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Doomed
10-02-2008, 05:39 PM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Metroid+Prime+Trilogy+-+Nintendo+Wii/9424205.p?skuId=9424205&productCategoryId=pcmcat147400050000&id=1218102963486&AID=10597222&PID=1312731&URL=http&ref=39&loc=01#37;3A%252F%252Fwww.bestbuy.com%252Fsite%252 FMetroid%252BPrime%252BTrilogy%252B-%252BNintendo%252BWii%252F9424205.p%253FskuId%253D 9424205%2526productCategoryId%253Dpcmcat1474000500 00%2526id%253D1218102963486%26ref%3D39%26loc%3D01

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/7y8SXfbq4nlR_ZO15BY3yHdKL7erLAnk
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/z92YoGe2l_fUaP1xyth5emyE060ze_Qx/O18d4WGEPamtTGCJHv4jvybimpfSq8nB.jpg
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http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915529p1.html
Seven titles are currently on the way for the lineup. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat kicks things off on December 11[in Japan], and will be followed by Pikmin on December 25. In 2009, Nintendo plans on releasing Chibi Robo!, Pikmin 2, Mario Tennis GC, Metroid Prime, and Metroid Prime 2 Dark Echoes.
fuck. Why can't Nintendo just reprint the damn games? The ONLY games I can see benefiting from waggle is Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 with Metroid Prime 3 controls.

Pikmin and its sequel get pretty intense with the button mashing during boss battles. If Nintendo replaces that with waggle a lot of people will be pissed. I also have no desire to move the Wii remote every time I want to pluck a Pikmin.

Chibi-Robo! is awesome though. Please, Nintendo. Don't mess with Chibi-Robo!

maigoyume
10-02-2008, 05:46 PM
Yea, they'd be better off just reprinting them. I mean if it comes down to it I'd probably end up picking up mario tennis and both primes (AGAIN), but besides that the rest should be left alone.

lilboo
10-02-2008, 05:48 PM
Now I will DEF pick up Metroid Prime 1 and 2.
I said it before that they should do this! ::LAWSUIT::

They should also remake Luigi's Mansion. Luigi's Mansion would play really well with remote & nunchuck controls.

Doomed
10-02-2008, 06:07 PM
Some GC games look AMAZING with just component cables. TimeSplitters: Future Perfect looks perfect when you use the 16:9 and 480p. Pikmin 2 looks great with 480p.

Nintendo, free advise. Stay the course rereleasing them. Good idea. But here's some things you can and can't do.

Can:
Add 480p and 16:9 to games without them.
Include bonus content that DOES NOT change the course of the main game. (If I have to complete five more challenges in Pikmin 2 to unlock the final cinema, it's a failure.)
Add the option for Wii controls. Not everybody has a GC controller.

CANNOT:
Remove the option of using a GC controller
Take away content already there
Relese a game with no new content at a price over $20. Any over is just BS. I know RE4 got away with it, but Nintendo would be so much cooler in my book if they left these games at PC pricing.

utopianmachine
10-02-2008, 06:12 PM
When I first read this information, I saw it as a business tactic by Nintendo. Granted, everything is a business tactic in some way, but honestly, the first thing that came to mind is that Nintendo is trying to boost their repertoire of first party titles by providing titles that were available last gen. Titles that, I suppose they suppose, may get more attention and appreciation in the Wii's market which seems better positioned to support such quality titles.

I look at this as a way for Nintendo to say, "And in the 2008-2009 period, we produced 15 first party games!", when really, all we're seeing is rehashes with Wii controls. Is this a bad thing for gamers? I wouldn't say so, as Nintendo as a developer seems to have Wii controls spot-on. But still, it just seems to me a ploy by the big N to capitalize on existing software. But that's business.

tiredfornow
10-02-2008, 06:13 PM
:rofl:

How about some new titles worth playing, please?

Doomed
10-02-2008, 06:24 PM
The only games that I am not sure are GREAT out of all of those are Metroid Prime 2, DK Jungle Beat, and Mario Power Tennis. That's because I haven't played them.

dothog
10-02-2008, 06:35 PM
The only games that I am not sure are GREAT out of all of those are Metroid Prime 2, DK Jungle Beat, and Mario Power Tennis. That's because I haven't played them.
Jungle Beat is IMO the superstar of that list. I'm no enemy to the Primes, but DKJB kicks tons of ass. I usually flip the bird to the tie-wearing monkey, but I got sucked into DKJB. It's fun, it looks great, and it's easy to pick up. Beats the hell out of your hands though.

My hope for a re-release of DKJB is that they find a way to better incorporate rhythm, timing, and an awareness of the stage music into the control. Would be cool if staying in time with the stage music made you move/attack faster. It's a great game in any case.

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 06:50 PM
There's Metroid. Who the hell could complain?

Gothic Walrus
10-02-2008, 06:52 PM
If this means I can finally afford a copy of Pikmin 2, I'm all for it.

As for the rest of the titles, I'm not sure what Wii controls will add to Chibi Robo or either of the Pikmin games. Jungle Beat and Metroid Prime were obvious, though I'm not sure I'll be able to justify the cost since I already own the originals. I'm disappointed that Mario Tennis is on there since it means we won't see a true Wii version for some time, but if online play is added I might find it in my heart to forgive them. ;)

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 06:52 PM
Woah. I just thought of MP2's multiplayer. Might it actually be good for something besides morph-ball racing?

foltzie
10-02-2008, 06:58 PM
I have no complaints, I'm tempted to put my GCN titles on eBay, but not until I find out if there are any material improvements.

lilboo
10-02-2008, 06:59 PM
They all better come with 480p/16:9. If not, they are already not worth it.
They all better come with a $29.99 tag or less like Resident Evil 4, or it will not be worth it.

That's pretty much it. I really doubt they'll add any type of WiFi..but, who knows. If they do, then it's an added bonus. If anything, they just need be widescreen games in 480p using Wii controls (with other controller scheme options, as always)

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 08:21 PM
Looks like Pikmin's not gonna use much waggle, if any. Trailers show the pointer being used to aim Pikmin tosses and direct them as you would with the C-Stick. Dunno if I'll double-dip there, though I sure as hell will on the Primes. Don't care about that 16:9 business. I just want more Metroid.

Yaxley
10-02-2008, 08:29 PM
I just picked up a used copy of Pikmin 2 a couple of weeks ago. When I took it to the counter, one of the clerks said sarcastically, "Wow, that game lasted about seven minutes." At first I thought he was critiquing the length of the game. Then I realized he meant he had just put the copy on the shelf a few minutes before I walked in.

So I guess there is at least some sort of a demand for these games. Although, since I have most of them for the Cube already, I doubt I'll want new versions with waggle.

Antic
10-02-2008, 08:45 PM
I will definitely be picking up the Metroid Prime games (even though I own them already on the GC). I've been hoping for awhile they'd do that. Maybe if enough people buy it, they'll try and get another Metroid game.

Anyone think they'd do it for Wind Waker?

Doomed
10-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Anyone think they'd do it for Wind Waker?
Hint: Does Nintendo like money?

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 09:25 PM
Hate to say it, but I'd bite. Don't think it would help Wind Waker that much outside of the archery (using the bow for the first time was my favourite part of TP), but it's fucking Wind Waker.

Doomed
10-02-2008, 09:36 PM
Hate to say it, but I'd bite. Don't think it would help Wind Waker that much outside of the archery (using the bow for the first time was my favourite part of TP), but it's fucking Wind Waker.
tWW>aLttP>tMC>the rest

The Wind Waker is the only 3D Zelda that is fun.

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 09:38 PM
I wouldn't go that far...

... but I will go far enough to say that it's the most fun game I've ever played.

Strell
10-02-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm envisioning this to be GBA Player's Choice Part 2: This Time It's Wii-rsonal

I.e., we'll get one line of games out, and then *poof.* Dead.

Nintendo doesn't give a shit about Metroid so I don't see that selling well. Pikmin might have decent sales. Mario Tennis will sell well due to the name alone. DKJB deserves to sell mad proper but it won't. Chibi Robo is sort of in the same boat as DKJB.

Abortion en route, people.

jollydwarf
10-02-2008, 09:50 PM
...

...

...guhhh...

(Bites down hard on shirt sleeve, until eyes well up with tears.)

maigoyume
10-02-2008, 11:18 PM
tWW>aLttP>tMC>the rest

The Wind Waker is the only 3D Zelda that is fun.I loved WW, its by far my favourite 3D one, followed by MM, OoT and TP.

Corvin
10-02-2008, 11:21 PM
I'm on the fence. As long as this doesn't impede new releases, then fine, which is what I think this is. They have this huge gap to fill before some new AAA titles will be ready so this is a way to pass the time. Also pricing is huge. I don't think $30 will cut it for the core gamer that already played these games, it needs to be $20.

That being said, Pikmin seems like a good choice as well as Luigi's Mansion, Mario Kart and the Metroid games. I don't see them double dipping on the Mario sports titles as it would conflict with the Wii sports/Mario titles.

The Crotch
10-02-2008, 11:28 PM
I'm on the fence. As long as this doesn't impede new releases, then fine, which is what I think this is. They have this huge gap to fill before some new AAA titles will be ready so this is a way to pass the time. Also pricing is huge. I don't think $30 will cut it for the core gamer that already played these games, it needs to be $20.

That being said, Pikmin seems like a good choice as well as Luigi's Mansion, Mario Kart and the Metroid games. I don't see them double dipping on the Mario sports titles as it would conflict with the Wii sports/Mario titles.I agree that it's a good way to eat up time before the big-name games, but I'm a bit more flexible on the pricing. $30 for Pikmin? Probably not. $30 for Metroid? I'm in.

Gameboy415
10-02-2008, 11:53 PM
I'm in for all of them.......eventually.

If they launch between $20-30 I'll probably bite right away, but any more than that and I'm waiting for a sale. I'd love to play MP1-2 and Mario Power Tennis again though.

I'm pretty sure Wind Waker was confirmed a long time ago...?
Luigi's Mansion is a no-brainer too.

I would LOVE to see Eternal Darkness come back with Wii-controls but that may be a pipe-dream now that Silicon Knights is working w/Microsoft. :(

bigdaddy
10-03-2008, 12:51 AM
Chibi Robo? Why redo that game? Same with DK:JB, I got both for $10. Plus you know there will be a Mario Tennis for the Wii anyways. Just reprint some great selling GC games in a new cover.

foltzie
10-03-2008, 01:11 AM
Chibi Robo? Why redo that game? Same with DK:JB, I got both for $10. Plus you know there will be a Mario Tennis for the Wii anyways. Just reprint some great selling GC games in a new cover.

