General Role-Playing Game Thread [Mobile/Archive] - Page 4

KingBroly

02-25-2009, 12:52 AM

Um...I just recently beat Chrono Trigger. It's definitely the best RPG I've ever played. I say that because everything they did with the game was well thought out and not overly complex.

I'm going through Final Fantasy III because I just want to make progress on it, and see where I can get in it. And before I head back to Final Fantasy IV on DS, and eventually Final Fantasy VI on GBA, I want to beat this one. I mean, I've only ever beaten ONE main Final Fantasy game (Final Fantasy).

Chacrana

02-25-2009, 11:10 AM

Any impressions of Star Ocean, guys? I'm basically looking for Star Ocean 3, but not terrible. It'd also be nice if the AI isn't fucking retarded with its magic usage now, and if running out of MP doesn't kill you. There aren't too many reviews out yet, so I dunno...

FloodsAreUponUS

02-25-2009, 11:32 AM

Rei no Otaku

02-25-2009, 01:12 PM

Zewone said it was terrible.
It's not terrible. I'm about 2 hours in, and while it's no Vesperia, it's still decent. Not sure if it's worth $60 yet, but it's not a bad game.

reformed stoner

02-25-2009, 01:18 PM

i just started playing infinite undiscovery seems ok except yhe voice acting

Chibi_Kaji

02-25-2009, 01:20 PM

I'll probably just try and get SO4 off of Goozex.

FloodsAreUponUS

02-25-2009, 01:30 PM

It's not terrible. I'm about 2 hours in, and while it's no Vesperia, it's still decent. Not sure if it's worth $60 yet, but it's not a bad game.

You said the same about IU.

Rei no Otaku

02-25-2009, 01:45 PM

Because it's true. IU isn't a terrible game, it's just terribly mediocre.

A terrible game is something like X-Blades which was almost unplayable due to it's utter shittiness.

Rodimus

03-07-2009, 05:44 PM

Can anyone tell me about how long the one-player story mode is in Phantasy Star Universe?

Spades22

03-07-2009, 05:54 PM

Hmm been like half a year since I played it but I think it was around 20 or so if you run straight through. If you synthesize stuff and get clothes for your character or whatever, I'd say up to 30 hours. I wouldn't buy it unless playing online though...but for a quick run through on single player it was actually kind of fun :D

LostRoad

03-07-2009, 05:55 PM

Can anyone tell me about how long the one-player story mode is in Phantasy Star Universe?

Depending on how much grinding/crafting/working on your PM it shouldn't take you any more than twenty hours to knock out. From what I have read from others it can be done in a shorter time, or longer. For myself, I think I hit the sixty eight hour mark on story alone maxing things out. If you want to go more in depth with the game I suggest checking out http://www.pso-world.com

Rodimus

03-07-2009, 05:59 PM

Thanks guys.

I've never played the single player but clocked in about 100 hours online. I always wanted to beat the single player portion of this game, so I started playing it this morning. So far I'm liking it.

LostRoad

03-07-2009, 06:06 PM

Glad to hear that you like it. I thought it held true to the Phantasy Star charm story wise. On a side note, I highly recommend PS:P. I'm really loving it ( no shock ). So much so the gf is threatening to have me sleep on the couch if I come to bed with it again this week :cry:

willardhaven

03-07-2009, 06:07 PM

Isn't there a monthly fee for Phantasy Star?

LostRoad

03-07-2009, 06:14 PM

$9.99 to play online yes.

JEKKI

03-07-2009, 06:24 PM

whoo! imort review of Valkyrie Profile DS

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/valkyrieprofile-ds/index.html

my anticipated game of March! get the hype!!

willardhaven

03-07-2009, 06:26 PM

I would be excited if it wasn't an SRPG, blech.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-07-2009, 06:41 PM

I would be if they were not taking shit out of the final game in the US.
Huzzah.

Rodimus

03-09-2009, 05:37 PM

After about 10 more hours of the PSU Story Mode and I must say it's not a bad story. I'm actually having alot more fun that I thought I would. The characters are likable, plus getting those easy achievements is a nice bonus ;) I should've played through this long ago.

Rei no Otaku

03-09-2009, 05:43 PM

I would be if they were not taking shit out of the final game in the US.
Huzzah.
Such as?

FloodsAreUponUS

03-09-2009, 05:47 PM

Such as?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353425&highlight=profile

Jest

03-10-2009, 02:13 AM

Whats GRPGT been playing?

I started FFXII up again today, logged between 5 and 6 hours. I will finish it this time I tell you! I get so addicted to the Hunt stuff. FFTA and TA2 was like crack to me.

Razzuel

03-10-2009, 02:20 AM

Whats GRPGT been playing?

I started FFXII up again today, logged between 5 and 6 hours. I will finish it this time I tell you! I get so addicted to the Hunt stuff. FFTA and TA2 was like crack to me.

I am trying to finish my life long quest in beating The Last Remnant and achieving 1000/1000 points from it. After that I plan on starting up Persona 4, which should take another lifetime to complete. Hopefully after that I will be able to play Persona 3 since I bought it, but neglected it.

You know, I bought Final Fantasy XII back when it was released, but I was only able to get to the Giza Plains before something else grabbed my attention.

There are too many good games to play.

Krymner

03-10-2009, 02:42 AM

Whats GRPGT been playing?

I started FFXII up again today, logged between 5 and 6 hours. I will finish it this time I tell you! I get so addicted to the Hunt stuff. FFTA and TA2 was like crack to me.

I'm taking a short break from RPGs for a bit. Other than playing a little Chrono Trigger DS on the crapper, and a little Valkyria Chronicles here and there, I don't want to get too involved now in a big RPG cause I've gotta pack and move very soon.

But FFXII is on my list to play next as soon as I'm settled into my new place.

62t

03-10-2009, 04:26 AM

I been playing Super Robot Taisen W non stop now. Can't wait for K even though I am not really familiar with the series in that game.

pete5883

03-10-2009, 09:29 AM

Just finished Legacy of Ys. It was alright, I wouldn't really recommend it.

The worst part: towards the end of Ys II, you have to re-find someone you encountered earlier so they can give you a sword that you need to progress. As soon as I found them, I wrote down how to get to them so I could find them easily. Half hour later, I need to find them. And I can't. Wandered around for an hour, very annoyed, before I remembered that I wrote it down :bomb::bomb:

willardhaven

03-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Whats GRPGT been playing?

I started FFXII up again today, logged between 5 and 6 hours. I will finish it this time I tell you! I get so addicted to the Hunt stuff. FFTA and TA2 was like crack to me.

I have been playing Tales of the Abyss (it's really long) and I have to say it is one of the best console RPGs I've ever played. I'm on a mission to finish some of my favorite games so I can start playing my 360 RPGs this summer. I'm also thinking of picking up Oblivion GotY Edition around May/June.

On deck I have:

P3
SMT: Nocturne
P4
Valkyrie Profile 2

Eternal Sonata
Tales of Vesperia

FloodsAreUponUS

03-10-2009, 10:47 AM

I am playing SO4, and I dunno how I feel about it.
I love somethings, and loathe others.

mykevermin

03-10-2009, 11:04 AM

I wish Star Ocean 2 would shut the fuck up and let me play.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-10-2009, 11:09 AM

I wish Star Ocean 2 would shut the fuck up and let me play.

SO2 is nothing chatty wise compared to SO4.

Rodimus

03-10-2009, 11:45 AM

As stated on the last page I've been playing Phantasy Star Universe story mode. A week ago I rented Star Ocean 4 and didn't like it much so I quit playing.

I was thinking about playing Magic Night Rayearth (Saturn) after I beat PSU. But with Resident Evil 5, Madworld, & DW: Gundam 2 coming out I might put that on hold.

Spades22

03-10-2009, 11:52 AM

I have been playing Tales of the Abyss (it's really long) and I have to say it is one of the best console RPGs I've ever played. I'm on a mission to finish some of my favorite games so I can start playing my 360 RPGs this summer. I'm also thinking of picking up Oblivion GotY Edition around May/June.

On deck I have:

P3
SMT: Nocturne
P4
Valkyrie Profile 2

Eternal Sonata
Tales of Vesperia

Tales of the Abyss is soooo good too. If you liked that, Vesperia is basically the exact same in terms of the likeability? of characters, but the battle system seemed a bit better yet. If you're playing them in that order, make sure you zoom through ES just to say you beat it, as the game is quite bad! XD

Rei no Otaku

03-10-2009, 12:04 PM

Been playing SO4. I like it, but at the same time there are things I don't like. Not a bad game, just hope it gets better.

willardhaven

03-10-2009, 12:05 PM

I really like the ES demo because the game reminds me of Radiata Stories. Everyone hated RS but I really enjoyed it.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-10-2009, 12:13 PM

Been playing SO4. I like it, but at the same time there are things I don't like. Not a bad game, just hope it gets better.

Where are you at?

willardhaven

03-10-2009, 12:16 PM

Nobody seems to love Star Ocean 4... I wish they would release a demo. I don't think I'll end up picking it up for more than 15-20.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Mana Knight loves SO4.

