General Fighting Game Thread #48 Turbo - !quote 16 ^_^

[hankmecrankme]

I be down for some HD Remix later too.

[JEKKI]

yup! stayed home instead of going to regionals!!

I went bboying instead, and ran into the older brother of top MVC2 player Fanatiq.

I didnt kno who he was, we were jus talking about bboying, but once we found out that we've met before all he kept talking about was games!!

he wants me to enter a MK v DC tournament, and I'm like ummmmm...

and he's like "yeay I useta be hella good at bboying, I was doing air flares n shyt a few years ago but I cant do them now since I dont practice much"

and then he pulls off a 90 like it's nothing O_o what a bastard lol

[gigan54]

so there's a pretty good chance I'll be picking up a ps3 in the next 2 weeks and I was wondering where i can find the best deal on the sf4 ce pack. any ideas?

[BlueSwim]

so there's a pretty good chance I'll be picking up a ps3 in the next 2 weeks and I was wondering where i can find the best deal on the sf4 ce pack. any ideas?
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209618

Here ya go!8-)

[gigan54]

sweet! i've bought stuff from DD beck when they were DDD. i've had minimal problems with them and hopefully this arrives on time. thanks!

so... anybody down for some 3S on ggpo? lemme know

[JEKKI]

niiiiiice!

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/jan/18/gamers-fill-simi-arcade-to-do-battle/

local newspaper payin dat respeck

[jer7583]

I've wanted to re-buy a saturn again for those two sweet, sweet vs fighter imports, but doesn't GGPO + USB Saturn pad make it kind of a moot point?

[heavyd853]

Unless you're really into shoot em ups and old old rpgs, prettymuch.

[MarkMan]

Team XCM will be sending me both the Cross Battle Adapter (360 to PS3) and the Dominator Arcade Stick (PS3) for review on SDTEKKEN.COM!

I hope they're good!

[suko_32]

Yay!

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... wasn't expecting this :lol:


http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/__icsFiles/artimage/2009/01/18/pc_fc_n_gn/d.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221344_1124.html?ref=rss

at least Ono knows how to represent (ie. shirt).

[hankmecrankme]

Team XCM will be sending me both the Cross Battle Adapter (360 to PS3) and the Dominator Arcade Stick (PS3) for review on SDTEKKEN.COM!

I hope they're good!

I hope the Cross Battle Adapter is lagless. I was going to dual mod my SFIV TE stick, but if it works, I'll get one of those. I would like one of those 360 Fightpads too, so then I could use it on PS3 and 360 no problem.

[RelentlessRolento]

MM any updates on your arcade stick site? I know ur busy as hell but just wondering if it's still on track.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol:

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2009/01/19/namco-bandai-officially-announces-dragonball-evolution/

[gunm]

XvSF was sort of a must buy--I guess I had to have as many of those Saturn fighters as I could find/afford. :p

The SFIV producer teased the possibility of another CvSNKP game, but I'd rather have the more impossible to happen MvC game. :p

[hankmecrankme]

I played so much Xmen Vs. Street Fighter on Saturn when I got it. That and Vampire Savior, plus the Real Bout Collection. I was so addicted to those. :)

[Chacrana]

:lol:

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2009/01/19/namco-bandai-officially-announces-dragonball-evolution/

This is why I bitch about the game industry as it is now.

[JEKKI]

:lol:

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2009/01/19/namco-bandai-officially-announces-dragonball-evolution/that's so $%#@ awesome.

all I wish is that General Sawada is an unlockable character.

Sawada 4 lyfe.

[MarkMan]

MM any updates on your arcade stick site? I know ur busy as hell but just wondering if it's still on track.

It's on hold. Work has been owning the shit out of me :(

[hankmecrankme]

that's so $%#@ awesome.

all I wish is that General Sawada is an unlockable character.

Sawada 4 lyfe.

Sawada was so beastly. I wish he was in SFIV. ;)

[Chacrana]

Wow, like 8 posts in a minute. Question: Is there any reason to pick up Vampire Savior on the Saturn over the PS2 compilation? Like, are there remixed soundtracks or anything kewl?

[gunm]

All I know is Saturn with the RAM cart was always more beastly at 2D/frames than the PS2--especially for arcade perfect fighters. Haven't played the PS2 compilation myself, so I couldn't say if there was any reason to pick the PS2 version beyond it having all the games on one disc.

[Chacrana]

All I know is Saturn with the RAM cart was always more beastly at 2D/frames than the PS2--especially for arcade perfect fighters. Haven't played the PS2 compilation myself, so I couldn't say if there was any reason to pick the PS2 version beyond it having all the games on disc.

I haven't had a chance to play any Saturn games that use the 4M cart, but I'm hoping to in the near future. I really haven't had a chance to give this system much play time yet, and that makes me so terribly sad. Heck, I don't even have any fighters right now... just Mega Man 8, MMX4, Galactic Attack, Panzer Dragoon Zwei, and Silhouette Mirage. That's not nearly hardcore enough.

But soon...

[BustaUppa]

I was totally out of the Saturn loop... all I had at the time was my PC version of X-Men: COTA!

I have no idea how arcade-accurate the game was... all I remember was that you needed to install a patch to get chain combos to work. Oh and the arcade code to use Akuma was in. Best thing about that version now is that it used Redbook audio, so all the music tracks are right there on the CD!

[hankmecrankme]

I played both the Saturn VS and VS on the PS2 Vampire Collection. They are pretty damn close, though the Saturn version has the English option, with (ugh) white blood. So I always played it in Japanese. The Saturn version of VS, meaning, the closest one to it character and gameplay wise, not the actual Saturn version, is unlockable in the Vampire Collection.

VC runs in 480p too, so it looks pretty good.

[Chacrana]

X-Men COTA was the first fighting game I saw in arcades that wasn't Street Fighter II. It was easily like... the coolest fucking game ever. Seriously, what an awesome concept... just make a buncha X-Men characters fight, but also make the game fun. I remember the arcade cab that the game was playing on was one of those with a big screen TV and it was pretty awesome, especially since I was a stupid kid at the time who didn't know that TVs could be made that big.

[Chacrana]

I played both the Saturn VS and VS on the PS2 Vampire Collection. They are pretty damn close, though the Saturn version has the English option, with (ugh) white blood. So I always played it in Japanese. The Saturn version of VS, meaning, the closest one to it character and gameplay wise, not the actual Saturn version, is unlockable in the Vampire Collection.

VC runs in 480p too, so it looks pretty good.

So if you could only have one version of the game. Like, some dude says "hey man, I'm taking one of these two games from you, and I'll kill you if you try and pull a fast one..." which one? I don't really care about having all the other DS games that aren't as good, either.

[gunm]

As much as I like compilations of old school games, I hate unlocking games within the game. Just let me play it when I want! :p

[Chacrana]

As much as I like compilations of old school games, I hate unlocking games within the game. Just let me play it when I want! :p

You must have loved Sonic Gems Collection:

Bare Knuckle (aka Street of Rage) play SGC for a total of 12 hours and play Bonanza Bros once or play any combination of any other game at least 30 times.

Bare Knuckle 2 (aka Street of Rage 2) play SGC for a total of 12 hours and play Bare Knuckle once or play any combination of any other game at least 50 times.

Bare Knuckle 3 (aka Street of Rage 3) play SGC for a total of 12 hours and play Bare Knuckle 2 once or play any combination of any other game at least 70 times.

Bonanza Bros. play SGC for a total of 12 hours, play Vectorman 2 once or play any combination of any other game at least 20 times.

Vectorman play SGC for a total of 5 hours or have a Sonic Mega Collection save file in your memory card.

Vectorman 2 play SGC for a total of 7 hours and play Vectorman once.

I think there was another Sega compilation... maybe the original Sonic Mega Collection... that actually required you to have a save file for Sonic Heroes to unlock a game at all. There was no other way. I think it was Comix Zone, so no big loss, but still. Ridiculous.

[hankmecrankme]

So if you could only have one version of the game. Like, some dude says "hey man, I'm taking one of these two games from you, and I'll kill you if you try and pull a fast one..." which one? I don't really care about having all the other DS games that aren't as good, either.

Hmm, well, The Vampire Collection is $25 on Play Asia. That's pretty cheap. And I can play it in 480p and use PS2 sticks on it. But I do have many fond memories of the Saturn version. Give me a few days and I'll compare them fully and let you know, if you are curious. I don't have access to my PS2 or Saturn at the moment. :cry:

And as far as unlocking things, I just DL'd a save, because I'm impatient.

[Chacrana]

Hmm, well, The Vampire Collection is $25 on Play Asia. That's pretty cheap. And I can play it in 480p and use PS2 sticks on it. But I do have many fond memories of the Saturn version. Give me a few days and I'll compare them fully and let you know, if you are curious. I don't have access to my PS2 or Saturn at the moment. :cry:

And as far as unlocking things, I just DL'd a save, because I'm impatient.

Yeah, man, if you don't mind, a quick comparison would be super helpful.

[BustaUppa]

X-Men COTA was the first fighting game I saw in arcades that wasn't Street Fighter II. It was easily like... the coolest fucking game ever. Seriously, what an awesome concept... just make a buncha X-Men characters fight, but also make the game fun. I remember the arcade cab that the game was playing on was one of those with a big screen TV and it was pretty awesome, especially since I was a stupid kid at the time who didn't know that TVs could be made that big.A cool thing in COTA was how they had those collapsible floors on some stages. Did they use that in any other games? Some expanded freefall fighting mechanics would be sweet!

