No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle -- January 2010 Release in Japan

[Ecofreak]

I wasn't super fanatic about the game, but I'm interested to see how they improve upon the original.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41032.html

The updated beam saber design is appreciated, and I wonder if the trailer choppiness is intentional or problem w/ the upload.

Release date is tentatively January 2010 (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/17/no-more-no-more-heroes-until-2010/)

Game details provided by GoNintendo (Thanks to j.elles for pointing it out)
- first sequel Grasshopper has done
- urge to make another game with Travis motivated the team
- Travis is motivated by revenge in the sequel
- Travis will take a more serious approach to fighting this time
- Team from NMH1 is involved with NMH2


Interview from Eurogamer (http://gonintendo.com/?p=59724) (Thanks to j.elles for pointing it out)

” (Suda on the game’s tone) I think it’s time for No More Heroes to become serious. But it’s going to have humour, don’t worry. It won’t be too serious.

” (Suda on the open world from NMH) I wasn’t that satisfied with the open world. I wanted to make a lot more stuff, more detail. So this time in No More Heroes 2, I want to take my revenge. And actually, the theme of No More Heroes 2 is revenge, so…”

” (Suda talking about an old E3 experience) For example, you had those booth babes that were just distributing some stuff - and I saw they were distributing condoms too. And then they were throwing pants! When I saw that I was like, wow! That’s great. One day, I want to be able to throw pants to the public. That’s one of my main goals.”

[KingBroly]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/droogie6655321/onoz_omg2.gif

[j.elles]

I can see why people didn't like what happened if you failed a mission, but I personally thought it fit the with the style and feel Suda was going for very well. But then again i'm a guy who loves Killer 7 with all it's faults as well.

Day 1 buy for me of course. If this has Wii motion plus that will be killer.

[dyeknom]

Hopefully they fix the pathing and things to do in the overworld. Pretty lame you can run into a person and your bike just stalls or glitches.

[Strell]

Make everything smoother/less washed out, put in WM+ to make melee combat more inventive, and spruce up the overworld with more things to look at/do.

There. A great games becomes awesome.

I'm mostly glad it sold enough to warrant a sequel, given the absolute incoming-abortion it was in Japan.

Oh yes. Nintendo - just buy out Grasshopper and/or Marvelous. Just do it.

[blackbird3216]

They should really buy Platinum games.

[JEKKI]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/sambao/fap.gif

[pygmy carnotaur]

Ok, this... is awesome. The first is easily one of my favorite Wii games, despite all it's flaws, and this time it should be even better if they work on what was weak in the first one. Definitely will buy this day 1.

[JEKKI]

http://i36.tinypic.com/v6q6wm.gif

[BlueLobstah]

This is good news.

The actual point of the game was fantastic. I hope they improve on the overworld (if any) for the second time around. Even if they don't, I'd still buy the game in a heartbeat.

[j.elles]

I remember a month after the game released amid VGcharz and their often times questionable numbers and Joystiq/Kotaku esque sites bashing the games sales the publisher and developer were reportedly celebrating the games sales, and really happy. Which at the time I thought odd and contrary to news i'd heard. This added to the frequent changes in their numbers make me unsure of that site now.

Looks like the Wii's library is really shaping up better then a lot of people thought it would. I for one have more games in 2009 for Wii that i'm looking forward too then any other system

[botticus]

:whee::whee::whee::whee::whee::whee::whee::whee:

[DarkSageRK]

Looks like the Wii's library is really shaping up better then a lot of people thought it would. I for one have more games in 2009 for Wii that i'm looking forward too then any other system

I could only see this happening if you only had a Wii and would not be able to purchase any games on the PS3/360.

Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe you're the intended audience for Let's Tap or Let's Catch.


This news is all right for me. I'll probably have to pick up the first one if this starts looking especially badass.

[bardockkun]

FINALLY Favorite Wii game getting the sequel it deserves.

[meerkatgamer]

Good news I really enjoyed the first NMH hopefully this'll be just as good and with wiimotion+ that'd be great. :drool:

[hero101]

This definitely might be good. I hope the animation get less choppy and for a better interactive overworld.

[j.elles]

I could only see this happening if you only had a Wii and would not be able to purchase any games on the PS3/360.

Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe you're the intended audience for Let's Tap or Let's Catch.


This news is all right for me. I'll probably have to pick up the first one if this starts looking especially badass.

A bit off topic so lets restrict it to here. Heres my 2009 Wii list of buy/ maybe rent if im short on cash games. I own every system including a high end PC rig by the way.


Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Rune Factory Frontier
Arc Rise Fantasia
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga
No More Heroes 2 (of course)
Monster Hunter 3 Tri
The Conduit
Tenchu 4
Fragile
Sin & Punishment 2
Dynamic Slash
Mad World
Overlord Dark Legend
Pikmin 3
Punch Out Wii
Untitled New tales game
Trace Memory 2

A lot of the games announced are pretty recent so I can understand if you haven't heard of some of these games though. Like I said Wii is really shaping up to have an outstanding 2009.

[RelentlessRolento]

fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blackbird3216]

you forgot sonic black knight.

[EXStrike]

:whee: :whee: :whee: :whee: :whee:

[hero101]

you forgot sonic black knight.
Avoid...I'm staying away from sonic with a sword....He might bite me at night...:booty:

[j.elles]

you forgot sonic black knight.


I might get Black knight if it's good but it's not on my personal list yet.

[RelentlessRolento]

even if this game only had a new story but same exact gameplay and engine, I'd still go batshit crazy like I am now.

[DarkSageRK]

Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Rune Factory Frontier
Arc Rise Fantasia
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga
No More Heroes 2 (of course)
Monster Hunter 3 Tri
The Conduit
Tenchu 4
Fragile
Sin & Punishment 2
Dynamic Slash
Mad World
Overlord Dark Legend
Pikmin 3
Punch Out Wii
Untitled New tales game
Trace Memory 2

A lot of the games announced are pretty recent so I can understand if you haven't heard of some of these games though. Like I said Wii is really shaping up to have an outstanding 2009.

