GGT 92: Nintendo doesn't care about you!

[Kendal]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Kenny_Blankenship/Reggie.jpg

Reports say Nintendo doesn't care about gamers, is making record profits off of baby seal eyes and monkey paw ash trays. Is there no limit to the evil that is Nintendo?

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Oh fuck me, let's get to page 2 so I don't have to look at that pic.

South Park is great tonight.

[Nelo Ice]

so no more heroes 2

[Azumangaman]

Nice title.
So, anybody want to take some time and help me out with my 360 NAT type. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

[Kendal]

Nice title.
So, anybody want to take some time and help me out with my 360 NAT type. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

I wish I could, but I don't speak Canadian. Actually, mine has always been NAT 2 and never had problems with it. I am not even sure what that means or what it does. Is it wired or wireless?

[blueshinra]

Is there no limit to the evil that is Nintendo?
Not as long as this guy exists:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/BruK_Smash/tom_nook.gif

Most evil. Character. Ever.

[distgfx]

The title is so true, I love you Kendal.

[Foo228]

PS3 gameshare! somebody! please!

[Azumangaman]

I wish I could, but I don't speak Canadian. Actually, mine has always been NAT 2 and never had problems with it. I am not even sure what that means or what it does. Is it wired or wireless?
Thanks. NAT1/NAT2/NAT3 is for the PS3. Open/Moderate/Strict is for 360. I have STRICT :( :(
I don't get it, I'm pretty sure I forwarded all the ports and everything. Maybe I'm doing it in the wrong spot.
I'll be eternally grateful if anybody can help me.
I'll send screen caps and everything so you can help me.

[Jest]

Hes such a beautiful man. Why don't you love him Jesus?

[Jest]

Azu- go into your router settings and put the PS3 in demilitarized zone. That might help. Its not like anyone is going to connect to your PS3 directly from the internet and steal your game saves.

[Kendal]

Thanks. NAT1/NAT2/NAT3 is for the PS3. Open/Moderate/Strict is for 360. I have STRICT :( :(
I don't get it, I'm pretty sure I forwarded all the ports and everything. Maybe I'm doing it in the wrong spot.
I'll be eternally grateful if anybody can help me.
I'll send screen caps and everything so you can help me.

I opened Port 88 for Live and everything has been bad ass.

[gunm]

But, but...Nintendo is making a Club store for North America!

And they are giving us Animal Crossing!

If that shit ain't hardcore, I dunno wut iz. :cool:

[Foo228]

http://kotaku.com/5060861/tgs-opening-keynote-liveblog-square-enix

^square enix live blog from tgs (happening now) for you crazies

[Azumangaman]

Azu- go into your router settings and put the PS3 in demilitarized zone. That might help. Its not like anyone is going to connect to your PS3 directly from the internet and steal your game saves.
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I have no idea what the fuck demililtarized zone means. BUT it sounds like your smart :) Want to explain in the most simple terms possible.
I rock a LinksysWRT110 by the way.
EDIT: While I need help for DAT P S TRIPLE, I really need 360 help too :) I phail

[DarthPuma]

KoF is crazy fun even though I don't know how to play right.

[distgfx]

DMZ
Any PC whose port is being forwarded must have its DHCP
client function disabled and should have a new static IP
address assigned to it because its IP address may change
when using the DHCP function.

Enabled/Disabled
To disable DMZ hosting, select
Disabled

. To expose one PC, select Enabled. Then
configure the following settings:
Source IP Address

If you want any IP address to be the
source, select

Any IP Address. If you want to specify an IP
address or range of IP addresses as the designated source,
select and complete the IP address range fields.
Destination

If you want to specify the DMZ host by IP
address, select

IP Address and enter the IP address in
the field provided. If you want to specify the DMZ host
by MAC address, select

MAC Address and enter the MAC
address in the field provided. To retrieve this information,
click DHCP Client Table.



Yarr, that should help your PS3 or 360 depending on who you decide to set it up for. I know the ports you needed to open for the PS3 are on sony's site.

EDIT: I just realized you may not know how to access your router. Type in 192.168.1.1 into your browser and then enter your username and pass if it requires one.

[Foo228]

Can I send out a gc memory card for just 42cents? (reg. rate)

[gunm]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/b/f/abf93036dbcc3462f92c0f1162b39c08.jpg

[Chacrana]

ooh, Squeenix liveblog? Good thing I took a Witcher break right now.

[gunm]

http://kotaku.com/5060861/tgs-opening-keynote-liveblog-square-enix

^square enix live blog from tgs (happening now) for you crazies


"Economy sucks, but we still gotta pay dese bills.

We need you barbarian gaijin to buy our shit! Please!"

Corporate blah blah blah...Zzzzwake me when the gamez comez outzzzz...

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Man, today was a pretty nice day. Aced my Principle of Government exam, my English teacher pushed back the deadline for our essays by a week, got 1000 dreamcar challenge MSPoints, got a LBP Beta Code, my ID card came in the mail, came into some cashmoney, and South Park was hilarious.

[Azumangaman]

I tried to disable UPnP from my router, because I heard it was evilz!
When I disabled it, my internets died.
Also, would a Wireless MAC Filter affect this? Because I don't have one up.

[DarthPuma]

My thumb is raw as hell from this stupid d pad. I gotta get a stick before I blister lol.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

What choo playin Puma?

[DarthPuma]

King of Fighter's XI. Every fucking attack has a quarter or half circle. It's brutal lol.

Should I wait till I buy a stick to get Street Fighter Anniversary? I really need to save cash but it's only 16 bucks.....

[distgfx]

King of Fighter's XI. Every fucking attack has a quarter or half circle. It's brutal lol.

Should I wait till I buy a stick to get Street Fighter Anniversary? I really need to save cash but it's only 16 bucks.....

You'll get used to it and your D-Pad will smooth out.

[DarthPuma]

I love it when I accidently super cancel and I'm all "badass!"

[Nelo Ice]

http://mt14.quickshareit.com/share/bkloadscreenhumore6789.png

[JEKKI]

my mum was suppose to come home today coz she had surgery yesterday, but she's in a lot of pain so she's staying another night

:cry:

home alone for another night... I'ma bust out the SNES9X and play sum Home Alone tonite

and maybe Yakuza 2 too!! gotta save Silent Hill for the weekend!

[daroga]

LBP Undo = :bomb:

[Ahadi]

PS3 gameshare! somebody! please!

What are you looking to gameshare?

Totally messed with some people on a round of the building. They were being loud, so we knocked and told them that we received an anonymous tip that they had cocaine and alcohol. They shit kittens! Had to have been there and what not... :lol:

[daroga]

Ah, the LBP undo has to do with the server issues they're having I guess. I don't know why that makes any sense, but that's what's up. Neat!

[Nelo Ice]

so star ocean 4 comes out march 3rd for NA

[DarthPuma]

I guess I'll just list my zune on the fleabay tomorrow. What should I start out at?

[zewone]

No More Heroes 2. :drool:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41032.html

[corrosivefrost]

LBP beta ruined LBP for me. :\

[Nelo Ice]

oo
Major Nelson (Larry Hryb): Today we’re announcing Metal Slug 7 for Xbox Live Arcade, featuring new missions, new weapons, colossal new bosses, new game modes, and new Slugs to pilot. 8:27
Major Nelson (Larry Hryb): Another SNK PLAYMORE title, The King of Fighters ’98 Ultimate Match, is also coming to Xbox Live Arcade with new characters and game modes. Battle your favorite King of Fighters characters to determine the ultimate champion. The Kingdom of Fighters Ultimate Match will launch in Spring 2009.

[Ahadi]

LBP beta ruined LBP for me. :\

I managed to get a code. I hope it works... but I also hope that it doesn't ruin the game for me. I've got some high hopes for a really neat game experience. Like, something I have never seen/done in a game before.

[SL4IN]

I'd rather stick with the DS version of Metal Slug 7.

[zewone]

Of course.

[Chacrana]

I'd rather stick with the DS version of Metal Slug 7.

I wouldn't. I don't like the 360, but I can hardly turn down a console version of a game.

[Nelo Ice]

finally a release date for the new dashboard
nov 19th

[Chacrana]

No More Heroes 2. :drool:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41032.html

Hi i want this.

[SL4IN]

I wouldn't. I don't like the 360, but I can hardly turn down a console version of a game.

The game's been built from the ground up for the DS. It looks and runs flawlessly with absolutely no slowdown. It's absolutely amazing on the DS. Why wait and get it on XBLA when we've already had Metal Slug 3 ported to it, with terrible slowdown, to the point it makes some areas in the game almost unplayable? For what? The sake of achievements?

