General Fighting Game Thread #48 Turbo - !quote 16 ^_^

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I'm really mad. My fightpad just won't recognize QCF while my character's facing the right side anymore. No matter how hard I try, no matter how many times I do it, it always recognizes it as FDF (Forward, Down, Forward). And because MadCatz underproduced the darn thing, I can't go out and get a replacement.

This happens to all of them.

[Halo05]

Hey, how do you guys feel about King of Fighters 99 or KOF 2000? Definitely worth picking up, or not so much? I remember liking the striker system back in the day, but I dunno.

Picking up on what system? I like the NESTS Saga collection for import PS2. It has both versions of '99 available. I can't remember if it runs in pro scan but I can check if you need to know. I think it's a "Greatest Hits" thing in Japan now so it should be cheap.

[Inf^Shini]

I can't decide who I should learn as my non shoto. I like viper, but her shit is so technical. Some of the combos and things you have to learn as her are just insanely hard. You need superhuman reflexes for that shit. I also like Balrog, but that $$$$a is heavy and I suck with charge characters. I also really like abel.

What do you guys think?
Viper does have a bit steep of a learning curve, so I've started using Bison a lot more now til' I can stick an octagonal gate in my stick. I was off yesterday though, everytime I was gonna combo into a super/ultra, I ended up teleporting and I got my ass handed to me by Chun Li :/

[KingBroly]

This happens to all of them.

So what you're saying is I'm screwed? I can't call them (MadCatz) up and they'll replace it?

[FloodsAreUponUS]

So what you're saying is I'm screwed? I can't call them (MadCatz) up and they'll replace it?
Probably not.

They have production issues with their slaves in china.

[KingBroly]

Probably not.

They have production issues with their slaves in china.

Guessing they wouldn't fix it, either. Even though it's still under their warranty.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

It was a Mad Catz product. I knew I was taking a chance when I bought it.

[Furashu]

Viper does have a bit steep of a learning curve, so I've started using Bison a lot more now til' I can stick an octagonal gate in my stick. I was off yesterday though, everytime I was gonna combo into a super/ultra, I ended up teleporting and I got my ass handed to me by Chun Li :/

same the movement is basically the same, i did it incredibly slow in training mode and he still teleported :bomb::bomb:

[hankmecrankme]

Hey, how do you guys feel about King of Fighters 99 or KOF 2000? Definitely worth picking up, or not so much? I remember liking the striker system back in the day, but I dunno.

I still like both of them. '99 brought in some characters that I like to use, mainly K'. 2000 is really sweet, better than '99 IMO, and definitely way better than 2001 : The Shitfest.

[Chacrana]

Cool, I'll pick up 2000 then. DC version, since it has the awesome arranged soundtrack.

[gigan54]

ggs RR. I feel so ashamed aout that loss. lol

so I've already got 3000+ bp and i'm feeling pretty good about myself
:)

[DarthPuma]

Anyone want to go a few rounds?

I've decided I'll learn Abel next. I want to get better with ken first though.

[JEKKI]

can someone please explain what are the advantages of doing dash cancels or ex focus cancels? i read about this in the strategy guide, but why the heck would u wanna cancel a move?


two reasons to do focus cancel,

one is to safely recover from a blocked move that would leave you hella open to attack (i.e. a shoryuken)

another reason is to extend combos, similar to Guilty Gear roman cancels. For example, with Ryu you can do fierce punch -> jab shoryu -> focus cancel -> ultra.

dumb question but I am going to bed in a bit so I don't want to turn the game on to cofirm:

are back dash cancels allowed or is it only forward?


you can dash fancel out of focus charge both forwards and backwards.

btw, when I get my PS3 copy we should play. I'll beat you until you stop using Dan lol

thanks for the quick replies guys!
its funn learning more advance stuff...

trying to get solid with blanka!

does anyone know how to do his.
1) bite?
2) bite then throw?

i saw it in a few videos.

and and whats pianoing? i keep seeing it on srk forums lol

also is there a way to like save up charges to do his horizontal roll attack?


his bite is a regular throw, his throw is a backwards throw, there is no bite and throw.

piano is hitting multiple buttons to do a rapid button execution move. For example, to do electricity you need to mash punch 5 times. You can choose one punch button, and repeatedly mash on it til the move comes out, or you can do a "piano" style move on your joystick where you use all your fingers and hit all 3 punch buttons in a rapid succession. This makes your move come out much faster, and the last button pressed prior to the move coming out determines the strength of the move.

as far saving charging, any particular examples?? It is hard btw, I have a lot of trouble doing horizontal balls out of jump ins.

My favorite super is gone. My chains are gone. The fun is gone.


Someone post a video or something that will keep me playing Gen :-?


lol, stop playing Gen. I tried him, he's tough. If u reall wanna play him, wait for sum1 else to learn him lol

[Furashu]

can u focus absorb super moves or ultra combos?


well like how do u save charge a horizontal roll? i didnt even know u could doit lol.

and how do u dash cancel i see people doit but when i try it i cant pull it off, say after a horiz roll, do u dash forward twice before it hits or after it hits? and how do u ex cancel?

[distgfx]

FA can only absorb one hit and some moves can break through it.

[refusedchaos]

Anyone want to go a few rounds?

I've decided I'll learn Abel next. I want to get better with ken first though.

ill do a few rounds...though i suck though XD

[Furashu]

god just lost to a sagat, he kept tigering and the duck is too slow sometimes, or when id vertical roll hed tiger uppercut lol
almost beat him both rounds though. its fun playing against shotos when theyre trying to keep blanka at distance then hiding under then slide hitting them

finally having some kind of strategy... woo!! thanks for answering my various questions guys, donno whats prioritized over what and what can block what...


any tips on canceling stuff?

what moves exactly can be canceled? only supers or like the normal horz roll?

[DarthPuma]

ill do a few rounds...though i suck though XD

I'm on, just send me an invite.

[JEKKI]

can u focus absorb super moves or ultra combos?


well like how do u save charge a horizontal roll? i didnt even know u could doit lol.

and how do u dash cancel i see people doit but when i try it i cant pull it off, say after a horiz roll, do u dash forward twice before it hits or after it hits? and how do u ex cancel?


focus charge has one point of "EX Armor" in it, so it can absorb one hit. Since Supers and Ultras are multi hit, the focus can at best absorb the first hit, but you will still get hit by the combo since you are unable to block after the absorption.

Also sum moves can break armor, these are listed in the movelist. (Horizontal Blanka Ball, hurricane kick are examples of armor breaking moves)

in regards to charge saving, say for example u want to do jump in Roundhouse, cr. short, blanka ball. You would jump in and immediately hold back, hit roundhouse, land, move your joystick to down-back, hit short, then hit forward and punch. Since you have been holding the stick back the whole time, that would count as your charge. However, if you're holding forward and cross over your opponent so that your forward switches to a backwards, that is not considered a charge unfortunately.

lol, does that make any sense??

there's a charging property with the focus attack as well, I'll explain that later.

lastly, focus dash cancels and EX cancels are the same thing, except one performs a focus attack, the other performs a dash cancel which interrupts the actual focus attack.

so see a basic EX cancel choose Ryu. Do a close standing fierce and immediately press mp+mk, you will flash gold and cancel the recovery of the fierce punch into a focus attack. Furthermore, instead of jus pressing mp+mk you can hold it down and you will do focus charge.

To see focus dash cancel (FADC), do the same close fierce except input your focus cancel as toward+mp+mk, toward or backwards+mp+mk, backwards. This is similar to roman canceling in Guilty Gear. You will flash gold but instead of performing a focus attack, you will either dash forward or backwards.

hope that helps.

[JEKKI]

about the charging property of focus attacks>>

holding your focus has a property in it that registers a down-back charge for your character, allowing charge move characters to follow up with a charge move during their combo.

let's say I hold down my focus for 30 frames, either the game gives you 30 frames of charge, or it gives you a standard amount regardless of how long you hold down the focus. I really dont kno for sure, but testing this with both level 2 and 3 focus I believe it to be the latter (i.e. a set amount of charge)

so with Blanka I could hold focus while leaving my joystick in NEUTRAL. Release focus, IMMEDIATELY tap toward,toward to buffer my forward dash, then IMMEDIATELY hold my joystick down-back to go back into charging. Once The dash comes out and I recover, I can do a crouching short into Blanka Ball. The system gave me enough charge to be able to execute the Blanka Ball after the crouching short, altho I do have to wait like a split second after dashing forward (i.e. had I done the cr.short IMMEDIATELY after the dash, my ball wouldnt have came out, but had I waited to long to do the cr.short, the opponent woulda falled back and the combo wouldnt work... plz practice on your own to understand this)

my favorite combo is focus attack, cr. short, blanka ball XX super!!!

[hankmecrankme]

Cool, I'll pick up 2000 then. DC version, since it has the awesome arranged soundtrack.

PS2 version does too, and it's dirt cheap. US version comes with a free KOF2001 Special Collector's Edition Drink Coaster.

[DarthPuma]

ggs refused, I got to go get my sister but I'll be on later.

[refusedchaos]

I'm on, just send me an invite.

GG bro.;)

[Inf^Shini]

Furashu, have you gone through Challenge Mode at all???

