General Fighting Game Thread #48 Turbo - !quote 16 ^_^

[blackflag]

wow I was totally unprepared for how awesome Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is. I love the engine. They really need to reuse this for an MVC3 or something stateside on the 360 with good online support.

The character selection isn't spectacular but the engine is awesome.

[SmallWind]

Smallwind's girl kicking my girl's ass
:rofl:

[BlueSwim]

You might be, but in a fake commercial... you might be a health drug :lol:

"I used to have problems with pubic hairs growing on my face. It was really embarrassing. Then, I heard about "Facial Pubes-B-Gone". Now I'm nice and smooth. Thanks, Facial Pubes-B-Gone!!!"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Regardless of whether I'm in it, I can't wait to see it.

[RelentlessRolento]

"I used to have problems with pubic hairs growing on my face. It was really embarrassing. Then, I heard about "Facial Pubes-B-Gone". Now I'm nice and smooth. Thanks, Facial Pubes-B-Gone!!!"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Regardless of whether I'm in it, I can't wait to see it.

it'll be a few months till you see it, but I'll be sure to let you guys see it. If possible I'll be sending all FGT regulars signed DVD copies.

[BlueSwim]

That would be kick-ass if you could give the FGT the hook-up.8-)

[hankmecrankme]

it'll be a few months till you see it, but I'll be sure to let you guys see it. If possible I'll be sending all FGT regulars signed DVD copies.

Mine's hitting ebay. $$$$$$$ 8-)

[Mr. Beef]

That shit'll sell like hotcakes.

[jer7583]

Guilty Gear XX Accent Core is fun, but I find it hard to stick with a fighter that doesn't have online anymore.. Nobody to play against locally.. :(

Jam is fun though.

[62t]

wow I was totally unprepared for how awesome Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is. I love the engine. They really need to reuse this for an MVC3 or something stateside on the 360 with good online support.

The character selection isn't spectacular but the engine is awesome.

I dont see how that is a problem. It already got more characters than any VS games aside from MvC2 and left room for improvement in sequel.

[RelentlessRolento]

Mine's hitting ebay. $$$$$$$ 8-)

well, the ones that CAGs would get would be special editions with an alternate cover and everything. I say hold onto them before ebay :lol: I'm not an established name... yet ;)

If you do find a copy of january 09 STEP (http://www.stepinsidedesign.com/) magazine at a magazine stand, pick it up and look for the TM Sisters article. Two games I made are in there and you'll see my name :)

I'm hoping to already start shooting this Wed some of the commercials. The way that it looks like it'll go is I'll start shooting commercials (the setup is like a half hour saturday morning kids show... or at least that's what I'm shooting for), then once the costumes are done being made, shoot the ultraman/power-rangers parts.

First costume that is being made: JEKKI

on that note, JEKKI if ur reading this please send me the highest rez version of your avatar so I can prep it to be printed next week. after that it's going on a huge ass box :bouncy:

[JEKKI]

word... I think this is it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/sambao/Baby.jpg

and I also got

http://i34.tinypic.com/minqli.jpg

fast and FURIOOOOUS!! why so SURIOOOOUS!!

btw aint nothing wrong with my girl's ass... I'm jus saying...

[RelentlessRolento]

*JEKKI's Post*




thanks man! I'll send production pics once a few things get made on the set :bouncy:

[Mr. Beef]

Good games, option & axc. I got d/c'd near the end, and I tried to get back in, but ultimately laziness and sleepiness did a team-up super on me, and now it's time for bed. I'll be moving tomorrow, and I'm not quite sure when I'll have the Triple hooked into the internet again, but hopefully it'll be sometime before the weekend is over.

[option.iv]

ggs beef and axc. I tried to invite you mr. beef, but my fingers weren't fast enough to invite before the lobby closed. Great Honda axc, it was owning up everyone. Same goes for you THawk beef.

[asianxcore]

GG's to you both. Sorry I had to bail out. I got home from work around 12:30am and I have to be awake in 7 hours to visit the g/f.

I hate Sagat. I hate Guile.

[option.iv]

Did anyone provide any methods for charge chars to deal with jump in mix ups whilst having no charge?

All I can really muster up is either get hit and hope a charged move hits after, or just to not let them get into that situation with anti air and spacing. The latter though requires some intense perception (psychic powers) which I unfortunately lack...

[Mr. Beef]

Seems like my worst matchups against my Hawk are Ken, Chun-Li, Cammy, and Guile. I figured that Dhalsim would be one of them, but it turns out that he's not all that bad, at least in the first parts of the round. If I can get a Storm Hammer in at least once, it's usually enough to break the opponent's confidence a bit, I've found. And now that my Hawk confidence has risen, I find myself wanting to fight Dictator more and more, since he's actually one of my better matchups.

Funny story involving a Ryu yesterday. I had perfected him round 1, then in round 2, I was about to smash him again (no perfect, though), and he disconnected. :) Made me all happy inside. Anyone else get disconnected like that?

[MarkMan]

If anyone cares... Arcadia 2008 awards:

http://sdtekken.com/2009/01/03/2008-arcadia-award-winners/

[dizzlle01]

I just got TvC and just got the cubejoybox converter. I'm using my HRAP 2 SA, but the control is all messed up. What is the best way to change the control to make it like the arcade?I couldn't change jack because of all the japanese word.

[MarkMan]

dizzlle01, it's going to be trial and error.

Go to training mode and change the controls.

Training mode looks like this:

トレーニング

If I'm not lazy, tomorrow I'll take a pic of what the layout should be.

[asianxcore]

I just got TvC and just got the cubejoybox converter. I'm using my HRAP 2 SA, but the control is all messed up. What is the best way to change the control to make it like the arcade?I couldn't change jack because of all the japanese word.

Check your PM

[DarthPuma]

I know this is crazy old, but it amazes me every time I see it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuA5we0RZU&feature=related

So I'm ordering a HRAP3 sometime today or tomorrow. Do you guys have any tips on going from a pad to a stick?

[MarkMan]

^ I was there live for that... that shit was amazing !

I have one for a new HRAP user!

Don't give up, get used to it!

[DarthPuma]

^ I was there live for that... that shit was amazing !

I have one for a new HRAP user!

Don't give up, get used to it!

That would have been amazing to see. Easily the coolest video game moment I've EVER seen.

Thanks for the advice lol. I'm suuuuuper pumped. I wish amazon had a half day delivery option cause I don't want to wait till tuesday. :lol:

I'm trying to do dreamcast related things on my computer so I can play MVC2 when I get it in, but I'm having trouble getting it all to work.

Never mind, I got it working. Kick. Ass. Wish I could get my PS3 controller to work as a gamepad so I can play it until the stick comes though.

[BlueSwim]

I'm just thinking out loud with this, but why hasn't Capcom released a collection of fighting games from the Dreamcast era? I was going over Capcom's Dreamcast fighting game line-up a few days ago and it's stacked with great games I'd love to play.

[DarthPuma]

I'm just thinking out loud with this, but why hasn't Capcom released a collection of fighting games from the Dreamcast era? I was going over Capcom's Dreamcast fighting game line-up a few days ago and it's stacked with great games I'd love to play.

That would be kick ass!

Sadly, I'm having problems with sound on the whole mvc2 thing. Not a big deal, but dissapointing.

[SmallWind]

Don't give up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u83LQ5G5kpE

[asianxcore]

Did anyone provide any methods for charge chars to deal with jump in mix ups whilst having no charge?


Against Akuma or Honda ;)

I'm sure JEKKI, SmallWind or KainZero can shine a light on this.

Anyone else get disconnected like that?

Scrubs don't like to lose, so they disconnect. If you completely torch them first round, that'll then to happen and it has happened to me quite a few times. It's only annoying because I feel like I wasted my time.....that and it's a weenie move.

[Mr. Beef]

That rat bastard Justin Wong!

"I AM MvC2." - Justin Wong, EVO 2008

A friend of mine is staying in NY with J. Wo, something about filming him, or whatnot. Once he gets back, I'll shed some more details. Knowing my buddy, he'll try to get Wong to play some Brawl, but I heard he's bad at it (I mean, he kinda got smashed in the Brawl tournament there). But then again, Evo '08 was quite a while back, so I guess I'll find out firsthand how he did.

[heavyd853]

That would have been amazing to see. Easily the coolest video game moment I've EVER seen.

Thanks for the advice lol. I'm suuuuuper pumped. I wish amazon had a half day delivery option cause I don't want to wait till tuesday. :lol:

I'm trying to do dreamcast related things on my computer so I can play MVC2 when I get it in, but I'm having trouble getting it all to work.

Never mind, I got it working. Kick. Ass. Wish I could get my PS3 controller to work as a gamepad so I can play it until the stick comes though.

Don't try to play Marvel on a pad, you'll die!