[Chacrana]

The game's been built from the ground up for the DS. It looks and runs flawlessly with absolutely no slowdown. It's absolutely amazing on the DS. Why wait and get it on XBLA when we've already had Metal Slug 3 ported to it, with terrible slowdown, to the point it makes some areas in the game almost unplayable? For what? The sake of achievements?

For the reason that they're planning to add stuff to it? And that a TV and real controller is inherently a better way to play a Metal Slug game?

[RelentlessRolento]

oh shit!!!! good day!

No More Heroes 2 and Tekken 6 news! I have no words to state my happiness...

[SL4IN]

For the reason that they're planning to add stuff to it? And that a TV and real controller is inherently a better way to play a Metal Slug game?

What did they add to MS3 on the arcade? I fail to see why playing it on the DS is bad, the game has no control issues, or let alone issues of anything else. I'd rather play the game with a D-pad, which the DS's is infinitely better than the 360's.

[Chacrana]

I was talking about MS7 getting new stuff. I don't care about how badly they fucked up Metal Slug 3, but to get the facts straight, the original arcade version of MS3 had mad slowdown from time to time, too.

and I just don't like the crappy screen on the DS, and would much rather play with an arcade stick or something, though that second thing is subjective.

[dmaul1114]

Finished Braid. Well made game, but not really my cup of tea. Many of the puzzles were obtuse and I'd wouldn't have figured them out without looking up the solution online. Great art design and music. Story could have been less abstract as well. I'd probably give it an 8.0/10.

[SL4IN]

I was talking about MS7 getting new stuff. I don't care about how badly they fucked up Metal Slug 3, but to get the facts straight, the original arcade version of MS3 had mad slowdown from time to time, too.

and I just don't like the crappy screen on the DS, and would much rather play with an arcade stick or something, though that second thing is subjective.

From how the announcement sounded, it seemed like it's just going to be a straight port. And while yes, MS3 is prone to slowdown, I don't remember anything from the arcade being as bad as the 360's.

[Chacrana]

Major Nelson (Larry Hryb): Today we’re announcing Metal Slug 7 for Xbox Live Arcade, featuring new missions, new weapons, colossal new bosses, new game modes, and new Slugs to pilot. 8:27
Major Nelson (Larry Hryb):Another SNK PLAYMORE title, The King of Fighters ’98 Ultimate Match, is also coming to Xbox Live Arcade with new characters and game modes. Battle your favorite King of Fighters characters to determine the ultimate champion. The Kingdom of Fighters Ultimate Match will launch in Spring 2009.

I'm pretty sure that new stuff is supposed to be stuff that wasn't in the original version.

[zewone]

Tekken 6 for the 360!

[RelentlessRolento]

Again, Suda 51 gives me a reason to like my Wii some more... god I love that game... so good... so good... so good... fuck it... i want to play it again now >_<

if you play T6 on 360, get an arcade stick or a better d-pad. without one you can't have a full valid opinion on the game.

[ninja dog]

And it's over. All the Japanese attendees rush out to look up Halo on Wikipedia.

:lol:

[zewone]

I'm hoping NMH2 is multi-platform.

NMH in HD. :drool:

[SL4IN]

I'm pretty sure that new stuff is supposed to be stuff that wasn't in the original version.

Guess we'll just have to sit it out and see what happens with both versions.

[Chacrana]

ZOMG 99 Nights 2!!

That game was so unbelievably shitty. I can't even believe they finished making it - surely they realized long before finishing the game that it was more or less fecal material.

[Chacrana]

I'm hoping NMH2 is multi-platform.

NMH in HD. :drool:

That's what I'd want more than anything. NMH was just so ugly at times. I really, really liked the game, but it wouldn't hurt if it was pretty this time.

[gunm]

No More Heroes was an awesome graphic novel packaged in a terrible Wii game. I hope the sequel can correct some of the issues I had with the game--maybe Grasshopper should just ditch the whole fake open world/GTA BS and the pointless minigames altogether and concentrate on improving the overall "level" designs and game structure. I also hope they are able to use the Wiimotion add-on.

[RelentlessRolento]

I liked the shittyness of NMH graphics, but I do see how it can improve.

it can come out on any system. I'll get it. no questions asked. same thing applies to all Suda games.

if you don't like the combat in the original NMH, you need a reality check in the awesomeobile.

[ninja dog]

No More Heroes was an awesome graphic novel packaged in a terrible Wii game. I hope the sequel can correct some of the issues I had with the game--maybe Grasshopper should just ditch the whole fake open world/GTA BS and the pointless minigames altogether. I also hope they are able to use the Wiimotion add-on.


agreed. The open world/minigame stuff killed it completely for me. The framerate was particularly bad for a lo-fi wii game.

[zewone]

People that complain/ed about the open world portion of NMH makes me scratch my head.

It wasn't great, but it didn't take away from the game. It was just there.

[RelentlessRolento]

the city felt dead, if I wasn't killing thing's I wasn't as happy. good thing i love the game so much I don't care if I'm happy or not.

[corrosivefrost]

Finished Braid. Well made game, but not really my cup of tea. Many of the puzzles were obtuse and I'd wouldn't have figured them out without looking up the solution online. Great art design and music. Story could have been less abstract as well. I'd probably give it an 8.0/10.

obtuse is (a) great (word). braid was not (for me).

[Chacrana]

Just got to Chapter 5 of the Witcher, so I've just got that and the Epilogue to play through, and then I'm done. It's cool how it's becoming more and more apparent how the choices I made have changed what's goin' on. Like, you start to be like "oh shit, did I make the right choice here?" It's pretty kewl.

[RelentlessRolento]

hard to see and choppy with badly timed audio but:

I didn't lie ninja dog... ;)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wBNpXCgA0

clearer vid:

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21934

[distgfx]

Looks decent, need to see more gameplay though.

[ninja dog]

People that complain/ed about the open world portion of NMH makes me scratch my head.

It wasn't great, but it didn't take away from the game. It was just there.



It did take away from the game 'cause you had to drive around in it. A menu or some smaller area to get sidequests in would've done the trick.

[corrosivefrost]

The gameplay on that looks potentially good, like DMC-ish. The character designs, however, leave me scratching my head.

[ninja dog]

hard to see and choppy with badly timed audio but:

I didn't lie ninja dog... ;)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wBNpXCgA0

clearer vid:

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21934

http://i37.tinypic.com/wqwm14.jpg

[distgfx]

clearer vid:

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21934

Much better, but it looks disappointing to me. I expected more out of such an anticipated title. I shall reserve judgment for when I get to play it.

[RelentlessRolento]

finally a DMC game that isn't DMC. I love DMC but I have too many gripes with it to like it alot. Bayonetta is my cup of naked-woman tea.

[zewone]

It did take away from the game 'cause you had to drive around in it. A menu or some smaller area to get sidequests in would've done the trick.

I suppose, and I agree that a menu could have done it too. I just don't think that is was that big of a deal.

[Chacrana]

I like the style a lot.

[RelentlessRolento]

I like the style a lot.

I like it that it takes the sex of DMC and puts it entirely in focus in combination with the gameplay. I'm being honest saying I think it's something that realy helps the testosterone based gameplay.

[KingBroly]

Announcement of the Day: No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle

There is...no denying it.

EDIT: It has just occurred to me the INITIALS of the subtitle. Oh noes...

[ninja dog]

I'm happy she doesn't have a high pitched japanese chick voice and sounds pretty evil/sadistic. The action looks suitably insane and fast paced. They didn't try to make it appeal to everyone, which is nice...I really don't care if the game draws in people who don't like DMC/NG--I want it over the top and beyond questionable taste. overall, I'm just glad to get a new non-NG or DMC hardcore action game after the sequels for those games let me down.

[heavyd853]

Yeah at first the music and stylishness sorta threw me off, but at the end when that dudes like "I'm at your doorstep bayonetta!" or something I was like "Thats pretty jazzy"

[Rei no Otaku]

NMH2 and Bayonetta look awesome.

[RelentlessRolento]

NMH2 and Bayonetta look awesome.


2nded but more like is and not look

[Rei no Otaku]

Well I need to play them first before I can say that.

As for 99 Nights 2, yes please! I liked the first game a lot.

[RelentlessRolento]

looking forward to this as well... not excited, but it's going to steal alot of my life away...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41053.html

[ninja dog]

Looks pretty awesome. I suck so bad at MH, so I'd never get to do half the cool stuff you can do in the game.

[JEKKI]

Bayonetta

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/sambao/fap.gif

[whoknows]

So NMH2 hasn't been confirmed as a Wii exclusive yet?

