General Gaming Thread ∞

[whoknows]

Nice. Two birds, one stone.

Someone's had a little too much haterade.

[zewone]

I'm a shoo-in for hater of the year.

[distgfx]

I'm a shoo-in for hater of the year.

You've got some tough competition. Right now you're a at "Good enough to have angry sex with level."

[hankmecrankme]

Eww. . . :puke:

I'm a hater too, but I'm not too vocal about it.

I've been playing Splinter Cell Double Agent on PC. That game is like a homebrew Splinter Cell game. It's got some problems for sure, and it doesn't look as good or play as well as Chaos Theory. Ubi Montreal makes the best SC games by far IMO.

Also, Conviction = vaporware.

[RelentlessRolento]

zew's not a hater, just a wannabe. as always.

[Mr. Anderson]

Even if Lili was atranny, I'd still rip that shit up.

Can't say the same for lady googly eyes or whatever.


Speaking of trannies and post ops, a group of them gave a panel lecture in my sexuality class today. It was quite entertaining, and the class ended in the first drag show I've ever seen. Also entertaining.


Fascinating.

Drag show? Three words:

NEW YORK DOLLS baby!!

Drag rocks, haha.

Since we've gone OTT....

Danm, I'm deaf....... just got back from my friend's album release party.
Little drunk too I guess.
Oh man, his band was intense, think My Bloody Valentine crossed with..... oh shit I can't even think.

And the last band oh man, Ghostcar.... damn, they should huge, not Ghostland Observatory. Wrong local band made it big.
Damn, they blew me away with their set, reminded me so much of James Chance.
One dude was going crazy with the electronics and wore wings on his back. No doubt a mini-Eno.

Does your friend's band have a myspace or something I can listen to? You had me at MBV mixed with anything.

[zewone]

zew's not a hater, just a wannabe. as always.

I'm actually curious as to what you mean by this.

Explain.

[Brak]

What would you call an "artist" who constantly has to state that they are an "artist"? :D

[pete5883]

An artist. I'd say "annoying artist," but that would be redundant.

[Chibi_Kaji]

What would you call an "artist" who constantly has to state that they are an "artist"? :D
Uwe Boll?

[Maklershed]

Your missing the point. I THINK (stressing that since I don't actually know) what myke was getting at is that all too often you throw your OPINION around here as if it is FACT.

You don't say "I think such and such is bad" or "I heard such and such is bad" you say" I KNOW such and such is bad" or "such and such is bad. FACT"


To be fair, 90% of this thread is "_____ is terrible!". :lol:


I'm a shoo-in for hater of the year.


"I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I don't even know you, but I hate you. I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you and only to you." Silky Johnston zewone aka zewone

[DarthPuma]

Wordjong is iPhone crack. Go buy it while it is on sale

[BlueSwim]

Wordjong is iPhone crack. Go buy it while it is on sale
SwiMom got flat out addicted to Word Jong on the DS and I completely understand why. It's a fantastic game and I totally recommend it if it's like what I played on the DS.8-)8-)8-)

[DarthPuma]

It's the daily challenge part of the ds version. I wish it had the other stuff too, but for 3 bucks I really can't complain.

[BlueSwim]

Yeah, it was the daily challenges that had her hooked. If I had an iPhone, I'd totally jump on it at that price.

[mykevermin]

What would you call an "artist" who constantly has to state that they are an "artist"? :D

What they are, depending on the context: trust fund brat, junkie, or both.

I'm a shoo-in for hater of the year.

ehh. You're not putting in quite the effort you used to. You're like early 1990's AC/DC in terms of effort.

So now if you play multiplatform games on 360, you're SO biased.

There's plenty of logical reasons to do so. Controller preference, installs, acievements, established friends, XBL/PSN preference.

In my case all those fall on 360.

Even if I had a ps3 I'd be buying these games for 360 unless the ps3 version was superior, which isn't the case very often.

Unless you're playing exclusives if you own a 360, your bias. FACT. Myke said so.

fear 2 is good. No matter what you are playing it on.

If you OWN multiplatform titles on the 360, bully for you. They're multiplatform (fact. ;))

If you have to vehemently DEFEND the 360 version as the only one worth owning, particularly when you have put no time whatsoever into other versions (other than to, :lol:, "research" their quality - when such research means listening to the kinds of folks who post on message boards and taking their word at face value), and insist upon some inherent valuation that doesn't exist? Then, yeah...you're biased.

You can tell me you own a PSP until you're blue in the face, but given what you've said about it before, it's pretty clear that this is your equivalent of the "I have tons of black friends" defense mechanism of the dunderheaded racist white guy.

Embrace who you are. Accept your bias. Hey, I have a bias, don't I? My bias tells me that there better be some pretty incredible shit available on the 360 version of a title to compel me to buy it over the PS3. So I have Fallout 3 and GTAIV as multiplatforms. There's more content available, so that's logical. But were I to "research" and find that there are 3% more jaggies in one version than another, bias or not - that kind of effort just ain't that interesting to me.

That's what I'm trying to get at: preferences for certain consoles I can understand (well, not in the case of the Wii - but I'll accept that as plausible ;)). Have a preference. But this "rah rah this system sucks and this system rules" crap dichotomous way of living is for two types of people: cheerleaders and talk radio hosts. You don't get paid enough to have such a vociferous disdain for something you don't have much experience owning or using. You can say "I don't like the PS3" until you're blue in the face. But I have a hard time understanding what a console must have done to leave you so offended and insistent that we need to be reminded that you don't like it time and time again. Don't like it. That's your choice and your right. But, for fuck's sake, leave us out of this: we get that you don't like it, and we'll be able to predict that until kingdom fucking come. So stop talking about it like it's the console equivalent of the girlfriend who broke up with you 9 months ago that you never stop talking about.

You ain't convincing *me* you're over her. Stop writing her name on your Trapper Keeper, man.

To be fair, 90% of this thread is "_____ is terrible!". :lol:

Fair enough. I spent the past 3 days lamenting how my <3 for the James Bond franchise led to me playing through all of Quantum of Solace. It's a shit game; but, thankfully, it's not so bad for multiplayer. There better be some custom character skins, though, so I can dress up like Odd Job. But, yeah, the single player was tripe; and it wasn't even "Quantum of Solace." It was "Quantum of solace level for 1 and 2, THEN ALL CASINO ROYALE ALL THE TIME, and back to Quantum of Solace for the final level. Which is cool, b/c CR is a vastly better film than QoS - but a pretty misleading title for a game.

[refusedchaos]

^:rofl:

[-Never4ever-]

FEAR 1 is a lot more fun than I remember the demo being (not fun at all). Reminds me of Max Payne, hopefully that means I can finish it in a few days. Might just pick up FEAR 2 when it's $30 or cheaper, which will probably be around April or so (here's hoping sales tank).

[Brak]

An artist. I'd say "annoying artist," but that would be redundant.

Uwe Boll?

What they are, depending on the context: trust fund brat, junkie, or both.
Daaaaaaang... :hot:

That was kinda rude. You guys should apologize to RelentlessRolento. :cold:

[Chacrana]

Eww. . . :puke:

I'm a hater too, but I'm not too vocal about it.

I've been playing Splinter Cell Double Agent on PC. That game is like a homebrew Splinter Cell game. It's got some problems for sure, and it doesn't look as good or play as well as Chaos Theory. Ubi Montreal makes the best SC games by far IMO.

Also, Conviction = vaporware.

I'm a little surprised how badly Double Agent turned out since Ubisoft Shanghai did Pandora Tomorrow and that was a really good game. It is a shame though, seeing as how Double Agent did have some pretty cool environments... just wish it was fun to explore them.

[BlueScrote]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueScrote
It seems the general consensus is that the Ultimate Genesis Collection is worthwhile.Originally Posted by mykevermin
There was doubt?!?!

I doubt anything that has sonic on the box art.

[-Never4ever-]

But it's old-school Sonic, back when he was cool.

Now if it was that lanky, does alot of coke version of Sonic, then yes you would be in the right.

I remember the days when PHantasy Star 4 alone fetched 30+, now you get it and like 30 other games for $30.

[mykevermin]

I can see how that Pavlovian response would develop over the past 8-9 years.

