Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.atlus.com/res/demonssouls_logo_small.png

About Demon's Souls
King Allant the XII, the last king of Boletaria, searched tirelessly to expand his might. The Nexus, a great ice shrine nestled in the mountains, bestowed the power of the souls onto him, bringing prosperity to his kingdom. Still unsated, he returned again to the Nexus, where he foolishly awakened the Old One from its eternal slumber. This long forgotten evil, now wrought upon Boletaria, plunged the realm into darkness and fog. A mighty demon horde poured into the kingdom, devouring the souls of men.

Champions from other realms learned of Boletaria's fate and sought to deliver the kingdom from evil; none would return from the cursed land. Called upon by a mysterious maiden in black, you go forth, the last hope for humanity in a place lost to demons and darkness...

Key Features


Ultimate hardcore RPG challenge -- In this brutal land, death is inevitable, but not final. Combining the best features of an action game and RPG, you'll slice, smash, shoot, and ensorcel some of the most horrible, vicious enemies ever encountered. Are you strong enough to face the impossible and win?
Groundbreaking online capabilities -- Network features go far beyond any previous RPG, allowing players to leave hints for each other, replay death scenes, cooperatively revive dead players, or invade another player's game to wreak havoc. Not merely an add-on feature, multiplayer options are vast, and uniquely focused on changing and intensifying the single player experience.
Freeform and flexible -- The open-ended structure of the game means that there is no single path, but rather a wealth of options. Set your own pace and progress as you like. Build exactly the character you want by creating a detailed avatar, nurturing the right stats, and customizing your skills and equipment.
You act, the world reacts -- The World Tendency system changes the aggressiveness of monsters and the rewards for killing them based on players' actions. Different events and NPCs may be triggered, as well.

[FriskyTanuki]

Added a new video from GT to the OP.

[NamPaehc]

I think the Asian version has English subtitles.

This was recently reviewed, here is translation highlights: (http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader908288.jpg)

A bold game pursuing for the fundamental of joy in videogames.

This is an action RPG developed by SCE and From Software. Player must hunt down demons in order to save the kingdom. Information such as where you are supposed to go or how to defeat demons is intentionally provided in limited amount, so the player has to discover by try-and-error. This, instead of being nuisance, is the appeal of the game.
Also, for online co-op, there are interesting features such as leaving a dying message to leave a clue for other players.

Pros: Due to its high difficulty, there will be many unreasonable deaths, but because of that there is a big catharsis in finding out how to over come the obstacle. Control is very responsive and simple, so fighting against enemy is a breeze. Character making and leveling up give you a lot of freedom, so creating a character of your own is quite enjoyable.

Cons: You can't pause during game. Because of its serious and tense atmosphere and game structure, it's really not for casual gamers.

Also translation of interview.

Producer: Ken Horii
SCE Japan Studio External Production Division
Associate Producer

Director: Hidetaka Miyazaki
From Software Production Team 1 Chief Director

"The Reason for Creating a Fantasy Game Again"

- How did the team-up of SCE and From Software come about?

Horii: I have been a huge fan of games from From Software, especially King's Field series. One day I had a chance to visit the company, and in a brief conversation I asked, "You have no plans for making a sequel?" Then somehow conversation started heating up and ended up promising to create something together.

Miyazaki: When the project came in, I was mainly working on Armored Core series, and both the company and I personally have been away from creating a fantasy game, so there was a strong feeling inside me to do one.
I guess the timing was perfect.
Also I thought that teaming up with SCE could cause a chemical reaction to create something with new possibility.
And we did get a lot of advices and inspiration that From Software alone could never come up with.

Horii: Being a fan of From Software means I did have some problems with their games. If it was a sequel of King's Field, there would have been things that couldn't be changed because of tradition of the series, but by collaborating with them on new IP, we could create something new.
I remember we made a major change on something almost out of my ego.

Miyazaki: We also experimented with violence to push the envelope.

Horii: Because I'm from SCE, we tend to be careful with the rating, but we did some extreme things.

Miyazaki: For instance, I thought treasure boxes were quite unnatural in a battle field, so they were replaced with glowing dead bodies of other warriors.
We convinced them that we still needed treasure hunting element in the game.
In a way, we took liberty on this more than games published by ourselves. My boss peeked at the screen and asked me whether Sony would sign off on these things. (laughs)

"A Game System With Feel of Free Adventure"

- Looking at the story and the main character, there seem to be quite a lot of freedom.

Miyazaki: Main character is the player himself. You can set the name, sex, and of course facial features and appearances.
The fact that the protagonist is nameless is in a sense very From Software-ish. The purpose of the game is given to you in minimum amount, and you won't be forced to pursue it.
There will be some people telling you to "save the world," but you can say no and the game still goes on.

Horii: I think it does have a lot of freedom. The difference between weapons isn't in the parameter but in the moves, and it changes the whole tactics. Even with a same weapon, the motion will change depending on whether you grip it with one hand or both hands.
The game won't give you a helpful hand telling you what to do next, so how the story progresses and style of play will depend on the player.
There are many episodes.. (unreadable)

"A Game That Feels Like a Game on Playstation 3"

- What is the aim of this game coming from the company that made the system?

Horii: We are trying to create a game with distinctively new feel while being a traditional, carefully crafted action RPG. We want the gameplay itself to evolve rather than cutscenes or graphics.

Miyazaki: We are always thinking of ways to tell the joy of classic RPG with modern technology.
For example, long weapons will be hard to wield in small corridor or torch lighting up the dungeon in realtime. We want to express things that we have ignored in past generation and integrate it in the gameplay.
By doing what Wizardry games did in commands by player's action, realism, speed, and immersiveness will be enhanced greatly.
We call it a "strategic action," but it's a system with strategic element in classic RPGs in mind.

Horii: It's not exactly a pure action game where you need reflex and button mashing ability. Rather, you need to... (unreadable)
It's more of an tactical action.

Miyazaki: We want to create a "videogame that feels like a videogame" that we used to play when we were little with the latest technology, and I believe we see a new possibility in that direction.
But because a small tweak changes the whole balance of the game, we are taking a lot of time balancing the gameplay.

- It seems like there will be a lot of discussion among each other in terms of the balance.

Horii: As a SCE title, it's preferable to have the game played by wide variety of audience, but because I'm a fan of From Software, it's leaning toward "From Software" balance. (laughs)
These days the general consensus is that a game is better when it can be beaten easily, but I think a game used to be something you try again and again because you want to kill the enemy that killed you. By making a game which you can enjoy the process of trying, I want to wake up the gamers who are being used to easy games.

Miyazaki: But that doesn't necessarily mean we are making it insanely hard. There will always be a good reason why you die, like "you forgot to kill the archers" or "stepped inside without caution and surrounded by enemies."
If you analyze and think, you will be able to progress even if you are not good at action games, and that means even if you are, you will get stuck if you don't think.

[RelentlessRolento]

i really want this even though it has mixed reviews. i feel it treads similar love or hate grounds of Monster Hunter games, so I want.

[OatmealMu]

I do love me some Monster Hunter, but I'm not sure about this. Online co-op makes me kind of hard, though. And hey, Monster Hunter can be really unforgiving, too.

[epobirs]

I was one of the rare King's Field fans back when, so I'll be watching for this one.

I was hoping the PSP remakes of the King's Field games would get a US version but no luck so far.

[The Mana Knight]

i really want this even though it has mixed reviews. i feel it treads similar love or hate grounds of Monster Hunter games, so I want.I heard what gives the game a mixed review (it did very well at Dengeki) is because it's hard. It's one of those games where if you die, you start back from a distance.

[cochesecochese]

This game looks badass. I heard the Asian version is going to have English subtitties.

[blackjaw]

I loved Kings Field before I played Morrowind on Xbox. Is 3rd person the only view in this new game or do they have the classic first person view as well?

[happy]

I heard what gives the game a mixed review (it did very well at Dengeki) is because it's hard. It's one of those games where if you die, you start back from a distance.

I like hard games, but games that make you start way back annoy me. I'm fine with SMT, because if I don't save before a big fight it's my fault in that. That said, this sounds interesting so I'm hoing it comes over. Might as well just release it with subtitles, the people who will really be interested will be perfectly happy with subtitles.

[The Mana Knight]

I like hard games, but games that make you start way back annoy me. I'm fine with SMT, because if I don't save before a big fight it's my fault in that. That said, this sounds interesting so I'm hoing it comes over. Might as well just release it with subtitles, the people who will really be interested will be perfectly happy with subtitles.If it comes stateside, it WILL have English voiceacting, since it's a requirement by SCEA.

I thought I saw somewhere it had the first person view option, but can't remember.

[cochesecochese]

There's a live stream of someone playing it here. (http://ja.justin.tv/esegk) Pretty awesome so far. Looks to be a mix of Monster Hunter and King's Field style game play.

[OatmealMu]

Chat isn't loading for me. Is this guy playing with other people or alone?

[cochesecochese]

It's not loading for me either. I think he's playing alone. From what I can tell he's grinding for better equipment right now. He keeps getting his ass handed to him every time he gets to a boss.

Wow. It also appears that the bosses have health indicators which is my single biggest complaint with Monster Hunter. IMO it makes all the brutal regular enemy fights, the lack of character leveling and the equipment loss all fair. If I know what I'm up against it makes it a lot harder to tolerate a hard fight. God damn I want this game.

[OatmealMu]

Heh, I just saw him get destroyed by a fire-breathing spider boss. Kind of getting Mythos vibes from it.

[blitz6speed]

That spider boss fight looks like a blast, love the effect when you get hit with the web

[cochesecochese]

Awesome. He took down the spider boss. Some story spoilers afterward but ehhhh nothing earth shattering.