I've been following TGS too. Of those, I'm only interested in three of them. I have a feeling you're in for some harsh disappointment. Or maybe I'm wrong and they'll all be super amazing. That'd be a nice case, as maybe I could finally get some use of "ol' dusty."

[Strell]

So because he's interested in games you aren't, he's somehow wrong and "in for harsh disappointement."

That's good logic you got going there.

[RelentlessRolento]

what? opinion? on the internet? never.

[j.elles]

I've been following TGS too. Of those, I'm only interested in three of them. I have a feeling you're in for some harsh disappointment. Or maybe I'm wrong and they'll all be super amazing. That'd be a nice case, as maybe I could finally get some use of "ol' dusty."

I could go into detail about the developer, and the previous game about why i'm looking forward to most of the games I listed but to each his own. I think you will be pleasently surprised.

Anyway that's what Gamefly is for my friend. ^_- Try something if you have doubt. For me most of those are buy. If I dont like I find Ebay to be an easier and cheaper method then rental to try games.

[RelentlessRolento]

cum on the walls...

[PhoenixT]

I dunno I liked the first one but it wasn't the most amazing game ever really *shrugs* I'd probably give part two a shot I just hope its a little more coherent this time. Travis's interaction with the girl in the thing flip flopped like mad it got really annoying.

[RelentlessRolento]

I can't say anything but that I still own my wii because of NMH. if it weren't for that it would've been gone a long time ago.

[KingBroly]

Is this confirmed for Wii, though?

D S - Right here
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[CouRageouS]

One of the few Wii games I've actually finished. Boner alert.

[Ikohn4ever]

Some of the best boss characters in any game in recent memory, hopefully we got some Wiimotion, and possibly a duel mode with a friend might be interesting if done right.

[RelentlessRolento]

Is this confirmed for Wii, though?

D S - Right here
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yeah, as soon as I heard the name I thought the same. either way I'm in.

[j.elles]

Can't believe I forgot House of the Dead Overkill, and Fatal Frame 4. I love those games.

Anyway, It's just a coincidence with the DS thing. Some Genesis games had Super in the title afterall. It's just speculation.

The characters wouldn't have been so detailed if it were DS anyway. Even with cut scenes I don't think DS can do stuff like that.

That being said using somethingl ike the Ninja Gaiden engine I could easily see No More Heroes on DS as well as Wii. I'd get it.

[Sofa King Kool]

I really hope they make it 480p this time.

I'll be buying it day one, regardless.

[Cao Cao]

STRAWBERRY ON THE SHORTCAKE!

Awesome news.

[Autumn Star]

I'm kind of disappointed with this news.
First of all, don't get me wrong, I LOVED NMH. I played and beat it - twice.
It seems to me though, that a sequel isn't really SUDA 51's style. Honestly, I'm going to buy this day 1, but I was kind of hoping for something new out of Suda. Sure, the first game ended on a cliff hanger, but I thought it ended perfectly the way it was without needing a sequel.

[botticus]

Confirmed for Wii! :D

Release date: January 2010 :-(

[Purple Flames]

FUCK YES x 1000000000000

This was my second favorite Wii game after Twilight Princess, and I'm super excited about it getting a sequel.

[pete5883]

I just realized Desperate Struggle abbreviates to DS. Dear god, no.

[chair_home]

Confirmed for Wii! :D

Release date: January 2010 :-(

Yep. From the Japanese Press Release. Its not even announced for JP in that press release. As someone pointed out at NeoGAF, I think the DS subtitle was Suda being funny. And it is.

[MCalvert1]

http://i36.tinypic.com/v6q6wm.gif

I see now that the gorilla and shark are high fiving each other, but at first glance I thought the gorilla was dragon punching the shark. Laughed my ass off for about 2 mins straight at the thought. And I'm at work.

MjC

[SoulReaver]

Get Rid Of The Open-world Gameplay!

[The Crotch]

Yay! October Christmas!

...

Just don't be on the DS!

[Yaxley]

Awesomeness. I have the sudden urge to go replay the first one again right now.

[dmunkee]

Nice!

...I'm charging my lightsaber just thinking about it.

[crystalklear64]

Finally something new to actually look forward to. Thank you 3rd parties.

[j.elles]

No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle confirmed for Wii and January 2010 in America (http://gonintendo.com/?p=58658)

Theres the link for those who want to see it all official like.

[Cao Cao]

You can see the video of Suda's presentation at GameKyo:
http://gamekyo.com/videoen13311_no-more-heroes-2-the-video-announcement-by-suda-51.html

[jlseal]

I should probably finish the first one by then. I hope. Still AWESOME news.

[crystalklear64]

Good to see it is indeed for Wii, bad to see its not out till 2010...

[Filler2001]

:whee:............That said, 2010 as a release date makes me sad :cry:

Ah well, this is a day one purchase for me, I only wonder how The Sir Henry vs. Travis fight ended (ie is it even over?)

Also, that music score kicks ass

[Dr Mario Kart]

They shouldve waited on the announcement if it was really going to be a 2010 release. E3 or TGS next year wouldve been better.

[j.elles]

I'd personally be worried if the game was going to come out sooner. Adding a full city envionment with tons of stuff to do and working on stuff like Wii motion Plus will take the year+ development time this is getting.

About 15 months added to whenever they started making this means that they will have more then enough time to actually do this product right.

[D4rkewolfe]

I have the first one...and still have yet to play it. At least no rush before the sequel comes out >.>;;

[KingBroly]

I have the first one...and still have yet to play it. At least no rush before the sequel comes out >.>;;

WRONG! YOU PLAY IT NAO!

*gets in his car and rushes to D4rkewolfe's house with a shotgun

[RelentlessRolento]

:whee:............That said, 2010 as a release date makes me sad :cry:

Ah well, this is a day one purchase for me, I only wonder how The Sir Henry vs. Travis fight ended (ie is it even over?)

