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DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 09:24 AM
It was a few pages back, but I'm not helping the shoto problem with my ken.
Played quite a few matches last night, won a little over half. Played some really good people, and some really shitty ones, not much in between.
It always seems like the coolest and nicest dudes I meet on PSN fighting games are black dudes. Almost Everytime I play someone who sounds white they talk mad shit and spam the cheapest tactics possible.
Anybody else finding themselves trying to hit forward to parry?
PhrostByte
02-18-2009, 09:26 AM
So I'm probably about 15:3 in SFIV now. And I unlocked two characters. :D
Question: Can someone explain SFIV basics to me? It seems like the defense meter builds up ultras. This is the meter used for focus attacks too right? To fill that meter, you need to get hit? The other meter is used for EX attacks and supers right? To fill that meter, you have to use be offensive? How come the defense meter has a split in the center?
FloodsAreUponUS
02-18-2009, 09:47 AM
for Focus Attacks there is no metter you hit MP+MK and if you tap it, it breaks the defense quickly, hold it down all the way and its an unblockable.
When you get hit it fills your revenge meter, half way up and you can use an ultra, fill it all the way up and that ultra hits harder.
The Super meter also fills from getting hit but nowhere as fast, it relies on offense mostly, and your EX attacks take away from that meter. To do a super you need that meter full.
Also I cant stand C.Viper.
Fei Long is tits.
Game is awesome.
PhrostByte
02-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Thanks Floods.
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 10:23 AM
I can totally agree with you in regards to STHDR. E. Honda is a masher's paradise and his ridiculous invincible properties on his headbutt don't help much either. Stored Ochio is bullshit too, especially when I play Bison who pretty much is totally shutdown.
Oh, I'm talking specifically about SFIV. I didn't bite on HD Remix...I figured if I wanted to play something like that I'd bust out the Anniversary collection.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 10:34 AM
HRAP EX on the way. I hope it's in-de-struct-ible.
hankmecrankme
02-18-2009, 10:40 AM
HRAP EX on the way. I hope it's in-de-struct-ible.
I wonder how much sales of it jumped this week for Amazon. :)
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 10:41 AM
After playing with the Fightpad last night, I can safely put my worries to rest. The thing felt just perfect for me. I've never used a better controller in my life for fighters. Granted, I don't have a Saturn pad handy, but as soon as I booted up SF4 and held the controller in my hands, it was perfect.
I nailed all specials and had absolutely no issues at all with the diagonals.
My only concern is with people saying it breaks after extended use... in which case, I'll be testing it over and over again to make sure it doesn't do that, heh. Hopefully, it doesn't fall apart on me, but initial impressions after 5 hours of play are superb.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 10:44 AM
I wonder how much sales of it jumped this week for Amazon. :)
considering madcatz only made like 5 of each type of controller and half of them are broken, Hori probably did pretty well.
Esper
02-18-2009, 10:51 AM
I can't believe I'm still up and playing this game. Shit, it's 6:40am. I hate this game because it's like crack, it's addicting. Still unlocking characters, going through challenge mode, and playing online matches.
Anyway, I (Rose) played this best of 5 online match with an Akuma. The first round starts out with the guy spamming fireballs. I'm like "ok", *uses Soul Reflect*. Eventually, I got tired of it after 10 to 15 fireballs. So, when I advanced forward; he starts moving his Akuma back into the corner like a damn turtle, spamming his standing and jumping fireballs at me.
Dude, this is like a reenactment of Super Mario Bros. on the NES = 8-bit bowser shooting his mixed fireballs up and down, while 8-bit mario avoids it. So, when I got into striking distance, I put in a couple of attack moves and focus attacks to punish him. That's when his ultra meter went up and his Akuma caught me with the raging demon taking away half of my life bar, thus I died in the first round :).
The second, third, fourth, and last round were pretty much the same routine, but this time I would jump away like a wuss whenever he got his ultra meter on full. I guess I'm a wussy turtle too, lol. I just wanted to play it safe against a spammy Akuma. In the end, I won by busting out the shamwow special move at the end. The last round was a nail-biter for me.
Alright, that's all, I just wanted to share my SF4 experience with you guys ;)
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 11:06 AM
HRAP EX on the way. I hope it's in-de-struct-ible.
How can you afford that? You just gambled away your kids' college fund on an investment!
Anyway, I'll probably order a HRAP EX tonight. Gotta cancel my BB order still.
hankmecrankme
02-18-2009, 11:10 AM
Yes, Chac, join us, the HRAPists EXtreme. 8-)
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 11:11 AM
How can you afford that? You just gambled away your kids' college fund on an investment!
Anyway, I'll probably order a HRAP EX tonight. Gotta cancel my BB order still.
I sold the kids' clothes.
can't wait for the stick to get here...them i'ma put me some sanwas in there at some point
Yes, Chac, join us, the HRAPists EXtreme. 8-)
:lol: I'm a HRAPist and proud of it.
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 11:15 AM
I sold the kids' clothes.
Shoulda sold the kids. Probably could've gotten more for 'em.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 11:15 AM
Okay so I got that "Ashley" phone call from GameStop around noon yesterday, telling me the game was IN.
I called the GameStop just to be sure, and they said it would be in at 2PM.
When I got to the GameStop after work, around 5:30, there was a CROWD of people there just for Street Fighter... and the game still hadn't come in yet!!!! Well apparently it had been shipped, but for some reason this store had to like borrow all their copies from another GameStop in the area. So I waited in this crowd for a while until finally (after 6:00) this guy comes in with a bunch of boxes from the other GameStop. Wheeee!
Didn't get home until later but I got to mess around with the game a bit after midnight. LOVING it so far. I'm impressed by how "snappy" the controls feel and the overall look and presentation is just beautiful. I'm kinda just gonna screw around with it for this first week while I'm waiting for my stick in the mail... then I'll REALLY start digging in!
Oh and I'm wondering if anyone else had this weird issue with the CE. On that sheet of paper about the bonus costumes, there's this white rectangular space that looks like it's supposed to have a code written down. But the space is completely empty on mine! Did I get some whack defect, or are they all like that and I'm supposed to be looking somewhere else for the code?? Also the location of the soundtrack and movie discs seemed to be switched, but that's no big deal.
EDIT: aaaahhh just glanced at the gamercard thing in my sig and it's cool seeing SFIV in there :D
EDIT AGAIN: also just realized that my gamercard has three different Ryu faces in it, hahaha.
EDIT THIRD STRIKE: Or four if you count Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden lol.
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 11:18 AM
Okay so I got that "Ashley" phone call from GameStop around noon yesterday, telling me the game was IN.
I called the GameStop just to be sure, and they said it would be in at 2PM.
When I got to the GameStop after work, around 5:30, there was a CROWD of people there just for Street Fighter... and the game still hadn't come in yet!!!! Well apparently it had been shipped, but for some reason this store had to like borrow all their copies from another GameStop in the area. So I waited in this crowd for a while until finally (after 6:00) this guy comes in with a bunch of boxes from the other GameStop. Wheeee!
Didn't get home until later but I got to mess around with the game a bit after midnight. LOVING it so far. I'm impressed by how "snappy" the controls feel and the overall look and presentation is just beautiful. I'm kinda just gonna screw around with it for this first week while I'm waiting for my stick in the mail... then I'll REALLY start digging in!
Oh and I'm wondering if anyone else had this weird issue with the CE. On that sheet of paper about the bonus costumes, there's this white rectangular space that looks like it's supposed to have a code written down. But the space is completely empty? Did I get some whack defect, or are they all like that and I'm supposed to be looking somewhere else for the code??
EDIT: aaaahhh just glanced at my gamercard thing in my sig and it's cool seeing SFIV in there :-)
Uh oh, I'm pretty sure that the code should be on the little paper that's in the Ties that Bind case. I'm not positive, as I don't have it with me, but I seem to recall that being the case.
Did anyone else find it odd that the Soundtrack was in the Ties that Bind case? It seems that they accidentally put the wrong discs into the wrong places during production.
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 11:22 AM
Dammit, you guys have me thinking I should go for the HRAP EX now, rather than the TE or modding my EX2.
I also have a PS2 T5 stick to mod sitting here...that I got for $20 new at gamestop a year ago.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 11:28 AM
I can't believe I bought the strategy guide. smh. The guy pretty much copied all the in-game stuff to paper :\
I peeled the price tag off the cellophane and stuck it on the guide. return ftw?
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 11:36 AM
Uh oh, I'm pretty sure that the code should be on the little paper that's in the Ties that Bind case. I'm not positive, as I don't have it with me, but I seem to recall that being the case.
Did anyone else find it odd that the Soundtrack was in the Ties that Bind case? It seems that they accidentally put the wrong discs into the wrong places during production.Hmm so I guess that disc switch was a common thing. I'm nervous about that code though! What would be the best way to contact Capcom about it, they got a customer service phone # or something? I'm sure if I bitched to Capcom and supplied that game register code on the back of the manual they could help me out. I'd rather try that before I exchange the game (and who knows if they'll even have replacement CE's in stock for a while...)
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 11:36 AM
I can't believe I bought the strategy guide. smh. The guy pretty much copied all the in-game stuff to paper :\
I peeled the price tag off the cellophane and stuck it on the guide. return ftw?
If you bought it at Gamestop, I know some of them won't let you return guides... although I'm sure if you're adamant enough they'll buckle. Hopefully they won't care.
I'll probably only pick up the guide because it's pretty. And even then at a discount. Likely at a penny.
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 11:38 AM
Hmm so I guess that disc switch was a common thing. I'm nervous about that code though! What would be the best way to contact Capcom about it, they got a customer service phone # or something? I'd rather try that before I exchange the game (and who knows if they'll even have replacement CE's in stock for a while...)
I'm assuming you have the PS3 CE, which seems to be harder to come by?