SO4 is really just SO3 in HD.
Or well just a tad over SD since it only renders battles in like 490p or something.

Rodimus

03-10-2009, 02:42 PM

Star Ocean 4 had too much kiddy JRPG dribble. When I got that creepy little doll girl that's when I decided that it was enough.

I can't count how many time's I've seen this or similar conversations in a JRPG:
Older NPC - "Ohh, is she you girlfriend, she's cute."
Main Character - "Wha!?... No.. uh, she... shes just a friend." :oops:

Rei no Otaku

03-10-2009, 02:42 PM

Where are you at?
Cardianon mothership.

AA_Punk

03-10-2009, 03:14 PM

I'm finishing up Guardian's Crusade, an old PSX RPG. For the life of me, this game just won't end. And considering its meant to be for children, there is a lot of talk of murdering and religious mumbo-jumbo in the game.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-10-2009, 03:23 PM

Cardianon mothership.

Im about 8 hours past this, and nothing really has happened in the story.

This story isint going anywhere.

NamelessMC

03-11-2009, 03:08 AM

I tried to write a user review of SO4 and I got smashed even though I outlined the things I liked.

Things I like:
Battle System
Graphics
Depth (Item Creation, tactics)

Things I don't like:
Dungeon length - I'm talking 3-5 hours per dungeon if you're playing through them the first time and don't use a guide.
Tedious battles - You fight like 140 times in each dungeon because they're in phases but it literally takes 3-5 hours of battles to get through a dungeon.

It just doesn't have the story driven aspect that SO2 had. When I played SO2 I really wanted to know what was going to happen next. In SO4 it's like... Uh.. Okay, here's another 3 hour dungeon and 100 monster fights. By the time I get to the next town, I've forgotten what the hell's going on in the story.

The other problem I have is the HUGE lack of direction with the story. They tell you what you're supposed to do next, but not how to do it, where to go, who to talk to or when.

Support character - "I know, this girl Marie in Town B has a magic spell to help!"
Lead character - "It's decided, we shall go to Town B!"

Then you get control of the character. Only, you have no idea where Town B is, how to get there, you've never been there, and none of the NPC's in town tell you where to go.

It doesn't even make sense story wise. Let's say the people in this thread, and me, went on a space ship to some planet we've never been to before. One of us got sick, and some dude said "Hey this town Mandola has a magician that can help us". Would we just go, "Okay let's go" and leave?

No, one of us would be like "Well how the hell do we get there?" and we'd have a discussion about it.

In the game? Nada, none of that. You better have GameFAQs open on your screen or you're toast.

Over all, it's a decent game, but I can't really recommend it at $60 or even a rental because you will NOT beat it before it's due. If you have GameFly, sure, get it and plan on having it a while. If you have Hollywood Video or want to buy a game, save your cash, you'll spend $16-24 trying to beat it with 5 day rentals and it's definitely not worth $60 to me.

I know some people will disagree with me/flame me, I'm used to it. I'm not a blind conformist so I'm ready for the flak, but what I say is true.

ilpalazzo150

03-11-2009, 01:40 PM

I've been playing Chrono Trigger on the DS for the last few weeks now. Unfortunately, I'm at the point I usually get to with most RPGs where I've kind of lost the desire to finish it. Already logged close to 25 hours and I think I'm near the end, so it's all level crunching from there.

Also, it turns out I did a really stupid thing earlier in the game by killing off Magus with Frog. For some reason I had the impression that if I didn't, Chrono would still be dead and Magus would replace him for the rest of the game. Yeah...

DQT

03-11-2009, 11:36 PM

The only reason you'd need to grind in CT is if you skip the side missions and the new content (which admittedly isn't very good). I got my characters to level 67-68 by doing everything.

ilpalazzo150

03-12-2009, 12:53 AM

Really? Hm. Could've sworn that I've already done all the side missions (minus the new one), and the highest level in my game is 60. Maybe I'm missing something.

DQT

03-12-2009, 03:42 AM

Actually, that sounds about right. I did gain a few levels in the new fetch quests. Like I said before, they aren't much fun but you do get some great weapons.

Rodimus

03-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Guess my next RPG will be Suikoden Teirkreis. I'm still a little disapointed that the story won't tie-in with the series.

willardhaven

03-13-2009, 07:10 PM

Rodimus

03-13-2009, 07:29 PM

I'm not sure what they were thinking when they made Teirkreis. The only reason I'm buying it is because it has Suikoden in the title. I'm sure it'll be a fine RPG but they did away with so many elements that make Suikoden stand apart it might as well be named anything. The only Suikoden aspect that remained intact was the crazy amount of playable characters. Something like 94.

As for future RPGs I can't think of much. I know I'll be picking up Devil Summoner 2. I'm also keeping an eye on Arc Rise Fantasia, which looks suspiciously similar to a "Tales of" game. And besides FFXIII I can't think of much else to get excited about.

willardhaven

03-13-2009, 07:33 PM

I pre-ordered Devil Summoner 2 to flip, if it ends up being a gem I guess I'll re-buy it our keep mine. The first DS sucked ass.

Rodimus

03-13-2009, 07:42 PM

I don't think the first Devil Summoner was as horrible as people say. It's not on par with it's SMT brothers & sisters but I had fun with it. I also really like Kazuma Kaneko's art style. It just screams SMT. I want to see him do more character designs.

willardhaven

03-13-2009, 07:43 PM

I liked the setting and even the story seemed decent, but the battles sucked and the encounters were too frequent.

Rodimus

03-13-2009, 07:47 PM

Yes, the random encounter rate was a bit high. And it would have been acceptable if the the battles were more than just mash "X" button.

willardhaven

03-13-2009, 07:51 PM

As far as SMT goes, I just roll with Nocturne or P3/4 if I want a fix.

StarKnightX

03-13-2009, 09:14 PM

Anyone here played through Luminous Arc and can tell me about how long it is?

JEKKI

03-14-2009, 12:35 AM

more Valkyrioe Profile DS reviews!!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/962/962027p1.html 8.5
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3173234&p=39 B

more hype!!

my plan for the weekend is to try to beat DQIV, which I've had since it came out lol.

I think I'm close to the end... I was tryin to play jus now but my DS ran out of batteries >_<

DQT

03-14-2009, 12:37 AM

Looks like a poor man's FF III. Why don't they just port Suikoden II, do they have a problem with money?
I don't see much on the horizon for me aside from the next Tales entry or perhaps SMT 4 if it's ever announced. FF XIII I'll buy out of obligation if I see a good deal. Anybody have any games I should be looking forward to?

Both PS Suikodens were on the PSP as a compilation, but was Japan only. I heard Sony's approval process blocked it from coming here though. I'm sure Konami wanted to put it out.

willardhaven

03-14-2009, 01:17 AM

I remember that, but I still think Suikoden II on DS is a no brainer.

Poor2More

03-14-2009, 01:27 AM

I am drawn to this DS game I picked up for $12 at a mom and pop shop, the game is called "From the Abyss" pretty good action RPG, I put three hours into it in one sitting :)

NamelessMC

03-15-2009, 04:42 PM

I feel like I need to get SO4 to beat it or to really put time into it. I guess the main reason I didn't like it is because I get figgity if I spend more than 3-4 hours playing a game at a time, and with SO4, you HAD to put in 3-4 hours just to get to another save point.

But it's really between SO4 and Lost Odyssey. I'll also pick up Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata but I'm not sure which games come first.

The story in LO beats out any of the other RPG's, but the gameplay in SO4 puts to shame any others.

And don't recommend Tales of Vesperia please. I had a REALLY hard time stomaching the voice acting in that game.

willardhaven

03-15-2009, 05:03 PM

From what I can tell, SO4 has much more bothersome voice acting...

Who the hell cares though?

xistence

03-15-2009, 05:38 PM

Picked up a few new RPGs (PS3) and I'm having trouble deciding which to start. I got:

Disgaea 3
Valkyria Chronicles
Oblivion: GOTY (coming from Goozex)

My last completed RPG was Fallout 3, which I enjoyed minus the ending. Any recommendations on which to start?

willardhaven

03-15-2009, 05:46 PM

VC seems like it's a lot of fun from what people have said.

JEKKI

03-15-2009, 05:58 PM

I beat DQIV friday nite! whoo!!

but... when u beat the game there's a lot of post-game stuff, and I hear u gotta be like a real high level to play it.

my character is level 33, and I dont wanna grind to 40 >_<

Grandia II is still kinda fun tho... hella easy as pie tho.

I never buy new armor or weapons, I never upgrade my skills or equip new ones, but I still win and I'm like 9 hours in lol

Rodimus

03-15-2009, 06:15 PM

If I had a PS3 the first game I'd go out and buy is Valkyria Chronicles. Unfortunatly, it's the only game I'd buy.

NamelessMC

03-15-2009, 07:20 PM

From what I can tell, SO4 has much more bothersome voice acting...

