Games you were Excited for that turn out to be Turds II

[Derrick1979]

Well the last thread like this I made was pretty active and fun to see what people were excited about and let down with.
Well seeing the old thread died I figured I would go ahead and make another one..
So with that said like the other one list a game or games you were excited about and turned out to be a pile :roll:.
So thanks to all the people who contibuted in the last thread, the only excpetion to this one is lets try to keep it with current gen systems and the PS2,PS3,and the DS nothing older.

So I will put one down for starters:

:360: Spectral Force 3 : Well I just got my 360 at the time and I was excited about the RPG's I missed and all the new ones coming out. Well with the thought of some solid SRPG's also interested me and the graphics did not matter to much and what was the biggest issue here was the gameplay..... enough said.

[Ryuukishi]

:ds: Heroes of Mana. The previews were mixed at best, but I really like the art style of the Mana games and I decided to take a chance on it and drop $40 when it was first released. It's agreeable enough for the first few missions, and the graphics and story are nice, but as it gets more difficult the broken pathfinding just sucks the fun right out. I wish I hadn't paid full price for such a fundamentally flawed game.

[Kendal]

Dead Rising. Man did that game piss me off. The bosses were cheap and the save system was terrible just to be terrible.

[bardockkun]

Assassin's Creed. Looked pretty, but...Well, did I mention it looked pretty?

[The Crotch]

Drakengard. Just... Drakengard. Man.

[deszaras]

Like many people before the second Matrix movie came out, I was caught up in the hype. I thought the game looked like it was really going to be good...boy was I wrong. I don't remember much from it except the tremendous amount of bugs and utter disappointment.

[Snake2715]

Resistance Fall of Man..

I got on the PS3 game somewhat late but picked this up last year when a local Comp USA was letting them go for like $20...

The people were just so stiff and plastic like. I played it for a few hours and just sold it off. I could not give it more time than that. I was really craving a shooter, but it just didnt do it for me...

The only thing I can think of is I had just finished Uncharted and maybe that ruined my expectations of "next gen" gaming. I know RFOM is a release title, but still....

[Jest]

Hellgate: London for sure. I preordered it for the lame dye, played the open beta for 15 minutes, went back to EB and canceled the pre-order.

[jkanownik]

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed

I wish it didn't exist. A great concept with frustrating controls makes for a worthless game.

[Liquid 2]

My answer in everyone of these threads: Dead Rising

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Spore.

[eswat]

Spore.This and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky. They patched the mother fucker how many times, and it's still so buggy that I can't leave the newbie area...

[darthbudge]

This and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky. They patched the mother fucker how many times, and it's still so buggy that I can't leave the newbie area...

Obviously it just hates you. I played through Clear Sky without running across maybe one or two minor game bugs.

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I think as far as disappointing games, I was extremely disappointed with The Force Unleashed.

[Moxio]

Mass Effect, Gears of War, KOTOR, Metroid Prime 1-3, all Battlefield games, Ikaruga, Geometry Wars, all Brothers in Arms, and so many more. :(

[crystalklear64]

mm.. don't think I've ever actually been disappointed with a game purchase.

[Dead of Knight]

Valkyrie Profile 2, Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, Grandia Xtreme, Shadow Hearts: From the New World, Lunar DS, FF12, Star Ocean 3

[Lorddraco07]

Lunar DS definitely had to be my choice. The first two Lunars were amazing and that one, a piece of crap.

[Moxio]

Valkyrie Profile 2, Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, Grandia Xtreme, Shadow Hearts: From the New World, Lunar DS, FF12, Star Ocean 3

Wasn't the only reason you didn't like FFXII because you couldn't get a Demonsbane? :lol:

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I totally forgot about FF12.

[magus83]

Zelda DS, and Burnout Paradise.

Zelda DS, focused to much on the stylus for gameplay, and all it did was annoy and frustrate me.

As for Burnout Paradise, I didn't care for the open ended gameplay much at all. Preferred the previous versions.