[Ahadi]

So I'm about five or six hours in to Chrono Trigger and I'm really enjoying it. It doesn't seem as tedious(thus far) as DQIV. What blows my mind about CT though is I ate some dudes lunch and tried to sell a pendent and those actions came back to bite me in the ass! That's wicked neat, but now I'm sort of apprehensive to "turn over every rock" so to say.

And I just picked up a PSP yesterday. I snagged the Daxter bundle at Radioshack. I was on the hunt for the Darth Vader bundle, so I'm going to check another Radioshack before I bust it open. But can you guys steer me towards some games? I was thinking of grabbing Star Ocean and maybe God of War. Any suggestions?

[pimpinc333]

So I'm about five or six hours in to Chrono Trigger and I'm really enjoying it. It doesn't seem as tedious(thus far) as DQIV. What blows my mind about CT though is I ate some dudes lunch and tried to sell a pendent and those actions came back to bite me in the ass! That's wicked neat, but now I'm sort of apprehensive to "turn over every rock" so to say.

And I just picked up a PSP yesterday. I snagged the Daxter bundle at Radioshack. I was on the hunt for the Darth Vader bundle, so I'm going to check another Radioshack before I bust it open. But can you guys steer me towards some games? I was thinking of grabbing Star Ocean and maybe God of War. Any suggestions?

I recommend:

Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered UP!
Jeanne D'Arc
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Crisis Core

[SL4IN]

Hot Shots Golf Open Tee 2.

[Chacrana]

I recommend:

Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered UP!
Jeanne D'Arc
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Crisis Core

I found myself really disappointed with Jeanne D'Arc, but I'll second all those other games. Only other domestic game that's definitely worth having IMO is Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.

[SL4IN]

The most 2 most disappointing things with Jeanne D'Arc was first, when the character (spoiler ahead) Roger just up and left your party, then he comes back later in the game and is completely useless, does zero damage most of the time and the game forces you play with him. It really sucked too, because Roger was my favorite character up until that point.. And the second thing being that when you fight bosses in the game, it usually results in 3 or 4 back to back fights without any break in between, so be sure to stock up on potions before you head in.

[Ahadi]

I almost grabbed FFT at GS for like $12, but I'm real hesitant with grid games like that. But I suppose for $12, I could have easily gotten my moneys worth. Back in the days of my ol' PSP, I knocked out Maverick Hunter and Powered Up, and I loved those to death. I do think I'll look into the Castlevania Chronicles. That's a series I think I need to give more attention to.

I'm probably going to pick up Battlefront 2 today when I go to Wally World. So excited.

[Chacrana]

I almost grabbed FFT at GS for like $12, but I'm real hesitant with grid games like that. But I suppose for $12, I could have easily gotten my moneys worth. Back in the days of my ol' PSP, I knocked out Maverick Hunter and Powered Up, and I loved those to death. I do think I'll look into the Castlevania Chronicles. That's a series I think I need to give more attention to.

I'm probably going to pick up Battlefront 2 today when I go to Wally World. So excited.

Well I wouldn't pick up Battlefront 2 ever, but that's just me.

FFT is one of the very few turn based strategy games that I enjoy. I really liked stuff like Disgaea at first, but I couldn't stomach more than a few hours of it... it's like every strat game that game after FFT gradually got worse and worse.

[Ahadi]

Well I wouldn't pick up Battlefront 2 ever, but that's just me.

FFT is one of the very few turn based strategy games that I enjoy. I really liked stuff like Disgaea at first, but I couldn't stomach more than a few hours of it... it's like every strat game that game after FFT gradually got worse and worse.

Hmm... Well your impression of Disgaea is pretty much the same as mine. So maybe I'll check out Tactics. $12 isn't a pricey risk.

And I love Battlefront 2. I love the idea of playing it on the go.

[Chacrana]

I just feel like almost all of the really graphically intense games on the PSP just feel incredibly janky. I mean, the idea of having console games in a portable setting is kinda cool, but I dunno... after playing stuff like Outrun on the PSP, I realized that I'd rather just play nothing while I'm gone, and then actually enjoy the game when I'm at home.

Dffrnt Strokes.

[dallow]

Best PSP games are Everyday Shooter and Taiko no Tatsujin 1 & 2.

[jer7583]

I own a ps2, too. Is that like saying oh but I have gay friends?

Genesis collection. Hot.

Does it bug the shit out of anyone else how the guide freezes up all the time now for like 20 seconds before responding? I think it crashes TF2 sometimes too when I'm hosting.

I hope they clean that up in a spring update.

[jer7583]

Pursuit force games are good on psp. Otherwise, custom firmware or it's a useless device.

[Chacrana]

So what kind of bonus materials are there on the Genesis Collection? Specifically for the good games.

[mykevermin]

I own a ps2, too. Is that like saying oh but I have gay friends?

Oh, gotcha. You do love Sony after all, and support their products and games. My bad.

Pursuit force games are good on psp. Otherwise, custom firmware or it's a useless device.

:-s

Do you contradict yourself on purpose within minutes of each other to get me to call you out and waste time in my day, or are you just a blithering idiot?

(strangely, I agree with the assessment of the need for CFW on PSP; until Sony allows you to install your own PSX games on the memory stick, or until they actually get off their asses and release PSX games on the PSN.)

So what kind of bonus materials are there on the Genesis Collection? Specifically for the good games.

Shinobi arcade. There's other stuff, too, like "Congo Bongo" and the like, but...SHINOBI ARCADE. "welcome to the bonus stage!"

[Chacrana]

Fuck yeah there's Shinobi arcade, but are there interviews or scans of manuals and promotional materials and stuff.

Make no mistake - Shinobi arcade made it clear that I would be buying this game. I'm just wondering what I'm getting aside from that.

[Rei no Otaku]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't, and never did, think Shinobi arcade was that good.

[Azumangaman]

Get Locoroco. I can't wait to go and buy Locoroco2 when I have more money.
OR when I go on my crazy trade in adventure.
Seriously though, Locoroco, God Of Wair: Chains Of Olympus, Crisis Core and Patapon (along with the Syphon Filter games) are awesome.

[Chacrana]

Syphon Filter was okay back in February 1999. It was basically MGS for the homeless. Nowadays? Hoo boy, that shit's nigh-unplayable.

[Rei no Otaku]

No one mentioned DJ Max? That's messed up.

[DarthPuma]

I'm going to go see if my BB still has any decent cheap gamecube games. I was gonna grab Metroid Prime at hastings but that shit was 18 bucks.

I really want to find a cheap Baiten Kaitos too.

[mykevermin]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't, and never did, think Shinobi arcade was that good.

Lady GaGa is an unimaginative poser who has fulfilled every pop cliche within weeks of having semi-fame. If I were able to manufacture a "paint by numbers" kit for a pop-star, the finished product would be her.

Just sayin' that your taste was questionable before. Shinobi is the finest ninja game I can think of, and it even holds up today. Is it amazing? Nah; but it is my childhood, and plays better today than...D-Cap Attack or some of the other selections.

Fuck yeah there's Shinobi arcade, but are there interviews or scans of manuals and promotional materials and stuff.

Make no mistake - Shinobi arcade made it clear that I would be buying this game. I'm just wondering what I'm getting aside from that.

Dunno. Haven't looked at the extras. Prolly not, but I'll find out later.

Syphon Filter was okay back in February 1999. It was basically MGS for the homeless. Nowadays? Hoo boy, that shit's nigh-unplayable.

But we get that, while Japan gets PSN versions of damn near every Square-Enix title not called "Final Fantasy" for $6.

[Rei no Otaku]

Lady GaGa is an unimaginative poser who has fulfilled every pop cliche within weeks of having semi-fame. If I were able to manufacture a "paint by numbers" kit for a pop-star, the finished product would be her.

Just sayin' that your taste was questionable before. Shinobi is the finest ninja game I can think of, and it even holds up today. Is it amazing? Nah; but it is my childhood, and plays better today than...D-Cap Attack or some of the other selections.
:rofl:

Did I hurt your feelings?

Though you're right in that it plays better than most of the stuff in the collection. Problem being that other than PS4, SoR2, and Sonic 2 none of the stuff in it holds up well.

[dallow]

Jer does consistently miss the point, myke. :)

[Maklershed]

We're 9 short days away from KZ2 dallowmang.

[mykevermin]

:rofl:

Did I hurt your feelings?

Though you're right in that it plays better than most of the stuff in the collection. Problem being that other than PS4, SoR2, and Sonic 2 none of the stuff in it holds up well.

