-15-2010, 03:54 PM
You're....actually trying to aim down the controller....physically?

This is worse than when you physically put the Zapper on the screen back in the Duck Hunt days.

xycury
01-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Isn't the light sensor and the infrared senser work on two extremely different ways?

Just thinking that eyeing down the wiimote and still able to shoot is completely impossible and retarded.



Just to note: This thread, and the Wii Netflix went full retard. Everybody knows you never go full retard.

catbigred
01-15-2010, 06:39 PM
Anyone interested 41.99 BuyItNow
http://cgi.ebay.com/Metroid-Prime-Trilogy-Wii-2009_W0QQitemZ200428662210QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo _Games_Games?hash=item2eaa7aadc2

Chuplayer
01-15-2010, 06:50 PM
Isn't the light sensor and the infrared senser work on two extremely different ways?

Just thinking that eyeing down the wiimote and still able to shoot is completely impossible and retarded.

Infrared light is light. The PS3 Guncon 3 technology isn't too much different from the Wii technology.

Anyway, I'm not trying to look down the Wiimote as if it were a gun on any games. I'm just saying that you should be able to do so. Apparently you can in a few games, but my point is that every game should have that functionality. Plus, the dual analog on the Guncon 3 kicks so much ass, the Wii should have it, too.

StarKnightX
01-15-2010, 10:58 PM
Just kinda randomly jumping in here , since we seem to have like 3-5 different conversations going on in this same thread.

With the games that are going out of print , I find it interesting about Warioland. I was just at Best Buy today and they had a ton of copies of the game , and they were marked down from $50 to $20. According to the price cards posted , the price change only went into effect less than a month ago. Not only that , I went to Target as well and they had the copies clearance priced at $25. This seems to support the discontinuation as stores seem to be trying to dump inventory. Oddly enough Target also had Metroid but it was still priced at $50. As far as the rest of the games going OOP , I have most of them , but the ones I don't:
Battalion Wars 2 - Have been trying to get it recently.
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast - Despite hearing it sucked , I figured I would pick it up (on the cheap) just for novelty's sake.
Wii Fit - Unnecessary now that Wii Fit Plus is out.
Wii Music - Same as Barrel Blast , sucks but would get it for novelty.

Moving on to Metroid Prime Trilogy , I have to admit , I'm not completely sold on the new play control style for the game. It's weird , when I originally played the first game on the :gc: I had no problem using the control scheme for the game , but I had a hard time just completing through the insect core boss where you get the missles. I don't know if it's because I just haven't gotten used to the control style yet , or if subconsciously I'm just so used to the old style that I can't adapt (despite it being years since I last played the game). Maybe a bit of both. To throw a wrench into the whole thing though , I've played through The Conduit , which uses a similar control style and had no real issues with that game. Originally I had planned to sell off my copies of Metroid Prime 1 and 2 since I have them in the bundle , but now I'm thinking that maybe I won't.

kiribee
01-15-2010, 11:31 PM
Anyone interested 41.99 BuyItNow
http://cgi.ebay.com/Metroid-Prime-Trilogy-Wii-2009_W0QQitemZ200428662210QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo _Games_Games?hash=item2eaa7aadc2

Ahhh, some genius went and bid on it.....
It either must be a reaaaaal cheapassgamer praying that he gets it for $1 less, or he didn't want anyone else to buy it for a decent price.

-_-

david12795
01-16-2010, 01:10 AM
woo got 2 copies of Metroid prime trilogy for $15 at FYE

Zing
01-16-2010, 01:47 AM
Wow. This thread just got a million times more stupid than it already was.

Just at the moment you posted. Coincidence? :applause:

Strell
01-16-2010, 01:48 AM
Naw. The moment I posted, the thread got much more well endowed.

foltzie
01-16-2010, 10:03 AM
Naw. The moment I posted, the thread got much more well endowed.

and infected, as per the John Holmes law...

theflicker
01-17-2010, 01:35 AM
woo got 2 copies of Metroid prime trilogy for $15 at FYE

How? Used, coupon, rebate?

david12795
01-17-2010, 01:38 AM
How? Used, coupon, rebate?