[Chacrana]

A cool thing in COTA was how they had those collapsible floors on some stages. Did they use that in any other games? Some expanded freefall fighting mechanics would be sweet!

I think that Marvel Super Heroes had the collapsible floors again, but the VS games didn't.

[gunm]

Value-wise, I'd think the PS2 version would be better if you don't already have a PS2 to Saturn adapter for your sticks (assuming you don't have a Saturn stick). I'd think you'd have to be a frame/pixel counter to really care which version, but again, the Saturn was made for 2D arcade conversions, while the PS2 is generally just emulation bolstered by brute force processing power (I think).

Also, I already went with the Saturn version before the compilation was available and prefer Savior enough where I don't think I'd get much use out of playing all the different versions, so I'm biased.

[Jimbo Slice]

I think that Marvel Super Heroes had the collapsible floors again, but the VS games didn't.

XvSF has one stage with the collapasible floor (the one where you're fighting on the street with cops around, it collapses into a sewer.)

By far the coolest was Spiral's though... it could break like 3 times if I remember correctly.

[BustaUppa]

yeeeeeah Spiral's was dope.
MK3 then had a similar effect with their breakable CEILINGS. I feel like that had more of an "oh shit!" factor the first time you saw it, but it didn't really blend into the gameplay in any meaningful way (other than breaking a combo after a launcher, which they fixed in UMK3).

Floor breaking mechanics of Marvel + the audiovisual "impact" of MK3 would be sick! I always thought a stage where you shatter through a glass floor (loudly!) would be neat. I guess DOA has sorta kept this tradition alive, huh? I remember DOA:U having a decent amount of "changing" stages... throwing someone out of that cathedral window was sick!!

[RelentlessRolento]

what about the bath stage in MvC? if you had a throw like Venom or spidey that threw the apponent into a wall you'd go to the next area... my fave MvC stage.

[Rodimus]

what about the bath stage in MvC? if you had a throw like Venom or spidey that threw the apponent into a wall you'd go to the next area... my fave MvC stage.

I liked that stage too. I think you started in the the mens area then broke through to the womens side. I always thought of it as an enhanced Honda stage from SFII.

[heavyd853]

There was also a stage with a collapsible floor in marvel superheroes vs streetfighter. I don't remember who's it was, but you fell from a street into a sewer.

[hankmecrankme]

XMvsSF had collapsible floors too. Makes sense, since MSHvsSF has mostly recolored stages from XMvsSF.

[RelentlessRolento]

like busta said, I think the coolest level breaks still go to UMK3. It somehow has that sense of being a badass more than the capcom games. Tekken 6 now has em, so there's something to look forward to.

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone ever play X-men Next Dimension? looks like crap but fun.

[hankmecrankme]

I played the PS1 polygonal Xmen fighter. It sucked ass. I never played any after that.

[Rodimus]

anyone ever play X-men Next Dimension? looks like crap but fun.

I liked X-Men Mutant Acdemey 1 & 2 (PS1) and even though Next Dimension was newer I remember it being a step back. Unless you got money to burn and nothing to do I'd stay away from it.

I liked them when they came out. I'm sure thay don't hold up too well now.

[djbooba]

anyone ever play X-men Next Dimension? looks like crap but fun.
Not worth the time to boot up the game unless you are a die hard X-Men fan and must play just to play. Same way I feel about most of the PS1 Dragon Ball games.

[Rodimus]

X-Men: Mutant Academy 2 had a few neat secret characters. One being Spider-Man, and another Professor X who had some wacky moves with his wheel chair. A neat little tid-bit: if Prof. X tries to do a mind grab against Juggernaut it doesn't work and Juggs decks him in the face and he rolls back. That was kinda cool.

[GuardianE]

Best Crossover Title: Pocket Fighter :bouncy:

[Cao Cao]

I think there was another Sega compilation... maybe the original Sonic Mega Collection... that actually required you to have a save file for Sonic Heroes to unlock a game at all. There was no other way. I think it was Comix Zone, so no big loss, but still. Ridiculous.

The Sonic Heroes save was the easy way of unlocking Comix Zone (and The Ooze) in Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2/Xbox). The hard way of unlocking Comix Zone, and I know this from first-hand experience was to play through every initial Genesis title in the collection 50 times EACH. Even though a "play" counts as at least seeing the Sega screen and quitting, it is quite a tedious process, as there is no visible record showing how many times you played each game, which means that you would have to keep track by hand. The only general rule you got during this process was the other unlockable games, which were unlocked by playing a certain single or duo of games 20 or 30 times each (As seen in the Copy/Paste below from GameFAQs, though Ristar is an exception, since it is unlocked by playing the other unlocked games, rather than the initially available games).

The Japanese GameCube version (Remember, Sega cut CZ and TO out of the US GC release to maintain an E rating) had a much easier process for Comix Zone and The Ooze: Just enter a button combination at a certain menu to unlock the game.

Blue Sphere Play Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic 3d Blast 20 times each.
comix zone Play the Genesis games 50 times
Flicky Play Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine 30 times.
Knuckles in Sonic 2 Play Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Sonic Spinball 20 times each.
Ristar Play Blue Sphere, Knuckles in Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and Knuckles, and Flicky 30 times each.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles Play Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles 20 times each.
The Ooze Unlock Knuckles in Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Blue Spheres, and Flicky

[Jimbo Slice]

Next Dimension was awful. I actually got it recently.

It's terrible, trust me.

That MvC stage was dope though - forgot about it. I hope Tekken 6 does it well.

[MarkMan]

So like... work keeps me from having fun nowadays... That's probably the only bad thing.

One good thing... it keeps me from spending money/shopping...

So I rebalanced my checkbook today and that shit is in the green by a lot.

And that's AFTER buying a new Elite 360, 2 x Wii Fits and some games! :bouncy:

Option A:


New Arcade Machine
New Desktop PC/Mac
New Plasma TV

Option B:


Down payment for a new car


My car runs fine as is right now, but its kind of old. I don't really care about car 'status' or whatever. As long as it works. I'll be fine with a mini van or old clunker truck (helps me tote arcade machines! haha)...

You know what's crazy? In my department, there are 5 of us. 1 guy has a Porsche Cayman S and a new 2007 R6 motorcycle, 1 guy has 4 guys including a newer BMW M3 AND a 2006/7 R6.... the other guy has a crazy limited Porsche Carrera back home in Denmark that he just sold for 200,000 USD, the other guy has a BMW X5. That's a lot of MONEY!

I just got a hooptie! I'm fuckin up the rotation! hahah

Decisions, decisions...

[BlueSwim]

The Dead Or Alive series also has very good level destruction too. Can you really beat knocking somebody out of a office building window and having them crash through a big neon sign on the way down? I THINK NOT!:lol::lol::lol:


@MarkMan - Anything from Option A. DO IT!:lol::lol::lol:

[Chacrana]

So like... work keeps me from having fun nowadays... That's probably the only bad thing.

One good thing... it keeps me from spending money/shopping...

So I rebalanced my checkbook today and that shit is in the green by a lot.

And that's AFTER buying a new Elite 360, 2 x Wii Fits and some games! :bouncy:

Option A:


New Arcade Machine
New Desktop PC/Mac
New Plasma TV

Option B:


Down payment for a new car


My car runs fine as is right now, but its kind of old. I don't really care about car 'status' or whatever. As long as it works. I'll be fine with a mini van or old clunker truck (helps me tote arcade machines! haha)...

You know what's crazy? In my department, there are 5 of us. 1 guy has a Porsche Cayman S and a new 2007 R6 motorcycle, 1 guy has 4 guys including a newer BMW M3 AND a 2006/7 R6.... the other guy has a crazy limited Porsche Carrera back home in Denmark that he just sold for 200,000 USD, the other guy has a BMW X5. That's a lot of MONEY!

I just got a hooptie! I'm fuckin up the rotation! hahah

Decisions, decisions...

Mmmhmmm... that Carerra is a nice car. My dad's got one and he won't let me drive it very often, so I should probably just steal it one of these days.

But Mayng, do you really need a new TV? I mean, you've got an XBR2 as it is, right? I don't think that's outdated enough to ditch already (although I do quite like my new plasma.)

Personally, if I were to spend the money rather than save it, I'd do the down payment on the car, but it depends on what car.

[Scorch]

I'm having a hell of a time getting xmugen working on my XBox. It's on there, characters are good, stages are set, epic battles are ready to happen.. but there's an error with joy2key and I can't figure out how to fix it. I'm close to pulling my hair out over the issue.

[Mr. Beef]

Ugh, I'm back from San Diego, and I have to say that after all the awful planning and shitty road trips and housing situations...I almost don't ever wanna go to SD ever again.

Still had hella fun, though. Went there for Brawl and Halo 3, although I did absolutely shitty in Halo 3. Got to Day 2 in the Brawl tournament though, which was some good news. Probably gonna post in my blog about the whole thing later, because I'm tired as fuck from sitting in a car for 8 hours.

[gunm]

The hell--? And here I am saying MadCatz stock has historically been bad with poor ROI. I know where de profits be goin' now, werd, lol. J/K, MM. Btw, gratz on your award! It's nice to get recognized for hard work, and even nicer to be able to work hard for something you're clearly passionate about!