[Nephlabobo]

Assassin's Creed (possibly the worst game I've ever played)
Silent Hill Homecoming

[Moxio]

Assassin's Creed (possibly the worst game I've ever played)

That is so wrong and you KNOW it.

[lolwut?]

That is so wrong and you KNOW it.

Even though you listed Mass Effect, KOTOR, and a bunch of other awesome games, I have to say I agree.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

Assassin's Creed (possibly the worst game I've ever played)


You are lying and you know it. Ass Creed is not that great, but its not that bad.

[Rozz]

You are lying and you know it. Ass Creed is not that great, but its not that bad.

You don't know the entire history of games he's played. It may very well be the worst game he's played.

Anyway, I have to go with Dead Rising, Lunar Dragon Song, and Grand Theft Auto: IV.

[DarthPuma]

Bioshock.

[Nifty_Shark]

Perfect Dark Zero. Only time I got caught up in launch hype. Mario is Missing. That game just flat out sucked and that's a bad trick to play on a kid that thinks Mario games can't go wrong.

[Nephlabobo]

That is so wrong and you KNOW it.

No, it's not. And I mean it.

Ass's Creed was enough to make me swear off Ubisoft games entirely.

[Filler2001]

Mario Kart Wii....I got it when it was rare, got excited, then realized it wasn't even close to the goodness of the DS version.

[Rei no Otaku]

Dead Rising. Man did that game piss me off. The bosses were cheap and the save system was terrible just to be terrible.

My answer in everyone of these threads: Dead Rising
Yeah, my friend hyped the game so much and then when I actually played it I hated it.

[Jesus_S_Preston]

Dead Rising is awesome, you guys are all doo-doo heads.

[The Crotch]

Alternate title for threads like these: "Find out which CAGs you should never listen to."

[Jesus_S_Preston]

You're such a crotch.

[tangytangerine]

Star Trek: Conquest

I thought it'd be decent like ST: Encounters was. Bought it and a short & repetitive game. I guess that's what I get for a $20 PS2 game, but can't believe they were charging full price for the Wii version.

[heavyd853]

Alternate title for threads like these: "Find out which CAGs you should never listen to."

or "Hey, these guys have opinions about stuff!"

[epobirs]

Rear Guard by Adventure International

Obscure, I know. Multi-platform titles can be tricky today but things used to be far worse. There is an occasion severely bad port like the Orange Box on PS3 but for the most part things are fairly consistent or divergent platforms are given distinctly different versions of the game that don't pretend to be identical to the optimal platform.

Back when the assorted platforms were wildly different in functionality and review sites not a click away, it used to be far more difficult to make good choices. In his first Johnny Maxwell novel 'Only You Can Save Mankind' Terry Pratchett created a satirical ad for a game at the center of the plot. In the small print at the bottom it read: Screen shots are from version you didn't buy.

Way back when I'd only had my first gaming platform, an Atari 800, a few weeks, I saw an ad in a magazine for a game called Rear Guard. The originating version on the Apple ][ looked pretty good and the screen shot for the Atari version was less graphically appealing but appeared to be the same game. It really wasn't. The Apple version was a proper bit of machine code while the Atari was written in interpreted BASIC. It was rare that anyone had the nerve to sell such an item. BASIC games were usually the territory of type it in yourself magazine listings. Not only was it not the sort of thing one expected to pay for at retail, it also had no discernable gameplay. We could never figure out what constituted success in the game.

It isn't as if the bar was terribly high back then. Another game whose title I forget but I do recall it was from Broderbund, was a variant on Lunar Lander with a giant lizard that would eat your stranded astronaut if you landed in such a way to force him to take the wrong path. IT would barely count as a mini-game today but that was a satisfactory purchase for cassette in a Ziploc bag at $15.

I've had plenty of bad games since then but that was the first time I felt genuinely ripped off. That loss of innocence stays with you always.