Retailers arent and will not carry Gamecube labeled games anymore. So if putting them in a white case moves 100,000k more units then mission accomplished.

KingBroly
10-03-2008, 01:52 AM
The only one I don't get is Mario Tennis GC. Why is that one being remade? Don't you think it'd be more beneficial to Nintendo to make a new Mario Tennis game for Wii? I'm surprised it's not already in the works. Also surprised Double Dash isn't on the list because it's a lot better than MKWii (MKWii's 150cc/MM AI is way too aggressive).

Do I think MP2's Multiplayer will be wifi now? God I hope not. It's pretty bad. Unless they include Wii Speak support. I still think MP2's difficulty levels should be dropped though, at least against a couple of bosses.

But for $30 or less, I'm in for MP, MP2, and Pikmin 2. Maybe Pikmin 1.

Mr. 420
10-03-2008, 02:27 AM
I guess I finally get to pick up pikmin 1 and 2. Yay, Nintendo.

Corvin
10-03-2008, 10:05 AM
I would LOVE to see Eternal Darkness come back with Wii-controls but that may be a pipe-dream now that Silicon Knights is working w/Microsoft. :(

Not a pipe dream at all. Dyack has said he has no qualms with working with Nintendo on a sequel. He just has his plate full right now with Too Human. MS doesn't own Silicon Knights.

Ryukahn
10-03-2008, 10:55 AM
At a reasonable price, I'll be picking up Pikmin 1/2 and maybe more.

coolsteel
10-03-2008, 11:23 AM
My first thought was Metroid Prime 1 and 2..... seriously? They go for next to nothing on ebay so I can't imagine demand is all that high, Prime 1 especially. I'm wondering who this is really aimed at and as far as pricing goes anything over 20 is a ripoff . Out of the bunch I would only pick up Pikmin since I was never able to before.

Dr Mario Kart
10-03-2008, 11:26 AM
Its not about demand. Its a matter of which games could be made better. Though in theory there is a good chunk of the install base that didnt play these games previously.

I never played the Metroid Primes or Pikmin because I dont feel that a traditional controller works with those kinds of games. Now I'll get a chance to play them for the first time.

coolsteel
10-03-2008, 11:40 AM
Adding motion controls doesn't automatically make a game better. I played through Metroid Prime 1 and 2 and the controller was flawless with them. A wii version is just the same game with different controls, whether that will be preferable to using the gamecube controller remains to be seen.

Dr Mario Kart
10-03-2008, 11:51 AM
I played Prime 1 for about 10 minutes before I quit. Analog sticks arent a legit option for that type of game to me. Clearly some people can do it.

The exact same game with a pointer is definitely preferable to me.

xycury
10-03-2008, 12:16 PM
Adding motion controls doesn't automatically make a game better. I played through Metroid Prime 1 and 2 and the controller was flawless with them. A wii version is just the same game with different controls, whether that will be preferable to using the gamecube controller remains to be seen.

I don't think we're saying that the games are better, or that the games were horrible under the control schemes, but if it plays like MP3 then it 'will' be better.

I played the demos and didn't like the gamecube controls at all... but I can see how the wiimotes would have a huge advantage of adding better controls.

I'm looking forward to playing MP1/2 with Wii without using the gc pad.

dmunkee
10-03-2008, 12:17 PM
I'm definitely looking forward to giving the Metroid Prime series a go if motion controls are well implemented. I really wanted to play MP3 but not without playing the other 2, which didn't appeal to me for the same reason it didn't appeal to Dr Mario Kart. Now with these re-releases, I'll get the chance to play Metroid Prime and Pikmin with (hopefully good) motion controls, and Nintendo gets my money.

I think a good example of motion controls can make a great game even better would be Resident Evil 4 Wii. After playing with the pointer, I just don't see myself ever going back to the Gamecube controller. Of course, Capcom made a smart move by including the traditional controls as an option as well, something a lot of games could've used. When it comes down to it, all I want is the option.

BlueLobstah
10-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Adding motion controls doesn't automatically make a game better. I played through Metroid Prime 1 and 2 and the controller was flawless with them. A wii version is just the same game with different controls, whether that will be preferable to using the gamecube controller remains to be seen.

I played Prime 1 for about 10 minutes before I quit. Analog sticks arent a legit option for that type of game to me. Clearly some people can do it.

The exact same game with a pointer is definitely preferable to me.


I'm in the same boat with DMK. I picked up Metroid Prime, and couldn't play it due to the control scheme. Yet I have played through Corruption twice, and loved it.

Point being, the "traditional" control scheme for FPSes on consoles is something I've never liked or been able to get used to, so Metroid 1+2 being adapted for the Wiimote is a big draw for me. Aside from that, after playing with Corruption's control scheme, especially after playing with Corruption's control scheme it would be very difficult for me to try and go back and play the first two games using their original controls.

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 12:30 PM
Point being, the "traditional" control scheme for FPSes on consoles is something I've never liked or been able to get used to, so Metroid 1+2 being adapted for the Wiimote is a big draw for me.The first two Primes didn't use a traditional scheme, though...

Regardless, using the remoteis a huge step up on both traditional and MP1/2 controls. Now, there might be some additional stuff required, like more/smarter enemies (hopefully not just more durable) and maybe a bigger weakspot on Prime's exoskeleton to account for our decreased precision.

theflicker
10-03-2008, 12:40 PM
I played Prime 1 for about 10 minutes before I quit. Analog sticks arent a legit option for that type of game to me. Clearly some people can do it.

The exact same game with a pointer is definitely preferable to me.

As it is for me. I can play MP3. MP1 and 2, not so much.

One other thing: I can live with the fact that "waggle" has become a catch-all for "stuff the wiimote does", but I find it to be getting pretty misleading.

SHAKE THE REMOTE TO RUN! = Waggle

Moving around with the analog nunchuk and aiming with the IR remote =/= Waggle

Waggle, to me, means shaking motions replacing button pressing. This is, unforunately, often the case, but not always. (Honestly, I prefer "waggle" to button mashing any day. I've lost a few N64 controllers to Mario Party sessions.)

There are other things the wiimote control scheme is capable of and it definitely offers new life to these older games. I could see them maybe rereleasing Battalion Wars. Another title later in the GCN lifecycle whose sequel was improved by Wii controls.

KingBroly
10-03-2008, 02:22 PM
Topic needs a title change to "Metroid Prime? With Waggle? AWESOME! Oh...and others too"

dothog
10-03-2008, 02:38 PM
SHAKE THE REMOTE TO RUN! = Waggle

Moving around with the analog nunchuk and aiming with the IR remote =/= Waggle

Waggle, to me, means shaking motions replacing button pressing.

This is an important distinction. I'm guilty of falling into the waggle trap and using it re: IR aiming. The RE4 update did a good job, IMO, of inserting appropriate amounts of waggle. And the IR controls were spot on. If the remakes hold to that standard--and perhaps outperform it in other respects--they'll be worth having.

Vinny
10-03-2008, 04:32 PM
Damn, $35 seems kinda pricey just for waggle control. It would be nice if they made the games true widescreen but I'm guessing they won't bother.

I've already played all of the games listed, I honestly can't say I want to pay $35 for potentially better controls.

lanzarlaluna
10-03-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm in the camp that believes MP1 and MP2 were perfectly fine with the GC controller. I will not be buying these unless the games still support GC controller, are 16:9 480p, and difficulty is still brutal on hard mode. A wimpy version of MP2 would be a travesty.

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 06:28 PM
Damn, $35 seems kinda pricey just for waggle control. It would be nice if they made the games true widescreen but I'm guessing they won't bother.

I've already played all of the games listed, I honestly can't say I want to pay $35 for potentially better controls.
Where's this $35 price point coming from? I'd still be in for the Metroids, but I don't think I'd double-dip on anything else.

Also, Doomed - is that Calypso I see?

007
10-03-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm interested to see where they go with this, but the fact remains that I already own every game on that list. It's going to either need to have an amazing price or major improvements for me to look into them.

I'm just glad that DKJB is getting some love. Most overlooked GC game ever.

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm surprised more people aren't worried about DKJB turning into Barrel Blast (or what ever the hell it was called).

BlueLobstah
10-03-2008, 06:42 PM
Where's this $35 price point coming from? I'd still be in for the Metroids, but I don't think I'd double-dip on anything else.

Also, Doomed - is that Calypso I see?


3800 yen = $36. I actually think it will launch at a $30 price point, but that's me.

I'm all up for some Metroid love, but I never played Jungle Beat, so I can't say what my chances of picking that up are. Maybe if it has favorable impressions with the new control scheme I will.

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 06:45 PM
Ah.

...

I'll assume that that 3800 yen figure comes from somewhere and not bother tracking it down 'cause I've gotta get off to TRU and pick up some cheap-ish points cards.

Vinny
10-03-2008, 06:50 PM
Ah.

...

I'll assume that that 3800 yen figure comes from somewhere and not bother tracking it down 'cause I've gotta get off to TRU and pick up some cheap-ish points cards.

It's in the IGN article linked in the first post.;)

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 06:52 PM
It's in the IGN article...See, that's where the disconnect starts...

theflicker
10-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Ah.

...

I'll assume that that 3800 yen figure comes from somewhere and not bother tracking it down 'cause I've gotta get off to TRU and pick up some cheap-ish points cards.

What's this about cheapish points cards at TRU? Or is this more Canadien necromancy?

Doomed
10-03-2008, 08:36 PM
Also, Doomed - is that Calypso I see?
Maybe. ;) Not 100% on it being my full-time avatar yet.

The Crotch
10-03-2008, 08:39 PM
What's this about cheapish points cards at TRU? Or is this more Canadien necromancy?

'Fraid it looks that way (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198996).

EDIT: And I didn't get them today, anyway. I ran into a grocery store on the way and remembered how hungry I was and that I was out of milk. So I bought milk, a bag of perogis, some yogurt, and a roll of duct tape.

EDIT2: Aw, fuck you Yanks! (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/?f=437)

dpadilla4
10-03-2008, 08:44 PM
Damn, now to sell my mario tennis.

The Crotch
10-05-2008, 07:51 PM
Might have been said already, but it's been confirmed that Pikmin 3 is not a remake (http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=12871).

Strell
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Might have been said already, but it's been confirmed that Pikmin 3 is not a remake (http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=12871).

Curses.

I was doing so good at guessing all the new ways Nintendo was going to break the collective spirit of their fans.

Them cheap points might be worth a looksee. Can't really think of any other games I'm interested in that makes the B2G1 all that worthwhile....maybe in a month when we begin sensory overload but not now.

lilboo
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Hey I'm offended!
The Metroid Prime control scheme is NOT waggle!