[DarthPuma]

Don't try to play Marvel on a pad, you'll die!

Haha, it has to be a stepup from a keyboard. I couldn't even dp! :lol:

Why don't they have MVC2 on GGPO?

[SmallWind]

Because NAOMI emulation is still WIP.

[DarthPuma]

Because NAOMI emulation is still WIP.

I see.

Watching EVO videos on youtube is interesting. I never realized how cool high level players matches are to watch.

[JEKKI]

aww hellz no... fuckin Suko with dat Mango Blanka...

man fuck the Knicks... FUCK THE KNICKS!!

[suko_32]

teehee.

edit: curses, looks like only Mango Blanka is effective.

[RelentlessRolento]

aww hellz no... fuckin Suko with dat Mango Blanka...

man fuck the Knicks... FUCK THE KNICKS!!


you so pringles.

[JEKKI]

aww hellz no... fuckin Suko with dat Salmon Honda...

man fuck the Fish... FUCK THE FISH!!

[suko_32]

yum yum...Salmon.

[JEKKI]

word! GGs to the PSN peeps!!

aka the cool crowd!!

[Mr. Beef]

GGs, guys! Although that was more Honda Ochio throws then I'd like to see. How does that fat man bounce so high after landing on someone like that?

[SmallWind]

Farting Wario style but the silent version.

[Mr. Beef]

That should do way more damage, then. :-(

[GuardianE]

I know this is crazy old, but it amazes me every time I see it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuA5we0RZU&feature=related

So I'm ordering a HRAP3 sometime today or tomorrow. Do you guys have any tips on going from a pad to a stick?

This gives me chills every time I see it. I think that I watched it about 15 times in a row the day I discovered it.

That Wong MvC2 video is crazy too. I'd never seen that one before. And I love how the announced screams "Justin Wong!!!" at the end, lol.

[JEKKI]

pfffft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ADiiggvmxw

[RelentlessRolento]

if the fightpads weren't coming out I'd do this:

http://talryyngames.blogspot.com/2009/01/360-controller-mod.html

[DarthPuma]

I went on shoryuken to try to learn how to play Ryu and the guide made my head hurt. I'm defintely going to have to ease into this.

[Mr. Beef]

It'll take a few losses, but it'll stick. Although, I kinda wish I had read something on T. Hawk before I went to 50+ losses to learn how to use him right.

[JEKKI]

not really... it's a lot better to play, lose, then read rather than reading first.

with fighting games it's best to get experience before reading up on knowledge.

I tried to read sum Litchi shyt... it didnt make any sense... it only made more sense after I figured out more moves thru actual gameplay and get my azz kicked for like $25

[Mr. Beef]

As usual, JEKKI has a point. Even though I wish I had some sort of knowledge before going in blind with Hawk, I at least know what works and what doesn't. I'm trying to find a Hawk guide right now, but for some reason, I ain't having too much luck. ANy help?

[suko_32]

As usual, JEKKI has a point. Even though I wish I had some sort of knowledge before going in blind with Hawk, I at least know what works and what doesn't. I'm trying to find a Hawk guide right now, but for some reason, I ain't having too much luck. ANy help?

http://www.shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/T._Hawk_(ST)

It's sad that I have the link and stuff, but haven't read them yet.

[Mr. Beef]

Thanks!

EDIT: What's a "negative edge?" I can't seem to find it in the wiki.

[suko_32]

I dunno :-(

[SmallWind]

http://sonichurricane.com/articles/sfterms.html#technegativeedge

[Mr. Beef]

Still, I got some nice info from that. Funny, it mentions that his RHouse throw is his best, but I didn't like it because I kept getting hit for my troubles right afterward. Also, the matchups section is (not-so) curiously absent. :lol:

[asianxcore]

Although that was more Honda Ochio throws then I'd like to see.

Ochio Throws are hilarious. Probably my favorite thing to throw out when playing Honda.

JEKKI's Honda inspired me to play the fat man myself. Also I agree with your point JEKKI. Gotta play to figure things out with fighting games. Theory fighter is pretty lame.

[Mr. Beef]

Seeing Honda in action makes me think that that's exactly how The Kingpin would play if they ever released another Marvel fighter with him in it. Like, just edit the sprite a bit, and bam, perfect.

[BlueSwim]

it's a lot better to play, lose, then read rather than reading first.

with fighting games it's best to get experience before reading up on knowledge.
QFT.

Step 1: Learn how to fight.

Step 2: Learn how to fight effectively.

Step 3: ???

Step 4: PROFIT!!!

Disclaimer: Steps 3 & 4 may not be effective when trying to learn a fighting game. Your results may very.

[Mr. Beef]

Step 3: Become Justin Wong.

[PhrostByte]

Yea man I can never figure out when to use the Ochio throw effectively. I try to charge the hcb motion and use the negative edge technique.. but I don't know what situations to use it in. Honda isn't really one of my main dudes but I'm ok with him (probably cuz I play him somewhat similar to how I play Blanka). I love how his fierce million hand slap does so much chip damage. I've seen other players do the jumping butt attack (don't know how to do this? no not the flying butt attack, just jumping) and then immediately Ochio throw.. it was pretty cool.

[Mr. Beef]

Jumping butt is down+short in the air, I think. One of the kicks. Then you use the block or hit lag to Ochio throw to your heart's content. It's similar to how Hawk and Gief work.

[kainzero]

I went on shoryuken to try to learn how to play Ryu and the guide made my head hurt. I'm defintely going to have to ease into this.
Ryu is one of the simplest conceptual characters... time your fireballs right, shoryuken any jump in attempts, hurricane kick through the right projectiles, and know how to cancel your sweep into a fireball.

Knowing and perfecting that is good enough to get through most (if not all) players. Easier said than done, though. You don't need to learn anything complex like comboing f+fierce - c.mk - super to stay competitive.

I think that's why I like SF2 a lot. It's amazingly conceptually simple.

[option.iv]

Ryu is one of the simplest conceptual characters... time your fireballs right, shoryuken any jump in attempts, hurricane kick through the right projectiles, and know how to cancel your sweep into a fireball.

Knowing and perfecting that is good enough to get through most (if not all) players. Easier said than done, though. You don't need to learn anything complex like comboing f+fierce - c.mk - super to stay competitive.

I think that's why I like SF2 a lot. It's amazingly conceptually simple.
^That's pretty much Ryu's strategy, tried and true.

Really though, Darth, you gotta start with the basics. Combos are cool and all, but I feel they are nothing without a good head on your shoulders.

I personally think throws and projectiles in this game are immense, a huge part of the game. Therefore, you should practice on those (timing and execution). After you learn these, I'm sure the rest will follow.

With Ryu, the projectile dept. is easily taken care of. What usually augments the fireball game are zoning and spacing. Which I really think can only be learnt from practice against other people. These two things delve into reading the opponent and controlling space.

If you just shoot fireballs all the time, the opponent will most likely catch onto your rhythm and just jump over when you are unable to retaliate. So you just gotta mix it up and at the same time predict what your opponent will do.

However before all this Jedi mind reading stuff, you should be able to execute moves easily. Instead of thinking, "ok, now I have to do a qcf+p to do a fireball", you should work up to the point where you think "now I have to do a fireball." Basically, make excecution second nature. If you're already past this point, disregard it.

Really though, try not to complicate things, rather simplify them. Take it bit by bit. (ironically look at my post...)

Being very good at a game doesn't appear over night, it takes time. I sure as hell have a long way to go. Personally I haven't played sf2 as a kid, so it's a new thing to me. Whereas many others, both in the FGT and SF community have been playing this shit for years.

[Mr. Beef]

Put me in the camp of people who didn't play SF as a kid. It takes more time than you think, but once you get it down, it feels like you've been doing it since the beginning of time. Plus, it just feels damn good.

[RelentlessRolento]

I played it as a kid thanks to a friend of mine who was overly obsessed with fighting games such as SFII and Mortal Kombat games.

It was always cool to see MK gore and blood when you are only around 10 years old or less.

I thank alot of my video gaming upbringing to him. I hope to see him again sometime in my life to see what he's up to.

[hankmecrankme]

I've played SF2 since it first hit arcades. I've always been a huge fan. I'm not as good as I used to be.

[Mr. Beef]

I remember my dad liked Chun-Li cause she had big boobs, so he made me pick her. Right in front of my mom, too. :lol:

[option.iv]

I remember my dad liked Chun-Li cause she had big boobs, so he made me pick her. Right in front of my mom, too. :lol:
LOL

Maybe it's just me, but aren't Chun's boobs larger in Remix?

[Mr. Beef]

You know, I haven't really noticed. Maybe I should take a second look. 8)

[PhrostByte]

Another thing that makes Ryu slightly sicker in this version is his fake fireball. You go fireball, fireball, fireball, the opponent expects you to shoot another one, so they jump.. if you see them jump you can shoryuken.. or if you just expect them to jump you can do fake fireball -> real fireball or fake fireball -> shoryuken real quick. It's a pretty effective fake out.