[cochesecochese]

Wii OLOLOLOL

In all seriousness, I have to say Metroid Prime II. The backtracking and horrible menus were what finally made me start to lose faith in Nintendo and a big part of the reason I started playing non-Nintendo consoles. Rather pathetic, I know.

edit: Oh, and Phantom Hourglass. I can't believe that piece of crap got a Zelda name slapped onto it. Yeah yeah more bitter fanboy tears.

[Astinus Majere]

State of Emergency

[io]

:ds: Heroes of Mana. The previews were mixed at best, but I really like the art style of the Mana games and I decided to take a chance on it and drop $40 when it was first released. It's agreeable enough for the first few missions, and the graphics and story are nice, but as it gets more difficult the broken pathfinding just sucks the fun right out. I wish I hadn't paid full price for such a fundamentally flawed game.

Oh, man, hopefully I'll like it better - just picked up a mint used copy at GS with the cellfire coupon. At least it only cost me $17.49 in GS credit.

[Short Round]

The Wii version of The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess.


I picked my Wii up on launch day, along with Zelda, and I nearly bursting with excitement. I was young and precocious lad; my expectations were insurmountably high. I thought to myself "boy I'm going to be just like Link on one of his grand adventures; when I swing my arm, Link swings his sword--neato!"

I was wrong. Dead wrong. I soon realized that instead of being a reasonable facsimile of Link, I was a mere facsimile of a retard, and a bad one at that.

See also: Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime III, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, ect.

See also: lololololololol Nintendo.

[Pirate331]

Mass Effect, Gears of War, KOTOR, Metroid Prime 1-3, all Battlefield games, Ikaruga, Geometry Wars, all Brothers in Arms, and so many more. :(
What kind of games don't disappoint you? With Mass Effect, Gears, KoToR, and Metroid you've named some of the best in recent gaming. How in the world were these games disappointing? I guess if you don't enjoy solid play, graphics and story I could see your point...

ATTN Dead Rising haters: I'll admit the save system is a little frustrating at times, but I think it encourages strategy by having consequences for running in w/o a plan. If you can't get by that then you're doing it wrong; tell me slaughtering zombies w/ pretty much anything in sight isn't fun? Speaking of which, I still need to get the Genocider achievement...


As for my most disappointing game, I pick Starship Troopers (http://www.amazon.com/Starship-Troopers-Real-Time-Strategy-Game/dp/B00004RDUI/ref=dp_cp_ob_vg_title_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1224059316&sr=8-13). Apparently some people got it running well enough to play, but I tried it on a win98 machine, and several different XP machines and the graphical errors made it unplayable. I wanted it to work so badly too. :cry:

[Aleryn]

Gears of War
I grew up loving the Unreal series, and just about everything that Epic had made up til Gears.
Gears is... just something entirely different I have little to no interest in. I respect it for what it is, but meh... no thanks.

[Antic]

:wii: Victorious Boxer

[FloodsAreUponUS]

No, it's not. And I mean it.

Ass's Creed was enough to make me swear off Ubisoft games entirely.

Thats the weirdest thing I ever heard. Swearing off a publisher because of bad games? If you did that you wouldn't play anything?

[Antic]

Thats the weirdest thing I ever heard. Swearing off a publisher because of bad games? If you did that you wouldn't play anything?

I don't know. Southpeak is kind of on my avoid list ever since I bought Two Worlds on release day. Thank god I was able to unload it soon after for a minor loss. They also published Monster Madness.

[Snake2715]

:wii: Victorious Boxer

Good call here. That could have been so much better..

I will say though in the night I bought and beat the game i had one fight where everything I intended actually happened, every single move worked, and worked well.. That one fight is etched in me forever now. It was reall really fun. Too bad the remainder of the fights after that were not 1:1 control.

[Renaissance 2K]

Probably not the qualifier that you were all looking for, but...

:ps3: Warhawk

I was a huge, huge, huge fan of the original. When it turns out that the follow-up is essentially Halo without the shiny suits, it was like the eleven years of waiting was wasted time.

The fact that I can't control "complex" shooters with a gamepad doesn't help.