[OatmealMu]

Ah, they finally beat the spider boss. And it looks like there's separate hubs (the game calls them "Nodes") where, I assume, you can buy better and better equipment.

Man, the guy sees two dragons and he runs away?! Coward.

[OatmealMu]

The stream is up and running again.

[NamPaehc]

Friend says this is selling out in Japan. :hot:

[blackjaw]

Friend says this is selling out in Japan. :hot:

Yep, Kotaku reported it this morning.
http://kotaku.com/5147816/ps3-exclusive-demon-souls-is-selling-out

[kurokubushi]

This game looks amzing. If it as good as I'm hoping it will be, It will probally be my personal Game of the Year.

[RelentlessRolento]

man from what I've been reading of people playing this... I want it badly.

[gobz]

Has anyone's pre-order from play-asia shipped?

[theblizzman]

How can we find out if this is coming stateside? Anyone import this yet?

[kurokubushi]

This game looks cool. I get a Oblivion/shadow of the colosus feel from it.

[kurokubushi]

How can we find out if this is coming stateside? Anyone import this yet?

This game is comming stateside, at least its suposed to. There is no exact date yet, but it's in QTR 4 2009.

[cochesecochese]

This game is comming stateside, at least its suposed to. There is no exact date yet, but it's in QTR 4 2009.
Says who? IGN? Wikipedia?

[kurokubushi]

Says who? IGN? Wikipedia?


I double checked the resouces of the article a I read, and they seemed a little fishy. I rechecked and there are currently no plans to bring this game to the US.

[cochesecochese]

Word. I'm all about the Asian version in full English. Too bad it's a bitch to get ahold of a copy right now.

[theblizzman]

I was one of the rare King's Field fans back when, so I'll be watching for this one.

I was hoping the PSP remakes of the King's Field games would get a US version but no luck so far.

I couldn't agree more. I loved Kings field, but have given up hope the PSP remakes will be coming stateside. I am not getting a warm feeling that this will see a US release so I just bit the bullet and bought Demons Souls from yesasia yesterday. They listed it in stock, but it will not ship for a month (then a week for delivery).

Have any CAGs actually imported the game yet?

[Borei no Shi]

I have. It's similar to King's Field, but moreso the Shadow Tower series.

[Poor2More]

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-19-71-99-49-en-15-demon+soul-43-99.html

What one to buy that is full english? Jap or asian version?

[refusedchaos]

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-19-71-99-49-en-15-demon+soul-43-99.html

What one to buy that is full english? Jap or asian version?

Asian

[Poor2More]

Sweet I just ordered it, folks say it should ship withen a week

[RelentlessRolento]

where's the cheapest place to order this?

[Poor2More]

where's the cheapest place to order this?

I just ordered from Play-Asia.com, it came to $67 shipped via 5-10 day shipping speed, pretty good knowing this game probably wont come to the US, Asian version is full english (Text, voice, menu), Online mode is compatible in all regions (Mean US players can play with people in Japan and Korea)

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

Their is the English Wiki, Great info

[happy]

If they even have english voices already done they would be stupid not to do some kind of US release. Even if they only print 10K copies and don't advertise much, I think the fact that it is an RPG will move enough units to justify getting a rating and printing the discs. They should put it out sometime during the summer, after InFamous just so they can have exclusives coming out throughout the year.

[Third Eye]

If they even have english voices already done they would be stupid not to do some kind of US release. Even if they only print 10K copies and don't advertise much, I think the fact that it is an RPG will move enough units to justify getting a rating and printing the discs. They should put it out sometime during the summer, after InFamous just so they can have exclusives coming out throughout the year.

Why even wait that long? If you want it now, there's no reason to wait since this game has 100% english support. The ONLY thing that's not in english is the instruction booklet. Even then you get an insert that's in english which tells you the important features within the game. Also there's a Demon's Souls wiki out there.

I ordered it on the 14th from play-asia, I don't know when they're going to get more stock in since it's still back ordered. I'm thinking I won't see it till late April-May. Hoping I'm wrong.

[Third Eye]

Argh....anyone else order this from Play-Asia? I ordered it on the 14th of this month and its status got updated to back ordered the following day. I've been waiting since then and I'm just curious how long it takes these bastards to restock?

[punkmaggit]

NCSX seems to keep getting new shipments in of the Asia version, but they sellout in a matter of seconds!!

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/BCAS-20071.html

Read the comments on the page. They're very helpful.

[Poor2More]

NCSX seems to keep getting new shipments in of the Asia version, but they sellout in a matter of seconds!!

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/BCAS-20071.html

Read the comments on the page. They're very helpful.

Canceled my Play-Asia order for the asian version since people who ordered in Feb, are still on Backordered.

I ordered it from NCSX on 3/26 (Click details on the product and they list in most cases the EXACT day they expect to receive more of that item, so I placed an odered and it shipped a matter of hours later (Ships from NY), I received it today, and cant wait to try it out!

[Saint Noir]

Awesome to hear. Check back as I am curious on this game. I am really hoping for a local release!

[gobz]

I managed to get two of these. One to play and one to keep. I have the feeling that this game is going to be rare. Hopefully ill get a chance to try it out sometime soon but Killzone 2 has me hooked

[punkmaggit]

I received it today, and cant wait to try it out!

Cool :) I'm glad I was able to help a CAG out!

[gamerpro4000]

Looks like a great game but not enough for me to spend almost 70 dollars. It costs too much for a game that has not been rated from American game critics like gamespot or GT. Seems risky to me. Also anyone notice the health, mana, & stamina bar looks like its from oblivion?

[Poor2More]

I got this game, verdict is.....I love it 9/10 easily, very challenging but reward is that much better. I dont regret my $75 purchase one bit. Here is my character so far....

Knight w/ Black Assassin's Leather

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss112/TheBigRedBoom/DemonSoul_Knight.jpg

Anyone care to share their characters?

I beat 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, and working on 3-1 currently

[easper]

One of our writers over at PixelVerdict.com just posted his review (http://pixelverdict.com/2009/04/15/review-demons-souls-ps3-import/) of Demon's Souls. He really dug it.

[punkmaggit]

Gave up Eternal Sonata so I could play this one... have to say I'm loving it!! (Ba da ba ba ba) Not quite sure what I'm doing now, but it's feels rewarding once you learn the system better. Kinda like how Etrian Odyssey felt once you got into it. :3

[erectiontown]

i'm pretty tempted to order this

[punkmaggit]

Ha, so I finally beat 1-2 (Tower Knight)!! Instead of trying to fight my way through everyone to get to the actual boss, I ran through most everyone. When the TK finally came down, the fog lifted and they all came running after me!! lol Great game :).

[Hestar]

Man I wanna play this game so badly :( (I love the kings field series).I shoul've got this game instead of killzone 2 :/

[xsouthparkx]

Hmm so does anyone think there will be an English release? Or should I just buy the asian version?

[cochesecochese]

I'd guess about 0% chance of an English release. Just import it.

[Third Eye]

Hmm so does anyone think there will be an English release? Or should I just buy the asian version?


You can buy the Korean version too. It has full English support just like the Asian version. Might run a tad cheaper too.

[xsouthparkx]

You can buy the Korean version too. It has full English support just like the Asian version. Might run a tad cheaper too.
I just bought the asian version. I hope I like it lol. Though the website says it won't get here until mid May.

[whoknows]

I think I'm going to give in and put an order in for this. Since nowhere has it in stock right now, that means it won't show up until the semester is over. 8-)

[happy]

Wow, that Eurogamer review might be the first review I have ever read and thought fuck I Must buy this game. I won't have any time to play it till the fall at earliest, so hopefully a US version will be announced by then, or the asian one will be more available/cheaper.

Sony should post that review on the wall at E3 and announce they are releasing the game in the US, the localization is already done, they can even just do it as a $40 game on PSN, Gamestop/walmart won't care about not having this on the shelves.

[kurokubushi]

I want this game sobaadly..... I'll probally just wait till someone on here is willing to trde it and then sell my soul to them in exchange.

[coolz481]

For what it's worth, Demon's Souls also got a very positive write-up in the latest issue of Play magazine. The only potential drawback, depending on your point-of-view, is that's is supposedly pretty challenging.

[pete5883]

Goddamn, NeoGAF has me so pumped about getting destroyed by this game. I think I can hold off as long as it doesn't get a US release.

[Third Eye]

Son of a bitch. My order got delayed till early May. I guess WoW will have to hold me over till then.

[CoffeeEdge]

So I wonder how many people in the US will now pretend to have ever cared about King's Field, or even From Software in general, now that they have a PS3-exclusive to cling to and fawn over.

[Hydro2Oxide]

So I wonder how many people in the US will now pretend to have ever cared about King's Field, or even From Software in general, now that they have a PS3-exclusive to cling to and fawn over.

Just like the Fallout series? :roll:

[Poor2More]

Im pretty much done with this game (90% complete) I have the Asian version (Full English) so I will probably put it up for trade or sell on CAG, since its still hard to find. I will provide pics and all that, PM if interested

[CoffeeEdge]

Just like the Fallout series? :roll:

Almost. The difference, is that people got interested in Fallout 3 because of the publisher (and their reputation with Elder Scrolls; another series that suddenly got really popular with it's third entry), not the platform.

[Third Eye]

So I wonder how many people in the US will now pretend to have ever cared about King's Field, or even From Software in general, now that they have a PS3-exclusive to cling to and fawn over.

