BIOSHOCK 2 - Gen. Discussion & Info - Pushed to 2010

[Sofa King Kool]

Just stumbled across this, any info?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzf18bZCPCI
http://kotaku.com/5064363/is-this-the-first-bioshock-2-trailer

[slickkill77]

Looks legit, but doesnt really do much for me.

[lordwow]

Looks nice.

[SynGamer]

I want it.

[LinkinPrime]

Yes!!!!!!

[captmurphy]

"Sea of Dreams" sounds like a DVD Barbie release subtitle.

[eswat]

any info?Sackboys are taking over the world?

[Tha Xecutioner]

I thought Bioshock 2 was supposed to be a prequel? The little sister in that teaser is all grown up.

[Sofa King Kool]

I thought Bioshock 2 was supposed to be a prequel? The little sister in that teaser is all grown up.


I'm pretty sure it's a confirmed sequel, so, yeah, I don't really understand the grown up sister either. We'll just have to wait and see I guess...

[LinkinPrime]

Maybe she's the first...the mom :shock:

[smoger]

isnt it safe to assume that the little sisters in the game weren't the only little sisters to ever exist? they're one generation of them, but there would also be previous generations that had grown up already prior to the events of Bioshock

[KingBroly]

So Bioshock 2 is going to star the girl from Mirror's Edge, but in a dress?

[eswat]

So Bioshock 2 is going to star the girl from Mirror's Edge, but in a dress?Free-swimming over the rooftops of Rapture...

[wcraigw]

Can't say I can get excited over a trailer that shows me....nothing. A girl standing on a beach holding a doll and sand moving and forming shapes. I look forward to a Bioshock 2 but I wish they would have put out a better trailer, one that actually gets you excited for the game even if it's a long way off.

[KingBroly]

So...why was this thread moved? Man, so many threads on CAG get moved when they shouldn't be, or at least, not to the right section. Since Bioshock 2's going to be multiplatform (why advertise it on PS3 if it isn't coming to PS3?) it should be in GGT, not 360. Seriously.

[darthbudge]

While that is still pretty cool, it doesn't really show us anything new except for a crappy subtitle.

Still though, I can't wait for Bioshock 2.

[fart_bubble]

its a teaser trailer, what did you guys expect to see?

[eswat]

its a teaser trailer, what did you guys expect to see?Ken Levine looking pensive.

[mykevermin]

So...why was this thread moved? Man, so many threads on CAG get moved when they shouldn't be, or at least, not to the right section. Since Bioshock 2's going to be multiplatform (why advertise it on PS3 if it isn't coming to PS3?) it should be in GGT, not 360. Seriously.

It's cool, man. Take something from the PS3 version and show it in the 360 thread.

That makes perfect sense.

Sister's all growed up, it would appear.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Can't say I can get excited over a trailer that shows me....nothing. A girl standing on a beach holding a doll and sand moving and forming shapes. I look forward to a Bioshock 2 but I wish they would have put out a better trailer, one that actually gets you excited for the game even if it's a long way off.

The doll is a Big Daddy if that does anything for you.

[LinkinPrime]

Viral site up:

http://www.bob.com.sg/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5593&d=1236486492

http://somethinginthesea.com/

:whee:

Not much info on the site, but it's pretty cool...reports of people seeing a red light underwater...girls aged 5-7 being kidnapped...strange footprints found on the beach.

Man, that site alone got me all hyped up...this is sick!

[johnnyrocker360]

hmm interesting website. can't wait for the game!

[DCriminal]

Aprils Game Informer is going to have an article about Bioshock2. You can view the (awesome) cover here: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200903/N09.0310.1603.49470.htm

[Corvin]

Hmmm... skinny anorexic 'little daddy' and a 'big sister.' :( Oh Ken Levine, where are you?

[Ink.So.Well.]

Viral site up:

http://www.bob.com.sg/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5593&d=1236486492

http://somethinginthesea.com/

:whee:

Not much info on the site, but it's pretty cool...reports of people seeing a red light underwater...girls aged 5-7 being kidnapped...strange footprints found on the beach.

Man, that site alone got me all hyped up...this is sick!

Consider me OFFICIALLY HYPPPPPPPEEEEEDDDDDD!

This will finally give me the focus and motivation to finish the first game. I was in the middle of infiltrating Ryan's offices while finishing my research and planning on starting a new game for the bad ending soon after that, but got sidetracked by the rest of my library.

Certainly one of the SCARIEST games I've played in a long damn time. I actually had to give myself a pat on the back for continuing through it, haha.

I can't wait for the April edition of GI though something tells me the release date will be slated for next year ala Mass Effect 2. ;(

[ninjaspeedrazor]

Can't wait, loved the first one. Hope that they keep the same atmosphere as the first one.