[DarthPuma]

^That's pretty much Ryu's strategy, tried and true.

Really though, Darth, you gotta start with the basics. Combos are cool and all, but I feel they are nothing without a good head on your shoulders.

I personally think throws and projectiles in this game are immense, a huge part of the game. Therefore, you should practice on those (timing and execution). After you learn these, I'm sure the rest will follow.

With Ryu, the projectile dept. is easily taken care of. What usually augments the fireball game are zoning and spacing. Which I really think can only be learnt from practice against other people. These two things delve into reading the opponent and controlling space.

If you just shoot fireballs all the time, the opponent will most likely catch onto your rhythm and just jump over when you are unable to retaliate. So you just gotta mix it up and at the same time predict what your opponent will do.

However before all this Jedi mind reading stuff, you should be able to execute moves easily. Instead of thinking, "ok, now I have to do a qcf+p to do a fireball", you should work up to the point where you think "now I have to do a fireball." Basically, make excecution second nature. If you're already past this point, disregard it.

Really though, try not to complicate things, rather simplify them. Take it bit by bit. (ironically look at my post...)

Being very good at a game doesn't appear over night, it takes time. I sure as hell have a long way to go. Personally I haven't played sf2 as a kid, so it's a new thing to me. Whereas many others, both in the FGT and SF community have been playing this shit for years.


Thanks for the help man. I've got the simple parts of him down, fireballs to make room, shoryuken when close, throws when possible. I don't have the timing perfect on the fireballs yet though, and I can't use the hurricane kick effectively.

I'm glad to hear you don't have to know the combos though. I almost have one of his bread and butters down (the first one on his shoryuken guide) but the rest were hard to pull off.

[GuardianE]

LOL

Maybe it's just me, but aren't Chun's boobs larger in Remix?

They were surprisingly ginormous in the original ST, if I remember correctly. I'd put up a pic comparison if images weren't blocked at my work. :lol:

I know it's weak, but I started my fighting game fanaticism with Marvel vs. Capcom in the arcades, back when arcades were still alive here on the east coast. Then I moved in Marvel vs. Capcom 2, then Street Fighter Alphas, then Capcom vs. SNKs, then Street Fighter 3s, blah, blah, blah.

I had Street Fighter II Championship Edition for the Genesis way back when, but it never clicked with me. I never got the execution right. It was only once I saw the crazy flashiness that was MvC when I really learned to play Capcom fighters, and 2D fighters in general.

[asianxcore]

Another thing that makes Ryu slightly sicker in this version is his fake fireball. You go fireball, fireball, fireball, the opponent expects you to shoot another one, so they jump.. if you see them jump you can shoryuken.. or if you just expect them to jump you can do fake fireball -> real fireball or fake fireball -> shoryuken real quick. It's a pretty effective fake out.

I'm not a Shoto player but I didn't find the addition of a "fake" fireball all that hot for Ryu. Maybe I'm the only one.

Any decent Shoto player with a relative idea of timing, spacing/zoning is enough to ruin my day without the addition of a "fake" fireball.

[GuardianE]

I'm not a Shoto player but I didn't find the addition of a "fake" fireball all that hot for Ryu. Maybe I'm the only one.

Any decent Shoto player with a relative idea of timing, spacing/zoning is enough to ruin my day without the addition of a "fake" fireball.

I think it has its uses. Its not a necessary move, but it supplements Ryu's arsenal well. After all, jumping out of a corner trap relies on some predictive measure and if you're looking at the beginning animations of a fireball, you could be timing a jump out of it... and get Shoryukened in the face.

I haven't fooled around with it enough, though. If you fake fireball and the opponent sends out a projectile to nullify, will the recovery time be short enough to hurricane kick over it/ fireball nullify it?

I actually like the premise behind the fake fireball more than its use in gameplay. It's like Ryu's saying, "Ohhh, I faked you out, sucka!" every time he does it, heehee.

[BustaUppa]

Yea man I can never figure out when to use the Ochio throw effectively. I try to charge the hcb motion and use the negative edge technique.. but I don't know what situations to use it in. Honda isn't really one of my main dudes but I'm ok with him (probably cuz I play him somewhat similar to how I play Blanka). I love how his fierce million hand slap does so much chip damage. I've seen other players do the jumping butt attack (don't know how to do this? no not the flying butt attack, just jumping) and then immediately Ochio throw.. it was pretty cool.Man that ochio throw still weirds me out! I've actually incorporated it into my Honda game now, but it still comes out accidentally all the time. Like I'll block a move and start mashing punch to do a hundred handslap - then BAM, a surprise ochio comes out! I guess I'm just doing half-circle motions into my blocking stance without realizing it??

[GuardianE]

Man that ochio throw still weirds me out! I've actually incorporated it into my Honda game now, but it still comes out accidentally all the time. Like I'll block a move and start mashing punch to do a hundred handslap - then BAM, a surprise ochio comes out! I guess I'm just doing half-circle motions into my blocking stance without realizing it??

You don't play E.Honda. E.Honda plays you.

[kainzero]

One thing I like to visualize when throwing fireballs is to imagine where the opponent would land after I throw one and he jumps. I use that to time my next one, adding a delay here and there. It's best to learn this in Ryu vs. E.Honda because Ryu SHOULD dominate the match if he fireballs right.

Cancelling sweep into fireball is also important because you can push them back a fair distance to start fireballing again.

J.HK - C.MK - HP Fireball is really good to know, but you shouldn't expect to hit with combos in a real match. I only combo if the opponent can't block a crossup, attempts and misses their reversal, or is dizzy. Also, if you do a combo and it gets completely blocked, you can then try to throw some time during the combo.

The only time I really hurricane kick is to get through projectiles (Guile's Sonic Boom, Yoga Fire, low Tiger Shot) and to build meter by running away. With Ken you can Juice Kick to get you really close if you anticipate a fireball, but that's Ken and we're talking about Ryu.

I spam fake fireball just to put it in their head that I can fake.

[suko_32]

Why do I see more Ken's than Ryu's?

Also, I can't seem to time it right where E. Honda goes through Fireballs.

[gunm]

I'm not a Shoto player but I didn't find the addition of a "fake" fireball all that hot for Ryu. Maybe I'm the only one.

Any decent Shoto player with a relative idea of timing, spacing/zoning is enough to ruin my day without the addition of a "fake" fireball.


Hadokens into shoryuken trap was one of my staples back in the day, so yeah, I'd agree with you there. I lost track of all the different versions of Turbo, Hyper, etc. though, so I don't remember how effective that was over all the iterations.

[kainzero]

Why do I see more Ken's than Ryu's?

Also, I can't seem to time it right where E. Honda goes through Fireballs.
probably 'cause ken is white. i'm not even joking.

ryu is generally more solid than ken because he has a better super and better recovery on fireballs, whereas ken needs to be able to tick throw and play DP guessing games which are great when they work in your favor, but they aren't very solid.

[JEKKI]

Dan vs Dan footage

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23109

lol he's so brutal

-EDIT-

on more! Cammy v Fei-Long

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23110

Fei does ultra twice, but it gets blocked each time

[BustaUppa]

Why do I see more Ken's than Ryu's?I think it's because Ken has the "fun" versions of the shoto moves. The multi-hitting hurricane kick is fun, even though the knockdown version may be strategically preferable. And the FLAMING dragon punch is a sentimental favorite... plus more hits = more fun.

What are some strategic applications for Ken's crazy kicks? Safest special move for some chip damage maybe?

[GuardianE]

I think it's because Ken has the "fun" versions of the shoto moves. The multi-hitting hurricane kick is fun, even though the knockdown version may be strategically preferable. And the FLAMING dragon punch is a sentimental favorite... plus more hits = more fun.

What are some strategic applications for Ken's crazy kicks? Safest special move for some chip damage maybe?

Does Ken have his standing kick variations in HD Remix? I haven't played in a while now. I remember that in Capcom v SNK 2, his Rib Smasher was a safe, high priority move, with good range that did awesome guard damage. Otherwise, I always thought that his kicks were sort of worthless.

They're also overhead attacks, which I guess is nice, but they don't chip and are slow on startup, I think. One of them knocks the opponent down, so it sets them up for a crossup, I suppose.

.

[Rodimus]

Move-wise Dan mimics Ryo a lot more. His standing grab, twisty kick thing, & super move look very similar to Ryo's.

[Mr. Beef]

Dan's a beast.

[BlueSwim]

on more! Cammy v Fei-Long

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23110

Fei does ultra twice, but it gets blocked each time
You made my day! Mad props, JEKKI.:applause::applause::applause:

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... dan looks hella fun to play. might become my main... still undecided between him and fei.