[Gameboy415]

Drakengard. Just... Drakengard. Man.

NO.


Drakengard is AMAZING, You just have to put in some work before it gets there.
Go back, play it again. Get all the weapons, power up your guy, and get all the endings.

You WON'T be disappointed.

[jdelrio22]

Age of Conan = oh boy that was money not well spent.

Perfect Dark (360 version) = really hyped and really disappointed

Two hyped games that did the fish thing and went belly up.

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I don't know. Southpeak is kind of on my avoid list ever since I bought Two Worlds on release day. Thank god I was able to unload it soon after for a minor loss. They also published Monster Madness.

That is because SouthPeak puts out nothing but trash. Every publisher puts out some kind of garbage, but to say you will swear them off its like video game racism.

[Antic]

That is because SouthPeak puts out nothing but trash. Every publisher puts out some kind of garbage, but to say you will swear them off its like video game racism.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do or that people should totally ignore a publisher. I'm just giving an example of a publisher for me that is close to that sort of ideal Nephlabobo has towards Ubisoft because of AC now. I disagree completely with him as well that Assassin's Creed was bad too.

Back to SouthPeak though...about the only game from that I could say hasn't been horrible has been Scourge: Hive for the GBA, but even that wasn't spectacular. Am I missing another title by them that was decent or better? You're agreeing though that SouthPeak is one you can most of the time overlook like that. I think you're taking it too far to say it's "racism".

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do or that people should totally ignore a publisher. I'm just giving an example of a publisher for me that is close to that sort of ideal Nephlabobo has towards Ubisoft because of AC now. I disagree completely with him as well that Assassin's Creed was bad too.

Back to SouthPeak though...about the only game from that I could say hasn't been horrible has been Scourge: Hive for the GBA, but even that wasn't spectacular. Am I missing another title by them that was decent or better? You're agreeing though that SouthPeak is one you can most of the time overlook like that. I think you're taking it too far to say it's "racism".

Yes I can overlook Southpeak for most of their games, but Ubisoft puts out some good games that you can't overlook. I mean there are some publishers that just put out trash like Southpeak and Destineer.

[GuilewasNK]

The only one I can think of at the moment is Tecmo NBA Basketball on the SNES. I figured Tecmo Superbowl was awesome on the NES so NBA had to be good. It was passable at best.

*edit*

Also, every Twisted Metal game after Twisted Metal 2.

[Nephlabobo]

Thats the weirdest thing I ever heard. Swearing off a publisher because of bad games? If you did that you wouldn't play anything?

Ass's Creed scarred me for life.

[CrimsonPaw]

I would have to say Spiderman 3. I preordered this thing and was psyched until after about 10 minutes of playing it and having to swing Mary Jane around the city to collect hearts .... what the fuck?!?! HEARTS!!!!!


Also, every Twisted Metal game after Twisted Metal 2.
Aw, c'mon, TM:Black was the shit.

[ToadallyAwesome]

It was mentioned before but the game that had a large effect on me was Star Ocean 3. I waited/anticipated playing this game for year or two. What a bummer.

Xenosaga was mildly disappointing. I had it hyped way too much in my head after gears but i still love the series.

While still fun, I was upset with Valkyrie Profile 2 after loving the first game to death. I Hope the new DS game will be decent.

EDIT forgot to mention wild arms 4 blah. At least WIld arms 5 made up for it.

[Draccius]

:pc:Master of Orion 3

:cry:

[GuilewasNK]

Aw, c'mon, TM:Black was the shit.


To be fair, I only had the online version which wasn't all that fun IMO.

[Renaissance 2K]

To be fair, I only had the online version which wasn't all that fun IMO.

Actually, I take back my response. Twisted Metal Black: Online was my biggest disappointment.

Nothing like waiting months to get the disc only to find four people online at any time; three of which were using AOL dial-up.

I'm sure it'd be fantastic if people actually played it. The single-player is unmatched.

[Rei no Otaku]

NO.