That pretty much gives you the basic rundown for all the characters, oh and read the manual, I learned how to cancel out of a Focus attack and other basic things from there.

[PhrostByte]

Hai guys.. I got all costumes, taunts, and all characters except Seth unlocked. So.. I was in arcade mode playing with Balrog. Please tell me why I ultra combo'd Chun-Li and he says something like "Even after this I bet I could still make money off of you." I was thinking.. what? And then in his ending movie he opens a filing cabinet with this gloves on... does that guy ever take his gloves off of?

[Furashu]

thanks jekki for all the info ive been wondering all that stuff and learning as i go. very helpful information :D

yeah Inf^shini i did read it and ive been doing the challenge mode but got stuck on trial 4 for blanka as i did not know the timing of the cancels

[Inf^Shini]

thanks jekki for all the info ive been wondering all that stuff and learning as i go. very helpful information :D

yeah Inf^shini i did read it and ive been doing the challenge mode but got stuck on trial 4 for blanka as i did not know the timing of the cancels
Yea I know how that is >.>

I gotta keep going at it til' I find the correct timing and even then I still have to practice to execute it consistently.

Right now I'm stuck on Bison's trial 4 at the part where you have to go knee press>Super. I don't know why I can't get it out :bomb:

[suko_32]

Hai guys.. I got all costumes, taunts, and all characters except Seth unlocked. So.. I was in arcade mode playing with Balrog. Please tell me why I ultra combo'd Chun-Li and he says something like "Even after this I bet I could still make money off of you." I was thinking.. what? And then in his ending movie he opens a filing cabinet with this gloves on... does that guy ever take his gloves off of?

Imagine him trying to use a keyboard 0_0

[ninja dog]

Imagine him trying to use a keyboard 0_0


he uses one in the cartoon. it's in one of Switcher's videos that jekki posted the other day.

[jer7583]

I spent quite a while today practicing FADC through fireballs, since it's pretty important for chun. It's not that hard, builds a ton of revenge too.

[Chacrana]

I spent quite a while today practicing FADC through fireballs, since it's pretty important for chun. It's not that hard, builds a ton of revenge too.

Can you FADC through fireballs quickly enough that you can basically run up on someone who's spamming them?

[Zmonkay]

It was a Mad Catz product. I knew I was taking a chance when I bought it.

So it's a good thing I haven't found one yet? That's too bad. Anyone know where I can get those Sega Saturn style PC USB controllers that were around over summer? I COMPLETELY forgot to buy a couple, even though I bookmarked the page. Now, they're stupid expensive. Was like 20 or so for one or two, now it's 45.00 for one. argh.
(these btw)
http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_fromZR46QQ_sopZ10?_nkw=sega+usb

[distgfx]

So it's a good thing I haven't found one yet? That's too bad. Anyone know where I can get those Sega Saturn style PC USB controllers that were around over summer? I COMPLETELY forgot to buy a couple, even though I bookmarked the page. Now, they're stupid expensive. Was like 20 or so for one or two, now it's 45.00 for one. argh.
(these btw)
http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_fromZR46QQ_sopZ10?_nkw=sega+usb

That's because they're all the gray ones. Those are more expensive. Odd that there aren't any black ones in your search. The black ones go for under $30 shipped...

[gigan54]

So it's a good thing I haven't found one yet? That's too bad. Anyone know where I can get those Sega Saturn style PC USB controllers that were around over summer? I COMPLETELY forgot to buy a couple, even though I bookmarked the page. Now, they're stupid expensive. Was like 20 or so for one or two, now it's 45.00 for one. argh.
(these btw)
http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_fromZR46QQ_sopZ10?_nkw=sega+usb

i bought two of those on markman's good word and have been thuroughly pleased. i bought the pair for 30 shipped and i've used it for 3S and now sf4. it's easily the best feeling saturn style pad i've ever owned.

[Chacrana]

I'm using my friend's SF4 pad (which I stole until I get a stick) and I do think it's definitely a well-designed controller... and it hasn't crapped out yet, which is good. I do think the d-pad is definitely too big (definitely prefer the Saturn pad by far), but it's a hell of a lot better than the 360's default pad and it's probably better than any d-pad since the Saturn.

[distgfx]

I'm using my friend's SF4 pad (which I stole until I get a stick) and I do think it's definitely a well-designed controller... and it hasn't crapped out yet, which is good. I do think the d-pad is definitely too big (definitely prefer the Saturn pad by far), but it's a hell of a lot better than the 360's default pad and it's probably better than any d-pad since the Saturn.

Finally, someone shares my opinion of the pad.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I think I might be done with SF4, its just not as good as 3S.

Shits way to safe on everything, and its just plain annoying all the time.

[Furashu]

is it possible to FADC to say... a counter for an ultra your opponent throws at u? or is the timing physically impossible lol
since u can take one hit? or are the frames too fast for the ultra and ull get stomped

when u cancel a super move, does yours super gauge get depleted or does it stay there since u canceled it?

[jer7583]

FADC is risky, but you could walk up to a fireball spammer that way if that's all he did.

Not much different than 3s parries, in that way.just let's you move more.

I recorded ryu throwing jab and fierce fb in training and was able to evade most of them. We should test it out sometime, chac.

[ninja dog]

Shits way to safe on everything, and its just plain annoying all the time.


really? My problem with the game is that ultra combos make it totally dangerous. game changers every round :lol: You've got half a life bar, he's got two hits left, you whiff a sweep, and BAM! You're screwed. :lol:

Finally, someone shares my opinion of the pad.


I love it too. I'm totally comfortable with it now and am going to pick up some back-ups when they become more available. Would be nice if someone from madcatz would confirm whether they're making more or not.

I kinda like how its big too. The Saturn pad isn't quite visceral enough for me.

[JEKKI]

lol, I jus lost hella matches and like 500BP practicing Ryu in ranked matches.

it's all good, I still gotta lot to learn but he is a fun dood to play.

Hai guys.. I got all costumes, taunts, and all characters except Seth unlocked. So.. I was in arcade mode playing with Balrog. Please tell me why I ultra combo'd Chun-Li and he says something like "Even after this I bet I could still make money off of you." I was thinking.. what? And then in his ending movie he opens a filing cabinet with this gloves on... does that guy ever take his gloves off of?


dood u dont kno?? Blanka where's boxing gloves like his whole life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHxXufqOEY

is it possible to FADC to say... a counter for an ultra your opponent throws at u? or is the timing physically impossible lol
since u can take one hit? or are the frames too fast for the ultra and ull get stomped

when u cancel a super move, does yours super gauge get depleted or does it stay there since u canceled it?


I am so confused?? do u mean, your opponent throws an ultra, so you throw out a move to try to counter the ultra and then FADC it?? If my opponent threw out an ultra at me, I would block. The recovery on those moves is plenty time to retaliate. Bottom line, u see an ultra coming, either block or dodge!!!!!

second, you cannot FADC a super move since a super consumes your whole super gauge and you need 50% to perform a FADC/EX Focus. Any time you do a super or ultra or EX move that required meter, the meter depletes itself immediately upon execution.

[SmallWind]

Also most ultras have armor breaking properties.

[asianxcore]

Yo Puma,

I'm back from SoCal, so if you want to get some matches in anytime Monday-Thursday, I'm down.

Don't feel like playing today. SoCal asshole drivers + NorCal rain= Want to do nothing

[DarthPuma]

Sick. Be prepared to get wrecked on.

[Furashu]

anyone on PS3 want to play? just played esper and gen

add me : Dunkindoanuts

i play an okay blanka and bison

[ZerotypeX]

lol, Gigaton Punch...classic

[Jest]

Wtfs A Fadc?

[Furashu]

Wtfs A Fadc?
focus attack dash cancel.
i learned this today too:)

still cant for the life of me execute it though or any cancel for that matter

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll add you later Furashu

[jer7583]

Jekki is a beast with blanka.. My chun was not the best 2nite.. Ggs

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll admit I'm not great at any SF game ever but I do put up a fight and try my hardest. not to win, but to prove myself.

[ZerotypeX]

focus attack dash cancel.
i learned this today too:)

still cant for the life of me execute it though or any cancel for that matter

focus attack, then after the hit, you dash (double tap foward/backward)...well, that's how I learned it

Anyone wanna play SFIV on 360 against a scrubby player, can't focus on hw.:bomb:

[Jest]

Mang, Vivi avatars were the shit back in the day.


Where can I learn up on this SF lingo? Is there a difinitive guide out there somewhere?

[DarthPuma]

Anyone down for some rounds in like 20 minutes on teh tripple?

[SmallWind]

Where can I learn up on this SF lingo? Is there a difinitive guide out there somewhere?http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2007/oct/21/street-fighter-terminology-acronyms-lexicon-and-glossary-guide/

[suko_32]

Anyone down for some rounds in like 20 minutes on teh tripple?

I guess I can. Send me a friend invite and post when you're ready.

[distgfx]

focus attack, then after the hit, you dash (double tap foward/backward)...well, that's how I learned it

Anyone wanna play SFIV on 360 against a scrubby player, can't focus on hw.:bomb:

Naw, you're canceling before you even let go of the buttons.