No. Don't take me seriously in how I word things, just the (in this case), game related context. I just take the openings I see, mang. ;)

She is pretty lousy, though. But I like music that sounds like Agathocles, just to give you context.

Driving back from WV/MD the other day, my iPod (on shuffle) went Amebix->Johnny Cash->Public Enemy->Kylie Minogue->Slapshot. Just scattered my brain, waffle house trash browns style.

Jer does consistently miss the point, myke. :)

But he has a PS2! How can I fight that rock solid logic?

[ninja dog]

There are a bunch of interviews on Ultimate Genesis Collection. haven't watched them...but I keep unlocking them.


No manual scans though....'cause Backbone is lazy as shit.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't, and never did, think Shinobi arcade was that good.


No, I am with you.
Most of these genesis games are better as memories.
Just as most old games should be.

SUGC kinda sucks.

[ninja dog]

The Golden Axe and Phantasy Star games are serious casualties of time. I used to be jealous of Genesis owning friends over these games!

There are some stinkers on there, but Streets of Rage series, Comix Zone, Sonic series, Decap Attack, Shinobi arcade, Shinobi 3, Dynamite Heady, and Vector Man 1+2 are all pretty awesome.


The comp has a serious lack of fucking afterburner though. how the fuck did Fatal Labyrinth make it, but not one of the Afterburner games?

[Azumangaman]

Prince Of Persia is so much fun!
I don't understand what peoples problem is...
I'm pretty sure I'm a bit over the halfway point.
I should be done in a couple days, then I'll trade it in for $40!
Collecting Light Seeds blows though.
The conversations between NAMELESS man and Elika are fantastic.

[Halo05]

I still love the Golden Axe games. Well, not Golden Axe 3 but shit, no one could've liked that back in 1993.

[The Crotch]

I still love the Golden Axe games. Well, not Golden Axe 3 but shit, no one could've liked that back in 1993.You die now.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Chrono Trigger DS last night, went from The Magic Cave to the Tyranno place after beating Magus in the Fiendlord's Keep. Dig it.

[Chacrana]

Picked up my copy of Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection. I was pretty amazed - there were 3 copies at the store yesterday, and there was only one today. I really don't know who's buying these compilations...

Well, whatever. Can't play the thing till tomorrow and I'll have to use the 360 controller for a while, but it should still be a lot of fun.

[Mr. Beef]

Hey Rei, gimme the names of 2 songs that an average joe such as myself would enjoy from Lady Goodburger, or whatever her name is. I wanna give her a chance before I make an opinion.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Hey Rei, gimme the names of 2 songs that an average joe such as myself would enjoy from Lady Goodburger, or whatever her name is. I wanna give her a chance before I make an opinion.

MMMM'bop, Hit me Baby one more time.

[Rei no Otaku]

Hey Rei, gimme the names of 2 songs that an average joe such as myself would enjoy from Lady Goodburger, or whatever her name is. I wanna give her a chance before I make an opinion.
"LoveGame" and "Poker Face" are probably my favorites, but the whole album is good.

Here's an acoustic version of Poker Face which I think I might like better than the original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwdXnlvUe3I

[ZerotypeX]

^^

Just Dance, is a good one

[hankmecrankme]

Today I'm playing some more SC Ghetto Agent. NSA already hates me for killing every prison guard. They won't be too happy today.

[Mr. Beef]

That "Poker Face" video just now? Hated it. She sounded like what's-her-name from SNL when she would play the character who kept yelling she was "FIFTY! FIFTY YEARS OLD!" Plus, it didn't help that she had that glitter shit on her face that all ugly chicks insist on putting on themselves.

"LoveGame" was alright, though. Lady Coocookatchoo seems like one of those artists that I would listen to for a couple of songs, forget about them, then a month or two later, remember that I used to like them, and give them another chance. Kinda like Rihanna.

[corrosivefrost]

Picked up my copy of Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection. I was pretty amazed - there were 3 copies at the store yesterday, and there was only one today. I really don't know who's buying these compilations...

Well, whatever. Can't play the thing till tomorrow and I'll have to use the 360 controller for a while, but it should still be a lot of fun.

Analog stick works great as far as what I've played...

[Chacrana]

Analog stick works great as far as what I've played...

Honestly, I just can't stand using the stick for 2D games. I've tried, but I can't do it. I can put up with the 360 controller for another week... hopefully I'll manage to score a fightpad by then.

As far as Lady Gaga goes, yes she looks like a tranny, but I do like that Just Dance song. Guilty.

[corrosivefrost]

Honestly, I just can't stand using the stick for 2D games. I've tried, but I can't do it. I can put up with the 360 controller for another week... hopefully I'll manage to score a fightpad by then.

As far as Lady Gaga goes, yes she looks like a tranny, but I do like that Just Dance song. Guilty.

If there were fighting games or something, that'd be one story, but I'm cool with the analog for platformers and puzzle games and such.

The only thing I would like about the fightpad would be the oldschool genesis button configuration, but I don't need to drop $40 just for a "classic" controller...

[RelentlessRolento]

PSP is good fun. It's the only system with good kill stuff to make stuff to kill stuff games.

[Jimbo Slice]

PSP is good fun. It's the only system with good kill stuff to make stuff to kill stuff games.

Monster Hunter?

[Jimbo Slice]

And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.

[Rei no Otaku]

Finally tried the KZ2 demo. I don't like it.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.

Hell no.
Worst WRPG I have ever played.

[whoknows]

I was at Circuit City today and they had a 360 for $224. I was so close to getting it, but passed since I can't think of really any exclusives I really wanted to play.

Well besides some of the shmups on XBLA.

I still want it though...don't know why :-P

[Trakan]

And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.

No.

[zewone]

Monster Hunter?
And Phantasy Star Portable.
And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.

No.

[RelentlessRolento]

Monster Hunter?


as well as a butt load of other similar titles.

[Rei no Otaku]

And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.
Yes.

[whoknows]

I played Fable 2 co-op with someone awhile ago and saw the ending of the game. Worst ending ever.

It was kinda fun though...maybe. Not fun that I'd pay money to play though.

[zewone]

as well as a butt load of other similar titles.

What others?

[Azumangaman]

Hey Rei, gimme the names of 2 songs that an average joe such as myself would enjoy from Lady Goodburger, or whatever her name is. I wanna give her a chance before I make an opinion.
I'm not Rei, but Paparazzi and Lovegame are my favourites. Just Dance, Poker Face and almost everything else on the album is good as well.
Good fun.

[DarthPuma]

50 minute epilogue cutscene time!

[corrosivefrost]

And damn... does Fable II ever get good? I just finished the first dungeon.

No.

And Phantasy Star Portable.

No.

I'm with Trakan, Zew, and Flood -- NO.

Yes.

You're in the minority... surprise! :P

[Mr. Beef]

I'm not Rei, but Paparazzi and Lovegame are my favourites. Just Dance, Poker Face and almost everything else on the album is good as well.
Good fun.I'll probably give most of the album a listen sometime this week if I have the time. She's certainly not the worst artist I've ever heard, but I could definitely hear the studio working in LoveGame.

50 minute epilogue cutscene time!

Was it really 50 minutes long? The time completely flew by when I was watching it.

[Azumangaman]

Fable 2 was ok. Had some high points (wait, did it? I think sleeping with people was the only part that was funny. That and having multiple wives/husbands) but was mostly very glitchy.
It was a very disappointing game, but I got it for free, so I was amused by it. I love when stores start all new trade in programs and have the most insane TIVS!

[RelentlessRolento]

What others?


I was expecting someone to ask:

MHF
MHF2
MHF2U
Phantasy Star P
Dungeon Maker
Dungeon Maker 2
Valhalla Knights
Valhalla Knights 2
Dungeon Siege
Untold Legends
Untold Legends II
Marvel UA
X-men (something)
Alien Sydrome
Bounty Hounds
Rengoku
Rengoku II
Warriors of the Lost Empire
Dungeon Explorer


there's others but I forget.

[zewone]

Which of those are any good though?

I already have MHF2U and PSP.

[DarthPuma]

Aaaand the credits roll.

I guess that's my GOTY 2008. Sorry Fallout.

[zewone]

Persona 4.

[RelentlessRolento]

Which of those are any good though?

