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[zewone]

Project Natal is going to be awesome for everything besides gaming.

[shinryuu]

that trailer was full of fail

[sotc1988]

Nice. I love Spielberg.

[Krymner]

Here comes Boom Blox 360...

[hankmecrankme]

Project Failure.

[nyprimus4]

Where is NBA Live 2010 with Peter Moore playing virtual Kobe versus the Magic with Project Natal?

[zewone]

If I can tell my 360, "Goodnight." and it turns off, I'm going to be living in the future, now.

[sotc1988]

If I can tell my 360, "Goodnight." and it turns off.

I'm going to be living in the future, now.
Parents can now have their xbox's turn off when their kids swear on live.


I LOVE IT

[KaneRobot]

Ha! It's not MGS4, it looks like some new game starring Raiden.
Yeah, I'm sure 360 owners are crushed.

[sotc1988]

HA SUCK IT XBROS
that was a pretty fucking cool conference

[Krymner]

So far MS hasn't impressed. All the good stuff has already been leaked. And all the un-leaked stuff doesn't seem so exciting.

[nyprimus4]

This guy is wearing women sunglasses.

[zewone]

What are you talking about? This conference is going to be hard to top.

Oh wait, I'm in the GGT.

Carry on.

[sotc1988]

Hot chick confirmed
i'm buying thirty

[nyprimus4]

Brick Breaker 4D.

[sotc1988]

WAGGLE?!
Who the FUCK does this guy think he is?

[refusedchaos]

this conference is so-so..the MGRS announcement felt rushed.

only thing im interested in is MGRS, AW, and H3ODST(kinda).

though i'd say the 360 has a chance of taking out the Wiii now

[Mr. Beef]

I only tuned in on time to see the last half of Halo 3 ODST (:-|), but this conference hasn't been bad at all.

[sotc1988]

MOLEEENOOOOOOOOOO
I'm excited.

[zewone]

This shit is fucking impressive.

[Inf^Shini]

Where does E3 get re-aired?

Also, was there any word on Dead Space 2? :P

[Krymner]

Kinda creepy, but yeah, impressive. It will be interesting to see the games that come out of it.

[Chibi_Kaji]

though i'd say the 360 has a chance of taking out the Wiii now
No

I'm actually alot more impressed with the motion camera then I thought I would be.

[nyprimus4]

WTF 10 more minutes. Announce gaming Zune or slim 360 damnit.

[evanft]

Hey! Another gimmicky piece of shit accessory that know worthwhile games will ever use in a major way because no one will fucking buy it!

[dallow]

Gamewise, other than Kojima, nothing that exciting.

I'll have to watch the motion sensor/recognition stuff when I get home since I can't judge that yet.

[Dr Mario Kart]

though i'd say the 360 has a chance of taking out the Wiii now
Zero chance. It wont get significant support since its not a standard pack-in. It'll certainly have Sony and Nintendo on their toes for next cycle though.

The future is bleak if you hate waggle.

[sotc1988]

Overall I really liked it. It started pretty lame but then got really good and ended better than I thought. Splinter Cell fucking BLEW ME AWAY. The cinematic style was incredible and hats off the Ubi for going back to the drawing board. Alan Wake is something I am still interested in and what more can be said about MW 2? Milo makes the Netal look very cool and Spielberg has me really excited for what he'll bring.

[dallow]

No ZuneHD... jeeze.

Oh well, straightfoward conference.

[refusedchaos]

No

I'm actually alot more impressed with the motion camera then I thought I would be.

yea yea I know, i said this right when they showed it...now, no...Since they dont have any Mario or Zelda type games, just shovelware

now on MGSR...I didnt hear them say that it was exclusive, just in dev

[evanft]

Gamewise, other than Kojima, nothing that exciting.

This. We pretty much already knew about every single game they showed.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Focusing on exclusives is an interesting strategy. You're showing dramatically less games, but going more in-depth with each of them. No montages.

[zewone]

MGS: Rising
MW2
Alan Wake
Splinter Cell: Conviction
L4D 2
Crackdown 2
Forza 3
Rock Band: The Beatles
Final Fantasy XIII
Project Natal :drool:

Very hard, if not impossible to top.

Only thing would be Project TRICO

[Chibi_Kaji]

yea yea I know, i said this right when they showed it...now, no...Since they dont have any Mario or Zelda type games, just shovelware
No, You should have never thought like that in the first place :razz:

[dallow]

Thought there would be more.
I guess that happens when you take out the multiplat games.

I look forward to the GO details.

[refusedchaos]

No, You should have never thought like that in the first place :razz:

haha yea i know

[Mr. Beef]

MGS: Rising
MW2
Alan Wake
Splinter Cell: Conviction
L4D 2
Crackdown 2
Forza 3
Rock Band: The Beatles
Final Fantasy XIII
Project Natal :drool:

Very hard, if not impossible to top.

Only thing would be Project TRICO
Very true. This makes me extremely curious as to what Nintendo/Sony have planned, because I want to see if they can surpass what MS brought to the table.

[dallow]

Well, Nintendo won't.
I can guarantee that.

I wonder if they'll patch that Odin summon into the FFXIII demo. 8-)

[Dr Mario Kart]

14 games shown
-9 shooters (FPS, TPS, Side Scrolling)
-2 racers
-1 JRPG
-1 Sports/Sim
-1 Rhythm/Music

[zewone]

What's your point, $$$$$$?

Nintendo:

3 games shown
- 2 gay (side scrolling gay)
- 1 lame

[Dr Mario Kart]

-4 multiplatform
-2 XBLA exclusive
-3 console exclusive + PC
-5 exclusive (as far as we know)

[Moxio]

#-o@DMK insisting on continuing his gimmick

[tiredfornow]

I told you I had you covered with that sim for girls, DMK. Its okay.

[dallow]

I hope this leads to Seaman 3, or a port of Seaman 2 coming over.

I was just thinking of that game yesterday. :(
Miss my little guy.

[Dr Mario Kart]

The Contravania game was amazing though. It even looked like it might have some Z-plane Klonoa style stuff. Too bad I'll never play it.

[Nelo Ice]

summer of arcade is back
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363619
Summer just got even hotter! The 2nd Annual Summer of Arcade burns up Xbox LIVE® Arcade

Xbox LIVE Arcade is turning up the heat! ‘Splode, race, and cowabunga your way through five weeks of this year’s hottest blockbusters in the second annual Summer of Arcade program.