Also, that music score kicks ass


I bet Henry is still alive... they're brothers and make good rivals

[Sofa King Kool]

Awesomeness. I have the sudden urge to go replay the first one again right now.


Same. Good thing I have a three day weekend.

Nice!

...I'm charging my lightsaber just thinking about it.


..hehe......

[bardockkun]

I'm already excited just for the thoughts of a new NMH soundtrack with this.

[The Crotch]

Same. Good thing I have a three day weekend.
You're Canadian there, Sofa?

[j.elles]

New information reported. I think these things were obvious to those who played the first one. But it's good to see some confirmation. Travis is likely to be very angry in this sequal. Also really good to see it's the same team.

- first sequel Grasshopper has done
- urge to make another game with Travis motivated the team
- Travis is motivated by revenge in the sequel
- Travis will take a more serious approach to fighting this time
- Team from NMH1 is involved with NMH2

http://gonintendo.com/?p=58831

[The Crotch]

Travis... more angry? I thought he was going to choke on his own bile half-way through the first game.

[bardockkun]

I'd hardly say he was angry in the first one, being that he was on a quest to get laid in the first game all the way to the last top ranked assassin I want to say.

[Sir_Fragalot]

zomg x 1000

can I just preorder this shit right now? :D:D:D:D:D:D

[AllTimeLow_RS]

ok so i never actually played the original, but i was very interested to do so. however, when i found out that the controls were not 1:1 i was a bit turned away to the game. now, with nintendo releasing information on the wii motion plus a few months back, it gives more promise to games like this one. lets hope suda 51 and company incorporate this feature into their game and let us play the sequel the way it should be played

[The Crotch]

Man, any more reliance on movement than what the first game had is a little scary. Swinging for every attack in some of those money fights would just be too tiring.

...

Hmm? Don't do every swing as hard as conceivably possible?

...

Get the fuck out of here, Commie.

[crystalklear64]

1:1 motion would be cool, but it'd be a good extra control option, not the standard.

[j.elles]

"Taking place three years after the end of the first title, No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle sees hero Travis Touchdown embark on a mission of revenge following the murder of his best friend. Featuring improvements to the game engine and graphics, Suda51 also promises a far busier Santa Destroy, much darker tone and also a few surprises to come."

Source (http://gonintendo.com/?p=59146)

Sounds great.

[RelentlessRolento]

who's his friend? thunder ryu?

[Dr Mario Kart]

1:1 should be the standard. If you're going to do it, the game should be designed around it for maximum results.

This illustrates the problem of bringing out the motion+ now. Its divisive to the base.

[j.elles]

The potential list is

-Doctor Naomi ( most likely not)
-Thunder Ryu or someone from before when Travis was into Wrestling
-Randall Lovikov aka drunken Russian guy (possibly but low chance)
-Bishop Shidux (video store owner, very possible since they are good friends and he helps you in the first game)
-Jeane (Travis's pet cat. But that would be too mean, but possible since this is Suda 51)
-Could be a reference to the end of the first game and the true ending. Unlikely, but possible.

I'd say someone killed Bishop Shidux, or someone we don't know. Probably Bishop.
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1:1 should be the standard. If you're going to do it, the game should be designed around it for maximum results.

This illustrates the problem of bringing out the motion+ now. Its divisive to the base.

I really liked the combat in the first game and think that should remain. An option for one to one would be nice, or as an extra combat mode that's seperate but not the focus.

I could see them doing the one to one though as an option for the main game, but I don't care. Either way i'll like it.

As for it seperating the base I don't think that's even a small issue. People who are casual will buy it for Wii sports Resort, and everyone else will buy it because they need it for games like this. Don't worry about developers supporting this Wii motion plus, they will.

[Cao Cao]

The potential list is

-Doctor Naomi ( most likely not)
-Thunder Ryu or someone from before when Travis was into Wrestling
-Randall Lovikov aka drunken Russian guy (possibly but low chance)
-Bishop Shidux (video store owner, very possible since they are good friends and he helps you in the first game)
-Jeane (Travis's pet cat. But that would be too mean, but possible since this is Suda 51)
-Could be a reference to the end of the first game and the true ending. Unlikely, but possible.

I'd say someone killed Bishop Shidux, or someone we don't know. Probably Bishop.

Yeah, I would think that a friend that he would swear revenge for would either be Bishop or Shinobu.

[Cao Cao]

IGN posted a video interview with Suda:
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14288376/no-more-heroes-2/videos/suda51_nmh2_101308.html

It says pretty much the same things that he revealed in his presentation, but he does mention the origin of the Desperate Struggle subtitle. Apparently, it came from an old Japanese gangster movie called Hiroshima: Desperate Struggle. I couldn't find any info about this movie through Google though.

[SoonerMatt]

Yes to the hellz. I just hope they give you more to do outside of the assassinations/part time jobs.

[Sharp Katana]

damn I haven't even opened the first one to play yet. I need to start playing the wii again

[BlueLobstah]

I'm actually hoping we don't see direct 1:1 controls, but rather more accurate controls using the system that is already in place if motion+ is used.

You could theoretically have more than one stance (high/mid/low) and more accurate slashes (left->right, up->down), not to mention being able to select which wrestling move you pull off. For some reason with No More Heroes, it seems that a direct 1:1 mapping to swordplay would lose some of the allure and charm that was in the original title.

In no way am I saying that it should not be used, but rather just enhance the system that is already there.

[j.elles]

Yes to the hellz. I just hope they give you more to do outside of the assassinations/part time jobs.

Suda51 also promises a far busier Santa Destroy,

from my post above. Yeah Suda51/Gresshopper is really going all out with this game I think.

[The Crotch]

I'd say someone killed Bishop Shidux, or someone we don't know. Probably Bishop.

He was getting death threats in the first game...

[meerkatgamer]

Every little tidbit of information on this sequal makes me excited to play it I hope it'll be just as good as the first No More Hero.

