General Fighting Game Thread #48 Turbo - !quote 16 ^_^

[dejeckt]

Random non-FG related note: my car got broken into last night after a concert with a friend.

Annoying that I have to take time off from work/class to get this shit fixed. Fuck you San Francisco.

that happened to me earlier this month. sucks like h***, hopefully that culprit chokes on prison d*** some day. hopefully, you have home/renters insurance should cover all the stolen goods inside the car. if you got a credit card or personal information stolen call up the 3 major credit bureaus to put it on fraud alert or something.

[asianxcore]

that happened to me earlier this month. sucks like h***, hopefully that culprit chokes on prison d*** some day. hopefully, you have home/renters insurance should cover all the stolen goods inside the car. if you got a credit card or personal information stolen call up the 3 major credit bureaus to put it on fraud alert or something.

Good thing for me I really keep nothing of value in my car. The only things that were in my car were burned mix CD's, 3 actual CD's, some empty water bottles and my friend's car keys. The only thing the thief did steal was about $10-13 worth of change I had in my car :)

Made a hell of a mess though. Having to vacuum up all the broken glass at 2am when I had to be in class/work by 7 was a little annoying. Had to call out at my evening job because this is the only time I have to get my window fixed before my trip to L.A next weekend.

Lucky for me I don't bring my Zune with me unless I'm traveling over 3 hours :)

[hankmecrankme]

Damn, suck ass AXC.

Before my car died, I only kept burned MP3 CDs in it. Nothing else of value. I always took my car stereo's faceplate off too, so if some jackass wanted to steal it, he'd have to find another.

[suko_32]

Sorry for not playing you trajin. I didn't notice the invite till you signed off.

[dejeckt]

asianxcore, becareful when cleaning up when I was cleaning up I guess I opened the door in a wrong fashion (?) and a glass shard go stuck inside the door panels latch, after that I couldn't open my driver's side door (lol). if its just your window that got busted up...I think its better if you don't file a claim (assuming the deductible is around 500), I think you can fix the glass anywhere between 200-400 bucks.

[trajin]

np suko;)

[Jest]

Bummer axc. :(

Want to cheer up with some SFIV tonight? I'll be hopping on shortly for some gaming tonight. Anyone else interested?

[RelentlessRolento]

cheer up AX... :(

been so busy I have no life to be honest... barely any time for CAG this week and next >_<

[hankmecrankme]

cheer up AX... :(

been so busy I have no life to be honest... barely any time for CAG this week and next >_<

Uh, ReRo, not having time to be on CAG all day because you are busy doesn't mean you don't have a life. Look at me, I'm on here all the time, mostly because I'm bored and lonely. . . :cry:

[RelentlessRolento]

Uh, ReRo, not having time to be on CAG all day because you are busy doesn't mean you don't have a life. Look at me, I'm on here all the time, mostly because I'm bored and lonely. . . :cry:


:lol: unless I see my life as CAG... :lol: I shouldn't though.


I've got so much college work to do it's scary. Be glad some of you people don't do what I have to do >_< at the same time I'll be glad I don't do what everyone else does.

[asianxcore]

Thanks guys! Lucky for me my evening job was more than happy to move my shift to tomorrow, so I won't be losing a day of work there.

Wasn't worth calling insurance because the cost to fix the window was under $100. Still annoying as I'm going to L.A next week with my g/f & one of my best friends, rather have that money there.

I'm down for games tonight with anyone who wants to play SFIV. I'll be at work tomorrow now and leaving for the SFIV Party/4v4 after work, so tonight is my last night to get some decent practice in :)

[Dandeschain]

One of these nights, I wanna play some of you guys in some KOF 02 GGPO. Who plays KOF around here?

[asianxcore]

Just a heads up for anyone here who was anticipating (like myself) the PS2/JPN release of Arcana Heart 2.....

Word is on SRK that the game is not only a version behind but has slowdown/lag (even on Normal Moves).

[PhrostByte]

Uh, ReRo, not having time to be on CAG all day because you are busy doesn't mean you don't have a life. Look at me, I'm on here all the time, mostly because I'm bored and lonely. . . :cry:

:grouphug:

We love you hank! Well, I do anyway.. Jim told me he wishes you were dead.

sike!

I got Battle Fantasia in the mail today.. I kind of want to play it but my girl should be here soon... hmm... sex or a new fighter.... tough choice.

[Jest]

Theres no choice... Did you import the PS3 Jap version or that 360 version?

[PhrostByte]

360. I wasn't aware that the PS3 could play games.

[Jest]

noticed <--------- in the arcade stick thread. stfu mana knight is not pleased

[distgfx]

Just a heads up for anyone here who was anticipating (like myself) the PS2/JPN release of Arcana Heart 2.....

Word is on SRK that the game is not only a version behind but has slowdown/lag (even on Normal Moves).

A version behind and slowdown? PASS! I was going to import it, but not now. >_>

360. I wasn't aware that the PS3 could play games.

Oh snap.

EDIT: *sees no PSN ID* ah

[hankmecrankme]

So Loli Fighter 2 is a shitty port? Not that I really cared about it anyway.

:grouphug:

We love you hank! Well, I do anyway.. Jim told me he wishes you were dead.

sike!

I got Battle Fantasia in the mail today.. I kind of want to play it but my girl should be here soon... hmm... sex or a new fighter.... tough choice.

Aw.

Dood, that's a no brainer. Battle Fantasia all the way.

[Arikado]

One of these nights, I wanna play some of you guys in some KOF 02 GGPO. Who plays KOF around here?

I do, but I'm not as good at the old school ones anymore. I miss when KOFXI was still being played pretty frequently around here.

If you ever wanna play on GGPO, just let me know.

[asianxcore]

<3 Capcom LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=memo_zwfbas

[SmallWind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgNgB7wV-8g

[zewone]

Just tried GGPO and SFIII for the first time tonight. Very impressed.

[MarkMan]

http://sdtekken.com/2009/04/09/the-dream-match-revisited/

Namco is still interested in doing a Tekken vs. VF title, according to Tekken 6 director Katsuhiro Harada.

Namco has openly expressed its desire to bring the two genre-leading heavyweights together on several occasions in the past – a desire that’s not gone away.

Speaking to 360 Gamer, Harada said that a Tekken vs. VF game had come so close to happening on a few occasions, that Namco had even tested elements of the gameplay that could go into such a game.

“The truth is that I have been working to fulfil this dream from over ten years ago,” Harada replied, when asked if such a game could happen.

“There were several occasions on which it came close to realisation. Opinions may vary, but I have wanted to do this for a long time. Therefore, the chance is not zero. It is possible.

“However, there would be many difficulties during actual development. First off, which team would develop it? I have some ideas for the controls and fighting system. Some parts have even been tested.

“It’s really up to the fans and whether they want it. If you have opinions about this, please send them to me!”

Harada didn’t mention how things were looking at the moment. But with Mario & Sonic at the Olympics having done well for Sega, hopefully we’ll see its other great franchise given the chance to link up with its biggest rival.

[distgfx]

<3 Capcom LOL

Oh... my... god... an on-landing FA? No, it starts a bit before she visually hits the ground. Either way, I have got to try this.

[MarkMan]

they are in ground state, even tho it looks like you're in the air. so essentially yea they can FA, but you can throw them too lol.

[zewone]

I'd like to see the VF in a Tekken style gameplay.

VF = super boring. snooze.zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[distgfx]

they are in ground state, even tho it looks like you're in the air. so essentially yea they can FA, but you can throw them too lol.

Ah, so even though visually it looks like they're in the air to the game they're already in ground state? Makes sense. I must figure out the applications of this!

[RelentlessRolento]

http://sdtekken.com/2009/04/09/the-dream-match-revisited/


Please! the good trade off would be that Namco would spice up the VF characters and Sega would make Tekken boring! jk

[MarkMan]

I'd like to see Tekken characters utilizing the VF movement and I'd like to see VF chars using Tekken style system based attacks.

It'd be fun. Or Boring Groove and Masher Groove. Take your pick!

[RelentlessRolento]

I'd like to see Tekken characters utilizing the VF movement and I'd like to see VF chars using Tekken style system based attacks.

It'd be fun. Or Boring Groove and Masher Groove. Take your pick!


that'd be sweet... VF kinda has a light bound system already...

I wonder who would rival who? Jacky vs Paul?

definitely King vs El Blaze (almost called him El Fuerte)

[MarkMan]

No way... King vs Wolf...

El Blaze can play with Armor King or something.... might as well do this with the rest of the cast...



Sarah vs Nina
Jacky vs Law
Taka-Arashi vs Ganryu
Kage vs Raven/Yoshimitsu
Shun-Di vs Lei
Lau vs Heihachi
Pai vs Asuka
Jean vs Lars
Goh vs Dragunov
Brad vs Steve/Bruce
Akira vs Kazuya/Jin
Jeffrey vs Armor King/Jack-6
Vanessa vs Bryan?