You may want to try to contact someone like Sven on Capcom-Unity.com. Or create a thread in the Ask Capcom section of Capcom-Unity. They're pretty good about answering. Maybe they'll ask you to send in a picture of the codeless slip of paper and they'll give you a new code. I would try that, personally.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/forum/view/7371/17181/Ask_Capcom
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm assuming you have the PS3 CE, which seems to be harder to come by?
You may want to try to contact someone like Sven on Capcom-Unity.com. Or create a thread in the Ask Capcom section of Capcom-Unity. They're pretty good about answering. Maybe they'll ask you to send in a picture of the codeless slip of paper and they'll give you a new code. I would try that, personally.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/forum/view/7371/17181/Ask_Capcom360 version, but I like that idea. Maybe I'll give that a shot when I get home!
BlueSwim
02-18-2009, 12:16 PM
I'm assuming you have the PS3 CE, which seems to be harder to come by?
You may want to try to contact someone like Sven on Capcom-Unity.com. Or create a thread in the Ask Capcom section of Capcom-Unity. They're pretty good about answering. Maybe they'll ask you to send in a picture of the codeless slip of paper and they'll give you a new code. I would try that, personally.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/forum/view/7371/17181/Ask_Capcom
Yeah. Do this. I'd say it's the best course of action. You should have gotten a code.
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I watched The Ties That Bind last night. It was better than what I was expecting.Poor Cammy got the crap beaten out of her by Viper.:cry::cry::cry: It's not perfect, but I'm glad I got it.
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Does anybody have the track listing for the CE's soundtrack CD? I can't believe Capcom didn't include it. Idiots.:roll: Just watch as it's buried somewhere in the manual I didn't look.:lol:
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 12:37 PM
I watched The Ties That Bind last night. It was better than what I was expecting.Poor Cammy got the crap beaten out of her by Viper.:cry::cry::cry: It's not perfect, but I'm glad I got it.
So... it's not just the anime cutscenes from the game? If so, that's a relief. I was totally expecting to be disappointed by it.
And, no I didn't see any track listing for the CE. Maybe Capcom will release one postlaunch for us. I just posted a thread asking.
BlueSwim
02-18-2009, 12:54 PM
So... it's not just the anime cutscenes from the game? If so, that's a relief. I was totally expecting to be disappointed by it.
And, no I didn't see any track listing for the CE. Maybe Capcom will release one postlaunch for us. I just posted a thread asking.
I don't believe I've seen any reused anime footage yet. There was a TON of Viper footage in The Ties That Bind that didn't make it into her story mode's videos the game. I can't be 100% sure just yet, though.8-)8-)8-)
Awesome! I hope they reply.:D:D:D
Knoxximus
02-18-2009, 01:02 PM
ARRRRGH!! I'm paying the price for my addiction by cramming for an hour this morning!! BAH!!
,,,,at least I unlocked Sakura and Dan for my trouble, though on more than one occasion I was ready to throw my stick through my TV while fighting Seth. Sheez!
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 01:03 PM
Yes, Chac, join us, the HRAPists EXtreme. 8-)
I'm already a HRAPist. Just don't do any HRAPing on the 360 yet. And unfortunately, there's not a lot to HRAPe on the PS3.
But yeah, I love the look of that TE stick and all that and I'm almost tempted to wait for it, but I'm just incredibly paranoid that the thing'll break, given the reports thus far. If I can't buy something with confidence, I'm not going to buy it.
I'll mod the shit out of my HRAP EX.
SmallWind
02-18-2009, 01:05 PM
:whee: Got my CE(s) at BB.
suko_32
02-18-2009, 01:33 PM
TE sticks on amazon is supposedly supposed to ship on the 20th. Hurry up!
Inf^Shini
02-18-2009, 02:30 PM
Grrrr, gotta get my internet back up. I had to stop playing because I started getting a blister on my thumb :(
MiniB0ssBattle
02-18-2009, 02:31 PM
My SE fightstick gets stuck sometimes when I move to the right. Do i have to break in my joystick or something?
dmunkee
02-18-2009, 02:32 PM
Listening to the theme loop over and over during the install is forcing me to like it.
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 02:34 PM
My SE fightstick gets stuck sometimes when I move to the right. Do i have to break in my joystick or something?
Call Madcatz. Your stick might be defective. They'll be making an official announcement soon.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-18-2009, 02:38 PM
TE sticks on amazon is supposedly supposed to ship on the 20th. Hurry up!
Cant wait to scalp that shit up on ebay.
Then buy an HRAP EX or keep on using mah pad.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 02:43 PM
Does SFIV let you do PPP moves with only two buttons? I set my triggers to 3P/3K last night and I felt all dirty (even though using a default 360 pad is a perfectly legitimate reason haha).
on a different note, they seem to have some fun combo mechanics in this. More permissive than SF2 series but certainly way more restrained than a Vs. title. I haven't done MUCH with it yet, but I was just playing around with Ken in training for a bit. Can most special moves be canceled into supers? I assume you have to be on the ground in most cases... it seemed like I was able to cancel a Fierce DP into a Super DP as long as it was during the first couple of hits (i.e. punching the guy in the gut before he actually jumps and spins). And I couldn't cancel a hurricane kick into anything, which I'm guessing is because he's technically airborne while he's doing it??
Also I may have read the term wrong (damn tiny txt on my SDTV) but what's up with "Link Combos"? Is that when you cancel a normal attack into another normal attack (I noticed Ken could do this with MP->HP)?
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Does SFIV let you do PPP moves with only two buttons? I set my triggers to 3P/3K last night and I felt all dirty (even though using a default 360 pad is a perfectly legitimate reason haha).
PP would likely register as either an EX move or a super move (if you had enough meter). Pretty sure you need to hit all the buttons.
Inf^Shini
02-18-2009, 02:50 PM
Took me a while to catch up on all the posts, Library internet FTW.
Loving this game and I wish I had a stick to make it more enjoyable, the blister won't let me play on my d-pad, now I wanna open my fightpad :(
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 03:03 PM
ARRRRGH!! I'm paying the price for my addiction by cramming for an hour this morning!! BAH!!
,,,,at least I unlocked Sakura and Dan for my trouble, though on more than one occasion I was ready to throw my stick through my TV while fighting Seth. Sheez!
Tell me about it. Took me 9 tires to beat Seth. I hate how it's not a tough fight, but more avoiding cheap teleportation spamming.
dkreegz515
02-18-2009, 03:05 PM
my TE stick ships from amazon the 25th... sucks...
MarkMan
02-18-2009, 03:36 PM
HRAP <3 :)
So like.... I need to stick to one char, but I'm still experimenting...
I'm using Rufus, Bison, Balrog right now...
Mr. Beef
02-18-2009, 03:39 PM
FUCK. THIS SHIT. My store got their SFIV shipment delivered to the incorrect store! How does that shit happen!?Now my options are to wait until tomorrow, or ask the parents for a ride once one of them gets home from work. FFFFUUUUUUU---
kainzero
02-18-2009, 03:51 PM
i wanna get a new tv. i'm trying to play NCAA college hoops and the text is hard to read, so i think it's time to upgrade.
a small tv will be fine though, looking at something in the 22-27" range. i always hate shopping for technology because i have to research a bunch of crap
anybody have an easy button for me?
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 03:51 PM
I'm assuming you have the PS3 CE, which seems to be harder to come by?
You may want to try to contact someone like Sven on Capcom-Unity.com. Or create a thread in the Ask Capcom section of Capcom-Unity. They're pretty good about answering. Maybe they'll ask you to send in a picture of the codeless slip of paper and they'll give you a new code. I would try that, personally.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/forum/view/7371/17181/Ask_Capcom
Don't contact Sven, he'll be all "I'm not helping you because you didn't buy Okami, Zack and Wiki, or DMC4 PC. We'll open up our customer service if you guys pass the next test -- Dead Rising Wii."
If you bought it at Gamestop, I know some of them won't let you return guides... although I'm sure if you're adamant enough they'll buckle. Hopefully they won't care.
I'll probably only pick up the guide because it's pretty. And even then at a discount. Likely at a penny.
The guy returned without a fuss, thankfully. I was afraid he'd be like "but look at all these, this is supposed to be sealed." The scary part is, I totally knew the guy from this gamer gathering I used to go to at community college (which was as sad as it sounds.) It didn't hit me until I left the store though. I heard that basically everyone who used to attend the gathering dropped out of CC because of WoW. awkward :(
I would wait for it to penny out or $5.00 or something cheap. I guess the frame data is worth that much. Along with such insights as "The Hadoken is a very good move for Ryu and Ken."
SmallWind
02-18-2009, 04:01 PM
HRAP <3 :)
So like.... I need to stick to one char, but I'm still experimenting...
I'm using Rufus, Bison, Balrog right now...Balrog Army!
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 04:04 PM
I played Balrog for a bit yesterday... I actually liked playin' as the dude a lot, and I think I might finally be starting to understand how to play a charge character. I dunno, I just like the way that son moves in 4... a lot more than in 2 at least.
Playing on a stick probably helped, as well.
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 04:11 PM
a small tv will be fine though, looking at something in the 22-27" range. i always hate shopping for technology because i have to research a bunch of crap
anybody have an easy button for me?
There are quite a few nice 26" 720p LCDs out there for about $300-350. Best Buy has a Toshiba and a Sharp for pretty decent prices, though I'm sure you can grab something online cheaper. I'm pretty sure the Toshiba was on sale for $329 when my father and I looked at it on Sunday...Also, the new Sony models are starting to hit stores, so last year's models are dropping fast. And if you have a Sam's membership, they have a 26" vizio in the same price range...
GuardianE
02-18-2009, 04:19 PM
Don't contact Sven, he'll be all "I'm not helping you because you didn't buy Okami, Zack and Wiki, or DMC4 PC. We'll open up our customer service if you guys pass the next test -- Dead Rising Wii."
lol, Sven's always answered my questions. But putting up a general question should stimulate some answers from someone there.