Kingsfield WAS awesome though (for me). It was one of the only rpg's out at the time so no fucking shit I cared about it. From Software also made Otogi which was bad ass as well. I can't comment on the other stuff they've made but comments like yours are just fodder for trolls.

[CoffeeEdge]

It was one of the only rpg's out at the time
Uh, if you say so...

but comments like yours are just fodder for trolls.
Oh, chill the hell out. I'm just saying, that the PS3 community seems to make a big deal out of EVERY SINGLE EXCLUSIVE, no matter what it's credentials. I find it really hard to believe that as many people as will make a big deal out of this exclusive game , as actually cared about From's RPG history.

[FriskyTanuki]

I don't think anyone's really making as big of a deal about this game as you've made it out to be, as evidenced by the ~60 posts made before you found this thread. The fact that it's not even out in the US makes it very hard for anybody, besides a few people on Neogaf, to care about the game.

[SilentSinr]

has anyone decided to import this one yet since it has english subtitles?
if so how is it?
and how other games would you compare it to?

[Third Eye]

Uh, if you say so...


Wow, you must not remember but there were barely any RPG's for the PSone when it launched in 95. King's Field was one of few here in NA.

[CoffeeEdge]

Wow, you must not remember but there were barely any RPG's for the PSone when it launched in 95. King's Field was one of few here in NA.

The PlayStation was totally not the only thing to play videogames on in 1995.

[Third Eye]

The PlayStation was totally not the only thing to play videogames on in 1995.

Sorry if you took it the wrong way but I was only talking about PSone RPG's. They were very limited on that system when it launched and for quite some time after which is why King's Field filled that void for some people.



I don't think anyone's really making as big of a deal about this game as you've made it out to be, as evidenced by the ~60 posts made before you found this thread. The fact that it's not even out in the US makes it very hard for anybody, besides a few people on Neogaf, to care about the game.


There's actually a TON of ppl very aware of this game, lots calling it their GOTY of the year so far. Eurogamer posted their review, somethingawful forums has had two (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3106674) 1,200+ post threads about it, the thread on Gaf is over 3k posts. Gametrailers, gamespot or almost any video game forums has lots of interested people.

[CoffeeEdge]

Sorry if you took it the wrong way but I was only talking about PSone RPG's.

Okay, see, there is nothing about the statement "It was one of the only rpg's out at the time" that is PlayStation-specific, so you can't blame me for misinterpreting it.

[FriskyTanuki]

That still isn't that many sales for a game that's supposedly a big deal.

[Third Eye]

That still isn't that many sales for a game that's supposedly a big deal.

Just curious but, where did you get that info from? The only source shown regarding the sales of Demon's Souls has been a famitsu magazine article saying the Japanese version sold 100k. Didn't say anything about the other two versions.

[SilentSinr]

yeah every site i have been to it backordered...and their new shipment that they get is also sold out. So it looks like sometime late May will be when they get more in lol...if they don't sell out again

[theblizzman]

yeah every site i have been to it backordered...and their new shipment that they get is also sold out. So it looks like sometime late May will be when they get more in lol...if they don't sell out again

Just received my second delay notification today. Bought it about two months ago with an initial ship date of April 20th, then delayed to May 5th, and now delayed until May 27th.

[Third Eye]

Just received my second delay notification today. Bought it about two months ago with an initial ship date of April 20th, then delayed to May 5th, and now delayed until May 27th.

Damn, what site?

[erectiontown]

Just received my second delay notification today. Bought it about two months ago with an initial ship date of April 20th, then delayed to May 5th, and now delayed until May 27th.
did you order from ncsx? if so, that means mine will be delayed too; i ordered around april 16

[theblizzman]

yesasia

[Third Eye]

Shit, finally! Play-Asia shipped my stuff out today! Only took two months.


PSN: AcidAvatar if anyone wants to play sometime :)

[erectiontown]

i certainly placed my play-asia order at the right time! ordered sunday, shipped today!

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I'm trying to find out as much as I possibly can about this game before I try and grab a copy. Is it turn based or action? Is it a straight up action RPG/dungeon crawler type of game?

I ask because I like the action-y type of RPG's but I CAN'T STAND anything like Final Fantasy.

[punkmaggit]

It's a straight-up ARPG/dungeon crawler. You should have a blast with this one!

I went ahead and ditched my knight character, as playing as her was just too hard. Re-started with a Royal (soul arrow + regenerating MP ring = WIN) and the game is almost too easy now. You can keep your enemies at a distance and even their hand-to-hand combat isn't that bad. Still haven't beaten 2-2 though :-(.

[dallow]

I have to agree, this game seems to be getting a lot of attention lately from importers.
As soon as this FF:Advent Children sells, I'll order up a copy as I've been meaning to since the game came out.

So I wonder how many people in the US will now pretend to have ever cared about King's Field, or even From Software in general, now that they have a PS3-exclusive to cling to and fawn over.:rofl: never change

[punkmaggit]

Man, so I went through 2-2 (yay!) and 3-1 last night. This game still amazes me!! It captures the oppressive scary vibe that Resident Evil has been trying to do for YEARS. I literally didn't blink the entire time I was at the Tower of Latria.

[erectiontown]

Man, so I went through 2-2 (yay!) and 3-1 last night. This game still amazes me!! It captures the oppressive scary vibe that Resident Evil has been trying to do for YEARS. I literally didn't blink the entire time I was at the Tower of Latria.
man, you are making me live up to my username. i cannot wait till this thing gets here. Let's go USPS!

[MiniB0ssBattle]

I tried to order at Yes-Asia, it got an order process on hold e-mail. poop.

[dallow]

Sold out seemingly everywhere, and ebay prices are nearing $80. :(

[erectiontown]

Sold out seemingly everywhere, and ebay prices are nearing $80. :(
maybe i shouldn't have cancelled my ncsx order after my play-asia shipped....

[theblizzman]

Monday Yesasia sent me another delayed shipment notification (delayed till May 27th). One day later they sent me a notification that the item just shipped (crazy, but I do not care). FINALLY!!!! I ordered this two months ago. At least this gave me time to go back and play Eternal Ring and Ancient City. If now they only would bring over the two Kings Field PSP games they released back in 2006.

[dimeadz]

I got on the waiting list to get this game. I will have it on the 12th!

[Third Eye]

Monday Yesasia sent me another delayed shipment notification (delayed till May 27th). One day later they sent me a notification that the item just shipped (crazy, but I do not care). FINALLY!!!! I ordered this two months ago. At least this gave me time to go back and play Eternal Ring and Ancient City. If now they only would bring over the two Kings Field PSP games they released back in 2006.


Holy shit I didn't know they released King's Field for PSP. That's pretty bad ass.

[MiniB0ssBattle]

Wow, YesAsia just said they are shipping my copy out today. Can't wait!

[erectiontown]

this game is freakin hard

[Boeing 747]

I'm really interested in this game. I'm a bit concerned and worried about the difficulty. From what I've read it doesn't feel cheap but then I read there are things (Traps, Enemies that pop out) that you just sort of have to learn.

Also how does saving work? I've read you have to beat an enemy/boss/dungeon to save?

Is it worth the about $70-$90 shipped it would most likely cost?

[punkmaggit]

I'm really interested in this game. I'm a bit concerned and worried about the difficulty. From what I've read it doesn't feel cheap but then I read there are things (Traps, Enemies that pop out) that you just sort of have to learn.

Also how does saving work? I've read you have to beat an enemy/boss/dungeon to save?

Is it worth the about $70-$90 shipped it would most likely cost?

Technically you can save at any time just by selecting "system" -> "quit". You can't reload if you've made a mistake... I can only assume that's what you mean. There are a good amount of traps and enemies that like to ambush you, but if you keep your guard up and generally just pay attention to your surroundings (and the messages on the ground) you should be okay.

[xsouthparkx]

Got my copy monday. Thanks punkmaggit for the game info on how to save. I probably would have had a problem with that if you hadn't had mentioned :) And I'll be sure to read messages on the ground heh

[dimeadz]

I found myself doing a lot of running away. I found that the royal is fairly easy to use. I did beat the phalanx today.

[Boeing 747]

Technically you can save at any time just by selecting "system" -> "quit". You can't reload if you've made a mistake... I can only assume that's what you mean. There are a good amount of traps and enemies that like to ambush you, but if you keep your guard up and generally just pay attention to your surroundings (and the messages on the ground) you should be okay.

Since I don't have the game, I really am not sure. It's been on my watch list for at least a month now but other then the price and lack of availability the difficulty has been the thing holding me back.

So I'm not really sure what I'm saying. Maybe you could give a brief description, what do you mean you can't reload? Is it basically like auto save that you can't turn off?

[punkmaggit]

Is it basically like auto save that you can't turn off?

Basically. So there's no quicksave -> reload to correct your mistakes and kind of "cheat" the system. James Clark from RPGfan.com describes it pretty well:

The game auto saves when you die, and it does it fast too. I tried pulling the plug on my PS3 right after getting shanked by a zombie, and it STILL saved.

So if you die, suck it up and try again. As long as you can get back to the spot you died, you'll get all your souls back. There's no loss of inventory either. Read through this site: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/ . It's a great resource on Demon's Souls.

[erectiontown]

yeah, that wiki is good... this game is like the ultimate test in how patient you and good you are with games

[punkmaggit]

Man, fuck the Maneater(s). I've decided to put them off for now so I can level up a bit. At this point I've gone through 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3 (!!! :D), 3-1, and 4-1 as of last night. By complete accident I found an awesome shortcut through 4-1 and finished it in about 10-15 minutes. The boss is nothing, especially if you have some long-range attack magic.