And... Tekken has too many characters compared to VF...

[RelentlessRolento]

Armor King would eat El Blaze >_<

Marduk seems more like wolf's size though... though that dosn't matter...


I'd call Steve against Brad and Bryan against Goh.

[PhrostByte]

Tekken vs. VF would be.. interesting to say the least.

[RelentlessRolento]

so April 17th we get news on a SFIV update or info on the PC version.

[PhrostByte]

Yay... update.. yay...

Battle Fantasia first impressions: I like it a lot... although all Arc Systems games pretty much look the same, the graphics style is uniquely fantasy-ish and colorful. Also, the 2.5D definitely works. I'd say I like it more than DOA, KOF, and Guilty Gear, but less than SF, Tekken, and VF.

[MarkMan]

SF4 PC is gonna be sweet. You'll see. ;)

Maybe we should have a FGT chat again ;)

[Furashu]

we can chat on our ps3s

[Jest]

FGT chat would be cool, I wasn't around for it before I think.

Q: Do all Arc games use the http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1600/transparentjoystickhz7ub7.png layout?

[Strider Turbulence]

I'm at my wits end and getting so frustrated that I'm developing a scrub mentality but dear God how in the world am I supposed to defeat Zangief with Balrog in SF4? I can handle the throws, most zangief players can't even get one off me. It's the lariat, I just can't deal with it. Even the terrible giefs who just abuse it beat me and it kills me. I have some success zoning with standing jab and low rush to punish lariats, but all it takes it one knockdown and I'm being crosssed up and reminded just how terrible Balrog's headbutt is now (half the time they block that shit while landing or lariat beats it).

I can handle the Balrog vs Zangeif matchup just fine in SF2 and Cvs2, but not here.

[djbooba]

The Buffalo Headbutt should be one of Zangief's weaknesses. You should also learn the timing of the lariat so you can either jump in and get frame advantage or just hit them at the last possible moment. It takes a little while to get used to but once you do, that match isn't so bad. Now a good Zangief player will still be scary as hell.

[Arikado]

I'm at my wits end and getting so frustrated that I'm developing a scrub mentality but dear God how in the world am I supposed to defeat Zangief with Balrog in SF4? I can handle the throws, most zangief players can't even get one off me. It's the lariat, I just can't deal with it. Even the terrible giefs who just abuse it beat me and it kills me. I have some success zoning with standing jab and low rush to punish lariats, but all it takes it one knockdown and I'm being crosssed up and reminded just how terrible Balrog's headbutt is now (half the time they block that shit while landing or lariat beats it).

I can handle the Balrog vs Zangeif matchup just fine in SF2 and Cvs2, but not here.

Jump in deep roundhouse beats the lariat, make sure Balrog's fist hits around Gief's head. Once you get a lead, turtle like a bitch. You have no reason to get close anymore. If you're having problems with crossups, just backdash on wakeup.

This is a tough match for Balrog though. You just have to play smart and be sure to hit your links consistently.

[Strider Turbulence]

Thanks guys! I just lost to another 'gief but it was close (I rushed him like an idiot towards the end) now I at least know I have more option to use against him.
I still can't believe how well turtling works in this game.

[MarkMan]

If ppl aren't doing anything tonight (me) lets start one up... AIM or what?

[distgfx]

...*eyes shift* AIM sounds fine to me if I'm invited.

[asianxcore]

Ugh, so tired of randoms online. I want to build a time machine to see if when I first got into fighting games (SF1= giant cab) if I ever spoke the way online scrubs do.

I wish new players would get that blocking and tech throwing do wonders.

Won an Abel/Vega match and got called "cheezy" because I hit the square button 8 times in a row.

Who the fuck talks like that?

[heavyd853]

The best is when you do a bunch of crossups on them and they call you a cheater.

[suko_32]

I just double perfected a random Ken online. I don't know what to think.

[Inf^Shini]

I went 1-17 against a guy in player matches, yet I don't feel bad.

It's pretty cool to know you can bait people into DP's all day with Viper's lk bk though. For some reason they'll know it's coming after a while yet they take the bait anyways.

Free Ultra setups Ftw!

[distgfx]

Anybody see what I see?

http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/top_j.html

[zewone]

Mai?

[distgfx]

Mai?

*gives cookie* who else?

[heavyd853]

O shit Oh shit!!!!!


K motherfucking '

and mai! and others in the back!!!!!!


I hope this isn't a lie.

[distgfx]

O shit Oh shit!!!!!


K motherfucking '

and mai! and others in the back!!!!!!


I hope this isn't a lie.

They're redone in KoFXII's art style, I don't see why they'd go through the trouble if they weren't being added. Nothing's been officially said yet though. >_>

[PhrostByte]

*gives cookie* who else?

Yoshimitsu?

[gunm]

I give up, what are we looking for here?

The character list for XII is unchanged. I wouldn't be surprised to see more characters and unlockables in the console version, but that's still a few months out at least and we don't even know if they will be DLC or off disc.

Keep in mind that it's KOF anniversary so they're gonna make some new art to celebrate.

Anyway, I can't get excited until our man, MM confirms things.

[distgfx]

Yoshimitsu?

Sure, why not. :lol:

I give up, what are we looking for here?

Mai and K' redone in KoFXII's art style.

[Inf^Shini]

I hear they're gonna be DLC content!

[distgfx]

Keep in mind that it's KOF anniversary so they're gonna make some new art to celebrate.

:cry:

So cruel.

[gunm]

:cry:

So cruel.


Sorry man, wasn't trying to burst your bubble. :lol:

I figure there'll be extra characters like Mai, but that page you linked is just the general (Japan) KOF page and they are doing the Anniversary thing right now. The Official KOF XII page doesn't yet have any info on new/unlockable characters, but I'm sure if there's any console news to report we'll start seeing that kind of stuff then...

[kainzero]

Ugh, so tired of randoms online. I want to build a time machine to see if when I first got into fighting games (SF1= giant cab) if I ever spoke the way online scrubs do.

I wish new players would get that blocking and tech throwing do wonders.

Won an Abel/Vega match and got called "cheezy" because I hit the square button 8 times in a row.

Who the fuck talks like that?
i never get anything fun like this on XBL.*sigh*

but noobs are everywhere.
i beat someone in starcraft and he got mad and he messaged me

"fucking massing noob"
like i'm not supposed to win by making more units or something

[Jest]

Just spent 10 hours coding. Done my assignement! I have all Saturday night to get plastered now!!! YAY!! Anyone want to celebrate with some SFIV, STHDR, or SCIV (YES I went there)?

[Monsta Mack]

This is a Stupid Dopemix :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fNHQ4g1yA

[Nelo Ice]

whats this about a blazblue LE being $59 and the regular edition being $49?!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358189


*waits for MM to give ambiguous answer*

[asianxcore]

i never get anything fun like this on XBL.*sigh*

but noobs are everywhere.
i beat someone in starcraft and he got mad and he messaged me

"fucking massing noob"
like i'm not supposed to win by making more units or something

True story. I'm all for new players in any fighting game, keeps the community stronger. More competition

Thing is, shit like that is what I get annoyed with. Do we want a community filled with new players who make excuses when they lose. How about players that make excuses when they see tactics they've never seen before. I've always learned to take the losses on the chin and move on. Obviously if you lost, there is always a reason for it right?

If you lose, figure out why you lost and get better. Thing is I get confused because maybe these players don't want to get better, maybe they are just fine beating their friends and showing off to them. Who knows

[distgfx]

GGs Jest... I have the funniest feeling you don't like Akuma though... :-k

Your thousand hand slap took off a huge chunk of my life, what'd ya want me to do? :lol:

Those close games though... pure awesome.

[Jest]

Yeah GGs. Did you see my reply on PSN? I really do hate Akuma, and I have no idea what I'm doing with Honda, but that last little bit of that fight was awesome.

[distgfx]

Yea, I saw the reply :lol:

I'm not that big of a fan of akuma since you have to play a major keep away game since his health sucks. I loved that one match where we just constantly tech each other's throws. Seriously though, best matches I've had all night, extremely fun. Not to mention, I like fighting a variety of characters as well as picking them. ;)

[SmallWind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhuISsULK0

Time for more epic battles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0seAOBHjxE

[Japakneez]

whats this about a blazblue LE being $59 and the regular edition being $49?!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358189


*waits for MM to give ambiguous answer*


:rofl:

[PhrostByte]

True story. I'm all for new players in any fighting game, keeps the community stronger. More competition

Thing is, shit like that is what I get annoyed with. Do we want a community filled with new players who make excuses when they lose. How about players that make excuses when they see tactics they've never seen before. I've always learned to take the losses on the chin and move on. Obviously if you lost, there is always a reason for it right?