Drakengard is AMAZING, You just have to put in some work before it gets there.
Go back, play it again. Get all the weapons, power up your guy, and get all the endings.

You WON'T be disappointed.
Hell yeah. I love Drakengard. Too bad the second one sucked.

[H.Cornerstone]

Assassins Creed and Haze.

[The Crotch]

NO.


Drakengard is AMAZING, You just have to put in some work before it gets there.
Go back, play it again. Get all the weapons, power up your guy, and get all the endings.

You WON'T be disappointed.
Hmm. Maybe if I turn the sound off so I don't have to listen to that damn dragon.

...

And maybe if I turn off the TV so I don't see the miles of open space where there should be enemies/allies/you know, something.

...

And maybe if I just get back to No More Heroes on Bitter.

[Filler2001]

No More Heroes was fantastic ;)

[Sacsquash]

Soldier of Fortune: Payback

I was a huge fan of the Soldier of Fortune franchise, I still enjoy the first two games very much, but this last installment in the franchise was an utter and complete disappointment.

The Story/Campaign was ridiculous, AI was pretty un-rivaled when it comes to stupidity, and it's kinda sad when the one gimmick the game has going for it(shooting body parts off of people and ripping dead bodies apart with your gun/explosives) is the only thing going for it. Ofcourse everyone doesn't know until they've already purchased it. Fortunately I rented this game and only felt that a fraction of time was wasted in my life, I feel sorry for anyone that paid more than $20 for this abomination in the SOF Franchise.

[captmurphy]

:360: The Outfit.

I was a big fan of Relic's Homeworld games on the PC, so when I saw they were making a WWII action-strategy game for the 360, I was pretty stoked. Needless to say, it didn't meet my expectations.

[rainking187]

It was mentioned before but the game that had a large effect on me was Star Ocean 3. I waited/anticipated playing this game for year or two. What a bummer.


Yeah, Star Ocean 2 is still probably my favorite game ever, so I was pumped for this one. Then I played it. Uh...WTF? Star Ocean 4 "The Last Hope" is the most appropriate title EVER.

[Derrick1979]

One for sure I will say is "Chaos Wars" for the PS2......

I waited so long for a game that is more then a turd....

[VAD3R or Fro]

Super Smash Bros Brawl made me sell my Wii.

[smarkbran]

I would say recently I picked up Brothers In Arms and I'm a little dissapointed by the pop up and graphical glitches that make watching the overall great story almost unwatchable. I wish a little more time was put into the graphical engine, this doesnt make it a turd but it hindered my enjoyment thus far. NOW for a turd! I am going to say Kengo Legend of the 9. What a pile of crap! I enjoyed the Way of the Samurai and Bushido Blade series, but DAMN! This game had the depth of a flash game on the internet and was no comparison to games that came out in past console generations. I felt robbed of my money and time wasted by this craptastic game. Stay away from this game!

[Paco]

Gears of War
I grew up loving the Unreal series, and just about everything that Epic had made up til Gears.
Gears is... just something entirely different I have little to no interest in. I respect it for what it is, but meh... no thanks.

You forgot the part about Gears of War killing Unreal. How many years has it been since we seen a story based installment in the original unreal series?

[FloodsAreUponUS]

I would say recently I picked up Brothers In Arms and I'm a little dissapointed by the pop up and graphical glitches that make watching the overall great story almost unwatchable. I wish a little more time was put into the graphical engine, this doesnt make it a turd but it hindered my enjoyment thus far. NOW for a turd! I am going to say Kengo Legend of the 9. What a pile of crap! I enjoyed the Way of the Samurai and Bushido Blade series, but DAMN! This game had the depth of a flash game on the internet and was no comparison to games that came out in past console generations. I felt robbed of my money and time wasted by this craptastic game. Stay away from this game!

What console?

[Malik112099]

MGS4
Dead Rising
Dark Sector
Army Of Two
Ace Combat 6

[depascal22]

Asuka 120% Burning Fest. Limited...just because I wanted to throw it out there. I imported it from Japan and hated it. It felt like a NES fighting game for the Saturn.