Store closing

datura
01-17-2010, 10:05 AM
Got my copy from GameStop yesterday because I couldn't find it anywhere else in my area. I had a $25 gift card so I used that. After the Best Buy sale, it was hard to bring myself to spend $50, but by the time I went to the store that weekend it was already out of stock.

I'm in no rush to play the thing but wanted to grab a copy before they're gone.

Droenixjpn
01-18-2010, 07:04 PM
...seems like I need to send my console in for Repair. Since my copy is not able to be read. :/

I hope this does not cost me any cash (aside from shipping and handling.)

EDIT: It costs me nothing to repair the Wii for this problem. Awesome. :D Sadly, I won't get the Wii back for about 2 weeks or so.

Kaoz
01-18-2010, 07:35 PM
...seems like I need to send my console in for Repair. Since my copy is not able to be read. :/

I hope this does not cost me any cash (aside from shipping and handling.)

EDIT: It costs me nothing to repair the Wii for this problem. Awesome. :D Sadly, I won't get the Wii back for about 2 weeks or so.

That sucks. At least Nintendo is good about getting repairs back fast, I sent mine in and got it back 5-6 days later.

Droenixjpn
01-18-2010, 07:56 PM
Whoa nice. :D So, hopefully I'll get it back in a week or so. Woot!

I was wondering what the problem with my game was, lol. I decided to let them send me a shipping label, gives me time to play a couple days of the Wii.

mickeyp
01-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Do you think it was wise to buy the game used at gamestop if I didn't find it elsewhere? Not concerned about it being used just about the cost $40 with edge card.

MasterSun1
01-19-2010, 01:54 PM
I believe Wal-Mart has this for $39.96.

PaulDE01
01-19-2010, 02:04 PM
I ordered the game back when Best Buy had it for 19.99. I could not make it to the store since Delaware had a major snowstorm at that time. Well needless to say, the site never got it back in and sent me a cancellation. I went to my local Best Buy on Sunday (Christiana, DE) and what do I see...at least 5 copies of the game! I called the 1-800 number and they were able to switch the order to a pickup so that worked out well.

mickeyp
01-19-2010, 04:42 PM
I believe Wal-Mart has this for $39.96.
Well that would be good. I guess I'll try the used copy and if I like it maybe I should buy the new copy because mine did not come with the white slip cover.

mickeyp
01-23-2010, 12:21 PM
My son is playing it now prime 3 corruption and seems to like it. He played a little of metroid prime and got to the second boss.

CocheseUGA
01-23-2010, 01:59 PM
I ordered the game back when Best Buy had it for 19.99. I could not make it to the store since Delaware had a major snowstorm at that time. Well needless to say, the site never got it back in and sent me a cancellation. I went to my local Best Buy on Sunday (Christiana, DE) and what do I see...at least 5 copies of the game! I called the 1-800 number and they were able to switch the order to a pickup so that worked out well.

Lucky. I had to go pay double at GS and not get a white slipcover. I ordered before the store opened that Sunday and they 'ran out.'

Friend of Sonic
01-23-2010, 09:36 PM
Used at my local Gameostop, but missing the artbook. I COULD swap the artbook out from the display case for the new copy. But that'd be wrong.

I'm really hoping this clearances at Target. Also by the way, is the normal Best Buy price 49.99?

Strell
01-23-2010, 10:48 PM
I've noticed it is no longer listed on Best Buy.com. Does that mean anything? I didn't bother to ask for a scan in store.

Gothic Walrus
01-25-2010, 06:54 PM
Eh. I'm too broke to be spending money on games now, but all of these games have been in print long enough where they're not going to suddenly become impossible to find or ultra-expensive. I can't say I wouldn't like Fire Emblem, Mario Strikers, or Wario Land, but I also know that if I want to play them in the future they'll still exist somewhere. Besides, I've still got my trusty backlog, and I've never even finished the GameCube Battalion Wars and Fire Emblem. :lol:

At least I already got around to picking up Metroid Prime Trilogy and Pikmin. $35 for the two of them wasn't so bad.