I haven't taken a peek inside the guide, as its sealed wherever I see it, but it does look abysmally thin.
SmallWind
02-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Lizardlick is backed up probably still?Accumulated about 900+ orders during the weekend.
kainzero
02-18-2009, 04:23 PM
There are quite a few nice 26" 720p LCDs out there for about $300-350. Best Buy has a Toshiba and a Sharp for pretty decent prices, though I'm sure you can grab something online cheaper. I'm pretty sure the Toshiba was on sale for $329 when my father and I looked at it on Sunday...Also, the new Sony models are starting to hit stores, so last year's models are dropping fast. And if you have a Sam's membership, they have a 26" vizio in the same price range...
i'll probably buy online to avoid sales tax... now i gotta find a place though.
but $329 for 26" that's decent, i'll go check it out today when i pick up sf4.
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Yah, I thought it was 800 and realized they're probably backed up as fuck. 900 = don't expect shit for a while.
But it's not like I have the stick yet, either.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 04:31 PM
i wanna get a new tv. i'm trying to play NCAA college hoops and the text is hard to read, so i think it's time to upgrade.
a small tv will be fine though, looking at something in the 22-27" range. i always hate shopping for technology because i have to research a bunch of crap
anybody have an easy button for me?No "easy" button but I can at least share what I've come across in my own research (I'm about to buy a TV too!)
As a fighting gamer I assume you will want to keep LAG as low as possible, so here's what you should keep in mind:
- Most lag is caused by post-processing done by the TV itself. If you have an Xbox 360, try to have it outputting in the same resolution as the TV. The 360's scaler won't lag like a TV would, so that takes the workload off the TV.
- general consensus seems to be that plasmas lag less than LCDs
- consider what kind of inputs you will need. For example, I was gonna go for a Panasonic until I realized most of their models don't have a VGA input, or at least not a VGA input that accepts 1080p. Probably not an issue for you since 1080p really shouldn't be necessary for a 27" screen, but I'm just saying do careful research on the INPUTS!
that's what I got, hopefully it gives you some tidbit of info you can work with!
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 04:33 PM
BTW, Uppa, you shouldn't go with a Samsung plasma because they aren't as good as Panasonic's.
Anyway, I dunno how good a $350 LCD's going to be. Are you just using this thing for gaming? I'm tempted to recommend a computer monitor instead if you already have a sound setup to use... I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get far better picture quality for the same price.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 04:47 PM
BTW, Uppa, you shouldn't go with a Samsung plasma because they aren't as good as Panasonic's.
Anyway, I dunno how good a $350 LCD's going to be. Are you just using this thing for gaming? I'm tempted to recommend a computer monitor instead if you already have a sound setup to use... I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get far better picture quality for the same price.Well I was basically sold on Panasonic already, but the VGA issue is literally the only thing holding me back. What would you say is the main problem with the Samsungs?
JEKKI
02-18-2009, 04:51 PM
dang I called gamecrazy, still dont got the CE yet.
I also really want either sum ice cream or a smoothie rite now,
of which I currently have neither... nor do I have the means to obtain one as I am currently stuck at work.
I hate work!!!!
lol.
not a good day today, I really wish I had sum ice cream or a smoothie to make me feel better...
:cry:
JEKKI
02-18-2009, 04:53 PM
Balrog Army!lol fukkyn Balrog army...
it's like that one song,
I'm slim shady yes I'm slim shady all u other slim shady are jus slim shady so wont the real slim shady please stand up please stand up please stand up.
yeay that song is aiite.
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 04:53 PM
Well I was basically sold on Panasonic already, but the VGA issue is literally the only thing holding me back. What would you say is the main problem with the Samsungs?
Also, keep in mind that Plasma uses far more electricity than LCD. (and LCD uses more than projection...) not sure if that's a concern for you...
Might I suggest looking for a deal on Pioneer, if you're going plasma? I might be able find out where my buddy got the deal on his, and post it later.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 04:58 PM
Also, keep in mind that Plasma uses far more electricity than LCD. (and LCD uses more than projection...) not sure if that's a concern for you...
Might I suggest looking for a deal on Pioneer, if you're going plasma? I might be able find out where my buddy got the deal on his, and post it later.I pay a FLAT rent to my landlords with all utilities included, so I don't give a funk about electricity! I'd be interested in a Pioneer as long as it's 50" and accepts 1080p over VGA... that's like my make-or-break qualification right now.
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 04:59 PM
HRAP EX on the way. I hope it's in-de-struct-ible.
Well I was basically sold on Panasonic already, but the VGA issue is literally the only thing holding me back. What would you say is the main problem with the Samsungs?
The picture quality just isn't as good. I admit, I'm more of a videophile-type than most, but yeah.
So what's the VGA issue? No 1080p over it or something? There's like 3 HDMI inputs and 3 component inputs, so I didn't think that was a problem... I just use my Dreamcast on VGA anyway (which looks awesome.)
Also, keep in mind that Plasma uses far more electricity than LCD. (and LCD uses more than projection...) not sure if that's a concern for you...
Might I suggest looking for a deal on Pioneer, if you're going plasma? I might be able find out where my buddy got the deal on his, and post it later.
Well, as screen size increases, the energy efficiency ratio starts to get more and more similar between LCDs and Plasmas. So basically, the larger your set, the power consumption between the two formats aren't as disparate.
I say buy what looks good to you in the largest and most feature-filled format you can afford.
Ronin317
02-18-2009, 05:06 PM
I say buy what looks good to you in the largest and most feature-filled format you can afford.
Which is why I'm rocking a 60" Sony SXRD that was only $1600 with a 4 year warranty...Calibrated, the picture can't be beat. Sure, it's wider and not wall mountable, but fuck it.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 05:21 PM
The picture quality just isn't as good. I admit, I'm more of a videophile-type than most, but yeah.
So what's the VGA issue? No 1080p over it or something? There's like 3 HDMI inputs and 3 component inputs, so I didn't think that was a problem... I just use my Dreamcast on VGA anyway (which looks awesome.)Yeah I couldn't find a Panasonic model with a VGA port that took 1080p. Most of them maxed out at 1080i or just didn't have a VGA port to begin with. Some were also limited to odd resolutions like 1280x1024 or 1366x768, which I assume would then require some scaling by the TV which I'm trying to avoid.
Well, as screen size increases, the energy efficiency ratio starts to get more and more similar between LCDs and Plasmas. So basically, the larger your set, the power consumption between the two formats aren't as disparate.
I say buy what looks good to you in the largest and most feature-filled format you can afford.cool man that's what I'm trying to do!
Best Buy: "Oh we guarantee that SFIV will be in stock BY 2pm. So we CAN'T sell it until 2pm!"
fuckING RETARDED.
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 05:33 PM
My mom picked up my copy of SF4 CE. So... that's good for me.
Best Buy: "Oh we guarantee that SFIV will be in stock BY 2pm. So we CAN'T sell it until 2pm!"
fuckING RETARDED.
Well, at least they have the game on hand. My BB doesn't even know if they'll get their shipment in at 2pm today!
Japakneez
02-18-2009, 05:36 PM
No "easy" button but I can at least share what I've come across in my own research (I'm about to buy a TV too!)
As a fighting gamer I assume you will want to keep LAG as low as possible, so here's what you should keep in mind:
- Most lag is caused by post-processing done by the TV itself. If you have an Xbox 360, try to have it outputting in the same resolution as the TV. The 360's scaler won't lag like a TV would, so that takes the workload off the TV.
- general consensus seems to be that plasmas lag less than LCDs
- consider what kind of inputs you will need. For example, I was gonna go for a Panasonic until I realized most of their models don't have a VGA input, or at least not a VGA input that accepts 1080p. Probably not an issue for you since 1080p really shouldn't be necessary for a 27" screen, but I'm just saying do careful research on the INPUTS!
that's what I got, hopefully it gives you some tidbit of info you can work with!
Hey man. I'm playing my games on a computer monitor. Its an Acer 24in LCD. Currently using an HDMI to DVI converter from the xbox to the monitor. Is this a good setup?
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 05:37 PM
no
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 05:37 PM
Hopefully BB's definition of "2pm" is different from my GameStop's.
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 05:41 PM
Hey man. I'm playing my games on a computer monitor. Its an Acer 24in LCD. Currently using an HDMI to DVI converter from the xbox to the monitor. Is this a good setup?oh I'm hardly the one to ask... but based on my recent research I'd imagine the converter could be a trouble spot. And I guess see if your monitor can do one of those 1080 resolutions.
I suggest going to AVSforum and playing around with their google search, I've been doing a lot of that lately!
asianxcore
02-18-2009, 05:42 PM
:whee: Got my CE(s) at BB.
Nice! Can't wait to get some games in against that Cammy.....and fucking El Fuerte.
Even though I went out of my way to get a copy yesterday, the GS I pre-ordered at hasn't even called me. One of my friend pre-ordered at that place, so I hope at least they have his copy today.
BULL_Ship
02-18-2009, 05:48 PM
oh I'm hardly the one to ask... but based on my recent research I'd imagine the converter could be a trouble spot. And I guess see if your monitor can do one of those 1080 resolutions.
I suggest going to AVSforum and playing around with their google search, I've been doing a lot of that lately!
HDMI dvi converters are passive it just changes pinouts. That setup will be based on whatever the input lag and response time are which is hard to tell with just a brand name.
Japakneez
02-18-2009, 05:55 PM
oh I'm hardly the one to ask... but based on my recent research I'd imagine the converter could be a trouble spot. And I guess see if your monitor can do one of those 1080 resolutions.
I suggest going to AVSforum and playing around with their google search, I've been doing a lot of that lately!
HDMI dvi converters are passive it just changes pinouts. That setup will be based on whatever the input lag and response time are which is hard to tell with just a brand name.