I already have MHF2U and PSP.


not everyone will like them since it's a teeth grinding genre but the better ones are:

Valhalla Knights 2
Dungeon Maker 2
Phantasy S P
Dungeon Siege
Marvel UA


it's a niche genre I'll admit, but the PSP is the best fitted for it.

I'm guessing you aren't that far into MHF2U.

[whoknows]

Aaaand the credits roll.

I guess that's my GOTY 2008. Sorry Fallout.

MGS4?

If so, yeah. That is an amazing game. Possibly my favorite of 2008, but I also loved Valkyria Chronicles...and DMC4.

It's one of the top 3 at least.

[RelentlessRolento]

NMH GoTY even with its flaws.

[Chacrana]

lol, Rengoku. That was a winner.

[zewone]

Persona 4, NMH, MGS4, and Valkyria Chronicles.

No, I'm not that far into Monster Hunter. I'm not a big fan of playing loot games by myself, so while I like that the PSP has a lot of games, very few if any have official online play.

The last two loot games I got into were easier since they had online (KUF:COD and Too Human).

Does Monster Hunter 3 have online? I am seriously contemplating picking up a Wii for that title alone.

[DarthPuma]

Oh god dammit, more cutscenes after the credits. I took a shower when the credits started so I've missed most of this little set of scenes. Is there a cutscene viewer in the game somewhere now, or can I watch them on that pre order disk or something?

[whoknows]

lol, Rengoku. That was a winner.

Ya it was. I played through it twice and pre-ordered the sequel, which I also played through twice.

Best handheld games ever!

[zewone]

Oh god dammit, more cutscenes after the credits. I took a shower when the credits started so I've missed most of this little set of scenes. Is there a cutscene viewer in the game somewhere now, or can I watch them on that pre order disk or something?

Nope. You'll have to beat the game again.

[Rei no Otaku]

Everyone knows to wait until the credits are over.

[corrosivefrost]

Nope. You'll have to beat the game again.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mr. Beef]

:lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Persona 4, NMH, MGS4, and Valkyria Chronicles.

No, I'm not that far into Monster Hunter. I'm not a big fan of playing loot games by myself, so while I like that the PSP has a lot of games, very few if any have official online play.

The last two loot games I got into were easier since they had online (KUF:COD and Too Human).

Does Monster Hunter 3 have online? I am seriously contemplating picking up a Wii for that title alone.

I am pretty sure the Wii one does have online.

I still think Capcom would make alot more money by releasing a new MH on the PSP with online play. I can see it happening eventually, but not as soon as it should have.

[seanr1221]

Persona 4, NMH, MGS4, and Valkyria Chronicles.


Those are your 08 GotY?

No Gears?

[RelentlessRolento]

Gears is no where near GotY. Fun game but alot of things holding it back.

who in their right mind leaves during credits in a MGS game? there's always more.

[suko_32]

who in their right mind leaves during credits in a MGS game? there's always more.

This.

[DarthPuma]

I'll just youtube it.

[corrosivefrost]

Gears is no where near GotY. Fun game but alot of things holding it back.

who in their right mind leaves during credits in a MGS game? there's always more.

Quiet you. You like Braid. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Quiet you. You like Braid. :lol:


I'll go back to playing Flower then... :-#

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Persona 4, NMH, MGS4, and Valkyria Chronicles.

No, I'm not that far into Monster Hunter. I'm not a big fan of playing loot games by myself, so while I like that the PSP has a lot of games, very few if any have official online play.

The last two loot games I got into were easier since they had online (KUF:COD and Too Human).

Does Monster Hunter 3 have online? I am seriously contemplating picking up a Wii for that title alone.

I agree with your GOTY list 100%.

[RelentlessRolento]

Madworld is already GoTY for Wii... sad.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

There is some other good stuff coming out for wii, but madworld might be GOTY regardless of platform.

[ninja dog]

Oh god dammit, more cutscenes after the credits. I took a shower when the credits started so I've missed most of this little set of scenes. Is there a cutscene viewer in the game somewhere now, or can I watch them on that pre order disk or something?


you missed the part where they retconned the entire series.

[pete5883]

But I have a hard time understanding what a console must have done to leave you so offended and insistent that we need to be reminded that you don't like it time and time again.
I'm pretty sure it's the price. Which is sad.

[DarthPuma]

Listening to you guys constantly complaining about Jer is roughly 950 times worse than his complaining about the PS3.

[pete5883]

Is The Crotch still around? I just started Fallout 2.

[zewone]

I started flower last night and didn't stop playing til I beat it. Great "game". I like it more than flow.

[ninja dog]

Listening to you guys constantly complaining about Jer is roughly 950 times worse than his complaining about the PS3.

this.

[whoknows]

Complaining about the complaining about Jer isn't much better.

[Ahadi]

I still think Capcom would make alot more money by releasing a new MH on the PSP with online play. I can see it happening eventually, but not as soon as it should have.

Is there a program you can run on a computer to get Monster Hunter online? Or am I making things up in my crazy head?

I'm going to look at PSN games that I can rock on my PSP. Any suggestions while I'm in the shopping mood?

[pete5883]

I started flower last night and didn't stop playing til I beat it. Great "game". I like it more than flow.
Same here, I thought flOw was pretty stupid.
Is there a program you can run on a computer to get Monster Hunter online? Or am I making things up in my crazy head?
Xlink Kai?

[DarthPuma]

I started flower last night and didn't stop playing til I beat it. Great "game". I like it more than flow.

I still haven't found a gameshare group for it. How long was it?

[manthing]

Shinobi arcade. There's other stuff, too, like "Congo Bongo" and the like, but...SHINOBI ARCADE. "welcome to the bonus stage!"

Shinobi Arcade is the best thing on that compilation, but badmouth Sega's 'Donkey Clone' again and I'll cut you

:bomb:

[ninja dog]

Complaining about the complaining about Jer isn't much better.


Complaining about the complaining about the compl..nm.

[whoknows]

:lol:

[Jest]

Pumie, I'd gameshare it with out. It would cost more (Canadian dollar) if I bought it though.

[Ahadi]

Same here, I thought flOw was pretty stupid.


flOw was cool for like three minutes.


Xlink Kai?

Sure?

Is it an easy program to set up and use? Are there enough MH players to justify looking in to grabbing the game and setting up Xlink Kai?

[RelentlessRolento]

I started flower last night and didn't stop playing til I beat it. Great "game". I like it more than flow.


flow felt too limited IMHO. it was supposed to be relaxing but when controls and level size limitations get in the way it's not a good thing.

but I say flower is not a "game" but a game. there's a distinctive goal, an enemy, an beginning and an end.

it's not at all a non-game.

[manthing]

'Flower' is for drunks and stoners.

Like Katamari and SOTC

[whoknows]

Katamari yes, but SoTC is actually a good game.

[KingBroly]

So..did 2 things today besides play more Burnout Paradise. #1, I got all 200g in Castle Crashers (my thumbs are insanely sore) and did some online for Banjo. God that game has the worst online system ever. I mean, why does teaming up with a buddy for team play PUT ME IN A SOLO RACE!?

[zewone]

SotC > Mangthang

[RelentlessRolento]

7 More Killer Cases

ICO of the Colossi

Final Trigger: Dragon Musashi

Street Stalker: Project Strike

PataRappa Lammy Loco

Grand Revolver: The Manhunt

[manthing]

SotC > Mangthang


I like SotC.

But it's easier to explain the appeal to stoner/drunks than normal people.

Normal people don't understand SotC

[RelentlessRolento]

tell me what normal is. I have time to kill.

[KingBroly]

If SotC had a stable framerate (especially during the last battle where the damn thing drops to 5fps) I would've enjoyed it much more. But because of the framerate issues, I thought the game was just "okay".

[manthing]

Not you doble R.

[distgfx]

If SotC had a stable framerate (especially during the last battle where the damn thing drops to 5fps) I would've enjoyed it much more. But because of the framerate issues, I thought the game was just "okay".

I somehow feel this will be eternally quoted... but I didn't realize it was the framerate dipping, I thought it was just a dramatic effect since it happened at epic moments. :rofl:

[Mr. Beef]

Boxxy Knight > Boxy Brown > New Unnamed Box

And yeah, I thought SotC was that way on purpose, too.

[distgfx]

Boxxy Knight > Boxy Brown > New Unnamed Box

And yeah, I thought SotC was that way on purpose, too.