[Chacrana]

well I'm goin to sleep. I'm tired as hell and it's been kinda a long day. But I did invest a good 5 hours into The Witcher, so I'd say that's a success.

[Ahadi]

Okay, so my LBP key flopped. Whatev. I also signed into PSN for the first time in a while, thanks for the add daroga :-)

I played the demo for bionic commando. Holy shit that's a cool game. I like how they make fun of you for playing the demo, good stuff. I'll be purchasing this real soon.

And does anyone know of any free IM clients for windows mobile that plays off of unlimited texting as opposed to needing to be online?

[gunm]

People that complain/ed about the open world portion of NMH makes me scratch my head.

It wasn't great, but it didn't take away from the game. It was just there.

See RR's comment below:

the city felt dead, if I wasn't killing thing's I wasn't as happy. good thing i love the game so much I don't care if I'm happy or not.

Basically, there was no "open world". Just a lame, time-consuming way to do a UI for the next mission/minigame. A true open-world would've been pretty awesome, killing random by-standers with the beam katana would've been cool.

But none of my complaints would prevent me from giving the sequel a chance. As Rei said, I gotta play it to make a real judgment on it.

Same for Bayonetta. Both those games look awesome, but if they aren't fun for me, then I'll skip 'em.

btw, wb zew.

[jer7583]

free extra LBP code to the first one to use it!

K25D 22BM N6KC

its pretty good,but ill be gone all weekend so i cant play the beta much its pretty good so far though

[JEKKI]

o crap! mura mura obo san whatever...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41056.html

[JEKKI]

free extra LBP code to the first one to use it!

K25D 22BM N6KC

its pretty good,but ill be gone all weekend so i cant play the beta much its pretty good so far thoughahhhh!!! how do I do it?!?!?!?!

-EDIT-

:cry: did I lose yet?!?!?!?!

[gunm]

Nice one JEKKI! I was waiting for that Muramasa clip...and it's simply beautiful.

[jer7583]

account management then redeem code

[JEKKI]

account management then redeem code


I got beat by a mysterious lurker :cry:

o well... time better spent =P

thanks you anyway! and you're welcome Mr or Ms lurker!!

[zewone]

Do you still need a code JEKKI?

[jer7583]

sorry jekki i would have saved it for you if i knew you wanted one :(

[JEKKI]

thanks all but I'm good... I'm only jumping on the opportunity.

if u got one to give... give it to someone else!!!!!!

I only got time for Silent Hill and Yakuza this weekend!!

[KingBroly]

The beta ends in like...3 days or something like that. It looks like (if the fans get their wish, and probably will) the beta levels will be there at launch.

[dmaul1114]

Gave the Mega Man 9 demo a whirl....confirmed my suspicions. Too ugly and too difficult to warrant a purchased from me.

Put another couple hours in to Fight Night round 3, still digging that game.

[Dr Mario Kart]

So Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon has six difficulty settings - How bizarre. Offhand I'd say that its the most I've seen in a console game outside of an Elder Scrolls grade slider.

The very last setting should be a joke. Like it tells you that they tested it and determined that it wasnt actually possible to beat the game. Might as well also cater to the extreme speed/score runner demographic.

[KingBroly]

I have an interesting photo to show you all:

NOTE: Whether it is BS or not remains to be seen.

http://img.techpowerup.org/081009/l_ym_dra03.jpg

[zewone]

What is that? Alucard?

[Krymner]

Feeling quite a bit better today.

I put in a couple more hours on Xenosaga 2. I've managed to get used to the new menus, leveling up skills and stuff, and finally figured out the combat, so now I'm in a nice groove and I'm moving along at a good pace. Hopefully I can get it finished within a few weeks.

I also played a little more Disgaea 3. I really like the game and all, the story, characters, combat, etc..... but I'm just not feeling motivated very much to play another strategy RPG right now. I think I'm gonna backlog it for awhile and come back to it later.

[corrosivefrost]

What is that? Alucard?

My guess would be Alucard -- looks like it's from the Castlevania fighting game for the Wii.

[benjamouth]

Hey GGT,

Nearly done with Bourne Conspiracy, I think I'll play through Mass Effect next.

Is that Tekken news old or new, seems new to me yet people are saying it was announced as coming out on the 360 a while back.

[DarthPuma]

It's new that it's the Bloodline Rebellion version iirc.

[pete5883]

Gave the Mega Man 9 demo a whirl....confirmed my suspicions. Too ugly and too difficult to warrant a purchased from me.
I thought the same, til i whupped it on my second try, leaving me wanting more. Well, still too ugly though.

[daroga]

I'm scared that the new NMH is for the DS. Please make it be for a console. Please.

Bah, the new Halo thing isn't until next fall? Lame.

[Rei no Otaku]

Gave the Mega Man 9 demo a whirl....confirmed my suspicions. Too ugly and too difficult to warrant a purchased from me.
Same here. I haven't had such little desire to buy a game since Braid.

[daroga]

Bummer, but I understand. Tough games, even though they can be made with pure awesome like Mega Man 9, can be scary. :(

[BlueLobstah]

I'm scared that the new NMH is for the DS. Please make it be for a console. Please.


No worries. Confirmed for Wii, January 2010 US (http://www.mmv.co.jp/common/images/var/ir_news/232/081009TGS2008.pdf).

[daroga]

No worries. Confirmed for Wii, January 2010 US (http://www.mmv.co.jp/common/images/var/ir_news/232/081009TGS2008.pdf).Awesome. 2010 is long way away though. :(

I think I like what Nintendo is doing recently. Announce nothing until it's a few months from being out. Sure, it makes the message board kids assume they're only going to make Wii Brain Fit Training from here on out, but it makes the anticipation and the subsequent delays in a lengthy production schedule much less painful.

[Rei no Otaku]

Bummer, but I understand. Tough games, even though they can be made with pure awesome like Mega Man 9, can be scary. :(
If this game had come out when I was 13-18 I'd have been all over it. Now I have a family, a job, and I'm going to school. I don't have time for a game where I'm going to get frustrated and looks like crap.

[daroga]

If this game had come out when I was 13-18 I'd have been all over it. Now I have a family, a job, and I'm going to school. I don't have time for a game where I'm going to get frustrated and looks like crap.I know, I was just teasing. :) It's actually no where near as hard as the Internet would have you believe. If you've ever played a Mega Man game before in your life, with a boss-order FAQ in hand, it shouldn't take you more than 3 hours to beat it.

And it's visual style? It's far more interesting than the overly-busy and wrongly-proportioned 7 & 8.

[Jest]

Interesting stuff about NMH2.

Interestinger stuff about Resistance 2. PSP and PS3 games work together to unlock stuff.
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3170474

[BlueLobstah]

...it shouldn't take you more than 3 hours to beat it.


I spent almost two hours trying to beat Wily's Castle and failed. :(

[daroga]

I spent almost two hours trying to beat Wily's Castle and failed. :(Buy eTanks like a mad man before you go in. And a 1/2 damage deal for the last stage.

Those stages are pretty tricky in places, though.

[BlueLobstah]

Buy eTanks like a mad man before you go in. And a 1/2 damage deal for the last stage.

Those stages are pretty tricky in places, though.


The sad part is that I did. :lol:

I really wish I had a PS3, the things people are creating in LBP are fantastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWISz78AmOc

[dmaul1114]

If this game had come out when I was 13-18 I'd have been all over it. Now I have a family, a job, and I'm going to school. I don't have time for a game where I'm going to get frustrated and looks like crap.

Yep, sans family here as I'm not married yet. I just have no patience for hard games, skill based games etc. Though honestly I've not liked them since the NES era when I was even younger and had to play whatever my parents bought me.

I like games I can get through pretty easily (has to be some challenge of course) as I just like to play to unwind and relax a few hours a week. Hard games just piss me off and defeat that purpose.

[Krymner]

I've only managed to beat 4 bosses so far in MM9. Fishlady, Spaceman, Stoney, and Bling-Bling...or whatever their names are. IDK. I haven't played a Mega Man game in years, either. But nonetheless, I will beat it someday. I've never been one of those chaps who has to beat the game within days of buying it, so I just take my time with it and when it starts to frustrate me, I just walk away and come back to it another time. No worries.

Oh and I just got some 1-month free Netflix codes. If any GGTer wants one, just gimmie a holler.

[Ahadi]

The sad part is that I did. :lol:

I really wish I had a PS3, the things people are creating in LBP are fantastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWISz78AmOc

I'm disappointed it took me until about the minute mark to realize that the music matched up with the movement of Sackboy and the tile looking things on the wall. Really neat stuff. I really can't wait for LBP!