Who the hell cares though?

It matters more with TOV because most of the game is with cut scenes with voices. In SO4 a lot of the game is spent in battles or exploring, so you only really hear the voice acting every now and then.

And for some reason, I like the voice acting in SO4 more than in TOV. TOV had this overly done acting, like it was an infomercial or something. The emphasis and tones are overly done and sound really exaggerated, like an actor fresh out of acting class that's trying TOO hard to act. "Well that's not going to get you anywhere now is it?" just put emphasis on the italicized to understand. And say it slowly too, as to not miss punctuation or pause cues.

If I had a PS3 the first game I'd go out and buy is Valkyria Chronicles. Unfortunatly, it's the only game I'd buy.

Same here. It's on my to-get list: A PS3, that is. I'm waiting for the April price drop. $300 is the sweet spot for me to get a PS3. I know a lot of people make the Blu-Ray storage size argument, but to be honest, I paid a little over $200 for my Xbox 360 with the 60gb hard drive, wireless controller. I don't really care for Blu-Ray as I don't see the need in spending $25 a disk to get a movie. Sure there's deals, but maybe if a monthly system like GameFly with movies comes out that's really priced hot and has Blu-Ray deals as part of the rental system, then maybe I'll get Blu-Ray movies to watch. The thing is, I wouldn't feel that great watching Blu-Ray without surround sound and my dated surround sound system favors DTS standard. I know Blu-Rays also have 5.1 standard tracks, but I'd feel more like I'm watching HD if I had HD audio.

All that and I need a few more "must have" PS3 titles, like Gran Turismo 5, Final Fantasy XIII (Really on the fence with this one), a Metal Gear Solid you can play. On 360 I have 7 games I REALLY need to have and 3 more on the list to get and 2 more I'm waiting for. On PS3, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 and Valkyrie Profiles are all I really want.

DQT

03-16-2009, 01:10 AM

I remember that, but I still think Suikoden II on DS is a no brainer.

Honestly I kinda figured you'd probably already knew that. I completely agree. It should be rereleased on either portable.

willardhaven

03-16-2009, 01:16 AM

It blows my mind to see a Star Ocean fan who doesn't love Tales... to each his own.

JEKKI

03-16-2009, 03:19 AM

dang u kno what the battle music in Grandia II sounds exactly like??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtSOrAISRQ

totally RPG battle music...

heavyd853

03-16-2009, 03:24 AM

that should be the battle music for one of the barkely games!

DQT

03-16-2009, 03:33 AM

I looked it up. Sorry, but I'm too dumb to embed a youtube link. He's right.

kainzero

03-16-2009, 03:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3olU4ErkquM

HAHAHA i seriously loled

Rodimus

03-16-2009, 04:31 AM

Listening to the music made me remember how much Grandia II rocks. The Grandia series has one of the best turn-based battle systems. Too bad the series never recovered after Grandia Xtreme.

MSI Magus

03-16-2009, 01:43 PM

What do you guys think of Valkyria Chronicles getting/being rare? I have seen several people say they bought it or suggest others buy it even if they dont own a PS3 because its shipment was so low and its getting rare.

willardhaven

03-16-2009, 01:55 PM

I am pretty sure it underperformed, so it could be rare. Does Sega overprint games like this?

MSI Magus

03-16-2009, 01:57 PM

I am pretty sure it underperformed, so it could be rare. Does Sega overprint games like this?

Well I bet this is the case. I bet it is rare but the question is how rare? Is it going to be like 99% of rare games the past 2 gens where at best it maintains value, or could we see a new Suikoden 2/Valkyrie Profile finally? My guess is the former.

willardhaven

03-16-2009, 02:03 PM

MSI Magus

03-16-2009, 02:09 PM

Well buying games to invest in is never great plan. In the NES, SNES and even PS1 days games were a lot less popular, so people missed the classics. These days it's a lot harder to tell what will appreciate in value. Plus you would have to keep it sealed, and who wants to do that?

I think its less about wanting to buy to invest(thats what my IRA is for)its more about not getting stuck later paying $130 for a game just to play it! Dont get me wrong even if most people here think its going to be rare I am not going to run out and buy it, that practice ended in the PS2 days after game after game saw re release or at best held its value. Now days even if you end up buying in at the right time and get 1 or 2 games for $40ish before they spike to $80 its not worth the other 6 games you guessed wrong on and watched as they fell to $20.

willardhaven

03-16-2009, 02:12 PM

Yeah, good call... Tales of Vesperia SE was one game I pulled the trigger on for $65 because I don't see it going anywhere but up.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-16-2009, 02:31 PM

How is this new suikoden gamez?

willardhaven

03-16-2009, 02:48 PM

I said it in another thread, it seems like a poor man's FF. The only think "Suikdoen" about it is the number of characters.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-16-2009, 02:56 PM

Rodimus

03-16-2009, 05:22 PM

Nintendo Power's gave Tierkries it a 7/10. Which is funny cause NP was hyping the hell out of it several months back. I wouldn't call it a poor man's FFIII cause I hated that game. IMHO this is better.

It's a good RPG. But if you're a Suikoden fan you might be disappointed with them throwing out alot of elements traditionally found in a Suikoden game. For example: no runes, returning characters, weapon forging, one-on-one battles, big epic battles, & 6 member parties are reduced to only 4.

danh920

03-17-2009, 02:40 PM

played each of these for about 45 min and I really dont know what to play thru 1st

tales of vesperia or Star Ocean the last hope?

depascal22

03-17-2009, 04:31 PM

Played through the first couple levels of Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings and I don't think I have any desire to keep playing. It was cool until the battles got too big for the screen. Having so little control over 10+ characters on the bottom DS screen = bad game.

willardhaven

03-17-2009, 10:12 PM

played each of these for about 45 min and I really dont know what to play thru 1st

tales of vesperia or Star Ocean the last hope?

While I think Star Ocean 3 is just as good as Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Vesperia looks much better than Star Ocean 4.

Rei no Otaku

03-19-2009, 01:36 AM

I'm enjoying SO4 a lot more than I thought I would. I'm quite surprised considering I never really liked the series.

meliss242

03-19-2009, 11:09 PM

So, I started playing Star Ocean 3 yesterday. Is it really supposed to be this boring? I might have to drop it because it just isn't as enjoyable as I was lead to believe it would be. I'm only about 2.5 hrs into it (in the Norton dungeon having to find some 3 digit number or some silly fetch-shit) so maybe I need to progress a little - but I still don't see what is even so great about the battle system. I'd much prefer the traditional turn-based scheme over this.

Rei no Otaku

03-20-2009, 06:34 AM

SO3 was a terrible game. You're not wrong in thinking so.

meliss242

03-20-2009, 04:53 PM

So true. I'm done with the game now - 5 or so hours in and bored stiff.

Since playing Ys VI on the ps2 no other modern RPG has measured up to its greatness. Maybe I need to give Suikoden V a chance as number III was pretty sweet, but no others catch my attention right now.

Rei no Otaku

03-20-2009, 05:10 PM

Suikoden 5 is great. It started off a bit slow, but when it gets going it's hard to put the game down.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-20-2009, 05:40 PM

I need to play a suikoden game sometime.

willardhaven

03-20-2009, 05:43 PM

I really don't like Suikoden, I'm not sure why though.

Rei no Otaku

03-20-2009, 05:44 PM

All the Suikodens are good except for 4. So might as well start with the first one which is easily available on the PSN.

pete5883

03-20-2009, 08:11 PM

:puke: @ Suikoden series outside of 3. If you ask me: play 1, 3, and then quit.

willardhaven

03-20-2009, 08:17 PM

That's funny, because I quit after trying to play 1 and 3.

depascal22

03-20-2009, 10:36 PM

I hated Suikoden III. Then again, I'm not into fighting little trees but that's for another time.

Willard, what didn't you like about Tales of Symphonia that makes you put it on par with Star Ocean 3?

willardhaven

03-20-2009, 10:46 PM

I like it, I like SO3 too though. I haven't finished them yet though.

ChibiJosh

03-20-2009, 11:25 PM

Started Suikoden T today. Got about 2 hours into it. It seems all right, but the voice acting makes me want to kill myself. Is the main character's VA the same person who did the Speed Racer cartoon so many years ago? Jesus, he talks so fast.

Rodimus

03-21-2009, 06:18 PM

I'm sure it's no secret but I love the Suikoden series. What I like the most is that it's not your typical JRPGs with a cliched story. I like the political aspect and the connecting storylines also.

Also just got Suikoden T a few days ago. I like it, but the v/o's are really really fast. I'm gonna take a guess and say it's for storage purposes.

MSI Magus

03-21-2009, 06:26 PM

How can someone say play Suikoden 1 and 3 then quit....seriously 2 and 5 are by far the best in the series.

suko_32

03-21-2009, 06:42 PM

I loved Suikoden III back when it came out, but I can't stand the battle system now :-(

However, the story in III I did and still like.

Chibi_Kaji

03-21-2009, 06:48 PM

I've been thinking about getting Suikoden off of PSN. But my Backlog is just too full at the moment.