[sundaysuit]

i've been getting into the fighting genre in general, with street fighter anniversary collection and vf4 evo.

i know guilty gear is good; is xx better than accent core?
i didn't like isuka much.

how's kof xi?

any other recommendations?

[gunm]

Matter of opinion, but XX is hard to beat--one of the best DC games period (at least from a technical standpoint), IMO.

I don't think Isuka was that great, either.

I didn't care for KOFXI--I'm just gonna hype up for XII.

[refusedchaos]

i've been getting into the fighting genre in general, with street fighter anniversary collection and vf4 evo.

i know guilty gear is good; is xx better than accent core?
i didn't like isuka much.

how's kof xi?

any other recommendations?

XX was great...i like AC a lil better though

kof xi is ok..wait for XII

[BlueSwim]

i've been getting into the fighting genre in general, with street fighter anniversary collection and vf4 evo.

i know guilty gear is good; is xx better than accent core?
i didn't like isuka much.

how's kof xi?

any other recommendations?

I haven't played XX or AC, but I have #Reload and it's very good....even if I still haven't figured out what I'm doing yet. :P

KOF XI is about $10 at Best Buy so I say give it a shot. Even if you don't like it, you're not out a whole lot of money.8-)

[sundaysuit]

all right, thanks.

[ninja dog]

So like... work keeps me from having fun nowadays... That's probably the only bad thing.

One good thing... it keeps me from spending money/shopping...

So I rebalanced my checkbook today and that shit is in the green by a lot.

And that's AFTER buying a new Elite 360, 2 x Wii Fits and some games! :bouncy:

Option A:


New Arcade Machine
New Desktop PC/Mac
New Plasma TV

Option B:


Down payment for a new car


My car runs fine as is right now, but its kind of old. I don't really care about car 'status' or whatever. As long as it works. I'll be fine with a mini van or old clunker truck (helps me tote arcade machines! haha)...

You know what's crazy? In my department, there are 5 of us. 1 guy has a Porsche Cayman S and a new 2007 R6 motorcycle, 1 guy has 4 guys including a newer BMW M3 AND a 2006/7 R6.... the other guy has a crazy limited Porsche Carrera back home in Denmark that he just sold for 200,000 USD, the other guy has a BMW X5. That's a lot of MONEY!

I just got a hooptie! I'm fuckin up the rotation! hahah

Decisions, decisions...


I dunno why, but I'm always surprised at the kind of money you're dropping. At first it was like..."wait, does his Tekken site really get that many hits?" :rofl:

I'd go for the car! You already have 10 of everything in category A and it sounds like you need a ride most out of everything.

[RelentlessRolento]

I say car as well. it's more an investment than the other stuff.

[JEKKI]

Option A:


New Arcade Machine
New Desktop PC/Mac
New Plasma TV

Option B:


Down payment for a new car



hay Markmang I would do option C...

a shyt load of Beard Papa and Santouka...

but in a different country, for like a whole week.

seriously.

but if u're set on those 2 then I wouldnt choose one or the other,

I would do it Xzibit style and put new games and computers and shyt inside a new car!!

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vte1hf.jpg

[JEKKI]

haha sum1 ripped this from the kool kids klub:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ5WUyqHu2U

if u didnt see it, get ready to dance

[buttasuperb]

i danced profusely.

is that first song for real? ahahaha

[kainzero]

asian pop in sf4? what the




markman: go on vacation. that's what i'm saving for...

[Rodimus]

MM, I say a car. You got enough games.

I just spent a good $1700 on my car. I hate car problems.

[akilshohen]

started off epic.....but the lyrics ruined it. Is that k, c, or j-pop

[SmallWind]

j-pop

[BustaUppa]

MM, I say a car. You got enough games.

I just spent a good $1700 on my car. I hate car problems.bahhh dude I literally had to just ditch my car in the first parking lot I could find today. Thing does NOT handle well in the snow... I was a hazard to everything around me! And I'm in this annoying twilight period where I'm REALLY close to picking up a new car, so it's pointless for me to just buy new tires NOW, ya know?

Anyway, funner things...like busta said, I think the coolest level breaks still go to UMK3. It somehow has that sense of being a badass more than the capcom games. Tekken 6 now has em, so there's something to look forward to.Fun fact - the n64 version of MK Trilogy "connected" Goro's Lair, The Armory, and The Kombat Tomb to form a three-story stage. It was a rare bit of polish in a wildly unpolished game!

[ninja dog]

If there's one thing DoA has had right, besides mammories, it's level breaks. Those shits were so impressive in DoA2. It made Tekken 3 look (i mean graphically, before you all get crazy) like a grandma with flaccid boobies.

[kainzero]

j-pop
i believe it's english

[BustaUppa]

If there's one thing DoA has had right, besides mammories, it's level breaks. Those shits were so impressive in DoA2. It made Tekken 3 look (i mean graphically, before you all get crazy) like a grandma with flaccid boobies.yeeeeeah man... I like how they used walls too. Straight-up suplexing a dude head first into the WALL always looked painful!

[MarkMan]

asian pop in sf4? what the




markman: go on vacation. that's what i'm saving for...

joeeeeeeeeeeeeeee: I would save up for vacation! But work is already taking me to UK, Hong Kong, and Japan this year. I'll probably be in Hong Kong at least 4 times this year ^_^

---

Thanks for the feedback all... I think I'm gonna sit on the money for awhile... I already put in a bunch each month towards my daughter's savings.

I went to Fry's and Best Buy today to look at TVs... Wasn't feeling anything.

[Chacrana]

Sounds like a good plan. As the resident economics/finance bastard, I have to encourage saving money every chance I get.

I'm no fun :(

[RelentlessRolento]

Sounds like a good plan. As the resident economics/finance bastard, I have to encourage saving money every chance I get.

I'm no fun :(


saving money? in my case not being paid after 4 months of working and still not getting paid due to paperwork, it's more like having money for me >_<

I do save but man the past 6 months have been harsh to me financially but superb personally.

only thing left now is to bump up my skill level.

[option.iv]

lol, bustauppa, I love your sig gif. Poor Jeff Hardy.

I too enjoyed the wall breaking in DoA. I wish they'd bring DoA to the PS3.

Also, last night, I landed my first touch of death combo with dictator. Even though it was against a meager opponent, it felt so awesome. I'm really liking Bison the more I play him. All the little additions to his game are perfect. Though I wish Bison had a solid ground anti-air. But that would probably make him broken. Also can't wait for SF4, just under a month away!

[heavyd853]

I'd say car MM, maybe find something thats hella nice on the gas mileage.


Or you could just give a wad to me, y'know for school and stuff!

[DarthPuma]

You should start a 'car fund' savings for your daughter so she can have a kickass whip when she hits 16-17 MM!

[akilshohen]

i believe it's english
yeah, J-pop in english....?

You should start a 'car fund' savings for your daughter so she can have a kickass whip when she hits 16-17 MM!
That would be epic

[PhrostByte]

You know.. I was looking through the games list on 360 yesterday, never looked through the list before. 360 actually has somewhat of a decent collection of fighters, if you include Arcade, and XBox originals. We got:

DOA4
Guilty Gear: Reload
MK vs. DC
SC1
SC4
SF: Remix
SF: HF
SS2
VF5
UMK3

soon: SF4, Tekken 6

others too

[JEKKI]

You should start a 'car fund' savings for your daughter so she can have a kickass whip when she hits 16-17 MM!nah fuck a car fund...

u should invest an XZIBIT fund!

that way u can jus give her a hand-me-down car...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/xzibit.jpg

[Chacrana]

You know.. I was looking through the games list on 360 yesterday, never looked through the list before. 360 actually has somewhat of a decent collection of fighters, if you include Arcade, and XBox originals. We got:

DOA4
Guilty Gear: Reload
MK vs. DC
SC1
SC4
SF: Remix
SF: HF
SS2
VF5
UMK3

soon: SF4, Tekken 6

others too

I only see SF Remix and VF5 on that list of good fighters... hmm...

GG is good, but Reload... nah man, gotta update!

[Mr. Beef]

Damn, finally awake. Time for some HD Remix.

[suko_32]

I never play my Battle Fantasia...

[BustaUppa]

hahahahahaha X to tha Z is crackin me up over here

[hankmecrankme]

I still need to get Battle Fantasia. . .

[Jimbo Slice]

Battle Fantasia is awesome. I still need to pick it up as well, just rented it from Gamefly when it was released. Seriously though it was awesome.

[DarthPuma]

I'm having a bitch of a time finding a madkatz stick for my dual mod or I'd get GG on 360. If anyone runs across one of those cheap at fry's I'd make hot love to you if you'd grab it for me.

[akilshohen]

I only see SF Remix and VF5 on that list of good fighters... hmm...

GG is good, but Reload... nah man, gotta update!
Maybe I know a lot of hard core people, but I know a hell of a lot of people that own Guilty Gear.
You're missing Fatal Fury :bomb:.....maybe not

[Chacrana]

Nah man, you got me wrong. I love Guilty Gear... but why bother with Reload when there's Slash, Accent Core, and Accent Core Plus?

[akilshohen]

Because we only have access to an X-BOX (at least in my case). I wish Itsuka was released over here.

[Chacrana]

Trust me, you don't. I was so excited for Isuka, and then I played it. And then, I started to wonder whether I liked video games.