[-(

The Crotch
10-05-2008, 07:58 PM
Suit yerself, Strell. I just bought 8000 points and a classic controller.

/me never had an N64.

Strell
10-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Plus as we shuffle on toward the holimodays, I usually reserve that time to rack up the points by suggesting that as a gift from people who have no clue what to give me.

They can't really screw that up.

BlueLobstah
10-05-2008, 08:25 PM
Plus as we shuffle on toward the holimodays, I usually reserve that time to rack up the points by suggesting that as a gift from people who have no clue what to give me.

They can't really screw that up.


You haven't met my family.

Lone_Prodigy
10-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Well this is interesting. I finished Prime 1 a few weeks ago and I thought the controls were perfect for that game. Looking over the controls for Prime 3 (I intend to play them in order), it looks a little restrictive in terms of the availability of the buttons.

So that begs the question: do I go with GC or Wii controls for Prime 2?

Surprised that they're Wii-making Mario Tennis, though. I would've thought with Strikers and Sluggers that a new Wii iteration would be released. On that note, where's Golf?

dothog
10-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Curses.

I was doing so good at guessing all the new ways Nintendo was going to break the collective spirit of their fans.

It's good to hear that Pikmin Super Party Fun for the Wii (aka "Pikmin 3") is on its way. The series could use a break from RTS, and Mario Party will enjoy the company.

Doomed
10-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Well this is interesting. I finished Prime 1 a few weeks ago and I thought the controls were perfect for that game. Looking over the controls for Prime 3 (I intend to play them in order), it looks a little restrictive in terms of the availability of the buttons.

So that begs the question: do I go with GC or Wii controls for Prime 2?

Surprised that they're Wii-making Mario Tennis, though. I would've thought with Strikers and Sluggers that a new Wii iteration would be released. On that note, where's Golf?
It raises the question, motherfucker.

I like both, but chances are since MP1 and MP2 were designed for a GC controller, that would be better.

The Crotch
10-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Well this is interesting. I finished Prime 1 a few weeks ago and I thought the controls were perfect for that game. Looking over the controls for Prime 3 (I intend to play them in order), it looks a little restrictive in terms of the availability of the buttons.

So that begs the question: do I go with GC or Wii controls for Prime 2?

Surprised that they're Wii-making Mario Tennis, though. I would've thought with Strikers and Sluggers that a new Wii iteration would be released. On that note, where's Golf?
Not restrictive in the least. I vaguely recall some people - okay, dmaul - having trouble bridging the gap between the "A" button and down on the d-pad, but to be fair, dmaul has trouble pushing a button and breathing at the same time.

Kaijufan
10-05-2008, 10:48 PM
I hated the controls in Metroid Prime - I couldn't even finish the game.

On the other hand I loved the Metroid Prime 3 controls, it just worked so well. I can't wait to buy the remakes with Wii controls.

I would recommend waiting for the Prime 2 remake.

bluesyncopate
10-05-2008, 11:17 PM
I bought a bunch of these soon-to-be-remakes over the past year (used and in good shape, including spending $40 on a used copy of Pikmin 2). Also got Luigi's Mansion, Chibi-Robo, both Metroid Primes...

So of course NOW they're getting re-released and possibly "improved". Crap. However, if there's anything (including GC control schemes) missing from the new versions - then regardless of improvements, I'll be glad I bought the originals.

Wind Waker is just amazing. What a triumph of art design, just an amazing game. The style pretty much overrides the drawn-out treasure hunt that mars its second half.

Lone_Prodigy
10-06-2008, 04:39 PM
I hated the controls in Metroid Prime - I couldn't even finish the game.

On the other hand I loved the Metroid Prime 3 controls, it just worked so well. I can't wait to buy the remakes with Wii controls.

I would recommend waiting for the Prime 2 remake.

I treated Prime 1 like a platformer rather than as an FPS, and I think that's how the game was designed (more about jumping and searching than combat.) Could explain why I had so much trouble with the bosses (where agility and movement is key.)

Maybe the Wii controls will make Prime 2 easier, since I heard it's a lot harder than Prime 1.

rjung
10-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Put me down for a Wind Waker remake with 16:9 and Wii controls. I've never bothered buying any Gamecube games for my Wii because I'm too used to wireless controls to bother.

--R.J.

KingBroly
10-06-2008, 05:26 PM
I think everyone would like a 16:9 Wind Waker with PROPER Wii controls, none of this tacked-on Twilight Princess bullshit.

I'm down for MP, MP2, and Pikmin 2. I think I'd rather wait for a real Mario Tennis on Wii than a remake. Although, it is curious why they're just remaking it.

Javery
10-06-2008, 05:31 PM
I would probably play through both Wind Waker and Luigi's Mansion if they re-released them with 16:9 and 480p support. I'm a sucker.

foltzie
10-06-2008, 11:35 PM
I would probably play through both Wind Waker and Luigi's Mansion if they re-released them with 16:9 and 480p support. I'm a sucker.

I'm there with Luigi's Mansion. Possibly Wind Waker too.

Kaijufan
10-06-2008, 11:45 PM
I think everyone would like a 16:9 Wind Waker with PROPER Wii controls, none of this tacked-on Twilight Princess bullshit.

That's unlikely, since like Twilight Princess Wind Waker was designed for a Gamecube controller, not a Wiimote.

I personally didn't have any problems with the controls in Twilight Princess and I would most likely buy a Wind Waker Wiimake with a similar control scheme.

lilboo
10-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Luigi's Mansion @ 480p and 16:9 = :drool:

Knoxximus
10-11-2008, 03:05 AM
I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...that would be teh secks.

VioletArrows
10-11-2008, 12:38 PM
I know I'm gonna get an earful, but I've been wanting to play Sonic Adventure 1&2 for a while, but my sibs won't let go of them. I'd buy reremakes of those two for $20 a piece.

Doomed
10-11-2008, 01:18 PM
I know I'm gonna get an earful, but I've been wanting to play Sonic Adventure 1&2 for a while, but my sibs won't let go of them. I'd buy reremakes of those two for $20 a piece.
I actually like most of Sonic Adventure and SA2. Although there's plenty to hate. Both have very cheesy and stupid story lines for most of the game, SA has Big the Cat, SA2 has the Tails/Robotnik/Knuckles/Rouge missions and making Knuckles black, both games make Tails even more useless, make use of clichés (oh noes an evil twin!!!), and are impossibly difficult to get 100% completion, I still like them enough to own them.

VioletArrows
10-11-2008, 01:24 PM
I've never gotten 100 on 2, but I definitely remember getting 100% on 1. If anything I thought 1 was a little bit easy.

Lone_Prodigy
10-11-2008, 04:32 PM
I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...that would be teh secks.

This. It's nearly impossible to get 4 GBAs, 3 friends, and 4 GBA-GC cables.

Doomed
10-11-2008, 05:36 PM
This. It's nearly impossible to get 4 GBAs, 3 friends, and 4 GBA-GC cables.
3 friends is easy, three Zelda loving friends is harder, three Zelda loving friends who will play it with you is very difficult. Most I got was 3 including me and we only played one level.

StinkyCheese
10-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Woah, somebody got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.

This aweosme for me because I can not for the life of me find any gamecube games in my area. I was going to order a few online, but I think I'll wait until we get more info on this (price, upgrades, controls, etc)

tsmvengy
10-11-2008, 09:46 PM
You got theeeerved.

Seriously, we're supposed to think this is bad because you paid ridiculous prices for games so they could sit on a shelf? This is a good thing - more people will be able to play these games and that's why people make games, so that people can play them. Forgive me if I don't feel sorry for you.

KingBroly
10-11-2008, 09:58 PM
3 friends is easy, three Zelda loving friends is harder, three Zelda loving friends who will play it with you is very difficult. Most I got was 3 including me and we only played one level.

It'd be cool if FSA was released on Wii where you could use the DS and play with people over NWFC...if they had voice chat.

Chacrana
10-12-2008, 01:05 AM
You really are a complete cunt.

Casiotech
10-12-2008, 01:09 AM
who are you?

Chacrana
10-12-2008, 01:14 AM
What, is your holier-than-thou attitude preventing you from reading my username?

david12795
10-12-2008, 01:56 AM
wo0t good thing i bought pikmin for 2 bucks

i wonder if they'll do a remake on all the mario parties

bmulligan
10-12-2008, 02:03 AM
I hope they re-print Cubivore.

Wii controls could do wonders for that piece of crap. I wonder if Casiotechmeister has a fuckload of Cubivores collecting dust...?

VioletArrows
10-12-2008, 01:46 PM
What were we talking about again?

Knoxximus
10-12-2008, 01:52 PM
What were we talking about again?

How I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...and how that would be teh SECKS!8-)

VioletArrows
10-12-2008, 03:28 PM
How I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...and how that would be teh SECKS!8-)

Actually I've never played that one, even though I like LoZ. It sounds really suited for online multiplayer, though.

Lone_Prodigy
10-12-2008, 03:45 PM
Actually I've never played that one, even though I like LoZ. It sounds really suited for online multiplayer, though.

FSA is one of those games (like FF:CC) that is best played with others. Online with team-chat would rock.

evanft
10-12-2008, 05:57 PM
Online with team-chat would rock.

This ain't the 360, boy. Set those dreams aside.

bmulligan
10-13-2008, 10:09 AM
How I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...and how that would be teh SECKS!8-)

I hate to say this, because I shouldn't have to pay more than $10 for re-makes of GC games I already have, but Four Swords with DS connectivity is a game I'd have to re-buy - price no object.

theflicker
10-13-2008, 10:40 AM
I hate to say this, because I shouldn't have to pay more than $10 for re-makes of GC games I already have, but Four Swords with DS connectivity is a game I'd have to re-buy - price no object.

They could add some Phantom Hourglass styled dungeons too. I'd be down with that.

Strell
10-14-2008, 12:31 AM
How is $10 more for a used copy shipped unaffordable or high value?

Nintendo should sell them on eBay, and proudly proclaim they have come from a smoke-free household.

Cao Cao
10-14-2008, 11:55 PM
Looks like Pikmin 1 & 2 have had their ratings updated by the ESRB:
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/14/play-on-wii-pikmin-ports-possibly-us-bound/

foltzie
10-15-2008, 12:16 AM
Looks like Pikmin 1 & 2 have had their ratings updated by the ESRB:
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/14/play-on-wii-pikmin-ports-possibly-us-bound/

To what "M"?