1. Say what?

2. Say what? Thank god I'm not the only one thought so.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Does SOTC work on pcsx2?
Might be able to solve these problems.

[whoknows]

I beat FEAR 2. Such an awesome game. The ending was weird as hell though.


Still, I <3 it.

[Jest]

FEAR 2 > HOME confirmed.

[Moxio]

I wish FEAR2 was better. :|

[refusedchaos]

I beat FEAR 2. Such an awesome game. The ending was weird as hell though.


Still, I <3 it.

trade/sell it to me XD

[whoknows]

I wish FEAR2 was better. :|

But at the end the guy you play as gets RAPED

What more could you want?

[jer7583]

I like how the enemies in FEAR2 hobble around when you hit them in the legs or arms.

And how the dudes with the backpacks pop open when you hit said backpacks. Fun stuff.

[distgfx]

trade/sell it to me XD

So you can give it to me.

I like how the enemies in FEAR2 hobble around when you hit them in the legs or arms.

And how the dudes with the backpacks pop open when you hit said backpacks. Fun stuff.

... oh really? ... do go on.

[SL4IN]

I somehow feel this will be eternally quoted... but I didn't realize it was the framerate dipping, I thought it was just a dramatic effect since it happened at epic moments. :rofl:

What did you think all that motion blur effect that was caked on the game was used for?

[distgfx]

What did you think all that motion blur effect that was caked on the game was used for?

Good point, it did a good job of masking the bad framerate.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Fear 2 is fun stuff, too bad its consolized to hell.
No Quick Save, No Lean, Letter box 16:10 support.
GTFO.

[whoknows]

Those complaints are lame. Checkpoints are pretty much around every corner.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Those complaints are lame. Checkpoints are pretty much around every corner.

No its a valid complaint since Fear 1 had it.

It has been toned down for the console, enemies aren't as smart as Fear 1 it seems, and this stupid grain filter is annoying as hell.

[DarthPuma]

If anyone has any AAA gamecube games they wanna let go cheap, send me a PM. There is a lot I need to catch up on.

I saw someone say they had Viewtiful Joe but I can't find the post.

[whoknows]

No its a valid complaint since Fear 1 had it.

It has been toned down for the console, enemies aren't as smart as Fear 1 it seems, and this stupid grain filter is annoying as hell.

Guess I'm just not as nitpicky as some people ;)

[ninja dog]

I never used lean and don't understand the point of it. that extra centimeter you gain from leaning is never the difference between life and death...

[suko_32]

If anyone has any AAA gamecube games they wanna let go cheap, send me a PM. There is a lot I need to catch up on.

I saw someone say they had Viewtiful Joe but I can't find the post.

You can get VJ1 for $2.99 used at GS.

[Rei no Otaku]

I never used lean and don't understand the point of it. that extra centimeter you gain from leaning is never the difference between life and death...
Exactly.

[jer7583]

I did use the lean in FEAR1, but the gun-sight aiming is a worthy trade.

I think the enemies are about the same. I'm playing on hard though.

It's probably a difference in how the areas are a lot more open now too. FEAR1 had tighter AI cause the spaces were smaller, i think.

[whoknows]

The spaces were a lot smaller in FEAR 1. I don't feel that the enemies are dumber in any case.

FEAR 2 = Awesome though. I loved Walking around where the nuke went off and seeing the people all burned and stuff.

[jer7583]

Yeah I don't think they're dumber, you just are able to shoot them easier since the areas are bigger. In FEAR1 dudes were always all up close and able to rush you and stuff.

I actually like using the pistol a lot in FEAR 2. i'm only on interval 3 yet though.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I never used lean and don't understand the point of it. that extra centimeter you gain from leaning is never the difference between life and death...

When you arent playing on the pussy difficulty it can be.

[Mr. Beef]

Like suko said, Viewtiful Joe is $2.99 at GS. But if you can't find it for some reason, I'll give it to you. Lemme know if you don't find it.

[hankmecrankme]

Lean plus zoom plus slomo in FEAR was such a lethal combo. I used the lean all the time in it, getting headshots around the corner.

[ninja dog]

When you arent playing on the pussy difficulty it can be.


played it on hard, mr. tough hardcore gamer dude :roll: lean button vs. quick strafe in and out...go! lean button is lame and awkward, strafing feels natural and superior.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

played it on hard, mr. tough hardcore gamer dude :roll: lean button vs. quick strafe in and out...go! lean button is lame and awkward, strafing feels natural and superior.

Lets have a duel!

[ninja dog]

you're already dead!

[FloodsAreUponUS]

you're already dead!

bang!

[mykevermin]

All-day grading, little time for gaming. Whored some trophies in the Sonic collection, and now I want to play Phantasy Star 1 again - the last time I played through it, it was on the GBA collection, which had a unique feature exclusive to the GBA collection: it arbitrarily deleted your game save.

[Rei no Otaku]

Played a lot of Tomb Raider Underworld and Onechanbara today. Had fun with both of them. I think I'm liking Onechanbara more than I should...

[distgfx]

All-day grading, little time for gaming. Whored some trophies in the Sonic collection, and now I want to play Phantasy Star 1 again - the last time I played through it, it was on the GBA collection, which had a unique feature exclusive to the GBA collection: it arbitrarily deleted your game save.

:rofl:

Must of taken years to add that in. The algorithm of what the perfect time is to piss someone off. The pseudocode alone would drive a man insane as he'd have to feel out how angry someone would be at each iteration. Poor guy probably went home and hung himself with rusty barb while trying to saw directly down the middle of his skull. He had a good night, was fully refreshed and went back to attempting suicide. It took so many months to do it, that in the end, the PTtPSO Algorythim was scrabbed because of budget cuts. To replace this feature, they simply allowed the game's buffer to fuck up the saves or purposely opened the file just to put a few new bits here and there. Fuck... I won't remember what I wrote until tomorrow, I'll proofread it there, too tired.

Played a lot of Tomb Raider Underworld and Onechanbara today. Had fun with both of them. I think I'm liking Onechanbara more than I should...

I unfortunately didn't have as much fun as I thought, but it was still an improvement from the PS2 version.

[Mr. Beef]

:( One of Lady Gaga's songs was in my head all day today.

Playing MGS4 again, this time listening to those podcasts you can download. They're pretty funny, and there's some shit I didn't know about. Like in Act 2 when you're tracking Naomi, you can find a "Walk of Fame" slab with Kojima's signature on it. That secret in particular wasn't very hard to find, but I was trying to get the hell out of that area anyways, so I didn't bother following the handprints during my first playthrough.

[Maklershed]

8 days to KZ2! :bouncy:

[FloodsAreUponUS]

1 day until SF4, the game of the forever.

[pete5883]

This is going to become the SF4 thread, isn't it?

[xDARKx Knight]

8 days to KZ2! :bouncy:

Dont you mean eleven?

You guys in America get it on the 27th dont you, like us UK guys.

[Maklershed]

Dont you mean eleven?

You guys in America get it on the 27th dont you, like us UK guys.


Ahh shit you're right. :bomb:

[FloodsAreUponUS]

This is going to become the SF4 thread, isn't it?

Probably not because the real peeps keep it down in the FGT. 8-)

[xDARKx Knight]

This is going to become the SF4 thread, isn't it?

I really hope not :-|

Ahh shit you're right. :bomb:

Im sorry lol...you can take your anger out on me on Killzone 2. But you have to wait ELEVEN days lol :-P

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Okay this will turn into the SF4 thread.

[xDARKx Knight]

NOOOOOOO!

lol :)

[benjamouth]

Ahh shit you're right. :bomb:

Hey Mak, I watched Manos on Friday night, damn that Ep gets funnier every time I watch it. Also watched Manhunt in Space, it was ok but nothing startling.

Gamed a lot this weekend, got most of the cheese on Sonics UGC, everything except the cheesemint for completing Dr Robotnick's Mean Bean Machine, just can't beat the last level:bomb:

Played some Baja 1000, Lego Indiana Jones and UEFA Champs League 06-07. Also co-oped some Gears 2 with a mate on Hardcore.

[Maklershed]

Hey Mak, I watched Manos on Friday night, damn that Ep gets funnier every time I watch it. Also watched Manhunt in Space, it was ok but nothing startling.



I watched I Accuse My Parents and Boggy Creek II. :)

I haven't put my order in for XIV yet. I have to do that soon. Thankfully I have a $50 Amazon GC sitting here waiting to be used.