[RelentlessRolento]

tell me if this would make a good song for ending credits for the FGT Movie.

http://www.8bitcollective.com/items/music/i%20need%20you%20more%20then%20ever%20small%20size dddd.mp3

[DarthPuma]

I'm ready.

[JEKKI]

GGs son of a Beep! but u gotta remember the song tho

one low short into EX legs

two low short into EX legs

three low short into EX legs

then combo that into ultra

-EDIT-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8h8gBTNf8Y

[PhrostByte]

I think it works Double R. Btw JEKKI, looks like you were right... Balrog never takes his gloves off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjLrxRz1sVI&feature=channel

[RelentlessRolento]

this might be good for credits as well....

http://www.8bitcollective.com/items/music/Clubeat.mp3

I've already got one musician tagged on for my film, so I'm laying down a list of artists that I want in the film over the week.... strictly chiptunes.

commercials will be done tomorrow since I couldn't edit on saturday due to vomiting on the public metro rail... that's a long story.

[ZerotypeX]

Mang, Vivi avatars were the shit back in the day.

Vivi is my main black mage :D

Naw, you're canceling before you even let go of the buttons.

oh...guess I have been doing it wrong the, whoopsie, lol

My scrubbyness got me the 10 wins in a row in ranked. Should have lost on the 10th round, but got extremely lucky. 11 round streak until some guy using Sakura that put the time limit to 30 sec. When there was like 10 secs left, he would just retreat backwards. So I lost by time. boo, at least I can start on homework now I guess.

[DarthPuma]

GGs suko, you seriously humbled my ass. Beating up on scrubs with shitty tactics had me feeling big. I need to go hit training mode HARD.

[suko_32]

GG's. That was the best 2 bar connection match I ever had lol. I think my roommate was DL'ing something, but glad to see it play like a 3 bar game.

[RelentlessRolento]

cute

http://www.eegra.com/comics/2009/02/75.jpg

[ninja dog]

Has anyone gotten green bars? I'm directly hooked up to my 5mb connection...only get yellows. Which is fine, but still.


Had some good matches with Arikado...not good as in "close," cause he destroyed me, but good as in, he knows his shit and forced me to actually think about my moves. also, he didn't use a shoto. So he deserves a medal for that.

Btw, anyone else notice Dan's focus attack can eat the first hit of an Ultra? He used a focus move, I did Fei Long's ultra and thought I had the round, but Dan ate the first hit and got the FA out before my second hit came out. Then a fuse blew in my house 'cause it was so awesome (true story.)

[MarkMan]

I did Chun's hard trial combos yesterday... her 2nd one took me forever lol...

[gunm]

Argh, why can I do Fei's ultra/super ultra in training, but not in a real match lol. T_T

[DarthPuma]

I still can't beat that stupid J H.K, HK, M Shory, Ex Focus attack. I can get to the FA but then I don't know what to do. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Argh, why can I do Fei's ultra/super ultra in training, but not in a real match lol. T_T



really? it's as easy as everyone elses...??

[suko_32]

GG's Beef! I wish I had a replay of that Dan vs. Fei Long match :)

[RelentlessRolento]

Btw, anyone else notice Dan's focus attack can eat the first hit of an Ultra? He used a focus move, I did Fei Long's ultra and thought I had the round, but Dan ate the first hit and got the FA out before my second hit came out. Then a fuse blew in my house 'cause it was so awesome (true story.)


I've had that happen multiple times... I do remember Ono stating that Dan's focus attack was special but ever since playing I never knew what it was. this might be it. it saved my ass apparently a few times.

[jer7583]

GGs son of a Beep! but u gotta remember the song tho

one low short into EX legs

two low short into EX legs

three low short into EX legs

then combo that into ultra

-EDIT-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8h8gBTNf8Y

Dude I had a hella hard time with your blanka. That ultra would get me every time! You play a badass ryu too. I just couldn't get anything going!

Pretty sure the Legs into ultra only works in the corner - anywhere else and it just pushes them away with a few hits of the ultra.

[ZerotypeX]

soo...when is cag going to have a SFIV tourney? Would love to participate in one. I also thought, what if we had a tourney where you are randomly given a character, work with that character for lets say....about a week, then start the tourney....good/bad idea?

[DarthPuma]

That could actually be kind of fun. Problem is people would end up getting characters they were good with.

[Furashu]

soo...when is cag going to have a SFIV tourney? Would love to participate in one. I also thought, what if we had a tourney where you are randomly given a character, work with that character for lets say....about a week, then start the tourney....good/bad idea?

i think it would be better if people just entered their own name and character... since people have been using their main for probably HDR and stuff..

[Arikado]

Had some good matches with Arikado...not good as in "close," cause he destroyed me, but good as in, he knows his shit and forced me to actually think about my moves. also, he didn't use a shoto. So he deserves a medal for that.

Good games... I did use Akuma once, though. :lol:

Btw, anyone else notice Dan's focus attack can eat the first hit of an Ultra? He used a focus move, I did Fei Long's ultra and thought I had the round, but Dan ate the first hit and got the FA out before my second hit came out. Then a fuse blew in my house 'cause it was so awesome (true story.)

shit was SO cash.

[RelentlessRolento]

if it's random, no shotos allowed to make it interesting.

[suko_32]

That's not fair :)

[Strell]

I put this in the SFIV 360 thread, but maybe it belongs here also. Or something. I dunno. I'm just bored.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Einzell/blankaColor.gif

[ZerotypeX]

i think it would be better if people just entered their own name and character... since people have been using their main for probably HDR and stuff..

Have 2 tourneys: Fist tourney, everyone that uses their main. The 2nd tourney with random characters

if it's random, no shotos allowed to make it interesting.
We could do that


That could actually be kind of fun. Problem is people would end up getting characters they were good with.
That could be a problem, but it would be random. Chances of a person getting their main, 1 out of 22? (not including seth). Taking shotos out... 1 out of 18 (took out akuma, gouken, ken, and ryu)

The problem is how the random is chosen. I guess we could have the person setting the tourney up start a match with the participants, participant puts character selection on random. Once it chooses, that's the character they will be using throughout the random tourney. thoughts?

[RelentlessRolento]

nice design strell. would look superb in illustratah

[ZerotypeX]

That's not fair :)

same boat...main is ryu

[Strell]

nice design strell. would look superb in illustratah

Yeah. I'm still in the learning phase on that.

[RelentlessRolento]

Yeah. I'm still in the learning phase on that.


the hardest part is learning the pen tool. once you wrap your head around that you've got insane amounts of power at your hand.

[PhrostByte]

Sign me and my Blanka up for any tournaments ya'll are gonna have.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

After 20 hours of SF4 I can conclude that its not as good as 3s.

PATCH PLZ.

[distgfx]

After 20 hours of SF4 I can conclude that its not as good as 3s.

PATCH PLZ.

Agreed.

3s > all SFs

Still doesn't mean it's not awesome.

[Otherguy676]

id like to do a toruney

won my gamestop one the other day and did decent at the local PNT, losing a 3 out of 5 match with the oppenent having 5% life left when he beat me after I missed my ultra

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't see SFIII being better than SFIV, just different. they feel different enough to call them that.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

SF4 is just too loose to be honest.
The revenge meter fillls up way to fast to be honest.

[distgfx]

SF4 is just too loose to be honest.
The revenge meter fillls up way to fast to be honest.

I agree with both points.

Not to mention... they took my parry! :cry: I see what they were going for with the FA... but it's just not the same.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I agree with both points.

Not to mention... they took my parry! :cry: I see what they were going for with the FA... but it's just not the same.

True.
I like SF4, but I feel they took a step back from 3S.

[distgfx]

True.
I like SF4, but I feel they took a step back from 3S.

I wouldn't say it's a step back, it's just new. I remember in an interview they they wanted to make it an offensive based game rather than a defensive based like SF3:3s apparently, which is why parry is nowhere to be seen. So they did what they could and it came out to be a very good SF all of its own.

[heavyd853]

My headset is hella broke, I had no idea what was going on in that party JEKKI!

I could neither say nor hear anything!

[Inf^Shini]

Finally I'll have the day all to myself tomorrow which = SFIV day!

[KingBroly]

For all the crap people put on Smash Bros., it has one thing that puts all other fighting games to shame, Street Fighter IV included: Mad Stats!

[ninja dog]

FADC = the new parry. kinda. wayyyy more risky and difficult. and of course, absorb only one hit.


but man, comparing IV to 3S? that's like hating your son because he didn't become president by age 15.

[Jimbo Slice]

No offense Floods, but 20 hours isn't shit.

Also, the thing about Ultras have little use (for the most part) if not combo'ed into. Additionally, many of the combos that end in Ultra require FADC, which requires at least 50% meter. That's why it's an interesting system, in my opinion. Just randomly throwing out an ultra doesn't work at all.

I agree that jumping back is a little too safe, but it doesn't ruin the game or anything - it's just the way the game is played. 3S is great, but it's characters lacked the charm of the SF4's cast. Don't get me wrong, 3s is probably my favorite fighter of all time (or at least top 3) but it would've been 10x better if it had more recognizable characters.

also, @ KingBroly - I agree! I always talk about Smash Bros ill stat collection. Shit is mesmerizing.