Last year’s Summer of Arcade saw unprecedented success, with games on-par with retail blockbusters, including award-winning “Braid.” Now we’re burning it up again with five more scorching smash hits beginning Wednesday, July 22, 2009.

Xbox LIVE Arcade has raised the bar, delivering the biggest and best selection of downloadable games on any console. So grab a popsicle and turn up the air-conditioning because these games will keep you sizzling all summer long.

“MARVEL vs. CAPCOM 2” (Backbone Entertainment/Capcom): One of the most popular fighting games of all time, “MARVEL vs. CAPCOM 2,” arrives on Xbox LIVE Arcade. Choose from 56 legendary characters from Marvel Comics and Capcom history, including Ryu and Wolverine. With online multiplayer over Xbox LIVE and enhanced HD graphics, you decide who is the dream team in the ultimate tag-team fighting experience.

“Shadow Complex” (Chair Entertainment and Epic Games/Microsoft): The next evolution in downloadable games, “Shadow Complex” marries the quality and depth of a full retail title, the stunning visuals of Epic Games’ industry-leading Unreal Engine 3, and a classic side-scroller. “Set in the world of Orson Scott Card’s best-selling novel, “Empire,” Shadow Complex introduces a compelling universe in which you collect items and power-ups, and evolve your character into a force of destruction.”

Splosion Man™ (Twisted Pixel Games/Microsoft): Fools they were, to tread where knowledge should stay forbidden. For what emerged was not a man - it was a Splosion Man. "And all who saw him were sploded, for he was the fire and they were but meat." Able to splode himself at will, the Splosion Man launches his way through levels, an uncontainable force. From Twisted Pixel Games, developer of the award winning The Maw™, Splosion Man will keep you on your toes as you play through more than 50 single-player levels and 50 multiplayer levels.

“Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles™: Turtles in Time Re-shelled” (Ubisoft Singapore®/Ubisoft®): Cowabunga! Everyone's favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game is back with a brand new look in “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time Re-Shelled.” The arcade classic has been revamped with all new 3D graphics, but the same classic beat 'em up gameplay.

“Trials HD” (RedLynx/Microsoft): Put on your helmet, and rev your way through “Trials HD,” a fully-featured, physics-based motorcycle racing game in stunning HD graphics. Tear up more than 50 tracks and test your metal in two unique game modes: Race and Skill. Create, share and download an unlimited number of free tracks with the level editor, and customize your rider to fit your personality.

*Xbox LIVE Gold membership required for online multiplayer

[dallow]

No Rare, no Mistwalker, no Mass Effect 2.
I know we'll see ME2 later, I hope for more Arcade and the others during the show.

[tiredfornow]

I thought MvC2 was coming out in June? :-|

[Nelo Ice]

more news
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363621

Confirmed by Garnett on his Twitter :

Games on Demand service coming to Live in August with 30 titles
Win avatar items as rewards in games coming soon

[FriskyTanuki]

Oh yeah, I'm surprised at the lack of Mass Effect 2 at all in the show and mostly any XBLA announcements besides Epic's game.

Where'd the South Park game go?

[gunm]

Whelp, looks like MS has saved me from needing to buy a Wii game ever again. :p

[hankmecrankme]

MGS: Rising
MW2
Alan Wake
Splinter Cell: Conviction
L4D 2
Crackdown 2
Forza 3
Rock Band: The Beatles
Final Fantasy XIII
Project Natal :drool:

Very hard, if not impossible to top.

Only thing would be Project TRICO

MGS: Rising - :drool:
MW2 - PS3/PC - Do not want
Alan Wake - PC - :-k
Splinter Cell: Conviction - PC - :drool:
L4D 2 - PC - Do not want
Crackdown 2 - :drool:
Forza 3 - Do not want
Rock Band: The Beatles - Do not want
Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - :drool:
Project Natal - :-k

So that's 2 games I'd get for 360 out of that list, and that's because there isn't a PC or PS3 version, MGS Rising and Crackdown 2. :)

Trico will hopefully be sweet. :drool:

[dallow]

I thought MvC2 was coming out in June? :-|Oh yeah, just saw the date. :(

[zewone]

Mass Effect 2 should be at the EA conference, not Microsoft's.

[tiredfornow]

IGN moved their release date of MvC2 from June 29th to Q3 2009. :^/

[zewone]

:-|

[pete5883]

MGS: Rising
MW2
Alan Wake
Splinter Cell: Conviction
L4D 2
Crackdown 2
Forza 3
Rock Band: The Beatles
Final Fantasy XIII
Project Natal :drool:

Very hard, if not impossible to top.

Only thing would be Project TRICO
Yeah, Sony isn't going to top that. MGS:R didn't sound exclusive. Splinter Cell looked awesome, I guess it's time to stop ignoring that series. Alan Wake demo put me to sleep.

Milo's creepy, but I'm optomistic for Natal.

[Mr. Beef]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5915306&postcount=15

:/

[Nelo Ice]

http://i39.tinypic.com/sce3c5.jpg

[dallow]

Mass Effect 2 should be at the EA conference, not Microsoft's.RB: Beatles too?

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Most impressive thing I've seen yet if it's what I think it is.

http://i39.tinypic.com/sce3c5.jpg

[Azumangaman]

MS really dominated.
I thought that Natal stuff was shit, until Steven came out.
Then it was fantastic.
:)

[Nelo Ice]

ha beaten!
and it is what u think it is

Confirmed by Garnett on his Twitter :

Games on Demand service coming to Live in August with 30 titles
Win avatar items as rewards in games coming soon
Also a marketplace to buy stuff for your avatar on the way

[zewone]

RB: Beatles has 360 exclusiveness. 8-)

[Dr Mario Kart]

I almost dont mind digital distribution conceptually if the media being killed is blu-ray.

[Azumangaman]

Are you gonna need a massive harddrive for games on demand?
That could be soooo cool...

[dallow]

What's the exclusive?
Timed window? I must have missed it.

[zewone]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/msft-e3-2009-keynote0476-rm-eng.jpg

[benjamouth]

The games need to be cheaper that that, $19.99 is retail.

EDIT -Why is it $19.99 and not 1600 points ?

