red alert3 or tiberium wars

[thisjustanother]

i just got a new upgraded pc and was considering a new rts game, i bought company of heroes, and the expansion, the game is ok, but not my cup of tea, i still play it on occasion, but not all the time.

anyways, i was just wondering with red alert coming out, do i go for that or is tiberium wars, and its expansion better to get. how is the community for the games and how many people are still playing/going to play each one.

[ITDEFX]

If this doesn't make up your mind then I don't know what will

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41217.html

both games are very solid. I would get both if I were you.

[Oktoberfest]

i just got a new upgraded pc and was considering a new rts game, i bought company of heroes, and the expansion, the game is ok, but not my cup of tea, i still play it on occasion, but not all the time.

anyways, i was just wondering with red alert coming out, do i go for that or is tiberium wars, and its expansion better to get. how is the community for the games and how many people are still playing/going to play each one.
Red Alert 3 is not out yet so it's hard to answer

[LinkinPrime]

Tiberium is awesome...I'm sure Red Alert 3 will be even better...if you enjoy the franchise and care about saving money, start with Tiberium, by the time you're done with it there should be a good drop in price for Red Alert 3.

[captainfrizo]

For me the decision comes down to this:

Red Alert 3 = DRM/Securom
Tiberium Wars & Kane's Wrath expansion = no DRM/Securom

I don't think any company should be able to put a set limit on installs of a game (spare me the "but you can uninstall and it may or may not count against the limit but there's no guarantees" argument) or put software on your computer that reports activities regarding the game and Lord knows what else back to EA and prevents you from installing the game if you don't accept said software. It's all done in an attempt to prevent used sales and also crack down on piracy, even though it's allegedly having the exact opposite effect if Spore is any indication.

Go with Tiberium first in hopes that EA gets rid of their ridiculous DRM on Red Alert 3 after a while.

And Tiberium is an awesome game. I still play it and the Kane's Wrath expansion on a regular basis.

[ITDEFX]

For me the decision comes down to this:

Red Alert 3 = DRM/Securom
Tiberium Wars & Kane's Wrath expansion = no DRM/Securom

I don't think any company should be able to put a set limit on installs of a game (spare me the "but you can uninstall and it may or may not count against the limit but there's no guarantees" argument) or put software on your computer that reports activities regarding the game and Lord knows what else back to EA and prevents you from installing the game if you don't accept said software. It's all done in an attempt to prevent used sales and also crack down on piracy, even though it's allegedly having the exact opposite effect if Spore is any indication.

Go with Tiberium first in hopes that EA gets rid of their ridiculous DRM on Red Alert 3 after a while.

And Tiberium is an awesome game. I still play it and the Kane's Wrath expansion on a regular basis.

CNC3 HAS a DRM on it!

DRM is how things will go from now on with anything released by EA.
Anyways just buy both games, you WILL ENJOY THEM!

[captainfrizo]

CNC3 HAS a DRM on it!


This is the first I've heard of that. As many times as I've installed my copies on my computers before and after reformating I think I would have run across the DRM barrier sometime, and I haven't. A quick check on Google doesn't come back any results for DRM and C&C 3 either (they're all tied to Red Alert 3).

Now I'm genuinely curious, where did you hear about C&C 3 having DRM?

[zionoverfire]

For me the decision comes down to this:

Red Alert 3 = DRM/Securom
Tiberium Wars & Kane's Wrath expansion = no DRM/Securom

I don't think any company should be able to put a set limit on installs of a game (spare me the "but you can uninstall and it may or may not count against the limit but there's no guarantees" argument) or put software on your computer that reports activities regarding the game and Lord knows what else back to EA and prevents you from installing the game if you don't accept said software. It's all done in an attempt to prevent used sales and also crack down on piracy, even though it's allegedly having the exact opposite effect if Spore is any indication.

Go with Tiberium first in hopes that EA gets rid of their ridiculous DRM on Red Alert 3 after a while.

And Tiberium is an awesome game. I still play it and the Kane's Wrath expansion on a regular basis.

Which is why I'm personally avoiding RE3 despite my great love of the series. I've loaded RE1,2 as well as half a dozen other games on my computers more than 5 times and will be especially annoyed when 4 years in the future when they can't even sell RE3 for $5 anymore I'll be forced to hunt down another copy simply because I've used my 5 installs.