And to everyone asking about FADC / Comboing into Ultra via FADC... don't even worry about it at this point. If you weren't sure to do throws, then the last thing on your mind should be cancelling specials into focus attack dashes to do longer combos. Learn the absolute basics first. Best way to do is just play.

Also, if you're not at least an intermediate level player (I.E. can do all trial mode Normal challenges and a handful of the Hard challenges) then don't even go on SRK. All it will do is confuse you. Post up your questions here and we can give more pertinent and accurate responses.

Not trying to sound elitist or anything....

I haven't played any CAGs yet!! This needs to change. Sorry for ignoring your game invites Chac, but was playing local versus because my brothers came up to my school this weekend.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CAPPOD/sf022_b~Street-Fighter-Balrog-Posters.jpg

word.

[Furashu]

to.. zerotypex

1) one tourney w/ mains
2) one tourney with random character, the way the random character is assigned is whoever is heading the tourney just randomly draws a name from a hat then assigns it, then when the tourney starts we see the bracket and see who we have to use. If the head of the tourney dude draws your main, he just chooses another from the hat!

3) one tourney with no shotos just cause people dont like them for some reason lol

the problem would be getting this all organized with 25+ people taking part.
we'd need a universal form of communication aka some chatroom or something

[Arikado]

Jim, you gonna be on in 30 minutes or so? We can get some games in if you're down.

[ZerotypeX]

to.. zerotypex

1) one tourney w/ mains
2) one tourney with random character, the way the random character is assigned is whoever is heading the tourney just randomly draws a name from a hat then assigns it, then when the tourney starts we see the bracket and see who we have to use. If the head of the tourney dude draws your main, he just chooses another from the hat!

3) one tourney with no shotos just cause people dont like them for some reason lol

the problem would be getting this all organized with 25+ people taking part.
we'd need a universal form of communication aka some chatroom or something

I like those options, I'll start a thread for a SFIV tourney (one for 360 and another for PS3).

We could always do it like the first SSBM tourney with people contacting each other to play, then they report it to the thread.

[JEKKI]

GGs Phrostman.

mother freakin we went an even 7-7...

and it's all coz u dont fukkyn jump at me!!

wtf how am I supposed to kill u if u're not jumping like jer does lol

I think me n Jer went 14-7, I think...

[Jimbo Slice]

Jim, you gonna be on in 30 minutes or so? We can get some games in if you're down.

Sorry Kado but I'm writing a Language Arts Lesson Plan atm and I gotta wake up at 8.

Tomorrow night around 10, perhaps? Wanna play you since we're pretty much on the same skill level in fighters it seems (or at least 3s / STHD).

I kinda suck at 4 right now (IMO) but it's funny cause I've only lost like 5 matches online. LOL people are so bad it's ridiculous. I seriously am beasting Ken's by just doing AA F+HK -> Tiger Knee. I literally won a round using no other moves on Friday.

[Inf^Shini]

Furashu, just in case you wanna know what stuff for a character looks like in trial mode, look for them here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kalelulen4&view=videos&query=Street+fighter

They have HD options so you can actually see the details nicely.

[option.iv]

Haven't gotten my game yet, and probably not for a while, but one question...

Is Sagat too good that he should be soft banned in SFIV? From what I played with my friends who already got the game, I would beast them up with Sagat everytime. Also tried Dan, boy is it hard to gain ground with him. Overall though, I like the game and I'm still anxious for when I get my hands on it.

Also, was never really into 3s. Though my friends were. I still think what it'd be like without the Daigo Super Parry video. There probably wouldn't have been any more Street Fighter after that.

[Arikado]

Sorry Kado but I'm writing a Language Arts Lesson Plan atm and I gotta wake up at 8.

Tomorrow night around 10, perhaps? Wanna play you since we're pretty much on the same skill level in fighters it seems (or at least 3s / STHD).

Yeah, I should be around. Just send me an invite whenever you're down to play.

Is Sagat too good that he should be soft banned in SFIV?

No way.

[JEKKI]

in the tier list, Sagat has I think only one 7-3 match in his favor, but everything else is 4-6 to 6-4, no soft ban needed.

that and the fact that nobody even knows how to use him online lol

[ZerotypeX]

Alright, started a tourney thread for 360 and ps3
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5544929#post5544929

go sign up fools!

[option.iv]

Should've made two seperate threads in respective sub forums...

[heavyd853]

Haven't gotten my game yet, and probably not for a while, but one question...

Is Sagat too good that he should be soft banned in SFIV? From what I played with my friends who already got the game, I would beast them up with Sagat everytime. Also tried Dan, boy is it hard to gain ground with him. Overall though, I like the game and I'm still anxious for when I get my hands on it.

Also, was never really into 3s. Though my friends were. I still think what it'd be like without the Daigo Super Parry video. There probably wouldn't have been any more Street Fighter after that.

Sagat is great, but his zoning has some easy holes to capitalize on. His standing tiger shot can be ducked, and then dashed if you time it right to close in on him. His crouching shot can be jumped easily, provided you're at a safe distance.

His main game is punishing, since his fadc into ultra is so easy to do.



On a side note: I finished all the Ken challenges today, the 4th had me stuck real bad but the last one took like no time. It sure is flashy though!

[Furashu]

Furashu, just in case you wanna know what stuff for a character looks like in trial mode, look for them here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kalelulen4&view=videos&query=Street+fighter

They have HD options so you can actually see the details nicely.

thanks man!:)

[distgfx]

FADC = the new parry. kinda. wayyyy more risky and difficult. and of course, absorb only one hit.


but man, comparing IV to 3S? that's like hating your son because he didn't become president by age 15.

That's why I said it wasn't a step back, I just prefer the old parry and the feel 3s has.

[Furashu]

Should've made two seperate threads in respective sub forums...

agreed, zerotypex, itll get super confusing imo and easier to organize in the correct forums for ps3 and 360.

[suko_32]

You should also do one tourney at a time instead of all 3, because it really can get hard to manage everything, though that's just my opinion.

Edit: Unless we're doing this in one night, then it's fine.

[Mr. Beef]

Damn, I can't do the last Dan Challenge for the life of me. I did complete Akuma, Claw, and Dictator's Challenges, though. Claw's was easy as hell though...

[suko_32]

Are you talking about Normal or Hard Beef?

[Mr. Beef]

Hard. I might try again tomorrow or something, but I remember trying it last thursday, and getting really frustrated at the final Hard Challenge, so I switched to another character.

[MarkMan]

Part 1 (http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkablog/play.html?id=sm6219775)
Part 2 (http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkablog/play.html?id=sm6220055)
Part 3 (http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkablog/play.html?id=sm6220545)
Part 4 (http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/t/o/k/tokkablog/play.html?id=sm6221255)

^ Recent SF4 TRF tournament in Japan. Lots of character variety in these vids. Some good mid/lower tier chars taking on the heavy hitters...

[RelentlessRolento]

it may sound weird, but this version of SF has a slight Power Stone vibe... I think it's because of the revenge meter.

[gunm]

One thing I do like about the FS EX2, that shit is built pretty solid. I was really pounding the crap out of it tonight in frustration trying to learn El Fuerte. >x<

[B:L]

Damn, I can't do the last Dan Challenge for the life of me. I did complete Akuma, Claw, and Dictator's Challenges, though. Claw's was easy as hell though...

You're not quite yet a

http://i41.tinypic.com/1z3cttw.gif

THIRD RATE FIGHTER

0:51 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Oj_a6M_3w&fmt=18)


Most of the challenges are easier once you get the hang of the timing. Fastest is not always the best way of doing things.

[Mr. Beef]

I would always get to the EX FA at the last challenge, but could never get the Ultra off. I'll never be a third-rate fighter!

[heavyd853]

Are you dashing out of the recovery of the EX FA? Thats how I did, and it took me about 5 minutes (I'm not bragging), I suppose all the practice I had with Ken helped though. Otherwise I think you just need to remember to do the ultra motion after the dash ends. Those are what got me hung up anyways.

Hit confirming a cr FP from a jab after a jump in is a bitch.

[kainzero]

I did Chun's hard trial combos yesterday... her 2nd one took me forever lol...
it took me forever to learn how to cancel mk xx lk legs. and then after that i still can't link the c.mk after. ughhh

On a side note: I finished all the Ken challenges today, the 4th had me stuck real bad but the last one took like no time. It sure is flashy though!
i was doing the 4th one forever today and i still can't do it
i'm getting really annoyed because i keep getting HP SRK (2-hit) xx FADC - MP SRK - Shoryureppa. I'M NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO SHORYUREPPA, STOP GIVING ME THAT


Street fighter 4 online:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5634/2vabe39ph6.jpg

[zewone]

Street fighter 4 online:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5634/2vabe39ph6.jpg

:lol:

I've been learning the ins and outs of SFIV Sagat. I'm really liking him a lot, and I have a play style where I dominate most shotos online.

I'm down for some matches for people who really know the game and take it somewhat serious. I figure the better people I play against, the better I'll get.

[PhrostByte]

GGs Phrostman.

mother freakin we went an even 7-7...

and it's all coz u dont fukkyn jump at me!!

wtf how am I supposed to kill u if u're not jumping like jer does lol

I think me n Jer went 14-7, I think...