[heavyd853]

Isuka is fun and decent, but its not viable as a competitive fighter.


You have to press a button to turn, and there's noticeable lag when doing so.

[SmallWind]

Yeah, Isuka was a big disappointment.

--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIZyBjE08rM

[MarkMan]

Kousaka in Genshiken likes Isuka X_X

[RelentlessRolento]

I played Isuka for a day and sold it the day after. really made me hate GG in a away I wish I didn't... at least the series is still a fighter right? right???

http://teragames.com.mx/Tera/images/stories/Noticias/Microsoft/GuiltyGearII_Overture/Guilty_Gear_2_Overture.jpg

[buttasuperb]

guilty gear has always been average at best to me.

[MarkMan]

I played Isuka for a day and sold it the day after. really made me hate GG in a away I wish I didn't... at least the series is still a fighter right? right???

http://teragames.com.mx/Tera/images/stories/Noticias/Microsoft/GuiltyGearII_Overture/Guilty_Gear_2_Overture.jpg

Speaking of which, how is the game? Did you play through the one we sent out to you?

[Jimbo Slice]

Speaking of which, how is the game? Did you play through the one we sent out to you?

Was thinking the same thing. Wondering if it's worth a Gamefly rental.

[heavyd853]

At least the Guilty Gear art is consistently good.

[RelentlessRolento]

Speaking of which, how is the game? Did you play through the one we sent out to you?


:lol: I haven't even gotten it yet >_<

[Rodimus]

Isuka sounds good on paper, but it was simply un-fun.

BTW that GG box art makes me gay.

[MarkMan]

:lol: I haven't even gotten it yet >_<

What?! I sent it out like 4 weeks ago, to the address you emailed me ! X_X

I sent it via priority USPS X_X ... well.. that sucks.

Let me ask my Aksys contact if I can grab some more games from him, cuz thats not right! :bomb:

[RelentlessRolento]

What?! I sent it out like 4 weeks ago, to the address you emailed me ! X_X

I sent it via priority USPS X_X ... well.. that sucks.

Let me ask my Aksys contact if I can grab some more games from him, cuz thats not right! :bomb:


yeah I thought it was weird I didn't get it, but no worries. Don't stress out over it. If it got lost I'm fine with it being that way so don't add more to your already full plate of things you do >_<

I'm fine with just knowing I won :lol:

[ninja dog]

Guilty Gear Judgment fixed the turn button problem that was in the other GG side-scroller mode (boost mode?) 4 player battles just proved that you can't just make a 2 player fighter a 4 player fighter.

Speaking of which, did people hype up 4 player fighters when you guys were growing up? Around here it was always like "Dude, my friend's uncle's lawyer's janitor's stepchild is a mailroom boy at Capcom USA and he said SF3 was gonna be 4 players with fatalities."

[refusedchaos]

Was thinking the same thing. Wondering if it's worth a Gamefly rental.

it feels liek dynasty warriors to me but less boring

[Chacrana]

Guilty Gear Judgment fixed the turn button problem that was in the other GG side-scroller mode (boost mode?) 4 player battles just proved that you can't just make a 2 player fighter a 4 player fighter.

Speaking of which, did people hype up 4 player fighters when you guys were growing up? Around here it was always like "Dude, my friend's uncle's lawyer's janitor's stepchild is a mailroom boy at Capcom USA and he said SF3 was gonna be 4 players with fatalities."

People hyped the shit out of NBA Shootout '98. That's... about it.

[Mr. Beef]

The only hype I heard ever about 4-players was for older games, like arcade X-Men, and arcade TMNT.

[Rodimus]

I remember before X-Men CotA me and my friends fantisized about a Marvel Comics fighting games. We picked the characters, created a move list, drew picstures and everything. Then I think we mailed it to Capcom. Bastards took my idea and ran with it.

[akilshohen]

Remember in grade school one of my friends said that there was gonna be DC vs Capcom vs Marvel, and that it got canceled because DC had no characters and wanted Marvel and Capcom to put some of their characters on the DC side.

[Jimbo Slice]

Remember in grade school one of my friends said that there was gonna be DC vs Capcom vs Marvel, and that it got canceled because DC had no characters and wanted Marvel and Capcom to put some of their characters on the DC side.

HAHAHAHAHA

I love Dynasty Warriors games so I'll have to check out GG2.

[asianxcore]

Markman, what is the best PS2---> Saturn converter and is it readily available.

All this talk about the Vs. games makes me want to dust off my Japanese Saturn.

[ninja dog]

Been listening to the Dreamcast retrospective on Retronauts and aside from gushing SC love (what DC owner doesn't love that game), there is a disturbing lack of fighter talk. I was happy to hear praise for Zombie's Revenge though. I might rebuy a DC just for that game

[suko_32]

HAHAHAHAHA

I love Dynasty Warriors games so I'll have to check out GG2.

I may have to as well.

[BustaUppa]

Speaking of which, did people hype up 4 player fighters when you guys were growing up? Around here it was always like "Dude, my friend's uncle's lawyer's janitor's stepchild is a mailroom boy at Capcom USA and he said SF3 was gonna be 4 players with fatalities."Hahaha, well there was a Street Fighter Rainbow Edition hack at a local collectibles store... it had an amaterish "Street Fighter III" marquee made up for it, in a generic font. The guy at the store reassured me that this REALLY was, in fact, the real Street Fighter III, and for some reason I accepted this as gospel truth (despite the actual title screen clearly reading "Street Fighter II"). I like called a bunch of my friends and told them about it afterwards, lol.

I also flipped when I saw screenshots of UMK3... they showed one of a 2 vs. 2 match, and I flipped because I assumed it was actual 4-player gameplay (instead of just an "endurance match" type of deal).

[Mr. Beef]

Didn't the Alpha series have the "Dynamic Battle" or something like similar that was basically a 2-on-1 match? I remember playing that mode, but I forgot if it was in Alpha, or not.

[Rei no Otaku]

HAHAHAHAHA

I love Dynasty Warriors games so I'll have to check out GG2.
GG2 is a lot of fun. It plays kind of like the Empires version of the DW games since you have to capture checkpoints along each map.
Didn't the Alpha series have the "Dynamic Battle" or something like similar that was basically a 2-on-1 match? I remember playing that mode, but I forgot if it was in Alpha, or not.
Alpha 3 had it. In the PS1 version you could only use certain characters. Like Ryu, Ken, and one other or Juli, Juni, and one other. The DC version let you use any 3.

[BustaUppa]

Didn't the Alpha series have the "Dynamic Battle" or something like similar that was basically a 2-on-1 match? I remember playing that mode, but I forgot if it was in Alpha, or not.You are a correct... they called it "Dramatic Battle" in Alpha 3. You had a limited selection of characters (I think you had to pick a Ryu/Ken team of Juli/Juni) and you would do a series of survivor matches. I forget if this was single player, two-player, or both... it might have changed between the PS1 and Dreamcast home versions.

They actually had a version of this in the arcade version of Alpha ONE, accessible via some sort of code. Two human players would fight Bison simultaneously, and I think the game just ended after that.


EDIT: ^^^ gahhh, beaten!

[Rei no Otaku]

I forget if this was single player, two-player, or both...

It was both. A few battles in the world tour mode were against the Ryu/Ken or Juli/Juni team.

[BlueSwim]

FGT, I'm having trouble making up my mind and I need some help. I'm trying to decide whether or not I should pick up the SFIV FightPad or wait and see if I can get my hands on a (retail priced) TE stick, if it is indeed going back into production. I didn't reserve a TE, so I'm not assured of getting a TE stick even if I budget for it. WWFGTD? What would the Fight Game Thread do?:-k:-k:-k

[Mr. Beef]

I would get the FightPad. But then again, I'm a pad scrub.

[BustaUppa]

FGT, I'm having trouble making up my mind and I need some help. I'm trying to decide whether or not I should pick up the SFIV FightPad or wait and see if I can get my hands on a (retail priced) TE stick, if it is indeed going back into production. I didn't reserve a TE, so I'm not assured of getting a TE stick even if I budget for it. WWFGTD? What would the Fight Game Thread do?:-k:-k:-kWould you say you have a PREFERENCE for sticks, or are they more of a curiosity? And if you do prefer sticks... are you experienced more in the Japanese style or the American style? These are important things to consider!

If you've ALWAYS used a pad, then the fightpad is probably the best option. On the other hand if you prefer joysticks, but have always played on AMERICAN sticks, I'd say it's a tossup. I remember this stick I got back in the PS1 days always felt "wrong" to me, even though it got the job done... I realized later that it was a Japanese-style stick, so the square gate and everything was throwing me off! Japanese sticks are great, but the "feel" of them is a matter of preference... so just make sure you invest in something that will FEEL right! And if you ARE, in fact, used to Japanese sticks then I'd say this investment is absolutely worth it.

[Zmonkay]

On a related note:
I'm def. going with a FightPad, but is there a cheap, effective way to buy one pad and use it on all 3 systems? 360's is wired, so that takes care of PC and 360, but is there an adapter for PS3? I wonder if, even though it's wireless, if the PS3 pad can be used on a PC just like the normal PS3 controller, if you use the USB for charging it.

[RelentlessRolento]

360 fightpad for me... I play too many games on the 360 that use the d-pad only/mainly so I need one, no question.

[GuardianE]

Buy the pad. Then buy the TE Fightstick.