[DCriminal]

So... people are posting the details of the article along with various thoughts/musings on the subject of Bioshock2 on the 2K forums. For those adverse to any spoilers, I will just link to the thread (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30111). It sounds rather interesting.

[xeno]

So... people are posting the details of the article along with various thoughts/musings on the subject of Bioshock2 on the 2K forums. For those adverse to any spoilers, I will just link to the thread (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30111). It sounds rather interesting.

it sounds awsome, cant wait.

[SynGamer]

This is going to be very hit or miss, mainly the story will need to be stellar if this wants to succeed. I'm already skeptical about the 'Big Sister'...i can see the story behind this but we'll see.

[thehuskerfan]

So far all the rumors are said to be fasle?

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=408410&postcount=146

Who knows? I don't think it could get any better than the first BioShock.

[Raconteur]

I hope it's at least as good as.
Being done by a different team could mean anything.

[sendme]

is it going to be 360 only or is it coming to the PC also.

[SynGamer]

Bioshock 2 scans...http://www.lusogamer.com/news/436/BioShock-2

[Raconteur]

Oh no...
the rumors are true...you ARE a big daddy. -_-

[slickkill77]

I almost wish they weren't making this. Hopefully it is great like the first one, but something tells me this is going to be a massive let down.

[Megalith]

As expected---worthless.

[ninjaspeedrazor]

Not really thrilled with the prospect of playing as a Big Daddy, part of the creepiness of the first one was that you played as an outsider who didn't belong initially.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47806.html

First footage of the game from tonight's GTTV.

[LinkinPrime]

OMG! OMG! OMG!!!! :whee:

That was absolutely beautiful, I can't believe it looks better than the first.

[KingBroly]

Someone care to explain to me why, as a Big Daddy, you move so damn fast?

That video makes the game look really uninspired if you ask me.

[bardockkun]

I Don't know. Kinda want to see or hear more. Loved Bioshock 1 and thought it lived up to the hype (despite the Little Sisters looking creepy as shit and had no remorse in killing them), but this looks more like Bioshock 1.5 then it does a full on sequel. Oh well, I'll still get it probably.

[DarkNessBear]

Someone care to explain to me why, as a Big Daddy, you move so damn fast?

That video makes the game look really uninspired if you ask me.
Oh, I thought you played as a Big Sister?

The game looks great - everyone was freaken out so I assumed it was going to look radically different from the 1st one, but it seems like much more of the same greatness.

Can't wait. Even my GF was excited and she rarely gets excited over game reveals.

[heavyd853]

You play as the original big daddy or something, who is skinny and can shoot guns and stuff (or something).

He's basically just stolen concept art from the first bioshock on alternate big Daddies, which seems pretty lame to me.

I'm going to wait and see how it pans out, but my hopes aren't too high (although the gameplay video was somewhat convincing).

[mykevermin]

OMG! OMG! OMG!!!! :whee:

That was absolutely beautiful, I can't believe it looks better than the first.

Oh, pish-posh. It looks the same, dude. It looks good, but it looks the same.

My reaction watching the clip was "huh, given how amazing and unique the aesthetic of the first game was, now that I'm seeing the sequel in action for the first time, I'm surprised how unimpressed I am with this footage. It looks recycled.

Then the big sister (?) knocked the windows in.

:shock:

woah!

Someone care to explain to me why, as a Big Daddy, you move so damn fast?

I'm going to go with "so it doesn't suck."

[guyver2077]

it looks good.. i dont expect insanely improved visuals since i doubt they modified the original engine much...

i never did beat part 1. this should look beautiful on pc

[darthbudge]

While the graphics and gameplay did look good, I am not worried about those things.

The main thing that I am worried about is the story. Honestly, if Bioshock didn't have it's awesome story, I never would have finished it. The gameplay and graphics were cool, but got boring quickly. However, the story was absolutely awesome, and was what kept me going.

Well the man who was responsible for most of the great story aspects was Ken Levine, and with him not working on this I am just not sure if 2K Marin can pull it off.

[javeryh]

Looks like more of the same... which I guess is a good thing since Bioshock is one of my favorite games ever.

[klwillis45]

Looks like more of the same... which I guess is a good thing since Bioshock is one of my favorite games ever. This.

[mykevermin]

Well the man who was responsible for most of the great story aspects was Ken Levine, and with him not working on this I am just not sure if 2K Marin can pull it off.

Apples and not-quite-apples, my man.

The narrative of the first game came from scratch. The second one has a deep framework and narrative. It's more confined, so there's less room to expand - but that also means less room to fuck shit up.