[Kendal]

I was wondering what was so special about that LBP level. I didn't have my sound on. I wish I had a beta code, but I can wait for the finished product. I don't want to spoil it for me. ;)

[ninja dog]

That's pretty awesome. Finally a replacement for Mario Paint!

[Chacrana]

The sad part is that I did. :lol:

I really wish I had a PS3, the things people are creating in LBP are fantastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWISz78AmOc

What a cool uhm...

Well, actually I'd rather just play that on the piano myself. This version of the song is taken from the Piano Collections, and I was frustrated by the person playing the song on the piano missing a few of the notes :( .

But c'mon, the novelty of doing this is gonna wear off in like... a minute.

[daroga]

The novelty of that level? Yes. But the editor is so intense, some really creative folks are going to make some amazing platforming.

[nyprimus4]

So my PS3 reached $395 and my reserve is $400. The guy who bid $395 though lives about 10 minutes from me and is going to give me $400 cash which is amazing compared to paypal. I'm going to then go to the mall and get the 16GB iTouch, Sony MDR-EX75 headphones, and a $20 iTunes gift card for games.

[blueshinra]

Speaking of LBP, here (http://www.ff7citadel.com/updates/00000340.shtml)'s a post I made today at the FFVII Citadel about the Sephiroth (and Old Snake) Sackboys.

[nyprimus4]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170446

hawt.

[Chacrana]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170446

hawt.

Nawt.

Remember the HD-DVD drive? It sucked.

[benjamouth]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170446

hawt.

Whats the point, Blu-Ray will go the same way as HD-DVD, it's just taking longer.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: at MS always saying they won't be getting a Blu-ray drive but now do.

[jer7583]

$200 360 core + $100 Blu-Ray Drive = Dead PS3. (If they go with $100, which they should)

That external drive will remove the reason why a good 50% of people are buying PS3s. Add the netflix option and that decision becomes even easier.

Little Big Planet is great, but man is the jumping floaty and frustrating. I actually think things are going to feel pretty samey pretty quick. Those music levels are okay, cool.. but you could have just done that on a piano. Most of the platforming levels end up feeling very similar, too.

[I_Am_ProZac]

Whats the point, Blu-Ray will go the same way as HD-DVD, it's just taking longer.

If Blu-ray is also going to die out, what is going to be the physical HD format?

[suko_32]

Whats the point, Blu-Ray will go the same way as HD-DVD, it's just taking longer.

You really believe that?

[jer7583]

If this game had come out when I was 13-18 I'd have been all over it. Now I have a family, a job, and I'm going to school. I don't have time for a game where I'm going to get frustrated and looks like crap.

Wait..

No time for a game that, even with repeated tries for a week or two on wily's castle, I've only has racked up 2 and a half hours of play-time to get through? But you're buying like 20 games that each will take at least 10 hours apeice this holiday? Since when did NES games take more than 3ish hours to get through?

??

Mega Man 9 does not look like crap. It looks like it was made 20 years ago, and they completely succeded at that goal.

[MarkMan]

I'm down with a Blu Ray external.

goooo

[benjamouth]

If Blu-ray is also going to die out, what is going to be the physical HD format?

There might not be one, DVD will probably hang on long enough until digital distrubution of movies kill physical discs completely.

You really believe that?

I certainly do, people aren't gonna pay $30 for movies and digital distrubution will take over before Blu-ray can get a decent hold in the market.

[jer7583]

Yeah, I don't own any Blu-Rays because they're too damned expensive.

DVD is just fine. I'll take a $15 DVD over a $20-30-40 Blu Ray anyday.

[nyprimus4]

Blu-ray external for 360 means I won't sell my small blu-ray collection (20 discs). And I'll just keep them in my closet until the drive comes out at which point I can start buying Blu-rays again.

[Kendal]

The comments are hilarious on that MS Blu drive.

[jer7583]

So, no talk of the new "Halo 3 Experience"?

haha.. I think it could be good if they really change up the gameplay. I'm a big halo fan but even I'm a bit tired of the Halo gameplay by now. (which isn't a knock, 3 games and probably a few hundred hours of single and multi will do that with any game)

If it's long enough, feels distinctly different than Halo 3, and is priced less than $60, it'll be awesome.

I also like the superintendent and his design. They should have him be consistently helping you out through the environment, kinda like a silent, ghostly version of Alyx.

[Chibi_Kaji]

$200 360 core + $100 Blu-Ray Drive = Dead PS3. (If they go with $100, which they should)
The cheapest that External Blu-ray drive will be is probably around $150 if you are lucky.

benjamouth: I still think digital distribution has a long way to go until it kills off physical media completely.

[KaneRobot]

Nawt.

Remember the HD-DVD drive? It sucked.

The HD DVD drive did not/does not suck.

[Krymner]

I only own a couple of Blu-Rays myself. I'll only buy others if they are something exceptional, like The Dark Knight. Otherwise, I'll just go the cheaper route with DVD. However, usually when I rent movies tho, I'll rent the blu-ray now.

And Jer, you're dreaming if you think the 360 external blu-ray will be $100. I'll be very surprised if it comes in at anything under $199.

Got to disc 2 in Xenosaga. I guess this game is a lot shorter than I had imagined. I anticipated about 30 hours, but I guess its closer to 20??

[Chacrana]

The HD DVD drive did not/does not suck.

It was worse that probably every other HD DVD drive... sorta like the HD equivalent of the PS2's DVD playing capabilities.

[benjamouth]

benjamouth: I still think digital distribution has a long way to go until it kills off physical media completely.

You may well be right, but I'll back my opinion up with this. I already see a lot of people with the ability to download movies. I have the ability through cable to get stuff on-demand, I also have the option of using the Live Marketplace (but not as many people in the world have Live so we can discount that)

My Parents in the UK already rent a lot of movies via digital download throught their free view box, and that doesn't even require a monthly subscription (like cable, or SKY as most people in the UK have).

When they turn off the analogue signal off in the UK and US everyone will have to have digital TV, and that means one of the fundamental cornerstones for digital distribuition will be in place.

I could be way off though, thats just my opinion.

[I_Am_ProZac]

There might not be one, DVD will probably hang on long enough until digital distrubution of movies kill physical discs completely.

Blu-ray will hang on long enough, just with the amount of people that won't settle for less than HD now. It may not gain extreme popularity, but there will be an HD format that just hangs on if anything.

Got to disc 2 in Xenosaga. I guess this game is a lot shorter than I had imagined. I anticipated about 30 hours, but I guess its closer to 20??

Most estimates I heard were just at 20 hours. Took me 22-23, and I kinda thought I tend to go through RPGs faster than most.

[nyprimus4]

I only own a couple of Blu-Rays myself. I'll only buy others if they are something exceptional, like The Dark Knight. Otherwise, I'll just go the cheaper route with DVD. However, usually when I rent movies tho, I'll rent the blu-ray now.

And Jer, you're dreaming if you think the 360 external blu-ray will be $100. I'll be very surprised if it comes in at anything under $199.

Got to disc 2 in Xenosaga. I guess this game is a lot shorter than I had imagined. I anticipated about 30 hours, but I guess its closer to 20??
The article said expect $100-150. $150 is probably the sweet spot.

[Kendal]

So, no talk of the new "Halo 3 Experience"?

haha.. I think it could be good if they really change up the gameplay. I'm a big halo fan but even I'm a bit tired of the Halo gameplay by now. (which isn't a knock, 3 games and probably a few hundred hours of single and multi will do that with any game)

If it's long enough, feels distinctly different than Halo 3, and is priced less than $60, it'll be awesome.

I also like the superintendent and his design. They should have him be consistently helping you out through the environment, kinda like a silent, ghostly version of Alyx.

Wait, what? Link? What is this you speak of?

[corrosivefrost]

The sad part is that I did. :lol:

I really wish I had a PS3, the things people are creating in LBP are fantastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWISz78AmOc

What's the point? Is it fun pushing a block through a level to hear a piano track? I'll just play the MP3 if I want to hear it. And I'll probably read my email or browse the internet or play a real game, all of which are a hell of a lot more fun.

Those music levels are okay, cool.. but you could have just done that on a piano. Most of the platforming levels end up feeling very similar, too.

Yes. This. This is why the beta is pissing me off. It's showing the inherent flaw in the gameplay design. In order to let people be creative and make levels that look like what they want, they oversimplified core game play elements... sure, the calculator was neat, sure the tetris concept was neat, but now what? if I want a calculator, i'm not turning on LBP to use one. if I want tetris, I'll play the actual game. if I want music, I'll listen to the mp3. and if I want fun platforming, I don't think I'll be getting it from LBP at this point. in a sense, the game seems, now, like a glorified level editor, where all the focus is on creating something cool looking rather than the gameplay being fun and interesting. to me, it's like the custom paintjobs in Forza 2. Sure, you spent 12 hours making an awesome looking paint job. That's neat. But does it make my racing game any more fun to play? Not really... so now what?