If you lose, figure out why you lost and get better. Thing is I get confused because maybe these players don't want to get better, maybe they are just fine beating their friends and showing off to them. Who knows

I think the problem a lot of new players have is that many of the more seasoned veterans are content with just beating the noobs and moving on.. never offering any advice on how to improve. That's what I noticed from most of the local SRK people I've met anyway.

[kainzero]

I think the problem a lot of new players have is that many of the more seasoned veterans are content with just beating the noobs and moving on.. never offering any advice on how to improve. That's what I noticed from most of the local SRK people I've met anyway.
the problem is that the company that puts out the game has no interest on seriously training the players or teaching them the "right" way to play or even vesting an interest in the true competitive scene, leaving it up to the scene itself to advance the competitive community.

why do i have to take the time out of my life to improve someone else? i will only do that if the guy actually shows that he wants to improve himself, because then he / she can teach me a few things too.

i've taken the time to train this one in girl in SC4 and SF3 because she said she wanted to learn but the fact is that she never took the time to seriously learn by herself or even grasp what i'm saying. i'd talk to her about frame advantage and learning key combos and punishers, and then the next day she'd tell me about how she learned how to do all the moves from the movelist and she still button mashes when she plays because she doesn't want to take the time to improve. it was a waste of my time.

that's why i don't care and that's why the veterans shouldn't care.

[RelentlessRolento]

Yay! very glad to See K' since he use to be my shitty main...

glad Mai is in it just because I want new boob animations.

[BlueSwim]

Did you guys hear that the World Cyber Games have banned both Seth and Gouken? I'm kinda surprised Akuma wasn't on that list too.

[SmallWind]

I'm kinda surprised Akuma wasn't on that list too. ...

[distgfx]

Any particular reason they were banned? I'm oblivious as to why they would be.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm more surprised gouken is banned. too powerful? maybe. Akuma too powerful? definitely not. I always felt Ryu was the strongest Shoto out of them all.

[JEKKI]

omg... I'm tryin to play SFIV...

first off... I havent played in a week and I'm getting my ass kicked!!

2ndly... I've only played 4 games!!! wtf where is everybody?!?! hype's over now?!?!

regardless I only won one of those 4... everybody's steppin up except me >_<

lost to Bison, Honda, n Rufus... beat Guile O_o

[PhrostByte]

the problem is that the company that puts out the game has no interest on seriously training the players or teaching them the "right" way to play or even vesting an interest in the true competitive scene, leaving it up to the scene itself to advance the competitive community.

why do i have to take the time out of my life to improve someone else? i will only do that if the guy actually shows that he wants to improve himself, because then he / she can teach me a few things too.

i've taken the time to train this one in girl in SC4 and SF3 because she said she wanted to learn but the fact is that she never took the time to seriously learn by herself or even grasp what i'm saying. i'd talk to her about frame advantage and learning key combos and punishers, and then the next day she'd tell me about how she learned how to do all the moves from the movelist and she still button mashes when she plays because she doesn't want to take the time to improve. it was a waste of my time.

that's why i don't care and that's why the veterans shouldn't care.

Maybe.. but I think that all boils down to something that I'll call, "overall ease of entry" as a group dynamic. A welcome environment usually becomes a thriving environment. I know that very few of the people I play locally (besides a couple great guys up at UMBC) really gave a fuck about helping me learn how to play SFIV. I had to learn from:



just playing online
CAGs
my one buddy from work

that's the only way I learned how to become semi-decent.

[JEKKI]

I'm kinda surprised Akuma wasn't on that list too. lol. I second the ...

I bet they're gonna ban good players also

[JEKKI]

FYI.

World Warrios pre-orders up now on triumvir

-EDIT-

and I dont like any of them TT_TT

[BlueSwim]

I should have posted a link to the ban story, which I am doing now (http://www.iplaywinner.com/news/2009/4/10/wcg-fighter-club-seth-and-gouken-banned.html).

And as for the Akuma comment I made, I've never used Akuma before SFIV and he seemed easier to lay some heavy smack down with than Gouken......That, and I've hardly played SFIV in the last month thanks to Best Buy's 50% off anime sale last month, so SFIV's fighter balancing isn't fresh in my mind.:lol:

[JEKKI]

damn so SFIV been out on console like 2 months already and only NOW I'm playing SmallWind for the first time

O_o what the hell?!?!

lol. on your chest btw.

GGs dood... but u gotta step it up!! I wanna see those dive kicks get low!!

Flo Rida style Rufus! shawty get low low low low low low low low~

[MarkMan]

I almost bought all the shirts then I realized, gad damn this is like 300 dollars...

*puts away wallet*

[Furashu]

i learned to improve by watching videos then reading srk stuff....

then experimenting with retarded combos that work.

then facing the same few people then random battles...

im still a newbie!

[distgfx]

You're serious about it though, you want to go on to play in tournaments and have been learning by yourself as well as through fights. Dunno why, but I seriously stepped up my game since I fought AXC. The gap between me and him was incredible. We need to fight again eventually.

EDIT: Oh and I think I can give some small advice about certain match ups now.

[SmallWind]

GGs dood... but u gotta step it up!! I wanna see those dive kicks get low!!

Flo Rida style Rufus! shawty get low low low low low low low low~:rofl: Don't want to get electrocuted doing dive kicks.

[distgfx]

VF5 ... is it worth picking up the 360 version? Based on the fact I have zero experience, would only play offline, or online with friends or you guys and have no stick for my 360, only the stock controller and chun-li fightpad. Is it still a version worth playing since VF5R is out in arcades (not sure actually)?

[gunm]

So I just back from my buddy's house after playing MK Vs DC. It's ok, I guess. How do you do the cancel/breakers? A couple times we were just spamming single punch moves over and over and the other guy couldn't get out of it. It was rather funny, actually.

[asianxcore]

You're serious about it though, you want to go on to play in tournaments and have been learning by yourself as well as through fights. Dunno why, but I seriously stepped up my game since I fought AXC. The gap between me and him was incredible. We need to fight again eventually.


You are making me blush! No seriously, it's always nice to see people take new information from every loss or every win of a fight. There are reasons for both. If you win, you can still see why you won or how you can get better. With losing, it's never just that. Why did you lose? What can you do better next time.

I realize not everyone wants to be tournament level or even cares, but I just can't stand this new generation of fighting game players (which spawned with SC4/SFIV) that throws around terms like "noob" and "cheap" without knowing what they are really saying.

Then again I also agree with kainzero, I've gotten to the point with fighting games where I am open to teach anyone who is willing to learn. I am always open to answer questions or help out with matchups, or pick out what can make someones character tighter. For example tonight I was at a big get together with my friends and there were games going on in every room of this house. Lots of people were asking and talking about SFIV and how they could improve, or how they beat this certain matchup and so on. These people seemed very sincere about learning and not once did anyone complain with "Oh god, he's so cheap" or "That's so cheesy" or anything like that. They all took losses on the chin and applied themselves to casuals in SFIV later.

I had the experience of having my old crew work really hard to get us up to speed in many FG games. Most of them were really good and then one day they all collectively stopped playing, answering phone calls and practicing. It was disheartening as a friend and as a fellow member of a fighting game group. They didn't care enough to keep going seriously (which was also fun at the same time), so I didn't care to want to push them to play all the time. So now I'm with a different group of friends/crew that has a ton of fun but also we push each other to do our best and learn new tactics.

You learn wherever you can take it nowadays. Information is everywhere and arcades are still thriving in certain parts of the country. Competition is everywhere, you just gotta look.

On a kind of related note (not really), at the party I went to tonight we threw a 16-18 man (maybe more) SFIV Tournament.

Rules were:
-Double Elim
-Winner keeps character
-3 Rounds
-Best 2/3
-Losers & Winners Bracket

It was the most fun I've had recently and I took first place with Abel/Seth. I won the winners bracket clean and then sat around all night talking, hanging out until Winner's final. Too fun!

Got home at 5am though :)

[RelentlessRolento]

So I just back from my buddy's house after playing MK Vs DC. It's ok, I guess. How do you do the cancel/breakers? A couple times we were just spamming single punch moves over and over and the other guy couldn't get out of it. It was rather funny, actually.

yeah... I have alot to say about MK vs DC...

I like the look of some of the character models and cutscene animations.

...That's the only positive thing I can say about it :bomb:

The same day I got it from gamefly I beat both story modes and sent it back.

[Jimbo Slice]

Maybe.. but I think that all boils down to something that I'll call, "overall ease of entry" as a group dynamic. A welcome environment usually becomes a thriving environment. I know that very few of the people I play locally (besides a couple great guys up at UMBC) really gave a fuck about helping me learn how to play SFIV. I had to learn from:



just playing online
CAGs
my one buddy from work

that's the only way I learned how to become semi-decent.

4. Playing with Jim

[hankmecrankme]

I realize not everyone wants to be tournament level or even cares, but I just can't stand this new generation of fighting game players (which spawned with SC4/SFIV) that throws around terms like "noob" and "cheap" without knowing what they are really saying.