Yeah its just a cable that starts out as HDMI and ends in DVI. I was thinking it was basically the same thing as running a VGA connection.
I thought i read somewhere that an LCD monitor is better than TV as long as the ms was low. I think mine is 4ms. Then they went into all this tech talk that just confuses me :-#
DomLando
02-18-2009, 06:02 PM
I ended up going with the 360 version. I will be getting the PS3 version as well sometime soon. Please change OP thanks. Whoever wants to play send me a FR.
BULL_Ship
02-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Yeah its just a cable that starts out as HDMI and ends in DVI. I was thinking it was basically the same thing as running a VGA connection.
I thought i read somewhere that an LCD monitor is better than TV as long as the ms was low. I think mine is 4ms. Then they went into all this tech talk that just confuses me :-#
Yah but there is a difference between lag time and response time. Basically you have to do the tests yourself to figure out what it is (Basicly you use dual output on you pc and take a picture of the monitor and a crt monitor) Chances are the monitor you got is good enough just make sure you are running the xbox at 1920 x 1080 (closest res to your monitor) to minimize the work load of the monitor's scaler.
dizzlle01
02-18-2009, 06:15 PM
I just got a ps2 slim complete with a 8mb memory card and snk vs capcom 2 complete for 60. Is that a good price?
Chacrana
02-18-2009, 06:16 PM
ya
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Best Buy: "Oh we guarantee that SFIV will be in stock BY 2pm. So we CAN'T sell it until 2pm!"
fuckING RETARDED.
That sounds like the guy at TRU today: "You can't return that Gamecube at this store because we don't have any in stock any more."
ummm, I bought the last two from the store, so that means I can't return it...wtf?! :lol: luckily the manager let me do it.
akilshohen
02-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Best Buy: "Oh we guarantee that SFIV will be in stock BY 2pm. So we CAN'T sell it until 2pm!"
fuckING RETARDED.
The best buy around me had it yesterday and was sold out.
RelentlessRolento
02-18-2009, 06:23 PM
just got SFIV and installing right now...
hankmecrankme
02-18-2009, 06:29 PM
just got HRAP EX and installing right now...
RelentlessRolento
02-18-2009, 06:31 PM
:lol: once again capcom manages to make an annoying as hell menu song... >_<
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 06:34 PM
I've been sitting here browsing and didn't bother to turn down my TV. it's blasting over and over. :lol:
and fucking amazon delayed HRAPer stick.
kainzero
02-18-2009, 06:41 PM
man, these 26" tvs are expensive. this 22" 2333HD looks good though, and i gotta go chase a coupon for it and i'd get that if i can.
OR i can use my 22" monitor, but i have to buy an HDMI cable. but then i'm confused, i don't know how audio would work. i don't have a receiver and right now i'm using a splitter to connect the red/white cables to an external speaker system. and my soundcard only has a digital input and a one cable input so i don't even know how that works. maybe i can get a cheap receiver instead? i don't even have computer speakers. *shrug*
this is all so i can read the goddamn font in sf4 and other xbox titles. whack.
asianxcore
02-18-2009, 06:49 PM
FUCK. THIS SHIT. My store got their SFIV shipment delivered to the incorrect store! How does that shit happen!?Now my options are to wait until tomorrow, or ask the parents for a ride once one of them gets home from work. FFFFUUUUUUU---
It happens a bunch :)
When I was an Inventory Supervisor at Borders we got stuff mis-shipped randomly. Everything from small FedEx boxes to pallets of entire books. Late last year I was expecting an important shipment of books (around 50 boxes w/ 1,600 items), found out FedEx shipped it to New Mexico. Yea, they weren't happy to get a call from me the day I found out.
Also you know if you weren't 2 hours away, I'd give you a ride to wherever your SFIV copy was. Hell, one of my friends who doesn't drive is at work right now and I'm driving him later to pick up his pre-order.
DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 06:50 PM
So I'm doing Ken's Challenge rooms and it tells me to
j.HK
HK
MP DP
and then some other shit. I can not get the mp dp to come out for the life of me. I just spent 20 minutes trying to get the timing figured out. Tips?
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Are you sure it's HK to MP? I always thought combos worked from weak to strong, not the other way around.
Try doing a focus attack after the HK then qucikly cancel it by pressing f,f then do a MP.
DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 07:29 PM
Yep. The screen says
Jump Heavy Kick
Heavy Kick
Medium Shoryuken
Ex Focus Attack.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 07:33 PM
Nevermind, amazon shipped my hrapex.
JEKKI
02-18-2009, 07:34 PM
maaaaaan... I hate work!!
all u doods in school and whatnot... ENJOY IT!!
I miss good food, free time, and pretty girls :cry:
man, these 26" tvs are expensive. this 22" 2333HD looks good though, and i gotta go chase a coupon for it and i'd get that if i can.
OR i can use my 22" monitor, but i have to buy an HDMI cable. but then i'm confused, i don't know how audio would work. i don't have a receiver and right now i'm using a splitter to connect the red/white cables to an external speaker system. and my soundcard only has a digital input and a one cable input so i don't even know how that works. maybe i can get a cheap receiver instead? i don't even have computer speakers. *shrug*
this is all so i can read the goddamn font in sf4 and other xbox titles. whack.
monitor is the way to go!! I had a 19'' widescreen for my computer and played MGS4 on my regular TV... it sucked.
but sum1 on srk told me I can go HD using a computer monitor... it only costed me less than $20 and now I can read everything!! it's beautiful!!
all u need is a HDMI->DVI cable to connect your system to the monitor, and u can connect the sound from the s-video cable to the line-in on your computer.
so technically, u can only use either the computer or your game system. U can switch displays between the two, but if both systems are making sound then you will hear both sounds unless you keep one system quiet or on mute.
So I'm doing Ken's Challenge rooms and it tells me to
j.HK
HK
MP DP
and then some other shit. I can not get the mp dp to come out for the life of me. I just spent 20 minutes trying to get the timing figured out. Tips?
try to just focus on doing the HK->mp shoryu.
I think u can only cancel a close HK, which is different from a far HK, so maybe you need to adjust your jump-in
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 07:39 PM
Yep. The screen says
Jump Heavy Kick
Heavy Kick
Medium Shoryuken
Ex Focus Attack.
Ohh, I though you ment Medium Punch, not a Medium Shoryuken. Make sure you're jumping in deep so when you do the HK the animation is diffrent. You can't link into a Shoryuken with a nomral HK, you must be close. You should finish doing the medium shoryuken as the HK hits. Same with the focus attack. It must register with the first hit of the Shoryuken. It's all very quick.
I'm in the same boat as JEKKI. Siting at work reading about how much fun you guys are having. :( Oh well, I got Thuirsday & Friday off :)
DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Damn Jekki that was it. My brain doesn't work fast enough to string that shit together. Bring on the muscle memory
I really like Sagat I have a winning record online, such a great game
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Already Dee Jay & T. Hawk are rumored to be some new chaarcters. This is quoted from Fighters Generaion:
An interview with Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono from a recent Famitsu blog reveals that both T. Hawk and Dee Jay have already been developed into to pre-texturing 3D models. For T. Hawk, the developers even went so far as to come up with plans for how the he would fight in SF IV. "If there's demand from users, we're ready to revive them at any point." said Ono.
Famitsu asked Ono to explain how they decided which characters would make it into the home versions of SF IV. The selection process, he explained, was by a vote conducted in America. The voting was done with "light" users and "core" users alike. Characters like Cammy and Fei Long were in the top ranks of the light users. Rose and Gen were tops with the core users.
Ono added that those who stick with SF IV for a long time could see some "nice announcements." Famitsu asked if this means that players can look forward to a SF IV Dash ("Dash" is the Japanese version of Championship Edition). Ono responded: "I'd truly like to personally do this! Of course, demand from users is required. So please show your support!"
kainzero
02-18-2009, 07:59 PM
all u need is a HDMI->DVI cable to connect your system to the monitor, and u can connect the sound from the s-video cable to the line-in on your computer.
so technically, u can only use either the computer or your game system. U can switch displays between the two, but if both systems are making sound then you will hear both sounds unless you keep one system quiet or on mute.
well
i'd still have to buy the HDMI cable for the 360. dang. but luckily my monitor supports HDMI input.
but i think it'll work, i just have to clean my desk so i have room for the speakers...
EDIT: wait. my xbox doesn't have hdmi. wtf yoz~
BustaUppa
02-18-2009, 08:22 PM
Already Dee Jay & T. Hawk are rumored to be some new chaarcters. This is quoted from Fighters Generaion:
As long as this is an add-on to the game I already have, and they don't try to act like we're back in the SNES days, I'm down!
xGunCrazyx
02-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Grabbed a CE at Best Buy today
The game is really awesome so far
Only reason I have to put it down is so that I can study for the exam I have in about an hour lol
Me and my brother were playing, he was kicking my ass for a few minutes (and he's not much of a fighting game guy)
I'm just used to Chun-Li being so fast in SF2HD, so it feels kinda weird playing in SFIV
Can't wait till my Tournament Edition sticks show up on the 25th,
I think I killed my wireless 360 analog stick playing HD Remix...
Bah, no [unreserved] SFIV PS3 CEs at my local BB. I'll just have to settle for regular 360 from GS after work and hope DD has a copy allocated to me for whenever the heck they receive it. :p
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 08:35 PM
As long as this is an add-on to the game I already have, and they don't try to act like we're back in the SNES days, I'm down!
I agree. I remember when SFIV was first announced they mentioned something about downloadable characters as a possiblity. But if they're charging $20 for a costume pack I'm scared to see the price for a few new chaarcters.