So I wanted to go through 4-2 as well, but I stepped in and like 10 seconds in a black phantom breaks in. UGH. I'd dealt with one before and was able to fend him off, but this one was a complete douche. He had the "total protection" spell and some sort of spear that breaks all of your equipment. I put up a good fight for a little bit but he got me in the end. Dammit.

[MiniB0ssBattle]

gah, still waiting for YesAsia to send it to me.

[Boeing 747]

Basically. So there's no quicksave -> reload to correct your mistakes and kind of "cheat" the system. James Clark from RPGfan.com describes it pretty well:



So if you die, suck it up and try again. As long as you can get back to the spot you died, you'll get all your souls back. There's no loss of inventory either. Read through this site: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/ . It's a great resource on Demon's Souls.

Thanks for the info, seems very fair.

I'll have to bite on this game.. I'll probably be here in the next month or two ranting and raving :)

[punkmaggit]

YEAH!! Finished 3-2 last night after equiping some heavy-duty armor. Sure I lose the ability to roll around willy-nilly, but the boost in defense more than makes up for it. This is what my character had:

-Total Protection spell (a necessity)
-tons of Full Moon Grass
-sword of choice (ditch the shield, as it's pretty unnecessary for this one)
-lots of the Gloom armor from Yurt the Silent Chief

There were alot of close calls as the passage is pretty narrow and it doesn't take much for them to knock you off. 3-3 here I come!

[Antic]

That's a pretty steep price on Play-Asia for it. >_< I noticed it said English, but is it good or butchered?

[punkmaggit]

That's a pretty steep price on Play-Asia for it. >_< I noticed it said English, but is it good or butchered?

As far as I've noticed, the English is pretty flawless. The voice actors do a phenomenal job.

[Dead of Knight]

Play-Asia shipped my copy. This game better be good or heads will roll.

[theblizzman]

got the game a week ago and have only beat 1-1. I am playing as a Royal (level 8) and I am not sure what to upgrade. So far have been focusing on Will, Magic, Faith (a couple in Vitality) to get more magic/miracle slots. Am I going the right route?

[FriskyTanuki]

Didn't see this mentioned yet, but I got a press release about Atlus announcing that they would be bringing Demon's Souls to North America.

IRVINE, CALIFORNIA -- MAY 20, 2009 -- Atlus U.S.A., Inc., your shining knights in armor, today announced that they have secured the North American publishing rights for Demon's Souls™, a groundbreaking action RPG experience for PLAYSTATION®3 system. Beautiful, compelling, and unforgiving, Demon's Souls is the hardcore RPG experience PLAYSTATION 3 system owners have been waiting for since the platform's launch.

Revolutionary online features support your adventure like never before, presenting seamless interconnectivity that serves in every instance to enhance the single-player game. Team up with two other players in simultaneous cooperative play, working together to topple some of the game's colossal bosses, or force your way into the games of skilled players and challenge them to PvP battle. Leave hints and clues for those who will follow in your footsteps; either intentionally or through your own inadvertent demise, your bloodstains will allow your successors to view a replay of your death, hinting at how to avoid your gruesome fate. Unprecedented in its depth and subtlety, peerless in its relentlessly challenging gameplay, Demon's Souls is the ultimate action RPG.

Experience the game Eurogamer.net awarded 9 out of 10, hailing it as "absolutely compelling; dark, detailed, unforgiving, creatively cruel," and adding, "you can learn to love Demon's Souls like few other games in the world."

Demon's Souls for PLAYSTATION 3 system is scheduled for North American release in fall 2009.

[dallow]

EDIT: Damn you frisky!

Hey guys!

Atlus is bring this game to America!!

IRVINE, CALIFORNIA -- MAY 20, 2009 -- Atlus U.S.A., Inc., your shining knights in armor, today announced that they have secured the North American publishing rights for Demon's Souls™, a groundbreaking action RPG experience for PLAYSTATION®3 system. Beautiful, compelling, and unforgiving, Demon's Souls is the hardcore RPG experience PLAYSTATION 3 system owners have been waiting for since the platform's launch.
Revolutionary online features support your adventure like never before, presenting seamless interconnectivity that serves in every instance to enhance the single-player game. Team up with two other players in simultaneous cooperative play, working together to topple some of the game's colossal bosses, or force your way into the games of skilled players and challenge them to PvP battle. Leave hints and clues for those who will follow in your footsteps; either intentionally or through your own inadvertent demise, your bloodstains will allow your successors to view a replay of your death, hinting at how to avoid your gruesome fate. Unprecedented in its depth and subtlety, peerless in its relentlessly challenging gameplay, Demon's Souls is the ultimate action RPG.
Experience the game Eurogamer.net awarded 9 out of 10, hailing it as "absolutely compelling; dark, detailed, unforgiving, creatively cruel," and adding, "you can learn to love Demon's Souls like few other games in the world."

[cochesecochese]

Now THAT's what's up. This was kind of on the back burner for me because I was worried about co-op. Now that I know there will be plenty of English players this is D1 for me.

Fuck yeah.

Oh and hopefully we'll see a good strategy guide or art/promo book for it over here. This is the type of game that absolutely screams for it.

[dallow]

Yup, this will be a lot of fun!

[dallow]

Key Features

Ultimate hardcore RPG challenge -- In this brutal land, death is inevitable, but not final. Combining the best features of an action game and RPG, you'll slice, smash, shoot, and ensorcel some of the most horrible, vicious enemies ever encountered. Are you strong enough to face the impossible and win?
Groundbreaking online capabilities -- Network features go far beyond any previous RPG, allowing players to leave hints for each other, replay death scenes, cooperatively revive dead players, or invade another player's game to wreak havoc. Not merely an add-on feature, multiplayer options are vast, and uniquely focused on changing and intensifying the single player experience.
Freeform and flexible -- The open-ended structure of the game means that there is no single path, but rather a wealth of options. Set your own pace and progress as you like. Build exactly the character you want by creating a detailed avatar, nurturing the right stats, and customizing your skills and equipment.
You act, the world reacts -- The World Tendency system changes the aggressiveness of monsters and the rewards for killing them based on players' actions. Different events and NPCs may be triggered, as well.

[FriskyTanuki]

Now you're just copying stuff from the OP, dallow. :-( ;)

[Dead of Knight]

The very fucking DAY my import from Play Asia ships... fuck you Atlus.

[Paco]

The very fucking DAY my import from Play Asia ships... fuck you Atlus.

The thing i wonder is will the typical FATLUS fans buy it? They love games that you don't actually play.

[steveinneed]

Meow.

[dallow]

Releasing this Fall according to the Playstion twitter, and more to be shown at E3.


Now you're just copying stuff from the OP, dallow. :-( ;):bomb:;)

The very fucking DAY my import from Play Asia ships... fuck you Atlus.
Ouch!

[Dead of Knight]

At the very least I'll be able to play through it months before most people.

[QiG]

The thing i wonder is will the typical FATLUS fans buy it? They love games that you don't actually play.

So you're saying it's not very SMT like? I bought in on some of those games despite not being into RPGs aside from a select few (mostly action or strategy) and I've been hearing nothing but good about this game as well.

[Masterkyo]

Can't wait to get mine hand on this game :)

[Paco]

So you're saying it's not very SMT like? I bought in on some of those games despite not being into RPGs aside from a select few (mostly action or strategy) and I've been hearing nothing but good about this game as well.

What I'm saying is that you actually have to PLAY the game. Something a typical FATLUS fan is confused about. You know, a video game being something you play rather then something you choose a command and watch the game play itself. That's what I'm going towards.

[strife18]

Well I'm pretty happy they decided to do this. I was pondering an import but have no cash to do it, looks like I won't have to. I am freakin' starved of RPGs on the PS3 as imo all ones released so far have been either shit or just not my cup o' tea. But even counting there is like all of maybe 10 RPGs....sad...very sad sony.

In any case. This should be able to hold my hunger until a good JRPG comes out.

[mguiddy]

Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002AB7TX8?ie=UTF8&tag=atlus-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002AB7TX8) says October 27th.

[RelentlessRolento]

That's probably placeholder... I pre-ordered Tekken 6 fro GS and they listed it as the same date even though nothing has been decided.

[jling84]

Can't wait for this. I've been lurking eBay forever trying to find a used copy of the Korean or Chinese version for under $70, but no luck!

[Dead of Knight]

Checked my Play-Asia order... it was only $68 shipped, so for barely a couple bucks after tax, I got it probably six months early. Not bad.

[dallow]

Plus, you'll probably have the superior cover art.

I hope they don't region lock the online.

[pete5883]

I dunno. The less people that can sneak into my game and assassinate me, the better.

What I'm saying is that you actually have to PLAY the game. Something a typical FATLUS fan is confused about. You know, a video game being something you play rather then something you choose a command and watch the game play itself. That's what I'm going towards.
Do you just not like RPGs? Atlus RPGs in general are no less interactive than anything else in the genre.

[js1]

I dunno. The less people that can sneak into my game and assassinate me, the better.

That's how I feel about it also. Anyway, looking forward to hearing more about it.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I was contemplating this game for a while and while I have no money now the game is in stock on PlayAsia, yet while I had a ton of cash it was on major backorder. Go figure.

But now that it's coming to NA, I don't even have to worry about importing it.

[punkmaggit]

Yeah, I'll be buying a second copy ;).

[dimeadz]

Yeah, I'll be buying a second copy ;).

Me too. I doubt the save will work on the US version, but that also means i should be able to get the trophies twice.

[erectiontown]

is it really necessary to buy another copy?

[Thomas96]

is there any word on the release date.... this game doesn't look that good to me graphically, but it does look like it will be fun to play... I might give it a shot.