Yes I know its to include the Wii, but it isnt the first thing to come to mind.

maigoyume
10-15-2008, 02:37 AM
Not going to bother with a Wiimake pf Pikmin 1+2 unless a SIGNIFICANT amount of stuff is added

Already beat Pikmin 100% and about 80% through Pikmin 2.

dothog
10-15-2008, 10:18 AM
Looks like Pikmin 1 & 2 have had their ratings updated by the ESRB:
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/14/play-on-wii-pikmin-ports-possibly-us-bound/
I like the argument in the comments about the proper plural form of "pikmin." As if anybody gives a shit.

Some of the fanboy wishin & hopin has me excited enough for a Play on Wii version of Luigi's Mansion that I'm starting to take it for granted. I realize it will never be.

I'd love to see Nintendo build up a small team whose only function is to update and transfer good GC titles to the Wii. It'd catch a lot of hell from the "core" crowd who (rightfully, at times) bitches for original content on the Wii, but at the same time it would allow for a nice playthrough of the GC years, with better controls and graphics and maybe improved content. I'd be all for it provided the MSRP is reasonable.

crunchewy
10-15-2008, 11:48 AM
How I would love for them to wii-make Zelda Four Swords Adventure with DS wifi compatibility...and how that would be teh SECKS!8-)

Fantastic idea. I'd buy that.

Cao Cao
11-13-2008, 03:15 AM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/929/929327p1.html
Apparently, the Wii version of Donkey Kong Jungle Beat will have some bonus stages.

Kaijufan
11-13-2008, 03:25 AM
Wow. I wasn't planning on buying Donkey Kong Jungle Beat again but as long as we get a reasonable price (say $30 or less) I will buy it again for the new levels and controls.

lilboo
11-13-2008, 08:02 AM
If they indeed add some shit to each these games (minus the 'waggle', of course) then these types of games should be very much worth it. ESPECIALLY if they are $30ish.

I'd imagine maaaaybe, just maaaaaaaybe they could give Metroid Prime 2 online multiplayer? Probably NOT, LOL but still

Cao Cao
12-10-2008, 08:04 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/937/937178p1.html

New features for Pikmin and Mario Tennis wii-makes have been announced. Nothing as major as JB's new levels though:

Pikmin - Some sort of Daily saving feature - "For Pikmin, the new feature mentioned in Famitsu concerns saving. When you save, the game stores day-by-day records of your play. You're free to restart play from the day of your choice."

Mario Tennis - Full motion support ala Wii Sports - "You can now swing the Wiimote like a tennis racket to control your swings, performing forehands, backhands, tosses and smashes by swinging the Wiimote as you would a normal racket. For spin shots, you simply change the angle of the Wiimote when swinging. To perform special shots, you press buttons during the swing. Mario Power Tennis will support play both through the Wiimote on its own and through a Wiimote/Nunchuck combo, the latter presumably allowing you to control your characters on the court."

Doomed
12-10-2008, 08:57 PM
So our worst fears are confirmed. No GC controller support== no buy unless there's some amazing new feature yet to be announced.

The Crotch
12-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Um. If you wanted GC controller support, wouldn't you just buy the GC version? Do people want 480p/16:9 Pikmin that badly?

Strell
12-10-2008, 09:10 PM
So our worst fears are confirmed. No GC controller support== no buy unless there's some amazing new feature yet to be announced.

It doesn't specifically say there is not Gamecube support. It merely points out two control variations.

Granted, generally omission from suggestion = non-existence, so I can see how that conclusion can be reached.

Otherwise, TC is as right as a seige tank tumblin' down the way, ready to deliver a payload of justice.

The Crotch
12-10-2008, 09:32 PM
Somewhere, jarvis307 instinctively reaches for the "Spawn Broodling" button.

Doomed
12-10-2008, 10:11 PM
Um. If you wanted GC controller support, wouldn't you just buy the GC version? Do people want 480p/16:9 Pikmin that badly?
I'm a video quality asshole. Not completely like you see on some of the various A/V forums, but still. I have a Blu-Ray player and an HDTV, and dammit black bars suck. Also Pikmin, Pikmin 2, (which I have both of :bouncy:), and Mario Power Tennis all are ridiculous on eBay. Pikmin 2 has 480p, but no widescreen. And it still looks much better than some Wii games. :roll:

I've been through this before. If not here, in other threads. Nintendo is the only company I know that takes out functionality from their games that should be left in. (see: no GC banners on Wii, no bongo support[read:not requirement, support] for DK Bongo Blast and probably DK Jungle Beat, no GC controller support in Twilight Princess or Super Paper Mario, which were both GC games until the last fuckin' minute)

Needless to say I'm pissed off at Nintendo for a while now. The difference between me and all the other internet tough guys complaining about Nintendo is I don't have a seventh gen console to fall back on. My DS has been broken for 2 years, 360 is expensive when you don't have a job, and PS3 is a no-go, despite it being the obvious blu-ray player of choice. PSP is definitely not gonna happen for now because I'd be emulating more than playing PSP.

The Crotch
12-10-2008, 10:17 PM
Well... it's your money, I guess. Me, I'd rather get food that doesn't suck for a change than a visual upgrade of a GC game.

Doomed
12-10-2008, 10:35 PM
Well... it's your money, I guess. Me, I'd rather get food that doesn't suck for a change than a visual upgrade of a GC game.
I'm not buying it. It was a maybe at the assumed price point of $30 with GC, widescreen, and 480p support. Now, just like everything Nintendo has got its hands on since... 2006? it sucks.

wii skiier
12-11-2008, 12:38 PM
Mario Tennis - Full motion support ala Wii Sports - "You can now swing the Wiimote like a tennis racket to control your swings, performing forehands, backhands, tosses and smashes by swinging the Wiimote as you would a normal racket. For spin shots, you simply change the angle of the Wiimote when swinging. To perform special shots, you press buttons during the swing. Mario Power Tennis will support play both through the Wiimote on its own and through a Wiimote/Nunchuck combo, the latter presumably allowing you to control your characters on the court."
This will sell so well. Honestly, as long as it controls at least as well as Wii Sports I see no reason why you wouldn't want it even if you had the GC version.

Um. If you wanted GC controller support, wouldn't you just buy the GC version? Do people want 480p/16:9 Pikmin that badly?
I don't want GC controller support, but I do want 480p/16:9.

I hate the GC controller. I never had a GC, but when I got a Wii I grabbed a Wavebird and a ton of GC games. I think I played Pikmin, Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime before deciding I never wanted to hold that controller again so the rest of the games have just been collecting dust. I do still want to play them though, so I'm really excited about this line of games.

No black bars + not having to use that controller = self-pleasure

lilboo
12-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Have they announced pricing for this?
That is the deal breaker for these "PLAY ON Wii" games...

Metroid 1 & 2 have me intrigued, and so does Pikmin..but..at $50 they can finger my ass after I eat McDonalds. [-(

dmunkee
12-11-2008, 02:47 PM
...they can finger my ass after I eat McDonalds. [-(

Dude, I just got finished eating a McMuffin.

Anyway, I can't believe that Nintendo would take out the GC functionality of the play on Wii titles. Considering the whole point is that they were Gamecube titles in the first place. And yes, I know that would bring up the various GC games that were instead made Wii games (TP,SPM,etc.) agrument.

As I see it, they're just touting the new features of these re-releases. Since hammering the point that they indeed are Gamecube games might drive off a number of uninformed customers, and lose potential sales of the play on Wii games. They want people to know right off the bat that their Wii remotes (which you get right out of the box) will work right away, and they won't even need to worry about potentially buying a Gamecube controller, which can be hard to find sometimes.

I'm still looking forward to these remakes, as I've never played a majority of these games. My only concern at this point is price. But you know what? Nintendo knows me. I'll probably buy anyway :cry:

The Crotch
12-11-2008, 04:51 PM
I'm still expecting $30. Anything lower than that would be awesome, and anything higher than that would be a no-go for me. Except maybe for the Metroids.

PR Mega X
12-11-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm still expecting $30. Anything lower than that would be awesome, and anything higher than that would be a no-go for me. Except maybe for the Metroids.

$30 would be a sweet spot. I never did finish the second Metroid, and I know if I tried to pick it up where I left off I'd be completely fucking lost. So, if I'm going to start over, might as well do it with Wii controls.

js1
12-11-2008, 11:35 PM
I'm still expecting $30. Anything lower than that would be awesome, and anything higher than that would be a no-go for me. Except maybe for the Metroids.

Same here. I loves me some Metroid!

bmulligan
12-13-2008, 11:39 AM
Keep hoping for a $30 sweet spot, but it ain't happening. My guess is retail at $39.99 or I'll eat a shit sandwich. How much were those NES re-issues for the GBA again? And since you dupes are still forking over $8 for virtual SNES games, they're going to rape you bitches for as much as your minimum wage jobs can produce.

And why the hell is this taking so long to produce? You'd think that after 2 years they could have shoveled these out the door already, especially this month of crap and void before this Christmas.

Chacrana
12-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Hrmm... man, I dunno... I definitely want the Metroid Prime games in 480p and with widescreen, because I absolutely love those games and would gladly shell out $50 for them again, but if they take out the Gamecube controls... shit, I'm not sure anymore. I mean, yeah, Wii-mote worked for Prime 3, but that's because you needed to aim a lot in that game, since the enemies were flying all over the place, so lock-on alone wasn't enough. But that's not the case in the first two games. Wii controls would just feel unnecessary, IMO, and almost kind of obnoxious.

Well, we'll see. But hopefully they'll release Prime 1 sometime soon, since I've been itching to play through that game again. Easily one of my all time faves.

lilboo
12-13-2008, 12:33 PM
I wonder if they'll make a double pack? :drool:

Probably not, as that would be awesome. I would get a Metroid double pack for $50.

FallMoon
12-13-2008, 03:20 PM
I wonder if they'll make a double pack? :drool:

Probably not, as that would be awesome. I would get a Metroid double pack for $50.


Metroid double pack, Pikmin double back, Zelda double back, Donkey Kong double pack? They would look so tempting wrapped together ina bundle! They should release those with stuffed animals and other merchandise!

MightySlacker
12-19-2008, 11:51 PM
In good news, Amazon has pre-orders for Pikmin and Tennis up for 29.99 YAY.

Can't wait for Metroids

Dave

Kaijufan
12-20-2008, 01:53 AM
I'm glad to see Nintendo went with the $30 price point instead of $40 or $50.

The Crotch
12-20-2008, 02:29 AM
Acceptable.

UncleBob
12-20-2008, 02:35 AM
In good news, Amazon has pre-orders for Pikmin and Tennis up for 29.99 YAY.