Yemannn. Your Blanka is intimidating. Our first match was Blanka vs. Blanka and you won with a little bit of health left. Your Ryu is good too but I'm used to fighting Ryu's, that's probably why I had the upper hand in those matches. Also, please don't laugh at me when I choose anyone except Blanka. :lol:

Also, I know everyone is saying that Sagat is really good. Well yeah, I noticed that too it's pretty obvious. I don't think he's Akuma-ST level broken though, he's more like Akuma-Remix level. I think Zangief might be broken though. His can throw from FUCKING ANYWHERE. It's ridiculous.

[RelentlessRolento]

Street fighter 4 online:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5634/2vabe39ph6.jpg


:rofl: so fucking true... I hate it when I play people that put it on ryu andken back and forth for a few min to choose which shoto they want... >_<




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy0_zVCRnIg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80lvZQzwZOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgLQHKndk8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdiFsNgA1ns

[Ronin317]

I think Zangief might be broken though. His can throw from FUCKING ANYWHERE. It's ridiculous.

I agree. I think there will be a few tweaks to this game before it's all said and done - there are a couple of characters, Zangief and E. Honda to name two, who don't seem to have much of a delay between their moves, where a lot of the other characters have a hard delay. Maybe it's just frames of animation (wouldn't surprise me).

I don't use Bison but once in a while, and I am definitely terrible with him, but it shouldn't take me 40 minutes on EASY to defeat Seth because of total fuck cheese. Really, I had one round, where he beat me in 12 seconds on easy - started the match with a teleport behind me into a shinjuken, teleported behind me as I landed, grabbed me and did the spinning pile driver, teleported right in front of me, and did his 18 hit kick combo, teleported again and picked me right up for another pile driver. Done. On easy? WTF? All I wanted to do was unlock Rose...

Maybe I just suck with anyone but Ken, Akuma, Rose, and Chun Li. :-#

[ninja dog]

Street fighter 4 online:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5634/2vabe39ph6.jpg


:rofl:

Fight Ken mode, indeed.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm sad even by the fact that Ryu is barely played... Ken dolls for everyone.

http://wa1.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/kenjiharima/toys/kenrevo3.jpg

[ninja dog]

also, they make the last name "Masters" canon in SFIV. That was only on the GI Joe figures before, right?

[GuardianE]

I'm pretty sure "Masters" has been canon for some time now. I'm not sure when it was introduced, but I do remember them mentioning that the CvS2 tournament was partly sponsored by the Masters Corporation, and therefore Ken Masters. I know that CvS2 isn't canon, but I doubt they'd include the last name at all if it weren't true.

[kainzero]

for some reason, i really really want a fightstick SE. i have a TE on the way but i still want an SE... and i have no idea where to find it. it's not particularly urgent. i've had a extra sanwa parts sitting at home for months and i figure they need to get some play... but i wanna know where i can get one once they make more.

is it me or did cammy just get shafted in sf4? she takes way too much damage, has zero range on her FA, cannon drill doesn't bust through other FAs and is really unsafe, and her pokes are more like SF2 than CvS2.

when playing the CPU Abel, i did j.hp, c.mk xx cannon drill twice. then he did his throw and we were even.

it really makes me think that the designers were like "oh she's a girl so let's have her take more damage!" instead of like "well, she has more attack potential and speed, so to balance that we should make her take more damage."

[SmallWind]

is it me or did cammy just get shafted in sf4? she takes way too much damage, has zero range on her FA, cannon drill doesn't bust through other FAs and is really unsafe, and her pokes are more like SF2 than CvS2.
The roundhouse version of cannon drill can break through FAs. Her Hooligan sucks too, it doesn't grab crouched opponents. Only semi-useful thing is TK'ing Cannon Strikes. Which you can combo into a ultra if the EX TK Cannon Strike hits.

[Ronin317]

There are definitely some balancing tweaks that I think need to be made. Haven't played with Cammy yet, but I could see the damage issue being annoying.

[dmunkee]

Man, so you actually can't grab a crouching opponent with Cammy's hooligan? And here I thought I was doing it wrong :(

[gunm]

That's one of the reasons I was getting frustrated last night. Abel and Geif were throwing my El Fuerte all over the place.

[ninja dog]

ducking LP = defeater of all command throws?

[MusicNoteLess]

>_< I feel so left out with all these acronyms. Someone please fill me in.

[Inf^Shini]

Was watching Dictator's trials and around 1:08 this guy manages to dash into a super. How is that possible?

As for me, I'm stuck at 2:23 :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-s9xus1gw&feature=channel

[SmallWind]

>_< I feel so left out with all these acronyms. Someone please fill me in.http://sonichurricane.com/articles/sfterms.html

[distgfx]

around 1:08 this guy manages to dash into a super. How is that possible

Same question here. I've seen it done but can't seem to pull it off.

EDIT: For charge characters of course.

[option.iv]

Hmm, would the dash be registered during the SUper input?

i.e. charge back, forward, back, forward , (slight delay) kick

I dunno, I would think the two forwards would register as a dash. Unless there's that charge glitch from STHD...

If this is so, then it'd be kind of a semi-stored super. More like a delayed super.

If someone can verify that the attack special register window has been increased, that would be great.

[MarkMan]

To dash into super is easy..

You can do charge, f,f,b,f+button.

You have to do it really fast.

You can do focus attack crumple into dash cancel out into ultra easy...


it really makes me think that the designers were like "oh she's a girl so let's have her take more damage!" instead of like "well, she has more attack potential and speed, so to balance that we should make her take more damage."

Sounds like TTT ;)

[SmallWind]

It's charge partitioning.

[MusicNoteLess]

crumple? TTT? so lost...

[Inf^Shini]

I just figured it out a little after seeing the video. You can dash on the first forward input and do the Super.

[distgfx]

To dash into super is easy..

You can do charge, f,f,b,f+button.

You have to do it really fast.

You can do focus attack crumple into dash cancel out into ultra easy...

That's what I've been trying to do... but on a pad. :bomb:

[Inf^Shini]

You can do focus attack crumple into dash cancel out into ultra easy...

This is what I failed to understand at first trying to do Vipers crumple into EX Thunder Knuckle. I knew you could FADC but didn't realize the same after the hit #-o

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Im calling it now SF4= SFEX4.

Both are so similar.

[ninja dog]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353278

[GuardianE]

crumple? TTT? so lost...

Crumple state. The state after getting hit with a focus attack. You're in a vulnerable stun state to be comboed.

TTT is Tekken Tag Tournament.

[Ronin317]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353278
The best post in that entire thread,

Fighting games themselves need an overhaul? No. Fighting games need to change the way they present themselves to their audiences who aren't just their hardcore fanbase? Yes.

[option.iv]

hmm, charge partitioning, I see.

So would it be like

Charge b (part of the charge time), f,f, charge b(remaining part of charge time during dash), f+kick?

So are you just adding those charge times to get 1 full charge? Also if you charge too long initially, will charge partitioning still be possible?

[heavyd853]

Jump > spd spamming zangiefs.

do a relatively safe move that they will think is punishable, jump over their spd, punish.


Also, POKE POKE POKE POKE POKE.

[Furashu]

anyone have tips on actual execution of the moves?

[heavyd853]

What moves are you looking to do?

[Furashu]

most of blankas moves,
read on gootecks he uses like his index to do tech throws and throws.

mostly for dash canceling and FA canceling...

not yet FADC....cant even do norm canceling lol

so after reading i get u can cancel special moves, ie. horz roll/electricity?

i can do them just maybe theres a better way to do them so i get rid of bad habits now as opposed to later.

[heavyd853]

If you're doing jumpins than end or have a charge move in them, you have to remember to start charging immediately after the jump starts.

dash canceling is done with the fa buttons held down, otherwise a level 1 attac kwill come out.

For charge moves into supers, the motion of the special counts as the first motion for the super, so you just have to do one more quick b,f punch or kick in quick succession.


I'm not very good with charge characters!

[Arikado]

I think Zangief might be broken though. His can throw from FUCKING ANYWHERE. It's ridiculous.

You play Blanka. The matchup is in your favor. Be smart with your horizontal balls, lariat will sometimes beat them and jumping mk will snuff it every time. Vertical ball beats the lariat. The slide will sweep out of the lariat, just don't get into the habit of throwing it out constantly or you're going to be eating a focus attack and then a piledriver/super/ultra. Electricity stops crossups, just be wary if Gief has meter because if you're baited into electricity, you're eating an EX green hand. Stay the hell away from Gief and poke him to death. Play patient and do whatever the hell it takes to get away from him.

Sagat and Blanka can be nightmares for Zangief. He has his flaws.

[Furashu]

If you're doing jumpins than end or have a charge move in them, you have to remember to start charging immediately after the jump starts.

dash canceling is done with the fa buttons held down, otherwise a level 1 attac kwill come out.

For charge moves into supers, the motion of the special counts as the first motion for the super, so you just have to do one more quick b,f punch or kick in quick succession.