I think i'll start up my New Game+ and breat it again reading this thread makes me want to play it again. :drool:

[j.elles]

” (Suda on the game’s tone) I think it’s time for No More Heroes to become serious. But it’s going to have humour, don’t worry. It won’t be too serious.

” (Suda on the open world from NMH) I wasn’t that satisfied with the open world. I wanted to make a lot more stuff, more detail. So this time in No More Heroes 2, I want to take my revenge. And actually, the theme of No More Heroes 2 is revenge, so…”

” (Suda talking about an old E3 experience) For example, you had those booth babes that were just distributing some stuff - and I saw they were distributing condoms too. And then they were throwing pants! When I saw that I was like, wow! That’s great. One day, I want to be able to throw pants to the public. That’s one of my main goals.”

From interview with Eurogamer (http://gonintendo.com/?p=59724)

[The Crotch]

Good news for a change:

As he stood on a noisy stage on the TGS show floor the day before, lapping up the screamed adulation of a contingent of obsessed American journalists, Suda had said that the reason he'd chosen to make his first-ever sequel was that he wanted to revisit Travis. Fair enough - but we suspect it's also because, for once, he'd actually sold some games.

[Z_meista]

awesome!

[RelentlessRolento]

sadly, not when he had the toilet paper and was signing them... :(

[Yungblayz3]

Biggest announcement at TGS IMO

[Snake2715]

Nice!

...I'm charging my lightsaber just thinking about it.

Nice one.. keep it clean!

[Cao Cao]

An interview with Suda appeared in Nintendo Power. He gives some interesting background info about the game's inspiration. He's also going to be the script writer and the executive director, with Toshihiro Fujikawa (An assistant director from NMH) serving as director.

http://tinycartridge.com/post/59870380/suda-not-directing-nmh-2
http://tinycartridge.com/post/59983357/trailer-for-the-yakuza-papers-vol-2-deadly

Also, tinycartridge found a trailer and a clip for Suda's inspiration movie.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=9546983

"Intense" Fight Scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReAJsha87YQ

[RelentlessRolento]

wow that was insane in an awesome way.

the latest EGM has a 2 page interview as well. I'm glad on what he said his stance was on grasshopper.

[The Crotch]

Man. Japan takes ''shirts vs skins'' way too seriously.

[Friend of Sonic]

How well did No More Heroes sell in the US?

[The Crotch]

Marvellous Interactive have published some worldwide shipping/sales figures for Suda's No More Heroes. In Japan, homeland of all parties involved? It's done terribly. Only 40,000 copies have shipped since launch. Ouch. How about America, then? Little better: they've shipped around 200,000 copies, and have sold just over 100,000 since launch. Not bad! Finally, however, they announce some European numbers. And while the game's not even out there yet (it's shipping late Feb/early March across all PAL territories), they're expecting to sell 160,000 units across the continent at launch. Could something finally be coming up roses for Suda? Let's hope so!

That was in mid February. I'll do a bit more Google-ing.

EDIT: No I won't. Fuck this shit, I'm-a go to bed.

[Friend of Sonic]

That was in mid February. I'll do a bit more Google-ing.

EDIT: No I won't. Fuck this shit, I'm-a go to bed.
:lol: Suda deserves more than that though. I hope No More Heroes 2 hits 8 million in the US. Some ridicilous, first party esque number.

[ProfWho]

Just an FYI to those who have not bought NMH yet, Walmart now has it for $20.

[Wolfkin]

Just an FYI to those who have not bought NMH yet, Walmart now has it for $20.

So does Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Heroes-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000X25GW2), with a Terminator (http://www.amazon.com/Terminator-Arnold-Schwarzenegger/dp/B00005N5S5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1227052232&sr=8-1) or T2 for filler that's no shipping no tax and you get Linda Hamilton

[Persona7]

Damn it, 2010.

I am desperately awaiting this release.

[TC]

Great news of a sequel. Didn't think we would ever see one.

I wonder what goofey side games there will be in this. The lawn mowing one always cracks me up.

[Wolfkin]

yeah i thought the kitten chaser was funny. that and the FFwd ending.

[RelentlessRolento]

fuckin hot!!!!!!

http://img203.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-11247/loc546/94823_nmh21_122_546lo.jpg
http://img249.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17192/loc546/94824_nmh22_122_546lo.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-15159/loc1016/94825_nmh23_122_1016lo.jpg
http://img263.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-6613/loc359/94830_nmh24_122_359lo.jpg


dual swords!

Stereo bosses!!!

[EXStrike]

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m396/EXStrike/Weekly%20Famitsu/052909/nmhmoecr1.jpg

(goddammit rolento, you beat me)

[Kyattsuai]

Seems Nathan Copeland's arm transform into a jambox. Also, does it say there that he's ranked #50?! How many assassins are in this one?

[Cao Cao]

The scan images aren't showing up, but luckily GoNintendo posted the scans on their server, though I think true-gaming might post some higher quality versions later on:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=83907
(Wii @ Everyday (http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/))

(Some NMH Ending spoilers)
- YAY! Dual-wielding Katanas
- Sylvia is back
- Travis looks a bit older, and angrier
- Bishop (From the Video Store) has a gun pointed at his head by some MiBs. Perhaps he's the one who Travis is avenging?
- The UAA is back?
- In a box titled "Next Assassin!?" is a blond-haired schoolgirl playing an instrument under a tree. She is then shown wielding a double-bladed sword. She resembles Sylvia. Jeane!?
- As someone pointed out above, Nathan Copeland, who wields a Stereo that transforms into metal arms (Kinda reminds me of the villain Shriek from Batman Beyond), is ranked at Number 50. My theory for this number is that it may tie into Suda's promise of a more interactive open-world: You'll still have 10 or so main bosses, but the rest of the ranked assassins will be optional "mini-bosses" spread throughout the world.