[ninja dog]

STREEEEET FIGHTER IV44444444444444444!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIIIIIIISSSSS WEEEKK!!!! TWO MORE DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSS!!!! DADDDY'S BACK BITCHES!!!!!!!

[mykevermin]

whatever.

[ninja dog]

whatever.


well, in more exciting news, I disabled avs and sigs for work. I like it so much, I decided to keep it. Anyone else do this? :)

[benjamouth]

I watched I Accuse My Parents and Boggy Creek II. :)

I haven't put my order in for XIV yet. I have to do that soon. Thankfully I have a $50 Amazon GC sitting here waiting to be used.

The Joel Eps on it aren't that great, Manhunt in Space was ok I guess, I'm hoping the 2 Mike Eps will be better.

Has anyone heard anything about the online play on SF4, are there any doubts about it, like lag problems or crappy matchmaking or such ?

[KingBroly]

In other news...

BURNOUT PARADISE LEGENDARY CARS THIS THURSDAY!

[BlueSwim]

HOW MUCH?!?!?

[FloodsAreUponUS]

in other words no one cares about burnout. moving on.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYY!

**gutter trash**

[Rei no Otaku]

This is going to become the SF4 thread, isn't it?
I hope not. I'm looking forward to the game, but not that much. I still don't like the art style, and I still vastly prefer SNK to Capcom.

[RelentlessRolento]

Sfiv In Home Goty !!!!!!!!!!!!! Home + Sfiv!!!! Fuck Baby!

[mykevermin]

fuck baby?

[zewone]

Street Fighter 4 is now a meme.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: at zew ava change.

no hatin, just seeing everyone going all SF on CAG. much love.

[mykevermin]

Street Fighter 4 is now a meme.

Used in what context?

(I know I shouldn't ask that question.)

[zewone]

:lol: at zew ava change.

no hatin, just seeing everyone going all SF on CAG. much love.
Everyone's excited. There hasn't been a new SF in 10 years. I've been playin' the hell out of IV. Sakura is a beast.
Used in what context?

(I know I shouldn't ask that question.)

I have no idea.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Hey guys how many days until Street Fighter 4?

[SL4IN]

Nice. This is a good week, Fire Emblem tomorrow and Burnout cars on Thursday.

[corrosivefrost]

Screw you sonic spinball.
Screw you columns.

[corrosivefrost]

I hope not. I'm looking forward to the game, but not that much. I still don't like the art style, and I still vastly prefer SNK to Capcom.

I'm with you on the art style... and let me say it doesn't quite feel right. I'm not sure why. It reminds me more of SF:EX than anything else maybe. :\

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Fire Emblem on DS is ugly as fuck.

Fuck your retro-famicom style.

This game is barebones as hell for Fire Emblem. Buying weapons during battles? FAIL, No Support Convos? FAIL, no Bonus EXP, FAIL.

Least the core is still solid. I know its a "remake" but it feels like they did it on the cheap and as fast as they could.

UGH. Once again Nintendo disappoints. The story also sucks a big one.

[mykevermin]

Screw you sonic spinball.
Screw you columns.

Cheesemint whorin'?

save states, mon ami.

And good luck with the Mean Bean Machine.

[ninja dog]

I'm with you on the art style... and let me say it doesn't quite feel right. I'm not sure why. It reminds me more of SF:EX than anything else maybe. :\


the only way it's like EX is that it's 2.5D

[FloodsAreUponUS]

The people who complain about SF4s art like things like Onechambararararg, and Ar Tonelico, so something is amiss.

Whoever compared 4 to EX....:rofl:

[corrosivefrost]

the only way it's like EX is that it's 2.5D

Feels like EX to me. EX moves, looks 3D plays 2D, it feels... loose, which is how I remember EX. Other than trying it over Live, which I haven't done yet, I think I'm done with it.

For me, SFII > SFIII > SFIV.

[corrosivefrost]

The people who complain about SF4s art like things like Onechambararararg, and Ar Tonelico, so something is amiss.

Whoever compared 4 to EX....:rofl:

Hm. I don't like any of those things. And I abhor the Street Fighter 4 art. If I wanted Ready 2 Rumble in my fucking fighting game, I'd have bought facebreaker.

$15 for SSFIITHDR is an infinitely better purchase than $60 for SFIV.

[zewone]

SFIV > SFII > SFIII

I liked EX.

[SL4IN]

Fire Emblem on DS is ugly as fuck.

Fuck your retro-famicom style.

This game is barebones as hell for Fire Emblem. Buying weapons during battles? FAIL, No Support Convos? FAIL, no Bonus EXP, FAIL.

Least the core is still solid. I know its a "remake" but it feels like they did it on the cheap and as fast as they could.

UGH. Once again Nintendo disappoints. The story also sucks a big one.

It's a remake of an NES game sheesh.

Don't poo poo on the game I'm looking forward to. I'm not doing it to yours.

[whoknows]

Went to Target hoping to score Far Cry 2 for $15...they didn't have it :cry:

I've been trying to not pay $40 for it.

[whoknows]

The people who complain about SF4s art like things like Onechambararararg, and Ar Tonelico, so something is amiss.
The art is fine, but the facial animations are 110% retarded though.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

It's a remake of an NES game sheesh.

Don't poo poo on the game I'm looking forward to. I'm not doing it to yours.

I imported the Euro version because NOA is useless and I refuse to give them a cent.
Im about half done with it, and it is the weakest of the FE games to come to the states.

[SL4IN]

I imported the Euro version because NOA is useless and I refuse to give them a cent.
Im about half done with it, and it is the weakest of the FE games to come to the states.

No, I believe that is reserved for FE:SS

[FloodsAreUponUS]

No, I believe that is reserved for FE:SS

No, SS is much better then this.

[SL4IN]

No, SS is much better then this.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it turns out then. How many hours are you in? I'm hearing it's about 10 hours or so?

Atleast Platinum is a month away, and that is going to be far from disappointing.

[zewone]

What's the difference between Platinum vs. Diamond/Pearl?

[SL4IN]

Complete list of changes in Pokemon Platinum from Diamond and Pearl!Aesthetic changes

Lucas, Dawn, and Pearl have different outfits designed for colder weather, as the entire Sinnoh region has dropped in temperature.
The template for the level, HP, and name of Pokémon in battle is a dark gray instead of white and its shape has changed.
The Pokétch has been redesigned. Players can now move up and down between apps instead of having to go through all of them to return to a previous one.
Some of the moves have been redesigned and have a different animation, such as Razor Leaf.
When Pokémon are sent out from their Poké Balls, their back sprites now animate much like their front sprites have since Emerald Version. Front sprites for Generation IV Pokémon and other Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex have also changed.
When battling certain Trainers such as Gym Leaders and Pearl, their sprites are now animated to move in the same manner as Pokémon.
Some trainers now use seals when sending out some of their Pokémon.
The Eterna, Hearthome, and Veilstone Gyms have all had complete redesigns in the interior.
Gym Leader closeups, just before a Gym battle, have been changed from enlarged sprites to higher-quality drawings and the terms VS. The Elite Four now also has this but it includes the player on the left side of the VS. and the Elite Four member on the right of the VS.
The rooms where the player battle the Elite Four have been redesigned. Aaron now has logs and foliage in his room. Bertha now has rocks in her room. Flint now contains lava pits in his room. Lucian's room has only had minor changes to now include four large lights or glowing orbs on the floor. Cynthia's room has changed its color scheme and the lift leading up to the Hall of Fame is now partially contained. The Pokémon Center at the Elite Four has also been redesigned.
When entering new areas, the location 'labels' on the top-left corner have been redesigned, much like they were between Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire and Pokémon Emerald.
All gyms now only have Pokémon of their type specialty.