It's like this: John Gardner wrote some decent fiction books in the James Bond universe. But I doubt he could have created Bond. That could only have come from Ian Fleming.

[Ink.So.Well.]

That video makes the game look really uninspired if you ask me.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Nonetheless I will still check it out on release day and hope for the best/half decent experience. ;\

[Razzuel]

The game looks decent; I surmise that it will probably be at least as good as the first game. However, the part where the Big Sister knocked the windows in was cool, but then the whole place filled with water, which was even more awesome! The visuals of being underwater looked really convincing.

[gareman]

Looks like more of the same... which I guess is a good thing since Bioshock is one of my favorite games ever.

Agreed. Since this a sequel to a very engaging and original game, then I tend to give games like that a pass on the next sequel as far as huge innovations go.

[Sofa King Kool]

Anyone else not really digging the idea of playing as a Big Daddy?

Btw, Mods feel free to hijack the OP. I didn't think this would turn into a Gen. Discussion thread, and I really had no intentions of constantly updating...

[gunm]

I wasn't too keen on it at first, but seeing it in action changed my mind. And this is from someone who got sick of the first game pretty quickly.

I think 2 looks pretty cool! Although I wish I hadn't seen some the more spoiler-ish stuff in the first part of the video. :p

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47819.html

GameTrailers has a pop-up video version of the gameplay trailer to point out stuff you might have missed and explain some things further.

[PhrostByte]

Looks awesome, can't wait! I love creative FPSs with good stories.. not too many around.

[naiku]

Anyone else not really digging the idea of playing as a Big Daddy?


Yeah I dont think it is a smart choice. You being a guy off a plane is way better then being a Big Daddy. When you play as a big daddy in the first game is cool because you acquire the pieces and use it for a limited time. the appeal of being a big daddy will wear off quickly if you are that character 24/7. Rather be that random guy off the street who gets in a shit-storm and needs to find his way out.

It looks interesting but if the story isn't as good as the first, its definitely a rental.

[A Happy Panda]

While the graphics and gameplay did look good, I am not worried about those things.

The main thing that I am worried about is the story. Honestly, if Bioshock didn't have it's awesome story, I never would have finished it. The gameplay and graphics were cool, but got boring quickly. However, the story was absolutely awesome, and was what kept me going.

Well the man who was responsible for most of the great story aspects was Ken Levine, and with him not working on this I am just not sure if 2K Marin can pull it off.

I forget who was with me in the original Bioshock thread but...

I forget the story exactly so bare with me: The story of Bioshock is absolutely retarded if you sit down and think about it. You're born as a child, somehow trained to do exactly what Fontaine wants you to do through a command that he taught you to respond to as a child. Let's say...20 odd years later, you board a small aircraft with a gun, he asks kindly would you takeover the plane and crash it into the Atlantic Ocean into this exact spot and hopefully live through the crash then swim to the entrance of Rapture. He goes through all this effort to bring you back to Rapture to kill Andrew Ryan when at the end of the game, all Fontaine does is pump himself full of ADAM and proves that he could've saved himself 20 years of planning and do it himself.

Also, I can't remember, but maybe someone can elighten me, do they ever explain WTF Little Sisters turn into slugs?

Don't get me wrong. I loved Bioshock. I loved the gameplay though. Not the story. For me at least, stories in games are always whatever. It's how the game plays than what unfolds within the game (Gears of War 2, L4D, COD4 are prime examples, the stories really don't matter in any of those games)

[mykevermin]

:rofl:

[A Happy Panda]

:rofl:

Not sure if you're laughing at me or with me, but either way is fine. I realize I've completely ignored the whole thing about the idea of a linear narrative and how players of video games don't really have choice, and the idea of "choice" in a video game simply leads a player to a slightly different linear path. But I found that whole thing contrived because well, Bioshock was itself a linear experience, which I realize was part of its design to help get their original point across, but thing is...players don't care and still don't care if they're being driven down a specified path or not. If the game play is fun, people will play it. Story in video games to me is like sprinkles and a cherry on top. Not only is the game/ice cream delicious, but its got story/sprinkles and a cheery to boot.

Again, if you say yes to a choice, you go down one path towards more linearity, you say no, you go down another.

But I digress. I'm not looking to get into a philosophical discussion regarding the design of videogames. I just wanted to boil Bioshock's story down to its core and how absurd it is.

[mykevermin]

it was the latter, hombre.

[A Happy Panda]

Guess I didn't need to spend all that time talking about the other story aspect of Bioshock. fail.

Oh well. I'm kind of curious to see how they explain that you play as the first Big Daddy...but 10 years later.

"Uhh...he was really really really tired"

[Magus8472]

I forget who was with me in the original Bioshock thread but...