[DarthPuma]

What system is everyone getting SF4 on? I'm getting the PS3 version for sure, but I might YF360G the 360 version if I dual mod my stick.

[hankmecrankme]

PS3 CE for that Bluray, and PC version later when it comes out.

360 SFIV TE stick too, going to dual mod that.

[DarthPuma]

PS3 CE for that Bluray, and PC version later when it comes out.

360 SFIV TE stick too, going to dual mod that.

The movie comes on Blu Ray on the PS3 version? Sick, I'm definitely grabbing it now.

[Rodimus]

Zangief will be my main, but I want to get serious skillz with someone else. I was thinking Rufus. Anyone here use him?

[kainzero]

Does Ken have his standing kick variations in HD Remix? I haven't played in a while now. I remember that in Capcom v SNK 2, his Rib Smasher was a safe, high priority move, with good range that did awesome guard damage. Otherwise, I always thought that his kicks were sort of worthless.

They're also overhead attacks, which I guess is nice, but they don't chip and are slow on startup, I think. One of them knocks the opponent down, so it sets them up for a crossup, I suppose.
he can do some crazy combos. like against fei long...
crossup j.mk - c.mk - qcf+mk(hold) - c.hk

i think it dizzies.
other than that, qcf+mk is your replacement in combos for fireballs, you can do some weird unreliable deadbody crossup with qcf+hk, and it's your overhead, so there's not much.

[RelentlessRolento]

PS3 SFIV for me... never making the same mistake I made with SFIIHD again, but by then I'll have a fight pad.

[hankmecrankme]

The movie comes on Blu Ray on the PS3 version? Sick, I'm definitely grabbing it now.

Yep. I hope Best Buy has the CE, because I have a $40 gift card just waiting to be used on it.

[option.iv]

I'm getting it on the PS3 (don't have 360). Already preordered from deepdiscount. Hopefully the online play is improved over the HDR online play. Goddamn, so many glitches and lost connections, starting to irk me.

btw, I think I want to move back to Chun-li for STHDR. However, I'm having some trouble, especially in the anti-air dept. Mostly against Blanka and the jump in RH from shotos. Since I've been playing Guile, I usually charge down-back. Should I use the vertical whirlwind kick when playing as Chun-li? It just doesn't seem as reliable as a flash, srk or tiger upper. Also seems like a straight jump up RH is better, though if I'm in charging position to block sweeps or low hits, a vertical ww kick comes out often. Anyone got any tips for Remix Chun?

I tried the normal spinning bird kick, but it's hard to land. And to catch someone in the air, I have to know for sure they're jumping in and execute it early since the startup is crap. I'll experiment with it more. So far it could be used as a late/delayed crossup. Though it feels like I could easily get hit out of it.

[Maklershed]

Just thought you kiddies might be interested to know that the Street Fighter 4 FightStick Tournament Edition is $39.99 at Barnes and Noble right now:

http://videogames.barnesandnoble.com/Video-game/Xbox-360-Street-Fighter-IV-Tournament-Edition-FightStick/e/728658015589/?itm=8

That goes for $149.99 on Amazon. :)

[GuardianE]

lmao,
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209927

B&N selling preorders for a 360 TE Stick for $39.99. What a price mistake.

EDIT: Seconds late!

[Rodimus]

Thanks guys, just ordered one. Hopefully the sale goes through clean. I really need a new stick.

[suko_32]

It's on ben's bargins, SD, etc. :-(

[GuardianE]

It's on ben's bargins, SD, etc. :-(

There's no way that it was going to stay quiet... it's over a month until release. And it's not like CAGs aren't buying this thing left and right as we speak.

But regardless, B&N is horrible at honoring price mistakes (even little ones, much less a $110 drop). We'll all get our cancellation emails, but at least can say we tried.

[suko_32]

Good thing it's a third party seller (GS)! There's a .01% more of a chance we'll get it lol.

[PhrostByte]

Man that ochio throw still weirds me out! I've actually incorporated it into my Honda game now, but it still comes out accidentally all the time. Like I'll block a move and start mashing punch to do a hundred handslap - then BAM, a surprise ochio comes out! I guess I'm just doing half-circle motions into my blocking stance without realizing it??

Rez. :bouncy:

Actually.. same thing happens to me. I think it's when someone tries to cross me up, I'll go from blocking one side to blocking to the other, and in the process I guess I'll hcb, then I'll jab to break the cross-up and the Ochio comes out.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'd order one but damn college bills won't let me :(

[RelentlessRolento]

I lost faith a while ago, but I'll get around to seeing it:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/01/streetfighterposter.jpg

[asianxcore]

Man that ochio throw still weirds me out! I've actually incorporated it into my Honda game now, but it still comes out accidentally all the time. Like I'll block a move and start mashing punch to do a hundred handslap - then BAM, a surprise ochio comes out! I guess I'm just doing half-circle motions into my blocking stance without realizing it??

I can't remember if stored Ochio still exists in HD Remix, but if it does that might explain that situation.

[SmallWind]

Chun-li's stored super is still in HD Remix.

[Mr. Beef]

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/street-fighter-hd-remix-thawk.html

Can't believe it took me this long to start reading that, but it has some nice information on Hawk. I lol'd when he talked about the Honda/Guile matchups, since those two almost always make me cry. I don't get beaten as much against Dhalsim and Dictator though, even when people do the things to stop my Dive, so iunno.

[DarthPuma]

I'm slowly getting better. I've gone from complete noob to noob with the basics down. Almost holding my own against the CPU on expert.

[heavyd853]

That's better than I'm doing. I'm too used to Marvel and crazy ass complicated shit going on all the time everywhere!

ST is fun though

[Mr. Beef]

I'm slowly getting better. I've gone from complete noob to noob with the basics down. Almost holding my own against the CPU on expert.
I still have trouble on medium. :(

[DarthPuma]

Haha, I play pretty cheap though, but I guess that's what a shoto is right?!

I'm having a ton of fun with the game, sucking or not. The player matches online are really fun when you get someone relatively close to your level.

Also, I hate Fei Long. With a passion.

[Mr. Beef]

Fei shouldn't be tough if you're a shoto. As long as you aren't trying to jump in against him, you should be fine.

[option.iv]

I still have trouble on medium. :(
I thought it was just me, but the comp is cheap. They are able to continuously charge moves.

[DarthPuma]

Fei shouldn't be tough if you're a shoto. As long as you aren't trying to jump in against him, you should be fine.

That double kick thing just kept raping me. I couldn't really put any distance between us for some reason.

It was my first time to play a real person playing him, so maybe that's why.

Also, I'll be on all day after school tomorrow testing out my stick if anyone wants to play.

[Mr. Beef]

I have most of this week free, so if you see me online, holla.

I tried adding you on PSN, Puma, but you must hate me, or something. :(

[heavyd853]

That double kick thing just kept raping me. I couldn't really put any distance between us for some reason.

It was my first time to play a real person playing him, so maybe that's why.

Also, I'll be on all day after school tomorrow testing out my stick if anyone wants to play.

Just be sure to not do any fireballs if he's in double kick range, since IIRC he can just block and punish the recovery depending on which fireball it is. You can jab shoryu through it too, but the timings kinda annoying.

[DarthPuma]

Just be sure to not do any fireballs if he's in double kick range, since IIRC he can just block and punish the recovery depending on which fireball it is. You can jab shoryu through it too, but the timings kinda annoying.


That was exactly my problem, lol. Threw fireballs at the wrong time and didn't time the shorys right. :lol:

Beef, I never pay attention to my message inbox on PS3 since it's doesn't yell at me like on live. Just send me another and I'll accept it as soon as I get on.

I'm sad that the callous on my left thumb won't get uber hard now. :lol:

[option.iv]

That was exactly my problem, lol. Threw fireballs at the wrong time and didn't time the shorys right. :lol:

Beef, I never pay attention to my message inbox on PS3 since it's doesn't yell at me like on live. Just send me another and I'll accept it as soon as I get on.

I'm sad that the callous on my left thumb won't get uber hard now. :lol:
Jab shoryuken can break through the chicken wing. Practice doing an SRK from crouch position, it'll aid you greatly against the chicken wing spamming Fei Long. Crouching is bait enough for Fei to do his double kick.

[JEKKI]

I can't remember if stored Ochio still exists in HD Remix, but if it does that might explain that situation.


yeay, storing Oicho is still in HD Remix.

if ppl dont know, storing is doing a motion on the joypad, and holding down the last directional input as a means to delay the punch/kick input to finish the move's execution.

so for example, u can do a QCF but hold down forward and you'll keep walking forward... then press punch and you'll throw out a fireball. (not a real example btw... jus a conceptual one)

with Honda u can do the Oicho motion into a low block, then while guarding u can mash punch and when a window of opportunity comes up you'll magically Oicho the opponent.