Agreed with this. That's mostly why I don't play too many randoms in fighters. I did play everybody in VF5 online. I always hosted. I haven't played more than a few randoms in SFIV. I'm waiting for rooms. If a fighter has rooms, I don't mind playing randoms.

I've never had a crew to roll with and play fighters with. At most, it was a few friends and I playing SCII. FGT is the only crew I have, really. I need to move out of Podunk and to where I can find locals to play.

VF5 ... is it worth picking up the 360 version? Based on the fact I have zero experience, would only play offline, or online with friends or you guys and have no stick for my 360, only the stock controller and chun-li fightpad. Is it still a version worth playing since VF5R is out in arcades (not sure actually)?

I love VF5, and the 360 version is the current best home version. VF5 R will probably never come home. :cry:

On the stock 360 pad, it's not too bad. I got used to it, but damn that pad sucks ass. I blew out my wireless 360 pad's dpad playing so much VF5. Now that I have a 360 stick, I want to get back into it.

Since I've seen it for cheap, I'd say go for it. I'll play you in it. :)

[PhrostByte]

VF5 ... is it worth picking up the 360 version? Based on the fact I have zero experience, would only play offline, or online with friends or you guys and have no stick for my 360, only the stock controller and chun-li fightpad. Is it still a version worth playing since VF5R is out in arcades (not sure actually)?

I'd play you.

4. Playing with Jim

I lumped you in with the other CAGs. :D

[BlueSwim]

VF5 ... is it worth picking up the 360 version? Based on the fact I have zero experience, would only play offline, or online with friends or you guys and have no stick for my 360, only the stock controller and chun-li fightpad. Is it still a version worth playing since VF5R is out in arcades (not sure actually)?
Yeah, get it. Even with a stock 360 pad, it's worth it. The offline "Quest" mode can take about 20 hours to get through, depending on the difficulty. Highly recommended.8-)8-)8-)

[kainzero]

I realize not everyone wants to be tournament level or even cares, but I just can't stand this new generation of fighting game players (which spawned with SC4/SFIV) that throws around terms like "noob" and "cheap" without knowing what they are really saying.

Then again I also agree with kainzero, I've gotten to the point with fighting games where I am open to teach anyone who is willing to learn. I am always open to answer questions or help out with matchups, or pick out what can make someones character tighter. For example tonight I was at a big get together with my friends and there were games going on in every room of this house. Lots of people were asking and talking about SFIV and how they could improve, or how they beat this certain matchup and so on. These people seemed very sincere about learning and not once did anyone complain with "Oh god, he's so cheap" or "That's so cheesy" or anything like that. They all took losses on the chin and applied themselves to casuals in SFIV later.
In my mind, with the amount of information available on the internet now and the speed at which combos / videos are put up, it is EASY to figure out the general flow of the game and how to play... not like back in the days when everyone played Duc's MvC2 Spiral / Cable / Clops because that was the ONLY video available on SRK.

And it pisses me off when they can't reach the basic level of play before asking to be taught.

Example was a couple years back, when a friend of mine (Afam) had a little FG meetup. Well there was this guy that said he wanted to get better. Fair enough, but when we got there he was doing J.HK - C.HK combos in CvS2, misusing terms like Frame Advantage to make himself sound smarter, and calling Bison cheap because of his roll kick (this, btw, was after he saw the PTF combo). Then he kept saying how great DoA was and that he was on Afam's skill level in T5 because he put him in the air and then mashed buttons for a combo.

To me, that's unacceptable. I don't want to take the time to make you better if you can't reach a basic level by yourself. If you at least show that basic level, and you ask questions, people usually will take the time to answer them. And it's easy to befriend people in FGs anyway.

It's not even about being "tournament-level" (whatever that means, I mean, the only thing it takes to be a tournament player is to pay the entry fee), but to just sit down and enjoy the game and it's learning curve and to get better.

[asianxcore]

More good points kainzero. Also sorry to be confusing with the "tournament level" description, I guess what I should've said is that not everyone cares to learn constant and consistent high level play. Again most people who throw those key words (n00b, cheap) around are fine with barely learning the basics and learning one flashy combo to "wow" their friends.

My view on it is if someone is going to call me "cheap" or a "noob" because they can't adapt, I hold them in a different light than someone just learning. I was talking about it last night to my friends, we all still don't get those words used mostly when players can't adapt. If I know someone is unable to tech my throws, you damn sure I'm going to keep doing it. If I know they are susceptible to cross-ups/mix-ups, I'll do that shit too. I shouldn't have to dumb down my gameplay because the other person can't figure out what I am and am not capable of in the first match or so.

To go more on your point about information, internet match videos still feel VERY new to me. I am happy I can watch players from all over the country, but at the same time I think like you do. With all these videos for people to study for FREE, assuming they want to get better, why don't they? There's just so many tools for new players to get better, even if everyone in the fighting game community isn't lending a hand.

I can look up videos from players all over the country. I have several message boards where there are character breakdowns, match-ups, BnB's, everything I could ever want to know about a fighting game without even leaving my chair.

Not to date myself, but when I first got into SFI/SFII, there was none of that. You learned to adapt by getting your ass beat/embarrassed in front of crowds at arcades. You plunked down all the money you had so you could get better. There was no way at the time I could play someone from outside of my area (via internet), so all my comp was my friends and people I met and talked to at arcades. I just find that many new players that I see on SFIV online (and I know it's not indicative of the entire wave of new players) just bitch because overall they are just sore losers. They are playing a game that for years they thought was just a simple game and they "owned" people at arcades years ago. I just still don't appreciate people making up crappy excuses and calling people names if their own skill is at fault.

There are just TOO many tools to study via ANY fighting game you want to learn nowadays. If you truly do want to get better and play high level, the information is there and there is nothing stopping you. Just commit and commit. Play when you don't want to. Practice the same shit over and over till you are sick of it. Apply it, make friends, have fun!

[distgfx]

Wow... I know I have no right to speak about this particular subject but... Isn't it more fun to figure out this stuff on your own anyway? Even if I lose a lot, I'd rather learn that way because it's more fun. I'll be honest, I'm not trying to get to tournament level and probably never will for any fighter. I do however love playing them and getting better. I've never been a competitive person though. :-#

Thanks for the recommendation on VF5 guys, looks like I'll be picking it up.

[asianxcore]

Mr. Beef UPDATE!

Decided to send a text to Beef to see what he was up to. He said he doesn't have an internet connection right now, which is why he hasn't been online at all.

Said he should be back next weekend.

[MarkMan]

GamePro Feature Interview On Tekken 6! (http://sdtekken.com/2009/04/11/gamepro-feature-interview-on-tekken-6/)

April 11, 2009

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[URL="http://www.gamepro.com/"]GamePro (http://www.gamepro.com/) sat down with Tekken series producer Katsuhiro Harada recently and picked his brain about the console version of Tekken 6. He mentions exciting new features and some special surprises for the online experience. Click below for the full interview!


Read the rest of this entry » (http://sdtekken.com/2009/04/11/gamepro-feature-interview-on-tekken-6/#more-2216)

[suko_32]

Mr. Beef UPDATE!

Decided to send a text to Beef to see what he was up to. He said he doesn't have an internet connection right now, which is why he hasn't been online at all.

Said he should be back next weekend.

That's nice to know. I was starting to think something happened to him.

[distgfx]

<3 Animation in T6BR, they're dead sexy compared to other Tekken games.

[PhrostByte]

That's a lot of characters! Has to be more than Tekken Tag even..

[Inf^Shini]

yeah... I have alot to say about MK vs DC...

I like the look of some of the character models and cutscene animations.

...That's the only positive thing I can say about it :bomb:

The same day I got it from gamefly I beat both story modes and sent it back.
I have heard the lamentations of Kombo Challenges :lol:

I'll be on SFIV in a bit if anyone feels like playing

[suko_32]

GG's AxC. I think I'm in a slump that started this past week. Though, I think our games just then was a combination of that and you getting better lol. Half my wins came from gief + honda :-(

[asianxcore]

GG's AxC. I think I'm in a slump that started this past week. Though, I think our games just then was a combination of that and you getting better lol. Half my wins came from gief + honda :-(

GG's to you Suko. Always put up good matches.

I was curious about that too. Your Ryu/Ken are usually dead on but they seemed a little off in those matches. Also I know you used to FA my Seth wall jumps a bunch, but I didn't see too much of it in those matches. Solid nonetheless.

Also those times I was standing around as Abel wasn't meant to taunt, I am starting to practice Abel's Ultra on reaction to fireball startup :)

[Inf^Shini]

Heh, I'm going for completing the game with everyone on medium or higher along with save your quarters trophy and ended up getting the no continue one with the one person I have never attempted to learn...Gief :lol:

Now I know the power the Red Cyclone wields!