Also, the level of general stupidity in this thread is impressive.

And for some games, a straight up cheap reprint would be fine. How much money would they really lose on a half height and width white DVD case with no manual?

Probably a lot, because those cases are non-standard and (even with the reduced cost of materials) would cost more to manufacture as a result.

Going back a few pages...
It's why Madworld is on sale for $13 brand spankin' new.

One game does not a trend make. A title that's firmly implanted in a niche genre and stylized to the point where it might be a turnoff for some gamers isn't the best one to extrapolate sales trends from.

On subject ... I can't believe how many people are surprised by this. It seems like the game wasn't selling very well, and people were passing on it even at 20-30 bucks (a lot of people bought it then, myself included, but obviously anyone mad about this didn't). I mean, if you can't sell the game for 20 bucks, why would you keep trying to? Especially with the steelbook that's increased production cost. Add on the fact that, like others have said it's a collectors edition. Just because some games print way too many copies of the premier edition, doesn't mean that all collector's and limited editions should.

Exactly. The cost of manufacturing a steelbook plus the multiple discs means that Metroid Prime Trilogy costs Nintendo more to manufacture than any title not shipping with a Balance Board or other accessory.

ChibiJosh
01-25-2010, 09:26 PM
Finally started playing Metroid Prime 3 after taking a couple months break since beating the first 2.

The Crotch
01-25-2010, 10:28 PM
Did someone just say "Fire Emblem"?

ChibiJosh
01-25-2010, 10:33 PM
did someone just say "fire emblem"?

<3

theflicker
01-28-2010, 12:11 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Metroid-Prime-Trilogy-Collectors-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002ATY7JE/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2BJQ8ITYJEQA1&colid=2UPBH3N0KKG05

In stock on February 1, 2010.
Order it now.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

Back in print? (Thanks, Nintendo!)

If so, probably no more steelbook, would be my guess.

Lone_Prodigy
01-28-2010, 12:53 AM
Exactly. The cost of manufacturing a steelbook plus the multiple discs means that Metroid Prime Trilogy costs Nintendo more to manufacture than any title not shipping with a Balance Board or other accessory.

MPT was one disc.

On another note, I like the trilingual full-colour manual in this. More games (especially collector's/limited editions) should have full-colour manuals. My Dragon Age CE manual is black-and-white. It bugs me a bit when manuals are so thin they can't even stay clipped to the case.

Corvin
01-28-2010, 08:17 AM
On another note, I like the trilingual full-colour manual in this.

I don't. It may save them some time and pennies in the long run, but trilingual manuals are a huge waste of paper. Think 1 language 10pp manual for each of three regions = 30pp. Instead we're getting a 30pp trilingual manual for each of three regions = 90pp. Not very Green on Nintendo's part.

But how about back on track. I finally started Metroid Prime this past weekend. First time I've played it since it's original release. I am totally eating it up like it was a 2009 GOTY contender. :lol: For its age it looks amazing on my HDTV. Like Pikmin though, I think the Wii controls are a wash. Not bad, but no perfect either. I didn't consider the GCN controls broken so Wii controls are more of a lateral move. I never played Corruption, so my goal is to get through all three games this year.

ROB64
01-28-2010, 09:06 AM
I'm still pissed off that Best Buy screwed me on this (canceled my backorder, didn't answer ONE of the twenty fucking emails I sent them), that I haven't bought it yet. I'm still sort of hoping for another $20 sale, even though I know it will never happen.
I guess I might pick it up when I go to preorder Endless Ocean 2...

Kaoz
01-28-2010, 09:48 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Metroid-Prime-Trilogy-Collectors-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002ATY7JE/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2BJQ8ITYJEQA1&colid=2UPBH3N0KKG05



Back in print? (Thanks, Nintendo!)

If so, probably no more steelbook, would be my guess.