Fuck you EA!

[Serik]

Yeah, it's really a shame. I've been playing C&C since the beginning, but won't be purchasing any more EA games as long as they're riddled with SecuROM and install limits.

Or I could just leave it in the shrinkwrap and pirate a copy.

So ya, fuck EA

[ITDEFX]

I am not trying to defend EA or SR but how many times do you install a game on your system before the next upgrade? Once or twice?
The only thing that bothers me about SR or any other disc protection software is the damn rootkits and other crap that is INSTALLED in the background that eventually leads to system slow downs and problems with the drive itself.

[Serik]

Mostly agreed. I still detest the idea of keeping track of installs because it's so utterly pointless. (It's even worse when they have install limits for third-party Steam games! See X3 and Crysis Warhead.)

I buy games, not third-party rootkits made by the idiots at Sony.

[ITDEFX]

Mostly agreed. I still detest the idea of keeping track of installs because it's so utterly pointless. (It's even worse when they have install limits for third-party Steam games! See X3 and Crysis Warhead.)

I buy games, not third-party rootkits made by the idiots at Sony.

Well hate to say it but Rootkits are on music cd's these days as well :(

Developers need to shut the fuck up and stop making excuses about not making games for the PC because of piracy. No generation of home gaming system is safe from piracy.

Anyways I plan on keeping RA3 on my system and play the hell out of it even when the new expansion comes out (you know there will be one!).
The only time I will get rid of it is when I am really bored of it then i will take it off, but given the fact that I have 1.6 TB of storage now, I don't think it matters anymore :-P

[captainfrizo]

I am not trying to defend EA or SR but how many times do you install a game on your system before the next upgrade? Once or twice?
The only thing that bothers me about SR or any other disc protection software is the damn rootkits and other crap that is INSTALLED in the background that eventually leads to system slow downs and problems with the drive itself.

Valid points, but I still shouldn't have to install another application in the background that both effects system performance and has the ability to prevent programs (games or otherwise) from working because it's detected "suspicious" activities.

With regards to the install limit, there's already been reports with Spore and Crysis: Warhead of people installing the game once and then EA's DRM locking them out of the game after a reboot for allegedly running out of installs. Responses from EA's customer service department are ranging from a few days to over a week to get those issues resolved as well. What's better than paying $50 on a game that you install once and then refuses to allow you to play it, and then waiting another few days (at least) to get a response for the game developer/publisher to hopefully allow you to play it?

So, not only is it bad enough you have software that is required to run in the background and spies on your PC activities, the DRM still may leave you in the cold because EA can't even get that figured out correctly.

Not to mention this is the beginning of a slippery slope. If consumers allow things like this how long until someone comes up with the bright idea and tries to pull off requiring all Blu-Rays and DVD's to be registered online to a specific disc player's MAC address to work, locking that disc to that player? Will that ever occur? I sure hope not, but don't think other companies aren't keeping tabs on EA's progress and public backlash to see if they want to try something similar one day.

I love Command and Conquer, I truly do. RA 3 is one of my most anticipated releases all year, but I won't be buying it thanks to EA and their wonderful DRM and Securom (which a company exec even said sucks, but they won't be removing anytime soon). The same thing is preventing me from purchasing Crysis: Warhead and also prevented me from ordering Spore and its guide from Amazon today. It's a shame.

[ITDEFX]

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Not to mention this is the beginning of a slippery slope. If consumers allow things like this how long until someone comes up with the bright idea and tries to pull off requiring all Blu-Rays and DVD's to be registered online to a specific disc player's MAC address to work, locking that disc to that player? Will that ever occur? I sure hope not, but don't think other companies aren't keeping tabs on EA's progress and public backlash to see if they want to try something similar one day.
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I agree with you here. However if they come up with some stupid idea like that it will most be the final nail in the coffin for BR. Take for example Blockbuster and Netflix, two of the biggest giants in the rental industry. If this were to happen, both company's would be forced to drop BR from their selections because no one will be able to rent titles because of that idea. Blockbuster has some big muscle behind it and if they say NO to this idea, Sony will back down.