What do you guys who have play SO4 think of the game? The reviews of SO4 are pretty mixed. I've heard there is a SO3 like plot twist... which kind off makes me want it less. But I still might pick it up after a take care of a few game from my backlog.

ChibiJosh

03-21-2009, 07:40 PM

Suikoden is probably my favorite RPG series ever. The large scale army feeling is just fantastic. Plus having returning characters in the games is always a great thing to see.

I miss the runes in Suikoden T, but I don't think they'll ever make a rune as cool as Suikoden 1.

I loved Suikoden III back when it came out, but I can't stand the battle system now :-(

However, the story in III I did and still like.

What was wrong with the battle system? It was pretty much the same as any turn based RPG, wasn't it?

One thing I liked about Suikoden 3 were the mounts, but was always sad that it took up 2 party spaces.

EXStrike

03-21-2009, 07:42 PM

What do you guys who have play SO4 think of the game? The reviews of SO4 are pretty mixed. I've heard there is a SO3 like plot twist... which kind off makes me want it less. But I still might pick it up after a take care of a few game from my backlog.

I really like SO4. The story may be a bit cookie-cutter, but I still find it a fun game to play.

I also really like the Star Ocean games.

depascal22

03-21-2009, 07:50 PM

Suikoden III felt different because you had three sets of two guys. At the same time, you only gave one command to two people. I never found a configuration that I liked and my enjoyment of the game suffered because of it. That and those damn hollies.

FloodsAreUponUS

03-21-2009, 07:50 PM

depascal22

03-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Poor2More

03-21-2009, 08:00 PM

I just beat "From the Abyss" on DS, pretty fun dungeon crawler, very easy though

Now I have a choice of what game to start next

Suikoden T DS
Ys Book 1 & 2 DS
Izuna DS
Dragon Quest V
Chrono Trigger DS (RPG that got me into the genre many years ago on the SNES)

Rodimus

03-21-2009, 10:52 PM

I also never liked Lulu as a character. I'm sure her tits helped boost her popularity but the goth kids musta loved her too.

Chibi_Kaji

03-22-2009, 12:08 AM

I liked Lulu in FFX. I always found her dress interesting? not really sure what to say about it. Anyway she was one of the few characters that never got on my nerves. Of course this was before X-2.....

pete5883

03-22-2009, 01:47 AM

I'm sure it's no secret but I love the Suikoden series. What I like the most is that it's not your typical JRPGs with a cliched story.
I dunno, to me it just felt like a cliche'd war story every time, except for III where they actually had a good/interesting reason for war. Then in every game since they went back to the boring reasons.
Sorry to get off Suikoden but do you guys think Lulu (Final Fantasy X) would be such a popular character if she hadn't had her tits spilling out of that black dress? I was just thinking there's nothing really that great about her. Flat monotone voice, way too dark mascara and lipstick, an unusually thick and furry dress compared to everyone else's attire, and really big tits....
You know, you may be on to something.

Magus8472

03-22-2009, 01:59 AM

Sorry to get off Suikoden but do you guys think Lulu (Final Fantasy X) would be such a popular character if she hadn't had her tits spilling out of that black dress? I was just thinking there's nothing really that great about her. Flat monotone voice, way too dark mascara and lipstick, an unusually thick and furry dress compared to everyone else's attire, and really big tits....

You're probably just htting on the general lack of variety in female Final Fantasy characters. Each FF since 5, including X-2, has had three female characters embodying three distinct archetypes: one is overly serious and committed to a cause, one is detatched and moody, and one is spunky. Illustrative case-in-point: remember who replaces Lulu in X-2?

Given that, it's hard to base preference on anything other than design. And tits generally pay dividends.

heavyd853

03-22-2009, 03:02 AM

I just beat FFXII for the first time haha, I was at the last place for like 2 years and I just decided to pick it up and finish it.

I was satisfied with the ending, although it wasn't unexpected in the slightest.

It was better than the mindrape that was VIII's ending at least.

pete5883

03-22-2009, 10:03 AM

How come they don't make music like One Winged Angel anymore?

Rodimus

03-22-2009, 12:25 PM

I dunno, to me it just felt like a cliche'd war story every time, except for III where they actually had a good/interesting reason for war. Then in every game since they went back to the boring reasons.

You're the kinda guy that likes saving the world from ultimate evil, right? (I find that boring) Suikoden's story makes sense, everything connects and it's easy to understand. JRPGs often have pretentious storylines that end up making little sense. Yes, Suikoden revolves around war, but it's a simple concept which makes it different. Most often there is no "good" or "evil", it's subjective and for a JRPG it's surprisingly more adult than most.

Suikoden III was the only one that had the cliched "destroy the world for the greater good" plot we've all seen before. Sure saving the world is an excellent reason to fight, but should JRPGs be limited to it?

meliss242

03-22-2009, 03:48 PM

Amongst you unwavering RPG devotees, what'd you think of the Baten Kaitos games? I'm considering wrapping up my GCN by playing all the games left that I've had in the back of my mind since like forever (Metroid Prime, Twilight Princess, Tales of Symphonia, F-Zero GX) and contemplating whether or not Baten Kaitos should appear as well. I did play the first hour of the first BK game, but it was at a time when I had grown despondent with modern RPGs and might've prematurely sold it. I've since made it my mission by June '09 to finish all the GCN games that I've been meaning to play before moving back onto my ps2 backlog of unpurchased games so as to allow a greater degree of concentration.

Oh yeah...I'm skipping this current generation of consoles, so I still have probably a good 4-5 years left with the ps2. haha

pete5883

03-22-2009, 08:11 PM

You're the kinda guy that likes saving the world from ultimate evil, right?
Eh, I guess. I'm kind of sick of it by now, but I thought it was done really well in S3, whereas in most RPGs it isn't. Plus the fact that the previously wussy-looking Luc was behind it, made it a lot more interesting for me. I guess I probably just don't like war stories much.

Amongst you unwavering RPG devotees, what'd you think of the Baten Kaitos games? I'm considering wrapping up my GCN by playing all the games left that I've had in the back of my mind since like forever (Metroid Prime, Twilight Princess, Tales of Symphonia, F-Zero GX) and contemplating whether or not Baten Kaitos should appear as well. I did play the first hour of the first BK game, but it was at a time when I had grown despondent with modern RPGs and might've prematurely sold it. I've since made it my mission by June '09 to finish all the GCN games that I've been meaning to play before moving back onto my ps2 backlog of unpurchased games so as to allow a greater degree of concentration.

The battle system was definitely different, and I found it fun enough to be a worthwhile playthrough. The battles are long, the story is something you've seen before (for the most part,) and all the dialogue in the game sounds like it's coming from the other end of a tube, but if you can get over these, I say go for it.

Rodimus

03-22-2009, 09:24 PM

Eh, I guess. I'm kind of sick of it by now, but I thought it was done really well in S3, whereas in most RPGs it isn't. Plus the fact that the previously wussy-looking Luc was behind it, made it a lot more interesting for me. I guess I probably just don't like war stories much.

I understand and I agree, it was well done and I certiantly don't hate it because it wasn't your typical Suikoden story. I liked all the characters both heroes & villians (Geddoe & Yuber). And since it's the most recent story timeline-wise I consider the story more important to the series than S4 or S5.

pete5883

03-23-2009, 09:55 AM

I understand and I agree, it was well done and I certiantly don't hate it because it wasn't your typical Suikoden story. I liked all the characters both heroes & villians (Geddoe & Yuber). And since it's the most recent story timeline-wise I consider the story more important to the series than S4 or S5.
And that reminds me, the main characters in everything but S3 are lame - they never talk, yet all the other characters think the MC is a great guy and should lead the army. Why?? He has no discernible personality.

S3, the 3 characters actually had personality, and one could see how they would make a good leader. Well, not really Geddoe.

kainzero

03-23-2009, 12:35 PM

willardhaven

03-23-2009, 12:46 PM

She was hot.

depascal22

03-23-2009, 05:43 PM

^ My point.

willardhaven

03-23-2009, 08:14 PM

What is your point exactly? She is a well-designed, hot goth chick character. What is the problem with that?

Jest

03-23-2009, 08:43 PM

id hit it

depascal22

03-24-2009, 02:06 AM

Sorry willard. I guess goth chicks just aren't my thing. I try to stay away from the morbidly depressed. I keed. I keed.

No real point to be made. Just introducing conversation that hasn't been brought up before.

heavyd853

03-24-2009, 02:14 AM

How come they don't make music like One Winged Angel anymore?

I thought FFXII had one of the best soundtracks of any of them, I'd put it in the top two or so.

I think one winged angel is an anomaly because it transcended its source material by quite a bit.

Rei no Otaku

03-24-2009, 02:22 AM

How come they don't make music like One Winged Angel anymore?
Because the song was never that good in the first place.