[dallow]

I almost dont mind digital distribution conceptually if the media being killed is blu-ray.What's the difference?

It's just storage.

[tiredfornow]

Hopefully the games are just the size of regular installs, or maybe a bit more compressed. :)

[dallow]

Wow, why didn't they show that at the conference.
That's really interesting.

[zewone]

The games need to be cheaper that that, $19.99 is retail.

EDIT -Why is it $19.99 and not 1600 points ?
You can buy the games with a CC, no need for MS points.
Hopefully the games are just the size of regular installs, or maybe a bit more compressed. :)

That'd be nice.

[gunm]

I guess the Digital Distribution was one of the reasons why they went storage-less for the HDTV stuff.

[pete5883]

The Beatles RB was at MS's I guess because they had the exclusive song announcement. I hope MS didn't waste too much money to get 2 Beatles to come on stage and tell the crowd absolutely nothing.

Edit: wow I'm behind.

[Mr. Anderson]

MS had a very good conference, top it Sony! :D

[hankmecrankme]

I almost dont mind digital distribution conceptually if the media being killed is blu-ray.

I don't want extra compression in my 1080p picture, and I want my 7.1 PCM. When I cam stream 30 Mb/s, then I'll give a damn.

[dallow]

Yeah, what was the Beatles exclusive, a song?
Which one? If so, please be early era. :pray:

[diddy310]

I'm curious to see how much Natal actually costs and whether or not it's going to be just a big pile of minigames. (Molyneux's evil British child who will take over the world aside).

Wasn't really feeling Alan Wake too much, but the rest of the games looked nice.

Hope we get to see more Tony Hawk Ride being played, kinda sucked that they showed people playing it without actually showing the board.

[nyprimus4]

@ the DD pictures - We're gonna need a bigger hard drive.

[diddy310]

Yeah, what was the Beatles exclusive, a song?
Which one? If so, please be early era. :pray:


I believe all it was All You Need Is Love. It sucks that the exclusive is also the one whose profits are being donated to Doctors Without Borders. Couldn't they make more money for the charity by having that on both consoles. I think maybe the PS3 version will have their own song as an exclusive for the charity as well.

[Nelo Ice]

u can still use points whew!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/01/xbox-360-getting-full-retail-games-delivered-on-demand/
Don't get your hopes up, MS tells us that the point system isn't going anywhere, it's just being supplemented with credit card purchases. Also, game rentals aren't happening yet, but they said it "sounds great for the future."

[KingBroly]

I don't get the 1 song DLC exclusive. It's 1 song...where all the money goes to charity, and it's exclusive. You'd think that for charity, the song would be available on every platform for charity, right? It seems kinda sleazy.

[pete5883]

Anyone notice Crackdown 2 being developed by Ruffian Games (http://www.ruffiangames.com/)?

We've worked on many big titles in the past that we're sure you've heard of including Microsoft's Crackdown, Fable 2 and Project Gotham Racing. We hope you've enjoyed them as much as we did.
So basically, still from the developers of the original.

[dallow]

I believe all it was All You Need Is Love. It sucks that the exclusive is also the one whose profits are being donated to Doctors Without Borders. Couldn't they make more money for the charity by having that on both consoles. I think maybe the PS3 version will have their own song as an exclusive for the charity as well.

I don't get the 1 song DLC exclusive. It's 1 song...where all the money goes to charity, and it's exclusive. You'd think that for charity, the song would be available on every platform for charity, right? It seems kinda sleazy.
Damn, it's a good song. Though pretty boring to play I would think if it's the full version. You do the same thing over and over.
Singing would be fun though.

And yeah, the uh charity thing seems pretty silly when it's for one platform.

[nyprimus4]

I'm going to need a new TV for Alan Wake. My Westinghouse LCD can't handle all that black.

[Chibi_Kaji]

And yeah, the uh charity thing seems pretty silly when it's for one platform.
Maybe it was the only way M$ could talk them into some exclusive DLC?

[dallow]

Perhaps. Good point.

[FriskyTanuki]

MGS:R didn't sound exclusive.
http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1995625383

geoffkeighley (http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley) I asked Schappert if the new MGS was Xbox exclusive and he wouldn't confirm. Sure sounds to me like a simultaneous ps3 / 360 release.

[KingBroly]

But that's really sleazy.

[diddy310]

If PS3 has their own exclusive song for the same charity, it's fine.

[dallow]

As long as it's a good one.

C'mon Rocky Racoon.

[tiredfornow]

Dang, you dudes find anything to bitch about. :rofl:

[Nelo Ice]

didnt see this before
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988486p1.html
User ratings are being added to ALL Marketplace content.

[dallow]

The zoom lens for the DSi is ridiculous!

[Nelo Ice]

metal gear solid rising is 360 exclusive apparently
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988687p1.html
Update

The game is indeed exclusive to the Xbox 360. Sorry, Sony fans.

[tiredfornow]

But, KingBroly said it wasn't!

[pete5883]

http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1995625383
Yeah, saw that too. I don't remember where I found this, but I liked Geoff Keighley's quote: "When you get married you think you're in an exclusive relationship, but sometimes I guess it turns out to be a timed exclusive."

Oh super, EA has little girls on stage. Maybe Milo's friends.

[KingBroly]

IGN jumps the gun a lot. Microsoft's own PR for it doesn't even say exclusive.

[FriskyTanuki]

didnt see this before
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988486p1.html
(12:46:11 PM): Now moving on to Avatars. In-game awardables -- extra items for Avatars that can be won in games. That support is now coming.
.

[Nelo Ice]

yeah saw that posted it in another topic though
hoping we can unlock stuff in games rather than buying them off the avatar marketplace like u could either buy odst armor or unlock it in game

[pete5883]

MS would not have passed up the opportunity to rub a MGS exclusive in everyone's face, if that was the case.

G4 is pumping "This is the new shit." I guess their censors weren't ready.

[dallow]

metal gear solid rising is 360 exclusive apparently
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988687p1.html
It's not exclusive, I was hoping 360 and PS3 would get their own seperate spinoff games, but looks like it's coming to both systems.

Only IGN is saying it's exclusive because the PR doesn't mention PS3.
But the MS PR puts it in the Multi section, and other sites are saying it's multi as well.

I hope PSP is still getting the Big Boss game.

[zewone]

Mass Effect 2 @ EA's conference.