Also, Blanka's intro/ending is just adorable, he does everything for his mama :-P

[distgfx]

You can FA Seth's wall jump? Good to know. ;)

[suko_32]

GG's to you Suko. Always put up good matches.

I was curious about that too. Your Ryu/Ken are usually dead on but they seemed a little off in those matches. Also I know you used to FA my Seth wall jumps a bunch, but I didn't see too much of it in those matches. Solid nonetheless.

Also those times I was standing around as Abel wasn't meant to taunt, I am starting to practice Abel's Ultra on reaction to fireball startup :)

Dammit lol. Now that I have an outside opinion of my Ryu/Ken, I know it's true and not just me. Honestly I have no clue what's going on. It started one day when I lost 400 BP one day, then about another 500 BP the next day. I think it's exams and stuff. I can't shake this crappiness off (yet).

As for the Seth thing, it's because you throw a sonic boom now sometimes before you wall jump. I absorb that so I don't think I can take your wall jump kick so I don't go for it. Correct me if I'm wrong though :)

When you're standing around as Abel when our health was low...yeah I know the reason. That's why I wasn't throwing many fireballs and attempting to make it hard for you to predict, so don't worry. I caught on :)

[asianxcore]

Dammit lol. Now that I have an outside opinion of my Ryu/Ken, I know it's true and not just me. Honestly I have no clue what's going on. It started one day when I lost 400 BP one day, then about another 500 BP the next day. I think it's exams and stuff. I can't shake this crappiness off (yet).

As for the Seth thing, it's because you throw a sonic boom now sometimes before you wall jump. I absorb that so I don't think I can take your wall jump kick so I don't go for it. Correct me if I'm wrong though :)

When you're standing around as Abel when our health was low...yeah I know the reason. That's why I wasn't throwing many fireballs and attempting to make it hard for you to predict, so don't worry. I caught on :)

It's not that your Ryu/Ken are completely awful now, I just have come to expect a certain level of play with your Shotos and HeavyD's. Your Ryu is usually pretty lockdown and I was surprised I was getting away with a lot of free stuff with Abel/Seth.

Exams can do that to you. Once that shit is over, you'll get out of your funk.

Also you might be right about the Boom before Wall Jump. I've learned so much more with Abel/Seth in the past month or so that I just automatically applied and still don't realize I'm doing it. The only time I will Wall Jump without boom now is if I know I can get the opponent on Fireball startup.

You can FA Seth's wall jump? Good to know. ;)

Yes! Also that is (like Suko said) if I don't follow the Boom off the wall or if I don't get a clean cross-up out of it. Landing short gets FA punish.

[distgfx]

I love learning small stuff like that. May not work against you but it'll come in handy eventually. :lol:

[suko_32]

I love learning small stuff like that. May not work against you but it'll come in handy eventually. :lol:

I don't do it against the arcade mode Seth though. I'm scared.

[distgfx]

There's no way I'd ever try it against the arcade mode Seth, not a chance in hell. :cry:

[Inf^Shini]

I do it all the time with him. The one thing I tend not to do is rush him. He's a lot easier when you make him come to you.

[JEKKI]

frickin easter weekend maaaaan...

I didnt go to Denjin tournament coz of it... had I gone I woulda lost my whole weekend due to family stuff tomorrow.

I made up for it by getting stuff done today tho... I should play more SF at home now lol

[Jimbo Slice]

Man I lost a bunch of battle points from playing ranked matches last night when i was drunk and then this morning when I was hungout


off-topic, but does anyone else have Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom and wanna play online co-op? I just got it for 10 bucks.

[Jimbo Slice]

also, i changed my GT because of teaching (dont want my students to be able to find me), so just a heads up

[hankmecrankme]

Splatterhouse 2. :) Why not JIMBO THUGGIN' SLICE?

Also, Splatterhouse 2 is awesome.

[BlueSwim]

Well, after 3+ years of loyal service, my launch 360 has red-ringed. Over two months of waiting for Capcom to ship my TE stick and the system I bought it for is dead. Fuck......Just, fuck.:(:(:(:(:(:(

Oh well, I guess I should be happy my launch unit lasted this long.

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Trivia Time: Did you know that Vic Mignogna, who voiced Junpei Iori in Persona 3, Edward from Full Metal Alchemist and Kurz Weber from Full Metal Panic, was the voice of Vega in Street Fighter II? It was also his first voice acting gig. Not a bad start, if I do say so, myself.

[asianxcore]

Sorry to hear about your 360 BlueSwim. What are you going to do next?

My launch 360 mysteriously wiped my hard drive clean about year or two ago. Shitty stuff.

Also after seeing so many of those D/L costumes in SFIV at the gathering last night, I decided to cave in and purchase all of them :(

[JEKKI]

Splatterhouse 2. :) Why not JIMBO THUGGIN' SLICE?

Also, Splatterhouse 2 is awesome.lol, what about Thuggin House 2?

and dang I jus beat Rez... damn that Area 5 is crazy!!!

[BlueSwim]

Sorry to hear about your 360 BlueSwim. What are you going to do next?

My launch 360 mysteriously wiped my hard drive clean about year or two ago. Shitty stuff.

Also after seeing so many of those D/L costumes in SFIV at the gathering last night, I decided to cave in and purchase all of them :(
Thanks, man.8-) I'm giving it some heavy thought. Repairing would be cheaper, but replacing it with a 360 Arcade unit would guarantee one with the newest motherboard. Decisions, decisions....:-k

Funny thing was that I used my RRoD safety net fund to buy the TE.#-o...:lol:

Sorry to hear what happened with your 360. I couldn't imagine losing all my saves like that. I'M NOT ABOUT TO PUT ANOTHER 350 HOURS INTO RUMBLE ROSES XX!!!:lol:

[distgfx]

Just wanna chime in, get a new 360 arcade unit, do not pay MS to fix yours.

[BlueSwim]

Just wanna chime in, get a new 360 arcade unit, do not pay MS to fix yours.
I'm kinda leaning that way, especially after that one guy went through about a dozen 360s when dealing with M$ support.

[RelentlessRolento]

lol, what about Thuggin House 2?

and dang I jus beat Rez... damn that Area 5 is crazy!!!


u... u never beat it? and you watch Co-Op? on Area 5 TV????!?!?!?

:lol: jk

but yeah, area 5 has a permanent impression on my life.



also yes, Tekken 6 has the sexiest animation in any fighter I've ever seen. It's the one fighter I say that looking at screens dosn't do crap like it does all other games... you have to see it in motion to really realize how nice it looks.

[distgfx]

also yes, Tekken 6 has the sexiest animation in any fighter I've ever seen. It's the one fighter I say that looking at screens dosn't do crap like it does all other games... you have to see it in motion to really realize how nice it looks.

Yea, animation wise it looks like it has the potential to beat Dead or Alive.

[RelentlessRolento]

Yea, animation wise it looks like it has the potential to beat Dead or Alive.

:lol: I honestly don't get your gist on that, but I lul'd anyway

[MarkMan]

How many people has actually seen Tekken 6/Tekken 6 BR in motion on an official cabinet/HD monitor?

That shit is hot fire... the amount of detail and shit going on in the background is insane...

[RelentlessRolento]

How many people has actually seen Tekken 6/Tekken 6 BR in motion on an official cabinet/HD monitor?

That shit is hot fire... the amount of detail and shit going on in the background is insane...


to be honest, I haven't but based off the HD footage I have seen recorded, it's already hot, and if on an official screen the framerate is even higher, I will never need a woman to satisfy me (jk... i really hope)

[asianxcore]

How many people has actually seen Tekken 6/Tekken 6 BR in motion on an official cabinet/HD monitor?

That shit is hot fire... the amount of detail and shit going on in the background is insane...

I went to SVGL a couple months ago and they had T6 and Blazblue on HD Viewlix Cabs. Too nice

Also I know HeavyD will agree with me right now.....so fuck PSN

Couldn't even get a game going. Hopefully whatever the hell is wrong will fix itself soon.

[heavyd853]

Yeah that fucking sucked, no online for SFIV tonight.

Though in the meantime I hit the training room and mastered cammy's cannon strike trick, I did 21 in a row before I finished haha.

I also found out she can focus-taunt-fadc-ultra just like Ken, which is awesome since her taunts are great.

[RelentlessRolento]

Holy Shit!

anyone see this? sorry if repost:

http://www.gamerbytes.com/2009/04/fatal_fury_mark_of_the_wolves.php

[distgfx]

Holy Shit!

anyone see this? sorry if repost:

http://www.gamerbytes.com/2009/04/fatal_fury_mark_of_the_wolves.php

Not sure if it was posted but I pray to god that it makes its way here if true. Now that would inspire me to pick up a stick for my 360 ... a little more.