[gunm]

I don't mind the everquest-like death system so much, but I'm not too fond of the inability to turn off the online griefing capability unless you play offline. I guess you can also play in soul form to get around it as well.

But then I wouldn't be able to really play co-op the way I'd like to?

Anyway, I'd probably wait until the game is sub-$30 before considering adding it to my collection...

[punkmaggit]

Beat it last night!! fuck the Valley of Defilement. Now working on my New Game +. :D

[Dead of Knight]

I suck royally at this game. It's not a bad game, it's quality, I just fucking suck at it. I'm horrible at action-adventure games, and I know this. I should've known not to purchase it considering it's much harder than most of these types of games... I'm gonna give it a few more chances but it just really doesn't seem like my kind of game.

[Dead of Knight]

Yeah, I beat 1-1. The boss was easier than the regular enemies in the level. Then I went to 1-2 and I keep getting screwed by the auto-target system constantly fucking up so the enemies rip me to shreds. I really wished it just automatically targeted enemies in sight instead of having to press a button, because as it is, a significant percentage of the time (less than half, but it's still significant in this game considering how absolutely fucked you are when it happens) it doesn't target an enemy at all or targets the harmless fucking dragon that's flying over you instead of the enemy that's impaling you with a spear while you look right at him. I think I might just trade it or sell it at this point. I'm honestly not too frustrated at it right now, but I can tell where this is going. I doubt I could finish the game without chucking it out the window. If you're interested in it, lmk.

[sinned47]

i cant wait till this comes out

[MiniB0ssBattle]

Finally got this. Played a little at work, got 2 hitted by the tutorial boss. Can't wait to go home and start playing!

[punkmaggit]

DoK, trust me, I died more times than I care to mention on the first level. It's all a learning process. When I started the New Game +, I blazed through it in like 15 minutes. It's all about knowing your character and understanding the game. (also, Soul Arrow FTW)

[MiniB0ssBattle]

I play a knight and man is this game intense. I beat the blobby demon guy with firebombs and stabbing. I feel like royal was maybe the way to go.

[Dead of Knight]

DoK, trust me, I died more times than I care to mention on the first level. It's all a learning process. When I started the New Game +, I blazed through it in like 15 minutes. It's all about knowing your character and understanding the game. (also, Soul Arrow FTW)

I probably only died like ~10 times on the first level. I'm an a royal and used Soul Arrow. It's just not the game for me.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I suck royally at this game. It's not a bad game, it's quality, I just fucking suck at it. I'm horrible at action-adventure games, and I know this. I should've known not to purchase it considering it's much harder than most of these types of games... I'm gonna give it a few more chances but it just really doesn't seem like my kind of game.

Having played numerous, numerous action RPG's before, I figured this would be a great game for me. I can't even tell you how many times I've died trying to get through the first real level after the tutorial level.

I checked out one of the video walkthroughs on YouTube for it and realized I was walking right by someone I was supposed to save, so then I save him and end up getting the mausoleum key.

Then I make it to this cliff type area with two huge demons/dragons on it(one whose tail you only see, the other is breathing fire right in your path).

So, I make a valiant attempt to run for it......TOAST!!! So the next time I get there, I try to be more strategic, hugging the wall the dragon is perched on......I run out to collect stuff from the fallen soldiers strewn about out in the open and I get a fire shield(I think) and some ring that protects against fire.

Unfortunately, soon after getting those, my own weapons and shield end up having some sort of red writing come up on the screen and none of the weapons do any damage anymore(I'm assuming they are damaged and need to be repaired).

I'm still having fun with the game though, but damn is this friggin' game unforgiving.:roll:

Then again, I think I've become soft with these kind of games, since I always played on 'wimp' difficulty level for a first and usually ONLY playthrough.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

It's back in stock on Play-Asia(asian version with English and Chinese voiceovers/subtitles/menus....aka the one I have)

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-36pw.html

[PleasantOne]

I don't mind the everquest-like death system so much, but I'm not too fond of the inability to turn off the online griefing capability unless you play offline. I guess you can also play in soul form to get around it as well.

Is griefing the whole forcing yourself into someone else's game thing?

I hadn't see anything about this before until i got the Faithful email with the videos from G4 (here (http://g4tv.com/videos/39512/Demons-Souls-Direct-Feed-Walkthrough/#video-39545) and here (http://g4tv.com/videos/39478/Hands-On-Preview-of-Demons-Souls/) if anyone hasn't seen them). I was all excited, until they mentioned being able to force your way into other people's games and engage in PvP? I so do not want to be dealing with some 13 year old douchebag while I'm trying to mind my own business. The ghosting and notes and such sounds fun, but random PvP = a big fat fail for me. If you can't turn this "feature" off, I doubt I'll be bothering to pick the game up at all...

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Is griefing the whole forcing yourself into someone else's game thing?

I hadn't see anything about this before until i got the Faithful email with the videos from G4 (here (http://g4tv.com/videos/39512/Demons-Souls-Direct-Feed-Walkthrough/#video-39545) and here (http://g4tv.com/videos/39478/Hands-On-Preview-of-Demons-Souls/) if anyone hasn't seen them). I was all excited, until they mentioned being able to force your way into other people's games and engage in PvP? I so do not want to be dealing with some 13 year old douchebag while I'm trying to mind my own business. The ghosting and notes and such sounds fun, but random PvP = a big fat fail for me. If you can't turn this "feature" off, I doubt I'll be bothering to pick the game up at all...

I didn't run into anyone trying to come into my game, though I have played this for maybe 12 hours or so since I bought it. As for the notes and what not, if they remain the same as they were when I was playing last, then it's a total waste of time if you ask me.

Most people simply repeated the same notes as everyone else and many of them weren't particularly helpful.

[pete5883]

Most people simply repeated the same notes as everyone else and many of them weren't particularly helpful.
Weren't most of them in another language?

[theblizzman]

I didn't run into anyone trying to come into my game, though I have played this for maybe 12 hours or so since I bought it. As for the notes and what not, if they remain the same as they were when I was playing last, then it's a total waste of time if you ask me.

Most people simply repeated the same notes as everyone else and many of them weren't particularly helpful.

I am about 60+ hours in and have yet to have anyone enter my game (I predominately play in soul form unless I am trying to mess with the world tendancies). I believe there is a level range (within 10 levels) that a player must be to your current level to enter your game.

[PleasantOne]

Ok, thanks for the input, guys. Back to being excite, I guess ;)

[Ecofreak]

New designer interview on GT.com

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/52089.html

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Weren't most of them in another language?

Actually no, all of them were in English that I read. I have the Chinese/English version, if it makes any difference.

I was kind of shocked when they were all in English, since I expected them to be in Japanese primarily.

[dallow]

Interview was great, thanks for that.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm still holding out for the US release.

[js1]

I'm still holding out for the US release.

Same here.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I'm still holding out for the US release.

If you can pick it up off of a fellow CAG who is a tad frustrated with it, you might be able to swing a copy of the Chinese/English version for $50 shipped like I did.

Of course, now I find myself a tad flustered at how hardcore you seemingly have to be to play it, but I'm not about to give up on it just yet. :razz:

[mguiddy]

If you can pick it up off of a fellow CAG who is a tad frustrated with it, you might be able to swing a copy of the Chinese/English version for $50 shipped like I did.

Of course, now I find myself a tad flustered at how hardcore you seemingly have to be to play it, but I'm not about to give up on it just yet. :razz:
$50 for a game?!?!?!?!? I thought this was CHEAPassgamer.com?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

$50 for a game?!?!?!?!? I thought this was CHEAPassgamer.com?

Maybe you misread it, I said I paid $50 SHIPPED. :razz: I know, I laugh when other people pay that much for something and I've used that remark numerous times. But yeah, I wanted this game and hopefully since it's not coming out till fall here, I can turn it into a couple games I want once I get done with it.

[whoknows]

I just got this from another CAG and I keep dying.

Do I ever level up at all after I die, or is it pretty much keep trying til you somehow make it through?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I just got this from another CAG and I keep dying.

Do I ever level up at all after I die, or is it pretty much keep trying til you somehow make it through?

I think the second thing you said is pretty much what happens. You just have to keep trying until you make it through somehow. :D Good luck with that.

I've probably died about 40 times on the first level alone, but the game is still fun no matter what if you ask me.

[whoknows]

I keep dying on the first level...

The part with the dragon and the bridge. Is it possible to make it across before you're burned?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I keep dying on the first level...

The part with the dragon and the bridge. Is it possible to make it across before you're burned?

I know exactly what part you're talking about and all I did was back down from there and I believe I headed to the RIGHT after going back inside the castle walls. There's an alternate route, though that leads you to a narrow passage where there's a dragon/demon breathing fire from atop a ledge.

There are soldiers bodies strewn about in the path where it's breathing fire and some of them have some good items you can loot from their charred remains, including a shield which I believe gives you some protection from fire as well as a ring which adds even more protection from it. However, unless you time it JUST RIGHT you're going to die at least 2-3 times while trying to collect ALL of the items from the bodies.

I really wish this game were coming out tomorrow in the States, since I'm pretty sure they'll make a detailed guide for it because this game is just screaming for one. I know I'd buy it the first day it's released.

I just hope that Atlus doesn't radically change anything when they translate it for release here, since then the guide may be somewhat useless.

If you need some more help trying to get by the first level, there are numerous video walkthroughs on YouTube, which is how I found out about the soldier who I was completely passing by in each successive runthrough of the first level. He has a key for the mausoleum on him, so just follow him and whenever he stops, help him take out the enemies and once he dies, then take the mausoleum key.