What's up, dallow?

[dallow]

What's up what?

[pete5883]

Hopefully the NEXT site (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/index.html) will update with an announcement in 30 min. It's showing an 8 now. Though I don't know what an 8 would be, maybe it's a picture of a DS?

[zewone]

Mass Effect 2 should be at the EA conference, not Microsoft's.

RB: Beatles too?



What's up what?

You trying to be a smartass. 8-)

[dallow]

You already answered my question when you told me there was a song DLC exclusive to announce for RB: Beatles. I had missed that.

[zewone]

I'm sure ME2 will have some sort of 360 exclusiviness.

[gunm]

I'm not really blown away with this EA Presser so far.

[dallow]

I'm sure ME2 will have some sort of 360 exclusiviness.Yeah, the whole game.
I expected to see it at the MS show though, like in the past.
Pre-E3 videos were all talking head videos so I wanted to see more.

Where the hell is Mistwalker though?
And Rare even if no one likes them anymore.

[zewone]

I'm not really blown away with this EA Presser so far.

It's terrible. Reminds me of a Nintendo conference. Dry and stupid.

[Jimbo Slice]

360's presser was :drool: worthy. I wish that TV service was coming to America so I could stream Premier League games.

[sotc1988]

EA's con. was pretty lame. Sure I'm excited about Bioware but they didn't blow my mind with anything. The KOTOR CG cutscene was crazy awesome though.

[Maklershed]

Just saw the Microsoft press conference and I was blown away. Far and away the best press conference at any E3. Also, I still can't wrap my brain around Project Natal. They've outWii-ed the Wii. Forget motion controllers.

[dallow]

First E3 mak?

[zewone]

What was better than MS's smartass dallow?

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http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8476/00000010.png

[Maklershed]

First E3 mak?


I challenge you and corrosivefrost to a boxing match.

[dallow]

Sounded like mak said "of all time".

[gunm]

Just saw the Microsoft press conference and I was blown away. Far and away the best press conference at any E3. Also, I still can't wrap my brain around Project Natal. They've outWii-ed the Wii. Forget motion controllers.


If MS really can deliver what they are promising w/NATAL, I agree it's pretty mind-blowing.

The segment w/Molyneux was surreal. I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of what they showed was all in his looney, out-of-touch-with-reality mind, but still...wow...

[Maklershed]

@dallow - I couldn't imagine a better conference. This one cut the bullshit and pr speaches and spoke directly to the fans of that specific console. Microsoft did that by announcing a lot of hits that people can't wait to play and most of them happen to be console exclusives.

If MS really can deliver what they are promising w/NATAL, I agree it's pretty mind-blowing.

The segment w/Molyneux was surreal. I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of what they showed was all in his looney, out-of-touch-with-reality mind, but still...wow...


Yeah, if it really works as well as they showed in that Molyneaux segment, the only way to describe it is revolutionary.

[Rei no Otaku]

Project Natal looked cool. I liked its functionality much more than the actual games they showed. I would like to use it as an interface tool, but don't want to play games like that.

[Maklershed]

I thought of Rolento when they were showing the painting app. :)

[RelentlessRolento]

I thought of Rolento when they were showing the painting app. :)

I don't even paint :lol: I missed that part, cuz I had to leave for a meeting >_<


out of the three past years this has been the best 360 E3. Nothing really took me by surprise but basically everything was very impressive.

To be honest, i'm kinda sad about the lack of XBLA news :(

Was most happy to see alan wake finally, and crackdown 2 will be more fun.

Also, I'm not the type who's into social websites as much as others, but MS was very smart to get twitter and facebook. IMHO they need to focus on cornering that market more than the casual gaming crowd since I consider the 360 a more social based machine than all my others.

what's next, is konami's press today or tomorrow? and when does tomorrow's press stuff start?


just came back from a meeting and I now have my own artist studio! yay! and on top of that, swung by TRU and got PS3 Buzz for $10. Good day so far :)

[Rei no Otaku]

Konami is tomorow, and I believe everything starts at 11am.

EDIT: James Cameron looks a bit haggard XD

[dallow]

WTF, you too ReRo?
This is the Best E3 of All Time?! I highly doubt the Nintendo and Sony shows will be any better. New hardware is always nice though.

Oh come on now, we have fonder and longer memories than that.

Like you said mak, it was straight to the point, for "the fans". (though it's really for the press)
The main thing missing from this conference besides the lack of big surprises (and no, a multiplat Kojima game barely counts with all the hints we've received) was the pomp and circumstance that E3 is all about. Being cocky, showing off, making a spectacle of everything. Here we just had games we mostly knew about and a pretty cool motion interface thingy that has all the odds in the world stacked against it.

[Maklershed]

I dont know what to tell ya dallow_bg. They did exactly what I want in a press conference .. got right to the exclusives and cut out the bullshit.

I have my fingers crossed that Sony will do the same thing tomorrow.

(and I dont give a fuck about Nintendo :lol:)


To be honest, i'm kinda sad about the lack of XBLA news :(



I thought Shadow Complex looks awesome. Joy Ride looks like it might be fun too.

EDIT: Did anyone else see the humor in them showing off that horrible looking Tony Hawk game with the giant (and presumably expensive peripheral) and then 40 minutes later they show off that Project Natal and they show the kid doing the same thing without any peripheral at all.

[Rei no Otaku]

While I don't agree with the "best ever" opinions, it was definitely awesome. As Mak just said, they gave us what we wanted out of a conference. No graphs or BS. Just games. Not only that but almost all of them were given a good amount of screen time with actual demos being played.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I just want a pdf that shows the release schedules. Conferences are for the mass media, gamers keep up with the news and dont need the fluff. Additionally, they waste tons of developer time working on demos and videos.

[dallow]

Agree to disagree. ;)

Sony better have ironic charts about how well they're doing tomorrow is all I'm saying.
I also want teases of games 2 or 3 years away!
A couple 150" screens would help too.

[RelentlessRolento]

Konami is tomorow, and I believe everything starts at 11am.

EDIT: James Cameron looks a bit haggard XD


11am EST or PST?

if so, what time in that time zone?

[refusedchaos]

^pst

Konami

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:00 PM PST

[FriskyTanuki]

EA says that they sold 600k copies of EA Sports Active in May. /Wii Fit 2

[Maklershed]

Cool .. rewards for avatars.