There might not be one, DVD will probably hang on long enough until digital distrubution of movies kill physical discs completely.

I certainly do, people aren't gonna pay $30 for movies and digital distrubution will take over before Blu-ray can get a decent hold in the market.

Digitial distribution sucks ass and there's no way it becomes prevalent in the near future. Yes, storage is cheap, and yes, internets are fast. But not everybody has fast internet. Not everyone has a 1TB storage drive for their PC. Hell, there may even be people without PCs still. I know my parents didn't have one until I gave them one. And they still have dialup because it's the only thing available to them. Factor in bandwidth caps by some ISPs and other mitigating factors (I never pay $30 for a movie, but if I'm going to buy a movie, I'd rather spend $5 more to have physical media with artwork and everything that should accompany it).

Yeah, I don't own any Blu-Rays because they're too damned expensive.

DVD is just fine. I'll take a $15 DVD over a $20-30-40 Blu Ray anyday.

I don't think I've ever paid more than $15 for a blu-ray.

[Chacrana]

I agree with the above. I don't like digital distribution and I don't like LBP. They should digitally distribute LBP.

[corrosivefrost]

So, no talk of the new "Halo 3 Experience"?

After my first dose of the Halo 3 experience, I don't need a new one. My first experience left me trying to understand what people found so great or why I should care. I couldn't finish the campaign and get rid of the game fast enough. Thankfully it only ran me $15 in the first place... though I still feel like I got screwed.

Blu-ray external for 360 means I won't sell my small blu-ray collection (20 discs). And I'll just keep them in my closet until the drive comes out at which point I can start buying Blu-rays again.

Wait wait wait. Weren't you considering doing just the opposite and selling your 360 and keeping just your PS3? Or do I have that backwards?

[jer7583]

Yeah, LBP is fun, but I think i'll be waiting to see what the community comes up with at release. If there's some really, really awesome levels out there, i'll pick it up later. I'm sure that Media Molecule's levels in the actual game are really good too, but so was Wario Ware: Shake It and I didn't pay even $50 for that either..

So, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead it is this year. Maybe Castlevania too if I can swing it.

http://i35.tinypic.com/106n8n5.jpg

New Bond Game on Wii. Activision does not give a shit about the Wii. Activision+Ubisoft are the worst. Just look at that N64-era water on the right.. lol.

[benjamouth]

.
Digitial distribution sucks ass and there's no way it becomes prevalent in the near future. Yes, storage is cheap, and yes, internets are fast. But not everybody has fast internet. Not everyone has a 1TB storage drive for their PC. Hell, there may even be people without PCs still. I know my parents didn't have one until I gave them one. And they still have dialup because it's the only thing available to them. Factor in bandwidth caps by some ISPs and other mitigating factors (I never pay $30 for a movie, but if I'm going to buy a movie, I'd rather spend $5 more to have physical media with artwork and everything that should accompany it).


You seem to be looking at this from an entirely buying movies point of view (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you're only renting a film then you don't need huge amounts of storage. You also don't need a PC, most people will be able to do it with whatever cable/satellite equipment they'll need when the analogue system gets switched off.

Lack of broadband is a factor at the moment, but I can only see internet connections getting faster, I mean look what speeds we had 5 years ago compared to what we have now. I would also suggest that if someone doesn't have a decent internet connection now, and the reason is monetary then I doubt they'll be buying many Blu-Ray discs.

Another factor I suspect DD has in it's favour is industry support. I'm guessing the movie industry likes DD as it's probably easier to prevent piracy and it's a way of having movies available to buy 27-7, and the retailer cut is probably a lot smaller to.

[Chibi_Kaji]

I'm still debating on getting Far Cry 2. It sounds like it could be pretty cool.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Yeah, LBP is fun, but I think i'll be waiting to see what the community comes up with at release. If there's some really, really awesome levels out there, i'll pick it up later. I'm sure that Media Molecule's levels in the actual game are really good too, but so was Wario Ware: Shake It and I didn't pay even $50 for that either..

So, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead it is this year. Maybe Castlevania too if I can swing it.

http://i35.tinypic.com/106n8n5.jpg

New Bond Game on Wii. Activision does not give a shit about the Wii. Activision+Ubisoft are the worst. Just look at that N64-era water on the right.. lol.

The neogaf thread about this, where I assume you got that pic from, is already epic.

[jer7583]

Yeah, it is. Those doom/goldeneye/quake photoshops are great. Just thought I'd bring some of that awesomeness in here.

[KingBroly]

Oh dear...

[corrosivefrost]

You seem to be looking at this from an entirely buying movies point of view (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you're only renting a film then you don't need huge amounts of storage. You also don't need a PC, most people will be able to do it with whatever cable/satellite equipment they'll need when the analogue system gets switched off.

Lack of broadband is a factor at the moment, but I can only see internet connections getting faster, I mean look what speeds we had 5 years ago compared to what we have now. I would also suggest that if someone doesn't have a decent internet connection now, and the reason is monetary then I doubt they'll be buying many Blu-Ray discs.

Another factor I suspect DD has in it's favour is industry support. I'm guessing the movie industry likes DD as it's probably easier to prevent piracy and it's a way of having movies available to buy 27-7, and the retailer cut is probably a lot smaller to.

Buying vs Renting? I suppose if we're talking renting, your case seems more sound, but still -- I have broadband (it's slow as hell though) and I had netflix and I can tell you the number of movies we watched that weren't sent to us from the queue: 0. My connection speed, unless it hits T1-T3 speeds, and my router/cable modem happen to be sitting right by my DVR cable box, it'll never happen for me. Granted, the digital distribution for netflix means you have to watch on your PC/laptop instead of your TV, unless you have great streaming set up to a 360 or PS3 -- or have one of those boxes that does it for you. As for paying the cable company to rent my movies? I can't justify it. Netflix/Blockbuster just seems more cost effective to me.

You might be right. But I just don't see it. Then again, I'm not all about half the things these crazy kids are into these days. :oldman:

[corrosivefrost]

The neogaf thread about this, where I assume you got that pic from, is already epic.

link?

[distgfx]

Yay another debate! Reasons why DD won't take off for a long time:

Strict DRM - Average Joe fuckface downloads the movie, deletes it because he needs space then tryies to redownload it later when a friend comes over. Oops! Can't do that!

Bandwidth caps - I'm looking at you Comcast.

Not everyone has high speed internet - I still know friends who only have a choice between 56k and satellite internet. Don't even try to say they can use satellite for high speed. If you download over 100MB per hour then you get cut to lower than 56k speeds. I know this personally from experience.

Balls - DD of movies lately is balls.

[gunm]

White Knight Chronicles is getting interesting with the Live multiplayer features confirmed. Lots of cool stuff coming out of TGS.

[pochaccoheaven]

nintendo builds a product that is ensured that it will not break easily like the 360. 360 has severe damages like that red ring of death. sony use to have cheap parts, like the ps1 with the plastic lens parts or the ps2 with parts that fused out.

nintendo builds a system that is cost effective for the consumer. they are not going to put things where it's expensive now but cheaper later. they think about the consumer. look at the reason why motion plus wasn't included during release. it shows that they were thinking about saving consumers pockets and coming back later to enhance the product once it becomes cheaper. you don't see this with ps3/360. sony through that blu-ray player and it cost the console mass amounts of cost. they should have stuck with dvd and come back when it got cheaper. where is the idea where consumer comes first?!

[daroga]

So, Sonic and the Secret Rings was a lot of fun on the Wii. Flawed, but fun. I was looking forward to their second outing in that series to see if they'd fix things. Now they've given Sonic a sword. *sigh*

As of today, I'm just putting my Genesis Sonic games on a shelf with Sonic Rush and pretending like that's the sum-total of Sonic games that were ever made. Should've done it years ago I suppose, but better late than never.

[jer7583]

nintendo builds a product that is ensured that it will not break easily like the 360. 360 has severe damages like that red ring of death. sony use to have cheap parts, like the ps1 with the plastic lens parts or the ps2 with parts that fused out.

nintendo builds a system that is cost effective for the consumer. they are not going to put things where it's expensive now but cheaper later. they think about the consumer. look at the reason why motion plus wasn't included during release. it shows that they were thinking about saving consumers pockets and coming back later to enhance the product once it becomes cheaper. you don't see this with ps3/360. sony through that blu-ray player and it cost the console mass amounts of cost. they should have stuck with dvd and come back when it got cheaper. where is the idea where consumer comes first?!