You can always use the pad for your friends, when they come over for Street Fighter matches. That way, they can't complain and blame the 360's crappy d-pad.

[Chacrana]

Been listening to the Dreamcast retrospective on Retronauts and aside from gushing SC love (what DC owner doesn't love that game), there is a disturbing lack of fighter talk. I was happy to hear praise for Zombie's Revenge though. I might rebuy a DC just for that game

WHAT? Zombie Revenge?

Sorry, but all you need to remember about that game is 'bullets. bullets. bullets. bullets." No need to go nuts and actually play the thing again.

[SmallWind]

On a related note:
I'm def. going with a FightPad, but is there a cheap, effective way to buy one pad and use it on all 3 systems? 360's is wired, so that takes care of PC and 360, but is there an adapter for PS3There's a converter for the PS3 called XCM Cross Battle that makes a wired 360 controller usable on a PS3. MM should have a review of the adapter soon.

[RelentlessRolento]

mamesj, if you want zombie revenge I got a disc only copy.

[RelentlessRolento]

what is this? I'm intrigued:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prp6i4RHIcs

[Chacrana]

I remember that game. It's like.. the coolest lookin fighter you'll never want to play. Definitely looks legit tho.

[RelentlessRolento]

where the hell do I find it? might dig up it on ebay.

[Jimbo Slice]

where the hell do I find it? might dig up it on ebay.

It's import only for PS1.

[kainzero]

i had a match yesterday in HD that basically came down to us with no health. i was ken, he was guile, he knocked me down in the corner and threw a sonic boom. for whatever reason, he walked forward, and since i was gonna die on block damage i mashed out a reversal SRK... which proceeded to hit him and win the round for me.

he must've been so mad after that.

FGT, I'm having trouble making up my mind and I need some help. I'm trying to decide whether or not I should pick up the SFIV FightPad or wait and see if I can get my hands on a (retail priced) TE stick, if it is indeed going back into production. I didn't reserve a TE, so I'm not assured of getting a TE stick even if I budget for it. WWFGTD? What would the Fight Game Thread do?:-k:-k:-k
any reason it has to be a TE stick? i'm pretty sure that the regular stick would be just fine anyway.

[Mr. Beef]

Reversal attacks are the greatest. I once got a wake-up super with Tony Hawk against Akuma. :lol:

[BlueSwim]

Would you say you have a PREFERENCE for sticks, or are they more of a curiosity? And if you do prefer sticks... are you experienced more in the Japanese style or the American style? These are important things to consider!

If you've ALWAYS used a pad, then the fightpad is probably the best option. On the other hand if you prefer joysticks, but have always played on AMERICAN sticks, I'd say it's a tossup. I remember this stick I got back in the PS1 days always felt "wrong" to me, even though it got the job done... I realized later that it was a Japanese-style stick, so the square gate and everything was throwing me off! Japanese sticks are great, but the "feel" of them is a matter of preference... so just make sure you invest in something that will FEEL right! And if you ARE, in fact, used to Japanese sticks then I'd say this investment is absolutely worth it.I grew up playing fighting games on a pad, but I've also been using a stick the last several years for fighting games in the previous generation of systems. I've also been using both the analog stick on the 360 controller and an EX2 that I picked up last year for fighting games.

I'm not hurting for another stick. I do however play a lot of fighting games so I figured that the TE would last me this generation of systems when it comes to arcade sticks.


any reason it has to be a TE stick? i'm pretty sure that the regular stick would be just fine anyway.I'm just thinking that the TE being the only stick I'd need for the rest of this hardware generation. One big(by game standards) investment to last several years.:D

Buy the pad. Then buy the TE Fightstick.

You can always use the pad for your friends, when they come over for Street Fighter matches. That way, they can't complain and blame the 360's crappy d-pad.This idea.....I'm liking it! Hehehe....;)

Thank you all for the input!!!:applause::applause::applause: I'm going to reserve the Pad the next time I go to GS. If I'm able to pick up the TE somewhere down the line, that's awesome too.:D

[BustaUppa]

sounds like a plan! If your other stick was an EX2... you may as well upgrade to it's super-badass bigger brother!

[kainzero]

sounds like a plan! If your other stick was an EX2... you may as well upgrade to it's super-badass bigger brother!
i still like the EX2

even though i have a fully modded HRAP1

yay EX2

[PhrostByte]

So, I think I'll make my first owned XBox game - SFAC. Anyone wanna play me online when I get it?

[asianxcore]

So, I think I'll make my first owned XBox game - SFAC. Anyone wanna play me online when I get it?

You missed the window when SFAC was first announced as BC for 360. During the time a bunch of us in here played it online non-stop.

Since then GGPO showed up

[PhrostByte]

You missed the window when SFAC was first announced as BC for 360. During the time a bunch of us in here played it online non-stop.

Since then GGPO showed up

I probably didn't have a 360 back then. And, yeah I sometimes play GGPO but I'd like to give XBL a shot just for fun. I like talking on the mic as I get my ass beat in fighters. :D

[depascal22]

I'll play ya, Phrost.

[jer7583]

So, I thought I was a pretty good chun player.

Then I go in this player match and this guy shows up playing Ken and Akuma, mostly.

Cross up medium kick with Ken, then duck light kicks into fierce DP.

I have no fucking idea how Chun can counter that crossup medium kick except not be near it. It was 90% of what he did and I won about half the time but it was always frustrating as fuck. Any tips?

Her normal AA neutral jump LK, standing MP, standing MK, or jump neutral HK did nothing. I tried not to be in that situation, but he was so fucking good at that shenanigan that I was locked down half the time. He wasn't even using Knee traps, just that fucking move over and over..

[BustaUppa]

what would he go for if you managed to block the initial crossup? tick throw?
my first reaction was to ask if you tried her up kicks special move, but I imagine that Ken player must have been hitting meatily enough so that he would snuff it right out, hmmm....

[PhrostByte]

Why can't you just block and kikoken when you recover?

[Zmonkay]

There's a converter for the PS3 called XCM Cross Battle that makes a wired 360 controller usable on a PS3. MM should have a review of the adapter soon.

oh right, I forgot about that. Nice, hopefully it'll be relatively cheap (~10-15, instead of 40 for an extra FightPad)

[jer7583]

Why can't you just block and kikoken when you recover?

Yeah I thought but when that jump in MK hits so far behind in a cross up, even if I guess right and block the opossite way, he's doing low LKs rapid fire and I'm locked down again.

Unless I have a few frames for reversal there, but it seemed almost instant after that jump in hits.

And upkicks get eaten because that MK has such a weird, forward extending hitbox. If I was able to back up, chun's standing MK might counter it, but it might be even trade and he's right back at the distance to jump in again.

[PhrostByte]

Yeah I thought but when that jump in MK hits so far behind in a cross up, even if I guess right and block the opossite way, he's doing low LKs rapid fire and I'm locked down again.

Unless I have a few frames for reversal there, but it seemed almost instant after that jump in hits.

Well, I'm about to head out for a couple hours.. but if you want later, you can pick Ken and I'll pick Chun and I'll try to figure it out.

[jer7583]

Well, I'm about to head out for a couple hours.. but if you want later, you can pick Ken and I'll pick Chun and I'll try to figure it out.

Thx, I was going to go into practice mode and check out the hitboxes exactly later.

It's just so, so frustrating when you think you're good against a character and then someone destroys you with shenanigans like that over and over again.

I still suck against vega. I need to learn how to counter his wall jumps and stuff. He's such a goofy character.

On the plus side I have a much better time against Guile and Blanka now.

[option.iv]

For chun, I think you'd have to do her spinning bird kick (charge back, forward + kick). She has invincibility frames on it, moreso than the up kicks, and it gets her out further horizontally. You should be able to do it since it seems all he did was jump in and attack at the same depth and time.

The best thing to do though is to avoid a knockdown with proper spacing and zoning with her fb. I've always had trouble once I was knocked down as a charge character.

[jer7583]

yeah true, most of those succeeded best when he was coming in on a knockdown.

Thanks for the help, it was just a major hole in my game that came to light last time I played.

I hate playing shotos as chun anyway ;)

[BustaUppa]

For chun, I think you'd have to do her spinning bird kick (charge back, forward + kick). She has invincibility frames on it, moreso than the up kicks, and it gets her out further horizontally. You should be able to do it since it seems all he did was jump in and attack at the same depth and time.

The best thing to do though is to avoid a knockdown with proper spacing and zoning with her fb. I've always had trouble once I was knocked down as a charge character.I was wondering how a crossup affects a "horizontal" charge. To properly deal with a crossup, would you need to charge forward? And once the jumping opponent crosses your axis, would all your forward charge time then count towards your "back" charge, allowing you to hit the new forward position + attack immediately?

Or would your old charge be disregarded once the axis flips? In that case I guess your only option would be to charge back, normally, then just try and piano your attack and hope it registers as soon as the axis flips (turning your back charge into a forward input)?

It's hard to explain what I'm asking but I hope I'm doing a decent job!

[MarkMan]

Best Buy website had the TE sticks for preorder this morning... I don't know if any are left, but its worth a look if you're tryint to get one!

[Chacrana]

I placed a pre-order for one and it went through just fine, so we'll see. I dunno that I'll keep the preorder, but Lord knows I want to.