For recent games, I'll say Odin Sphere. It's got great graphics but that's the only thing I liked about it.

I'll also throw out Iron Phoenix. It had the potential to be great but they screwed it up. Also, people spamming the same moves over and over made it get old fast.

[smarkbran]

What console?

360

[b3b0p]

Zelda Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine are definitely turds.

[thelonepig]

The World Ends With You. It's not at all what I was expecting, especially after all the hype. Story was good, but felt a lot like the Bleach anime and honestly, the battle system just isn't all that fun.

[Rozz]

Zelda Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine are definitely turds.

Mario Sunshine is the only 3D Mario that I couldn't play all the way through.

[GuardianE]

Ninja Gaiden 2. I wouldn't call it a turd, but my expectations were so much higher than the broken mess that was delivered. After beating it, I just popped in Ninja Gaiden Black instead.

[kube00]

The Force Unleashed for ps2

[Rodimus]

Suikoden IV
Spider-Man 3

[Bucknut]

Turok for the 360.

I loved playing that game on the n64, was one of my favorite. All the articles and things i heard about made it seem amazing, I bought it day one. I think I may have played it a total of 3 hours since I got it.

[cochesecochese]

Bump again for Dead Rising. Lots of cool ideas but the AI is absolutely atrocious.

[Derrick1979]

Bump again for Dead Rising. Lots of cool ideas but the AI is absolutely atrocious.

Wow this is the first time I heard something about the AI in this game... I figured they were pretty good, give them a break they are zombies with a one track mind.. Eat PEople lol...

[Rei no Otaku]

Wow this is the first time I heard something about the AI in this game... I figured they were pretty good, give them a break they are zombies with a one track mind.. Eat PEople lol...
He probably means the AI of the survivors, which was pretty horrid.

[Derrick1979]

He probably means the AI of the survivors, which was pretty horrid.

Well then I can agree, other then that on a defense note on the survivors in a movie standpoint when are they ever smart? Haha...

Heres another TURD I recently though of and even though it is still playable its basically the developers decisions that put it in this catagory for me:

All the decisions made with the release and then in turn the companies response to the people that complained about the issues, thats right NISA this Turd's for you and the nominee is

Rhapsody:A Musical Adventure DS

Like I said the game is still plenty playable its just the glitches and the decisions to shaft the US consumer that make this a let down for fans of the company..

[necrojustice]

Spore disappointed me. I know the Space stage is supposed to be great but damnit I just can't will myself to get there.

I just finished MGS4 and at times I just wished I could play it and not watch it.

[cochesecochese]

He probably means the AI of the survivors, which was pretty horrid.

Yes, I mean the AI of the survivors. I clear a path and tell a survivor to follow me. What do they do? Either stand still or swerve off the side right into the fucking crowd of zombies. For now I'm just rescuing what I can and anything I miss will just have to wait for subsequent playthroughs. I have the patience to do a single 'saint' playthrough when I am maxed out at level 50.

[KingofOldSchool]

No More Heroes, more like No More ZEROS.

See what I did there?

[hostyl1]

I dont know how much this really qualifies but Kameo: Elements of Power was somewhat of a downer. Admittedly, this was one of the few platform exclusive games that I *really* want to play. I still enjoyed the game, but I think it's because I only paid 7 bucks for it. The controls were sloppy and that can just ruin a platformer. I loved the art style but all in all, while a nice diversion, I cant say it was a good game.

Also, I wasnt too fond of Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk Room 215. Both had decent storylines, but as *games* I thought they were lacking. I hated that you couldnt add items to your inventory until you triggered a need for them. That caused some frustrating backtracking. And while some would call the puzzles that used *all* of the DS functions (TM = Ink stamp, HD=CPR) innovative, I would just call them esoteric. Those were thinking a little *too* outside the box for me. Honestly, I think I would have rather experienced their stories as novels rather than games.