Keep hoping for a $30 sweet spot, but it ain't happening. My guess is retail at $39.99 or I'll eat a shit sandwich.

Too soon for "Pics or it didn't happen?"

KingBroly
12-20-2008, 05:22 AM
You could play the GC Metroid Prime games on Wii in 480p. Every Nintendo GC game supported 480p. You could sort of play it in 16:9 as well with some stretching capabilities the game has.

But I really want to play them with the Wii controls of MP3. The controls for it are awesome.

pochaccoheaven
12-20-2008, 09:09 AM
The only games that I am not sure are GREAT out of all of those are Metroid Prime 2, DK Jungle Beat, and Mario Power Tennis. That's because I haven't played them.

this is what they were trying to do. though those games were out for the gamecube, not everyone played them. so they bought them back to wii with the new audiences to experience the gameplay along with the new mechanics of the wii to play the game.

this will also allow other nintendo development teams to focus on other future software. so it's a good thing for both nintendo and the customers. it will also be cheaper.

Doomed
12-20-2008, 11:59 AM
You could play the GC Metroid Prime games on Wii in 480p. Every Nintendo GC game supported 480p. You could sort of play it in 16:9 as well with some stretching capabilities the game has.

What stretching capabilities? If it's by stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9, fuck that.

Like already said a bunch of times, my issue isn't rereleasing games. Nintendo's been doing that since Super Mario All-Stars. It's them being assholes and not allowing support for the GameCube controller. It was in there from the start and they take it out like they did with the EarthBound demo in Brawl.

M-PG71C
12-20-2008, 02:02 PM
$30? Acceptable. As long as they come with 480p and 16:9, and the controls don't suck, I'll be buying. Besides, I never did play Pikmin or its sequel and the same goes with Mario Tennis so they will be new games for me.

Doomed
12-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Pikmin and especially Pikmin 2 are some of my favorite games.

M-PG71C
12-20-2008, 02:05 PM
Fuck fuck fuck, it has that ugly-ass box-art. I hope it is like the Japanese where you can switch it inside-out and have the original box-art setup.

http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/230397b.jpg

http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/230396b.jpg

PR Mega X
12-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Fuck fuck fuck, it has that ugly-ass box-art. I hope it is like the Japanese where you can switch it inside-out and have the original box-art setup.


Ugh, that is atrocious. I'm sure the good people at The Cover Project (thecoverproject.net) will whip up something good as a replacement.

007
12-21-2008, 12:06 AM
I'd be appalled by the covers, but seriously... what were you guys expecting? This is like second generation Player's Choice, and you expected the covers to get *better*?

It's that whole 'copy of a copy' thing. Just gets worse, man.

lilboo
12-21-2008, 12:11 AM
$30 is a good start. Amazon is usually the best place to get first party Nintendo games on sale.. so I'd imagine we would see these for around $20ish..and that's nice.

Let's hope the rest of them follow this pattern. The 2 Metroids at $20 each would make me happy.. right, Amazon? :D

Doomed
12-21-2008, 01:05 AM
Ugh, that is atrocious. I'm sure the good people at The Cover Project (http://thecoverproject.net) will whip up something good as a replacement.
<---Is a cover guru
8-)

I thought Nintendo couldn't fuck these rereleases up any further, and then I saw the covers. When was the last time Nintendo didn't fuck something up? I really want to know. Reminds me of Konami's best. I'd throw something together to express my anger, but my mouse is screwy and I'm tired. It would involve the use of that orange bar present on the Hotel Dusk reprint, the player's choice cover for Pikmin tilted slightly for extra rad, and at least three ESRB ratings. :lol:

BlueLobstah
12-21-2008, 01:24 AM
That's almost as bad as this:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4169/castoz1.png

Still, I'm happy they're at $30. I'll probably pick up both of these at some point, even though I already own Pikmin.

Kaijufan
12-21-2008, 02:20 AM
I wonder if these games are going to be worth 50 coins on Club Nintendo or just 30.

I had a lot of fun playing Wii Sports Tennis so I'll almost certainly pick up Mario Power Tennis (and I'm still waiting for a decent price on Mario Soccer and Mario Baseball).

As for Pikmin, I never played it on Gamecube even though my brother had it (and I'm sure he still has it somewhere) so I think I may have to pick it up and try it out, though I'm not big on time limits in games.

The Crotch
12-21-2008, 12:18 PM
Wow. So the need for replacement covers is confirmed, then.

soonersfan60
12-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Is Pikmin going to add anything at all? Secrets? Levels? Abilities? Or is it exactly the same game but with motion controls? It would still be fun, but it seems like they are tinkering with Tennis a bit (to make it like Wii Tennis), so I would hope to see some Pikmin love as well.

M-PG71C
12-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Well, we know for sure all of them are going to be widescreen and 480p, DKJB Wii had these features and it is expected both of the upcoming Pikmin games got that as well.

Which is a big enough reason for me to buy them again. Each one of them come with their own modifications of some sort, I'm not aware of what though.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/12/hands-on-donkey.html

soonersfan60
12-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Yeah, just trying to find out what mods there will be beyond widescreen.

M-PG71C
12-21-2008, 09:27 PM
For Pikmin, the only one we know about is that you can go back and play certain days again after they are recorded on some kind of journal. So the time restriction in beating the game has been given a little bit of a casual treatment. Which is fine for me. :P

We really won't know until it is released in Japan on the 25th and some import playtests come out.

lilboo
12-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Pikmin 2 is coming out for this too, right? :-s
It's Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Pikmin (and 2?), and Mario Tennis.. :roll:

I am looking forward to Metroid Prime 1 and 2 since I really enjoyed the control scheme of Corruption ... and never played those two. DKJB, where it's fun.. I don't think I could pay $30 for. It's def a game where it has to be on sale.

The Pikmin games, yeah. I never played the second one..I never beat the first one. I don't know why. :-k

Mario Tennis I will not purchase at all. I don't care how cheap it gets. There is no excuse that they ported this. They gave us a new Strikers and Party and Baseball..but they are porting this?! That's really stupid. Really, really, stupid.

Like.. I would actually consider a "Mario Sports Package" where it was the Gamecube versions of Mario Baseball, Golf, and Tennis. See? That would be like "Ohh, that's a neat purchase!"

Even a Mario Party 4-7 (..or 1-7 if they wanted to be amazing..) with "New Play Control!"..but as a compilation.

Sigh.

M-PG71C
12-22-2008, 12:53 AM
@ lilboo

Yeah, Pikmin 2 is also coming out as well. I never did play either games and after seeing eBay prices, I prefer to continue buying imports. So the fact that they are coming to the Wii with 16:9 and 480p is more than enough reason for me to buy.

I'll also get Chibi Robo, Mario Tennis (yeah it is complete bullshit they won't release a new one but then again...maybe that means Camelot is making a new RPG instead so if they do that, they can keep their fucking Mario games :P), and both Metroid Primes.

DKJB is a maybe, I need to think that over a little more. I'm just glad they are all $30.

wii skiier
12-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Ooh, man those covers are wretched. Like bluelobstah, I was immediately reminded of the ugly Konami DS cover. I think these may actually be worse though.

How did I miss that Chibi Robo was part of this series? I will totally get that. I only ever played the DS version but always wanted to try the GC one.

Doomed
12-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Ooh, man those covers are wretched. Like bluelobstah, I was immediately reminded of the ugly Konami DS cover. I think these may actually be worse though.

How did I miss that Chibi Robo was part of this series? I will totally get that. I only ever played the DS version but always wanted to try the GC one.
I only rented it, but I wish I bought it. Worth $30 IMO, but it's kinda short.

lilboo
12-22-2008, 02:29 PM
The japanese covers are reversible, so, why wouldn't these be? :-k

xycury
12-22-2008, 03:26 PM
The japanese covers are reversible, so, why wouldn't these be? :-k

Because Japan rulz all, they have to have better stuff than us.

We're an afterthought.... like turning on the fan after smelling up the bathroom....

lilboo
12-22-2008, 04:32 PM
:lol:
But they never said we WEREN'T getting the reversible ones right?! So..there's still hope! :whee:

62t
12-22-2008, 04:33 PM
meh no bongo support means that i can skip it. Hope the other games allow you to use gamecube control.

lilboo
12-22-2008, 04:35 PM
meh no bongo support means that i can skip it. Hope the other games allow you to use gamecube control.

Nope. I am almost 100% certain that there will be no Gamecube support in any of these games. :cry:

Kind of silly..but..I guess I can understand why?*

*= Trying to reason with logic of a company that has not made sense in over 2 years.

QiG
12-24-2008, 07:48 AM
I already had Pikmin 2 but traded it away since I never played it and was willing to see how the Wii version was. I popped it in to test and played it for over 6 hours that day. I was disappointed to see that it ended up on eBay as soon as it arrived to the other trader, but fortune smiled on me as I found another copy of Pikmin 2 for $8 at a local Family Video store.

I also have a copy of Chibi Robo up for trade on goozex, but if anyone wants to work something out with me here I'd rather see it go to a fellow CAG.

Zing
12-24-2008, 09:38 AM
Pikmin was a fun game, but felt short to me. I don't think it was actually that short, so maybe that is a testament to how fun it was. I probably got 7 days of play out of it.

These remakes would have been a great way to introduce Club Nintendo. I had a bunch of DS/Wii games already registered, so I immediately have 1000 points to spend on... something. It's a shame GBA games don't give any point, because I have a ton of those registered as well.

UjnHunter
12-24-2008, 10:49 AM
Unfortunately I am one person who prefers Metroid with the Wavebird... I'm left handed and could never feel comfortable with MP3... It's too awkward pointing the Wiimote with my Right hand... and equally as awkward as Moving with my Right Thumb... I've been brainwashed by Moving in all FPS with my Left thumb... :(

bmulligan
12-24-2008, 11:41 AM
I'll be the #2 preferring Wavebird control of Metroid Prime. I just couldn't get into the WiiMote controls for Corruption and gave up after about 2 hours in.

wii skiier
12-24-2008, 12:17 PM
I'll be the #2 preferring Wavebird control of Metroid Prime. I just couldn't get into the WiiMote controls for Corruption and gave up after about 2 hours in.
Definitely not with you guys on this one. I am analog stick-deficient or something. The Wii is the first system I've been able to play any kind of shooting game on since Duck Hunt and Gangster Town. I am totally looking forward to MP 1 & 2 remakes because I loved the controls in 3.

SNAKE EYES EX
12-25-2008, 05:39 PM
I'll be the #2 preferring Wavebird control of Metroid Prime. I just couldn't get into the WiiMote controls for Corruption and gave up after about 2 hours in.