I probably will. I'm thinkin' about it, and I'm realizing that this is probably one of those times like back in 1998 where I had a choice between getting something that I knew was gonna be super dope, or just ignoring it and letting it become really hard to find, and then regretting the fuck out of my decision. I don't wanna do that now.

[egan311]

Thanks for the heads up, MarkMan.

[PhrostByte]

What happened in 98? Btw, jer I'm about to hop on so if you want to play, hollar.

[JEKKI]

Denjin Arcade has BlazBlue for only a quarter now!!

\\:D/

that's 80 credits for $20! a pretty good deal imo.

I hope they dont have a tournament on saturday, there's small talk about it rite now but funk that I only wanna play, not sit around and wait on foolz only to get in one game.

[kainzero]

I have no fucking idea how Chun can counter that crossup medium kick except not be near it. It was 90% of what he did and I won about half the time but it was always frustrating as fuck. Any tips?

Her normal AA neutral jump LK, standing MP, standing MK, or jump neutral HK did nothing. I tried not to be in that situation, but he was so fucking good at that shenanigan that I was locked down half the time. He wasn't even using Knee traps, just that fucking move over and over..
Chun has a retarded tiny hitbox and I miss my crossups on her more often than other people

Just walk forward and throw when he lands

[jer7583]

Finishing gears2 co op with roommate, sorry phrostbyte, some other time!

[Mr. Beef]

Chun has a retarded tiny hitbox and I miss my crossups on her more often than other people

Just walk forward and throw when he lands
That's Chun's damned solution to everything: throw them.

[BlueSwim]

I placed a pre-order for one and it went through just fine, so we'll see. I dunno that I'll keep the preorder, but Lord knows I want to.

I probably will. I'm thinkin' about it, and I'm realizing that this is probably one of those times like back in 1998 where I had a choice between getting something that I knew was gonna be super dope, or just ignoring it and letting it become really hard to find, and then regretting the fuck out of my decision. I don't wanna do that now.
How much did you have to put down?

[option.iv]

I was wondering how a crossup affects a "horizontal" charge. To properly deal with a crossup, would you need to charge forward? And once the jumping opponent crosses your axis, would all your forward charge time then count towards your "back" charge, allowing you to hit the new forward position + attack immediately?

Or would your old charge be disregarded once the axis flips? In that case I guess your only option would be to charge back, normally, then just try and piano your attack and hope it registers as soon as the axis flips (turning your back charge into a forward input)?

It's hard to explain what I'm asking but I hope I'm doing a decent job!
You know, I'm not exactly sure about that. I'm pretty sure that the player doesn't turn around instantly once someone crosses up. And I'm not entirely sure the defending player loses their horizontal charge instantly. I'm thinking they lose it once the attacking player lands behind them, but I'd like to test this out.

If you do lose your horizontal charge because of the crossup, I'd think the only solution would be to down charge and try to get your vertical spinning kick out. The timing of the vertical is a lot harder though. The invincible frames aren't as great as the horizontal one. You could always walk forward, but you can't do so when you are knocked down and they are crossing up on your wake up.

If someone more familiar with the ST system can enlighten us, that would be cool.

Though what I usually do with Sagat after a knockdown, I simply jump behind them as they get up. I notice that almost all the time they score a reversal, their vertical attack is facing the same way they get up. So I would assume horizontal charge is preserved a good couple of frames after the attacking player lands.

If this is the case, you can either SBK out or if they land behind you early, mash reversal throw.

[GuardianE]

How much did you have to put down?

Since it's an online order, I'd assume zero dollars.

[Chacrana]

Yeah, it was online so there's really no commitment at all. Interestingly, the site said that the stick could ship as soon as February 3rd, which'd be ballin', but I duno if that's really going to happen. Though it'd be nice.

I dunno, though... I figured that I like Remix enough that I'd get my money's worth from that game alone, and factoring in the upcoming stuff like Blaz Blue and KOF XII, I'm definitely going to get a lot of use out of the stick outside of SF IV. It's still tough to drop that much $$ on a controller, but eh... looking at the release calendar, there's not a whole lot to save that money for anyway... after playing stuff like Far Cry 2, I'm starting to realize that really, you're better off not listening to reviews when your gut tells you something's amiss.

[hankmecrankme]

Reviews are definitely just an opinion of a game's quality, not fact by any means. Once you know that, and you realize that most reviewers either hate on games for no reason or suck off games that don't deserve it, the better off you will be. I trust my friends more than any pro reviewer.

I know what I like. Well, I should after gaming for this long. So I usually just trust my instincts, watch videos, and try to gleam FACTS from reviews as well as opinions, but I don't let a bad review completely damn a game. I can do that myself. ;)

Also, TE stick will be so worth it when I'm using it on like every fighter. PC support too, don't forget that. It's the best PC and 360 stick you can buy without having to go custom. I'll be playing some Melty Blood Act Cadenza Ver. B on it for sho'.

[PhrostByte]

I was thinking.. how can an arcade stick work as an analog stick? I thought an arcade stick is all or nothing.. like you move the stick far enough to the right, and [Right] registers. It can't be used on games that actually require the precision of an analog stick right, to do wave-type motions I mean? Like let's say for example.. Rez?

[Chacrana]

What I do love about it (and thanks for this Markman) is that you basically don't have to do anything to it to have the thing up to spec. Like, the HRAP 3's buttons suck. They're really, really bad. And while it's not difficult, it's kinda annoying to have to buy new buttons from the get go and swap 'em out. I'm glad I don't hafta do that here.

Also, hank, if you're playing MB online, you'll lose to me again, even with a better stick. You may be able to destroy me at SFII, but you don't stand a chance when Nvnqsrsrs is involved!!!!

[Chacrana]

I was thinking.. how can an arcade stick work as an analog stick? I thought an arcade stick is all or nothing.. like you move the stick far enough to the right, and [Right] registers. It can't be used on games that actually require the precision of an analog stick right, to do wave-type motions I mean? Like let's say for example.. Rez?

I always thought it was just 8 directions... :-k. I can't see it working for anything else without feeling really ghetto. Who knows.

[BlueSwim]

Since it's an online order, I'd assume zero dollars.FINALLY! A Price I can afford! XP
Yeah, it was online so there's really no commitment at all. Interestingly, the site said that the stick could ship as soon as February 3rd, which'd be ballin', but I duno if that's really going to happen. Though it'd be nice.

I dunno, though... I figured that I like Remix enough that I'd get my money's worth from that game alone, and factoring in the upcoming stuff like Blaz Blue and KOF XII, I'm definitely going to get a lot of use out of the stick outside of SF IV. It's still tough to drop that much $$ on a controller, but eh... looking at the release calendar, there's not a whole lot to save that money for anyway... after playing stuff like Far Cry 2, I'm starting to realize that really, you're better off not listening to reviews when your gut tells you something's amiss.
I really want to pre-order, but there is no way I can have the money for it if it does indeed ship on the 3rd. Just when I make up my mind, I have MORE thinking to do.:cry::cry::cry:

Thank you both for the answers.8-)8-)8-)

[hankmecrankme]

What I do love about it (and thanks for this Markman) is that you basically don't have to do anything to it to have the thing up to spec. Like, the HRAP 3's buttons suck. They're really, really bad. And while it's not difficult, it's kinda annoying to have to buy new buttons from the get go and swap 'em out. I'm glad I don't hafta do that here.

Also, hank, if you're playing MB online, you'll lose to me again, even with a better stick. You may be able to destroy me at SFII, but you don't stand a chance when Nvnqsrsrs is involved!!!!

Yeah, modding isn't hard. But I like being able to take it out of that sexy ass box and just plug it in and go.

And yeah, you'll still beat me in MB. I haven't played in like months. Nvnqsrsrs. . . :bomb::bomb::bomb:

[SmallWind]

f you're playing MB online, you'll lose to me again, even with a better stick. You may be able to destroy me at SFII, but you don't stand a chance when Nvnqsrsrs is involved!!!!So, you're gonna be c,c,c,c,c,c'ing all day.

[kainzero]

Like, the HRAP 3's buttons suck. They're really, really bad.
That's a bit harsh, they're not bad at all. Installing Sanwa buttons feels better but execution is the same.

[Chacrana]

That's a bit harsh, they're not bad at all. Installing Sanwa buttons feels better but execution is the same.

Alright, it might be a bit harsh, but I really don't like the feel of them. I was fine with it when I had the Tekken stick and all that, but I really don't like using that thing now that I'm used to the more solid feel of the Sanwa buttons. It's just one of those things - use something nice for long enough and you'll become a snob.

[MarkMan]

Joe there is a big difference between the HRAP1vA buttons and all the HRAPs onwards X_X

They feel nasty (especially noticeable on the HRAP3 and HRAP2)

yowz

The HRAP1vA buttons feel REALLY nice compared to normal Hori buttons (T5 stick)...

[BlueSwim]

IGN Gear has reviewed (http://gear.ign.com/articles/946/946596p1.html) the FightPads. Overall: 8.7/10

[Chacrana]

IGN Gear has reviewed (http://gear.ign.com/articles/946/946596p1.html) the FightPads. Overall: 8.7/10

we would have liked a little more resistance from the buttons to really let our tactile senses know that we were giving the controller all of our fury.

This complain in their review is why I'll buy the thing. You don't want resistance - you want the fucking thing to work; that's what almost every pad in the last decade has gotten wrong.

Point is, I'll be chipping in a little more towards your Vewlix, MM.