I'm not very good with charge characters!

wait so......theres no such thing as a dash cancel by itself?
u have to hold FA then dash?

so let me get this straight....
to focus attaack dash cancel
you..
1) excecute horizontal roll charge back, forward+punch
2) instantly hit FA
3) instantly press forwward forward to dash

thats how im interpreting what u said.

i thought u could
1) horizontal roll( charge back, forward+punch)
2) then instantly tap forward forward to do a dash.

[Pootie Thang]

I'm actually getting pretty decent at this game. I was like 7-3 today. :)

I'm using Ken and slowly adapting to how everyone plays against him. I'm also learning a few combos that work pretty well.

Oh yeah, I'm playing with the Dual Shock 3 since I sold my modded HRAP3 because I thought my pre-order from Amazon for the TE stick would go through... big mistake.

[RelentlessRolento]

whoa... new Power Instinct game. Honestly didn't see that coming but that makes me happy:

http://www.siliconera.com/2009/02/23/atlus-returns-to-arcades-with-new-power-instinct-game/

[Furashu]

are there advantages or disadvantages to using the roundhouse or triple punch buttons?
im curious to see why everyone uses only 6 buttons vs all 8 for that purpose...

[Inf^Shini]

are there advantages or disadvantages to using the roundhouse or triple punch buttons?
im curious to see why everyone uses only 6 buttons vs all 8 for that purpose...
Machines at arcades only have 6 buttons, so I'll guess that it's for arcade purposes.

[MarkMan]

I would use triple only when you intend to use triple. Otherwise you will end up doing EX versions of moves once you have meter... Dont' want to waste em.

[heavyd853]

wait so......theres no such thing as a dash cancel by itself?
u have to hold FA then dash?

so let me get this straight....
to focus attaack dash cancel
you..
1) excecute horizontal roll charge back, forward+punch
2) instantly hit FA
3) instantly press forwward forward to dash

thats how im interpreting what u said.

i thought u could
1) horizontal roll( charge back, forward+punch)
2) then instantly tap forward forward to do a dash.

You can only dash cancel out of focus attacks, barring some sort of special type of deal like blanka's PPP move. Even with that, you couldn't dash cancel out of specials with it, only normals.

Blanka's PPP move is a hoppy thing, so its sorta like a faux dash cancel.

[Furashu]

wow it all makes sense now.. i was like why the hell cant i dash cancel out of a special move? LOL

so.. u can Focus attack cancel out of any special move then?


good games nibi! lol. i was too sleepy to keep playing :( worked from 7am to 3 pm lol.

your e.honda is pretty good, pissed me off being stuck in the corner.. haha!

[Inf^Shini]

ggs Gigan, I picked characters whose super I already forgot how to input lol. That one devastating round against Gief made Abel sad :(

I didn't accept any invitations after because I left my PS3 on and went out :P

Btw, anyone use a mic while playing?

[asianxcore]

GG"s to Gigan. Zangief infuriates me because I have to play a safe as Abel as opposed to how I usually play.

As I think HeavyD put it best, Zangief can pretty much SPD out of anything in SFIV. Start-up? What Start-up?

[DarthPuma]

Anyone really good chun's want to play me so I can get a feel of her game? I like her moveset a lot, but I haven't seen anyone play her in SF4 so I don't know how I should attack training. Fucking SRK is down again.

I'm doing her normal challenge mode and it's asking for three successive Yosokyaku's. I can't figure out how to do one.

[SmallWind]

So are you just adding those charge times to get 1 full charge? Also if you charge too long initially, will charge partitioning still be possible?Yeah.

[Jimbo Slice]

Anyone wanna build me a custom (HankmeCrankMe, Jekki.... whoever?)

I think I want an octagonal gate. Don't mind the square but I ride it to hard when I have to do 2xQCF in a pinch and I end up screwing the super up.

Edit: If anyone takes me up on the custom offer, obviously you would be compensated.

[hankmecrankme]

I would, but I don't have the necessary tools and it's cold as fuck here currently. Just snag a Norris box when they go up next month. Soldering I can do, unless it's super small.

[Inf^Shini]

Anyone really good chun's want to play me so I can get a feel of her game? I like her moveset a lot, but I haven't seen anyone play her in SF4 so I don't know how I should attack training. Fucking SRK is down again.

I'm doing her normal challenge mode and it's asking for three successive Yosokyaku's. I can't figure out how to do one.
It's just d+mk while in the air. Watch her vid, you'll get an idea of how.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfpzN0-GQA

I've only fought one Chun Li and she was whooping my ever-lovin ass. Got killed by her jump ins as well as a lot of dash-in/crouch combos. Whoever used her knew what they were doing, kept mixing it up and dizzied me pretty fast.

It was a couple days ago so I don't remember exactly what a lot of the combos were, but most consisted of crouch lk's > standing jab for 5-6 hits and didn't use the Bird Kick once.

[jer7583]

I play chun..

[JEKKI]

sorry Jimbo man, I swore after the pain of my last stick that I would never do that again,

unless sum nice power tools and free time fall into my lap from the heavens one day.

anyway, PS3 version in the house!!

THE HOUSE!!

gotta broken TE stick too lol.

dont wanna play much today tho, tomorrow I'll play a lil bit more tho

[DarthPuma]

I want to play you Jer.
asian, you ready for an asswhooping?

[asianxcore]

I want to play you Jer.
asian, you ready for an asswhooping?

Yea, I'm online on PSN now. Hit me up.

GG's to Beef. I like how we are so familiar with each other's gameplay, that it becomes a stand-off.

P.S- Shini....answer some invites foo!

[darthbudge]

Does anybody know of a good guide for SFIV?

I mean, I hear you guys talking about all these terms and moves and stuff and I have no clue what they mean.

[Inf^Shini]

P.S- Shini....answer some invites foo!
It's paused in the middle of a survival challenge and I haven't touched it for over 4-5 hours, sorry :/

I'm prone to leaving my games running for hours paused while I'm off doing other things :-P

[asianxcore]

P.S.S.S: DarthPuma you need to approve my FR on PSN

BOOMBAYOOOWWW

[Jest]

any else as bad as i am wannt to give it a go?

[DarthPuma]

So I just lost to a guy who had a legit good akuma. I won't lie, I'm not very good at this game, but dude was a complete cock about winning. He started the round saying he was going to beat my scrub as because I'm just another fucking ken. Almost beat him the first round and he ended up winning because I got trigger happy and wiffed my ultra, and he talked more shit there. I was flustered as fuck the next round because of how big of an asshole this guy was, and it showed in my playing. After he won he just yelled that's what you get for playing ken cunt.

I don't understand why people have to be like that. It really ruins the game.

[MarkMan]

gotta broken TE stick too lol.

dont wanna play much today tho, tomorrow I'll play a lil bit more tho

Wha!? What's wrong with your TE stick? Let me know.

[suko_32]

Played a guy who used Cammy and wasn't very good. His SFIV title he chose was "Legendary Loser." I was about to perfect him for the win then he disconnected so I though I should have some fun by saying messaging him:

"Legendary loser indeed!"

He responds with
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/46/p1040655.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040655.jpg)

Then I go "That's all it takes to take u down! weakkkk!"

He says:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9262/p1040656.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040656.jpg)

In conclusion...+1 for suko.

[SmallWind]

:rofl:

[DarthPuma]

GGs asian, told you you'd get wrecked on. :rofl:

What you you guys say the best way to go from a jump in to the target combo is?
For ken.

[asianxcore]

GG's to D-Puma. Glad we finally got some games in. Keep up the practice man! :)

Every time a scrub uses the word "cheap", baby Jesus cries and implodes.

[DarthPuma]

Finding randoms really ruins you. Being able to rely on stupid tactics most of the time fucks you up when you fight someone legit. I wish SFIV was on GGPO, lol.

[Mr. Beef]

Dammit Puma, answer my friend request, OR YOU JUST MIGHT LOSE.

Played this weird-ass Blanka today, and all he did was fierce punch, so i beat him soundly. When I got done, I recieved a message saying that I was "a cheater, beating a 4-year old."

....

I messaged back, asking why a 4-year old is playing SFIV, and he responded "because he loves playing." Can't blame him, SFIV is fun as hell.

GGs axc. That Abel don't take no nonsense.

[distgfx]

Man, I've been really lucky finding legits on PSN. I've had only about 3 ken and 2 akuma spammers. I've fought a really good balrog/boxer, guile and sakura. Me and my cammy have given me some really close games.

[suko_32]

Played this weird-ass Blanka today, and all he did was fierce punch, so i beat him soundly. When I got done, I recieved a message saying that I was "a cheater, beating a 4-year old."

....

I messaged back, asking why a 4-year old is playing SFIV, and he responded "because he loves playing." Can't blame him, SFIV is fun as hell.



Beef beating up little kids confirmed.

[Furashu]

ggreat i have a f*c*ing DNS 80710102 error and cannot connect

[DarthPuma]

I'll accept it tomorrow beef, I always forget.

Asian, what tips can you give me on my ken? I was playing super shitty, but anything could help. I'm still tempted to learn a new character, just don't know who

[suko_32]

I'm asian yet I'm not Asian, but one obvious point is not to get predictable. Some people like me love to bait the DP.