Storyline changes

The player meets Professor Rowan and the opposite gender character earlier, and obtains his or her starter Pokémon on Route 201.
The first battle is against the player's rival, who, as always, has chosen the starter Pokémon that weakens that of the player.
The player and the rival now encounter Cyrus at Lake Verity at the start of the game. The player can also meet Cyrus at different venues such as the Eterna City statue.
Both Dialga and Palkia appear on Spear Pillar. Giratina, the mascot of Platinum, then phases into the world in front of Cyrus.
A new area known as the Distortion World (Japanese: やぶれたせかい Torn World) is playable. It has floor-like sections floating at ninety-degree angles from each other, creating an effect similar to the art of M. C. Escher. It doesn't follow the Laws of Physics, making things like surfing down a waterfall going up possible. The camera angle switches between perspective and isometric views to suit the angle of the player. It also has moving platforms with jumpable gaps between them. Giratina, when here, will be in its Origin Forme and is also the only wild Pokémon located here.
At least two new characters were added. One is Pluto, a professor of Team Galactic, and the other is a police officer spying on Team Galactic, using the codename "Handsome" (Japanese: ハンサム).
A tag battle between the player and his or her rival against Flint and Volkner takes place at the entrance to the Battle Frontier when the player first arrives there.
Team Galactic's plans for world domination and the layouts of their HQs, such as the one in Eterna, have been changed. In addition, they openly recognize their goal and are more openly villainous.
Some of the Gym Leaders have been reordered: Fantina is now the third Gym Leader, Maylene is the fourth and Crasher Wake is the fifth.
Dawn/Lucas no longer gives the player the Dowsing Machine or the Vs Seeker near the Route 206 junction; instead he/she meets the player at the entrance to Mt. Coronet.
Team Galactic appear in Stark Mountain under the command of Pluto, who seeks to use the destructive power of the volcano to extort money from the people of Sinnoh. The player, with help from Buck, must defeat them. During this event, Mars and Jupiter quit Team Galactic because Pluto does not share the same ideals as ex-boss Cyrus. Ultimately, Pluto and his two accompanying grunts are apprehended by Handsome and two policemen.
After the aforementioned event, the player is able to challenge all the Gym Leaders of Sinnoh to rematches in the Match Place. The player's tag battle partners from throughout the game (Cheryl, Buck, Marley, Mira, and Riley) are also able to be challenged in this café. Each of the 13 characters has a team of five Pokémon, whose levels are between 61 and 66.
The Elite Four increase their Pokémon's levels after the player has completed the Stark Mountain event. Their levels are now between 65 and 78.
When one finishes the Stark Mountain quest, instead of the rival appearing at the Fight Area on weekends, he now appears at the Survival Area in front of the Match Place. During the first battle, the levels of the Pokémon in his party range from 59-65, second battle 69-75, and third and beyond 79-85. On his last battle, he is the trainer with the highest-leveled Pokémon in all main series games.
When first visiting the Resort Area, the player receives a villa. Inside on a table is a catalog that lists items that can be purchased to furnish the house in the same manner as decorating a secret base. The player will be visited by NPCs such as the Sinnoh Gym Leaders, the player's mom, Professor Rowan, and the rival.

Gameplay changes

Giratina's cry will be heard when "Start" or "A" are pressed at the title screen, unlike in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl which just play the background music. It shares this trait with some previous generation games.
The Wi-Fi area has been enhanced with the Wi-Fi Square, which supports up to 20 people at a time. The new area seems to focus exclusively on mini-games, which include Rapid Wobbuffet, where players hit a Wobbuffet, and Merry Mime Jr., where players can balance Mime Jr. on a ball.
The Poffin making has been modified with a new feature involving a Swalot-shaped machine, into which Berries can be thrown. This can be done over Wi-Fi in the new Wi-Fi Square.
There is a new key item called the Battle Recorder (given by Handsome when the player first meets him in Jubilife City), which allows players to record battles in Battle Frontier and Wi-Fi, and share the records with other players over the GTS. Battle records can be rated by other players upon viewing, and the most popular battle records are displayed for all to see. Players can also take pictures of their PC boxes and share them with other players in a similar fashion.
The GTS has incorporated an E-mail system that allows players to be notified of completed trades. Notification messages are sent to the player's actual E-mail address.
The Sinnoh starters and their evolutions are now allowed in an expanded Amity Square, making a total of 20 Pokémon allowed in the Square.
Over local wireless, there is a new feature where the player and their friends can put their Pokémon eggs in and randomly swap.
HM05 (Defog) is now located inside the Solaceon Ruins instead of the Pastoria Great Marsh.
The player now receives HM04 (Strength) from Riley on Iron Island instead of in the Lost Tower.
The player can now challenge other trainers in certain Pokémon Centers. The trainer(s) are located in front of the desk. These trainers change location every day.
In addition to the move tutors in Diamond and Pearl, three new move tutors are added, in Snowpoint City, on Route 212 and in the Survival Area.
The Accuracy of Hypnosis was changed back to 60.
The surfing speed has become faster.

Obtainable Pokémon

59 more Pokémon have been added to the Sinnoh Pokédex to give it a grand total of 210 entries, with all non-legendary Pokémon introduced in Generation IV now included, along with their pre-evolved forms and several other Pokémon. The added Pokémon, such as Rotom and Giratina, are now available prior to the Elite Four challenge.
Giratina can appear both as Altered Forme and Origin Forme in Platinum. It will appear in Origin Forme while in the Distortion World, and in Altered Forme while out of it. A Platinum Orb is required to transform it to its Origin Forme outside of the Distortion World.
The ability of Origin Forme is Levitate and its base stats mirror those of Altered Forme in that the offensive stats have been switched with their respective defensive stats.
Shaymin's new Forme is called Sky Forme and takes on a canine appearance. Its ability is Serene Grace and the form is focused on Speed and Special Attack. It will be able to learn new moves like Quick Attack, Air Slash and Leaf Storm.
Shaymin is able to change between its two forms via the use of the Glacidea Flower (Japanese: グラシデアのはな). This item doesn't work at night or if Shaymin is frozen.
Rotom has new forms as well. Each of the five forms is a Rotom that has possessed an electrical appliance. Despite having visual characteristics of other types, the five forms share the original Rotom's Electric and Ghost types, whereas their base stats are far higher. They also share the original Rotom's ability: Levitate. These Pokémon are not normally available and are therefore banned from official tournaments. The item to unlock these Pokémon in the game, the Secret Key, is an event-only item.
Regirock, Regice and Registeel are catchable at level 30 with the help of an event Regigigas that has been distributed in Japan.
Regigigas is now found at level 1, making it the lowest-level non-glitch wild Pokémon in a game (not to mention the lowest-level non-glitch legendary in a game).
The legendary birds can be found as roaming Pokémon after the National Pokédex is obtained. They roam Sinnoh much like Mesprit and Cresselia do. The player has to talk to Professor Oak in Eterna City to trigger their appearance. They are all at level 60.
Dialga and Palkia appear on Spear Pillar one at a time after the player has spoken with Cynthia's grandmother in Celestic Town, and obtained the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs in Mt. Coronet.
Cynthia now gives the player a Pokémon egg containing Togepi after the player has defeated the Galactic Eterna Building.
Bebe now gives the player an Eevee before the player receives the National Dex; Eevee can now be obtained from the first time the player arrives in Hearthome City. It is at level 20.
A man in Veilstone City gives the player a level 25 Porygon as a gift.
Manaphy, while still uncatchable in-game, is now required to obtain the National Dex. It can be added to the Sinnoh Dex from finding its picture in a book in the Trophy Garden.