Chibi_Kaji

03-24-2009, 07:52 AM

pete5883

03-24-2009, 09:26 AM

Because the song was never that good in the first place.
In that case your answer should've been "For similar quality, maybe you should check out the works of Masashi Hamauzu."

depascal22

03-25-2009, 08:27 AM

Someone needed to be depressed to make up for the rest of the characters.

Auron was pretty damn close. He wasn't technically depressed but it wasn't like he was the life of the party.

famousj6

03-27-2009, 05:20 PM

Auron was pretty damn close. He wasn't technically depressed but it wasn't like he was the life of the party.

Being dead kinda helps with that :)

Poor2More

03-29-2009, 12:11 PM

I just just put in about 6 hours on Soma Bringer, this is the closest thing on the DS to diablo, this game is great. Now that it is translated to English, makes it alot easier to enjoy the story.

I finally get my copy of "Demons Soul" (Asian Version, Full English) on PS3 tomorrow, I cant wait : )

willardhaven

03-29-2009, 04:36 PM

Region free is pretty cool on the PS3. I just started Tales of Vesperia and it's great, I can't think of any downside other than interminable cut scenes.

Rodimus

03-29-2009, 05:50 PM

My biggest complaint about ToV was Estelle. I sweer their were moments when I thought Estelle was mentally retarded, I couldn't stand her.

Still, ToV had one of the coolest/shocking scenes in JRPG history. When Yuri kills that evil regent guy in cold blood. The whole time I was thinking, "He's not gonna do it, he wont kill him, he'll pussy out like they all do." Then he does it and the most awesome thing about it is he never laments about what he did. After this moment I thought he was one of the coolest main characters ever.

willardhaven

03-29-2009, 05:54 PM

Yeah she is a pain, plus she is an eyesore (white and pink?). I wish they had just recycled Tear's design from Tales of the Abyss.

Rei no Otaku

03-29-2009, 07:24 PM

JEKKI

03-29-2009, 09:24 PM

so yah... that Valkyrie Profile DS... it's pretty damn awesome.

gameplay wise itself... not really the best thing out there. It's standard SRPG style, each side takes turns, and combat itself is similar to other VP games where each dood is assigned to a button and u do combos n shyt.

At times it can be very unbalanced since you only have 4 doods and it's real easy to get ganged up on and lose a full health character in one move... but likewise u can also do the same thing.

Furthermore, positioning is important. Strategic use of proper positioning can allow characters to attack multiple times in a single turn.

other than that, the game's biggest strength is in its story and branching plot. Each chapter is different depending on your decision.

And the chapters themselves are like in the first VP. The game introduce new characters, you see their story unfold thruout the chapter, then at the end of the chapter you keep them as allies. I kno a lot of ppl disliked VP2 since they overlooked this aspect, thankfully VPDS brings it back.

so yah... since I'm a fan of VP and enjoy its lore and stuff I definitely enjoy the game. If you like VP then check this game out.

willardhaven

03-29-2009, 09:46 PM

I only have VP 2 and it's awesome. If the DS version didn't have the strategy BS I would want it.

Rodimus

03-29-2009, 11:35 PM

Yeah, Yuri was pretty badass. I actually didn't mind Estelle that much. Though after playing ToS2, I think I can handle anyone compared to Emil...

I'll give ya that, Emil was the worst. I comend you for playing through that game, I couldn't do it. But does Emil ever stop acting like a puss?

Rei no Otaku

03-30-2009, 12:05 AM

No, he never gets any better.

willardhaven

03-30-2009, 01:34 AM

The next flagship Tales game is supposed to be on Wii... I'd much rather it be on 360 or PS3. If they're going for the larger install base, why not stick with the PS2?

Jest

03-30-2009, 01:48 AM

Do stores besides GameStop even have shelfspace for PS2 games anymore? Last time I was at a store (Wal-Mart) they were consolidating 3 sections of PS1 games into one. Underneath they were storing Nintendo peripherals, so more like 3/4 of a section. The other two they were changing to Wii and DS.

Back to RPGs... I still haven't played ToV, ES, Dark Cloud 2, and most of VC, FFXI, P3+FES, and Fable II. Need time for games. :( After school ends at the end of April I will be working 50 hrs a week or more... How do you guys do it?

LostRoad

03-30-2009, 06:31 PM

No, he never gets any better.

He does get better, but its at the very end of the game and only for 10 min, Emil was a pain in the ass, but the fan fair that was offered made me look past him.

Chibi_Kaji

03-30-2009, 07:08 PM

The next flagship Tales game is supposed to be on Wii... I'd much rather it be on 360 or PS3. If they're going for the larger install base, why not stick with the PS2?
I don't mind as long as it's better then TOS 2.... I can't believe I wasted money on that crap. Not even the idea of seeing Sheena again could make me play it past the first boss.

willardhaven

03-30-2009, 07:45 PM

I don't mind it being on a weaker console, but will it sell on the Wii? I think PS2 is more logical for the large userbase JRPG. The Wii decision just confuses me.

Rei no Otaku

03-31-2009, 12:52 AM

I don't mind as long as it's better then TOS 2.... I can't believe I wasted money on that crap. Not even the idea of seeing Sheena again could make me play it past the first boss.
Can't say we didn't warn you.

depascal22

03-31-2009, 10:02 AM

I don't mind it being on a weaker console, but will it sell on the Wii? I think PS2 is more logical for the large userbase JRPG. The Wii decision just confuses me.

Maybe Sony is shutting down the PS2 around the time it would come out? If that's the case, the 360 should be the way to go considering their results. Did TOS2 sell more than TOV?

On another note, I just started Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. It's my first SMT/Persona game since Persona 2. I really like the art style, the battle system, and the story so far. I'm doing some grinding at the beginning because I've heard the game is super hard.

willardhaven

03-31-2009, 10:37 PM

Yeah, aside from it being a little tough, Nocturne is one of the best games on PS2. As for Tales, I wish the next game was on 360, as I bought one to play Vesperia. I am not sure what the numbers are for ToV vs. ToS2, I'll check the sales thread.

Rodimus

03-31-2009, 11:35 PM

Hope you enjoy Nocturne. It has a nice challenge. Just make sure to fuse a nice variety of demons. Having the right skill could make all the difference in battle.

depascal22

04-01-2009, 11:02 AM

I just hit the Cathedral of Shadows in Shibuya. I got the quick explanation of fusing and it's a good thing there's a save point just next door. It'll really allow me to fuse away with the reset button there for any strange mutations.

Does anyone have the guide for trade? I checked the FAQ and I realized I already missed something. It wasn't a biggie but there's nothing worse than getting to the end of a 100 hour journey missing some of the best weapons/gear/items/demons/etc.

JEKKI

04-02-2009, 11:39 PM

omg I started playing a new game today...

Ys Book I & II

becoz, I been wanting to play it for a while... and the player one podcast is goind a game club on it... and I finally reached the recent episode of retronauts where they talk about Falcom.

anyway... so far the game is #@$%in awesome~!!!

it's pretty much everything I like about games, hella reminding me of back in the days reading EGM and Gamepro and dreaming about all these games u always wanted to play but never could coz u were only 9 years old and had to be thankful for the little that u had.

and the music is freakin insane!!! It's sooooo good!!

I'm not that far in the game tho... I spent a bit of time walking into enemies til they die so I had enough cash to buy equipment, then the lady told me to go to the next town.

CriscoKidd

04-02-2009, 11:47 PM

I don't mind it being on a weaker console, but will it sell on the Wii? I think PS2 is more logical for the large userbase JRPG. The Wii decision just confuses me.

What I don't understand is why don't they make it for PS2 and just port it to the wii. Then they could have 2 mega-huge user bases.

If it's good enough I might pick up a wii, but probly not. There just isn't that many games for the wii that I like and the price tag is too high for what you get(imo).

guynextshore

04-08-2009, 04:10 AM

Hmm let's pick this thread up :).

I finally started Lost Odyssey. Just hit the 2nd disk & loving it so far!
Interestingly enough the first few bosses proved quite a challenge especially the 2nd one - normal by any chance?

Everything is great, except the load times....

62t

04-08-2009, 04:38 AM

I don't mind it being on a weaker console, but will it sell on the Wii? I think PS2 is more logical for the large userbase JRPG. The Wii decision just confuses me.

The Wii is currently the best selling console right now, and those new owners are going to be looking for new games.

willardhaven

04-08-2009, 02:24 PM

The Wii is currently the best selling console right now, and those new owners are going to be looking for new games.

I understand that, but there are less installed units than the PS2, plus I don't know if Wii owners are Tales buyers. PS2 seems to be the best bet for niche JRPGs. I hope it does well, because I want more Tales in the U.S.

SuxoR

04-08-2009, 02:30 PM

What are the great RPGs for Wii at the moment?

If any :P

willardhaven

04-08-2009, 02:31 PM

Uh, Tales looks ok, although I hear otherwise.

The Crotch

04-08-2009, 02:54 PM

What are the great RPGs for Wii at the moment?

If any :P
Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Your Mother Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem.

willardhaven

04-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Your Mother Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem Fire Emblem.

Ouch.