I'll be #3, and raise you both; I prefer playing any and every game with a Gamecube control whenever possible. I still haven't played a game I like Wii motion control with. I really though Animal Crossing would be that game since the game is about fishing, chopping trees, digging etc - but sadly that game is an epic fail for motion controls.

I'd likely pick up many of these re-releases if they are 480p/16:9. However, I find it unlikely Nintendo will add much more than gimmicky motion control and leave it at that.

Doomed
12-25-2008, 06:51 PM
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t292/revolutionika/19073_metroid_prime_trilogy-v2-orig.png
:drool:

Fake.

maigoyume
12-25-2008, 08:27 PM
I would KILL for that box set.

PR Mega X
12-26-2008, 11:10 AM
I would KILL for that box set.

Second.

lilboo
12-26-2008, 11:21 AM
That would be pretty amazing. I would settle for a Metroid 1 & 2 boxset though. :bouncy:

Zing
12-26-2008, 11:22 AM
Nah, it makes too much sense. It is Nintendo's policy to be almost perfect.

xycury
12-26-2008, 11:27 AM
I would KILL for that box set.

Second.

Alot of people would die if that boxset ever came out. but they would have to price it at like $90 or $100 to make it worth it.

Since I haven't played any Metroid, I'd definately hold out for that.

lilboo
12-26-2008, 11:30 AM
Ya know, if they DID make that Trilogy and charged like..$100 (max) for it.. I think it would be ok considering they NEVER make these type of things.

I'm sure the complaints would be "OMG $100 FOR Wii GAYMEZ?!"..but yet, no one has problems when a $70/$75 special edition 360/PS3 game comes out..and it's only one game.

It'd be nice to have some kind of collector's edition. They did this..what..one time with The Legend of Zelda and it was a pack in with the Gamecubes..right? :-s

I guess Mario All Star + World could count for something.. ;)

xycury
12-26-2008, 12:10 PM
Ya know, if they DID make that Trilogy and charged like..$100 (max) for it.. I think it would be ok considering they NEVER make these type of things.

I'm sure the complaints would be "OMG $100 FOR Wii GAYMEZ?!"..but yet, no one has problems when a $70/$75 special edition 360/PS3 game comes out..and it's only one game.

It'd be nice to have some kind of collector's edition. They did this..what..one time with The Legend of Zelda and it was a pack in with the Gamecubes..right? :-s

I guess Mario All Star + World could count for something.. ;)

Yeah, I figured that Nintendo would totally mark up the price on it, but they won't even do it!... it'll be really lucky if they bundled 1 and 2 together.

:cry:

well if Nintendo would only put in a suggestion box that doesn't automatically go to the fire.... :hot:

KingBroly
12-26-2008, 12:13 PM
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t292/revolutionika/19073_metroid_prime_trilogy-v2-orig.png
:drool:
Fake.

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

...

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

I'd pay $100 for it, definitely. As long as the original 2 had 16:9 and Waggle support, and would it kill them to make Metroid Prime 2 easier?

lilboo
12-26-2008, 02:00 PM
Here's a theoretical question. I know some people are kinda ":wall" about the concept of playing these "updated ports" of Gamecube games that can ALREADY be played on the Wii..

However,
what if they did this for N64 games? :-k

Like.. Updating Mario 64 to SMG graphics & control. Making OoT with TP graphics & control.
Etc?

xycury
12-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Here's a theoretical question. I know some people are kinda ":wall" about the concept of playing these "updated ports" of Gamecube games that can ALREADY be played on the Wii..

However,
what if they did this for N64 games? :-k

Like.. Updating Mario 64 to SMG graphics & control. Making OoT with TP graphics & control.
Etc?

not worth the development time.

Like what is known only unknown to the "hardcore"....

graphics don't make a game, the gameplay does...

I say it wouldn't be a completely bad move but it would be like re-creating a game, all for prettier shinier things... not worth it.

I'd rather have a completely new story/sequel than to invest in that.

As for bringing Wii type controls to the GC games... they aren't improving graphics are they? just controls? right?

If they are upping the graphics besides 16:9... then I might see this as happening.


honestly that should have been a Collector's price set, that an updated SM64 gets new graphics but same game.

wii skiier
12-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Here's a theoretical question. I know some people are kinda ":wall" about the concept of playing these "updated ports" of Gamecube games that can ALREADY be played on the Wii..

However,
what if they did this for N64 games? :-k

Like.. Updating Mario 64 to SMG graphics & control. Making OoT with TP graphics & control.
Etc?
I agree with xycury - too much development work for too little turnaround. Consumers actually bought N64 games too, so you remove a subset of potential purchases because those people have played the games (and for a lot of N64 games probably remember how terrible they were). With the Gamecube, no one bought it and so many of these games will appear to be brand new to most consumers.

I know you feel like this is kind of a wasted opportunity. It is - for a gamer like you. But for the bulk of Wii-owners these games are essentially brand new and most of them are tied to things they are already familiar with thanks to the Wii. These Wii-owners probably have never put a GameCube game in their Wii. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I have a closet full of GC games that I have never played because I find the controller to be completely cumbersome and unmanageable. It's the anithesis of the Wii controller/concept, and for the "non-gamers" who make up most of the Wii userbase it would do little more than remind them why they never played video games before. The way Nintendo is doing this impresses me - as long as the marketing is done correctly they stand to make even more money.

Does anyone know how these have been selling in Japan? I don't think that will be a great predictor of US sales since Japan is much more game-friendly, but I'm curious.

Doomed
12-26-2008, 03:59 PM
http://www.vgboxart.com/viewfullbox.php?boxid=19073&boxloc=%2Fboxes%2FWii%2F19073_metroid_prime_trilog y-orig.png
(http://www.vgboxart.com/viewfullbox.php?boxid=19073&boxloc=%2Fboxes%2FWii%2F19073_metroid_prime_trilog y-orig.png)
It's 72dpi, (much lower resolution than The Cover Project's 300dpi covers) not formatted properly, and there's a ~3px border. :cry: If I were to clean this up a bit, (keep in mind once it's at 72dpi I probably can't make it higher res without recreating the entire thing or loosing clarity/increasing noise) how many would actually want to house the MP trilogy in there?

Here's a theoretical question. I know some people are kinda ":wall" about the concept of playing these "updated ports" of Gamecube games that can ALREADY be played on the Wii..

However,
what if they did this for N64 games? :-k

Like.. Updating Mario 64 to SMG graphics & control. Making OoT with TP graphics & control.
Etc?
Some very nice people have already sort of done this on PC. SM64 is done, OoT isn't AFAIK. I'd link directly but most places that have this have info how to do it, AKA insta-ban. No 16:9 upgrades AFAIK.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/suff3/bomb1.png
OoT:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/suff3/oot.jpg

I see very big money for me if I recreate that cover and buy Nintendo's rereleases and a 3 DVD case. :lol:

xycury
12-26-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www.vgboxart.com/viewfullbox.php?boxid=19073&boxloc=%2Fboxes%2FWii%2F19073_metroid_prime_trilog y-orig.png
(http://www.vgboxart.com/viewfullbox.php?boxid=19073&boxloc=%2Fboxes%2FWii%2F19073_metroid_prime_trilog y-orig.png)
It's 72dpi, (much lower resolution than The Cover Project's 300dpi covers) not formatted properly, and there's a ~3px border. :cry: If I were to clean this up a bit, (keep in mind once it's at 72dpi I probably can't make it higher res without recreating the entire thing or loosing clarity/increasing noise) how many would actually want to house the MP trilogy in there?

I see very big money for me if I recreate that cover and buy Nintendo's rereleases and a 3 DVD case. :lol:


I would.... maybe... You'd have to get a white case and a good printer and I would buy it :applause:

Really it would be funny to repackage one, you could easily sell it with the games for well more than what it costs and say that Nintendo released only a "few".... as a collector series.

ha.

Doomed
12-26-2008, 05:12 PM
Not terrible... still pretty bad. I wonder if wasa-bi will ever post the final cover.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/suff3/19073_metroid_prime_trilogy-orig_ve.png

QiG
12-26-2008, 07:47 PM
Not terrible... still pretty bad. I wonder if wasa-bi will ever post the final cover.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/dabob51/suff3/19073_metroid_prime_trilogy-orig_ve.png

That gorgeous cover just makes me sad that, we the fans who appreciate games beyond the glitz and glamor, have such a small share of the market now.

lilboo
12-26-2008, 08:40 PM
That gorgeous cover just makes me sad that, we the fans who appreciate games beyond the glitz and glamor, have such a small share of the market now.

No, we still are the majority. Nintendo realizes we will buy anything, so they don't aim it at us; they just target others.

:(

utopianmachine
12-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Looks like we've got a tentative release dates showing, as well as box art. All over that $29.99 price tag.

Pikmin
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73028

Zing
12-30-2008, 02:27 PM
Sweet jesus I just read the user comment at that link.

"i played pikmin when i was just 8 on the game cube and it was a great! the time leaght was preatty long [depends on much you play everyday] but there were also some sad parts."

First of all, how does the amount of time you spend each day playing affect the length of the game? So if you spend 8 hours a day for 3 days the game is shorter than if you spend 4 hours a day for 6 days?

I also don't recall any sad parts. Although, to an 8 year old, watching a pikmin get eaten by one of the big bugs as your spaceship launches may be sad.

Doomed
12-30-2008, 03:24 PM
I also don't recall any sad parts. Although, to an 8 year old, watching a pikmin get eaten by one of the big bugs as your spaceship launches may be sad.
That eight year old was a pussy. The only sad part of Pikmin is if you were so fucking stupid you got the bad ending, because that means all of your work was a waste. Pikmin 2 could be kinda scary though with all of the shit that pops out of the ground and falls from the sky. That and the Titan Dweebil.

<-was eight when I first played Pikmin 8-)

ChibiJosh
12-30-2008, 04:43 PM
Sweet jesus I just read the user comment at that link.

"i played pikmin when i was just 8 on the game cube and it was a great! the time leaght was preatty long [depends on much you play everyday] but there were also some sad parts."

First of all, how does the amount of time you spend each day playing affect the length of the game? So if you spend 8 hours a day for 3 days the game is shorter than if you spend 4 hours a day for 6 days?

I also don't recall any sad parts. Although, to an 8 year old, watching a pikmin get eaten by one of the big bugs as your spaceship launches may be sad.

The game is divided up into days, ya know? I imagine the kid was referring to the in-game days.

lilboo
12-30-2008, 05:23 PM
I really hope it's a reversible cover. :(

foltzie
12-30-2008, 06:14 PM
I really hope it's a reversible cover. :(

Silenced? What did liboo do?