Sarang01
02-18-2009, 09:01 PM
Woah having Rose?! I loved Rose in SFA.
edit: Hey if we can get cleaned up fighters this way(online copy) in HD how about they give us at least a home version of "Warzard" even if it's not HD? Great looking game and interesting concepts.
http://madcatz.com/wallscroll/
DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Anyone up for a match or twelve on the tripple?
asianxcore
02-18-2009, 09:56 PM
Anyone up for a match or twelve on the tripple?
I'm down for a match or twelve if you are up for it Puma.
I'll be on PSN...while eating Oatmeal..mmmm
DarthPuma
02-18-2009, 10:05 PM
I gotta do some quick homework now, but I can send you a message when I'm ready.
suko_32
02-18-2009, 10:10 PM
Man, day 2 of SFIV till eyes bleed. going strong.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 10:21 PM
yes, 11 hours here. :lol: I might beat my 40 hours of DOA:U in a week record.
just finished unlocking everyone. HRAP EX coming in tomorrow. Gotta run through Challenges and some Training mode, then I'm gonna start playing online this weekend.
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 10:49 PM
ninja dog - Just curious, how'd you get Gouken?
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Before any of this, you have to beat the game with Akuma first.
then--
--Set it to easiest
--First two matches: get a perfect (throw hadokens, they don't block)
--Next three matches: win with Ultras
--Rest of the matches, make sure to get hit once, don't get a perfect, don't use Supers or Ultras or Ex moves.
That should do it.
winterice
02-18-2009, 10:57 PM
I need help with the challenge mode. It's the first task of the third level for Chun Li. It ask for Heavy Kick then Hyakuretsu Kyaku. I can't seem to string this together. Does distance matter? I noticed that up close heavy kick is different then when you're out further. Either way, I can't seem to pull this off.
asianxcore
02-18-2009, 11:02 PM
GG"s to Suko. Gouken is too funny.
<3 <3 Abel <3 <3
heavyd853
02-18-2009, 11:03 PM
I picked up the 360 CE at bestbuy today. I have 105 battle points!
I don't have my stick yet though, so playing on 360 has been absolutely maddening. The best I can do is a mp shoryu fadc into NOTHHHING on my 360 pad.
I dont have an mc pad either, nor is my ps3 version shipped -_-
SFIV is good stuff.
suko_32
02-18-2009, 11:03 PM
I fought asiancore's Gouken and it was my first time fighting this character. I didn't know he had counters so I kept going in at him lol.
Another funny thing is I don't know how to use this version's Vega. For some reason I accidently did EX versions of Vega taking off his claw into EX taking off his mask. Then asiancore proceeded to ultra me.
Rodimus
02-18-2009, 11:06 PM
Thanks bro, that's what I thought, just wanted to confirm it with someone. I've been reading around Gamefaqs (my first mistake) and everyone has diffrent theories. Did you set it one round per match?
heavyd853
02-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Well, its vega!
He's sub Dan tier!
His english voice is great though.
ninja dog
02-18-2009, 11:08 PM
yep, 1 round. and I dropped it to 30 seconds per round when I was winning with everyone to unlock Seth.
I'll have SFIV tomorrow hopefully. The EB near me was sold out when I went earlier this afternoon.
SmallWind
02-18-2009, 11:42 PM
:) Starting to understand how to do the El Fuerte infinite, but can't land any hits yet. Get ready AxC!
heavyd853
02-18-2009, 11:45 PM
We need to do a cag room tonight or something.
Apparently my headset broke! Cool.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-18-2009, 11:54 PM
GGs HeavyD.
Your headset was not broke.
I was not talking.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 12:16 AM
:) Starting to understand how to do the El Fuerte infinite, but can't land any hits yet. Get ready AxC!
Glad my hair is growing out. Going to pull that shit out once you learn it.
The times I have played against El Fuerte at SJSU, it's been nothing but a headache.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 12:21 AM
ahhh!~ I got it, but now I remember why I dont enjoy this game too much...
my execution is downright garbage!! I jus cant adjust to the game's speed and engine...
I thinking of maining Blanka and Dhalsim rite now... I was able to do all of Sim's challenges, but with Blanka I cant land the very last one!!!
also with Blank I was trying to do knockdown, forward hop until you cross over the opponent, Ultra.
but apparently, holding the stick towards your opponent and crossing over him does not count as charge??? I donno... but it aint working for me, I cant even get a blanka ball out.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8685/vcsigwrongslowerlm6kw9.gif
lol!!! btw, what if u pre-ordered your stick from amazon?? how am i suppose to get my free wallscroll?? or can I not??
Furashu
02-19-2009, 12:29 AM
i think i will main m bison/chun-li/e.honda just cause i dont like doing the circle moves.. lol
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 12:31 AM
I figured out the timing...
after u hop over the opponent u can either
1. do one back hop, and walk back 2.5-~3 steps
2. do two hops back.
then you will have enough charge to do a ball/super/ultra.
hopefully I can figure out the timing for hop over, one hop back, down-back charge
Knoxximus
02-19-2009, 12:33 AM
I'm hoping to get some time in tonight. If not, tomorrow for sure.
Gotta get it together for the Game Crazy tourney this Friday.
distgfx
02-19-2009, 12:34 AM
I'm hoping to get some time in tonight. If not, tomorrow for sure.
Gotta get it together for the Game Crazy tourney this Friday.
Good luck at the tourney, let us know how it goes. 8-)
lol!!! btw, what if u pre-ordered your stick from amazon?? how am i suppose to get my free wallscroll?? or can I not??
It looks like a GameStop only deal. :-#
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 12:46 AM
Viper is pretty fun from what I've played of her. That flame kick is quite a nice move to cross up with.
xGunCrazyx
02-19-2009, 01:09 AM
Man, I can't beat Seth, even on easy
He spams the living shit out of that sucking thing to grab
I maybe get 2-3 hits on him lol...
Also, my experience online has been pretty shitty
Trying to find ranked matches is hard as hell
Either they are full or "unable to join" just because lol
I'm still enjoying SFIV, just frustrated :(
Furashu
02-19-2009, 01:10 AM
for unlocking characters do u have to go through arcade mode with that 1 character or can u just die on purpose and switch when u face seth?
say for instance i use e.honda for all the rounds then die vs seth then switch to sakura would that work?
heavyd853
02-19-2009, 01:12 AM
Jump in on his ass when he does the sucky thing, free roundhouse to cr roundhouse. Just repeat 7 times! He's annoying ass hell though.
My best way to get matches was doing the arcade thingy and switching it to ranked, got 9 in like 3 seconds.
My record is 9-6!!!
-_-
Edit: Yeah fur, you can switch at seth, unless you're trying to fight gouken or gouki because they need no continues to appear.
MarkMan
02-19-2009, 01:17 AM
Got some new magazines today...
Ken who?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3292311136_026bcac6af_b.jpg
ninja dog
02-19-2009, 01:19 AM
is that...bubsy?
xGunCrazyx
02-19-2009, 01:20 AM
I'm taking a break from SFIV to play SF2HD lol
Thanks for the tips heavyd, I'll use them when I get back to IV heh
RelentlessRolento
02-19-2009, 01:26 AM
so far my fingers hurt with playing on a PS3 d-pad... time to get a fight pad.
loving it. I totally understand the new system easily (well, being in the FGT helps alot).
I've decided Dan is my main and Abel is my secondary, though abel needs alot of work on my part.
jer7583
02-19-2009, 01:35 AM
I dunno about chun yet. No AA is real frustrating. Free jump ins for everyone!
I won like 5 ranked matches with ken 2nite just by doing jump in rh constantly. Shotos are terrible.
jer7583
02-19-2009, 01:38 AM
Jump in to win! That's all there is to it!
BlueSwim
02-19-2009, 02:09 AM
is that...bubsy?
What could possibly go wrong?:rofl::rofl::rofl:
---
I hope Mad Catz takes care of those who ordered a TE from the Capcom store. I want that freaking wallscroll!!!:lol::lol::lol:
MSUHitman
02-19-2009, 02:11 AM
Before any of this, you have to beat the game with Akuma first.
then--
--Set it to easiest
--First two matches: get a perfect (throw hadokens, they don't block)
--Next three matches: win with Ultras
--Rest of the matches, make sure to get hit once, don't get a perfect, don't use Supers or Ultras or Ex moves.
That should do it.
Yes be careful you do not get too many perfects/ultras, otherwise Gouken will come out before Akuma, and you won't unlock him when you beat him. That just happened to me and frustrated the hell out of me.
dmunkee
02-19-2009, 02:11 AM
So, any CAGs finding fightpads anywhere other than Gamestop? I'm no longer the hardcore fighting fan I was to seriously throw $$ down in a stick, so this seems like my best bet. Any impressions? I do know that the DS3 is not working that great. It's those damn squishy trigger buttons :(
KingBroly
02-19-2009, 02:12 AM
MarkMan, I think the cover on the left would've been a much better boxart for SF4. I hate Ken.
You can get Akuma on Medium with Zangief by just spamming LB. No UCF's required. I got...3 Perfects I think.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 02:17 AM
Dear gigan,
Stop acting like I can't see you on my PSN friend list.
Love,
asianxcore
Pootie Thang
02-19-2009, 02:20 AM
MarkMan, I think the cover on the left would've been a much better boxart for SF4. I hate Ken.
You can get Akuma on Medium with Zangief by just spamming LB. No UCF's required. I got...3 Perfects I think.
What's LB?
MSUHitman
02-19-2009, 02:23 AM
So, any CAGs finding fightpads anywhere other than Gamestop? I'm no longer the hardcore fighting fan I was to seriously throw $$ down in a stick, so this seems like my best bet. Any impressions? I do know that the DS3 is not working that great. It's those damn squishy trigger buttons :(
No retail stores other than Gamestop/Game Crazy have PS3 pads in-store. Your best bet would be ordering from Bestbuy.com, but you're going to have to pay shipping + tax as they're not available for in-store pick up.
MSUHitman
02-19-2009, 02:24 AM
MarkMan, I think the cover on the left would've been a much better boxart for SF4. I hate Ken.