EDIT:

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll53/uraizen/IMAG0050.jpg

Yay! It arrived! Pretty big though, had to order 2 sizes bigger than my normal size. Fair warning to those of you who are anywhere near 6'2"... the shirt is very disappointingly short.

[asianxcore]

Anyone want to play SFIV on PSN?

[Rodimus]

Trivia Time: Did you know that Vic Mignogna, who voiced Junpei Iori in Persona 3, Edward from Full Metal Alchemist and Kurz Weber from Full Metal Panic, was the voice of Vega in Street Fighter II? It was also his first voice acting gig. Not a bad start, if I do say so, myself.

The Street Fighter II animated movie or the game?

[PhrostByte]

Not sure if it was posted but I pray to god that it makes its way here if true. Now that would inspire me to pick up a stick for my 360 ... a little more.

EDIT:

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll53/uraizen/IMAG0050.jpg

Yay! It arrived! Pretty big though, had to order 2 sizes bigger than my normal size. Fair warning to those of you who are anywhere near 6'2"... the shirt is very disappointingly short.


I got mine too.. sweet shirt. I'm 6'0" and mine is almost long no me. :D

[distgfx]

I got mine too.. sweet shirt. I'm 6'0" and mine is almost long no me. :D

Bah! I must of grown then, I last had my height checked when I was like 17.

[JEKKI]

maaaaaan... today is like the first major holiday since ever that I didnt go to the arcade.

I was rite by it too, but then I was like eh I wanna go home...

How many people has actually seen Tekken 6/Tekken 6 BR in motion on an official cabinet/HD monitor?

That shit is hot fire... the amount of detail and shit going on in the background is insane...I donno man... I saw the screens on gaf.

I mean, there's like alias and compression and a bunch of other bad crap going on that really matter.

the game sucks... it's undeniable. The screens tell all, u can quote me on that too.

[zewone]

My 3600 RROD too. :(
Going through SFIV withdrawls. :( :(
I got a new Jasper 360 coming from Dell tomorrow though. :bouncy:

[RelentlessRolento]

Get it on PS3 Zew so I can finally play you.

[zewone]

I sort of want to, but I don't have a stick for PS3.

[distgfx]

Get it on PS3 Zew so I can finally play you.

*glares*

I sort of want to, but I don't have a stick for PS3.

I wouldn't let that stop me. I happen to have it for the 360 myself. :lol:

[heavyd853]

Do it zew! Get a fs3 or something

[Jest]

Do it zew! Get a fs3 or something

:puke:

[kainzero]

Wow... I know I have no right to speak about this particular subject but... Isn't it more fun to figure out this stuff on your own anyway? Even if I lose a lot, I'd rather learn that way because it's more fun. I'll be honest, I'm not trying to get to tournament level and probably never will for any fighter. I do however love playing them and getting better. I've never been a competitive person though. :-#
it's up to you.

personally i don't like focusing practice on stuff that would end up being meaningless.

like if i found a crazy combo with a 1-frame link and i perfected it endlessly, but in the end there's a much easier combo that does more damage, then yeah, you know?

plus when i play against competition, there's a lot of stuff that i figure out that i can't really explain, but is really helpful to learn.

for example, i was watching my friend play online. and i knew exactly what would come out, what move the opponent would do, JUST based on experience. and it's not like i knew the opponent, but i can key in and read the patterns. you can't teach that or read about it in an article, and it's the kind of stuff you learn when you play.

if i were gonna try to explain it, then... it'd be like
"Yeah, in this situation he does a jump kick, because you've been poking him for a while and you can tell that he's impatient and won't sit there all the time. "

or

"He's ultra-aggressive based on the way he's been doing his combos and reversals, so as soon as he jumps back he's gonna do a super fireball, just jump over it and combo."

there's no rationale for that, you just think that way and yeah

[distgfx]

Isn't the lesson of your post the gist of what I said too? O.o

[heavyd853]

Man, ggs Gigan, quit beasting.

I hate balrog so much, he's the dumbest character in SFIV. I don't know why people cry about sagat when that guy can ultra you from a jab, which I swear is like one frame and has fierce priority -_-

[kainzero]

Isn't the lesson of your post the gist of what I said too? O.o
i don't know

i wrote it because i finished playing starcraft
and whenever i finish playing starcraft i can multitask and write stuff really fast

[JEKKI]

SF4 results from last nite.

SF4 (48 Entrants)
1) Ken-I (Rufus)
2) UltraDavid (Dhalsim, Zangief)
3) IronFist (Sagat)
4) Kai (El Fuerte)
5) Gootecks (Boxer)
5) Amir (Ken, Ryu)
7) Dae (Chun-li)
7) Tatsu (Claw)

I missed out... but I'm at another crossroads where I dont kno how to level my shyt up if I want any chance of getting thru a few rounds for the next one.

[gunm]

Anybody importing Blaz Blue? Drop date is June 25th in the Mother country. I'd prefer to wait until the US port, but I'm tempted on the accompanying Hori sticks for the game. I guess the PS3 version is a HRAP3 and the 360...looks like an EX2? MM has been oddly silent about our BB musings this weekend...

[MarkMan]

Ken-I won two tournaments in one day... both of them had around 50 ppl... nuts!

[MarkMan]

Anybody importing Blaz Blue? Drop date is June 25th in the Mother country. I'd prefer to wait until the US port, but I'm tempted on the accompanying Hori sticks for the game. I guess the PS3 version is a HRAP3 and the 360...looks like an EX2? MM has been oddly silent about our BB musings this weekend...

BB? Import if you want, but the US version will come out 5 days later. ;)

And I'll continue to be quiet about BB. :x

[BlueSwim]

BB? Import if you want, but the US version will come out 5 days later. ;)

And I'll continue to be quiet about BB. :x
I love your kind of "quiet".:lol::lol::lol:;)

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Hey, guys. I have a question. I'm writing up a CAG Blog post the proposes the merging of all of the discussion forums into one, NeoGAF-styled gaming discussion forum. So, before I post it and make an ass out of myself, what do you guys think of the idea?

[asianxcore]

Anybody importing Blaz Blue? Drop date is June 25th in the Mother country. I'd prefer to wait until the US port, but I'm tempted on the accompanying Hori sticks for the game. I guess the PS3 version is a HRAP3 and the 360...looks like an EX2? MM has been oddly silent about our BB musings this weekend...

According to the Console Podcast on Aksys, they said the U.S release should be the same as the JPN release if not close to.

Gamestop apparently has pre-orders going for Blazblue already.

[option.iv]

I should really get into SFIV agian. But for some reason I can't really get into it. Strangely enough, Socom is sucking more time from me these days. I did try out a new character today hoping to reveal something new. But I learned that I suck with Fei Long hard when I played gigan's Balrog. While we're at it, anyone got any tips for Fei Long?

[RelentlessRolento]

I need to get back into SFIV but finally started playing Valkyrie Chronicles more since I beat a level I was stuck at about a few months ago.

I still hate playing on pad... no time to even buy stick yet.

[gunm]

Oh good, I hadn't heard about pre-orders opening for BlazBlue US yet, so I was getting a little concerned there.

[PhrostByte]

You guys think we'll actually need to pre-order BlazBlue? I bet we'll be able to find plenty of copies on release day.

[Zmonkay]

Question to those that play fighters online on PS3: How is the network compared to 360? I want BlazBlue for PS3 (better controller, maybe even work with the Saturn usb pad) but if PS3's netcode is crap for fighters, am curious if I should hunt down a SFIV pad for 360 and get it on there. (I think I read BB has online, right?)

[LostRoad]

You guys think we'll actually need to pre-order BlazBlue? I bet we'll be able to find plenty of copies on release day.

I doubt it. I really don't see this having the same hype that SFIV pulled in, which is good and bad.

Zmonkay--- Yes it will support online play via a lobby system. The PS3 network is fine imo, I have had no real problems with it. Hell unless you have a custom stick or one of the Madcatz SFIV sticks I say go with the PS3 version. The Hori sticks for the 360 are crap, square gate makes me want to punch a baby. With the PS3 you can use a dongle to use your old PS2 sticks. Now if someone comes and tells me there is a dongle for PS2 to 360 I will have your babies.

[distgfx]

Isn't the lesson of your post the gist of what I said too? O.o

Eh, works for me

You guys think we'll actually need to pre-order BlazBlue? I bet we'll be able to find plenty of copies on release day.

If what I read is true, since there will supposedly be a CE *looks at MarkMan* I would. If you want the supposed CE *looks at MarkMan* that is.

[option.iv]

Question to those that play fighters online on PS3: How is the network compared to 360? I want BlazBlue for PS3 (better controller, maybe even work with the Saturn usb pad) but if PS3's netcode is crap for fighters, am curious if I should hunt down a SFIV pad for 360 and get it on there. (I think I read BB has online, right?)
I really have had no problems with the network (PSN). However in STHDR and SFIV, the online play is pretty bad. This is due to their horrible online coding. STHDR still has a couple connection glitches but is much better after the patch (not as many network disconnects). Finding a match in SFIV is crap since you can find a match faster in arcade mode set to accept challenges. If I connect to a friend within the area, gameplay is fine (no real lag). None of these problems are due to PSN, but the games themselves.