I actually ended up stabbing him from behind to kill him and take the key, which was probably the wrong thing to do.

[erectiontown]

why would atlus need to translate, it's already in english!

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

why would atlus need to translate, it's already in english!

True. But then why is it going to take until the FALL to release here? I guess it'll have to pass whatever bs censorship checks it may have to go through, though I haven't seen anything objectionable in the entire first level as of yet.

Of course, for it being an import, I expected it to have some either over the top voice acting or some deadpan crap, which would have to be fixed in the port or whatever when it's released here. However, it's quite well done already, so I don't know why Atlus is having to wait until October or whenever the hell it's gonna be released here.

It makes no sense to delay it.

[pete5883]

I guess they want to wait until no one will buy it because there's a million other games coming out.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

But hopefully they'll get some people like me, who actually want the game and have no real desire for any of the games coming out in upcoming months. I mean, the next major game I'm looking forward to is either I Am Alive(curious to see the environmental dangers and how they play out during the game) or God Of War 3.

Otherwise, I have some very minor wants(Ghostbusters, InFamous), but I can wait until those are on clearance @ Sears for $10-15 to pick them up or cheap for sale @ Blockbuster used.

I also have a backlog of stuff I should be playing, so those will keep me busy until one of the two games I mentioned actually comes out.

[Gourd]

I'm curious about this game. If only because Atlus is publishing it and /someone/ is actually paying 50 dollars for it.

However, to be honest, Ninja Gaiden has forever made me afraid of the words: "Hard but fair." I'm going to take a wait and see approach. Either there will be copies of this game thick on the ground, and I'll get one at a price I can stomach if I end up hating it, or it will be rare and I'll remain happily ignorant of the pain it can induce.

[Ecofreak]

New details on Atlus' "Stop Importing!" bundle for $69.99 (http://www.destructoid.com/ax-09-demon-s-souls-release-date-announced-perks-included-138573.phtml)

Demon's Souls is coming to North America on October 6th for the PlayStation 3. Priced at $59.99 in a standard edition, it will ship with an art book and brand new cover art. Additionally, the game will be served on new North American servers. Atlus calls out Final Fantasy XI's online experience as a reason for the new servers. Ooh, burn.

The Atlus Spoils program continues with a $69.99 "Stop Importing It" edition. It will come with a 150+ page strategy guide and a fancy slip cover, too.

Again, both will be released on October 6th, which was announced here at Anime Expo for the first time. We'll get you pictures as soon as possible.

[Dead of Knight]

New details on Atlus' "Stop Importing!" bundle for $69.99 (http://www.destructoid.com/ax-09-demon-s-souls-release-date-announced-perks-included-138573.phtml)

:rofl: Love the "Stop Importing It!" title.

[xsouthparkx]

It took me 10 hours to get used to playing this game. It actually took me about 10 hours to complete the first level.
How long did it take everyone else to get used to gameplay or beat the first level?

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.atlus.com/res/demonssouls_glamourshot_premium_550.jpg

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

It took me 10 hours to get used to playing this game. It actually took me about 10 hours to complete the first level.
How long did it take everyone else to get used to gameplay or beat the first level?

At last count, I think I'm up to.....5-6 hours on the first level, but I DID finally get towards the end of it. I have yet to master the parrying and everything, but it's been a fun ride thus far.

Now if I can only get my PS3 back online, so I can see all of the really helpful(being sarcastic here) 'hints' that many of the other players of this game are leaving behind.

However, it looks like I may be grabbing a second copy of this game in the form of the 'stop importing it' bundle. That is, if Atlus doesn't get DoubleJump to release a standalone guide for it.

[xsouthparkx]

At last count, I think I'm up to.....5-6 hours on the first level, but I DID finally get towards the end of it. I have yet to master the parrying and everything, but it's been a fun ride thus far.

Now if I can only get my PS3 back online, so I can see all of the really helpful(being sarcastic here) 'hints' that many of the other players of this game are leaving behind.

However, it looks like I may be grabbing a second copy of this game in the form of the 'stop importing it' bundle. That is, if Atlus doesn't get DoubleJump to release a standalone guide for it.
Haha I know! "This is Harsh, evaluate me." lmfao

[erectiontown]

i'm tempted to sell my imported version to put down money on the pre-order deluxe edition

[strife18]

I'm not sure whether the Deluxe will be worth it. I mean, I am a CAG. $70 or probably more for us Canadians. All for an instruction guide and a slip cover? Of course Gamestop is giving an artbook away with preorders but they will only have like 2. So..worth it? Or just wait for the wave of people selling off their copies because it is too hard?

[Gourd]

Well, from what I understand, the game isn't exactly structured like a JRPG where you can miss items and characters. I'm not sure how much more helpful a strategy guide is going to be than, say, Gamefaqs.

A question before I let myself get excited about this game: Do I /have/ to melee to progress? As in, if I play a mage or an archer, will I /have/ to pick up a sword in order to beat a boss? I really /really/ don't want to buy a game where I'm going to hit a wall due to my reflexes, and the parry system makes that sound likely. I'd prefer to play a stealthy and agile ranged character, and never have to worry about millisecond responses.

[theblizzman]

A question before I let myself get excited about this game: Do I /have/ to melee to progress? As in, if I play a mage or an archer, will I /have/ to pick up a sword in order to beat a boss? I really /really/ don't want to buy a game where I'm going to hit a wall due to my reflexes, and the parry system makes that sound likely. I'd prefer to play a stealthy and agile ranged character, and never have to worry about millisecond responses.

Playing as melee is definately more difficult, but what you find is that certain weapons are more effective in each of the five areas. I am a level 70 Royal (basically a magic user) and almost exclusively use magic, but I do swap out to a sword, spear, or bow depending on the world that I am currently on. I have only struggled with a few bosses (I have four left). Regardless you HAVE to be able to block or you will be toast. Magic users can carry shields/swords/etc in their off hand.

Hope this helps.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/07/06/playstation-eye-chat-demons-souls/

Jeff Rubenstein has an Eye Chat interview with a few guys from Atlus about Demon's Souls with readers' questions.

Edit: The major thing I think they talked about was that the NA version will be on its own servers that are separate from the Asian and Japanese servers.

[PuppetYuber]

This game should really be on PC instead :\

[Ecofreak]

This game should really be on PC instead :\

Just another feather in the PS3's cap.

[theblizzman]

Edit: The major thing I think they talked about was that the NA version will be on its own servers that are separate from the Asian and Japanese servers.

Any idea how will this work if I have an asian import? US or Asian servers?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/07/06/playstation-eye-chat-demons-souls/

Jeff Rubenstein has an Eye Chat interview with a few guys from Atlus about Demon's Souls with readers' questions.

Edit: The major thing I think they talked about was that the NA version will be on its own servers that are separate from the Asian and Japanese servers.

Well that's kind of stupid, if you ask me. I haven't run into any hints/notes that weren't in English as of yet and I'm pretty sure I've been playing on the Asian servers since I have an import.

Admittedly, there's been ALOT of repetition of notes and some were in "Engrish" but there hasn't been one I couldn't read yet. I just wonder how the US/region 1 version's release will affect compatibility with those playing import copies.

[FriskyTanuki]

If you have import versions, you'll be on the old servers as far as what they were talking about. Those getting the NA version will be on the new servers.

[Ecofreak]

New direct-feed walk-through (http://g4tv.com/videos/39512/Demons-Souls-Direct-Feed-Walkthrough/) by a Atlus PR manager. 14 minutes long and very comprehensive -- enjoy!

[Nirvanaguy777]

This game looks tits. I'm pretty hyped.

[thelonepig]

Good night this game is difficult. I appreciate the brief tutorial, but I'd love to know more about how to level my character up. Any suggestions?

[Ecofreak]

New preview from GameTrailers.com -- talk about a very constant media blitz!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/52794.html

[erectiontown]

i'm selling my mint import copy if anyone is interested.

[Brian9824]

Waiting for a good deal before I buy a PS3 but i already pre-ordered this from amazon. It looks amazing. The joy of actually being CHALLENGED in an RPG is getting me excited.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Waiting for a good deal before I buy a PS3 but i already pre-ordered this from amazon. It looks amazing. The joy of actually being CHALLENGED in an RPG is getting me excited.

If you like RPG's with no checkpoints and no ability to save on the fly so you don't lose your progress and having to restart from the start of the level should you die, then you'll love this game.

Otherwise, you may feel like the people from the Gamefly commercial. The one where they're throwing fits and their stuff because they got frustrated by a 'bad game'.

Since I haven't played this game in over a month and I have a shitload of other games in my backlog, I might be persuaded to let go of my import copy.

All reasonable offers will be considered.

[Presto88]

Mine should be coming from Graf1k either today or tomorrow. Really. freakin'. excited.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Since I haven't played this in over a month, I'll take $50 shipped or will trade for a fairly recent game(Red Faction: Guerilla, Ghostbusters or inFamous ONLY with a preference towards RF:G).

My copy is mint/complete and I expect any games I may trade it for to be so as well.

[theblizzman]

Need help from those that finshed the game. I have read the wiki and it is not specific enough. I am on 1-4 and stuck at the blue dragon battle. I can get him to fly away at first, but I cannot figure out how to make it up the long stairwell the second time you meet him. I just keep getting fried. I have total protection on and +9 flame shield (no auto-life spell) but it does nothing.