[RelentlessRolento]

WTF, you too ReRo?
This is the Best E3 of All Time?! I highly doubt the Nintendo and Sony shows will be any better. New hardware is always nice though.



I'm not saying it's the best of all time, it's just alot stronger than it has been in a while. Nothing really excited me today, but it was a solid lineup.

Don't think I'm loving what I saw, cuz I honestly didn't find much I wanted today, other than just being generally impressed off and on.

[Rei no Otaku]

Red Steel 2 looks mediocre at best.

[RelentlessRolento]

so can anyone answer me? whens the presser start tomorrow EST?

[dallow]

Tomorrow is Nintendo, Sony, then a smaller Nintendo thing with Miyamoto like last year.

Wednesday SquareEnix followed by Konami.

EDIT:
ReRo

Nintendo at 12EST
Sony at 2EST.

[Rei no Otaku]

so can anyone answer me? whens the presser start tomorrow EST?
G4 has it starting at 11am EST.

[RelentlessRolento]

Ok i'm confused now :lol:

so 11 or 12 EST ?

[dallow]

Boy and his Blob looks fantastic on Wii.
My only concern is the boy's voice and yelling seem to get annoying after a bit.
They should fix that and learn from ICO.

Pretty sure it's 12 EST rero.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Not sure if I'll be around for the press Conferences tomorrow. I want to atleast see Nintendo and Sony's events...

Kojima Productions is doing a Castlevania game? I'm not sure what to think...

[RelentlessRolento]

K dallow thx :)

I do say that Epic game looks great. lets hope the price stays great.

[Maklershed]

Agree to disagree. ;)



Don't worry dallow .. tomorrow I'll be saying WTF when you proclaim how great Sony's conference was after they talk for 20 minutes about how great their sales are and then announce a few super niche Japanese titles with bizarre music and colorful blobs that have ^__^ faces. :lol:


Boy and his Blob looks fantastic on Wii.
My only concern is the boy's voice and yelling seem to get annoying after a bit.


Ahh wtf? A Boy and His Blob remake for the Wii? Between that and Klonoa I'm starting to really want one now .. at least for a few days.



I do say that Epic game looks great. lets hope the price stays great.


I guarantee it'll be at least $20

[dallow]

Damn Mak, go to IGN or gametrailers and look it up!
Also, sounds like a dream E3 to me. 8-)

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/959/959158/a-boy-and-his-blob-20090304101123498_640w.jpg

[Maklershed]

They should remake Hugo's House of Horrors for the Wii too.

[FriskyTanuki]

Dallow didn't see enough water that was to his liking.

[Rei no Otaku]

I thought Splinter Cell Conviction looked really cool, and I don't even like Splinter Cell.

[sotc1988]

This Ubi conference sucks. But I didn't need to tell you that did I?

[Rei no Otaku]

Yeah, this shit is boring as hell.

[Jimbo Slice]

They should remake Hugo's House of Horrors for the Wii too.

That would be incredible. They should bring out the whole Hugo collection somewhere. Instant purchase for me.

[Rei no Otaku]

Did Ubisoft already rip off Natal? lol.

[Azumangaman]

My favourite part of the MS conference was them basically shitting all over Tony Hawks new skateboard game with the Project Natal stuff. He's definitely really, really pissed.
I'll be at school so I won't see Nintendo's, but I'll record Sonys, just because they don't suck ass like Nintendo.

I just want some Ratchet info...

[Rei no Otaku]

No one else is still watching E3 live?

[pete5883]

I am. I see Rabbids. Imagine (as in Imagine Babiez) outsold just about everything on DS.

What they showed of Brutal Legend was embarassing.

[Rei no Otaku]

I see them too unfortunately. I hate the rabbids...

[pete5883]

Someone really needed to drag Cameron off stage.

Anyone going to be in the Uncharted 2 beta? We should get a co-op team together.

[gunm]

Just got my code for U2 multi beta today.

[dallow]

1 vs 100 beta tonight for USA. 45 mins

[pete5883]

Koh-a-booon-ga? Oh, French people.

[dallow]

From where gunm?

[Rei no Otaku]

Someone really needed to drag Cameron off stage.

Anyone going to be in the Uncharted 2 beta? We should get a co-op team together.
Yeah, Cameron was a mess. Plus he was pretty much just there to sell his movie.

I'll be in the Uncharted 2 beta.

Also new trailer for AC2!

[Jesus_S_Preston]

I'm pissed I'll be in school for the big 3 pressers.

Is Cammie Whatsherdick going to show up at Ninty's and play frisbee?

[EXStrike]

She'll be at their press conference.

[hankmecrankme]

Dunno if this has been posted, but whatev.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJfZ6TjU1WQ

[pete5883]

Surprised someone is smart enough to bundle the Motion Plus with all copies of their game. Though I guess when your game requires it, you kind of have to.

[EXStrike]

Surprised someone is smart enough to bundle the Motion Plus with their game. Though I guess when your game requires it, you kind of have to.

Tiger Woods 10 is also getting bundled with MotionPlus.

[pete5883]

But Tiger Woods is also being sold without the WM+, isn't it? I think all copies of RS2 have it.

[jer7583]

MS Press conference was pretty good. The Ubisoft one was just horrible.

I think Natal could work. It depends on how much MS pushes it and supports it. It could make for some really cool slight integrations and enhancements in games with head tracking and slight motion controls, but I dunno.

Splinter Cell was the biggest surprise of the show. That is looking really good.

[Scorch]

Sony's getting 2 hours for their conference. Microsoft had 90 minutes. Nintendo gets an hour.

And just go here for the counter and figure it out for yourself what time it starts..

http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/nintendo-e3/

Nintendo's first up tomorrow.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

I haven't slept since Saturday night, can someone explain this MS motion thing.

[VipFREAK]

Does anyone actually care about Nintendo other than maybe married people... ?

[BlueScrote]

Not sure if I'll be around for the press Conferences tomorrow. I want to atleast see Nintendo and Sony's events...

Kojima Productions is doing a Castlevania game? I'm not sure what to think...


Hopefully the vampires in castlevania don't have retarded character designs like vamp in MGS.

[sotc1988]

Showed my mom the natal presentation and she was blown away. She said that the Molyneux project was "like Skynet scary." I think I see one of those in her future.