[DarthPuma]

That's actually one of my big problems. The only combos I ever remember to try for are target to f.dp and c.mk to f. tetsaksdjfaoidjfaodjf to f. dp.

[asianxcore]

Asian, what tips can you give me on my ken? I was playing super shitty, but anything could help. I'm still tempted to learn a new character, just don't know who

I'm not an expert on Shotos, but things I noticed...

-Shouldn't be throwing out random Ultra, especially since Ken's recovery is really bad. Abel punishes Ken's Ultra pretty hard. A free meaty cr.FP with Abel opens up all sorts of opportunities.

-Zoning/Spacing. Use fireballs, Shoryu's, normals/pokes to keep some space in-between Ken and the other character. Depending on the character you can actually rushdown, but against Abel, if you control space and limit his options, you can completely shut down his mix-up game.

-Learn BnB combos with Ken.

-Learn Cross-up's with Ken.

-Building meter for EX is your friend.

-Learn what moves are/aren't safe with Ken, etc. etc.

I would say all of this can be applied to any character. Once you get down the basics, you can further your game after that. As I believe a couple posters mentioned here, not knowing the basics and wanting to jump right into FADC into Ultra won't do you any good.

[distgfx]

Puma, if you ever need some fresh meat to practice against.

<---- right over here ... and down a little, PSN

I may not be as good as these guys but I can put up a fight. I have to play with a pad temporarily though.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Maybe one of you guys can help... Does anyone have any tips on fighting Seth? I just spent the last 40 minutes trying to beat him with Sakura. I came close to beating him twice only to be slaughtered by his ultra combo.

[suko_32]

If you're just trying to unlock people then you could just put it to easiest mode with 30 second rounds.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Suko: He actually seems much cheaper on easiest. I'm not sure I ever managed to beat him once with Ryu. I seem to be faring better with the game set on Medium.

[ninja dog]

it's about time I admit to myself that I suck at this game. I lost to everyone but the worst shotos tonight. Fei Long? More like Fei Wrong! I also lose at comedy.

[distgfx]

Suko: He actually seems much cheaper on easiest. I'm not sure I ever managed to beat him once with Ryu. I seem to be faring better with the game set on Medium.

Cheaper on easiest? Jump in HK, crouch HK, jump back, repeat

[suko_32]

You could also turtle and just wait to punish him.

[Inf^Shini]

Man, I've been really lucky finding legits on PSN. I've had only about 3 ken and 2 akuma spammers. I've fought a really good balrog/boxer, guile and sakura. Me and my cammy have given me some really close games.
Today was really weird, I ran into practically no shotos; just one Akuma and Gouken, but Gouken plays more like Rock in CvS2 so that's cool.

Played a wide range of characters from Cammy to Gief to Fei Long to even a Rufus :o

Needless to say, I lost a lot of them, but not by a lot, in fact, today was all about coming down to the wire...in every. single. round. That was so awesome.

My shining moment was taking half a bar from akuma while I had like 1% health left playing as Bison. He was fairly decent (to my standards) but he also liked spamming the air hadouken, so it made the head stomp easier to land...sometimes, cuz I don't got those mad skillz yet.

[Chibi_Kaji]

Distgx: He just teleporting around on me when I play on easiest. So make him a pain to even hit... and when I get close he just grabs me and throws me.

[ninja dog]

Find one move, preferably one with lots of hits like Ken's Hurricane Kick, and spam it on him. Even on medium this can work if timed right.

[distgfx]

Today was really weird, I ran into practically no shotos; just one Akuma and Gouken, but Gouken plays more like Rock in CvS2 so that's cool.

Played a wide range of characters from Cammy to Gief to Fei Long to even a Rufus :o

Needless to say, I lost a lot of them, but not by a lot, in fact, today was all about coming down to the wire...in every. single. round. That was so awesome.

My shining moment was taking half a bar from akuma while I had like 1% health left playing as Bison. He was fairly decent (to my standards) but he also liked spamming the air hadouken, so it made the head stomp easier to land...sometimes, cuz I don't got those mad skillz yet.

The akuma I played was not awesome, I could literally see him trying to do his ultra. He was pressing the buttons to slow, I was standing there just waiting to jump over him. I, of course, ended up doing so. :lol:

Everybody else was pretty good though, especially that guile.

Distgx: He just teleporting around on me when I play on easiest. So make him a pain to even hit... and when I get close he just grabs me and throws me.

Ah, when you see him teleport near you just dash away and then jump in. Unless he's literally doing it all the time. He has to pause to throw a sonic boom like his usual self eventually.

Find one move, preferably one with lots of hits like Ken's Hurricane Kick, and spam it on him. Even on medium this can work if timed right.

Whoa! Don't use any attacks that let you get that close to him, my ken got raped that way.

[Inf^Shini]

The akuma I played was not awesome, I could literally see him trying to do his ultra. He was pressing the buttons to slow, I was standing there just waiting to jump over him. I, of course, ended up doing so. :lol:

Everybody else was pretty good though, especially that guile.

All the akumas I've played (all 3 of em) knew at least the basics, so they pulled out the Super/Ultras with no delay. Only one of them had the timing down and knew when to use em, so he got me a couple times because I was stupid and gave him easy openings :/


The Fei Long I played was pretty good, that was it.

[distgfx]

All the akumas I've played (all 3 of em) knew at least the basics, so they pulled out the Super/Ultras with no delay. Only one of them had the timing down and knew when to use em, so he got me a couple times because I was stupid and gave him easy openings :/


The Fei Long I played was pretty good, that was it.

The akuma players I played didn't realize I was just going to continously dash under their air hadoukens. I didn't take the round seriously, I was screwin' around with the guy, well, one in particular.

[jer7583]

I HATE sakura and her shitty moves. She is impossible to beat Seth with. I've always hated her and she's a waste in sf4.

Seriously like an hour of unfair matches vs Seth tonight with no victory.

[blitz6speed]

Seth is so easy its ridiculous. All you have to do is just block till he does his spinning kick move on you and sweep him after. It works for every single character in the game (although El Fuerte is the hardest to do it with since he is literally worthless).

[zewone]

I HATE sakura and her shitty moves. She is impossible to beat Seth with. I've always hated her and she's a waste in sf4.

Seriously like an hour of unfair matches vs Seth tonight with no victory.

Sakura is awesome.

Now I want to play you on Live and beat you w/ her. ;)

[distgfx]

Sakura is awesome.

Now I want to play you on Live and beat you w/ her. ;)

She definitely puts up one hell of a fight, that's for sure.

[Furashu]

so... say youre crossing over and kicking someone in the face with blanka and he changes direction, is it possible to still charge the horizontal roll? if so which way to i hold the joy stick? i know u can doit if u normally jump over and then charge on the jump, but for cross overs it gets all confusing.


how come in challenge mode when i do an EX vertical roll dan still blocks it? i thought EX moves break through blocks?

[Furashu]

anyone wanna play for a quick 20 mins?

[MarkMan]

anyone wanna play for a quick 20 mins?

I'll jump on in a few min... send me an inv.

[Furashu]

I'll jump on in a few min... send me an inv.

sorry i was playing with 2 others, didnt check CAG, maybe tommorrow :)

i wanna see if i can even hang with anyone whos a solid/good player from SF, seeing as u said u came in last for the rankings haha!
i honestly didnt start seriously playing until wednesday, but want to see if ive got a chance in CAG tournies :D

i played sagat on hardest and each match came out very very close, but CPU sagat beat me about 8 times and i won 3 times.
i whooped on bison on hardest, but got stomped facing a good bison online.

[PhrostByte]

You play Blanka. The matchup is in your favor. Be smart with your horizontal balls, lariat will sometimes beat them and jumping mk will snuff it every time. Vertical ball beats the lariat. The slide will sweep out of the lariat, just don't get into the habit of throwing it out constantly or you're going to be eating a focus attack and then a piledriver/super/ultra. Electricity stops crossups, just be wary if Gief has meter because if you're baited into electricity, you're eating an EX green hand. Stay the hell away from Gief and poke him to death. Play patient and do whatever the hell it takes to get away from him.

Sagat and Blanka can be nightmares for Zangief. He has his flaws.

I'm not saying I have trouble with him as Blanka.. but when I use just about anyone else, I get crushed against a good Zangief. For my Blanka... the biggest problems are: Bison, Cammy, Rose, Balrog... uhh.. and other Blanka's I guess.

[SmallWind]

how come in challenge mode when i do an EX vertical roll dan still blocks it? i thought EX moves break through blocks?...EX moves only break Focus Attacks, add armor properties, go through fireballs, and/or speed up the attack.

[Arikado]

I'm not saying I have trouble with him as Blanka.. but when I use just about anyone else, I get crushed against a good Zangief. For my Blanka... the biggest problems are: Bison, Cammy, Rose, Balrog... uhh.. and other Blanka's I guess.

Yeah, if Gief gets in on anyone, it's trouble. To be honest, you have to play like a total pussy against him. :lol:

Add me for practice with the matchup. I still have trouble against good Blankas and Sagats.

[PhrostByte]

After JEKKI tore me up today I went about 90% in ranked with Blanka. I fought one good Rose.. but I beat her twice. I fought one good Akuma, I beat him once, he beat me once. I fought one good Seth, I beat him once, he beat me once. It's cool how I can fight the same people again in ranked mode. Also, I didn't fight any Kens today at all. And only about 5 Ryus.