[PhrostByte]

So, I gut a green 360 controller in the mail and played some Remix with it. Couldn't really tell the difference. With Shoto characters, I did ok on the pad.. not so much with charge characters. After a while I just went back to the analog stick.

[JEKKI]

hay u guys... dont forget...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJ2kUg2mm4

coming soon

[PhrostByte]

What does that have to do with anything JEKKI?

[Mr. Beef]

That video is what's crackin, mang.

[Ronin317]

I'm still on the fence on picking up the XBL SF HD Remix. I've got a couple of SF collections...is it really that good to warrant the purchase?

Keep in mind, I'm hell-bent right now on finishing a few games I still haven't beat, like GTA IV, and making a dent in my backlog of unopened shit sitting on the shelf. Hell, i still only have half the SC IV achievements, and am only on floor 13 of the Tower!

Can't stop playing CoD multiplayer...

Another topic - I'm DYING to play SamSho next month on the PS2. It's been far far too long since I was disappointed with V on the og xbox.

[BustaUppa]

I'm still on the fence on picking up the XBL SF HD Remix. I've got a couple of SF collections...is it really that good to warrant the purchase?

Keep in mind, I'm hell-bent right now on finishing a few games I still haven't beat, like GTA IV, and making a dent in my backlog of unopened shit sitting on the shelf. Hell, i still only have half the SC IV achievements, and am only on floor 13 of the Tower!

Can't stop playing CoD multiplayer...

Another topic - I'm DYING to play SamSho next month on the PS2. It's been far far too long since I was disappointed with V on the og xbox.Depends on what "role" you want a game to fill, really. Are you looking for a game to "play through" or are you looking for a multiplayer standby?

If you want a game where you can jump in any time and play a few rounds, then it doesn't get much better than this, especially if you consider online multiplayer. If you like unlocking things and having a sense of completion, then you're better off investing time elsewhere.

[Ronin317]

Oh, I'm not looking for anything to unlock...I'm just questioning how much play I'd get out of it. When I want a fix, I can always pop in the SF:Anniversary disc, or SF:Alpha Anthology. Obviously, neither of those are online...but I'm not sure I care for SSF, which was not exactly my fave SF game. I think I just answered my own question - it would be played sparingly, I think.

I think I need to fire up the Dreamcast and SFIII:TS after I get back from the Pens game tonight. Or some Vampire Chronicle...

[JEKKI]

What does that have to do with anything JEKKI?


well we're the fighting gamers right??

that video is the very essence of fighting... or at least one of the essences.

if u disagree then it's coz you're weak. WEAK!!

step up or Mana Knight.

[PhrostByte]

well we're the fighting gamers right??

that video is the very essence of fighting... or at least one of the essences.

if u disagree then it's coz you're weak. WEAK!!

step up or Mana Knight.

Don't you dare refer to me as Mana Knight.. that's just cold. :cold:

And Ronin, Remix is the definitive SF2, all other versions are obsolete.

[option.iv]

Oh, I'm not looking for anything to unlock...I'm just questioning how much play I'd get out of it. When I want a fix, I can always pop in the SF:Anniversary disc, or SF:Alpha Anthology. Obviously, neither of those are online...but I'm not sure I care for SSF, which was not exactly my fave SF game. I think I just answered my own question - it would be played sparingly, I think.

I think I need to fire up the Dreamcast and SFIII:TS after I get back from the Pens game tonight. Or some Vampire Chronicle...
Well, I've been playing this game since I got it, which was about 3 weeks ago or more. It's currently the game I've been playing most. Also was playing Motorstorm and GTA4 (finally completed it last weekend) on the side, but the game still holds up very well.

[Jimbo Slice]

new blog!

interview with asianxcore!





also, i have a question. anyone care to make me a heading for my blog? i'm not so great with photoshop etc...

[Mr. Beef]

I was thoroughly entertained.

[DarthPuma]

Got my HRAP3 in. It's going to take a while to get used to it, but I know it will be better when I do.

[gunm]

April 2009! Do I import right away or wait indefinitely for a bargain bin US port?!?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44056.html

[SmallWind]

April 2009! Do I import right away or wait indefinitely for a bargain bin US port?!?If you want to spend a few thousand dollars to import the arcade board. April 2009 is the release date for the arcade version.

[DarthPuma]

Day one import for me.

Fuck, thanks for killing my buzz.

[asianxcore]

I was thoroughly entertained.

Thanks! It's hard to follow anything Chac does. This is the truth.

Also to comment on your "'..hanging out no mo'" comment, my schedule is opening up for good in about a week or so. Hopefully I start figuring out how much time I can devote driving around the Bay for FG hang outs :)

new blog!
interview with asianxcore!


Fun interview. Can't wait to read everyone else's from FG Alumni. Also I love how me being a CVS2 dork is apparent to everyone who talks/meets me. At this point even my girlfriend knows what Roll Canceling is/looks like :)

[gunm]

If you want to spend a few thousand dollars to import the arcade board. April 2009 is the release date for the arcade version.

Lol, I know. I figure it'll be out for japan consoles by what, fall? Before EOY, I imagine.

I dunno if I can wait until 2010 or whenever SNKP decides to release it in the US. :p

Edit: for consoles!

[ninja dog]

K O EFFA RE BARTH

looks great!

Asianxcore revived like Gill! Except we're glad azn came back!

[Mr. Beef]

Thanks! It's hard to follow anything Chac does. This is the truth.

Also to comment on your "'..hanging out no mo'" comment, my schedule is opening up for good in about a week or so. Hopefully I start figuring out how much time I can devote driving around the Bay for FG hang outs :)
I don't know how comfortable you'd be driving up to Sacto, mang. :cry:

[RelentlessRolento]

KoFXII is hot!

also Foley... reading ur interviews ATM. I also seemed to miss the chac one.

[DarthPuma]

Yeah, I love MVC2. I have no clue how to play, but damn it's fun.

If I could get nulldc to display fullscreen it would be even better.

[Mr. Beef]

That's Mahvel, baby. You learn to use the 10 character roster, or go home.

[heavyd853]

Yeah, I love MVC2. I have no clue how to play, but damn it's fun.

If I could get nulldc to display fullscreen it would be even better.

Change the video plugin, I don't remember which one it is but I can fullscreen it.

[hankmecrankme]

KOFXII :drool:.

My Mahvel team is Hayato, Jugg, Cable. Cable is there so I can kill Abyss easy. ;)

[Mr. Beef]

Bison, Jill, C. America. Aerial Raving with Bison is fun, for some reason.

[GuardianE]

Omfg, KOFXII is gorgeous. Like, seriously. Omfg.

Oh and my MvC2 team:
Ken, Cyclops, Captain Commando
or
Morrigan, Cammy, Psylocke

.

[DarthPuma]

I figured it out. Wasn't playing nice with 1440x900 so I dropped it to 1024x768 and it worked like a charm.

I'm using Ryu, Cpt. America, and Cyclops. I'm sure that's a bad team but it's fun.

I have to find a good place to put my stick. Fucker is as big as the PS3!

[Jimbo Slice]

I play just about everyone in Marvel. i fucking love that game.

The team is play competitively with is Sentinel, Cable and Captain Commando.

[Jimbo Slice]

I figured it out. Wasn't playing nice with 1440x900 so I dropped it to 1024x768 and it worked like a charm.

I'm using Ryu, Cpt. America, and Cyclops. I'm sure that's a bad team but it's fun.

I have to find a good place to put my stick. Fucker is as big as the PS3!

'Clops is good cause of his Anti-Air assist.

[BlueSwim]

Here (http://www.thataussiegamesite.com.au/features/Beat-Down/) is a pretty good fighting game related read you guys might want to check out. I only skimmed it, I haven't sat down to read it all yet.

[Jimbo Slice]

no takers on making me a blog heading?

you'll be my next interview if you do ;)

[DarthPuma]

I'll make you a shitty paint one if you interview me. :P

[Mr. Beef]

I would, but this comp I'm using is ancient, and has no image softwarez. Not even paint!

[MarkMan]

Awesome interview!

We need our own subforum!

bwahaha

[Mr. Beef]

Here (http://www.thataussiegamesite.com.au/features/Beat-Down/) is a pretty good fighting game related read you guys might want to check out. I only skimmed it, I haven't sat down to read it all yet.
Seems like the guy has never played Def Jam: FFNY, because it has what he's looking for: story, interactive arenas, and body injuries.

[MarkMan]

<< Done with arcade sticks for awhile.

I just got one I was hunting for about 3 years... ;)

[hankmecrankme]

<< Done with arcade sticks for awhile.

I just got one I was hunting for about 3 years... ;)

Lies. There's always more to get. Start on that Korean stick collection. ;)

[Jimbo Slice]

<< Done with arcade sticks for awhile.