62t

04-08-2009, 03:44 PM

I understand that, but there are less installed units than the PS2, plus I don't know if Wii owners are Tales buyers. PS2 seems to be the best bet for niche JRPGs. I hope it does well, because I want more Tales in the U.S.

Many publisher are moving their games to wii, such as Capcom with Monster Hunter and SE with Dragon quest. The Tales series is not a niche series in Japan, and actually help sold console when Vesperia was released on Xbox 360. As for the US the tales games done well on Wii and Gamecube so I would say the chance of new Tales games on Wii getting a US release is actually higher.

JEKKI

04-08-2009, 04:36 PM

What are the great RPGs for Wii at the moment?

If any :PArc Rise Fantasia.

that game is gonna be everything good that a JRPG is.

dejeckt

04-08-2009, 04:49 PM

willardhaven

04-08-2009, 05:49 PM

Have you guys heard of End of Eternity (PS3, Xbox 360)?
http://kotaku.com/5202959/this-is-the-new-multi+platform-tri+ace-rpg
I never really liked any of Tri-Ace's games (besides Star Ocean Second Story on psx...even with its mishaps in translation), but this particular game looks interesting.

I think everyone is aware of this by now, Valkyria Chronicles DLC coming out tomorrow at $5.00 a piece.

Could I hear anyone's input on Persona 3? I'm interested in the whole Persona system... but the dating sim and random dungeons seems questionable.

I think you should try Valkyrie Profile 2 for PS2, it's a great Tri-Ace game. End of Eternity looks better than SO 4 and IU, but I have not played either of those yet.

Persona 3 is an excellent game, it's true you must socialize to unlock stronger monsters but the meat of the game is in the dungeon/fusion system. You control characters whose magic attacks are based on monsters you find and fuse. The dungeon is huge, randomly generated and repetitive, but there are no random encounters. You sneak up on enemies and hit them to start battle, or vice versa. The story is about monsters and high schoolers for the most part, but you can always skip that if you hate it.

dejeckt

04-08-2009, 06:09 PM

I think you should try Valkyrie Profile 2 for PS2, it's a great Tri-Ace game. End of Eternity looks better than SO 4 and IU, but I have not played either of those yet.

Persona 3 is an excellent game, it's true you must socialize to unlock stronger monsters but the meat of the game is in the dungeon/fusion system. You control characters whose magic attacks are based on monsters you find and fuse. The dungeon is huge, randomly generated and repetitive, but there are no random encounters. You sneak up on enemies and hit them to start battle, or vice versa. The story is about monsters and high schoolers for the most part, but you can always skip that if you hate it.

Thanks for the info, I'll look into Valkyrie Profile 2 and I guess I'll go ahead and buy persona three (I like Random Generated dungeons like in Diablo 2 where it remains interesting, but in Time Stalkers its absolutely dull).

depascal22

04-08-2009, 09:46 PM

You might as well go with Persona 3 FES if you're going to pick it up. Soundtracks and art books are great but they can't beat extra game content.

Zenjiro

04-08-2009, 11:12 PM

Tales of Vesperia is garbage

willardhaven

04-08-2009, 11:22 PM

Tales of Vesperia is garbage

Welcome to the thread, great post.:whee:

dejeckt

04-09-2009, 05:50 AM

Well, I ordered Persona 3 FES along with Ultimate Muscle: Legends vs Newcomers (lol, it looks awesome). Ima play Persona 3 FES with low expectations (and hopefully it will beat those expectations senseless).

If this ends up being good I might look into purchasing SMT: Devil Summoner 2
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73846
(has a nifty preorder bonus...hopefully I'll get to play a good portion of persona 3 before 5/12)
Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4bIeJZoeCI
Reminds me of yakuza mixed with demonic pokemons.

Side note, been playing FFXII for the first time (being reserved about it due to FFX...imo FFX is prolly one of the worst of the series [I did put in 80 hours into it though]) and its great! Now I'm getting towards the end...whens the best point in the game to go for the extras (such as monster hunts, tournesol, etc)? I just beat Giruvegan part

heavyd853

04-09-2009, 06:14 AM

LostRoad

04-09-2009, 06:33 AM

Well, I ordered Persona 3 FES along with Ultimate Muscle: Legends vs Newcomers (lol, it looks awesome). Ima play Persona 3 FES with low expectations (and hopefully it will beat those expectations senseless).

If this ends up being good I might look into purchasing SMT: Devil Summoner 2
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73846
(has a nifty preorder bonus...hopefully I'll get to play a good portion of persona 3 before 5/12)
Trailer

Heh, I am going to wait and see on DS:2. I had to force myself to beat the last one, game was kinda shit imo. Besides, SM games are no longer made in small print runs so I am sure I will be able to get it for $15-20 a little bit after its out. On a side note, Persona 3 was a ton of fun, never bothered picking up FES for the added content, but if you like JRPGs made for depth you should enjoy it.

dejeckt

04-09-2009, 06:51 AM

I did all the extra stuff (espers, hunts weapons etc) just before the very end of the game, when you're about to depart for the Bahamut.

Some of the extra stuff is really rough though, I couldn't even scratch the end hunts and I was in the 60's

Thanks for info, yea the extras seems to be ridiculous compared to other FF (how are you suppose to know that you weren't suppose to open some of the chests in the beginning to get the best weapon? that was pretty cheap).

Heh, I am going to wait and see on DS:2. I had to force myself to beat the last one, game was kinda shit imo. Besides, SM games are no longer made in small print runs so I am sure I will be able to get it for $15-20 a little bit after its out. On a side note, Persona 3 was a ton of fun, never bothered picking up FES for the added content, but if you like JRPGs made for depth you should enjoy it.

Good to know that SMT aren't made in small print runs (but that plushie seems like a good collectible). Thats what I've been hearing about SMT: DS, I heard initially its enjoyable but gets repetitive fast.

Chibi_Kaji

04-09-2009, 03:20 PM

I recall hearing that SMT: DS2 might be seeing a limited print run since the first game sold pretty poorly.

depascal22

04-09-2009, 04:37 PM

Didn't the first Devil Summoner have a smaller print run? You could still find that cheap a couple months after release.

bvharris

04-09-2009, 05:57 PM

Side note, been playing FFXII for the first time (being reserved about it due to FFX...imo FFX is prolly one of the worst of the series [I did put in 80 hours into it though]) and its great! Now I'm getting towards the end...whens the best point in the game to go for the extras (such as monster hunts, tournesol, etc)? I just beat Giruvegan part

I take it you never played FFVIII (that's assuming we're only counting main series titles).

That said, I agree that FFXII was infinitely better than X, I'd probably rank it in the series only behind VI, IV, and (probably) VII.

StarKnightX

04-09-2009, 06:33 PM

I take it you never played FFVIII (that's assuming we're only counting main series titles).

That said, I agree that FFXII was infinitely better than X, I'd probably rank it in the series only behind VI, IV, and (probably) VII.

FFVIII takes too much flak. I'd say VIII is better than VII. Can't comment on X or XII though since I've never played/beaten them (played X , never finished , never played XII).

dejeckt

04-09-2009, 07:15 PM

I take it you never played FFVIII (that's assuming we're only counting main series titles).

That said, I agree that FFXII was infinitely better than X, I'd probably rank it in the series only behind VI, IV, and (probably) VII.

I actually did play 8, overall I liked 8 better than FFX. I felt that FFX, although extremely polished, felt disjointed and linear (barely could you really get a sense of exploration until the Calm Lands). I gotta try IV and 6 was awesome (truly the one of the first games that captured my undivided attention).

Chibi_Kaji

04-09-2009, 07:34 PM

Didn't the first Devil Summoner have a smaller print run? You could still find that cheap a couple months after release.
Yeah it did. But I was able to find new copies for a good six months after it was released.

dejeckt

04-10-2009, 12:56 AM

So what RPGs CAGers playing right now? Any hidden RPG gem to be found?

willardhaven

04-10-2009, 01:16 AM

I've been playing ToV daily.

DQT

04-10-2009, 02:41 AM

So what RPGs CAGers playing right now? Any hidden RPG gem to be found?

Welcome to CAG. FYI, the er is already captured in the acronym CAG.

I've been play The World Ends With You. Not very hidden. Then again, few RPGs these days are.

dejeckt

04-10-2009, 02:56 AM

Welcome to CAG. FYI, the er is already captured in the acronym CAG.

I've been play The World Ends With You. Not very hidden. Then again, few RPGs these days are.

Oo, I didn't realize I was saying cheapassgamerer.
Thats one game I wanted to try...too bad I don't own a DS

I've been playing ToV daily.
This is a game Ima buy when it comes to the PS3 (don't have 360); I always did like the Tales series (but at points it does feel very shallow).