LOL! I can just imagine that box art in Wal-Mart/Target. ROFL!
RelentlessRolento
02-19-2009, 02:34 AM
sorry for declining invites for SFIV... played most of the day with a friend who came over.
Mr. Beef
02-19-2009, 02:46 AM
Damn, I was so sad I couldn't get SFIV today, so I tried playing HD Remix.
All losses online, not a single win out of like, 15+ matches. Couldn't concentrate knowing that if that SFIV shipment had gotten to the right store, I could be playing it. :cry:
suko_32
02-19-2009, 02:51 AM
Where did you preorder beef?
Furashu
02-19-2009, 02:53 AM
Where did you preorder beef?
local vons...:)
sorry to hard to resist
suko_32
02-19-2009, 02:54 AM
local vons...:)
sorry to hard to resist
lol.
Mr. Beef
02-19-2009, 02:56 AM
Where did you preorder beef?There's no Gamestops close to my house at all (mysteriously), so no preorder. Ugh, the one time I want to preorder something, and it bites me in the ass. Closest thing is some GS wannabe that looks like a mom & pop store. I really hate Sacramento.
local vons...:)
sorry to hard to resist
...I don't get it.
BlueSwim
02-19-2009, 02:59 AM
LOL! I can just imagine that box art in Wal-Mart/Target. ROFL!
Cammy's ass alone would sell another 100,000 copies.:lol::lol::lol:
---
Anybody else having trouble pulling off Supers and Ultra with the EX2? I just can't do the QCx2 motions consistently.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 03:01 AM
yo Dhalsim sux... I tried to play with him in regular 1-player mode... could only get halfway -_-
u kno what else sux?? the matchmaking for this game... seriously.
u kno what's good tho?? Blanka. I've only lost once online.
and this game is so random too, like I'm playing it and it keeps giving me achievement points.
lol, I dont even really understand what those are... but regardless if u want 10 wins in a row achievement then now is the time to get it becoz everybody online sucks!!!
regardless, I'm pretty confident with Blanka now to get dat money on friday
suko_32
02-19-2009, 03:20 AM
All I do is make my own games and boot out anyone 2 bars or less and it's great. I'm on PS3 too. Can't wait to try out the 360 version when the game and (refurbed) console comes in!
heavyd853
02-19-2009, 03:20 AM
Cammy's ass alone would sell another 100,000 copies.:lol::lol::lol:
---
Anybody else having trouble pulling off Supers and Ultra with the EX2? I just can't do the QCx2 motions consistently.
Don't touch the gates!
Man SFIV is crack, I just need to jack someones stick until mine comes in.
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 03:37 AM
Damn it's so nice to play on my HRAP2 than my jank ass modded ex2.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 03:45 AM
GG's to Option in SFHD. For one the matches I was trying to throw with LP/LK. Wow
option.iv
02-19-2009, 03:50 AM
GGs axc. You should join the STHDR CAG nights, I'm heading them now and have a new thread (link in sig). If you can make it, we'll have a CAG night tomorrow.
Those other two, anathema and denze were CAGs as well.
So what is everyone's impression of SFIV online? It's looking very mixed. Also, any graphical or gameplay differences between the PS3 and 360 versions?
Furashu
02-19-2009, 03:54 AM
i havent even played online because seth took up at least 1 hr 30 mins of my time after breezing through the dam arcade mode....
enough SF for me probably 4 hrs 30 mins lol
kainzero
02-19-2009, 04:51 AM
sf4 feels so retarded. seriously when two people are close up and jumping at each other, retardedness happens
RelentlessRolento
02-19-2009, 04:55 AM
:lol: I have the name title "Relentless" for my SFIV profile :) that made me happy.
man I suck online. then again, everyone I've played is either a shoto or a semi shoto (sagat).
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 05:00 AM
GGs, AxC. lol new Hooligan roll sucks can't grab crouched people.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 05:00 AM
GG's to SmallWind tonight SFIV. Thanks for giving me good matches/practice against a Non-Shoto character/s.
I know once Option and Beef get SFIV, I'll be getting some Dictator practice with Abel.
Also it's a little silly how much you can punish whiffed Cannon Drill with Abel. EX/Non-EX Command Throw anyone?
RelentlessRolento
02-19-2009, 05:06 AM
I'll play you some other night asian, but Seth was bothering me all night. I'm going through the game on medium with everyone, but I hate playing C Viper... >_<
I'll test out my apparently bad Dan and Abel with you tomorrow... d-pad vs stick :(
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 05:16 AM
I'll play you some other night asian, but Seth was bothering me all night. I'm going through the game on medium with everyone, but I hate playing C Viper... >_<
I'll test out my apparently bad Dan and Abel with you tomorrow... d-pad vs stick :(
I'm always up for games if I am on PSN. Just hit me up.
Anyone want to play me later? I use Balrog and sometimes Dan. Though almost all of my losses are because I was dan. Damn joker. He lowered my win total to about 75%
MarkMan
02-19-2009, 06:12 AM
The online gimmicks in this game are so wack...
I get hit by them...
! :(
Good god I'm horrible. I couldn't even beat Seth with Ryu for a while there, took me like 2 dozen tries, lol. >_<
I'd love to blame this FS EX2, but it's just me. :p
It's gonna take me a while to learn all these new characters so I can unlock more than just Sakura. Ugh.
MarkMan
02-19-2009, 06:30 AM
My main is Dictator... but the online jumpers annoyed me so much I just started picking Rufus and started dive kicking into people's cereal boxes and birthday cakes all day.
Fuck this shit...
(Sup with ppl doing Ken's fierce shoryuken like it's a poke)???
heavyd853
02-19-2009, 06:45 AM
My main is Dictator... but the online jumpers annoyed me so much I just started picking Rufus and started dive kicking into people's cereal boxes and birthday cakes all day.
Fuck this shit...
(Sup with ppl doing Ken's fierce shoryuken like it's a poke)???
This, I played like 7 people who thought FP shoryu was a 100% safe and viable option on wake, on punish, after jump ins, and at any random time. I felt bad just cr mk ex tatsu every time they landed, it made me seem like the scrub tactics for winning guy. -_-
I've played like 45 matches, and like 40 were shotos, with 2 vegas 1 sagat and like 2 blankas.
-_-
Ah well, there's still cags and people that don't suck.
Now I just hope I can get my stick in so I can finish challenge mode -_-
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 06:56 AM
LOL, online jumpy Kens don't like Rose's Sham-wow. And yeah online is wack, inputs keep getting dropped. :/
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 07:07 AM
This, I played like 7 people who thought FP shoryu was a 100% safe and viable option on wake, on punish, after jump ins, and at any random time.
Dude, it's got flames!!!
http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/shamwow.jpg
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 07:21 AM
:rofl:
akilshohen
02-19-2009, 08:01 AM
LOL, online jumpy Kens don't like Rose's Sham-wow. And yeah online is wack, inputs keep getting dropped. :/
I can't seem to beat any ken with Rose. I just beat a Gouken, and damn near killed an Akuma (all 3 rounds he had a silver of health left).
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 08:18 AM
Just play defensive with Rose against online Kens.
If a Ken is doing a random fierce srk and miss:
- you can Soul Throw them in the air.
- throw them when they land.
- cr.mp/cr.mk -> Soul Spiral (-> Super, if you have the meter) when they land.
If you have an ultra ready just wait for them to jump at you or if you're at the right distance when they fireball or anything leaving them open, give them a Shamwow(ultra).
jer7583
02-19-2009, 08:24 AM
Any tips for chun vs jumpy/roiding kens?
Ex SBK works when you have meter, but his shenanigans do SO much damage when they get through. Simple jump in rh/duck rh must do 25%.. that shit needs a nerf.
SmallWind
02-19-2009, 08:36 AM
Chun-li stuff. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=166280
jer7583
02-19-2009, 08:49 AM
Thanks!
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 09:15 AM
My main is Dictator... but the online jumpers annoyed me so much I just started picking Rufus and started dive kicking into people's cereal boxes and birthday cakes all day.
Fuck this shit...
(Sup with ppl doing Ken's fierce shoryuken like it's a poke)???
I've done that a few times and it actually works decently well since these people really suck. Couldn't get away with that on anyone who knows what they're doing though, some serious punishment would come.
I'm going to work on viper after school. I'm tired of helping the shoto problem.
I love hitting kids with c. mk->f. hurricane kick->f. shory. No one EVER blocks the shory. It's great.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 09:29 AM
There's plenty of shoto-age online.
Everyone wants to be a little Daigo. :lol:
I use Ken as a main in almost every fighting game that features him, even if he sucks in it (yes, even MvC2; noone can deny the awesome power of the hurricane kick glitch). I just like him as a character. This was before I saw the Daigo vid. Once I saw the Daigo vid, I creamed my pants.
Oh, and could someone repost that Q player video where he's making fun of the turtling Chun Li in match? I wanted to show a friend of mine, but I can't search for "Q". :cry:
ninja dog
02-19-2009, 12:31 PM
Only thing I don't feel is that great in SFIV is the music. The remixes in the rival battles are great, but afaik, that's the only time they play.
edit: you guys are surprised that there's a noob infestation online...first week of any fighter is like that. -_-
then they get beat down, discouraged, or learn to play.
I only used Sagat last night, and I think I only have seth left to unlock. I think its a awesome game.
Chacrana
02-19-2009, 12:38 PM
I liked some of the music I heard in the normal stages, though it's definitely not on par with 3rd Strike's soundtrack.
ninja dog
02-19-2009, 12:52 PM
It's alright, it's just that HDR's music is so awesome.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-19-2009, 01:00 PM
I fought 9 Kens in a row last night.
STOP BEING KEN YOU FUCKING SCRUBS!