I just got one I was hunting for about 3 years... ;)

Which?

[GuardianE]

I play just about everyone in Marvel. i fucking love that game.

The team is play competitively with is Sentinel, Cable and Captain Commando.

I remember that I was obsessed, making themed teams and figuring out good hyper chains. This was all before I really really knew how to play, but I would have so much fun switching between different teams. I just really liked the idea of such an enormous crossover. I played pretty much everyone. Hell, I'd play as Roll against a friend in order to have a severe handicap.


Seems like the guy has never played Def Jam: FFNY, because it has what he's looking for: story, interactive arenas, and body injuries.

God, that game was so much fun. It was a cross between a wrestling game and a MMA game, but it was just really well done. Conceptually, it sounds stupid, but when they put it together, they really went all out on it. It's not a competent competitive fighter or whatever, but it was accessible to any type of gamer and it was so much damn fun. Perhaps most importantly, it was incredibly refined/polished. I still have fond memories of it.

[Mr. Beef]

I loved all the different finishers. Game was ABAP.

[heavyd853]

Once he made the argument that shooter's have evolved more than fighters, in that fighter's were at the core gameplay exactly the same and just prettier, I stopped reading

[BlueSwim]

God, that game was so much fun. It was a cross between a wrestling game and a MMA game, but it was just really well done. Conceptually, it sounds stupid, but when they put it together, they really went all out on it. It's not a competent competitive fighter or whatever, but it was accessible to any type of gamer and it was so much damn fun. Perhaps most importantly, it was incredibly refined/polished. I still have fond memories of it.
QFMFT. Might need to fire that bad boy up again.;)

[MarkMan]

Lies. There's always more to get. Start on that Korean stick collection. ;)

I have a sticknara, Saulabi, custom Taeyoung, custom Crown, custom Fanta.

I have the stick that MaDDoGJiN (Tekken player) used when he competed.

I have the first custom Korean stick finkle did.

I think I'm set. ;)

I also have a Korean stick made out of a PS2 case.

lol.

Which?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/243726254_10cbacfeba_o.jpg


Funny thing about this stick I bought. I have some history with it.

This stick is extremely limited. It has never been on eBay and has probably been on Yahoo Auctions Japan a handful of times(it always ends around $240+).

Hori originally released both a Hori Real Arcade Special Addition (SAnwa) and Hori Real Arcade Pro Special Edition (SEimitsu) shortly after the launch of the Hori Real Arcade Pro (original one).

At E3 2005 in Kentia Hall, Hori had one on display. By this time, the stick was already sold out/long gone from its one time release (Horistore.com exclusive; was never on Play-Asia or NCSX; I kept hoping it would be though)... I tried LONG and HARD to get the US Hori reps to sell me that stick. They weren't budging saying it is a Japan only limited edition/only one they have/etc etc.

So time goes on. I still look for it. Never found it.

I find out via Hori that less than 400 or so were made. Many of which were used for press/marketing.

Famitsu poll had this controller voted for/nominated as one of the greatest controllers of all time.

The legend continues...

Fast forward to first week of 2009.

Someone tipped me off on the deal. I contact the seller.

Guess who it was? Mr. Hori US rep. Awesome. Deal done.

Happy MarkMan.

:)

In a few days I'll give it my FULLLLLLL REVIEW!!!!!!! (it'll probably be after CES..)

I still have to do my detailed writeup on the SFIV arcade sticks lol.

[Mr. Beef]

Loved killin' Danny Trejo via subway. And throwing the ugly chick out of the penthouse window was hilarious.

[GuardianE]

QFMFT. Might need to fire that bad boy up again.;)


It seriously always bugged me that the game wasn't backwards compatible on the 360. Now that it's dirt cheap, maybe I should snag a copy on the PS2. I'd be buying it more for sentimental value, considering that I'm not sure I feel like starting characters from scratch again.

Also, I've never EVER seen a game let you so meticulously design your own fighting style without forcing you to go through the drudgery of choosing movesets. When you picked primary and secondary fighting styles, there was an obvious blend that was unique for you. Did you guys know that there were about six or so specific styles available depending on which combo of Martial Arts and secondary style you chose? Like, you could get Drunken Master, Kung fu, Tiger Claw, Crane... it was really ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that it was in a game featuring rappers beating the crap out of each other.

[hankmecrankme]

I have a sticknara, Saulabi, custom Taeyoung, custom Crown, custom Fanta.

I have the stick that MaDDoGJiN (Tekken player) used when he competed.

I have the first custom Korean stick finkle did.

I think I'm set. ;)

I also have a Korean stick made out of a PS2 case.

lol.

Sounds like a sweet Korean stick collection. :)

What you don't have would be an easier question to answer.

Also, that's a hell of a snag on that HRAP SE.

Loved killin' Danny Trejo via subway. And throwing the ugly chick out of the penthouse window was hilarious.

I threw him in front of the subway train too. It was hilarious. :)

[Mr. Beef]

Which version was the best one? I heard that the PS2's load times were worse than the GC's, and I know that you couldn't edit voices in the GC, either.

[hankmecrankme]

I heard Xbox, due to 480p and slightly better graphics. Only played the PS2 version.

My dude was 400 pounds, black, and fought in his undies and a headband.

[ninja dog]

why do people always bring up bodily injuries as a way to evolve fighters? seems like a step towards realism, which is not what fighters need to become more fun.

[GuardianE]

I heard Xbox, due to 480p and slightly better graphics. Only played the PS2 version.

My dude was 400 pounds, black, and fought in his undies and a headband.

I only played XBox, and I imagine it looked/sounded better than the other versions.

lol. I made an assortment of joke characters and then tried to make one look like me. My friend made a pretty convincing Abraham Lincoln.

why do people always bring up bodily injuries as a way to evolve fighters? seems like a step towards realism, which is not what fighters need to become more fun.

I think you just answered your own question. Oftentimes people forget that realism does not necessarily mean fun or a good game, and is sometimes a crutch that developers use to not have to come up with genuinely innovative gameplay mechanics. Sometimes realism works and sometimes it doesn't, but most people consider it "advancing gaming."

[gunm]

I am curious if MM will actually play that ultra rare stick regularly?

[MarkMan]

I am curious if MM will actually play that ultra rare stick regularly?

Probably not as much as I use my Namco arcade sticks... There's a reason why I have so many of them. They're SO GOOD!

But as far as bigger sized arcade sticks go. I kind of like the HRAP1 ver. A.... or the SFIV stick...

[GuardianE]

I still have to do my detailed writeup on the SFIV arcade sticks lol.

When will Madcatz let you divulge? ;)

[hankmecrankme]

Probably not as much as I use my Namco arcade sticks... There's a reason why I have so many of them. They're SO GOOD!

But as far as bigger sized arcade sticks go. I kind of like the HRAP1 ver. A.... or the SFIV stick...

Hell yeah, Namco sticks are so good. I wish I would've bought all of them when Walmart had 4 of them for $15 bucks. I only bought one. :cry:

[RelentlessRolento]

no takers on making me a blog heading?

you'll be my next interview if you do ;)


you implying me?

if so, shoot me a PM early afternoon tomorrow and I'll get something done quick at school. :)

I promise no big eyebrows ;)

[MarkMan]

When will Madcatz let you divulge? ;)

CES starts on Thursday.

I won't be back until Friday night.

So, if I'm lazy, you'll have to wait until Monday :P



I promise no big eyebrows ;)

What's wrong with big eyebrows!!!!

[PhrostByte]

What's a blog heading? And what do you want in it?

[GuardianE]

If it hasn't been posted here yet, Scorch announced that the Gamecrazy preorder bonus for SF4 will be a Medallion/Coin with Ryu engraved on one side and a 20th annivesary on the other.

I like to think that it's a shoutout to when people would put coins on the arcade machine to reserve a spot, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

[Jimbo Slice]

you implying me?

if so, shoot me a PM early afternoon tomorrow and I'll get something done quick at school. :)

I promise no big eyebrows ;)

It would be nice, but I know you Rolentos tend to be a lazy bunch ;)

What's a blog heading? And what do you want in it?

it's the image that appears at the top of many CAGs blogs. and I want sweet Street Fighter artwork in it.

[SmallWind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAX47MLyZtc

[RelentlessRolento]

It would be nice, but I know you Rolentos tend to be a lazy bunch ;)



:lol: lazy? more like forgetful >_< everytime I have money, I forget to send you EX3, and everytime I don't have money I remember >_<

I have a special corner in my room dedicated to EX3 :lol:

so yeah, us Rolentos ;)

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r159/douggggiefresh/rolento.gif

[RelentlessRolento]

One nice thing about the English/Japanese SFIV voiceovers is that you can take people more seriously who play it in Japanese, and have fun with people who play in english.

[BlueSwim]

"RETS GO!" :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

"mish-uhn-cum-prete!"