EDIT: I shall add you.

[gunm]

Distgx: He just teleporting around on me when I play on easiest. So make him a pain to even hit... and when I get close he just grabs me and throws me.


On the easiest settings, most characters just need to keep a middle distance spacing with him, doing pokes and sweeps. Depending on character I stick to long range kicks or punches. Obviously, too close and he does the SRK/SPD move or some other throw, too far and he spams sonic booms and teleports. I usually jump in on round start with high kick and low kick sweep and keep the pressure on from there. Back dash/BB helps if you start getting too close and he starts SRK'ing.

[Mr. Beef]

I think I've only seen one Seth online before, and I mopped the floor with him. I played my first Guile online though, and I nearly shit myself during round 3 when he whiffed his Ultra on me for the loss. That match was too fun.

[distgfx]

I think I've only seen one Seth online before, and I mopped the floor with him. I played my first Guile online though, and I nearly shit myself during round 3 when he whiffed his Ultra on me for the loss. That match was too fun.

Seth takes damage like a bitch, I'd of been surprised if you lost.

[distgfx]

I'll jump on in a few min... send me an inv.

For some reason you come off as a fighting game legend. First name that comes to mind is Daigo ... just how good are you?

[Furashu]

...EX moves only break Focus Attacks, add armor properties, go through fireballs, and/or speed up the attack.

thanks, still learning the rock paper scissors of what beats what in this game.. lol:)

For some reason you come off as a fighting game legend. First name that comes to mind is Daigo ... just how good are you?

hes a noob, hes just good at tekken ;) lol jk
after i play him tommorrow ill tell ya!

[MarkMan]

I suck at Street Fighter and I'm not that good at Tekken... but good enough to beat everyone here ;)

!

[blitz6speed]

GG jekki, your blank is awesome. Ive never seen anyone use the ultra that way (hitting the first hit then waiting to roll to connect), so now i know. Pretty sure you were using the TE stick since you hardly missed anything you wanted to hit with. Im still sporting the broken factory 360 d-pad but still lovin it. I kinda hate arcade sticks cause they're so clunky. And the 360 SF4 pad was junk, broke on me in a day. Oh well! Fei Long rules!

[JEKKI]

GG jekki, your blank is awesome. Ive never seen anyone use the ultra that way (hitting the first hit then waiting to roll to connect), so now i know. Pretty sure you were using the TE stick since you hardly missed anything you wanted to hit with. Im still sporting the broken factory 360 d-pad but still lovin it. I kinda hate arcade sticks cause they're so clunky. And the 360 SF4 pad was junk, broke on me in a day. Oh well! Fei Long rules!nah man, I missed hella Ultras with Ryu.

btw I posted in the xbox thread, but learn how to dash cancel after a succesful focus attack.

with Fei Long, if u woulda focus attack, dash cancel, ultra, then you woulda gotten the full ultra animation.

without the dash cancel, just doing focus then ultra, you only got like 3 weak hits and lost your meter.

to do dash cancel, hit toward, toward either after letting go of mp+mk, or in the case of level 3 soon as the strike animation comes out.

it's actually a buffer so once u enter the command, it will not come out until like a few frames later

-EDIT-

btw, Fei's Rekkas... omg they punish whiffs like crazy >_<

I got hit by like 1000 of them for doing stupid shyt lol

[blitz6speed]

I will practice the canceling right now, would be awesome to get the full ultra with the focus attack! And i hate how ryu can punish with EX Fireball after a low middle kick so damn often, i got pretty frustrated when i kept getting hit by that lol.

[dizzlle01]

My tournament edition came today from amazon, no scratches and good condition. But the RB and RT button not working after one hour of gameplay. Arrgggh waited so long for this stick to come too
.

[blitz6speed]

Jekki, i can do the dash cancel into full ultra 9 out of 10 times in training now. However, i went online and tried to get it working in a match and couldnt get it going lol, in the heat of battle its not always for sure. Going to keep practicing tho. I keep getting randomly disconnected off of live tonight, really weird, happened like 3 times with matches against different people. And not disconnected from the match itself, but from Xbox Live completely.

[heavyd853]

For some reason you come off as a fighting game legend. First name that comes to mind is Daigo ... just how good are you?

He fucked me up real good whenever we had Tekken nights last year. Man I can't wait for BR, shits gonna be hype!

DR was shit online though, and I know if I played him in person it would have been even more humbling.

[SmallWind]

:rofl:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3853/ken.jpg

[jer7583]

I'm sure sakura is fine to use I just think she sucks against Seth.. She has no range on her normals. From a chun player that's annoying.

I never want to use sakura again after yesterday.

[darthbudge]

Alright, so I realize this a noob question but I need some help.

I just CANNOT do any Ultra moves in SFIV. I have tried and tried but I can't seem to get it down, even in practice mode. What exactly do I need to do, for example, with Abel?

I looked at his command list, and it shows two quarter forward moves and then all three punch buttons. But what should be the timing on all that?

[ZerotypeX]

Alright, so I realize this a noob question but I need some help.

I just CANNOT do any Ultra moves in SFIV. I have tried and tried but I can't seem to get it down, even in practice mode. What exactly do I need to do, for example, with Abel?

I looked at his command list, and it shows two quarter forward moves and then all three punch buttons. But what should be the timing on all that?

If you are using the controller, after the 2 quarter circles, hit the left shoulder button. That button was mapped to have the LP,MP,and HP pressed together.

Not sure what the button is on a stick, but you can map it to whicherever button you want.

[PhrostByte]

I suck at Street Fighter and I'm not that good at Tekken... but good enough to beat everyone here ;)

!

If I can play Jin in Tekken 6 the same way I played him in Tekken 5.. I bet I could put up a good challenge.

[darthbudge]

If you are using the controller, after the 2 quarter circles, hit the left shoulder button. That button was mapped to have the LP,MP,and HP pressed together.

Not sure what the button is on a stick, but you can map it to whicherever button you want.

Ah ok, I am gonna try that out now.

[kainzero]

I'm sure sakura is fine to use I just think she sucks against Seth.. She has no range on her normals.

s.hk
c.mk

also i think her FA is one of the best, it has REALLY good range and hops over lows

i've won entire matches with s.hk and c.hp alone

btw i'm getting really annoyed with the inputs in sf4, retarded stuff seems to come out like dp+k instead of qcb+k, qcbx2+k instead of qcb+k, i seriously don't get it

got my TE yesterday as well. good feel, good weight. buttons too close for my liking since i'm used the HRAP but i'll get used to it. only gripe is that it feels sticky / glossy for whatever reason. but damn it was cool to get it in that nice looking box.

then i used my cast iron skillet to make me seared tuna. i love getting stuff delivered when you order it online. it makes your trip home that much more worth it.

[Chacrana]

btw i'm getting really annoyed with the inputs in sf4, retarded stuff seems to come out like dp+k instead of qcb+k, qcbx2+k instead of qcb+k, i seriously don't get it


I was having the same sort of issue. It's like they tried to make the controls too accessible, so now the game fills in the inputs you intentionally skipped... I noticed that I was deliberately standing still before entering a command a couple times, just because going straight into a move after having forward held can fuck it up. Hopefully they'll patch that.

[Ronin317]

Whoa! Don't use any attacks that let you get that close to him, my ken got raped that way.
Are you sure it wasn't what Ken was wearing? Some colors of uniform are just asking for it...;)

[Inf^Shini]

btw i'm getting really annoyed with the inputs in sf4, retarded stuff seems to come out like dp+k instead of qcb+k, qcbx2+k instead of qcb+k, i seriously don't get it
I've had this issue with pulling off Bison's ultra. Read up on Shoryuken that others have the same problem where he teleports instead and mentioned to do the motions slower. I did that and now it comes out more often but still having to slow down the motions for just that part tends to throw off my timing.

[JEKKI]

Jekki, i can do the dash cancel into full ultra 9 out of 10 times in training now. However, i went online and tried to get it working in a match and couldnt get it going lol, in the heat of battle its not always for sure. Going to keep practicing tho. I keep getting randomly disconnected off of live tonight, really weird, happened like 3 times with matches against different people. And not disconnected from the match itself, but from Xbox Live completely.yeay jus keep at it and eventually you'll get it down easy.

it's hella easy for me to do since I use Blanka, becoz having to focus attack -> dash cancel into a charge move is a whole new layer of preparation and execution as opposed to like a semi-circular motion

[MarkMan]

If I can play Jin in Tekken 6 the same way I played him in Tekken 5.. I bet I could put up a good challenge.

If I could use 5.0 anyone, I can kill you with ease. :)

<3

[BlueSwim]

Man....is it just me, or does SFIV have some major hit-detection issues? Cammy's crouching light kick won't register a hit unless the heel of the boot(not the foot itself) makes contact.:shock:

I CAN HAZ PATCH?....and a Seth re-balancing? Jeez, he's cheap.

I really haven't enjoyed SFIV as much as I thought I would. Too many issues like the ones I mentioned.:cry:

Also....HI, FGT!:D