[pete5883]

Sony's getting 2 hours for their conference. Microsoft had 90 minutes. Nintendo gets an hour.

And just go here for the counter and figure it out for yourself what time it starts..

http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/sony-e3/
http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/nintendo-e3/

Nintendo's first up tomorrow.

MS went 2 hours though. I think they'll take as much time as they want. If Nintendo really has only 1 hour I hope they cut out the graphs and charts.

I haven't slept since Saturday night, can someone explain this MS motion thing.

Microsoft is coming around to everyone's house and adding a camera to the front of everyone's 360. It is always on, even when the system's off. It is watching you all the time, so every time you turn it on, a creepy kid named Milo will chide you for going to bed too late, or only brushing your teeth once a day, or whatever he's seen you doing. He will ask you if you've been exercising regularly, and he will know if you are lying. He will then force you to draw an increasingly disturbing series of pictures for some sick "project" he's working on.

Does anyone actually care about Nintendo other than maybe married people... ?
New Mario or Zelda or something has got to be coming. Doesn't it?

[js1]

I'll be in the Uncharted beta also.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Microsoft is coming around to everyone's house and adding a camera to the front of everyone's 360. It is always on, even when the system's off. It is watching you all the time, so every time you turn it on, a creepy kid named Milo will chide you for going to bed too late, or only brushing your teeth once a day, or whatever he's seen you doing. He will ask you if you've been exercising regularly, and he will know if you are lying. He will then force you to draw an increasingly disturbing series of pictures for some sick "project" he's working on.

Fuck

[FriskyTanuki]

1 vs 100 beta is a spectacular failure.

[Krymner]

Rewatched the MS presser again (missed some parts earlier). Showed some impressive exclusives. Still not sold on the motion thingy, and I agree with what jer said. Totally depends on how MS pushes it, pricing, and 3rd-party support. If all we get are Wii-ports, then I can't but think it will fail.

I do think MS presser will be hard to beat. Maybe if Nintendo comes out with guns blazing and shows some new Mario, Zelda and other hardcore-centric games and cuts out the casual crap, maybe. But I doubt it will be enough to get me excited and wanting to buy a Wii.

I'm not really expecting too much from Sony tho. God of War 3, and maybe some FFXIII (and Versus) news is all I'm really wanting to hear about.

[Jimbo Slice]

1 vs 100 beta is a spectacular failure.

how?

I'm having a good time with it.

[FriskyTanuki]

The insanely small limit (50k) for how many people can get in at one time. I was in the lobby waiting for it to start when they said it was at about 22k and it kicked me so that I was told it was full when I tried to get back in.

[sotc1988]

The insanely small limit (50k) for how many people can get in at one time. I was in the lobby waiting for it to start when they said it was at about 22k and it kicked me so that I was told it was full when I tried to get back in.
Home is awesome.

[seanr1221]

Rewatched the MS presser again (missed some parts earlier). Showed some impressive exclusives. Still not sold on the motion thingy, and I agree with what jer said. Totally depends on how MS pushes it, pricing, and 3rd-party support. If all we get are Wii-ports, then I can't but think it will fail.

I do think MS presser will be hard to beat. Maybe if Nintendo comes out with guns blazing and shows some new Mario, Zelda and other hardcore-centric games and cuts out the casual crap, maybe. But I doubt it will be enough to get me excited and wanting to buy a Wii.

I'm not really expecting too much from Sony tho. God of War 3, and maybe some FFXIII (and Versus) news is all I'm really wanting to hear about.

Where did you rewatch it? G4 isn't working for me.

[FriskyTanuki]

No, it's not.

[nyprimus4]

I'm not kidding that with what is contained in this video and all the youtube clips from the Madden 10 producers, Madden 10 could be my overall GOTY 2009.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-madden-nfl/50130

I probably have close to 20 friends who buy Madden every year, and about half of them were at the midnight launch with me for 09.

[whoknows]

So the MS press conference is worth watching? I was at work :cry:

When is Nintendo/Sony happening?

EDIT: Nvm...just saw Scorch's links...

[Lions]

1vs100 is fun. I have about 45 sweepstake tickets to hopefully win something. :P

[js1]

I'm not kidding that with what is contained in this video and all the youtube clips from the Madden 10 producers, Madden 10 could be my overall GOTY 2009.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-madden-nfl/50130

I probably have close to 20 friends who buy Madden every year, and about half of them were at the midnight launch with me for 09.

If it's done right, that could be so awesome!:drool::drool::drool:

[Azumangaman]

i'm not kidding that with what is contained in this video and all the youtube clips from the madden 10 producers, madden 10 could be my overall goty 2009.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-madden-nfl/50130

i probably have close to 20 friends who buy madden every year, and about half of them were at the midnight launch with me for 09.
holy shit.
I can run a really amazing madden 10 league with little hassle!
Hell yes!!!!!!
Cag league here we come!

[nyprimus4]

My summary of E3.

Madden NFL 10 with online franchise 32 teams, trades, free agency, fantasy draft, full stat tracking.
Assassin's Creed 2. Hopefully less repetitive. Renaissance Italy looks amazing.
Modern Warfare 2 with two exclusive 360 map packs.
Splinter Cell Conviction 360 exclusive with awesome looking graphics, gameplay, story, and that cool thing where they project your objective into the environment.
APB with customization that looks like something a developer would be using to create a game (in a good way, it's really in depth, even a tattoo creator), hopefully the gameplay can be awesome as well.
Crysis 2 to consoles, sweet.
Alan Wake revealed. Looks fucking sweet. First truly great adventure game on 360.
Brutal Legend. Hopefully the next cult classic in the vein of Pyschonauts.
Metal Gear Solid: Rising. So sick.
Halo 3: ODST. Looks amazing and Halo Reach beta will be included with it.
Forza 3. Shit load of cars and tracks. Cockpit view and sick graphics.
Crackdown 2. No more cartoony graphics.
Left 4 Dead 2. Day time, new weapons, bosses, and generally bigger. 360/PC exclusive.
Beatles: Rock Band with exclusive song that proceeds will go to charity.
Final Fantasy XIII running on 360.
Blur. Mario Kart meets PGR.

The Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition. The trailers they've shown make it look like the gameplay could actually work really well on 360.
Shadow Complex. Metroidvania Epic exclusive XBLA game.
TMNT: Turtles in Time Re-Shelled. Turtles in Time in 3D, maybe more improvements we don't know.
Marvel vs. Capcom 2. Upgraded graphics, online play, 16:9.
Battlefield 1943: Pacific. 24 players. Planes, jeeps, carrier boats with turrets. 3 maps, 4th when the 360 community has accumulated 43 million kills. Awesome graphics.

last.fm - Wow what a cool addition to 360. Now I don't have to my computer on running WMP or have my iTouch not work seamlessly with my 360. This is really cool especially for sports games. Free to XBL Gold. Niceeee.
Facebook, Twitter - Cool but I doubt I will use either. I'm happy 360 locked both of these down though.
Project Natal - I agree that this and digital distribution will revolutionize gaming.
Instant On 1080P - Has the potential to be megaton.
DD Games - It's the future, gotta start somewhere.
Purchase/Be able to win Avatar Clothing - We knew this was coming sometime.

I don't care about PS3, but I'm thinking about getting PSP Go! because I'm commuting to college probably for 3 hours a day so I'll pay attention to PSP stuff which should be a big deal with this new Go! redesign.

Ef Nintendo.

[Rei no Otaku]

Probably the most exciting thing for me so far was the last.fm addition. I'm a huge music person, so that's really awesome that we'll be getting that for no charge.

[Azumangaman]

Madden 10 Online Franchise, L4D2 and Last.fm have made my day.
I gotta say, the PSP Go! is tempting me.
If its cool, I'll sell my PSP-2000 and grab one of those when they come out.

[Rei no Otaku]

L4D2=too soon.

PSP Go is tempting, but unless Sony offers me some sort of program to get digital copies of all my UMD games then I'm going to have to carry around 2 PSPs. That's kind of silly.

[sotc1988]

I'm also in the too soon l4d boat but this is valve here and I'm hoping they include it within a orange box type thing with portal 2 and ep. 3, I know I'm crazy.

[Jimbo Slice]

L4D 2... why too soon? I'm basically finished with the original L4D, but would love to play some more content. I'd rather have a new disc based game than 5 new campaigns for the original. So much more opportunity to branch out using the disc-based games.

[DarthPuma]

I'll get the PSP go if it launches at 150 and in June or July.

We all know neither of those is happening.

[Furashu]

I'll get the PSP go if it launches at 150 and in June or July.

We all know neither of those is happening.
i bet its coming in september.

glad to hear about madden 2010 franchise mode online and the new metal gear solid on psp, and MGS Rising. yay

[DarthPuma]

i bet its coming in september.

glad to hear about madden 2010 franchise mode online and the new metal gear solid on psp, and MGS Rising. yay

I'm thinking August.

Just beat Bionic Commando. Don't know what the fuck that story was about. That game features some of the most painful VA and dialouge I've ever seen. :lol:

[zewone]

WTF, you too ReRo?
This is the Best E3 of All Time?! I highly doubt the Nintendo and Sony shows will be any better. New hardware is always nice though.

Oh come on now, we have fonder and longer memories than that.

Like you said mak, it was straight to the point, for "the fans". (though it's really for the press)
The main thing missing from this conference besides the lack of big surprises (and no, a multiplat Kojima game barely counts with all the hints we've received) was the pomp and circumstance that E3 is all about. Being cocky, showing off, making a spectacle of everything. Here we just had games we mostly knew about and a pretty cool motion interface thingy that has all the odds in the world stacked against it.

When Sony announces the PS3 Slim and PSP GO tomorrow (including MGS: PSP, LBP PSP, etc...) I don't want to hear you bring them up as positives.

You are out of control.

[whoknows]

MS was definitely a step up from last year for sure.

Then again, as far as last year goes, I was pretty disappointed. MS and Sony were ok....Nintendo was awful at best.

[zewone]

Yep. Last year was awful.

[whoknows]

The only thing I want from E3 this year is Yakuza 3 in the U.S. Not going to happen though :cry:

I hope Sony has something good to announce, and they don't focus on PSP Go and the PS3 slim. I have no expectations for Nintendo.

[blitz6speed]

looks like there will be a new Super Mario Bros announced for the wii tomorrow. That will push nintendos conference up pretty high if it turns out to be true.

[KingBroly]

A 2d Mario platformer on Wii? I think everyone's in for that. It's probably too much to ask for online co-op with Wii Speak (although, if it had it, it'd probably be the best thing ever).

I think it'd be cool if you could the A button on the Wiimote to change the type of Mario game. Like you could change it to Mario 1, 2, 3 or World to solve certain puzzles based on the game's physics engine.

[Jimbo Slice]

I think it'd be cool if you could the A button on the Wiimote to change the type of Mario game. Like you could change it to Mario 1, 2, 3 or World to solve certain puzzles based on the game's physics engine.

That would be like the most obscure and stupid thing ever.

Sorry not trying to be a dick. :bouncy:

[sotc1988]

L4D 2... why too soon? I'm basically finished with the original L4D, but would love to play some more content. I'd rather have a new disc based game than 5 new campaigns for the original. So much more opportunity to branch out using the disc-based games.
Valve promised to support the game after release like they do with TF2 and to release a full priced sequel seemed a little rash. Valve doesn't do quick. They take their time and people just assumed they would keep releasing free dlc because that's exactly what they do with tf2.

[gunm]

A new SMB...meh.

[zewone]

I couldn't care less about a Mario game.

or the Wii for that matter.

[zewone]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989245p1.html

With Microsoft unveiling the potentially revolutionary Project Natal during its press conference today, we've already considered how games could be changed with such accurate motion controls. At a Microsoft event, we had the opportunity to experience Project Natal as it has been implemented into a pre-existing game: Burnout Paradise.

The game controls surprisingly well, with your hands controlling the steering and your feet controlling the car's acceleration. Stepping forward gives your ride some juice and stepping back hits the brakes.

Although this is just a minor taste of what's possible with Project Natal, it's great to see that the system will be possible with previously released games that might not have been designed with motion control in mind.

So awesome. Before today, I was very skeptical of a motion controlling camera, now I'm a believer.

[RelentlessRolento]

A new SMB...meh.


Don't worry, it already happened:

http://secondstorygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/newsupermariobrothers.jpg

[Mr. Beef]

Even though it'd be ridiculous to execute, I wonder how a Natal-fueled Mirror's Edge would look?