Next stop is e3. Suda confirmed that it will be at the show, but it will not be playable.

[EXStrike]

I uploaded the scans to my photobucket account in the other (closed) thread http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225514

[Scrubking]

I can't wait for this game. I really hope it has 50 bosses.

[Cao Cao]

Some info in the Famitsu article has been translated.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16017837&postcount=243
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174401
http://wii.ign.com/articles/986/986867p1.html


A few No More Heroes 2 infos :
- Story : it's been 3 years since Travis became the Number One assassin. Santa Destroy is now at the hand of big companies which thanks to massive investments, transformed the small town into a big city. And not only is it the time Sylvia Christel chooses to suddenly reappear into Travis' life as an organisation agent, but his friend Bishop also ends up being involved in a pinch with some bad guys. Just the time for Travis get back to the grind and face some new battles...
- Wrestling moves are back, and along with some fresh dual-wielding swords action, they promise a more varied battle system.
- New characters introduced : an afro dude, Nathan Copeland, ranked 50th on the UAA ranking, and which is apparently a Travis fan ; as well as a mysterious beam-weapon wielding school girl, which seems to be related to Travis somehow.
- Famitsu's website should have a trailer on May 30th, and they'll also start taking applications for a T-shirt design contest.

Travis Touchdown is, in the end, Travis Touchdown -- no more, no less. The last time we saw him (in No More Heroes), he had advanced to ranking number one in the United Assassins Association, making him the biggest big-shot hitman in the entire continental US. In the three years that've passed, though, he's apparently lazed out a little -- his ranking's gone down to 51, and he's still living in his cheap motel room surrounded by anime and pro-wrestling figures.

In the meantime, Travis's hometown of Santa Destroy's been spruced up a bit. It's receiving huge investments from huger corporations intent on making it into a resort hotspot, and the town looks completely different nowadays. Things aren't so rosy for our hero, though: his friend Bishop has just been accosted by gunmen, and Sylvia, the beautiful agent that drove the last game's plot, has just returned to his life, giving him an invitation to return to the assassin business...

No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle, a Wii sequel detailed for the first time in this week's issue of Famitsu magazine, seems to stick to its guns pretty well. The brunt of gameplay still involves waggling the Wiimote around for kicks, running Travis around town and using his beam katana (and innate knowledge of pro wrestling) to dispatch his enemies. A couple screenshots show Travis dual-wielding beam katanas, but otherwise not much has been revealed about what's new gameplaywise.

There's plenty of time left for Goichi Suda and the developers at Grasshopper Manufacture to leak out details, though. The game doesn't have an official release date in Japan or the US yet, although XSEED has already signed a deal for American distribution.

No More Heroes 2 Emerges
Suda 51's super sequel shows face in Famitsu. E3 showing up next!
by John Tanaka

May 27, 2009 - Following its announcement at last year's Tokyo Game Show, all went quiet on No More Heroes Desperate Struggle. That's about to change, it seems. Famitsu has a first report on the game, complete with character, story and gameplay details.

Travis Touchdown and Silvia Chrystel return for the Suda 51 sequel. The new story is set three years after Travis became rank number 1 assassin. Due to heavy investment from large corporations, Santa Destroy has rapidly become a tourist town. One day, Sylvia suddenly appears before Travis and invites him to another assassin ranking battle. At that very moment, Travis's sole friend, Bishop, is seen in somewhat of a pinch as a gang of ruffians take close aim at his head with guns.

What will happen to Bishop? And why has Sylvia appeared before Travis once again?

We're sure these questions and more will be answered as No More Heroes approaches release. For now, here are a few details that we were able to put together on gameplay changes.

Desperate Struggle retains the basic attack controls from the original for everything from Travis's Beam Katana to his wrestling moves. The big new feature from the magazine report is Travis's new dual sword abilities. With two swords in hand, Travis can deal up far more damage.

As with the original, facing off against members of the United Assassins Association (UAA) is one of the main points of the sequel. It looks like there'll be somewhat of a big volume upgrade for Desperate Struggle, as Famitsu provides a look at a fight against the 50th rank!

Nathan Copeland is the name of this low ranking assassin. He's into hip hop -- he even has his own underground label -- and carries around a boom box which can apparently transform into an arm weapon of some form.

Outside of these details, Famitsu confirms a No More Heroes Desperate Struggle showing for E3. But those who want a first look at the game will want to turn their browsers to Famitsu.com on Saturday the 30th, as the site is scheduled to debut the game's E3 video in advance!

That's the 30th Japan time. Famitsu.com often puts up exclusive videos when the clock turns midnight, so it might be good to check the site early, early Saturday morning Japan time.

[KingBroly]

So Shinobu is back, then? Sweet. Hearing that the game is once again in Santa Destroy is a little disappointing. Hopefully they'll use the other side of the bridge this time.

[BlueLobstah]

I just hope they fix the overworld portions of the game, as that was my only real complaint.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm sure the overworld will be better now since it was a concern to Suda at one point.

[Kyattsuai]

It just occurred to me that Travis is ranked #51. 51

clever =^e.e^=

[Cao Cao]

As expected, the folks at Arabic game site True-Gaming (http://www.true-gaming.net/home/?p=1108) put up higher quality versions of the Famitsu scans:
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/nmh.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/nmh2.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/nmh3.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/nmh4.jpg

[EXStrike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phzPzNUwf1Y

[GodlyOne]

:rofl:at the women being thrown at Travis. I somehow forgot how amazing the No More Heroes theme song is.

[Strell]

Trailer looks great, although feels much more serious than the last game. I guess that's the logical progression though. Which isn't bad, it's just that it removes the whole parody element in favor of a mobster tone.

Oh well. Still excited.

[RelentlessRolento]

nice trailer. Travis looks in a few of those shots pretty pissed or just passed a hangover.

The humor is still there (throwing women is a good indication, and the end with sylveria kissing the saber) so no worries. I just expect more linear story this time, which is good.