Friend of Sonic
12-30-2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah, what the hell? Lilboo wouldn't say anything crazy to get himself silenced.

foltzie
12-30-2008, 06:19 PM
Silenced? What did liboo do?

His last blog post was certainly colorful.

hero101
12-30-2008, 06:26 PM
His last blog post was certainly colorful.
What the difference from silenced and temporary banned? I never been silenced before. :roll:

Persona7
12-30-2008, 07:08 PM
I would go for both Primes and Chibi Robo. That prime box set would be so awesome. :(

The perfect price for these would be $19.99.

Strell
12-30-2008, 08:19 PM
What the difference from silenced and temporary banned? I never been silenced before. :roll:

I know you can't post when silenced, but you can still log in.

I imagine with tempbans you can't log in.

utopianmachine
12-30-2008, 09:25 PM
I would go for both Primes and Chibi Robo. That prime box set would be so awesome. :(

The perfect price for these would be $19.99.

Chibi Robo was excellent, but I just really don't see how waggle can improve the game. It was such a busy little platformer, I just wouldn't want to take the time to waggle about for a bit to accomplish a simple objective.

Pikmin I can see benefiting from the Wii a little, but really, does pointer over analog stick add that great a difference? I guess it doesn't really matter...didn't someone say the games would come with both Wii and standard controller options? I hope so.

I think the $29.99 price is fair. $19.99 just seems too much like giving the game away. And while, indeed, these "new" games are not new games, odds are for a large percentage of Wii-adopters, it'll be their first time playing some of the released titles, especially Chibi-Robo and Pikmin, which are not generally popular fare, such as Mario and Zelda.

foltzie
12-30-2008, 11:13 PM
I know you can't post when silenced, but you can still log in.

I imagine with tempbans you can't log in.

Intriguing... Still curious as to what would have earned this particular time-out... Nothing stands out...

KingBroly
12-30-2008, 11:16 PM
I just wish they'd announce a date on MP1/2 Wiileases already.

bmulligan
12-31-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm waiting for the Rogue Squardon/Rebel Strike re-deux. I might actually buy this after I finish my shit sandwich.

Lone_Prodigy
12-31-2008, 02:49 PM
Man that box art is ugly. It's like the 360 platinum hits.

I'm waiting for the Rogue Squardon/Rebel Strike re-deux. I might actually buy this after I finish my shit sandwich.

They'll have to fix the Rebel Strike SP campaign first.

The Crotch
12-31-2008, 08:36 PM
Rogue Squadron/Rebel Strike? That sounds... I dunno, less-important. Not that I probably wouldn't bite, but they already did make a release with the two together. They called it Rebel Strike.

I'd still go for it again if they made Rebel Strike's better parts co-op.

Kaijufan
01-01-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm waiting for the Rogue Squardon/Rebel Strike re-deux. I might actually buy this after I finish my shit sandwich.
There's a rumor from EGM (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/08/rumor-rogue-squadron-compilation-locking-x-foils-in-attack-posi/)that all 3 Rogue Squadrons are being remade for the Wii.

The Crotch
01-01-2009, 01:53 AM
Hey, EGM rumours: Don't be wrong this time!

pete5883
01-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Wouldn't that require Factor 5 to still be in business?

The Crotch
01-01-2009, 06:43 PM
Thought they were in-business-but-weakened?

Lone_Prodigy
01-01-2009, 07:33 PM
Didn't Factor 5 make Lair? I suppose being associated with that game would make any dev want to disappear.

lilboo
01-01-2009, 07:36 PM
Silenced? What did liboo do?

Yeah, what the hell? Lilboo wouldn't say anything crazy to get himself silenced.

:rofl: I'm not allowed to discuss. Talking about your infractions is actually infractable :rofl:.. (well, to one mod)

Nice to be back :wave: 8-)

I think Pikmin is actually my next Wii purchase. :-? I don't know how I feel about that.

Kaijufan
01-01-2009, 08:48 PM
Wouldn't that require Factor 5 to still be in business?
The rumor says they licensed out the series to a different publisher (maybe they mean developer? Lucas Arts doesn't have any internal developers anymore).

foltzie
01-02-2009, 10:06 AM
:rofl: I'm not allowed to discuss. Talking about your infractions is actually infractable :rofl:.. (well, to one mod)

So can anyone else talk about it?

Doomed
01-02-2009, 02:38 PM
It's anyone's guess, but he was silenced shortly after writing a really gross blag post. But if it was that, then why is the post still there? :-k

lilboo
01-02-2009, 02:41 PM
It wasn't the blog, and ITS NOT GROSS! [-(

It was about a mod deleting a post I made, then bringing it back later to infract :)

KingBroly
01-02-2009, 02:47 PM
It wasn't the blog, and ITS NOT GROSS! [-(

It was about a mod deleting a post I made, then bringing it back later to infract :)

So you're discussing it now? Isn't that infractionable? :lol:

lilboo
01-02-2009, 02:49 PM
!!!!!
http://www.emoticons4u.com/sad/021.gif

I am so excited to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 with Metroid Prime 3: Corruption controls.

KingBroly
01-02-2009, 03:09 PM
!!!!!
http://www.emoticons4u.com/sad/021.gif

I am so excited to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 with Metroid Prime 3: Corruption controls.

You have no idea how excited I am. I'm ready to import a Japanese Wii and games for the right if they don't bring them out here.

Strell
01-02-2009, 03:09 PM
It was about a mod deleting a post I made, then bringing it back later to infract

Wow. Talk about abuse of power.

foltzie
01-02-2009, 05:10 PM
Wow. Talk about abuse of power.

I agree, removing bongos support from Jungle Beat is an abuse of power.

Strell
01-02-2009, 05:33 PM
That's lower on the totem pole than DK Jr Math is.

utopianmachine
01-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Mario Power Tennis now showing on Gamestop.com, too.

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/230397b.jpg

Also $29.99. Release date 3/9/09. Not a fan of these box arts.

wii skiier
01-02-2009, 07:53 PM
!!!!!
http://www.emoticons4u.com/sad/021.gif

I am so excited to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 with Metroid Prime 3: Corruption controls.
I can't tell you how excited I am for this. I am incapable of playing FPS with non-Wii controls.

And to stick with the double theme of "Wii-rereleases/lilboo infractions", if you can't talk about an infraction, how can others learn from your mistakes? Or even know what the rules are?

lilboo
01-02-2009, 07:55 PM
I can't tell you how excited I am for this. I am incapable of playing FPS with non-Wii controls.

And to stick with the double theme of "Wii-rereleases/lilboo infractions", if you can't talk about an infraction, how can others learn from your mistakes? Or even know what the rules are?

I know! I HEARRRT METROID.
There aren't set rules; just personal vendettas from certain people against certain people. That's pretty much it.

bmulligan
01-03-2009, 10:36 PM
I know! I HEARRRT METROID.
There aren't set rules; just personal vendettas from certain people against certain people. That's pretty much it.
Well, you know what they say:
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Now your playing with power AND Corruption !!

rlse9
01-03-2009, 11:16 PM
I think I'm going to buy Pikmin when it comes out. I own Pikmin 2 and enjoyed it but never picked up the first game. This seems like a game that could make good use of motion controls. I'd rather see Pikmin 3 come out but I think this will hold me over for a while.

I agree that the box art is kinda ugly but it definitely drives the point home that it's a remake of a Gamecube game with updated controls. And honestly, I don't really care, I'll open the game up and it'll go into a CD case with all of my other Wii games anyway and the case will get thrown in a box with the others.

Lone_Prodigy
01-04-2009, 04:37 AM
Well, you know what they say:
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Now your playing with power AND Corruption !!

It's late, but is this a reference to Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (since lilboo was talking about heart Metroid)? Or do I need to go to sleep and re-read this in the morning?

utopianmachine
01-04-2009, 08:20 PM
I'm trying to remember...but did they ever say that you could play these games with traditional controls as an option?

Strell
01-04-2009, 08:21 PM
I'm trying to remember...but did they ever say that you could play these games with traditional controls as an option?

Nope.

A dumb move, but oh well.

antlp89
01-04-2009, 08:36 PM
!!!!!
http://www.emoticons4u.com/sad/021.gif

I am so excited to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 with Metroid Prime 3: Corruption controls.

Me too! Especially the first Metroid prime. It's my favorite in the series and I have a feeling the waggle controls will make this game even better :D.

bmulligan
01-05-2009, 01:38 AM
I don't understand releasing Mario Tennis with Waggle at $30 when they could have made a new release at $50. They did it with Strikers and Baseball, why would Nintendo NOT take the money ? 3rd party re-releases make infinitely more sense than cockblocking your own IP's. And with that being said, I would love to see some of the 007 titles re-released with Waggle. It might make them worth playing.

Kaijufan
01-05-2009, 02:46 AM
I don't understand releasing Mario Tennis with Waggle at $30 when they could have made a new release at $50. They did it with Strikers and Baseball, why would Nintendo NOT take the money ? 3rd party re-releases make infinitely more sense than cockblocking your own IP's. And with that being said, I would love to see some of the 007 titles re-released with Waggle. It might make them worth playing.
Maybe Camelot is too busy to make a new version of Mario Tennis?

io
01-05-2009, 07:28 AM
There's a rumor from EGM (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/08/rumor-rogue-squadron-compilation-locking-x-foils-in-attack-posi/)that all 3 Rogue Squadrons are being remade for the Wii.

:drool:

My favorite non-RPG game of last gen was also one of the first console games I had played since the NES - Rogue Squadron 2... When I was a kid playing my crappy-ass Atari I dreamed of a game like that, and then, boom, fast forward 20-some years and there it was ;).

As for the rest of these Wiimakes, meh, not too excited. I have all the originals anyway. I find it a very odd approach, but I guess it will make money which Nintendo has become very good at recently. I really thought they'd push the GC compatibility and republish the original games maybe with packed-in memory cards and controllers for Nintendo newbies. But while the Wii has awesome BC (unlike the other 2 companies) they act like it doesn't exist. Very odd...

When I was in GS talking to a store manager about them phasing out the Xbox games (they will stop taking trades for them Feb 9th) I asked specifically about GC games and he said they still sell very well to people who are new to the Wii. So there you go...