[zewone]

Even though it'd be ridiculous to execute, I wonder how a Natal-fueled Mirror's Edge would look?

Awesome to the max.

[heavyd853]

Awesome to the max.

I can almost guarantee you I'd destroy something before I finish the game, should that be implemented.

[seanr1221]

I'm going to hold off on giving an opinion on Natal until I try it. If it is responsive, it could be revolutionary. If it controls like the Wii...not so much.

[mykevermin]

sean is a savvy individual. I side with him...by, I suppose, sitting on the fence.

when is sony and nintendo's things? i've been a busy dude, so I haven't been paying attention for shit.

[pete5883]

Nintendo is noonish EST. Not sure about Sorny.

I want to be optimistic about Natal, but we did see the avatar freak out when the guy was just standing there. And he was wearing fuckin bright orange, how hard could it be to see that?

[jer7583]

I hope NSMB2 is behind that curtain. And I hope it plays like SMB2 US - not like NSMB1

[mykevermin]

Classic moment to remember from the Ubisoft press conference: As the company displayed its roster of Imagine games the crowd was so tickled by the surreality of the moment, that the chuckling got pretty bad. It was quieted fairly quickly though when one large gentleman remarked "Laugh it up, my daughter buys all this shit, and I'm the one paying for it."

:rofl:

[benjamouth]

That BB DOTD for House of the Dead Overkill is tempting, but I think I'll wait till its $19.99 on Amazon with no tax and shipping.

[pete5883]

I thought it was funny that the Ubi guy wanted the crowd to guess what their top-selling DS property was, someone yelled out "Imagine Babiez!" and he said "nope." And then the answer was Imagine.

[EXStrike]

Nintendo is noonish EST. Not sure about Sorny.

Sony is 2PM eastern

[mykevermin]

bollocks; I have class from 2-4PM, so I'll miss all of it.

Guess I'll get to see the debut of Wii Fit 2: Electric Boogaloo live, though.

[dallow]

I'm quite surprised you guys have so much faith in Natal.
Think this is the accessory that will actually sell? No doubt it looks cool, and would be awesome if it worked as well as it did in the concept video.
Jimmy Fallon is going to have it on his show this or next week, I want to see if they get a real game working with it.

When Sony announces the PS3 Slim and PSP GO tomorrow (including MGS: PSP, LBP PSP, etc...) I don't want to hear you bring them up as positives.

You are out of control.
Got you covered, I already said I don't expect much in the Sony thread since everything's been leaked.

Only an updated, non-concept video of Trico would satisfy, or some other surprise no one sees coming.

Nintendo is the only show where I don't expect a thing, well, I didn't until I saw the Super Mario thing. :(

[KingBroly]

Always Bet on Mario

[Krymner]

Final Fantasy XII is still fun after 35 hours in. I think I like it more than I did FFX. The story has kinda slowed down, and I'm not too sure on all the political empire stuff they keep showing in cutscenes, but its still entertaining.

My biggest concern with the Natal thing is the pricing. It's gotta cost under $100 to even get my attention. Even then it better come with some kinda pack-in that isn't MS Sports.

[tiredfornow]

Mario is so dang boring now. Day one for any adventure Mario games. :oops:

[Maklershed]

1 vs 100 beta tonight for USA. 45 mins


I was part of the mob in the third round. :whee:

Did anyone else make it in to the mob?


1 vs 100 beta is a spectacular failure.


I completely disagree. I had a blast. No big technical problems* and it was a lot of fun. You're just pissy because I kicked your ass in a major way on a consistent basis. 8-)


*although I think sometimes I was supposed to be hearing the announcer guy talk but I wasnt

[tiredfornow]

I couldn't even get into the dang game.

[manthing]

The 1 vs 100 thing last night was a joke.

[Flak]

*although I think sometimes I was supposed to be hearing the announcer guy talk but I wasnt
Same, they just put in subtitles.

Project Milo is so fail, and so creepy if it wasn't fail. She felt the need to catch the goggles? If that statement came from someone else, I might have been dumb enough to believe it.

[depascal22]

Finished Just Cause yesterday. It's not a great game by any means but I had fun with it.

[dallow]

I think I saw you mak, JFD, and someone else all in the mob.
Game was full for me so I just got ready to watch Conan.

[dallow]

I'm pulling for Steve Wiebe.

http://www.justin.tv/G4TV_WiebeCam (http://www.justin.tv/G4TV_WiebeCam)

[dallow]

Nintendo has started, but no one seems to care. :(

[sotc1988]

Pretty low key to bring out the new super mario and not have any flash and awe. This idea is tired at this point and I thought I'd be way into the idea of a new mario but...eh.

[Mr. Beef]

NSMB for Wii, huh? Could be fun, 'specially since it's 4-players.

[dallow]

Multiplayer NSMB.... alright.
Wii Fit Plus.... ugh.

[Krymner]

Missed the first of the Nintendo conferance, just caught the tail end of NSMB Wiil. Ugh.

Wii Fit plus...ugh.

[sotc1988]

And now we're onto motion plus. Doing what the controller promised since 2006...in 2009.
EDIT: I do have to admit that summer resort looks like it will have a good amount of mini games, it just needs to be a regular price with the add-on included.

[Krymner]

Wii motion plus now. Feels so 2008.

And I'm gettin tired of the "pluses"

[dallow]

Same show as last year....

[dallow]

They poked fun of Natal.
"On video, you can do anything!"

Ironic comment though.

[Krymner]

Yup. Near enough.

[Flak]

Yeah just deja vu minus graphics (so far).

PS Cammy you are a terrible public speaker.

[Krymner]

Almost half an hour in, and all we've seen are 2 games? And one was shown last year.

[sotc1988]

Why does everybody go gaga over Reggie? I can't stand that guy.

Oh great, slide shows.

[dallow]

I can't believe this might actually be worse than last year.
I thought you couldn't go any lower.

[Krymner]

FF Crystal Bearers...I'll hold off on opinions till I see more, but doesn't look too impressive just yet.

[Mr. Beef]

At least there's a confirm date for Kingdom Hearts DS. Also, CC looked...nice.

[Krymner]

Is that Bowser game Mario & Luigi RPG 3?

[Krymner]

Hmm..Golden Sun DS. Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't too much a fan of the GBA game tho.