[Mad D]

http://i43.tinypic.com/dz801s.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/24v8p3s.gif

:lol:

[hero101]

Mad D with those highlights. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

note the end of the trailer... WiiMotion Plus ;)

[Ikohn4ever]

amazing trailer can't wait

[yukine]

Haha, Mad D. Definitely the highlights of the trailer. Big fan of the first game, I love me some of dat Suda action.

[Wolfkin]

- Bishop (From the Video Store) has a gun pointed at his head by some MiBs. Perhaps he's the one who Travis is avenging?i hope not

[Cao Cao]

GameTrailers put up an interesting interview with Suda:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/51551.html

- Pizza Butt is the corporation that took over Santa Destroy.
- May have battles that involve more than one ranked assassin.
- Blonde girl from the trailer is a fan of Travis' who became an assassin to meet him.
- Travis' cat Jeane is back, and she has put on a little weight. There may be a minigame to put her on a diet. Suda hopes to make the interactions with Jeane the Cat even better than UbiSoft's Petz series.
- Better AI, physics engine. Gonna try to "level-up" the fighting engine for more variety. Travis' Schpeltiger motorcycle will also receive some sort of improvement.
- More than 10 boss fights, Suda wouldn't say how many.
- More to do in the motel room, like redecorating.

[RelentlessRolento]

strangely im mostly happy about the pet cat thing... then again it dosnt surprise me since I was one of the few people excited about nintendogs and hamsterz.

[Sir_Fragalot]

You can redecorate your motel room :lol:.

Ok it has now become my most wanted game of 2010. :D

I am not going to bother to look at media for this game, I want it badly enough already, lol.

[cochesecochese]

Freaking amazing. NMH2 is definitely going to be the game that pushes me to re-buy that Wii next year.

[Kyattsuai]

Pizza Butt is still trying to ruin Santa Destroy? Wasn't their CEO murdered about a dozen times in the first game?

[Cao Cao]

Shinobu's back. And she's playable!
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=87147
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_lwb.jpg

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=954479&topic=50145115
Scan: http://i41.tinypic.com/rtkxnk.jpg
Just got the new Nintendo Power in the mail (cover is Mario and Luigi for DS) and it has an article on NMH2 confirming that Shinobu is returning and is playable at certain points in the game. Here's the picture:

http://i41.tinypic.com/rtkxnk.jpg

It also has some other information on the game, some stuff we already knew. Bishop does die, improving combat with more moves/variety, improving city segments, more activities with Jeane the cat.

Some new stuff (I think) is that some assassins will team up on you, lower ranked assassins will challenge you, and the pacing will be different. For example you may fight two or more bosses in a row instead of just returning to the city to get more money for the next fight.

[RelentlessRolento]

nice! pulling a MGS Rising for NMH.

Makes sense though storywise since she was the only assassin to help Travis as well as train under him.

[cochesecochese]

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Thats pretty cool... now I just need to go finish the first one.

[Cao Cao]

Suda confirms in an interview with Edge that, among other things, Travis will be piloting a giant robot at some point:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16501270&postcount=100

Ah Suda.

"It's like taking a shit," says Goichi Suda, Grasshopper Manafacture CEO, as he relaxes on his (office) seat. We blink first. "A lot of things influenced No More Heroes - things I saw, or heard, and something that came from inside. Something that needed to be eliminated from my body, like waste. That's why I created No More Heroes.
Edge goes on to write about how his colleagues are smirking and his translator becomes hesitant. "...No More Heroes 2? New taking-a-shit."

Suda claims the AI has been improved and enemies will now attack depending on their class and weapon, being ranged or more up in your face. They say the dual beam katana is pretty and the animation is suitably awesome with "effortless style". "It's a spectacle as much as a slaughter."

On secondary playable characters: They'll each have their own style and cool factor. Will Travis be overshadowed? Hardly. "He gets to pilot a giant robot! This lets you fight on a larger scale - there will be plenty more variety as well."

The game's city has been scaled back a little bit, improved visually with motion blur and HDR lighting. Suda says it's closer to the game he wanted to deliver originally. Edge says the city is a lot more lively and the streets more populated. He describes it as one-and-a-half times the original.

Regarding mini games: "The reason that I put these elements in is that it's a challenge to make a game," says Suda, "and so I want too make the player feel challenges to even play the game... Travis has to work..." it's a principle that, according to Suda, permeates his games.

On No More Heroes as a franchise: "I think this is the last NMH that is going to be developed on Wii. To expand NMH to new possibilities, we need a new platform. Wii is a great platform, but we've done everything we can with it now."

Great article, I laughed a bunch, I recommend picking up the issue or reading it in full on Edge-Online. There is a No More Heroes spoiler in the second to last paragraph if you want to read the rest Dabookerman.

[Rocko]

So, so, so excited for this.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm actually intrigued that Suda mentions to expand the game after part 2... would pretty amazing on a higher grade system.

[cochesecochese]

Any release window yet?

[rocky435]

I'd love to see the motion controls kept if it moves to something like a 360/PS 3 they both have their own motion controls now so it would hopefully keep that aspect of the gaming. Perhaps it could be on the wii but the wiihd if it's power matches the current gen consoles. It's kinda hard for me to imgine this game without motion since it relies so heavily on them. I mean if this uses motion plus and it ends even better then the first one it will be hard to go back to using a controller.

Overall natal would be amazing seeing people play the game trying to pull something like recharging your beam katana with your own "motions", perfect example for natal's technology :lol:

[The 7th Number]

Looks cool, and shinobu returns, thats awesome. She was one of my favorite characters in #1.

[Wolfkin]

I'm depressed to hear that Suda wants to move off the Wii. I can understand why and all but it's depressing anyway

[RelentlessRolento]

Depressing? There's gotta be a story behind this.