Back out of stock again, still says discontinued. They probably just ran into a few extra copies or something.

Gothic Walrus
01-28-2010, 06:17 PM
MPT was one disc.

On another note, I like the trilingual full-colour manual in this. More games (especially collector's/limited editions) should have full-colour manuals. My Dragon Age CE manual is black-and-white. It bugs me a bit when manuals are so thin they can't even stay clipped to the case.

Oh. I haven't opened my copy yet. :lol:

Either way, the cost of making the package is still going to be higher because of the steelbook.

Droenixjpn
01-28-2010, 06:52 PM
Back out of stock again, still says discontinued. They probably just ran into a few extra copies or something.

Yeah... I feel scared sending in my copy of the game and my Wii to Nintendo now. They might try and sell off my copy ;_;.

mickeyp
01-28-2010, 09:51 PM
Yeah... I feel scared sending in my copy of the game and my Wii to Nintendo now. They might try and sell off my copy ;_;.
Why are you sending in a copy of your game?

icedrake523
01-30-2010, 02:48 PM
My TRU had about 7 copies and Target had 2-3 copies left.

KingBroly
01-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Why are you sending in a copy of your game?

The way he words it I'm guessing it's stuck in the disc drive.

kiribee
02-01-2010, 01:10 AM
I noticed my local bestbuy went from 2 copys of this game in stock, to about 8 copys..

They also now have about 6 pikmins...wtf?! They had none not long ago..

thelaughingman
02-04-2010, 10:50 AM
Wow, I'm so glad I bumped into a gamer at Gamestop (Canada) the other day and stopped him from trading in his copy for $17 store credit... I bought it off him for $15 cash instead! :D

dothog
02-09-2010, 11:21 AM
Replaying MP1 felt so right; MP2 was hard, but okay; MP3 has taken this storyline thing way beyond reasonable. The scrolling dialogue was the little bit that killed my momentum in playing through the disc.

Does MP3 just have a lot of BS in the beginning, or am I going to have to put up with more of this through the game? I just want a frigging metroid game with crazy maps and lots of doubling back. If I want Zelda, I'll play Zelda. If MP3 shapes up, please chime in.

KingBroly
02-09-2010, 11:24 AM
It's pretty front heavy.

willardhaven
02-09-2010, 06:05 PM
I'm not sure if 2 or 3 are really even worth playing.

dothog
02-09-2010, 07:51 PM
I'm not sure if 2 or 3 are really even worth playing.
I don't know if the tongue is in cheek on that one, but I will agree that MP1 is far superior in my view. It's one of those less-is-more cases. Also one of those "why are you putting all this bullshit in a METROID game?" cases.

willardhaven
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM
I keep working at 2 and 3 based on my fondness for the first game, I'm having a hard time getting through all the text and bs.

soonersfan60
02-09-2010, 09:09 PM
My son just finished the 3rd one, and said 1 is his fav, then 3, then 2.

Strell
02-09-2010, 09:11 PM
I keep working at 2 and 3 based on my fondness for the first game, I'm having a hard time getting through all the text and bs.

An RPG fan complaining about text and writing. Time has stopped around me.

The Crotch
02-09-2010, 09:11 PM
Number three Metroids-up after the initial bit on the ship and the planetary defense thing. Still more dialogue heavy than a Metroid should be, but it remains a damn awesome game.

KingBroly
02-09-2010, 09:20 PM
I'm not sure if 2 or 3 are really even worth playing.

This is probably the most wrong thing ever.

willardhaven
02-09-2010, 09:36 PM
An RPG fan complaining about text and writing. Time has stopped around me.

Would you want platforming in a baseball game? Come on. When I play Metroid I want to shoot aliens and explore, not chit chat. I often complain about useless dialogue and fluff in RPGs, which gets me a lot of flak from purists.

This is probably the most wrong thing ever.

Why can't I have an opinion or doubts about a game I'm playing?

You guys are so uptight.