[Malik112099]

SOCOM: Confrontation

I am sooo pissed about the shit quality of this game....just all around unfinished..they should have pushed the date till it was polished...I traded it in today and got Dead Space

[option.iv]

Smash Brawl still carries that scent of poo whenever I try to play it. Definitely disappointed.

[torifile]

Honestly, Mass Effect. I was super excited about the game, all the reviews raved and it was unplayable because of frame rate problems. Maybe it was my 360 - it did die eventually - but any combat scenes were next to impossible because of the frame rate issues. I was sorely disappointed.

Now, this isn't to say that it wasn't a great game, just that I was really disappointed.

[Filler2001]

SOCOM: Confrontation

I am sooo pissed about the shit quality of this game....just all around unfinished..they should have pushed the date till it was polished...I traded it in today and got Dead Space
TIC?

[camoor]

Kessen 3

Kessen 2 was alot of fun with alot of strategy, different environments, and story-based gameplay elements (like magic abilities and unique mission-based events).

Kessen 3 traded this all in for a more realistic setting and a real-time action feel mixed up with RPG elements. Except the menus were among the clunkiest I've ever dealt with, the capabilities of the units were unintuitive and unbalanced, and the timing elements sucked alot of fun out of the title for me. I hated how the game forced you to be a harried micromanager instead of the powerful imperial commander I wanted to be.

[camoor]

Onimusha 3. For some reason I lost all interest in this title once they made this half-assed attempt to westernize it. Why am I fighthing Japanese demons in Paris? Couldn't I, I don't know, fight some European demons while I'm here. And what's up with the whip - can't we give the Frenchy something more appropriate like a ancient European sword or a musket? The goofy plot, ridiculous setting and stupid whip character just killed it for me.

Onimusha 1 and 2 were beautiful games - 1 was a great warrior epic and 2 was a great expansion on this with the 5 unique characters with different stories that you got a chance to play. These two games were immersive and the setting fit, and the plot while somewhat derivative never distracted from the other parts that just worked so well. I also still think Onimusha 2 has the best opening of any game I've ever seen (skip to 5:35 for the good stuff):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4kEdRT-ns&feature=related

[Rei no Otaku]

Kessen 3

Kessen 2 was alot of fun with alot of strategy, different environments, and story-based gameplay elements (like magic abilities and unique mission-based events).

Kessen 3 traded this all in for a more realistic setting and a real-time action feel mixed up with RPG elements. Except the menus were among the clunkiest I've ever dealt with, the capabilities of the units were unintuitive and unbalanced, and the timing elements sucked alot of fun out of the title for me. I hated how the game forced you to be a harried micromanager instead of the powerful imperial commander I wanted to be.
Kessen 3's story was so much better though. One of the few times Nobunaga is portrayed as something other than the "Demon King."

[Malik112099]

TIC?


i traded it and haze and got $33ish for them both....extra $10 on 2 ps3 games plus 10% edge and Haze's trade value is $7..you do the math on socom

[Filler2001]

33-10-7(.1)-7=SOCOM with edge
23-.70-7
16-.70
15.30 = with edge

15.30-[15.30(.10)]
15.30-1.53
13.77 without edge

15.30-[15.30(.20)]
15.30-3.06
12.24 with cash

So, I suppose if you got the bundle, you would, in a way, be getting a discounted headset, although you could probably get close to 20-25 here though cash, so there isnt really a need to bother.

[palaeomerus]

Chiefly Blood II and Pariah

[Toolus]

No More Heroes and Bioshock. So much potential, so much hype on the part of both of them and so much disappointment.

[davo1224]

Rare bringing Conker and PD over to XBox. Hopefully Banjo doesn't suck.

[camoor]

Kessen 3's story was so much better though. One of the few times Nobunaga is portrayed as something other than the "Demon King."

Yeah - the story did seem interesting but I found the unit management to be tedious and the final straw was the horrible equipment screens - I just realized I wasn't having any fun.

[davo1224]

Really disappointed about StarFox Adventures and Rayman 3.