[DarthPuma]

I don't really like the HRAP3 buttons. They just feel weird compared to any cab I've ever played on. I'll mod it eventually.

Just a few more weeks till SF4. I think I'll be taking that tuesday off from school, and that weekend off from life.

[MarkMan]

/shrug, their opinions were noted though.


I don't know if anyone noticed, our buttons on the FightPad are slightly larger than that on current gen controllers. This gives it better spacing AND more room to hit. Feels much more natural than trying to cramp your fingers to a confined space.

Works well for thumb style or claw style players.

And I didn't post this here yet, I don't think, but here is a size comparison for the FightPads...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/3072388914_e5504ef64f.jpg

[Mr. Beef]

I never got why they would make the top row of buttons smaller than the rest. Am I missing something?

Chun pad looks just right to me. Are there triggers on the top of the controller too, or just the six-buttons?

[MarkMan]

There are triggers as well.

And for the Saturn pad, I don't know why they did different sized buttons either...

[heavyd853]

Hrap1 button's are damn sexy, I haven't had a chance to see the 2 and 3 ones, but if they're anything like the FS3's they must be complete ass.

[Chacrana]

1Up article on TE stick:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172420

[JEKKI]

You don't want resistance - you want the fucking thing to work; yah but it's IGN, and they like resistance.

they gave Resistance 2 a 9.5

o yah, I saw this lolvatar on gaf:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/XavierGarcia/Own%20things/threi_guile.jpg

[Mr. Beef]

WTFeej? Why is Guile a duck?

[kainzero]

Joe there is a big difference between the HRAP1vA buttons and all the HRAPs onwards X_X

They feel nasty (especially noticeable on the HRAP3 and HRAP2)

yowz

The HRAP1vA buttons feel REALLY nice compared to normal Hori buttons (T5 stick)...
actually i was thinking of my EX2 buttons.

i like the EX2 even though i hated it at first =)

[JEKKI]

WTFeej? Why is Guile a duck?that's Quackerjack.

that's what makes it so funny, it's hella random for no reason

[Chacrana]

Oh shit, America's Best Dance Crew is on tonight. I wasn't that big on season 2, but the groups this time around are legit. And seeing Din Da Da used made me really happy last week.

More importantly, I'm getting on XBL so if anyone wants ta throw down...

[jer7583]

So i went and looked at STHDR Ken's jump in MK hitbox.. it's got some funky thing where for a frame or two it's directly under him, then moves to cover the whole forward leg. That's what was catching, it wasn't the leg, it was the under his ass part that hits directly before the leg..

I dunno what to do about it still, but at least I know.. haha.

[jer7583]

Ha! MarkMan's true identity exposed by 1UP!

[MarkMan]

Ha! MarkMan's true identity exposed by 1UP!

What! No way! No one can find me out.



---

box porn too

http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/9...73/imgs_1.html (http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/947/947573/imgs_1.html)

[heavyd853]

So i went and looked at STHDR Ken's jump in MK hitbox.. it's got some funky thing where for a frame or two it's directly under him, then moves to cover the whole forward leg. That's what was catching, it wasn't the leg, it was the under his ass part that hits directly before the leg..

I dunno what to do about it still, but at least I know.. haha.

Crossup to crouching MP son!

MK works too but it doesn't combo as easily, meaning people on top of their game will fuck you up with a throw.

Ken's cross up is evil, especially in 3s.

How good is it in SFIV though?

[PhrostByte]

Anyone have a copy of Street Fighter Anniversary Collection for XBox they want to get rid of? Will trade or buy.

[Jest]

You make dreams come true MarkMan.


Q: Are the buttons on the pads as convex as the 360 pad or more flat like the DS3?

[MarkMan]

Flat...

[Nelo Ice]

just saw this on gaf part 2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U

[MarkMan]

Anyone going to get the 360 SF4 faceplates/skinz?

You can see one pictured here:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3219152066_117a5ed5fa_o.jpg

[Nelo Ice]

how much is the faceplate!? also does it come in black?

[PhrostByte]

Oh my god! Oh my god! $$$$a hit him with the Sicily, the middle of Italy $$$$a!

[jer7583]

faceplate get!

But from where??

[MarkMan]

Check your local EB Games/GameStops during launch... there are two designs for 360 faceplates and PS3 skinz/faceplate (yes I said faceplate)!

[heavyd853]

I'm glad the marvel community here isn't that annoying.

Although I'm sure its more funny when you're actually there.

[Jimbo Slice]

Check your local EB Games/GameStops during launch... there are two designs for 360 faceplates and PS3 skinz/faceplate (yes I said faceplate)!

:drool: looks great man. Will definately be getting the faceplate/skin...

[Mr. Beef]

Good games, option. I absolutely love Sagat matches, no matter what the outcome, and I have no clue why. Everytime I see a Sagat as my opponent, I'm like a Saiyan, and I'm all like, "holy shit, this is gonna be fun."

WTFeej happened after that break you had, though? I was doing great before, then you leave, eat some spinach or channel JEKKI or something, and you're beating my ass! I couldn't even Storm Hammer you no more! GGs though, still hella fun times.

[BlueSwim]

Everytime I see a Sagat as my opponent, I'm like a Saiyan, and I'm all like, "holy shit, this is gonna be fun."
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[JEKKI]

box porn too

http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/9...73/imgs_1.html (http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/947/947573/imgs_1.html)


oh shyt! dick in a box!!

speaking of box...

boxcuttuhz :cry:

[option.iv]

Good games, option. I absolutely love Sagat matches, no matter what the outcome, and I have no clue why. Everytime I see a Sagat as my opponent, I'm like a Saiyan, and I'm all like, "holy shit, this is gonna be fun."

WTFeej happened after that break you had, though? I was doing great before, then you leave, eat some spinach or channel JEKKI or something, and you're beating my ass! I couldn't even Storm Hammer you no more! GGs though, still hella fun times.
My Sagat could barely hang with your Tony Hawk. After the break I tried mashing throws like no other. I almost bust a gut trying to keep it up. GGs man, that was a crap load of games we played.

[kainzero]

i knew that SF4 intro sounded familiar. it's from exile.

and exile did the song from sorimachi takashi's (the guy in my icon) last j-drama. as well as sorimachi's other j-drama hotman and hotman 2.

...

hi guys!

[Nelo Ice]

oh shyt! dick in a box!!

speaking of box...

boxcuttuhz :cry:

they were eliminated!?

[Mr. Beef]

Yeah, mashing throws seems to work against my Hawk. It explains Chun's gameplan against me to a tee. I had to rely on the Super Hammer against you, since that's pretty much the only thing I can do that I can't be reliably thrown out of.

Man, I'm so hyped for the upcoming months. SFIV, then Anime Expo, then Evo2k9 (with some KoFXII there as a possibility, I hope). My wallet is never going to forgive me.

[asianxcore]

Yipes commentary is only half good (last half) in that video :)

Sorry if I'm 'cade stick nazi, but I can't see trying to do Abel's shit in SFIV without looking like a complete tard-bot on a pad. Especially Cr. FP---->Ultra

[option.iv]

Once you are able to outspace me with your ticks, you'd prolly own me easy. Just take advantage of his command throw's range.

[Jimbo Slice]

Off-topic, but I just finished Ninja Gaiden 2.

What crap. One of the most poorly designed games I've ever played.

[akilshohen]

Off-topic, but I just finished Ninja Gaiden 2.

What crap. One of the most poorly designed games I've ever played.
The level in russia was horrible and made me sell the game. Please tell me it gets better.

Is everyone playing MvC2 from NY or something?

[heavyd853]

Yipes commentary is only half good (last half) in that video :)

Sorry if I'm 'cade stick nazi, but I can't see trying to do Abel's shit in SFIV without looking like a complete tard-bot on a pad. Especially Cr. FP---->Ultra

Shoulder buttons, son!

But yeah, I probably will keep my pad SFIV'ing to a minimum.

[GuardianE]

Off-topic, but I just finished Ninja Gaiden 2.

What crap. One of the most poorly designed games I've ever played.

It's a complete mess compared to Ninja Gaiden, NG: Black, and NG:Sigma.

[Jimbo Slice]

It's a complete mess compared to Ninja Gaiden, NG: Black, and NG:Sigma.

Agreed. Seriously every boss is so throw happy it's annoying. Like you're kicking ass, dodging all his moves then WHAM you're hit with a throw and half your life is gone.

Also, Akilsoshen, I used to play at University Pinball in Philly. There is a great Marvel scene there. NYC still has a scene, and I'm sure Nor/So California does.

[Jimbo Slice]

Anyone up for some SFHD (360) around 2:30 PM EST (AKA ~3 hours from now)? I should be back from teaching by then....

[hankmecrankme]

I'll probably be up for some HD Remix by then. I still want to get a FGT room going sometime.

[Jimbo Slice]

I'll probably be up for some HD Remix by then. I still want to get a FGT room going sometime.

Hopefully we can get in some lagless matches!

[hankmecrankme]

Yeah, hopefully. Lately I've been having problems just connecting, or getting booted out of parties and games. I think I might need to upgrade this cheapass router I have.