This might be the worst post ever put in a GGT.

Not just for your cliched ideas but the way it was written. Thank you sir, for failing 9th grade english.

[distgfx]

Nintendo could of done what MS and Sony did and sell the console at a loss but make it up in accessories and software. They sure as hell could of made it up with accessories, look at all the crap that's out there for it. As for software, well, people buy it I guess. If they were so concerned about price, selling it at a loss would of been a good idea in the first place.

[Kendal]

nintendo builds a product that is ensured that it will not break easily like the 360. 360 has severe damages like that red ring of death. sony use to have cheap parts, like the ps1 with the plastic lens parts or the ps2 with parts that fused out.

nintendo builds a system that is cost effective for the consumer. they are not going to put things where it's expensive now but cheaper later. they think about the consumer. look at the reason why motion plus wasn't included during release. it shows that they were thinking about saving consumers pockets and coming back later to enhance the product once it becomes cheaper. you don't see this with ps3/360. sony through that blu-ray player and it cost the console mass amounts of cost. they should have stuck with dvd and come back when it got cheaper. where is the idea where consumer comes first?!

lolwut?

[benjamouth]

nintendo builds a product that is ensured that it will not break easily like the 360. 360 has severe damages like that red ring of death. sony use to have cheap parts, like the ps1 with the plastic lens parts or the ps2 with parts that fused out.

nintendo builds a system that is cost effective for the consumer. they are not going to put things where it's expensive now but cheaper later. they think about the consumer. look at the reason why motion plus wasn't included during release. it shows that they were thinking about saving consumers pockets and coming back later to enhance the product once it becomes cheaper. you don't see this with ps3/360. sony through that blu-ray player and it cost the console mass amounts of cost. they should have stuck with dvd and come back when it got cheaper. where is the idea where consumer comes first?!

:rofl:

Really ????

EDIT - Sigged.

[Azumangaman]

HAHAHAHAH,
I'm going to be writing a review/article (not sure which) for the Spectator.
BALLIN.
Its depressing how many people my age are obsessed with High School Musical.

[corrosivefrost]

where the holy hell did that come from?

[Azumangaman]

where the holy hell did that come from?
I called up the editor to do some more work for the paper, he talked about how they didn't have any room for video games, but he asked if there were any upcoming movies I was interested in or that people would be interested.
Then I said HSM3(not my taste, but its SCARY popular in High School, no joke) and he was like ZOMG great idea! I'll give you all the details TUESDAY :)

[corrosivefrost]

I called up the editor to do some more work for the paper, he talked about how they didn't have any room for video games, but he asked if there were any upcoming movies I was interested in or that people would be interested.
Then I said HSM3(not my taste, but its SCARY popular in High School, no joke) and he was like ZOMG great idea! I'll give you all the details TUESDAY :)

Sorry, forgot to quote... was really asking where pochaccoheaven's post came from... but your situation is interesting too! :D

[JEKKI]

whoo! did I tell u guys??

I like Del Taco!!!

1/2 lb been + cheese burritos is food u can live off!!!

Bayonetta <3

any1 gonna get a Megaman 9 press kit today???

[pochaccoheaven]

Nintendo could of done what MS and Sony did and sell the console at a loss but make it up in accessories and software. They sure as hell could of made it up with accessories, look at all the crap that's out there for it. As for software, well, people buy it I guess. If they were so concerned about price, selling it at a loss would of been a good idea in the first place.

why would you want to sell something at a loss when your only income is coming from one thing that you produce? for sony and microsoft they can take the loss [sony music/ movies and microsoft with pc software] as they have other resources to back them up. but when you don't have other resources, how do you do that? remember that sony has lost all their money earned from the ps2, so now all the fundings for ps3 is from money they earn from movies and music and whatever else they have.

businesses are to earn profits, not lose profits and earn them again through a slow process. this business model doesn't work because you have sony's loses to back that up.

remember that profit/revenue chart posted several months ago?! out of all the companies, nintendo is the only one making a profit.

as a side note, how many here downloaded megaman 9? this is the real joke for the hardcore.

[Dr Mario Kart]

FY* Sony** Nintendo Microsoft
1998 974,000,000 629,000,000
1999 1,130,000,000 645,000,000
2000 730,000,000 421,000,000
2001 -409,000,000 726,000,000
2002 623,000,000 800,000,000 -750,000,000
2003 939,000,000 560,000,000 -1,191,000,000
2004 650,000,000 316,000,000 -1,215,000,000
2005 404,000,000 777,000,000 -485,000,000
2006 75,000,000 894,000,000 -1,262,000,000
2007 -1,969,000,000 1,489,000,000 -1,892,000,000
2008 -1,265,000,000 2,480,000,000 426,000,000
2009 51,000,000 1,026,000,000
Totals 1,953,000,000 10,762,000,000 -6,369,000,000
One of my favorite charts.

[corrosivefrost]

why would you want to sell something at a loss when your only income is coming from one thing that you produce?

Because once you put the product in a home and have a user, your software and accessories drive your profit. Game companies have always sold the hardware at a loss initially, as the technology is new and it takes awhile for them to refine the process enough to achieve economies of scale.

However, this does not apply to nintendo in this generation. The Wii really *is* a slightly upgraded gamecube, so nintendo already had economies of scale established (remember, the wii's controller was originally planned as a gamecube accessory).

It'd be interesting to see how much of a bath Nintendo took on the Gamecube and how much the GBA/DS success funded the development of the gamecube motion accessory as it's own console.

[benjamouth]

One of my favorite charts.

Why?
You got shares in Nintendo or something ?

[distgfx]

why would you want to sell something at a loss when your only income is coming from one thing that you produce? for sony and microsoft they can take the loss [sony music/ movies and microsoft with pc software] as they have other resources to back them up. but when you don't have other resources, how do you do that? remember that sony has lost all their money earned from the ps2, so now all the fundings for ps3 is from money they earn from movies and music and whatever else they have.

businesses are to earn profits, not lose profits and earn them again through a slow process. this business model doesn't work because you have sony's loses to back that up.

remember that profit/revenue chart posted several months ago?! out of all the companies, nintendo is the only one making a profit.

as a side note, how many here downloaded megaman 9? this is the real joke for the hardcore.

You make it sound as if they wouldn't be able to make it back through software and accessory sales ... *sigh* if only...

EDIT: Yay! Dead or Alive Onl- ... *vomits* Where's itagaki when you need him.

[daroga]

Hey, undo's working today in LBP! Main that thing is a time sink. I spent an hour playing with a level and really did nothing.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Because once you put the product in a home and have a user, your software and accessories drive your profit. Game companies have always sold the hardware at a loss initially, as the technology is new and it takes awhile for them to refine the process enough to achieve economies of scale.

However, this does not apply to nintendo in this generation. The Wii really *is* a slightly upgraded gamecube, so nintendo already had economies of scale established (remember, the wii's controller was originally planned as a gamecube accessory).

It'd be interesting to see how much of a bath Nintendo took on the Gamecube and how much the GBA/DS success funded the development of the gamecube motion accessory as it's own console.
Ninetndo has always been against the loss leader strategy. Its not an exception they are making this generation. The only time they sold the Gamecube at a loss was for one quarter during the drop to $99, I believe.

[distgfx]

So ... I take it no one else hates the fact that the hair in bayonetta just comes out of a portal in the shape of a fist and punches someone? That's the one thing that bugged me the most, everything else was awesome.

[JEKKI]

So ... I take it no one else hates the fact that the hair in bayonetta just comes out of a portal in the shape of a fist and punches someone? That's the one thing that bugged me the most, everything else was awesome.


your face is a portal.

your face is a lie!!!

http://bayonetta.jp/images/13.jpg

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/917/917808/bayonetta-20081008093439756.jpg

[pochaccoheaven]

1)Because once you put the product in a home and have a user, your software and accessories drive your profit. 2)Game companies have always sold the hardware at a loss initially, as the technology is new and it takes awhile for them to refine the process enough to achieve economies of scale.

However, this does not apply to nintendo in this generation. 3)The Wii really *is* a slightly upgraded gamecube, so nintendo already had economies of scale established (remember, the wii's controller was originally planned as a gamecube accessory).

It'd be interesting to see how much of a bath Nintendo took on the Gamecube and how much the GBA/DS success funded the development of the gamecube motion accessory as it's own console.

1)that is the assumption that if your console is chosen out of the three. if it was only a single console then yes, that would not be a problem but having to compete with two other companies isn't a good thing.