[Wolfkin]

no story. I like my Wii, and i don't have a 360 and since it's ridiculous to think that Suda ran out of ideas for the Wii (http://www.edge-online.com/news/no-more-heroes-will-%E2%80%9Cneed-a-new-platform%E2%80%9D). It's obviously a case of "I need money"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg1GGhugbo

[KingBroly]

Maybe Ubisoft could actually fit the bill next time? They feel as if they own the IP even though they didn't do a thing to promote the first one.

[RelentlessRolento]

It's not a case of "I need money" but more like just a different option and different taste. U got a PS3 anyway so why you sad?

[Wolfkin]

I still maintain that it's Wii copies not selling enough. You /can/ build a franchise on a Nintendo console. Animal Crossing, Def Jam, Viewtiful Joe, Crystal Chronicles: These were all birthed on the cube (some spread). I can't think of any Franchises (born in this gen) that have proven themselves with multiple iterations (maybe Forza). So that leaves money.*

And with that premise when you need to make money are you really going to go with the PS3 over the 360? Of course in this same hypothetical it doesn't make much sense to go exclusive, I just don't like seeing the Wii library's percentage of non-suckitude games shrink. Every game counts.

It's mostly academic at this point as this is still just thoughts/discussion/rumors/speculation. We'll see what happens if he really does the switch.

*also wild speculation/thoughts

[yukine]

I don't really see it as Suda wanting more money, I think he is thinking more in terms of a game designer. Where he wants to be able to create games he envisions that would require the hardware that only the 360 and Playstation 3 can provide.

And I don't think he will completely abandon the Wii, especially with the potential that the Wii Motion Plus provides, as I'm sure he still has great ideas for that platform. This doesn't have to be a "one or the other" scenario.

[pochaccoheaven]

i'm glad he's leaving. no more heroes was an awful game. no more heroes is as bad as the other shovelware that are on the wii. he should have made this game for the 360/ps3, instead of making it for the wii.

[EXStrike]

i'm glad he's leaving. No more heroes was an awful game. No more heroes is as bad as the other shovelware that are on the wii. He should have made this game for the 360/ps3, instead of making it for the wii.

gtfo.

[RelentlessRolento]

i'm glad he's leaving. no more heroes was an awful game. no more heroes is as bad as the other shovelware that are on the wii. he should have made this game for the 360/ps3, instead of making it for the wii.


:lol: I like how the number 0 and this statement have equal value.

[Wolfkin]

i'm glad he's leaving. no more heroes was an awful game. no more heroes is as bad as the other shovelware that are on the wii. he should have made this game for the 360/ps3, instead of making it for the wii.while it could be argued that it's over hyped. As flawed as it is it's no where near the level of shovelware that's in the Wii library. Aside from retracing my steps I had a blast.

[pochaccoheaven]

i hope he continues his work of no more heroes on the ps3/360 to continue his heritage of crap on new territory. the 360/ps3 player will love his crap work on gore, violence and sex. let him feed those people "cheesy" food.

[Monsta Mack]

Ok I'm confused.

On the general gaming thread didn't four of you guys say NMH2 was going to the DS? I still see the Wii topic here. What's the official word? Still 2010 Japan for Wii?

I trusted you guys on GGT that it was going to DS. lol.

*confused*

[RelentlessRolento]

Ok I'm confused.

On the general gaming thread didn't four of you guys say NMH2 was going to the DS? I still see the Wii topic here. What's the official word? Still 2010 Japan for Wii?

I trusted you guys on GGT that it was going to DS. lol.

*confused*


:lol: It was intentionally confusing...

by DS I meant Desperate Struggle... ;)

[Chronis]

So if NMH moves to another console, isn't the PS3 the perfect choice? For what it's worth, Natal and Sony's thing are both extra peripherals that would need to be bought. I don't think that's the way you want to start up a series on a new console. BUT, people forgot because it's used for absolutely nothing.... the Sixaxis/DS3 have motion controls built in. Think about it, the first NMH's control scheme would translate PERFECTLY to the Sixaxis.

[RelentlessRolento]

Suda already has a 360 and PS3 game on the way so I say hold your judgment till you see what those turn out as. I expect those to be a little more realistic.

[Monsta Mack]

Damn I got owned by the GGT. You bastards.

[RelentlessRolento]

It's my fault, srry. I fucked around too much >_<

You can beat me with a stick if you please.

[Strell]

He uses a crowbar. Not a stick.

[RelentlessRolento]

I prefer large mallet.

[EXStrike]

HENRY IS PLAYABLE

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=19430

“It’s still too early to tell you everything about the game, but firstly we’re going to have more than one playable character - as the scenario unfolds, Shinobu and Henry will become playable and will bring their own styles and cool factor”.hype hype hype hype

[RelentlessRolento]

nice... interesting to see a video store clerk playable.

[Cao Cao]

HENRY IS PLAYABLE

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=19430

hype hype hype hype

It'll be great to play as Sir Henry AKA The Flying Irishman AKA Mr. Sir Henry Assclown Motherfucker.

[EXStrike]

nice... interesting to see a video store clerk playable.

Henry's not the video store clerk; that's Bishop.

Henry's the Irish mutherfucker that you had to fight for the True Ending

[RelentlessRolento]

Oh nevermind :lol:

henry was probably the only guy as badass as travis, but seeing as they are bothers, that's awesome.

[cochesecochese]

i'm glad he's leaving. no more heroes was an awful game. no more heroes is as bad as the other shovelware that are on the wii. he should have made this game for the 360/ps3, instead of making it for the wii.
No.

[Wolfkin]

Henry's not the video store clerk; that's Bishop.

Henry's the Irish mutherfucker that you had to fight for the True Ending
FOR the true ending or IN the true ending. It's been a long time for me.

the Sixaxis/DS3 have motion controls built in. Think about it, the first NMH's control scheme would translate PERFECTLY to the Sixaxis.perfectly? I don't see that. maybe it would work maybe not but it wouldn't be as 'fitting' as the wii controls were. there were wrestling attacks where you split directions.

[Chronis]

^^Ok, good point. / Lets talk more about NMH2 guys bump!