Map changes

Much like the third version of the last generation, a new Battle Frontier takes the place of the Battle Park. It has the Battle Tower, Battle Factory, Battle Castle, Battle Roulette and Battle Stage as venues.
Twinleaf Town and nearby routes now have snow patches.
Jubilife City has been refurbished with new pathways and some buildings have animated roof lights.
The Global Trade Station in Jubilife City has been redesigned and now includes a bigger global terminal.
An arch now represents the entrance to Floaroma Town.
The trees in Eterna Forest cast shadows that cover the forest floor.
Eterna City has been refurbished with new foliage and pathways. Also the Galactic Eterna Building has had a complete redesign, inside and out.
Cycling Road has been redesigned and now has tunnel-like shelters in the middle of the Cycle Route.
Hearthome City has been refurbished with new pathways.
Amity Square has been completely remodeled. It now includes a small lake, more paths and more upper levels. The old buildings that previously inhabited Amity Square now contain Warp Panels which transport the player to the other old buildings within Amity Square.
Lost Tower has had its color scheme changed and now has fog on three of its five floors, which can be cleared by HM05 (Defog).
Solaceon Town's houses have been remodeled and the Pokémon Daycare now has a trough filled with water and tent-like shelters.
Veilstone City has been refurbished with new pathways. The Galactic Veilstone Building has been redesigned, inside and out. The Veilstone Department Store now has a basement.
The Hotel Grand Lake has been refurbished with new pathways.
Pastoria City's houses have been remodeled and now also includes a board with a Croagunk on it which is located in front of the Great Marsh.
The Great Marsh has had its color scheme changed and has also had foliage changed and added.
Celestic Town's houses have been remodeled.
Canalave City has been refurbished with new pathways and its houses and library have also been remodeled.
The player now needs to use HM08 (Rock Climb) to access Lake Acuity.
The area of water to the south of Snowpoint City where the player can get a boat to the Battle Zone now contains a small amount of icebergs. These can also be seen in the ocean when the boat is crossing to the Battle Zone. The boat has also been redesigned, most likely due to the icebergs in the sea.
Sunyshore City has been refurbished with new pathways and its houses have been remodeled.
Sinnoh's climate has changed drastically. Snow is now found as far south as Twinleaf Town, whereas the Battle Zone is now warmer. Palm trees can be found in the Battle Zone.
Stark Mountain now has more features evocative of a volcano, such as crags and pits of lava.
Veilstone Department Store now has a basement, in which contest items can be sold and bought. Berries and Lava Cookies can be bought as well.
The entrance and exit of Victory Road have become wider, having a Poké Ball at the center of the arch.
Oreburgh Mine now has twin coal transporters starting from the entrance and ending at the entrance to the last section of the mine.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it turns out then. How many hours are you in? I'm hearing it's about 10 hours or so?

Atleast Platinum is a month away, and that is going to be far from disappointing.

Saying its a bad FE game is saying its better then 95% of other SRPGS.
Its not bad, its just disapointing. I was looking forward to a whole new FE game as their are fan translations of the older games.

I think its not the game I am disappointed in, but rather nintendo for throttling IS and making them remake the first game instead of a brand new game.

[The Crotch]

Floods, is it true that you can only get certain characters in FE DS if you have a small group?

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I think so, but its really easy to kill of character you can obtain.
They always appear as enemies, and you have to use a certain character to get them to your side. Maybe later in the game they will give me a pre-battle load out screen instead of doing all that stuff while in the battle.

I also heard they were changing some things for the NA release, so I will have to get both and compare.

[Rei no Otaku]

The people who complain about SF4s art like things like Onechambararararg, and Ar Tonelico, so something is amiss.

Whoever compared 4 to EX....:rofl:
That's because the art in those two games fit. The art in SF4 just looks awkward.

the facial animations are 110% retarded though.
Agreed.

[Mr. Beef]

That was a lot of fucking red text.

[distgfx]

SFIV = Bad Art and is like EX? Jesus christ, what's happened to you people? You used to be cool.

[Dr Mario Kart]

How about good art direction, bad character design?

[corrosivefrost]

How about good art direction, bad character design?

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

Ready 2 Rumble and Facebreaker did NOT have good art direction. ;)

Also, I'm still trying to figure out why Ryu talks like he's in a poorly dubbed martial arts movie...

[FloodsAreUponUS]

SF4 is good art direction.
Why do you say it does not fit?
Its probably because the characters make funny faces when they get hit?
P'saw id take SF4 over any game that you think has "proper" art direction.

[corrosivefrost]

SF4 is good art direction.
Why do you say it does not fit?
Its probably because the characters make funny faces when they get hit?
P'saw id take SF4 over any game that you think has "proper" art direction.

Just about any other fighting game coming out in the near future or recent past is better, art direction-wise. Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6, SFIIHDR, etc.

Also, the anime intro/outro for each character doesn't fit at all with the rest of the "art direction".

[ninja dog]

Do you people even bother to verify shit before you post it or do you just copy/paste from gamefaqs?


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I'm going where there's no bitch assness.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Seriously no more Bitch-Assness.
I cant take it anymore.
Go back to playing MKvDC.

[Trakan]

Just about any other fighting game coming out in the near future or recent past is better, art direction-wise. Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6, SFIIHDR, etc.

Also, the anime intro/outro for each character doesn't fit at all with the rest of the "art direction".

What?

I'll give you the fact that the anime cut scenes aren't exactly the greatest and that they don't match the rest of the style. I'll even give you the goofy ass faces. Still though, SFIV's art direction blows everything else away.

[hankmecrankme]

Agreed.

[distgfx]

What?

I'll give you the fact that the anime cut scenes aren't exactly the greatest and that they don't match the rest of the style. I'll even give you the goofy ass faces. Still though, SFIV's art direction blows everything else away.

Exactly what I was about to post. :applause:

[zewone]

I want Skullomania in IV.

[DarthPuma]

I'm really tempted to change the name of the GGT to General Bitching Thread.

[Mr. Beef]

Doesn't have the same ring to it.

I want Project Justice vs. Street Fighter.

[Ahadi]

I'm very tempted to grab a SFIV pad. I just don't know if I can really justify the price with how much I'll use it...

[The Crotch]

I also heard they were changing some things for the NA release, so I will have to get both and compare.They'd better. I don't want to have to send my pegasus knight over to the armoury just to stock up on steel weapons for the next four fights.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

They'd better. I don't want to have to send my pegasus knight over to the armoury just to stock up on steel weapons for the next four fights.

Just got to the 8th fight and yeah I can now stock up before a mission.
THANK GOD.

[The Crotch]

Ah, good. How's the caravan work in this game? Is it like the console versions?

[corrosivefrost]

Do you people even bother to verify shit before you post it or do you just copy/paste from gamefaqs?


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I'm going where there's no bitch assness.

Read before you post, dog.
I said it FEELS like EX, not LOOKS like EX.

[corrosivefrost]

What?

I'll give you the fact that the anime cut scenes aren't exactly the greatest and that they don't match the rest of the style. I'll even give you the goofy ass faces. Still though, SFIV's art direction blows everything else away.

It's not an art style or direction that will please everyone. It looks ok in motion, but as far as I'm concerned, the general art style of the game sucks ass and I'll take just about anything in it's place.

[ninja dog]

Read before you post, dog.
I said it FEELS like EX, not LOOKS like EX.

That was more at Rei who said: "That's because the art in those two games fit. The art in SF4 just looks awkward." no hard feelings either way, just message board battle hyper aggressive insult edition 2000 taisen-desu!

[hankmecrankme]

GGT is serious business.

By the way, <name of your favorite game> sucks ass/is better on <platform>/iz fo' babiez.

[corrosivefrost]

That was more at Rei who said: "That's because the art in those two games fit. The art in SF4 just looks awkward." no hard feelings either way, just message board battle hyper aggressive insult edition 2000 taisen-desu!

Fair enough -- I think the reason I made the original comparison is that SF:EX and SF4 are the only games in the series to use 3D models instead of hand drawn sprites. This is probably why it doesn't feel right to me and why I'd compare it to EX as to how the gameplay feels.

I mean, there was SF:The Movie or something, but that was more motion capture, like Mortal Kombat... I mean, if I really wanted to dog on SF4, I'd have compared it to that. Raul Julia as Bison? No contest. ;)

[Maklershed]

GGT is serious business.

By the way, <name of your favorite game> sucks ass/is better on <platform>/iz fo' babiez.


That doesn't work as well because it's not as inflammatory. You have to mention a popular game.

Examples:

GTA4 is the worst game ever.
Halo 3 is terrible.
Street Fighter IV killed my pet.

[ninja dog]

Maybe if you all adopted my opinions on everything, we wouldn't have these problems.

[hankmecrankme]

I just laid down the template. :)

Also, Ocarina of Time is the worst game ever.

[corrosivefrost]

I just laid down the template. :)

Also, Ocarina of Time is the worst game ever.

Wrong. Your mom is the worst game ever. Incredibly easy, stale gameplay, and no replay value whatsoever.

[hankmecrankme]

Don't forget she's a heavy smoker.

[Maklershed]

Your beard is GotY 09!

[hankmecrankme]

It's been in development for 3 years. Can't rush perfection.

Too Human 2 and 3 are going to be so sweet.

[distgfx]

I just laid down the template. :)

Also, Ocarina of Time is the worst game ever.

You're supposed to say stuff people don't agree with.

Valkryia Chronicles is the best game ever!

[Ahadi]

Azurik Rise of Perathia > all other games

You guys think Haze is worth $20?

[hankmecrankme]

I heard that Street Fighter IV is essentially Street Fighter EX 4.

[Chacrana]

You guys think Haze is worth $20?


A bad game is not worth time or money.