[kainzero]

one of these days i will find the HD community that knows how to block crossups, then i can actually play good games

[akuma001]

Yipes commentary is only half good (last half) in that video :)

Sorry if I'm 'cade stick nazi, but I can't see trying to do Abel's shit in SFIV without looking like a complete tard-bot on a pad. Especially Cr. FP---->Ultra

i dunno how anybody will do fadc ultra on pad especially stock system pads.

when i do it with stick i use my middle finger and thumb on the mp and mk and have pointer/middle/ring ready to ultra. how the hell do you do that on pad?

and i know switching from multi button stuff like teching throws to ex whatever will be a bitch.

haha, i'm just thinking ahead on how i will play if my local gamestop has a sf4 midnight launch tourney thing and we are forced to use the stock pads for whatever system the game is played on. i don't wanna be forced to doing jump in hk to crouching hk all night haha.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Yeah, hopefully. Lately I've been having problems just connecting, or getting booted out of parties and games. I think I might need to upgrade this cheapass router I have.

Your Router is the king of all routers.

[BustaUppa]

i dunno how anybody will do fadc ultra on pad especially stock system pads.

when i do it with stick i use my middle finger and thumb on the mp and mk and have pointer/middle/ring ready to ultra. how the hell do you do that on pad?

and i know switching from multi button stuff like teching throws to ex whatever will be a bitch.

haha, i'm just thinking ahead on how i will play if my local gamestop has a sf4 midnight launch tourney thing and we are forced to use the stock pads for whatever system the game is played on. i don't wanna be forced to doing jump in hk to crouching hk all night haha.how do throws work in SFIV anyway? is it two buttons like in 3S or Alpha 3 (I had completely forgotten that Alpha 3 had whiffable throws until just now)? The first time I play this game is probably gonna be when the console version launches, haha!

[SmallWind]

Like 3S

[akuma001]

sf4 multi button mechanics are

throw = lp + lk
focus = mp + mk
taunt = hp + hk
ex = any 2 punch/kick depending on special move
ultra = super special move + 3 punch/kick depending on special move (except for i think akuma)

so yeah i have no idea how people will play sf4 on the stock pad without macros for certain actions unless they got some crazy matrix coordination. :P

[RelentlessRolento]

damn...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44646.html

that fei long ultra is hot!

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone see this?

http://www.namcogames.com/TEKKEN2/

[Jimbo Slice]

Hopping onto Live now...

[hankmecrankme]

Sorry I wasn't there Jim, I fell asleep.

[BlueSwim]

anyone see this?

http://www.namcogames.com/TEKKEN2/
Are fighting games on cell phones even worth a shit to begin with?

[Mr. Beef]

Damn, Fei Long's looks amazing!

[Jimbo Slice]

Sorry I wasn't there Jim, I fell asleep.

No prob bob.

[jer7583]

I need to learn how to keek that sonofabeetch VEGAs ASS

SO HORD!

I am absolutely worthless as Chun against Vega. On the ground, I can keep up. I can usually shut them down, but once the wall jump shenanigans start, I'm so confused about where I can hit him, where I'll get air thrown, and all that.

And I'm learning quickly that my main overall weakness is dealing with wakeup pressure and jump ins. That's where I take most of my damage as chun.

[RelentlessRolento]

it's the tournament legal edition Tekken 2 so yes.

[Mr. Beef]

As a Tony Hawk user, the one thing that stops Vega's wall jump shit (if he does it on the opposite wall) is jumping jab. It stays out there until I land, and it snuffs everything Vega tries to do. Same wall? I have no clue. :lol:

Think you can find a move of Chun's like that that stays out there forever?

[RelentlessRolento]

damn??? what is this? looks fun just from the title:

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/osukaratebu/logo.png

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/osukaratebu/osukaratebu.htm


also this looks fucking awesome... need to play

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/tifatan/tifatan2-2a.pnghttp://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/tifatan/tifatan-2a.png

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/tifatan/tifatan.htm

[Chacrana]

So I got back home about an hour ago, and I was hoping that my Saturn S-video cables would've shown up, but they're not here. Bummer. I was totally gonna play some Mega Man 8. So I'm like "dang, what should I do now?" Well, I grabbed that copy of Marvel Vs Capcom 1 off the shelf, cracked it open, and started playing it. Now, I was expecting something that was different from MVC2, but holy shit - this is like completely different. I mean, it's got the same signature zaniness that MVC2 has, but I dunno... it just plays way different, and I really like it. I don't like using the Tekken stick, because I've become accustomed to nicer buttons and I hate this stick, but whatcha gonna do? Good enough.

Now I just need some pizza and I'll lather my Tekken stick in grease, for that authentic arcade experience.

[asianxcore]

haha, i'm just thinking ahead on how i will play if my local gamestop has a sf4 midnight launch tourney thing and we are forced to use the stock pads for whatever system the game is played on. i don't wanna be forced to doing jump in hk to crouching hk all night haha.

If that gets you to past the first past of the tourney why not? :)

IMO, SFIV is going to be hell for people learning it on pad. Again maybe that's because I'm so accustomed to sticks but like akuma001, I can't fathom how you can play SFIV on any pad period and not want to throw something.

Give Fantiq a call about pad play akuma001! haha

[Mr. Beef]

As a pad scrub, I can't fathom playing on a stick. But I guess that's mainly because I never really did any kind of arcade-hopping in my youth.

[RelentlessRolento]

So I got back home about an hour ago, and I was hoping that my Saturn S-video cables would've shown up, but they're not here. Bummer. I was totally gonna play some Mega Man 8. So I'm like "dang, what should I do now?" Well, I grabbed that copy of Marvel Vs Capcom 1 off the shelf, cracked it open, and started playing it. Now, I was expecting something that was different from MVC2, but holy shit - this is like completely different. I mean, it's got the same signature zaniness that MVC2 has, but I dunno... it just plays way different, and I really like it. I don't like using the Tekken stick, because I've become accustomed to nicer buttons and I hate this stick, but whatcha gonna do? Good enough.

Now I just need some pizza and I'll lather my Tekken stick in grease, for that authentic arcade experience.

wut? You've never played MvC1??????????????/

I've always like it a million times better than MvC2. finally someone agrees with me.

oh and more MM awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5138267/hands-all-over-street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick

[Mr. Beef]

I loved MvC1 because of that 4-player hotness.

[hankmecrankme]

Sticks, mang. Love 'em. Playing in the arcades growing up, I always wanted a good console stick. I've used so many shitty ass ones that I basically went pad only for a long time. I always wanted a Mas stick because it used real arcade quality parts and not the cheap shit we always ended up receiving. So I used pads for the longest time, until the Namco stick for PS1 came out and I snagged one. It was really excellent quality, but I sucked on it, since I used pads for so long. It wasn't until I got a Dreamcast and MvC that I realized I needed a stick, so I got the green goblin Agetec stick. I used it so much that I plain wore it out. I got a PS to DC adapter after that and put my Namco stick to work some more.

Now, I can use a pad to play still, but I much prefer a stick. :)

One of these days, I'll finish my DC Green Goblin mod. It still needs a paint thinner bath to remove all of the fucked up paint on it. :cry: Other than that, it's ready to go.

[BlueSwim]

Looks like we're going to have to pay extra (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14490962&postcount=4553) for ANY alt, costumes for SFIV.:roll::roll::roll:

Make it cheap, Capcom and I'll consider it.

Also, a rumor going around is that the C.E. will have credits to download your choice of any five alt. costumes.

[hankmecrankme]

Looks like we're going to have to pay extra (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14490962&postcount=4553) for ANY alt, costumes for SFIV.:roll::roll::roll:

Make it cheap, Capcom and I'll consider it.

Also, a rumor going around is that the C.E. will have credits to download your choice of any five alt. costumes.


Fuck that.

[RelentlessRolento]

fuck that as well, but I honestly don't mind too much. It's something I'd actually pay for though I don't see the point.

I will though be wasting a ton of money on DLC for Tekken 6.

[Chacrana]

wut? You've never played MvC1??????????????/

I've always like it a million times better than MvC2. finally someone agrees with me.

oh and more MM awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5138267/hands-all-over-street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick

I did play it a couple times when I was at Pizza Hut like... a decade ago. But yeah, I really do think I prefer MVC 1 based on what little I've played so far. But I'm just really impressed that these are totally different games... I was expecting like a SFA to SFA2 sort of progression, but it's more dramatic than that (well, and unlike the SFA series, MVC1 is good...)

Also, Mad Catz needs to send one of those sticks to Honestgamers so I can review it. Bah, whatever.

[PhrostByte]

wut? You've never played MvC1??????????????/

I've always like it a million times better than MvC2. finally someone agrees with me.

oh and more MM awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5138267/hands-all-over-street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick

I always thought that MvC2 was the VS series downfall. :(

[hankmecrankme]

fuck that as well, but I honestly don't mind too much. It's something I'd actually pay for though I don't see the point.

I will though be wasting a ton of money on DLC for Tekken 6.

I just hate being ass fucked by DLC. I already paid $60 for the game, don't nickel and dime me.

[Jimbo Slice]

I did play it a couple times when I was at Pizza Hut like... a decade ago. But yeah, I really do think I prefer MVC 1 based on what little I've played so far. But I'm just really impressed that these are totally different games... I was expecting like a SFA to SFA2 sort of progression, but it's more dramatic than that (well, and unlike the SFA series, MVC1 is good...)

Also, Mad Catz needs to send one of those sticks to Honestgamers so I can review it. Bah, whatever.

ready to get your mind blown? pick Ryu, and do a HCB with medium or hard punch....