I was normally Fei-Long or C.Viper and its just so easy to punish these fools.
blitz6speed
02-19-2009, 01:03 PM
I hate playing kens online, when they get lucky they take off too much damage, and yes they use fierce uppercut like its a jab or something, and shockingly it connects so damn often. Its really frustrating to play against a good Gief, especially since im pretty handy with gief and i usually lose to another good gief when im playing with fei long or ken, hes just so beastly.
suko_32
02-19-2009, 01:05 PM
Ken won't connect if you just bait them. It's too easy really.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-19-2009, 01:08 PM
Although I did win about 6 matches in a row last night against those Kens.
BlueSwim
02-19-2009, 01:28 PM
And, no I didn't see any track listing for the CE. Maybe Capcom will release one postlaunch for us. I just posted a thread asking.
Your thread worked. Thank you!:D:D:D
The CD includes the themes of:
Seth
Abel
Akuma
Vega(BlueSwim's Note: Dictator/M. Bison in the U.S.)
C.Viper
Cammy
ChunLi
El Fuerte
Gouken
Guile
Ken
Rose
FeiLong
Ryu
Sagat
Sakura
Zangief
(in that order)
kainzero
02-19-2009, 01:29 PM
Ken won't connect if you just bait them. It's too easy really.
it's really cool when you try to do two c.lks as a blockstring and they do reversal fierce SRK in the middle.
Knoxximus
02-19-2009, 02:03 PM
I'll be on in 30 mins. Name your console as I just got my CE for PS3 yesterday and its installed and ready to go.
If you don't want shoto fever, I can drag out Dictator, Guile, or Blanka.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 02:13 PM
edit: you guys are surprised that there's a noob infestation online...first week of any fighter is like that. -_-
then they get beat down, discouraged, or learn to play.no, it's surprising becoz lots of ppl have been playing and getting good at HDR.
like I dont play Blanka, but I kno enough about street fighter to get a 25 win streak online... the skills and experience should transfer over albeit at a slightly scrubby yet somewhat competent level.
the only reason I broke my streak was becoz I was trying to get the medal where you win by judgement,
but turtling on a 99 second timer... not a good idea.
So I made my own custom match and set it to 30 seconds, got my achievement!!!
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 02:21 PM
Your thread worked. Thank you!:D:D:D
That mods not an actual rep of Capcom, I believe. It's good that we have an answer at all, I suppose, so hopefully those tracks are right.
I adore the rival remixes. I think they're fantastic. The other music, I like too, but not nearly as much. I'm not sure what some people were expecting with the music.
Furashu
02-19-2009, 02:45 PM
yes i unlocked dan... now only 3 characters left woo
Pootie Thang
02-19-2009, 03:00 PM
no, it's surprising becoz lots of ppl have been playing and getting good at HDR.
like I dont play Blanka, but I kno enough about street fighter to get a 25 win streak online... the skills and experience should transfer over albeit at a slightly scrubby yet somewhat competent level.
the only reason I broke my streak was becoz I was trying to get the medal where you win by judgement,
but turtling on a 99 second timer... not a good idea.
So I made my own custom match and set it to 30 seconds, got my achievement!!!
I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 03:03 PM
I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.
lmao, that sounds like the most boring fight ever. You should've focus absorbed some of the fireballs if he didn't use any EX fireballs. Then just jumped over and busted his ass with a Shinryuken.
Huh, I tried Viper after my first arcade run-through as Ryu and I beat Seth in like two tries.
I had a harder time with Abel. -_-
Mr. Beef
02-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Finally got it! Installing now! 8D
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 03:39 PM
What's the best wakeup counter to Abel's Tornado Throw? It seems like if it's timed well, it snuffs practically everything except a guessed Shoryuken.
MarkMan
02-19-2009, 03:41 PM
What's the best wakeup counter to Abel's Tornado Throw? It seems like if it's timed well, it snuffs practically everything except a guessed Shoryuken.
Not be in range...
If he whiffs it you can hurt him good.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
Not be in range...
If he whiffs it you can hurt him good.
I mean if he does it while you're waking and times it perfectly. He can put himself within range. I haven't fully tested it out, I mean desperately dashing backwards might be enough to get out of range fast enough. I only played as Abel once and it seemed really effective, but it's pure speculation without playing further.
Ronin317
02-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Ah well, there's still cags and people that don't suck.
Wait...what if I'm both?:-#
I mean if he does it while you're waking and times it perfectly. He can put himself within range. I haven't fully tested it out, I mean desperately dashing backwards might be enough to get out of range fast enough. I only played as Abel once and it seemed really effective, but it's pure speculation without playing further.
Can you EX through command grabs?
kainzero
02-19-2009, 03:46 PM
Wait...what if I'm both?:-#
they're not mutually exclusive
cag people tend to suck
^_-
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Can you EX through command grabs?
I'm not entirely sure. I know you can perform a general move counter upon wakeup, which is sure to have invincibility frames, but that ultimately comes down to a guessing game... and can be very punished if guessed incorrectly (in the case of a blocked Shoryuken). I'm guessing something like an EX Spinning Bird Kick would be safe to perform and have priority. I'm just wondering if there's a universal tactic against it. Maybe it's something stupid, like mashing C.lp.
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 03:53 PM
Woo hoo! Internet is back up! Time to get my ass kicked online :D
Went to Fry's just for the heck of it and ended up having a good convo with two guys there, apparently SFIV has reunited all gamers for one common goal, ass beatings 8-)
What's this 1.01 patch?
Edit: Tried doing network battle on PSN but I keep getting no hits, I can't even create a session ???:/
Ronin317
02-19-2009, 04:16 PM
they're not mutually exclusive
cag people tend to suck
^_-
And I pretty much use Ken only online, because I'm not strong enough with any other character, except akuma or rose, who i haven't unlocked yet.
:bomb: I hate myself for you guys. :D
heavyd853
02-19-2009, 04:20 PM
Can't you jump through a wakeup abel command throw?
I don't remember what I did but I had no problem with that.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 04:20 PM
I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.yeay, but problem is I cant do that with Blanka.
if I wanna counter a fireball, I either go offensive or block, and blocking didnt do any good coz it jus made my opponent rush me.
but going offensive woulda killed my opponent lol... so I had no choice but to keep blocking and eventually lose
I'm planning to rotate Sagat and Viper for now. El Fuerte has been kind of difficult for me to wrap my head around so far--same with Abel. I could really do whatevers though. Blanka, Guile, Chun Li, Claw, Dictator...whoever. I'm really going to concentrate on playing through arcade mode to try and unlock everything first. Hopefully that gives me more time to practice.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 04:22 PM
Can't you jump through a wakeup abel command throw?
I don't remember what I did but I had no problem with that.
lol, maybe. I don't think anyone tried that while I was playing. :D
yeay, but problem is I cant do that with Blanka.
if I wanna counter a fireball, I either go offensive or block, and blocking didnt do any good coz it jus made my opponent rush me.
but going offensive woulda killed my opponent lol... so I had no choice but to keep blocking and eventually lose
I probably sound like a broken record, but focus cancel? I mean, it's a risk to do it, but you'll be gaining your Revenge Gauge at the same time with (hopefully) no permanent damage to your health bar. Whenever I see fireballs on screen, I automatically look at them as Revenge Meter powerups. Focus, backdash, focus, backdash.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 04:38 PM
true, but if they are relentless with the fireballs then you will never have time to recharge your life.
and if u sit there blocking trying to recharge, you will take chip damage from the fireballs.
focusing for meter is VERY risky, maybe not at this point where nobody is real good yet but down the line I dont think it would be a wise decision.
BlueSwim
02-19-2009, 04:42 PM
Dtoid's RetroforceGO! podcast (http://www.destructoid.com/retroforcego-records-episode-80-tonight-motherf-cking-street-fighter-122119.phtml) is recording their Street Fighter episode tonight in case any of you want to get some questions in.
hankmecrankme
02-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I'm finally getting SFIV today. Yeah, about time. I'll be bringing Gief to the party. I can't wait to go crush some Kens online. :)
SPD after FP SRK whiff, anyone?
djbooba
02-19-2009, 04:47 PM
If anyone wants to get some matches with my Gief, Abel, or Boxer, hit me up on PS3. I should be on for the a while.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 04:47 PM
true, but if they are relentless with the fireballs then you will never have time to recharge your life.
and if u sit there blocking trying to recharge, you will take chip damage from the fireballs.
focusing for meter is VERY risky, maybe not at this point where nobody is real good yet but down the line I dont think it would be a wise decision.
Yeah, with advanced level play I don't see it being entirely viable... or at least doing it constantly anyway. In the fireball trap you gave, you'll get chipped away, but if they don't attack more aggressively you'll never suffer any substantial damage... until he realizes to throw out an EX fireball.
Although at the same time I don't see someone spamming fireballs as particularly advanced either. If someone's spamming fireballs and doing nothing else, they probably don't know much more than that.
Doesn't Blanka have some crouching/sliding dodges against fireball spam?
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 04:49 PM
Doesn't Blanka have some crouching/sliding counters against fireball spam?
Oh right. Does he still have the downforward Fierce?
heavyd853
02-19-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm finally getting SFIV today. Yeah, about time. I'll be bringing Gief to the party. I can't wait to go crush some Kens online. :)
SPD after FP SRK whiff, anyone?
Is chac still crying about people playing new games?
My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.
Oh right. Does he still have the downforward Fierce?
Yeah, I didn't get to play as him last night, but I thought DF+F and D+LP+MP+HP both slide/dodge under fireballs.
I got the PS3 version today. I'm going to file my taxes next week. If the rebate is good enough I'll try to pick up a Fight Pad and the 360 version later on down the line.
hankmecrankme
02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Is chac still crying about people playing new games?
My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.
:rofl: Yeah, he's always bitching about new games, because he's all into that retro gaming nonsense. Bernie Stolar was right, Saturn is dead, let it go man, let it go. . .