[FriskyTanuki]

Atlus is adding a soundtrack CD to the pre-order incentives:

In addition to the previously announced 40-page, full-color art book (SAMPLE (http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102645496830&s=46384&e=001sPQ0btVFl-bo7oWOQaQjK778ZucNdkXyMQPZCc2vMZWMk2VxGO0lThGfRF5n DHDqk-hYlXLqZ8LF_eu8e0eik4rS-PXU8xqCxVw5kPUPQmWZ1JkwuiGddxkiGdnS4x7WxgU4jFTTVN2 SKh2KTPOirmv8V-KVfa2a)), fans who pre-order at a participating retailer can now also expect to receive a free soundtrack CD featuring music from the game (SAMPLE (http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102645496830&s=46384&e=001sPQ0btVFl-ZjbrxA6mxfeF6dXwpjBKZQTkJfQn_az7FVJSCS0rj23WfJkvFw 3tJgyjsRBBaaQ-SnuAUSRCdAoZTywy-VveeIiwV1U_gx6qjAYmi9rp2pX3zbBGPfzOD0oLjUQT6BFRQ=) ). The disc, which offers 24 tracks totaling 71 minutes from the game's haunting orchestral score, represents the complete Demon's Souls soundtrack, available for the first time as part of this exclusive North American promotion. The CD will be secured within the inside back cover of the art book, ensuring that existing pre-orders will receive the added bonus disc.

[Serpentor]

If you like RPG's with no checkpoints and no ability to save on the fly so you don't lose your progress and having to restart from the start of the level should you die, then you'll love this game.

So, how often can you save in this game? Is the saving spot rare, hard to find, annoyingly far?

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

So, how often can you save in this game? Is the saving spot rare, hard to find, annoyingly far?

If I remember correctly(and it's been a WHILE now) it auto saves at random spots through the levels, as well as each time you die. Unfortunately, there are no save spots that I've seen and no real checkpoints.

If you die during a level, you get to go alllllllll the way back to the beginning and start it all over again. Fun, fun, fun. So much fun that after the 20th restart, you'll wanna throw something.

But as they say, practice makes perfect and you'll get ALOT of practice.

[shogun316]

Need help from those that finshed the game. I have read the wiki and it is not specific enough. I am on 1-4 and stuck at the blue dragon battle. I can get him to fly away at first, but I cannot figure out how to make it up the long stairwell the second time you meet him. I just keep getting fried. I have total protection on and +9 flame shield (no auto-life spell) but it does nothing.


WARNING! SPOILER VIDEO! SPOILER VIDEO!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffLaTQ9AonE

STOP watching the video after the 1:30 mark if you wish to avoid even further spoilers.

Basically, there's a blind spot along the right side you can use to run across after the first dragon fire breath. Once you get past him though...

IMO, if you lack confidence (like myself) in one-shotting the rest of the level after running past the dragon, you should consider shooting the damn lizard to death. Makes multiple run-throughs easier should you die before finishing the level.

[theblizzman]

[QUOTE=shogun316;6134226
Basically, there's a blind spot along the right side you can use to run across after the first dragon fire breath. Once you get past him though...

IMO, if you lack confidence (like myself) in one-shotting the rest of the level after running past the dragon, you should consider shooting the damn lizard to death. Makes multiple run-throughs easier should you die before finishing the level.[/QUOTE]

Thanks,
I actually was able to get past the flame and stand under the dragon and pelt him with Soul Arrow. The next boss was a pain (only in that if you die you need to run all the way back to this point and go up an insanely slow elevator to get back to the boss). Finally finished the game. I am praying for DLC when it is released in a couple months.

[strife18]

Man,
I am so pumped! I have been following this game since the Japanese/Asia launch but was iffy on importing. I was excited when it was announced for NA and a few days ago I Pre-ordered on Amazon.ca
I just can't wait for my Deluxe edition with strategy guide, art book, and soundtrack.
It's just too bad Oct.6 is soooo far away. :(

[xsouthparkx]

Hey some Japanese dude sent me a message that said, "ずるいね" or "That sly."
I gave him an A rating after he helped me kill a boss. Does A mean bad? Or is there a different meaning in Japan for that phrase?

[happy]

Is there any info on the quality of the soundtrack and artbook. I'm tempted to preorder through amazon, but half of me feels like I could wait a few months and pick it up from ebayers who are really frustrated.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

Quick question: Is it possible to kill that first demon/boss at the end of the tutorial level? I ask because my one buddy was hacking away at it and had about a tenth of it's health gone when he listened to me and decided to try rolling out of the way of an attack from it.

He got grazed by the club or whatever it wields and it instantly drained all of his health. Suffice to say, I didn't hear the end of it for the rest of the night till he got torched by the one creature later on and died, after which he gave up after realizing he lost all of his souls he had collected when he tried to go to the blacksmith in the Nexus.

[Ecofreak]

Quick question: Is it possible to kill that first demon/boss at the end of the tutorial level? I ask because my one buddy was hacking away at it and had about a tenth of it's health gone when he listened to me and decided to try rolling out of the way of an attack from it.

He got grazed by the club or whatever it wields and it instantly drained all of his health. Suffice to say, I didn't hear the end of it for the rest of the night till he got torched by the one creature later on and died, after which he gave up after realizing he lost all of his souls he had collected when he tried to go to the blacksmith in the Nexus.

From what I remember from listening to the developer interviews, they explicitly made you die at the end of the tutorial to get you ready for your many deaths to come.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

But what happens if someone manages to kill the demon at the end of the tutorial? Does the game crash? About the only thing I'm really not liking thus far with the game(and the main reason I haven't played it in a while) is the lack of the ability to make a hard save of my progress or some sort of checkpoint.

Then again, I played tons of games in prior gens with no real save points and I enjoyed those immensely, especially the 16 bit era ones.

[FriskyTanuki]

I just got this today from Atlus, so I'm testing it out and seeing if I'll be keeping it to play and review or pass it on to a friend to review. I just started working on making a character and it's similar to Oblivion's editor in that you're not making a decent, attractive person to play with. I conducted an experiment to turn all of the nobs to the left and see what comes out of it and I'll post that result in a bit. I'll probably just keeping pushing the random generator until something decent comes up for my actual character.

[theblizzman]

I just got this today from Atlus, so I'm testing it out and seeing if I'll be keeping it to play and review or pass it on to a friend to review. I just started working on making a character and it's similar to Oblivion's editor in that you're not making a decent, attractive person to play with. I conducted an experiment to turn all of the nobs to the left and see what comes out of it and I'll post that result in a bit. I'll probably just keeping pushing the random generator until something decent comes up for my actual character.

If you want an easier go of it I would start as a female Royal. You will start with Soul Arrow, a MP regen item, and eventually will be able to get access to an accessory (only usable by females) that gives you a boost to souls. I imported back in Feb and put in roughly 75+ hours into the game. Well worth the money.

[GeorgeCostanza]

Curious why people have this already. Amazon has it on Oct 7th or something like that. Did atlus do some advance pre sale or something?

[Chibi_Kaji]

Curious why people have this already. Amazon has it on Oct 7th or something like that. Did atlus do some advance pre sale or something?
Nope, Frisky got an early copy since he reviews games for a site.

[ChernobylCow]

Curious why people have this already. Amazon has it on Oct 7th or something like that. Did atlus do some advance pre sale or something?

Others have imports.

[jh6269]

So anyone who has this game, is it like Oblivion other than the character creation? I don't get the impression that the game is open-ended from the trailers, like Oblivion is.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

You can roam around bits and pieces but it's not that open of a world. As for how like Oblivion it is, I can't say since I didn't play much of it.

[theblizzman]

So anyone who has this game, is it like Oblivion other than the character creation? I don't get the impression that the game is open-ended from the trailers, like Oblivion is.

I imported back in February. From a viewpoint it is 3rd person (as opposed to Oblivion's 1st person). The leveling is based on collecting "souls" from defeated foes and when you have enough you go to one person and spend the souls and pick one attribute to level up.

Everyone has their own opinion, but this is hands down my favorite game on the console (I am also a huge fan of the Kings Field series so). The graphics are the best of any game I have played.

There are five "worlds" and a central hub "nexus". Each world has different enemies that will require different tactics (and weapons). You can spend a lot of time grinding to get shards to upgrade weapons, and there is a whole "tendancies" system where as you defeat bosses you shift worlds towards dark or light which opens up previsouly closed areas.

This game is brutally tough. If you get frustrated with dying in games this is not for you. I am praying for DLC

[Ecofreak]

First non-Japanese review is online from GameCritics.com (http://www.gamecritics.com/brad-gallaway/demons-souls-review).

Final Score: Extremely Positive Review

In every aspect, Demon's Souls is fantastically creative and adheres faithfully to its own identity in a way that so many other titles only stumble at. Although players expecting something more conventional may be coldly taken aback by its unflinching boldness and refusal to compromise its vision, those who can see it for what it is and appreciate what it does will find themselves knee-deep in adventure, never wanting to look back. Without question, Demon's Souls is one of 2009's finest titles, and an amazing, challenging journey without equal. Rati

[jh6269]

@theblizzman & cheapest

Thanks for the answers. So, when you level up, can you become a big badass? When you say that you can grind, does that mean that weak enemies stay weak ( as opposed to Oblivion where the enemies get stronger with you)?

I'm interested in this game, but I get pissed when games get too tough, so I know this game will probably drive me insane. However, it looks like an awesome game, so I'm considering getting it when it's in the bargain bin, or used.

[Saint Noir]

This game sounds incredible. I thought after everything that I wasn't going to grab it... but after all the praise I have read and after some of your impressions... I think I have to. Can't wait!

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I love the intro on the import version I have. The music, the visuals, just everything about it is perfect.

[Chibi_Kaji]

I kind of want this game... but I'm not sure I like the games idea of "co-op". I guess I could always just disconnect from PSN and play it that way...