(Io exits, ignoring all the mod-bashing 8-) - though I will say I don't think boo's infraction had anything to do with a personal vendetta - that's taking it a bit too far)

Doomed
01-05-2009, 07:42 AM
I would love to see some of the 007 titles re-released with Waggle. It might make them worth playing.
007 Nightfire is one of the best console FPS there was last generation. 007 Everything or Nothing, however, is one of the worst games I played last gen.

pete5883
01-05-2009, 09:36 AM
I don't understand releasing Mario Tennis with Waggle at $30 when they could have made a new release at $50. They did it with Strikers and Baseball, why would Nintendo NOT take the money ?
Do you not realize that developing a new game costs money? They could spend a couple mil and sell for $50 apiece, or they could just get $30 apiece for free.

soonersfan60
01-05-2009, 10:55 AM
How well did Wii baseball sell compared to the GC one? (same for soccer)

That might indicate why they're trying this route.

wii skiier
01-05-2009, 12:21 PM
Do you not realize that developing a new game costs money? They could spend a couple mil and sell for $50 apiece, or they could just get $30 apiece for free.
Yup. Not quite this simplified, but you have the basic idea.

Lone_Prodigy
01-05-2009, 03:27 PM
007 Nightfire is one of the best console FPS there was last generation. 007 Everything or Nothing, however, is one of the worst games I played last gen.

Really, reviews for EoN are higher than for Nightfire. Then again, EoN is a third-person game while Nightfire is an FPS. To each their own.

rlse9
01-05-2009, 05:33 PM
Do you not realize that developing a new game costs money? They could spend a couple mil and sell for $50 apiece, or they could just get $30 apiece for free.

That is true, but would it have really cost them much money? Nintendo doesn't seem to have much of a problem releasing very slightly enhanced versions of their non-main franchises. They had no problem releasing a new Animal Crossing that's 95% rehash with minimal upgrades and charging full price for it. Would it have cost them much money to add in a few new characters, courts, and other minor upgrades and charge full price? Maybe it would, but it seems like they could have given the game minor upgrades, charged full price and made more money.

Dr Mario Kart
01-05-2009, 11:28 PM
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5205/screenshot01132001ag3.jpg

I sees a Chibi Robo ^_^

lilboo
01-05-2009, 11:31 PM
I still get annoyed to see Mario Tennis on that list. I will agree with them all. ALL. Just not Mario Tennis. :wall:

God, I want Luigi's Mansion. I've said this from the beginning they should make some GCN games w/ Wii Controls.. because Luigi's Mansion would play so much better.

bmulligan
01-06-2009, 12:24 AM
I still God, I want Luigi's Mansion. I've said this from the beginning they should make some GCN games w/ Wii Controls.. because Luigi's Mansion would play so much better.

I gotta agree. Waggle might make this game worth playing. I don't know that I'd be willing to shell out 30 bones for it, though.

dmunkee
01-06-2009, 12:55 AM
I still get annoyed to see Mario Tennis on that list. I will agree with them all. ALL. Just not Mario Tennis. :wall:


I'm inclined to agree, but that's just easy, easy money for Nintendo. And it'll probably be the best seller out of the lot, considering the Mario name recognition along with tennis and waggle.

dchrisd
01-06-2009, 01:11 AM
007 Nightfire is one of the best console FPS there was last generation. 007 Everything or Nothing, however, is one of the worst games I played last gen.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there are some games that are just undeniably good. 007 Everything or Nothing is one of them. I have no idea how you can think it's one of the worst games you played. Truly, the thought baffles me.

mykevermin
01-06-2009, 01:19 AM
No Mario Golf?

Fuck you on a pole.

Dr Mario Kart
01-06-2009, 01:24 AM
I dont think Nintendo has developed a golf game since the NES. The N64, GC, GBA, GBC versions of Mario Golf as well as We Love Golf for the Wii are all Camelot. They are also being credited for the retooling for Mario Tennis for Wii. Maybe afterwards they can do golf.

SuxoR
01-06-2009, 03:14 AM
Do these count as GC games sold or Wii?

Kaijufan
01-06-2009, 03:20 AM
I still get annoyed to see Mario Tennis on that list. I will agree with them all. ALL. Just not Mario Tennis. :wall:

God, I want Luigi's Mansion. I've said this from the beginning they should make some GCN games w/ Wii Controls.. because Luigi's Mansion would play so much better.

No Mario Golf?

Fuck you on a pole.
I agree with Luigi's Mansion. Hopefully it will be in a second wave of titles if these sell well (and I'm betting they will).

I would imagine that the reason Tennis is one of these games and not Mario Golf is because they're going to eventually release a full sequel to Mario Golf with all new courses.

mykevermin
01-06-2009, 08:26 AM
I dont think Nintendo has developed a golf game since the NES. The N64, GC, GBA, GBC versions of Mario Golf as well as We Love Golf for the Wii are all Camelot. They are also being credited for the retooling for Mario Tennis for Wii. Maybe afterwards they can do golf.

Right. Nintendo also spent so much first party time developing the Metroid Prime series that it's no surprise they're being included here as well. Retro who?

What's your point?

bmulligan
01-06-2009, 01:21 PM
I dont think Nintendo has developed a golf game since the NES. The N64, GC, GBA, GBC versions of Mario Golf as well as We Love Golf for the Wii are all Camelot. They are also being credited for the retooling for Mario Tennis for Wii. Maybe afterwards they can do golf.

Something tells me they're also waiting for Wii Motion Plus to make a proper golf game.

mykevermin
01-06-2009, 01:35 PM
As long as they do. I'm desperate for a solid golf game on the damned system.

Droogs
01-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Something tells me they're also waiting for Wii Motion Plus to make a proper golf game.

Ha, I had completely forgotten about that add on. Shows how much it means to me.

crunchewy
01-06-2009, 03:02 PM
I don't understand the Jungle Beat one at all. Didn't they learn their lesson from the other bongos-to-wii conversion game they already made that I won't mention? Who would prefer the Wii Remote version over the original version played with an actual Bongo controller (which are a dime a dozen, as is the game for that matter), on a Wii? Does this make sense to anyone? Probably I'm rehashing here, but I had to say it anyway. Most of the games I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but wait for others to buy them and tell me if they are worth it, versus getting the originals.

bmulligan
01-06-2009, 04:08 PM
I don't understand the Jungle Beat one at all. Didn't they learn their lesson from the other bongos-to-wii conversion game they already made that I won't mention? Who would prefer the Wii Remote version over the original version played with an actual Bongo controller (which are a dime a dozen, as is the game for that matter), on a Wii? Does this make sense to anyone? Probably I'm rehashing here, but I had to say it anyway. Most of the games I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but wait for others to buy them and tell me if they are worth it, versus getting the originals.

This is a prime example of reverse re-issue. If they had made DK Barrel Blast with GC Bongo support, I would have bought it. I still would.

soonersfan60
01-06-2009, 04:19 PM
The problem is then they would have to put some bongos back in the retail pipeline. I know you'll say go to Gamestop, but most people will expect them new at retail. Look at the clamor for regular controllers.

Doomed
01-06-2009, 04:34 PM
The problem is then they would have to put some bongos back in the retail pipeline. I know you'll say go to Gamestop, but most people will expect them new at retail. Look at the clamor for regular controllers.
No, it's not. Nintendo is fucking lazy and with each passing day I get more pissed that I bought a Wii.

All of these games, excluding JB, should have the option to use the GC controller. Super Paper Mario and The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess should support the GC controller. I don't know about any other first party projects that got ported to Wii, but if there are, those should support GC too. All of the mentioned games were written for the GameCube controller. The code was written. I'd imagine it would be trivial for Nintendo to add GC controller support into the Wii releases, since Wii is a pumped up GC. The Wii menu should support GC controllers.

Notice I said the option. Let people use Nintendo's shitty Wii controls. But also let them use bongos and GC controllers. Hell, they might not even have to say it on the box. A note somewhere in the game or manual would suffice.

soonersfan60
01-06-2009, 05:02 PM
I can agree with you on the standard controller, but I still agree with Nintendo on the bongo support (as much as I would have liked it, too).

rlse9
01-06-2009, 05:11 PM
As long as they do. I'm desperate for a solid golf game on the damned system.

I haven't played it, but isn't this year's Tiger Woods supposed to be really good. I remember reading a lot of positive reviews for it. I thought about picking it up but it seems like next year's is bound to be another major step up with Wii Motion Plus support.

wii skiier
01-06-2009, 05:51 PM
I haven't played it, but isn't this year's Tiger Woods supposed to be really good. I remember reading a lot of positive reviews for it. I thought about picking it up but it seems like next year's is bound to be another major step up with Wii Motion Plus support.
Tiger Woods 2009 is good. Really good. It's not perfect yet, but definitely the best of them all by far. I don't think Motion Plus will really change things that much, and would probably make a golf game nearly impossible to play. As it is, the game only needs to measure speed/power. With Motion Plus, you would need to also then have a straight swing. This would be fine, except you are swinging a semi-physical object in real space at a virtual object in digital space. I don't know, it just seems like a pain to me.

This may have been mentioned many times over, but I just saw the first two titles on Gamestop's site for 3/9 release at $29.99. The cover art is not growing on me still.

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/230396b.jpg
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73028

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/230397b.jpg
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73029

bmulligan
01-07-2009, 07:36 AM
Tiger Woods 2009 is good. Really good. It's not perfect yet, but definitely the best of them all by far. I don't think Motion Plus will really change things that much, and would probably make a golf game nearly impossible to play. As it is, the game only needs to measure speed/power. With Motion Plus, you would need to also then have a straight swing. This would be fine, except you are swinging a semi-physical object in real space at a virtual object in digital space. I don't know, it just seems like a pain to me.


I can't tell you how much I disagree with you. Wii golf and every tiger woods game (I have not played 09 yet) is virtually unplayable due to the inaccuracy of the wii mote for putting. If Wii Motion Plus can more accurately gauge minute position changes, it may finally be possible to enjoy a Wii golf game.

lilboo
01-07-2009, 08:14 AM
I can't tell you how much I disagree with you. Wii golf and every tiger woods game (I have not played 09 yet) is virtually unplayable due to the inaccuracy of the wii mote for putting. If Wii Motion Plus can more accurately gauge minute position changes, it may finally be possible to enjoy a Wii golf game.

Fixed :)
No no, I'm not trolling.. but I think the problem with a lot of Wii games is the same as the "golf" reasoning. The controls just don't work. :(

Monsta Mack
01-07-2009, 09:22 AM
So who is gonna be the bait and buy Metroid Prime 1 or 2 with waggle? I got MP3 as a gift which sits collecting dust only because I haven't gotten around to beating the first two - which I may do if the Wii controls simplifies things a lot more but I'm still unsure at the $30 price tag, these things should be $20 or less.

Didn't MP3 deliver massive pwnage with It's controls?