[Jimbo Slice]

I was just ball-busting ReRo.

http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/sfa3/series1/rolento.gif

[JEKKI]

it's the image that appears at the top of many CAGs blogs. and I want sweet Street Fighter artwork in it.


dag yo, my idea woulda been to have Usagi Yojimbo holding a katana...

get it?? Yo Jimbo Slice!!

http://www.confessions123.com/UsagiBW.jpg

[Jimbo Slice]

dag yo, my idea woulda been to have Usagi Yojimbo holding a katana...

get it?? Yo Jimbo Slice!!

http://www.confessions123.com/UsagiBW.jpg

:rofl:

[heavyd853]

Jekki, if you ever embark on a campaign to take over the world, count me in.

[RelentlessRolento]

I was just ball-busting ReRo.

http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/sfa3/series1/rolento.gif

I know :bomb:

I was just bustin my own balls as well >_<

still wish Rolento was in SFIV, even though he's never been my main.

It's silly how I hate military games, but in fighters I always like the military/police/security based characters...

Styker, Kevin Rain, Ralf Clark, Heidern, Rolento, Bryan Fury, Dragunov, etc...

[Jimbo Slice]

I know :bomb:

I was just bustin my own balls as well >_<

still wish Rolento was in SFIV, even though he's never been my main.

It's silly how I hate military games, but in fighters I always like the military/police/security based characters...

Styker, Kevin Rain, Ralf Clark, Heidern, Rolento, Bryan Fury, Dragunov, etc...

who the fuck is kevin rain

[asianxcore]

I don't know how comfortable you'd be driving up to Sacto, mang. :cry:

We'll see dude. I've driven farther to hang out with friends and even get some FG hangouts in. For a month I drove 1.5 hours to play SFIV in San Jose.

Do you live in Sacto near the edge of the city (near Elk Grove), Downtown or the crappy side near Orangevale?

I'll be working less starting next week, but I'm taking on 3 sections of Art History TA'ing as well as my own classes soon. Hopefully I'll be less stressed.

On a random note, it just hit me today that SFIV is a little over a month away. Wow

[RelentlessRolento]

who the fuck is kevin rain


:lol: I had to look him up since I forgot his name:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIBaI5AFYGE

[Jimbo Slice]

Oh.......... that Kevin

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol:

I hate to say it, but I got burnt out on Garou. I played it so much for 4 days straight years ago and my head hurt... I totally forgot everything about that game now.

[SmallWind]

dag yo, my idea woulda been to have Usagi Yojimbo holding a katana...

get it?? Yo Jimbo Slice!!

:rofl:

[RelentlessRolento]

if JEKKI made a fighter, I think it'd have this song and these characters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUuk6TUSZUc

[option.iv]

One nice thing about the English/Japanese SFIV voiceovers is that you can take people more seriously who play it in Japanese, and have fun with people who play in english.
I thought it wasn't cool to listen to japanese voice overs...

[RelentlessRolento]

I thought it wasn't cool to listen to japanese voice overs...


I set mine to vaginal sounds. it made my eye bleed.

[heavyd853]

I wish they had animal noises, like in the Suikoden extras.

Its just something about that meow that comes out every time you cancel that makes me a little warmer inside.

[BustaUppa]

dammit, I was trying to do business with a guy on Shoryuken.com, and now they don't let you send PMs unless you have a minimum post count!

So I figured I'd post in the guy's thread instead, but they added a 100 post / 6 month minimum before you can use the trading forum. #-o

bahhhh... so freakin close to getting my custom stick!!! yet so far... :wall:

I guess I could try to think of 15 posts to make, so I could start sending PMs. But with the way that forum is, I'm probably gonna accidentally break some rule and get banned before I even qualify. :oops:

[Mr. Beef]

We'll see dude. I've driven farther to hang out with friends and even get some FG hangouts in. For a month I drove 1.5 hours to play SFIV in San Jose.

Do you live in Sacto near the edge of the city (near Elk Grove), Downtown or the crappy side near Orangevale?

I'll be working less starting next week, but I'm taking on 3 sections of Art History TA'ing as well as my own classes soon. Hopefully I'll be less stressed.

On a random note, it just hit me today that SFIV is a little over a month away. Wow
I live near Rancho Cordova. I'm still trying to get my bearings, but everything is so damn confusing compared to DC/SF.

I'm so picking up SFIV when it drops. I really hope T. Hawk is in it, 'cause I got my hopes up from that Dan mirror match (it had two extra slots where the New Challengers slots are).

[Ronin317]

dammit, I was trying to do business with a guy on Shoryuken.com, and now they don't let you send PMs unless you have a minimum post count!

So I figured I'd post in the guy's thread instead, but they added a 100 post / 6 month minimum before you can use the trading forum. #-o

bahhhh... so freakin close to getting my custom stick!!! yet so far... :wall:

I guess I could try to think of 15 posts to make, so I could start sending PMs. But with the way that forum is, I'm probably gonna accidentally break some rule and get banned before I even qualify. :oops:

I noticed that about SRK...it's a bit too clique-y for my tastes.

[PhrostByte]

I live near Rancho Cordova. I'm still trying to get my bearings, but everything is so damn confusing compared to DC/SF.

I'm so picking up SFIV when it drops. I really hope T. Hawk is in it, 'cause I got my hopes up from that Dan mirror match (it had two extra slots where the New Challengers slots are).

Those are for Akuma and Schlong... still they might be downloadable characters (doubt it).

[Mr. Beef]

Schlong was in the bottom-right of the select screen, next to Dan, for whatever reason. There's also an extra space next to the infinity symbol, opposite of the random select box. Could be for Akuma. *completely in denial*

[PhrostByte]

Schlong was in the bottom-right of the select screen, next to Dan, for whatever reason. There's also an extra space next to the infinity symbol, opposite of the random select box. Could be for Akuma. *completely in denial*

Nah dude, that's Gen. Top right boxes are Akuma and Schlong. Middle left box is Seth.

[BlueSwim]

@Mr. Beef - That Godot avatar brings back some amazing memories, especially that last case in T&T....I wish the Phoenix Wright games had more(or any) replayability. :cry::cry::cry:

[Mr. Beef]

Nah dude, that's Gen. Top right boxes are Akuma and Schlong. Middle left box is Seth.Oh yeah, I forgot about Gen. :cry:

@Mr. Beef - That Godot avatar brings back some amazing memories, especially that last case in T&T....I wish the Phoenix Wright games had more(or any) replayability. :cry::cry::cry:
I replay them all the time, but I space them out so I kinda forget the answers to everything. Even though they don't have a lot (if any) replayability, it still feels magical when you beat those final cases.

[PhrostByte]

So where you guys ordering SFIV from? And for what system? I'd ideally like a decent price.. don't care TOO much about the CE, although I would get it if the price was right. Also, what's the deal with exclusive downloadable content? Is that for real? I think it was gamestop that said they have exclusive costumes, I won't be able to buy them off of Xbox marketplace?

[Mr. Beef]

I'm gonna get it for PS3, then practice like fuck.

[GuardianE]

So where you guys ordering SFIV from? And for what system? I'd ideally like a decent price.. don't care TOO much about the CE, although I would get it if the price was right. Also, what's the deal with exclusive downloadable content? Is that for real? I think it was gamestop that said they have exclusive costumes, I won't be able to buy them off of Xbox marketplace?

See, because I'm a giant whore, I'm going to try and preorder from Hollywood Video to see if they offer the excusive preorder bonus medallion.

Hopefully I'll be getting the game for both systems.

Gamestop shouldn't have exclusive downloads. The exclusive downloads are part of the Collector's Edtiion. Whether or not they can be purchased off the marketplace has not been answered.

[BustaUppa]

So SFIV has Akuma AND Shen Long (yeah, I'm late)??? Does Shen Long play differently than a standard shoto at least? I kinda assumed that, since they were doing a new game from scratch, they'd veer away from semi-redundant shotos (aside from the necessary inclusions of Ken and Ryu, that is).I noticed that about SRK...it's a bit too clique-y for my tastes.Haha yeah, basically my plan is 15 posts then GTFO. At that point I will have satisfied their new, ill-timed post requirement, so I can resume my PM conversation with that guy in the trading forum.

I'm up to 10 posts so far. Mostly in their general forum... that seems safe!

[GuardianE]

So SFIV has Akuma AND Shen Long (yeah, I'm late)??? Does Shen Long play differently than a standard shoto at least? I kinda assumed that, since they were doing a new game from scratch, they'd veer away from semi-redundant shotos (aside from the necessary inclusions of Ken and Ryu, that is).Haha yeah, basically my plan is 15 posts then GTFO. At that point I will have satisfied their new, ill-timed post requirement, so I can resume my PM conversation with that guy in the trading forum.