[theblizzman]

@theblizzman & cheapest

Thanks for the answers. So, when you level up, can you become a big badass? When you say that you can grind, does that mean that weak enemies stay weak ( as opposed to Oblivion where the enemies get stronger with you)?

I'm interested in this game, but I get pissed when games get too tough, so I know this game will probably drive me insane. However, it looks like an awesome game, so I'm considering getting it when it's in the bargain bin, or used.

I played as a mage and only leveled str minimally to carry the best shield in the game so I was too weak to wear strong armor so even when I was at the end (I finished around character level 80) if you are not careful enemies can kill you in four hits. Enemies do not level up with you (they are just always difficult until you learn their attack patterns). The one thing in the game you need to get over is dying is no big deal. When I first started the game I was frustrated when I died and lost 500 souls I spent time building (game similar to Diablo in that when you die you leave a bloodstain that if you get back to before you die again you get all of your souls back). Later in the game dying and losing 20,000 souls is no big deal.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

I finally got back into this game last night/this morning. I was testing out a few things for a fellow CAG who might be grabbing it from me and I went through about 2/3's of the first real level after the tutorial and I remembered where all of the traps and major enemies were.

The best character class to play as is a Royal, since you have Soul Arrow and can shoot harder enemies from further away and not have to risk getting annihilated.

It's a fun game if you learn how to get around behind enemies, since then you can just do the kill move and take them out in one shot. I did that on all of the minor enemies just about.

I may try a bit of it again later today and try and finish the game before getting rid of it at this point, since it's one of the better games I've played for PS3(and judging by the trade receipts I have I've gone through almost 40 PS3 games in about a year of owning the console, most of which were bought for way under MSRP).

[Abalistar]

My one concern with the game... Will I lose a lot of the value if I'm not playing online? I lack broadband, so I'd have to be purely solo. :(

[Saint Noir]

Looks super awesome.

Video detailing online aspects...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/demon%E2%80%99s-souls-ps3-video-walkthrough-part-two/

[rgd2blck]

My one concern with the game... Will I lose a lot of the value if I'm not playing online? I lack broadband, so I'd have to be purely solo. :(

You will be missing out on some cool aspects of the game if you are not online.

When you are playing along and you are online but in your own game by yourself, you will come across blood stains where other players have died. When you click on the blood stains, an animation will pop up of the players' last moments, so you can see what they were doing as they died. It will hopefully give you a hint so you can avoid the same death.

Another online perk is the ability to see scripted "notes" on the ground in your own game left by other players in their game. Hopefully the notes give you hints as to what to expect next, like maybe monsters hiding ahead or whether you need something special to progress. You can rate the notes so the good notes stay around longer to help other players and high rated notes give the person who left the note some health.

Additionally, as you play you will see ghostly figures of other players as they are playing the same area as you are in real time but in their own game.

And of course you will miss out on multiplayer stuff like PvP and joining another person's game or summoning help from other players to go through a level.

The online stuff is really well done. There is no voice chat but the way everything listed above is handled voice chat would take away from the overall game.

[Chibi_Kaji]

And of course you will miss out on multiplayer stuff like PvP and joining another person's game or summoning help from other players to go through a level.
That is pretty cool, but my problem with the online is the idea of someone being able to invade my game.

[Saint Noir]

That is pretty cool, but my problem with the online is the idea of someone being able to invade my game.

I think it sounds pretty cool. Also, they don't know who they are invading. So, they may be rolling up on some one who is double their power. That video makes it sound like only people in spirit form can do this as well, and if that's the case they will only have half a life bar. Plus, you could have friends summoned to you and they not know it... totally possible the PKer would just get squished.

It is also mentioned that this won't happen often at all. So, who knows. I would be mad if I kept getting invaded and died... I do know that! :lol:

[rgd2blck]

That is pretty cool, but my problem with the online is the idea of someone being able to invade my game.

Also remember a player can only invade your game if you are alive in body form. If you are in spirit form, which may be more often than you are alive (!), you will be safe.

A preview video I saw put it best: the online components serve to enhance the single-player game.

[StillFree]

My one concern with the game... Will I lose a lot of the value if I'm not playing online? I lack broadband, so I'd have to be purely solo. :(

The online aspect is just a bonus, you can beat and platinum (if you like trophies) this game totally in offline mode.

[theblizzman]

I think it sounds pretty cool. Also, they don't know who they are invading. So, they may be rolling up on some one who is double their power. That video makes it sound like only people in spirit form can do this as well, and if that's the case they will only have half a life bar. Plus, you could have friends summoned to you and they not know it... totally possible the PKer would just get squished.

It is also mentioned that this won't happen often at all. So, who knows. I would be mad if I kept getting invaded and died... I do know that! :lol:

I played through the game and only once had my game invaded. There is a level range (I think it is 10 levels) to stop players from entering your game. Pretty good idea in my opinion that stops people who have already logged 100+ hours entered your game and killed you in one hit.

I have said this before in this forum but I think this is the best game on the system (right up there with Uncharted, Fallout 3, Bioshock). I also loved the Kings Field series.

[Chibi_Kaji]

It is also mentioned that this won't happen often at all. So, who knows. I would be mad if I kept getting invaded and died... I do know that! :lol:
But it's still something that can happen and it annoys me that I have no choice but to play offline to avoid it or play in soul form...

[StillFree]

But it's still something that can happen and it annoys me that I have no choice but to play offline to avoid it or play in soul form...

Actually playing in soul form is a better idea overall since there isn't many good reasons to revive yourself.

[TruthinessFC]

Here's a review (http://www.onelastcontinue.com/11948/demons-souls-review-from-boletaria-with-blood/) of the game if anyone's interested.

[Saint Noir]

I gave in and preordered this. I want to play this when it comes out so that there are more people online at the same time as me!

[Gourd]

Yes, I have this preordered, but I'm sort of... terrified. Terrified that I'm buying a game I will absolutely hate. I haven't taken that risk since I bought Jak 2.

I hope people in this thread will be helpful when I ask questions... Rather than turning into the Uber Ninja Gaiden Horde with responses like: 'That waz teh Easy, u suxxor.'

Honestly, other gamers turn me off hard games. (Jak 2. Ninja Gaiden. Viewtiful Joe. Various others.)

[jrsmaster411]

Viewtiful Joe, That waz teh Easy, u suxxor. :D

[Saint Noir]

Deluxe Edition unboxing.... shows that and artbook/CD. Nice package.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhlr1tAqljk

[enufs8d]

the video was hilarious, especially with atlus pr manager rom taking a whiff of everything. and he set the tone by fondling the "foiled, accented embossed" slipcase cover. and i loved his comment on how you can "relive the songs that you died over and over to."

already ordered my copy. the video was typical of great atlus fan treatment.

[Thongsy]

Jak 2 was hard? I didn't think it was that hard, but I just hated that game and all the sequels. The original was great though. Thanks for the video, it will help me decide whether I want the deluxe edition or not now.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

LMAO That video was hilarious with him whiffing every single item pretty much. I wonder if the guide included in the DE is going to be able to work for the import version or if Atlus ended up changing anything while bringing it here.

If so, I wonder if there's someplace(besides the DE) that I could get the guide by itself for a reasonable amount, since I already have the import and I don't wanna shell out for another copy of the game JUST for the guide.

[happy]

That video has me tempted to get the collector's edition, although I doubt I will really have use for the guide - I'll just find something on gamefaqs if I need, and I'd rather see how far I can get without it... But it is tempting.

[knightsdwn]

Oh god. I thought I was the only one that sniffed the shit out of every new item I buy. Well, almost everything.

I'm even happier that I decided to get the Deluxe Edition now after seeing that video. So now the waiting game begins...

[Snake2715]

Damn guys I am going to jump on the CE I think, great video... I was going to wait, damn guide has me eager to order early...

to gamestop I go.

What is this $70 for the game and guide?

[Saint Noir]

Yeah, 70. Save a lot more on it at Amazon where it is 67 plus use 10% ECA discount. Unless you already have credit at GS.

[Snake2715]

Anyone know when these preorder bonus are going to show?

Muramasa (Wii) had the bonus listed and then 1 of my 3 preorders had it available... so far 3 of the local Gamestops gave me a blank stare and said it should come in the CE case... yeah thats the guide not the preorder bonus...

I know the preorder bonus should come in with the game, if not before... just curious if anyone has gotten one yet, given we are about a week out.

Thanks Saint Noir, I have GS credit or I would use ECA + Amazon for sure.

[Saint Noir]

The bonus should ship with the game but be a separate item. It isn't something GS would have beforehand. So, when they get their orders in, chances are every copy they get initially (preorder or not given how Atlus works) will come with the art book and CD.

[gunm]

ahaha, that "unboxing" vid was great. I lol'd every time the PR guy took a whiff of the products. Cheers to Atlus for their fan service and lack of shame.

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

The bonus should ship with the game but be a separate item. It isn't something GS would have beforehand. So, when they get their orders in, chances are every copy they get initially (preorder or not given how Atlus works) will come with the art book and CD.

But that's before they gut about 10 copies to put out on display on the wall. Then they'll have the 'bonuses' seperate in that way at least.

If I hadn't already splurged and spent most of my GS credit, I would've fully paid off a pre-order there. I can only hope that TRU will get a copy or two of the DE when it releases, since I have about $70 in credit there right now thanks to their trade-in program starting up.

I just wish there were some way to get the guide, other than buying the US version of the game, since all I really need is the damn guide.

[Snake2715]

dump your version... althought its probably too late in the game now as it wouldnt reach someone before the actual game ships..