Just kidding, I love my Saturn. :grouphug:
I also broke my mic by running the cable over with my chair. I have others, but they either suck worse than the 360 mic, or I have to yell into them. I need to either fix them or get a new one. I want a wireless mic so badly.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-19-2009, 05:31 PM
Is chac still crying about people playing new games?
My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.
Insert Chacrana quote about shit being good only if its A. Japanese. B. Obsceure. C. Old.
Knoxximus
02-19-2009, 05:41 PM
Just got done playing on the 360. Playing open arcade mode is definitely the way to go to get challengers easily. My BP is a little under 600, but I feel like I'm finally starting to get used to the timing a bit. And yeah, online is DEFINITELY Shoto City.
Another thing I would like to mention is the subtlety of the Sanwa JLF is really starting to grow on me. During my initial breaking in of my TE stick, at 1st I thought it was kinda janky, In actuality, I'm just used to throwing around Happ competitions and P360's for my whole damn life. Once I calmed down a little bit, and focused more on finesse and form over power and slapping, things started to flow beautifully. I finally get what the fuss about JPN joysticks are all about.
You guys and this thread have been very helpful to me thus far, I appreciate it.
Furashu
02-19-2009, 05:41 PM
yes i beat seth with abel... dont understand how to use abel.. yet
yes i beat seth with abel... dont understand how to use abel.. yet
What did you do? mid range into wheel kicks? I want to unlock Fei, but I really don't understand how to use Abel yet either.
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Rufus FTW!
Furashu
02-19-2009, 05:55 PM
What did you do? mid range into wheel kicks? I want to unlock Fei, but I really don't understand how to use Abel yet either.
i gotta learn my SF jargon.. lol
i did easy, 30 seconds 1 round
all i did was block his yoga arms then advance block his sonic boom then if he walked i swept him.
if he sucked me in with his stomach id block then if he was kicking low id mid kick, if he was kicking mid id sweep his legs,
then id back up let him do the diagnol jump from the right screen to the left and id high kick so hed fly back then id focus attack him and itd usually hit, after u focus attack sweep him when he falls..
took about 10-15 tries though
Knoxximus
02-19-2009, 05:58 PM
Hey guys, how do you negate Abel's grab when your character is waking up? An Abel player will knock me down, wait for me to get up, then immediately grab me again. Do I need to get up grabbing with LP+LK to get a tech to negate it?
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 06:02 PM
All I did was make enough room to have him throw out some sonic booms,
(Someone translate this into fighter language) jump in with fierce punches and crouching h.kicks. Everytime I tried to get fancy he'd somehow interrupt with his damn teleporting Zangief throw >:(
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 06:04 PM
Hey guys, how do you negate Abel's grab when your character is waking up? An Abel player will knock me down, wait for me to get up, then immediately grab me again. Do I need to get up grabbing with LP+LK to get a tech to negate it?
If he's using the Tornado throw you can't do that since it's a command throw, but I think you can just crouch to avoid it?
Chacrana
02-19-2009, 06:10 PM
Insert Chacrana quote about shit being good only if its A. Japanese. B. Obsceure. C. Old.
But guys, I got SFIV! Not gonna play it till tomorrow, but it's sitting here.
*Floody* is just mad that he played through Fable II like a bitch. Also, Prince of Persia, Banjo Kazooie, and Sonic Unleashed. What a vocal minority.
Edit: You a bitch.
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 06:48 PM
Doing vipers challenges and am completely stuck on H. Kick to Emergency combination. I've tried everything, any tips?
Chacrana
02-19-2009, 06:51 PM
Is chac still crying about people playing new games?
My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.
I was trying to get you to respond to something by berating your purchasing SF4, but nooo "the mic was broken." Sure, sure. I see right through your rouse.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 06:58 PM
If anyone wants to play on PSN, I'm on so hit me up.
I want to get as many games as possible in since I'll be in Los Angeles/Orange County with a friend Friday-Sunday.
If he's using the Tornado throw you can't do that since it's a command throw, but I think you can just crouch to avoid it?
I don't think that works, but I still haven't figured Abel out.
GuardianE
02-19-2009, 06:59 PM
I don't think that works, but I still haven't figured Abel out.
No, you can't crouch under it. From what I've seen, Abel's Tornado Throw is awesome.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 07:17 PM
Doesn't Blanka have some crouching/sliding dodges against fireball spam?allow me to reiterate...
I did not want to kill my opponent! I wanted to win by having more life at the end of the timer!!
Blanka's sliding punch does wonders against shotos, I dont kno about anybody else but Ken & Ryu's fireball recovery makes Blanka's slide rather safe. Regardless I use it all the time when I wanna kill someone.
regardless, I already got the achievement so no need to worry about it anymore.
yes i beat seth with abel... dont understand how to use abel.. yet
also with Abel... close crouching fierce -> ultra FTW!!
you can dash cancel his standing forward kick, into a close crouching fierce... to do the dash cancel I would input towards + MK, towards. Guilty Gear style executions.
or when you get more advanced, you can focus dash cancel the first his of his qcf+P move into a close crouching fierce.
his jumping forward kick is REAL good too for jumping in and I *think* it crosses up.
crouching forward, crouching strong, and standing fierce can all cancel into his qcf+P as well.
FloodsAreUponUS
02-19-2009, 07:23 PM
so it looks like my router was causing most of my DC problems.
Fuck D-Link yo, nothing but shitty products.
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 07:27 PM
I have a D-Link Gaming router D:
Been running like a champ ever since I got it like 2 years ago
No, you can't crouch under it. From what I've seen, Abel's Tornado Throw is awesome.
Yea, my mistake. It's just all a matter of timing, sometimes it just looks like they crouch under it when you mistime the grab :/
I cleared up some spaces on my Friends list so I can send some friend requests to you guys who got the PS3.
Sent some out, a couple already accepted. Internet connection won't be up to snuff til' after 5-5:30ish.
Note: C.Viper fking ownz.
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 08:17 PM
or when you get more advanced, you can focus dash cancel the first his of his qcf+P move into a close crouching fierce.
his jumping forward kick is REAL good too for jumping in and I *think* it crosses up.
crouching forward, crouching strong, and standing fierce can all cancel into his qcf+P as well.
If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), you can EX COD ---->FADC--->Cr.HP---->Falling Sky/Ultra.
You are right, j.mk does cross up. Also I know it's basic knowledge, but Abel's roll builds meter.
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 08:18 PM
C viper does fucking own. Her challenge is a BITCH though.
Furashu
02-19-2009, 08:20 PM
can someone explain how to do guiles flash explosion? do i just go from right to left then diagonal up?
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 08:23 PM
I figured out how to buffer that HK to EC thanks to shory and it is fucking awesome, I can see myself using that a lot. First move I've ever learned to do that on. Problem is the god damn challenge mode doesn't accept that.
EDIT: got it, again thanks to shory. For anyone else stuck on it, you hit HK, very quickly do the qcf x2 motion, and then hit punch AS SOON AS the kick connects. The buffer way is sooo much easier though.
JEKKI
02-19-2009, 08:24 PM
fuuuuuck... I jus read ABDC spoilers for tonite.
anyway, I posted this before but u guys should check out the SFIV guide at 1UP!!!
http://mycheats.1up.com/view/superguide/3163881/street_fighter_4/xbox_360
they currently got Dhalsim strats up!! gotta read dat shyt soon!!
it's being written by Haunts who I think is kinda well known. Definitely bookmark that shyt!!
If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), you can EX COD ---->FADC--->Cr.HP---->Falling Sky/Ultra.
You are right, j.mk does cross up. Also I know it's basic knowledge, but Abel's roll builds meter.yeay but if you do the EX version plus focus cancel, that's 75% of your combo meter... it's much smarter to focus cancel the regular COD.
it's not like Rufus who can only ultra off EX messiah kick (altho Rufus also has many other ways to land Ultra)
asianxcore
02-19-2009, 08:26 PM
it's being written by Haunts who I think is kinda well known.
NOOOORRRCALLLLLLLLLL
zewone
02-19-2009, 08:27 PM
I want a wireless mic so badly.
A wireless mic is a godsend when using an arcade stick, or any controller for that matter.
Highly recommend.
ninja dog
02-19-2009, 08:31 PM
no, it's surprising becoz lots of ppl have been playing and getting good at HDR.
like I dont play Blanka, but I kno enough about street fighter to get a 25 win streak online... the skills and experience should transfer over albeit at a slightly scrubby yet somewhat competent level.
the only reason I broke my streak was becoz I was trying to get the medal where you win by judgement,
but turtling on a 99 second timer... not a good idea.
So I made my own custom match and set it to 30 seconds, got my achievement!!!
HDR is "old" in Xbox Live time. The first few weeks of HDR was freebie time for online achievements, now most of who is left put up a decent fight, though you get the occasional clueless guy. If you go on DoA:U, DoA4, SF:Anniversary, MK:Ultimate, SF2:Turbo, Tekken 5, or any older fighting game, you'll play people who know the game, but the first weeks of those games was mostly people who bought the game on a whim and hadn't played many fighters before.
Just saying, give it time for the cream to rise to the top and rack up the online achievements while its ripe for the picking.
Which I'll be doing tonight with my new HRAP!!! Yay!
after I pick the cellophane out from under the buttons.
DarthPuma
02-19-2009, 08:43 PM
Ex seismic hammer to ex burning kick is fuckin siiiiiick.
Jimbo Slice
02-19-2009, 09:15 PM
Damn, I love SF4 and all, but it has some of the worst AI for a fighting game I've seen since UMK3.
Inf^Shini
02-19-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm thinking of picking up the HRAP 3 stick for the PS3. For $80 and from what I've heard, I guess it would do well as my first stick.
Furashu
02-19-2009, 09:16 PM
Damn, I love SF4 and all, but it has some of the worst AI for a fighting game I've seen since UMK3.
guess ure easily beating seth?