[Rocko]

I've recently started New Game + on Bitter since I can't wait for this game. It's tough.

[Lone_Prodigy]

Finished it on the weekend. Only took a little over 10 hours, but I think I was on the easiest difficulty. The ending was awesome. One of the best games on the Wii.

[Chronis]

Yeah, I played it on Mild the first time, and it got pretty hard towards the end. Then a few months ago, I started up a game on Bitter. It was pretty hard but there were only a few spots where it was insanely noticable. The kill the Pizza Butt CEO/kill everyone without getting hit missions were much harder, but the part that absolutely broke me.... Henry. It ended up taking me about 45 minutes on the round I finally beat him because I didn't want to take any risks. And even then, towards, the end, I got anxious and almost died. I've been meaning to start up a game on sweet and play through that with just the Bloodberry, but I eventually got distracted with Killer 7 (or should I say... Killer 8!) and Samurai Champloo: Sidetracked.

Edit.... apparantly I completely missed a sentence....

[Rocko]

Hell, I couldn't even do the don't get hit missions on Sweet (which was my first difficulty). Pizza Butt was easy on Sweet, but it's a real bitch on Bitter. I have some cash as of now left over to buy into the assassinations on Bitter (just beat Shinobu), but once I run out of the leftover money I think my best bet is to do the baseball missions for money.

[Chronis]

@_@ I was actually talking about Bitter for most of my post but I forgot to mention it.

Anyway, gamble fight is pretty good to make money on. But on bitter, it's pretty hard, so have to make sure not to die. And I'd definitely suggest using the mkII.

[Strell]

Some new details emerged today, (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/nomoreheroesdesperatestruggle/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-50748340&pid=954479) including:

- each fight ends with a 2d Travis walking across the screen to hop onto the Schpeletiger, which is accompanied by a new old-school chiptune


Hug.

[BlueLobstah]

Only a portion of the original city will be traveled, based on fan responses on the first game. The streets and sidewalks will be much more busier and cars will "get out of the way" of Travis' bike. There are construction signs and lights everywhere. One of the fighting grounds will be a "new school", "construction yard", and a graveyard. Not sure if the school is new in the sense that it is an additional one to the Santa Destroy High School or if it is just a remodeled SDHS.


Hell yes. More bosses and less overworld. It sounds like they're taking everything from the first game, and making it even more awesome.

The overworld was one of my few complaints about NMH, so it is good to see they're taking that into account. Even while it may be smaller, I do like that they're going to make it more interactive and responsive to player actions.

[twztid13]

I can see why people didn't like what happened if you failed a mission, but I personally thought it fit the with the style and feel Suda was going for very well. But then again i'm a guy who loves Killer 7 with all it's faults as well.

Day 1 buy for me of course. If this has Wii motion plus that will be killer.

agree with all.

suda did say in interview (GS i think) that u would still control light katana with the A button. dont have time 2 find link, sorry.

[Cao Cao]

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle will be playable on the show floor at PAX (Starts September 4th).
http://kotaku.com/5347699/no-more-heroes-2-playable-at-pax-09

[Cao Cao]

New trailer from IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/102/1021425p1.html) starring Suda himself (With what must clearly be his actual voice, yup yup):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LLpbmcvn8w

Side Jobs are now 8-bit Retro games. Tapping the B button now allows Travis to perform a punch/kick combo.

[RelentlessRolento]

yeah jsut saw it a hour ago... loving the 2d games.

[The 7th Number]

Looks cool. One reason to keep my wii.

This game doesnt need wii motion plus does it?

[Nohbdy]

There was news that it might support it.

[Monsta Mack]

I think I should pre-order this just because the first one owned, plus I only paid $20 for it.
Would love to support em and get a NMH3 out of it.

[Bavgate]

http://www.giantbomb.com/almost-ten-minutes-of-no-more-heroes-2/17-1320/

Ten minutes of gameplay. Looking awesome!

[Cao Cao]

1up is doing a NMH2 weeklong special, with a variety of features planned:
http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3176087

First up is some new info from their "7 things" article:
- More information about the other two playable characters Shinobu, who has been away in Asia becoming the top fighter there, is Travis' assistant and possible love interest. She is playable for the Million Gunman and New Destroyman stages. Sir Henry's stages were not mentioned, but they revealed that Dashing is his special ability.
- No MotionPlus support.
- There will be Classic Controller support.

[JEKKI]

dang I gotta buy one of those japanese classic controllers.

the standard one is balls... so unergonomic...

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm with you on that JEKKI...

[Persona7]

I want a toilet paper preorder bonus. Or at least SOMETHING cool.

Also, YEAH GAS STATION MINI GAME GRINDING ON BITTER. aww Yeah.

Going for my 4th play-through, second time on bitter.

[EXStrike]

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3176118

New interview as part of 1up weeklong special

-January is sexy action month with NMH2 and Bayonetta
-Travis story wraps up in NMH2
-next NMH won't be on Wii because it'll be on the next-gen Nintendo console

[Mad D]

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3176118


So the No More Heroes franchise will stay with Nintendo from what's in that article. Maybe he's hoping Travis will get in the next Smash Brothers :lol:

I'd like to see what different series he'll end up creating for the other systems since it looks like he's going with that direction too.

[Persona7]

Hey, Atleast I have a reason to buy the next Nintendo system.

[Cao Cao]

1Up finished off their NMH2 week by posting three gameplay videos. One features Shinobu, and the other two focus on the side-jobs.
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=97819

[KiloMeda]

Can't wait for the game....its the only wii game I've planned on buying since SSBB and the last NMH.

[Cao Cao]

IGN put up a gameplay trailer of Mr. Sir Henry Assclown Motherfucker

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14288376/no-more-heroes-2/videos/hero2_trl_henry_102109.html

[22percent]

I'm so looking forward to playing as Henry. And since it also has Shinobu playable, I'm very excited for NMH 2 and I haven't been like that for a game's squeal for a while.