2)i believe nintendo is the only company that sells a hardware without a loss for all generation, not only for this generation.

3)it's true that the wii is a better version of the wii. but it was for backward compatability. remember xbox and xbox 360? what happened when they changed companies. the backwards compatability of the wii is one of the important parts of nintendo's business models.

[MarkMan]

I got 2 Mega Man 9 press kits ;D

[daroga]

How much are those going to be when they go up on the store?

[Dr Mario Kart]

What is with all the action RPGs these days? Its like everyone and their mother wants to be Tri-Ace. No wants to make a pure turn based game thats NOT a strategy RPG.

I hope its not another one of those enduring industry trends.

[Kendal]

Jekki's pic shows azz! I likey.

[distgfx]

I got 2 Mega Man 9 press kits ;D

I hate you more than I thought it was possible to hate a man ... or maybe that's just envy.

[pochaccoheaven]

the real joke about megaman 9 lies on the graphics. the "hardcore" always rants about the graphics. yet megaman 9 isn't heavy on the graphics. it contradicts the "hardcore" motto.

this backs up nintendo's reasons about graphics, that it's become a commodity. look at dx9 and dx10, you can tell the difference if you stop and look at the games environments and such. but while playing a game you will barely notice a difference.

[daroga]

the real joke about megaman 9 lies on the graphics. the "hardcore" always rants about the graphics. yet megaman 9 isn't heavy on the graphics. it contradicts the "hardcore" motto.

this backs up nintendo's reasons about graphics, that it's become a commodity. look at dx9 and dx10, you can tell the difference if you stop and look at the games environments and such. but while playing a game you will barely notice a difference.What?

[pochaccoheaven]

What?

when you play lost planet pc in dx9 and dx10, you can tell the difference while playing?! i can't as i'm busy trying to kill the bad guys.

[daroga]

I don't know. I don't play PC games.

What does Mega Man have to do with DirectX?

[pochaccoheaven]

I don't know. I don't play PC games.

What does Mega Man have to do with DirectX?

forget i ever mentioned it. there are too many literal people here.

[benjamouth]

the real joke about megaman 9 lies on the graphics. the "hardcore" always rants about the graphics. yet megaman 9 isn't heavy on the graphics. it contradicts the "hardcore" motto.

this backs up nintendo's reasons about graphics, that it's become a commodity. look at dx9 and dx10, you can tell the difference if you stop and look at the games environments and such. but while playing a game you will barely notice a difference.

You're hopped up on goof-balls, right ?

[corrosivefrost]

So ... I take it no one else hates the fact that the hair in bayonetta just comes out of a portal in the shape of a fist and punches someone? That's the one thing that bugged me the most, everything else was awesome.

:rofl:

What? Really?

You're hopped up on goof-balls, right ?

distgfx is too. he's talking about hair coming out of portals and sucker punching a fool.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

How much are those going to be when they go up on the store?

Kotaku reports that they will be $49.95 and that they go on sale tomorrow....but they could have just pulled that info from someone's blog ;)

EDIT: I also think you need to be a member of the Capcom unity site or you aren't eligible.

[Kendal]

That shit is awesome. What game is it? When is it coming out, if not arleady? I wanna hair punch a fool!

[daroga]

Kotaku reports that they will be $49.95 and that they go on sale tomorrow....but they could have just pulled that info from someone's blog ;)

EDIT: I also think you need to be a member of the Capcom unity site or you aren't eligible.Ah, never mind. If it was like $15 I might have tried for it, but not at that price.

[corrosivefrost]

Kotaku reports that they will be $49.95 and that they go on sale tomorrow....but they could have just pulled that info from someone's blog ;)

EDIT: I also think you need to be a member of the Capcom unity site or you aren't eligible.

What's in a kit for $50 and what's a capcom unity site?

[distgfx]

distgfx is too. he's talking about hair coming out of portals and sucker punching a fool.

Shit, I'm caught! Quick, to the bat cave!

the real joke about megaman 9 lies on the graphics. the "hardcore" always rants about the graphics. yet megaman 9 isn't heavy on the graphics. it contradicts the "hardcore" motto.

this backs up nintendo's reasons about graphics, that it's become a commodity. look at dx9 and dx10, you can tell the difference if you stop and look at the games environments and such. but while playing a game you will barely notice a difference.

MM9 is aimed towards those who are dying for a piece of the past MM games. So uh... what is the hardcore motto exactly that you speak of?

[corrosivefrost]

That shit is awesome. What game is it? When is it coming out, if not arleady? I wanna hair punch a fool!

Bayonetta... new Sega game by the guy who made DMC, I think.

[corrosivefrost]

Shit, I'm caught! Quick, to the bat cave!



MM9 is aimed towards those who are dying for a piece of the past MM games. So uh... what is the hardcore motto exactly that you speak of?

Hardcore = people who like to play through DMC and Ninja Gaiden games on the excruciatingly difficult difficulties.... at least to me. If the hardcore crowd loved teh grafix so much, they'd have shunned DMC3, cause it looked like ass.

[Krymner]

Ok, pocha. You make no sense whatsoever. And I really tried to understand, too. I cannot tell if you are a rabid Nintendo fanboy, a Mega Man hater, a hardcore gamer, a goof-ball user, or regalsin.

And this:
3)it's true that the wii is a better version of the wii. but it was for backward compatability. remember xbox and xbox 360? what happened when they changed companies. the backwards compatability of the wii is one of the important parts of nintendo's business models.

The Wii is a better version of the Wii?????

And Xbox and Xbox 360 changed companies????

I am sorry dude. Really. I am.

But http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/Krymner/STFU.jpg

[Dr Mario Kart]

He's talking about the graphics card company change from Nvidia to ATI between the xbox1 and 360, and its effect on BC.

[corrosivefrost]

Ok, pocha. You make no sense whatsoever. And I really tried to understand, too. I cannot tell if you are a rabid Nintendo fanboy, a Mega Man hater, a hardcore gamer, a goof-ball user, or regalsin.

And this:


The Wii is a better version of the Wii?????

And Xbox and Xbox 360 changed companies????

I am sorry dude. Really. I am.

But http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/Krymner/STFU.jpg

I think he meant to confirm what I said, where I asserted that the wii was just a gamecube and a portion of another taped to it. :D That's the reason the BC is just about flawless for N64 gamecube games on the gamecube Wii. It's the same system. With a slightly better GPU, a wireless card, an SD card slot, with integrated gamecube motion control accessory. ;)

[corrosivefrost]

He's talking about the graphics card company change from Nvidia to ATI between the xbox1 and 360, and its effect on BC.

They changed everything though, which is why the 360 does BC via software with updates. Wii does BC via hardware, like the PS3 did originally, doesn't it? That's why, save for a few games with specialized controllers (GH2), BC was pretty much flawless between PS2 and 20/60gb PS3 models.

[blueshinra]

Been lurking. You all are still replying to that guy?

Also, I want to know precisely what's going on in the second Bayonetta pic Jekki posted. Looks like some kind of Sailor Moon/Cutey Honey transformation sequence.

[StarKnightX]

the real joke about megaman 9 lies on the graphics. the "hardcore" always rants about the graphics. yet megaman 9 isn't heavy on the graphics. it contradicts the "hardcore" motto.

What?

I'm guessing what he's trying to say is that hardcore games care about the graphics , yet megaman 9 , which is designed for the hardcore gamers , has really "bad" graphics. however.....

Hardcore = people who like to play through DMC and Ninja Gaiden games on the excruciatingly difficult difficulties.... at least to me. If the hardcore crowd loved teh grafix so much, they'd have shunned DMC3, cause it looked like ass.

This is a more accurate description of a hardcore gamer. Though I can't comment on DMC3 looking like ass.

[distgfx]

I thought DMC3 looked good for a PS2 game...

[Krymner]

Oh. Ok.

Cause either English ain't his native language, or he's too busy gettin high in school. I guess no one's ever taught him to communicate in complete sentences maybe. Who knows.

Guess I'll go play me some DQIV and then take a nap.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

What's in a kit for $50 and what's a capcom unity site?

Capcom Unity is Capcom's community site where they share information about their games and stuff like that.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/

The kit includes a Mega Man 9 "retail" box, a replica NES cartridge (which is a CD case), and a CD with art/trailers/etc. from the game.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/17/capcom-creates-retro-mazing-mega-man-9-packaging/

[blueshinra]

I thought DMC3 looked good for a PS2 game...
Same here. Maybe he meant GTA3?

[distgfx]

Same here. Maybe he meant GTA3?

Naw, he mentioned excrutiating difficulty levels and GTA3 has no difficulty level other than the default of course.