Strell
02-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Yeah. And after the first fifteen minutes of running around Halo base, you're off to a planet. Then the only voice you hear is the sound of your ship telling you where to head to, with the occasional "we've picked up a reading at X" stuff. Huge majority of the game (MP3) is stark silence.

In terms of load-up, Metroid is notoriously small, and always has been. I picture you people making similar comments about Super Metroid, and start thinking that doomsday devices might not actually be all that ill in thought.

The Crotch
02-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Why can't I have an opinion or doubts about a game I'm playing?

You guys are so uptight.
Why can't we criticize your opinions without you complaining about us oppressing you or somethin'?

Strell
02-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Whoa slow down there. This shit is getting all meta.

willardhaven
02-09-2010, 10:07 PM
Yeah. And after the first fifteen minutes of running around Halo base, you're off to a planet. Then the only voice you hear is the sound of your ship telling you where to head to, with the occasional "we've picked up a reading at X" stuff. Huge majority of the game (MP3) is stark silence.

In terms of load-up, Metroid is notoriously small, and always has been. I picture you people making similar comments about Super Metroid, and start thinking that doomsday devices might not actually be all that ill in thought.

I don't know what you're talking about as far as Super Metroid is concerned, I just got bored with the beginning of Prime 2 and 3. I didn't even say I was going to stop playing them...

Why can't we criticize your opinions without you complaining about us oppressing you or somethin'?

You're free to do so, it just seems to be such a big deal to you that I had something bad to say about the games.

The Crotch
02-10-2010, 12:16 AM
You're free to do so, it just seems to be such a big deal to you that I had something bad to say about the games.
The longest response to your initial statement about the games was mine, which was all of two sentences. For comparison's sake, this post is three sentences. This post is now 50% more of a big deal than anything that has been said on this topic.

dothog
02-10-2010, 01:03 PM
Yeah. And after the first fifteen minutes of running around Halo base, you're off to a planet. Then the only voice you hear is the sound of your ship telling you where to head to, with the occasional "we've picked up a reading at X" stuff. Huge majority of the game (MP3) is stark silence.

In terms of load-up, Metroid is notoriously small, and always has been. I picture you people making similar comments about Super Metroid, and start thinking that doomsday devices might not actually be all that ill in thought.
"Us people" are talking about MP3 vs. the others. Not Metroid in general. 15 minutes for the so-called load-up is a low estimate -- maybe you're going on about a second or third playthrough?

I've played further into MP3, and while it's become more "metroidy," to snidely suggest that it snuggles into the canon alongside Super Metroid is extremely misleading. I could detail why and how, but I'd rather duck into a concrete bunker. There's a nuclear winter to come because someone stepped on poor little Samus's toes.

willardhaven
02-10-2010, 02:23 PM
The longest response to your initial statement about the games was mine, which was all of two sentences. For comparison's sake, this post is three sentences. This post is now 50% more of a big deal than anything that has been said on this topic.

Well you said my opinion was the most wrong thing ever. If that's so, would I not be correct by inferring that you considered it a big deal? Hyperbole is fine but it can sometimes makes you seem like one of those maniac "hardcore" gamers.

This thread is almost as wordy as the opening of MP3.

The Crotch
02-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Well you said my opinion was the most wrong thing ever. If that's so, would I not be correct by inferring that you considered it a big deal? Hyperbole is fine but it can sometimes makes you seem like one of those maniac "hardcore" gamers.
1: I never actually said that. You're mixing me up with someone who is somewhat less worthy.
2: So fuckin' what? It's harmless hyperbole. You new to the internet?
...
3: I heard that Metroid is really a girl. Is this true?

willardhaven
02-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Yeah you're right I confused you with the other guy.

Droenixjpn
02-19-2010, 02:22 AM
So yeah, I got my Wii back and this game is now able to be played! I haven't touched the story modes on any of the game, but I played the Multiplayer on MP2. It seems pretty cool.

I'll have to start MP1 soon, and give that a shot.

donssword
02-21-2010, 02:09 AM
I'm still seeing these in all the Targets and Walmarts I step into.

optimusprime8062
05-19-2010, 10:26 PM
Anyword on reprints? Or why they stopped printing them?