On a side note...what ever happened to Last Remnant for the PS3 (has it been canceled). Not greatest of games I heard...but I still want to play

dejeckt

04-10-2009, 04:12 AM

A little more info on End of Eternity (game made by tri-Ace in collaboration with Sega)

Representing tri-Ace's first project with any company other than Square Enix, End of Eternity looks to be a futuristic gun battle RPG in the vein of Parasite Eve (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=2017258). The game will take place entirely in a colossal machine-city called Burzel, whose millions of citizens subscribe to an (as yet unnamed) monotheistic religion. Director Takayuki Suguro points out that the player will never venture outside of Burzel in End of Eternity; what, if anything, exists beyond its borders is a mystery.
The Famitsu article reveals three characters: Vashyron, a 26 year old former soldier working for a private military company, 17 year old Zephyr, a boy scouted by Vashyron to work for his PMC, and a 19 year old girl known only as Experiment 20 -- an ominous moniker, as she's fated to die on her 20th birthday. Little more biographical info is found in the article, though the startling snippet of dialogue provided for hero Zephyr is worth noting: "The fact that I live is proof there is no God". Deep.
article ripped shamelessly from http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173634 (Nick Des Barres, 4/8/09)

Also, their website (which was suppose to 'unveil' this new game) is gonna be up in about 50 minutes. Most likely have a teaser trailer of some sort.
http://eoe.sega.jp/ (http://www.newrpg.jp/)

JEKKI

04-10-2009, 04:37 AM

depascal22

04-10-2009, 08:24 AM

I'm about halfway through SMT: Nocturne. Awesome, awesome game. Lost Odyssey is next.

pete5883

04-10-2009, 09:03 AM

Bout to start Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha.

dejeckt

04-10-2009, 06:05 PM

whoo~!!! I beat the first half of Ys I + II... aka Ys I.

omg... so. good.

the only bad part is the final dungeon is a beeyatch... it's longer than the rest of the game and u gotta backtrack it like a muhfukka.
I'm assuming you have the Wii version (is this any different from the PC version?). How is the gameplay, similar to zelda? Always wanted to play it...just never got around to play it :/

I'm about halfway through SMT: Nocturne. Awesome, awesome game. Lost Odyssey is next.
That game looks moody, how much is the going rate for that game used (might think about picking it up if Persona 3 is fun).

Bout to start Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha.
If you like that then you should consider to pick up a pre order of SMT: DS2 (you get a plushie at gamestop)

JEKKI

04-10-2009, 08:24 PM

yeay Wii virtua console version.

the only Zelda's I ever played are the gameboy ones and LTTP... Ys is nothing like Zelda.

like... it's an action rpg but u do not have an attack button. You attack by walking into enemies... it's silly coz at high enough levels enemies die when u jus touch them.

willardhaven

04-10-2009, 08:32 PM

Link to the Past is so good. It's not an RPG at all, but it's so good.

suko_32

04-10-2009, 09:07 PM

Later Ys games you have an attack button.

willardhaven

04-10-2009, 09:22 PM

Y's III.

dejeckt

04-10-2009, 09:25 PM

hmmz, gotta try that Ys
Do they sell the pc version somewhere still (I heard there is a remake of 1 and 2 for the pc? or am I mistaken)

suko_32

04-10-2009, 09:51 PM

There's also a Ys for PS2. If you go for that Ys stay away from the PSP version...is what I've heard because of the load times or something. The PS2 version is fine.

dejeckt

04-11-2009, 12:41 AM

While I was searching for a pc copy of Ys I and II eternal (to purchase) I think I caught a malware. Something called yebokafe and sisayomu; I couldn't stop it from starting up at boot so I just system restored it (I need to buy an antispyware one of these days). I think the PS2 one only has Ys 6 (well one that made it to the states); I couldn't find any copies of that pc version (only various tor*****...).
I always liked owning RPG titles, would've liked to find a copy for this pc (but I think its long gone by now).

Also, are there any significant difference between Ys I + II Eternal, Books or Complete?

pete5883

04-11-2009, 12:44 AM

Hm, looks like I should've skipped Devil Summoner after all.

willardhaven

04-11-2009, 12:50 AM

Hm, looks like I should've skipped Devil Summoner after all.

Because it sucks? Disappointing I know, the idea seemed fun.

dejeckt

04-11-2009, 09:50 PM

Well, I've found the pc version of Ys I and II (wonder why it took me awhile)
http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/2892
Is himeyashop reliable? Anywhere where I could get it cheaper?

suko_32

04-11-2009, 09:58 PM

Yeah, that place is reliable. A lot of people who buy Touhou games get it from that place. It's a shmup game FYI.

dejeckt

04-11-2009, 10:13 PM

Well then I gotta wait and see if the price gets any lower (I still have a backlog of games to play, not to mention persona 3 on the way).

Thanks for the info ^^

JEKKI

04-13-2009, 03:29 AM

ahahahahaha~!! omg omg!!

http://kimag.es/share/84662198.png

ahahahaha!!!

other than that... I beat Valkyrie Profile DS.

it's awesome! it makes me wanna go back and finish Rondo of Swords btw, which is a fantastic game but u kinda reached a point where it burnt you out.

Likewise Yggdra Union... these crazy unorthodox SRPGs do that to you I guess...

blueweltall

04-13-2009, 04:43 AM

ahahahahaha~!! omg omg!!

http://kimag.es/share/84662198.png

ahahahaha!!!

WTF! Is that for real?

DQT

04-14-2009, 12:18 AM

Magus8472

04-14-2009, 12:51 AM

ahahahahaha~!! omg omg!!

http://kimag.es/share/84662198.png

ahahahaha!!!

Oh fuck that. Those bastards.

JEKKI

04-14-2009, 02:49 AM

Also I heard Rondo of Swords is really, really hard.it's not that hard. the trick is figuring out the AI and baiting it to come to you as opposed to approaching it yourself.

the problem is... the stage I stopped playing at was when it begins by surrounding you with enemies...

round 1 death for realz.

Chibi_Kaji

04-14-2009, 01:24 PM

Because it sucks? Disappointing I know, the idea seemed fun.
I was actually able to play up till the last dungeon. But I said fuck it when I realized I was going to fight every boss in the game again. But I'm still picking up the 2nd game since I enjoyed the first one enough to get it a chance.

pete5883

04-14-2009, 09:45 PM

Because it sucks? Disappointing I know, the idea seemed fun.
In chapter 5 now, enjoying it a lot more than I did at first. I'm sure I'll be sick of it by the end, but it's not too bad.

willardhaven

04-14-2009, 10:02 PM

I got sick of it in about 1-2 hours. I still pre-ordreed DS 2 for the bonus, and because it is supposedly a much better game.

Rodimus

04-14-2009, 11:16 PM

IMO I thought Devil Summoner was better than a lot of JRPGs I've played in recent years. Gameplay got a little stale near the middle but the fusion system is what hooked me (it always does.) If anything at least the first game can be comended to help pave the way for a hopefully better sequel.

willardhaven

04-14-2009, 11:22 PM

There were random encounters every few steps. I don't tolerate that kind of crap unless the game is amazing. The battles played (as someone once stated) like a really bad Tales knockoff.

Rodimus

04-14-2009, 11:45 PM

Saying it's a knockoff is implying it's trying to be like Tales, and It doesn't even come close. Both are real time JRPGs and that's where the similarities end.

willardhaven

04-14-2009, 11:49 PM

Well the battle system was an attempt at a Tales-style real-time action battle. As much as I like Nocturne a P3/4, I could not stand DS. I called it a knockoff because unlike Tales, the battles were unresponsive and lame. The setting of the game was great though, which is why I have hope for DS2.

dejeckt

04-15-2009, 12:34 AM

Isn't Star Ocean more comparable to Tales, and didn't Star Ocean series start first? I only played Star Ocean series and Tales series so I really couldn't comment on how Devil Summoner compares to Tales.

Speaking of star ocean...here is a proper trailer of End of Eternity
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48018.html
has no gameplay footage, but sets the tone of the JRPG. Honestly, it looks like another mediocre JRPG I will likely play.

Dr Mario Kart

04-15-2009, 12:42 AM

Tales of Phantasia (Super Famicom) 1995
Star Ocean (Super Famicom) 1996

dejeckt

04-15-2009, 12:52 AM

Tales of Phantasia (Super Famicom) 1995
Star Ocean (Super Famicom) 1996

woops, sorry I wasn't sure
I don't even remember Tales of Phantasia...gonna wiki it now ^^

JEKKI

04-15-2009, 03:20 AM

dood End of Eternity looks sweeeeeeet~!!!

mediocre my ass!

heavyd853

04-15-2009, 04:14 AM

Tales of Phantasia was an excellent game.

pete5883

04-15-2009, 09:25 AM

Well, I wouldn't say DS was a 2D Tales ripoff, because in 2D Tales you can only move in a single plane. Star Ocean at least you have a field to run around in.

willardhaven

04-15-2009, 10:14 AM

No I said it was a 3D Tales ripoff, only crappy. BTW Star Ocean's original team shared some members with the Star Ocean team didn't it?