[dmaul1114]

There might not be one, DVD will probably hang on long enough until digital distrubution of movies kill physical discs completely.



I certainly do, people aren't gonna pay $30 for movies and digital distrubution will take over before Blu-ray can get a decent hold in the market.

Yeah, I don't own any Blu-Rays because they're too damned expensive.

DVD is just fine. I'll take a $15 DVD over a $20-30-40 Blu Ray anyday.


I pretty much agree with these. I don't think Blu Ray will die off, but it's not going to remotely supplant DVD as the dominant format. It's just too damn expensive when it just offers better A/V quality (DVDs offered extras, no rewinding, instant scene access etc. over VHS). I can't believe Blu Ray discs are still so expensive vs. DVD.

I have an HDTV and only watch HD programming other than some sports that aren't in HD, but DVD is fine with me. I'm not paying a premium to watch movies in HD as upconverted DVDs look fine to me. When Blu Ray players are $150 or less for decent ones I'll pick one up and at least use it with my Netflix rentals. Discs have to get to around current DVD prices ($15-20 new, with lots of sales after the first few months) for me to start buying movies on BR though.

[blueshinra]

Naw, he mentioned excrutiating difficulty levels and GTA3 has no difficulty level other than the default of course.
Ohhh, good point. I'd forgotten about that. I just mentioned GTA3 since it was very popular with the "hardcore" and looks ugly as sin.

Anyway, DMC3 looks fine, IMO.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Wow, LBP won't load levels and now it froze up.

[corrosivefrost]

Ohhh, good point. I'd forgotten about that. I just mentioned GTA3 since it was very popular with the "hardcore" and looks ugly as sin.

Anyway, DMC3 looks fine, IMO.

I thought DMC3 was horrible, graphics wise. Blocky and jaggy as all hell. To me, the original looked better.
Granted, it may have been that I was playing on a PS3 on a 42" LCD... but MGS3, We <3 Katamari, and Castlevania: LoI all looked decent.

[corrosivefrost]

Wow, LBP won't load levels and now it froze up.

Make sure you wear a condom and get yourself checked afterwards. LBP has been known to give people chlymedia or gonnoreaha or syphilis. :-#

[Foo228]

What are you looking to gameshare?

Totally messed with some people on a round of the building. They were being loud, so we knocked and told them that we received an anonymous tip that they had cocaine and alcohol. They shit kittens! Had to have been there and what not... :lol:

Almost anything. If you could, give me a pm with the games you have and the price you want to gameshare for (in paypal $ or cash monies)

[distgfx]

I thought DMC3 was horrible, graphics wise. Blocky and jaggy as all hell. To me, the original looked better.
Granted, it may have been that I was playing on a PS3 on a 42" LCD... but MGS3, We <3 Katamari, and Castlevania: LoI all looked decent.

Mystery solved gang.

[KingBroly]

I picked up Final Fantasy IV DS for about a half hour today (Amazon lightning deal) and it seems good. I played a bit of the GBA one a couple of years ago and thought it was good.

I know people rag on Final Fantasy a lot, but when it comes to music, they are truly masters of the RPG realm.

[ninja dog]

forget i ever mentioned it. there are too many literal people here.

:lol:

who the hell is this clown?

[zewone]

Inufaye.

[Jest]

Hey guys. Guess what I want to do right now. Play games. Big surprise there. I'm actually coding in COBOL. This fucking sucks.

[daroga]

Ugh, had pizza for lunch. I need to workout, but I more feel like I should just take a nap. :P

[I_Am_ProZac]

Hey guys. Guess what I want to do right now. Play games. Big surprise there. I'm actually coding in COBOL. This fucking sucks.

Ew. That language really just needs to be dropped.

[gunm]

your face is a portal.

your face is a lie!!!


http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/917/917808/bayonetta-20081008093439756.jpg

OMG, it's Kekko Kamen the game! I want this now MOAR THAN EVAR!!!!111!

[corrosivefrost]

Mystery solved gang.

Not exactly -- the rest of the games I mentioned didn't look anywhere near as bad as DMC3. I haven't popped Odin Sphere in yet, but I anticipate no problems there either, and Okami looked fine too.

[Kendal]

Disgaea DS=awesome.

[Jest]

Gun, Is That Bayonetta?

[gunm]

Is it bad if the first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning was, "can I get a game of NBA2K09 in before work"? I wish b-ball season would start already so I can check out how the Living Rosters work. :p

[gunm]

Gun, Is That Bayonetta?


Sure is.




Or the latest Sarah Palin-themed porno, depending on your preference.

[ninja dog]

Not exactly -- the rest of the games I mentioned didn't look anywhere near as bad as DMC3. I haven't popped Odin Sphere in yet, but I anticipate no problems there either, and Okami looked fine too.

2D games all look pretty clean upscaled. Okami's style also lends itself to looking good upscaled. A plain 3D game like DMC3 will show some jaggies and stuff....but the game looks fine on an SDTV. It's not an overly jaggy game.

[Jest]

Has Platinum Games Ever Done Anything Awesome? They Dont Sound Familiar.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Platinum Games is new on the block. When Capcom dissolved Clover, they formed Seeds, Inc, which is now Platinum Games.

[JEKKI]

whoo! MegaMan 9 press kit!!!

$63.02 after tax n shipping!!!

NEVER.MIND.

-_-...

[distgfx]

whoo! MegaMan 9 press kit!!!

$63.02 after tax n shipping!!!

NEVER.MIND.

-_-...

I like the press kit but not that much.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Disgaea DS=awesome.
It's an ok port from what I have played. Which sadly wasn't that much... I burnt myself out on SRPGs playing Disgaea 3 when my 360 died.

[DarthPuma]

I need to get Disgaea 3 one of these days.

Playing KoF again today. Still having a ton of fun, but still wanting a stick badly.

[Krymner]

Wow. Just played the Valkyria Chronicles demo. It is awesome and I want this game now. What a great new take on the whole turn-based tactical RPG. Its on the European PSN now, btw, so you'll have to use a European account if you wanna try it out yourself. If you're a fan of the genre, I would recommend giving it a spin.

[daroga]

Hmm, if real life mirrors my Madden playing, Monday night is going to be painful. :(

[Chacrana]

Three day weekend this weekend (that sounded redundant), so I'z at home, and that means no Witcher.

But that's okay! Because my Dreamcast game got here and wasn't even mangled or nothin'. I would take a picture, but I'm lazy, so I'll just say it: It's Border Down. Hell yeah. It was expensive, but I felt like I got a deal, given what it usually goes for new. So yeah. Gonna play that tonight, tho I gotta schedule around The Office.

Also kinda wanna try out Dino Crisis... or Mars Matrix. But definitely Border Down tonight.

[DarthPuma]

God dammit I knew I'd miss those fucking Press kits.

Played like 2 seconds of warhead since I have sound. It's okay I guess, doesn't seem that special.

Probably some Burnout in a bit. Might open rhapsody. How much less will it be worth when I open it and play it for 5 seconds to find out I hate it/

[nyprimus4]

I'm at my Aunt's house and they have a shit load of DVD's so I've been ripping movies onto my Macbook then compressing/converting them in anticipation of the iTouch.

[DarthPuma]

I'm at my Aunt's house and they have a shit load of DVD's so I've been ripping movies onto my Macbook then compressing/converting them in anticipation of the iTouch.

You're making me soo jealous lol. I have enough cash to get one just not enough paypal.

[daroga]

I'm at my Aunt's house and they have a shit load of DVD's so I've been ripping movies onto my Macbook then compressing/converting them in anticipation of the iTouch.And you're borrowing the physical movies as well, right? I'd hate to think you were making copies of movies you don't own...

[ninja dog]

And you're borrowing the physical movies as well, right? I'd hate to think you were making copies of movies you don't own...


borrowing vs. ripping to watch...what's the difference? :lol:

[corrosivefrost]

2D games all look pretty clean upscaled. Okami's style also lends itself to looking good upscaled. A plain 3D game like DMC3 will show some jaggies and stuff....but the game looks fine on an SDTV. It's not an overly jaggy game.

What about God of War 2?

[daroga]

borrowing vs. ripping to watch...what's the difference? :lol:One is legal, one isn't. If he borrows the disc, there can't be simultaneous viewings on one copy, which is a principle behind the idea of fair use. I should be able to make copies of things I own, but not distribute them so that my copying enables more people to watch it at a time than could with the original copy.

It's the same reason that the Windows XP EULA allows an install on a laptop and a desktop, assuming you wouldn't use both at the same time (use the desktop at home, the laptop on the road).