Overall, the lag in these games are almost nonexistant with STHDR using a netcode approved by GGPO and SFIV playing just fine with 3+ bars on connection (never seen a 5 bar).

Since the last patch, text chat rooms were introduced. It seems some games are affected by this. At least in Socom, other CAGs were disconnected claiming it was the text chat room's fault. Not exactly sure about this, so you can't exactly put the blame on the text chat rooms just yet. I did however host an hour long STHDR night and I stayed connected just fine the whole hour. However, there was a CAG who was having some connection troubles, don't know if it was the PSN side or client side. He claimed it was his crappy connection.

The PSN is really good I think, especially considering it's free. If there are any frustrations, it's usually the game's fault and it's most likely shared cross-platform.

I really prefer the PS3 version because of the stick compatibility. However, I read that some of the ps2/ps3 adapters were not working after the patch. You'll have to read into this (at ps3 forums) if you use an adapter.

[distgfx]

I really prefer the PS3 version because of the stick compatibility. However, I read that some of the ps2/ps3 adapters were not working after the patch. You'll have to read into this (at ps3 forums) if you use an adapter.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181187 ;)

[Zmonkay]

Big thanks for the input LostRoad and option.iv. I'll be picking up BlazBlue on release for PS3 then. Just waitin on making a preorder for the "supposed" CE.

[Jimbo Slice]

I'm not even 100% sure that I'm going to get Blazblue. I could never get into any Guilty Gear games. I'm sure I'll be a sucker and buy it day 1 though lol.

[RelentlessRolento]

I like playing Guilty Gear games, but I never make it a point to be good at them just because the system always feels like a huge clusterfeck to me.

[gunm]

Ah, Amazon finally put up the King of Fighters XII pre-orders for both 360 and PS3. Right now $3 discount on PS3. They have it as a July 7th release date.

[RelentlessRolento]

PS3 for me... I do hope online is functional.

[Furashu]

ive never played guilty gear,

do u guys think blaz blu would be a huge improvement over guilty gear?
main reason being is i dont wanna drop $60 on BB then not like it.

the only Fighting games i really played are SF 2 turbo, marvel vs capcom 1 & 2, xmen vs street fighter and SF4 with SF4 being the only one i played for more then a few hrs.

im considering BB or KOF12, KOF12 looks too similar to SF4.

opinions?advice? thanks :)

[PhrostByte]

I never liked Guilty Gear much either.. but I have been enjoying Battle Fantasia thus far. I'll probably get both BlazBlue and KOFXII (never really been a KOF fan either for that matter). A big part of it has to do with supporting the genre. I doubt I'll get any CE's.

[RelentlessRolento]

furu just get a cheap version of Guilty Gear (stay away from Isuka though) and see if you like it. Easiest way to try it now is if you got a PSP download it off PSN since it's only roughly $6.

[hankmecrankme]

I fucking love Guilty Gear, so hell yeah I'm pumped for BlazBlue. I'll probably go PS3 on it too. I hope online is good on it. . .

[Zmonkay]

If you enjoy any of the older Vs games, especially MvC2, I don't see you you wouldn't like GG. Fast, flash, and combo heavy as hell. As ReRo said though, the system is kinda a clusterfuck. There's a TON of depth, but many of the systems don't make sense at first. Thankfully it's really accesible to new players too. There's no need for using such things as False Roman Cancels (or even Roman Cancels) at first, but I love that its there for the more die hard/tourney players.

#Reload or Slash should be found cheap nowadays, but as said, avoid Isuka like the plague. GG is one of my favorite series, and I could only tolerate Isuka for 20 minutes... blech. Or just pick up AC Plus when it comes out soon. Should be hella tight.

As for if BlazBlue is an improvement? Jekki, wut u think?

[GuilewasNK]

Hey...

When the heck did they roll out the last SSFIIHD Remix update? I hadn't played this in a long time, I went online line the other day, got the update and noticed that records are now displayed in the game lobbies. I thought they didn't include that to keep people from quitting before matches so much.

[Jimbo Slice]

If you enjoy any of the older Vs games, especially MvC2, I don't see you you wouldn't like GG.

cause they're way different? :D

[BlueSwim]

Hey ReRo, you got name-dropped on Capcom-Unity's blog (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/blog/2009/04/13/the_gaf_collection_does_capcom) for your (incredibly awesome) Mega Man artwork again.:applause::applause::applause:

[RelentlessRolento]

Hey ReRo, you got name-dropped on Capcom-Unity's blog (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/blog/2009/04/13/the_gaf_collection_does_capcom) for your (incredibly awesome) Mega Man artwork again.:applause::applause::applause:


nice!

I haven't had time to do anymore vector artwork, but it's something I'll be getting into once my semester is over.

S-Kill left a comment on my profile a few days ago. he seemed to like my ryu
drawing


Kinda funny GAF "stole" my picture :roll: :lol:


EDIT: looks like GAF used my other pic as well:

http://www.palesky.com/misc/gaf_collection_collected/3416903716_aee24d81ee_o.jpg

[Jimbo Slice]

MM was the one that posted them on GAF, ReRo.

[MarkMan]

Yes... and credited you as well. ;)

[RelentlessRolento]

MM was the one that posted them on GAF, ReRo.


Oh, :lol:

no probs there then MM :bouncy:

I thought I recognized ur famous SDTekken font :)

[Dandeschain]

I'm mega hype for KOFXII. Day one for sure.

[hankmecrankme]

Me too. Probably day one for me.

[Zmonkay]

cause they're way different? :D

You think? I would say that at least on the surface there are some def. comparisons. Unlike many other 2d fighters (SF series, KoF, CvS, etc) they are very fast and combo heavy fighters. I would venture that they stem from the Darkstalkers format (imho SF2 with more show and pizazz, plus the introduction of chain combos) and just got crazier as they went on. At least, that's how I've always viewed them. Other, more "technical" or slower based fighters have just never been my cup of tea. So basically, I lumped 2d fighters into 2 basic groups, and put GG in the faster group with MVC et al.

[heavyd853]

Blazblu is great, but don't expect it to be too much like guilty gear. Its way slower and stuff feels alot heavier.

[RelentlessRolento]

KoFXII day one for me...

I really am kinda pissed I haven't gotten KoF98UM yet... I also am kinda waiting for it to go on sale.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: skills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65S_j_SwI9Q

[asianxcore]

Blazblu is great, but don't expect it to be too much like guilty gear. Its way slower and stuff feels alot heavier.

This is true. The times I've played it that's one of the first things I thought.

I'm going to pre-order the PS3 version anyway. I don't want to have to scour my area for a copy on release.

Also Blazblue is stupid gorgeous in HD.

[suko_32]

I'm most likely going PS3 for Blazblue.

[Jest]

Yay PS3's cuisine reigns supreme!


I'll get it if it doesn't suck. As long as the online play is good. I never played any other Arc games before but whatever.


Today I found a mall near my college that has a Tekken 3 machine!!!! I wish I knew about that two years ago when I started going X_X

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll be getting BlazBlu for the NA release... I pretty much make it a point to own most decent NA fighter releases.

though my wallet will be raped by DLC for Tekken 6 and I'll be happy about it.

[distgfx]

KoFXII and BlazBlue day one! - PS3

--------------------------------------------

A new glove for Jin - $4

ReRo: SOLD!

[Jest]

Did anyone ever get a FGT chat up and running again?

[RelentlessRolento]

A new glove for Jin - $4

ReRo: SOLD!

yep. that's exactly how it'd go.

I normally don't support such exploit of customers, but with Tekken I won't mind at all :bouncy:

if a FGT chat goes down, and I'm not around, someone PM me details of what went down.

[PhrostByte]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV6n3uqr6IU

http://$$$$$$/r4ZV

[MarkMan]

CAG FGT chat tonight... what is the medium... AIM?

MSN? IRC? What is it?

There's an IRC tutorial here:

http://sdtekken.com/contact/irc/

[SmallWind]

I vote for IRC.

[PhrostByte]

IRC is cool.. I have a chan on Undernet. :D

[Furashu]

how does KOF series play? is it similar to SF?
thanks for answering my question earlier.

[distgfx]

how does KOF series play? is it similar to SF?
thanks for answering my question earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r75Lz1Drp8g.

[MarkMan]

I vote for IRC.

Cool, everyone jump on efnet then.... I'll be in #cagfight

If I'm not replying it's because I'm away/shopping, I'll be home by 9 ish PST tho.

Use this guide... http://sdtekken.com/contact/irc/

I'll be talkin' bidnezz.