Rei no Otaku

04-15-2009, 03:25 PM

Star Ocean came about because members of the ToP team weren't satisfied with the game.

depascal22

04-15-2009, 04:34 PM

So what were the specific problems that the ToP team had?

pete5883

04-15-2009, 09:27 PM

No I said it was a 3D Tales ripoff, only crappy. BTW Star Ocean's original team shared some members with the Star Ocean team didn't it?
You've typo'd, but yeah, the Tales team left to make Star Ocean IIRC.

dejeckt

04-18-2009, 03:19 AM

Whoever recommended Persona 3 FES I thank yah; Persona 3 FES is great. Prolly one of the few RPGs that I have played recently that is actually some what of a challenge. I'm currently at boss fight against Intrepid Knight (2nd Block of tartarus tower, any tips?); I especially like how this game curves you away from grinding too much.

Lions

04-18-2009, 02:20 PM

Tales of Vesperia > Star Ocean: TLH

willardhaven

04-18-2009, 02:32 PM

You've typo'd, but yeah, the Tales team left to make Star Ocean IIRC.

Haha wow, I totally missed that.

Rei no Otaku

04-19-2009, 01:24 AM

Tales of Vesperia > Star Ocean: TLH
I don't think anyone is going to argue with you.

Lions

04-19-2009, 01:30 AM

I'm impressed with ToV a lot. Wish SO4 was more atmospheric.

JEKKI

04-19-2009, 01:39 AM

this was posted earlier in the PSP forum... but if u havent seen it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CsXT65UuXI

hype 9002 for reals.

also... still playing Ys II... music still kicks ass.

u kno what other game the music reminds me of?? Guardian Heroes... which if u dont kno has incredible music!!

Ys II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcI-A1RFyE

Flak

04-20-2009, 02:34 AM

I'm happily plunking through what will hopefully be my first complete playthrough of Chrono Trigger. If I can curb my spending, I won't get distracted halfway through again.

Rodimus

04-20-2009, 06:53 PM

I'm guessing that's the intro for Persona. A lot better than the orginal one. Finally we can play the Snow Queen Quest.

Still, I hate playing RPGs on portable systems regardless of what game it is. I have Suikoden T for DS and I've barely touched it only because I hate looking at a tiny screen.

LostRoad

04-20-2009, 07:55 PM

Anyone know just how much of the game changes if you go on the Snow Queen story line?

Rodimus

04-20-2009, 08:48 PM

It changes the entire outcome of the game. The Snow Queen Quest is an optional path that leads to a diffrent ending. Instead of chasing after Guido your team instead investigates the Snow Queen rumor. Once you're done with the quest you get the credits and it's game over.

The code for the quest is still intact the American PS1 version but you need a gameshark code to unlock it. And since it's not translated all the text is jiberish.

ChibiJosh

04-20-2009, 09:08 PM

That Persona opening was pretty sweet. I'm starting to think that I need to pick up a PSP someday soon. What are the best RPGs on the PSP? I know there are a lot of ports/remakes.

Rodimus

04-20-2009, 09:39 PM

This is what we missed, watch till 0:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em_EE93YtYc

Krymner

04-20-2009, 10:00 PM

ME: That Persona intro is damn cool! Love the music!

REALITY: Yeah, Too bad you don't have a PSP, Loser. And probably won't for a long, long time.

ME: Maybe if it sells really really bad they'll port it to the PS2?

REALITY: Yeah, and maybe Yvonne Strahovski will come over and play (it?) with you. Quit dreaming and go back to crying in the corner about Crisis Core.

ME: Man, I really hate you, Reality.

pete5883

04-20-2009, 10:06 PM

Mr. Anderson

04-20-2009, 10:38 PM

So this is the RPG thread....

who plays WoW? :D

Rodimus

04-20-2009, 11:08 PM

I dunno, has anyone read up on the Snow Queen quest? I remember reading that you had to go through 8 hours of dungeons with no save points, only resume points. That sounds like the most frustrating experience there is.

Yes, once you start the quest the save points become something like resume points, however I believe there's a method where you can save. If I remember correctly you have to overwrite a save file with a continue file then copy that file to another memory card.... I think
Hopefuly the PSP version fixes this.

willardhaven

04-20-2009, 11:51 PM

So this is the RPG thread....

who plays WoW? :D

People who like to cut themselves.

DQT

04-21-2009, 12:12 AM

That Persona video was damn stylish. I should expect that by now though.

After finishing the World Ends With You I've realized I do like having good J-pop in my RPGs. I think I'd prefer the lyrics to stay in Japanese though. That way they they can get away with writing the most stupidest lyrics possible because I wouldn't understand it.

Krymer, reality is kicking my ass too.

depascal22

04-24-2009, 05:08 PM

That Persona opening was pretty sweet. I'm starting to think that I need to pick up a PSP someday soon. What are the best RPGs on the PSP? I know there are a lot of ports/remakes.

My favorite RPGs on the PSP are:

Jeanne d'Arc
Disgaea
Brave Story New Traveler
Crisis Core

As for RPGs on portables, I'm all for it. I actually prefer it. I don't have a tube TV anymore so RPGs can be murder with the menu burn in. So far, I've only played Eternal Sonata on my living room set and I only played in short bursts.

I ended up giving up on SMT Nocturne. I got lost in the Prison where you go through the Magic Mirror. The FAQs I found were missing vital bits of information and got me super lost. I got tired of wandering around trying to find the right path (while also being right side up or upside down) and getting pimped by monsters that use Death and Expel. It wouldn't be so bad if I could keep fighting when the protagonist gets killed.

I'm thinking Lost Odyssey, Persona 3 FES, or Tales of the Abyss will be my next RPG at this point. Any suggestions?

DQT

04-24-2009, 11:45 PM

Square has done a great job supporting both portables. The PSP also has FF Dissidia, Parasite Eve 3, and FF Agito XIII coming soon, in addition to ports of Valkyrie Profile and the Star Oceans that have been out.

willardhaven

04-25-2009, 12:07 AM

Their portable outings have been better than their console ones. FF IV DS is better than X, XI or XII.

Rei no Otaku

04-25-2009, 03:44 AM

Their portable outings have been better than their console ones. FF IV DS is better than X, XI or XII.
To be fair, IV has always been the best FF.

Over easy

04-25-2009, 05:18 AM

That Persona opening was pretty sweet. I'm starting to think that I need to pick up a PSP someday soon. What are the best RPGs on the PSP? I know there are a lot of ports/remakes.

I don't only many RPGs on PSP, but my favorite is Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth. Jeanne D'Arc is a close second since I love SRPGs. I also have Disgaea, but there was too many things to do. I don't know what I should doing most of the time in Disgaea.

I'm going to see if I can find some other games along with Star Ocean for the B2G1 deal at GS. Last Remnant would be nice, but I won't be maximizing the deal if I get LR.

And of course, I can't forget that Super Robot Taisen is coming out on DS next week.

pete5883

04-25-2009, 09:49 AM

I ended up giving up on SMT Nocturne. I got lost in the Prison where you go through the Magic Mirror. The FAQs I found were missing vital bits of information and got me super lost. I got tired of wandering around trying to find the right path (while also being right side up or upside down) and getting pimped by monsters that use Death and Expel. It wouldn't be so bad if I could keep fighting when the protagonist gets killed.
IMO the DoubleJump guide is crucial when playing Nocturne. I highly recommend it.

Their portable outings have been better than their console ones. FF IV DS is better than X, XI or XII.
:puke:
In the 18 years since it came out on SNES, I've probably started FFIV 4 or 5 times, and I have yet to make it to the end before giving up from boredom.

willardhaven

04-25-2009, 11:26 AM

:puke:
In the 18 years since it came out on SNES, I've probably started FFIV 4 or 5 times, and I have yet to make it to the end before giving up from boredom.

What was better than FF II(IV) in 1991 on a console? The DS remake plays really well, and I think it's a great game overall. What don't you like about FF IV DS? FF X was linear, boring and easy as hell (save for some side quests), XI is online and takes like 100 days to enjoy (screw that) and XII has bad/nonsensical dialogue and boring battles. W

JEKKI

04-25-2009, 04:22 PM

whooo! I beat Ys I + II last nite!

awesome game!!! if u got a Wii and Wii points then wthell why arent u playing this?!?!

now gotta get back to Grandia II, it's been a while...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48445.html

dood gunman posted that in Wii forun... shyt looks sweeeeeet~~!

Lions

04-25-2009, 04:40 PM

Grandia II is amazing.

LostRoad

04-25-2009, 08:45 PM

What was better than FF II(IV) in 1991 on a console? The DS remake plays really well, and I think it's a great game overall. What don't you like about FF IV DS? FF X was linear, boring and easy as hell (save for some side quests), XI is online and takes like 100 days to enjoy (screw that) and XII has bad/nonsensical dialogue and boring battles. W

FF IV will always have a place in my heart. I still remember when it came out and watching the air ship fleet when you first start. Good shit right there. How could you not love Golbez ether? This game brought so many of the series staples to the states also, that we all now know. Best FF there.

On a side note started Lost Odyssey. No idea why I waited so long to get this one, so far I think I am really going to enjoy it.