I'm up to 10 posts so far. Mostly in their general forum... that seems safe!

From the few gameplay videos I've seen (but I'm sure that many posters here would be able to tell you from hands on experience), Shen Long, or rather Gouken as he's called in SF4, has a ground dual Hadouken (one travels forward and one anti-air), a vertical rising Tatsumaki Sempuu Kyaku, and Shin Shoryuken.

I believe there was a video posted in here earlier?

[Mr. Beef]

Damn!

So I got bored today, and decided to dust off the ol' SNES and play some TMNT Tournament Fighters. Holy shit, the AI is rough stuff, even on default! I must've burned through about 6 continues before I got to the second match! After that, I just turned it off. Fucking shit!

[JEKKI]

lol, subtitles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wn3AwnFWc

[suko_32]

GG's Beef! Sorry I left you, but I was getting tired of HD Remix. Your T. Hawk is looking pretty good!

Using a controller produces weird moves that I don't mean to do at times. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad lol.

Edit: Oh wait, wrong thread.

[Zmonkay]

That movie looks horrible. At least with the first one, I was expecting camp, and that's what I got. It also had a ton of characters that I could recognize right away. This one... I friggin had to IMDB that shit to find out the bad guy was Bison... Vega, Balrog I get (well, I assumed Balrog, just cuz Michael Clark Dunkin is black...) but wow, is that all the SF characters we get in a SF movie? Sad.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but we have at least fascimiles of:
Bison
Balrog
Chun Li
Vega
and according to IMDB, but IDK if everyone knows it Gen

Is that friggin IT?

[Mr. Beef]

GG's Beef! Sorry I left you, but I was getting tired of HD Remix. Your T. Hawk is looking pretty good!

Using a controller produces weird moves that I don't mean to do at times. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad lol.

Edit: Oh wait, wrong thread.

Thanks. I don't know what I was thinking picking Balrog, but apparently he worked in a few games. Almost makes me want to practice him too, but I'm not too sure.

[suko_32]

I'm practicing E. Honda myself. I like the Ochio throw too much.

[JEKKI]

last issue of EGM...

http://media.1up.com/media/03/6/6/8/sm/836.jpg

:cry:

[heavyd853]

That movie looks horrible. At least with the first one, I was expecting camp, and that's what I got. It also had a ton of characters that I could recognize right away. This one... I friggin had to IMDB that shit to find out the bad guy was Bison... Vega, Balrog I get (well, I assumed Balrog, just cuz Michael Clark Dunkin is black...) but wow, is that all the SF characters we get in a SF movie? Sad.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but we have at least fascimiles of:
Bison
Balrog
Chun Li
Vega
and according to IMDB, but IDK if everyone knows it Gen

Is that friggin IT?

Gen's in the trailer, he's way younger than he's supposed to be or something like that because they didn't want him to be a wise old master character......because that's what he is or something?

[RelentlessRolento]

it's genna be weird with no EGM... not that I like it, just weird without it around.

[MarkMan]

So like... I played Street Fighter IV (final version) for like 4 hours straight today.

This game has set a new standard for presentation (fighting game wise).

WOW.

[RelentlessRolento]

hot. I love top notch presentation!

[heavyd853]

Fuck I can't wait a month!

Hopefully I'll have enough money to get skate 2, since i have a 30 dollar target giftcard.

[DarthPuma]

I need a third dude for MVC2, to go with Ryu and Cyclops!

[heavyd853]

cable, and ditch ryu for magneto!

That was the first team I started playing real people with,

Magneto, Cable, clops! In projectile, AA,AA assists!

[DarthPuma]

cable, and ditch ryu for magneto!

That was the first team I started playing real people with,

Magneto, Cable, clops! In projectile, AA,AA assists!

But I love ryu. :cry:

I don't think I have magneto unlocked.

I hate how there is no moves list.

[RelentlessRolento]

my MvC2 team always seems to be Venom, Captain Commando, and Jin.

[Mr. Beef]

Ryu is pimp, and so is Clops. You should go Cable, since they have like, the same move list. All three of them.

[DarthPuma]

Ryu is pimp, and so is Clops. You should go Cable, since they have like, the same move list. All three of them.

Will do. I just now figured out thanks to gamefaqs that you have to hit the buttons twice to get out the medium punch? Odd.....

I can't figure out any of the supers other than the giant 3 man one. Is ryu's not the same as in ST?

[Mr. Beef]

Naw. Everyone's supers are done with one motion and two punches or kicks, whatever is usually required. Everyone also has like, 3 supers. And most of those supers can be done in the air.

MAHVEL, BABY.

[DarthPuma]

Naw. Everyone's supers are done with one motion and two punches or kicks, whatever is usually required. Everyone also has like, 3 supers. And most of those supers can be done in the air.

MAHVEL, BABY.

Shit, game is deep. I guess I'll have to brave a wall of text gamefaqs faq and figure this out.

Or go to shoryuken...

I don't like the hitting the button twice thing, that will take forever to get used to.

I'm gonna be fucked next time I play HDREMIX lol.

[Mr. Beef]

If you're using Cyclops or Ryu or Cable, most basic super to use is QCF+Light+Hard punch. Shit will get you out of most jams.

[refusedchaos]

i know im alone on this but...im WAY more pumped up for KoF XII than SFIV

[DarthPuma]

If you're using Cyclops or Ryu or Cable, most basic super to use is QCF+Light+Hard punch. Shit will get you out of most jams.

I'll remember that for when I'm playing tomorrow.

I need to find a better version of what I'm playing or something, the sound cuts out too much.

You're not alone refused.

[Mr. Beef]

They both have what what I want: Dan and Joe.

[sundaysuit]

I've played a couple of fighting games here and there, but I've never been big on them.

I bought the SF anniversary collection for PS2.
Maybe it's 'cause I'm a noob, but am I the only one that has trouble pulling off combos when I'm on the player 2 side?

[RelentlessRolento]

I've played a couple of fighting games here and there, but I've never been big on them.

I bought the SF anniversary collection for PS2.
Maybe it's 'cause I'm a noob, but am I the only one that has trouble pulling off combos when I'm on the player 2 side?


starting off with fighters, playing on 2P side takes some getting use to. just get comfortable with 1P side then slowly you'll get better at 2P side... just don't force yourself to be on the left side when ur opponent switches sides.

[option.iv]

i know im alone on this but...im WAY more pumped up for KoF XII than SFIV
Has there been any recent news on KoF XII? I would be more excited about it, but I'm sort of disappointed at the roster. I know they're making new HD sprites, but XI had so many chars. Maybe they'll surprise us with a multitude of unlockable characters. Still hoping for K' and Elizabeth.

[sundaysuit]

all right.

i'll probably get sf 4 but it reminds me of the sf ex games on ps2; everyone looks so bulky.

[option.iv]

I've played a couple of fighting games here and there, but I've never been big on them.

I bought the SF anniversary collection for PS2.
Maybe it's 'cause I'm a noob, but am I the only one that has trouble pulling off combos when I'm on the player 2 side?
Perfectly normal. Just takes some practice.

[RelentlessRolento]

oh shit! man the new T6: Bloodline Reb customs are fucking great! a million times better than the regular T6 stuff! Hot Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

56k warning!

Note: Geeze I love the new dragunov stuff... so good! love the black facepaint!

Also note some of this is just hair customization


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damn... took me 15 to copy and paste all this >_<

[MarkMan]

alright, i suck at gambling

im gonna drop 40 bucks in a slot machine

will update in 10 minutes

[hankmecrankme]

Having to wait until fall (?) sucks for Tekken 6 BR, but I know I'll play the shit out of it. Plus I have other fighters to tide me over until then.

[akilshohen]

Getting more excited about SF4, I saw a bunch of vids on game videos. Game looks awesome

[heavyd853]

Lili!!!!!!!!!!!



I thought Zafina's 80's Brooklyn getup was hilarious!

[MarkMan]

uhhhh, shit.

that was quick.

lol.

T6BR yea!

[suko_32]

Way to lose $40 in less than 27 minutes :)

[BlueSwim]

So like... I played Street Fighter IV (final version) for like 4 hours straight today.

This game has set a new standard for presentation (fighting game wise).

WOW.
Quick question, without revealing anything that would break any NDAs(and therefore, get you in trouble.), would you say that SFIV has enough for the offline gamer(like me) to justify a day 1 purchase?

There really hasn't been much revealed about the additional modes for the home version, other than what the PS3 trophies spoiled. I know you said that you don't usually play 1P in fighting games, but I was just wondering if anything caught your eye while you were playing it.8-)

[heavyd853]

Of course it will Blueswim, you can play other people offline!!!!!

[option.iv]

Didn't Relento post the trophies that can be unlocked. I remember it being fairly lengthy.

As for the rest of offline mode, I think that depends on whether you have someone to actually play with.