Halo05
05-19-2010, 10:30 PM
I still see it pretty frequently. They probably stopped printing them because people stopped buying them.

donssword
05-23-2010, 12:40 PM
They were Limited Editions, and Nintendo didn't want to keep it in print, like most of their games since it was a reprint, just like the Play Control titles that have dropped to clearance everywhere--they are not meant for long tail sales like the Mario titles.

I still see these in Walmarts and Targets, so there are still a few floating out there. Funny all the panic initially when they announced the end of the print run.

icedrake523
05-23-2010, 12:51 PM
My TRU had a few for $40 when I last went there.

Droenixjpn
05-23-2010, 01:33 PM
I plan on playing Metroid Prime 1 today and see how I do. Never had a chance to play it before and I hope to have an excellent experience on the game. Hopefully the sun won't affect the gameplay that much.

Stainless Alloy
05-27-2010, 01:27 PM
I went to 3 walmarts, 2 targets, and 7 gamestops, looking for this game until I finally found a used copy for $40. I would have bought it when it came out, but I didn't have a wii at the time. The copy I got the disk is perfect without a scratch, the metal box has a slight dent, and the plastic cover has a bent corner and a squished side. I used to have Prime 1 and 2 for gamecube, but I prefer the wii controls over the gamecube's.

esq373
06-01-2010, 03:34 AM
Incase anyone from Anaheim, California is looking for this game, Best Buy near the Block at Orange has three copies left as of today. Not on sale though.

BriGuy27
06-03-2010, 08:49 PM
I saw a couple at Target for $50.

I had just bought it on ebay used for $38 though

cmb00
06-03-2010, 08:56 PM
they have them at target in colonial heights va.

JStryke
06-04-2010, 05:40 PM
I saw a good many copies down in Martinsburg, WV last night down at Best Buy for those in the area interested.

bowlzer
06-13-2010, 12:00 AM
I was at my local GameCrazy store-closing-sale today. They had copies 30% off $50. I'm kinda sorry I didn't pick one up.

prometheus_5
07-15-2010, 08:38 PM
Saw three copies at target in Pensacola fl, I picked one up and went back three minutes later. Only one left. $34.97 I believe.

TheLongshot
07-16-2010, 01:14 PM
Unfortunately, my local Targets have been pretty barren of Metroid Prime games for a while. I did find a used copy at GameStop for $40, tho.

wjhard63
08-20-2010, 01:39 PM
In preparation for Other M coming out, I've been trying to play through Trilogy (even though I've played through the original GC & Wii versions at least twice), unlocking all the bonus content I can. That said, I've found I am a credit or two shy of all the green credits/vouchers I need for all the Corruption bonuses. Is anybody in the same boat and want to trade vouchers or anyone who has extra vouchers feel like sending me a few? Please PM me if interested. Thanks!

Erad30
08-20-2010, 05:30 PM
I found it at a Kmart 2 days ago of all places. Last copy they had. Psyched because for whatever reason I've never gone all the way through any of them. Determined to fix that, though not necessarily before Other M hits seeing as that's in just 11 days.

Dezuria
09-14-2010, 09:16 AM
There was only 1 copy near me, and it was Gamestop selling it for $55, used.

Then I checked Kmart for kicks, and they had a whole row of new ones for the normal price. :)

plasticbathmonki
09-14-2010, 09:53 AM
Man, I've been looking for one of these in the Austin area for months now. I think the well might have dried up in central Texas. :(

And Other M is just not doing it for me.

Gourd
09-14-2010, 01:30 PM
I really wish Nintendo would re print this for all of those who didn't get a chance to purchase it the first time around.

After playing with Metroid Other M for an hour, I put it aside and decided to continue working on this set of games. I still have Metroid Prime 2 and 3 to complete, and if they are anything like Metroid Prime 1, I'll find them a bit easier to control than Other M.