[MarkMan]

Sharing is caring....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeGpZ3z7js


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lQGnsXM3RA

[MarkMan]

Jest and I are on a date in #cagfight on irc (efnet servers)...

[RelentlessRolento]

using a differnt comp ATM so I'll be on in a bit after I dld.

[distgfx]

Yea... dunno the address to efnet's servers *hasn't used IRC in years*

EDIT: Ah, nvm

[Jest]

Super-easy join method if you use firefox.
1) Install ChatZilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16)
2) Type /server irc.servercentral.net (http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers&server_id=22)
3) Type /join #cagfight
4) ???
5) PROFIT!

[RelentlessRolento]

Well, I don't care too much about them, but I'm happy.

Actually everyone should be.

[RelentlessRolento]

Summary of the IRC tonight:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/SamHideoLopez/Random/Sentai/wuh2.jpg

[Furashu]

/spoilers rero falls off.

[RelentlessRolento]

my testicle is gone now

*disclaimer nothing happened... only said due to joking... srsly... >_<

[PhrostByte]

Why you should buy every (good) fighter that comes out this year, by Phrosty:

Ahem.. Why should you buy KOFX12 and BlazBlue? Good question fellow FGTers. I'll take a stab at it. Like the rest of the FGT, I grew up in America. That means hot dogs, apple pie, and Street Fighter, certainly not KOF or any wacky fighters like that. So, you might be saying to yourself.. Phrosty, why should I buy games that I have little interest in? Here's why:

The last real SF2 upgrade, Super Turbo.. was released in 1994. 15 years ago.
The last real SF3 upgrade, Third Strike.. was released in 1999. 10 years ago.
Street Fighter IV, the sequel to SF2, was released this year, 2009. It took 15 years to come out with a sequel.

What happened in those 15 years that resulted in such a long period without a sequel? That's debatable. Could have been black bears... One of the factors was the collapse of the American arcade industry.. another was having the original SF team disbanded, another was probably the global economic recession. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 2008-2009 is the return of the fighting game. All of these came/are coming out on XBox and PS3: Battle Fantasia, SF Remix, SFIV, SCIV, BlazBlue, KOFXII, Tekken 6, and probably others.

The time to show that you still care about fighters is now. Do it with your wallets people. Show those publishers that you care by putting food on their families tables.

[MarkMan]

We're all happy and lovey dovey in the CAG #cagfight chatroom ;)

[JEKKI]

omg I cant believe loltaku posted about Rose Ball.

like when I first saw the vid I thought omg I bet someone would totally email this to slowtaku and they'll post it coz they always post random crap.

but I didnt do it tho... then a freakin week later it shows up on there!!

and they dont even give propers to the original source either!! instead theyre like "hay we found this on sum guy's blog with an explaination of the rules"

man fukk slowtaku.

[Jimbo Slice]

can someone PM me what all went down in the CAG chat? I'm freakin still up (3 AM EST) doing schoolwork

[heavyd853]

We just made fun of you in your absence Jim.

[Furashu]

We just talked about the Hannah Montana Boxing Game thats all.


Time to start this Report!

[blitz6speed]

can someone PM me what all went down in the CAG chat? I'm freakin still up (3 AM EST) doing schoolwork

Markman dropped some major bombs about MEGATONS for E3, he also detailed the lineup of top fighting games you wouldnt even believe due out in 09 and 10, and he also mentioned the contents of the Blazblue LE in exact detail! He also sent out a free copy of it for everyone who was in the chat!!! Thanks markman!!

[Furashu]

whats this nonsense?

we talked about the new High School Musical Movie Game.

woo finished my paper....
thats a fighting game in itself.

student vs procrastination..

in the end i won.

[JEKKI]

dang I cant believe I missed out on the chat.

I was sooooooo busy yesterday... I couldnt get to bed until 1AM and came to work an hour late thanks to it and my boss got upset.

and I'm still real busy for today... no megatons for me :cry:

-EDIT-

I made my own megaton to make myself feel better:

http://www.k9magazine.com/pictures-of-dogs/d/2676-1/spider-pug.jpg

megalicious~!!

[MarkMan]

A few of us are on right now...

Work is gonna own me all day/night :(

So I'll be in and out...

[RelentlessRolento]

i'd get on chat now but too much stuff to do still at home... maybe later tonight.

[MarkMan]

^ aw its okay!

Everyone else... Jump In!

[RelentlessRolento]

k... let me try and get on right now.

[Furashu]

k... let me try and get on right now.
thats what she said...

[blitz6speed]

from the chat:

http://www.challenger.jp/mp4/tekken6br_20090207.html

[RelentlessRolento]

http://super.gameshot.net/tekkencentral/bbs/data/gallery/01_art.jpg

[gunm]

He's Korean?

[RelentlessRolento]

fixed:

http://super.gameshot.net/tekkencentral/bbs/data/gallery/NN.jpg

[gunm]

Korean doujin?

[RelentlessRolento]

gunm you need to join in on the chats

[gunm]

There's no chat now, though, is there?

[Jest]

Theres always a chat

[BlueSwim]

Update from Capcom.

Middle of May now all preorders should be fulfilled. There are over 800 orders waiting. MC only sent them 20 sticks end of March shipment. Retailers have higher priority over Capcom.

I asked about if MC will include something special for waiting (per Capcom blog), but they didn't know.This is absolute bullshit! I'm fucking sick of waiting for this God damn thing.

[heavyd853]

Damn that blows blue.

[hankmecrankme]

This is absolute bullshit! I'm fucking sick of waiting for this God damn thing.

So fucking pissed that you didn't change your font color? ;) Yeah, that does suck ass though.

[BlueSwim]

Damn that blows blue.:( It really does. I ordered from them since I thought they would be getting restocked regularly since it's their freaking branding on the stick. GUESS NOT!!! :lol:
So fucking pissed that you didn't change your font color? ;) Yeah, that does suck ass though.
:lol::lol::lol: Nah, I'm letting it go. It had a nice run.

[kainzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJhiPWc3Wc

[greyzieoriental]

I ordered a SFIV TE stick from gamestop.com on 4/10/09 with free saver shipping. They had it up for maybe 15 mins before you couldn't add to cart (now they aren't even on the site). I wonder if they really have it in stock. I tried to order 2 but they canceled one of my orders saying "because of limited supplies it will be one per customer." Seems good enough. I will wait til 4/20 to see if they have shipped it yet.

I was thinking about returning my SFIV SE fightstick but if gamestop doesn't come through I'll have no stick at all. And waiting for lizardlick to try my 1st modding/swapping seems like it'll take til the end of the year for them to ship me anything. That's if I can even put in an order in the next week or so, whenever they open again.

[Furashu]

rise!!

[asianxcore]

Probably just me but the line that says "Retailers have higher priority over Capcom" made me laugh.

Just sounds silly

[MarkMan]

Sounds silly, but it isn't... haha ;)

[heavyd853]

Damn, I just played marvel for like 6 straight hours.


I won like 7 matches -_-

[gigan54]

any stick modders out there?

so i bought this stick (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0015PHMFU/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1239907005&sr=1-2&condition=new) with the hopes of modding it with some sanwa parts.


I was leaning towards some obsf-30 buttons (not sure on the color scheme yet). and i was thinking of using a JLF-TP-8YT-SK 8 way joystick.

so what I really want are suggestions. I don't care too much for the aesthetics of the stick, I just want it to be sturdy, reliable, and responsive.

also, does anybody know of anybody in so cal who's selling parts? lizard lick is still down and I want to get started on this side project ASAP

[Jest]

Can't say I'v ever modded a mayflash, or read anything about it. I think there is a guide on SRK for doing it though. Check out the SRK buy/sell/trade thread for guys selling parts too.

[akilshohen]

http://www.shopto.net/XBOX%20360/HARDWARE/XB2MA11-Marvel%20vs%20Capcom%20Tournament%20Edition%20Arca de%20Stick.html
OH SHIT!!!

[Mr. Beef]

So I hear the FGT was wondering where I've been. Also, AxC tells me that Chac's been crying himself to sleep over my mysterious disappearance.

[option.iv]

Hey beef, long time no see.

I'm hosting STHDR (ps3) nights as usual tonight at 7PM PST/10 PM EST. I invite the FGT to join. The more the merrier.

[Mr. Beef]

Sure thing. I could use some practice, since I'm rusty as all hell.

[hankmecrankme]

What up, Beef?

Man, I need to play more HDR too. Been too lazy/busy.

[Mr. Beef]

Nuttin' much Hank. I was working on my backlog more than I was working on my fighters.

[hankmecrankme]

Not bad. I haven't been playing shit, just trying to save up for a car. Almost there, then I get to get raped by the state of Illinois.

$89 title transfer + $78 a year vehicle registration = Fuck you, Illinois. :bomb: I need to move.

I need to play some fighters this weekend.