Hopefully finishing the Prime games will inspire me to give Other M another shot. Some people are getting quite a bit of enjoyment out of it...

Back to the topic on hand. I'm not sure if the Trilogy sold poorly. I can't think of any reason for why Nintendo wouldn't want to continue making money, so there must be something to this business decision that isn't obvious at first approach.

willardhaven
09-14-2010, 10:29 PM
Sakamoto hates Metroid Prime because it's better than Fusion and Zero Mission, he probably begged Nintendo to cease production on it because it would cannibalize Other M.

KingBroly
09-14-2010, 10:40 PM
What? They said from the beginning it'd be a very limited release, mainly due to the packaging.

willardhaven
09-14-2010, 10:56 PM
I was just kidding, you are probably right about that.

KingBroly
09-14-2010, 11:27 PM
I don't like the fact that people are trying to buy Trilogy A YEAR after it released. It's like they only now realized 'hey, 3 great games for one price is awesome'. Especially when it was known it'd be a limited release.

nickerous
09-14-2010, 11:41 PM
Personally, I never got into the Prime games. I've been waiting for a new 2d Metroid for years. Other M hasn't satisfied that need as of yet. I am more interested in it than the Prime games, though.

KingBroly
09-15-2010, 12:53 AM
I've been waiting for a 2D Metroid game on DS too. Other M isn't one, and was never advertised as one. But I still like it quite a bit.

plasticbathmonki
09-15-2010, 09:55 AM
I don't like the fact that people are trying to buy Trilogy A YEAR after it released. It's like they only now realized 'hey, 3 great games for one price is awesome'. Especially when it was known it'd be a limited release.

I only bought my Wii a few months ago, so I was a little late to the party ;)

KingBroly
09-15-2010, 10:00 AM
I only bought my Wii a few months ago, so I was a little late to the party ;)

I was mainly focusing my displeasure towards people who already had a Wii.

crunchewy
09-15-2010, 11:05 AM
I didn't buy Trilogy because of limited funds and the usual backlog, which seems endless. Of course now I wish I had, but oh well. I keep hoping the multiple copies at the kmart across the street from where I work (which is the happy ending?) will go on clearance, but maybe they never will. At least I know there's a source for them at retail and not more.

Lone_Prodigy
09-15-2010, 02:02 PM
I bought it day one because it was an amazing deal, I'm a Metroid fan, and knowing Nintendo it wasn't dropping in price anytime soon. I sold MP1, 2, and 3 later.

RyokoYaksa
09-17-2010, 08:38 PM
What? They said from the beginning it'd be a very limited release, mainly due to the packaging.
Well, a Collector's Edition tends not to be the only edition, you know? :cry:

I was thankful to get the last two copies of my at my local TRU for $40 each just a week ago.

KingBroly
09-17-2010, 10:57 PM
I bought it day one because it was an amazing deal, I'm a Metroid fan, and knowing Nintendo it wasn't dropping in price anytime soon. I sold MP1, 2, and 3 later.

>_> The glorious sequence breaks you could be having right now in MP1 or MP2 (with the recently discovered 'skip losing all your stuff' trick)

jaredstorm
09-18-2010, 03:56 AM
(with the recently discovered 'skip losing all your stuff' trick)

Tell me more!

KingBroly
09-18-2010, 04:05 AM
Tell me more!

Remember, Gamecube version only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIH76tIwlDo

Dominick331
09-18-2010, 01:11 PM
Several Kmart in my area still have them in stock (southern NJ) but still priced at $49.99.

Prix Dante
09-24-2010, 03:03 AM
Several Kmart in my area still have them in stock (southern NJ) but still priced at $49.99.

really? Damn. I'm on the hunt to find it at a decent price.

icedrake523
09-24-2010, 10:47 AM
I'd pick it up at $50. Better to have it now than pay some ridiculous price a year or 2 later.

Josh5890
09-25-2010, 02:49 AM
Last month when Other M came out, Kmart was offering $20 off the Trilogy when getting Other M. I got both for $85 after taxes.