I forget the story exactly so bare with me: The story of Bioshock is absolutely retarded if you sit down and think about it. You're born as a child, somehow trained to do exactly what Fontaine wants you to do through a command that he taught you to respond to as a child. Let's say...20 odd years later, you board a small aircraft with a gun, he asks kindly would you takeover the plane and crash it into the Atlantic Ocean into this exact spot and hopefully live through the crash then swim to the entrance of Rapture. He goes through all this effort to bring you back to Rapture to kill Andrew Ryan when at the end of the game, all Fontaine does is pump himself full of ADAM and proves that he could've saved himself 20 years of planning and do it himself.

You may be on to something. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosRoulette)

EDIT: Oh, and just to add a bit to the ridiculousness parade: It's not "20 odd" years later. It's 2 years later.

[Reality's Fringe]

I forget who was with me in the original Bioshock thread but...

I forget the story exactly so bare with me: The story of Bioshock is absolutely retarded if you sit down and think about it. You're born as a child, somehow trained to do exactly what Fontaine wants you to do through a command that he taught you to respond to as a child. Let's say...20 odd years later, you board a small aircraft with a gun, he asks kindly would you takeover the plane and crash it into the Atlantic Ocean into this exact spot and hopefully live through the crash then swim to the entrance of Rapture. He goes through all this effort to bring you back to Rapture to kill Andrew Ryan when at the end of the game, all Fontaine does is pump himself full of ADAM and proves that he could've saved himself 20 years of planning and do it himself.

Also, I can't remember, but maybe someone can elighten me, do they ever explain WTF Little Sisters turn into slugs?

Don't get me wrong. I loved Bioshock. I loved the gameplay though. Not the story. For me at least, stories in games are always whatever. It's how the game plays than what unfolds within the game (Gears of War 2, L4D, COD4 are prime examples, the stories really don't matter in any of those games)

You were born as a child, but you were one of Suchong's experiments using the Adam to accelerate growth. If you remember some of the audio logs, they spoke of an experiment that had a child of only a few months old physically at the age of a 19 year old (or something similar) . Fontaine used the main character, because he was Ryan's son; harvested from the stripper he got pregnant. Fontaine sent you out only a few MONTHS before the events in Bioshock, to have you come back if shit went wrong. And if you remember,fontaine couldn't access the ADAM without Ryan's genetic key (which only Ryan or ONE OF HIS BLOODLINE could use), which you got from him after you kill him.

As for the sisters, they didn't make the slugs.The slugs were what made the ADAM; they lived in the little girls as parasites.

Iloved BioShock, but I think this premise is lame. I'll wait and see.

[A Happy Panda]

You were born as a child, but you were one of Suchong's experiments using the Adam to accelerate growth. If you remember some of the audio logs, they spoke of an experiment that had a child of only a few months old physically at the age of a 19 year old (or something similar) . Fontaine used the main character, because he was Ryan's son; harvested from the stripper he got pregnant. Fontaine sent you out only a few MONTHS before the events in Bioshock, to have you come back if shit went wrong. And if you remember,fontaine couldn't access the ADAM without Ryan's genetic key (which only Ryan or ONE OF HIS BLOODLINE could use), which you got from him after you kill him.

As for the sisters, they didn't make the slugs.The slugs were what made the ADAM; they lived in the little girls as parasites.

Iloved BioShock, but I think this premise is lame. I'll wait and see.

Thanks for the clear-up. With you filling in the details, I can't imagine why I thought the story was convoluted and overhyped in the first place...

I'm all for going back to Rapture, but like tons of people have said before, a prequel would've been better suited. Or, alternatively, instead of playing as Big Daddy, you play as a parent of one of the little girls who's been kidnapped, ala you could be one of those people who thoroughly believe "there's something in the sea" and you aim to find out and find your daughter.

[Luftwaffles08]

Thanks for the clear-up. With you filling in the details, I can't imagine why I thought the story was convoluted and overhyped in the first place...



Doesn't seem any more convoluted than every JRPG out there.

[Reality's Fringe]

Thanks for the clear-up. With you filling in the details, I can't imagine why I thought the story was convoluted and overhyped in the first place...

I'm all for going back to Rapture, but like tons of people have said before, a prequel would've been better suited. Or, alternatively, instead of playing as Big Daddy, you play as a parent of one of the little girls who's been kidnapped, ala you could be one of those people who thoroughly believe "there's something in the sea" and you aim to find out and find your daughter.

I don't think it's convoluted, but it's kind of a reach. The presentation sold it to me, making it more than just a generic Sci-Fi story. I think they should just remake System Shock 2. I'd buy that shit in a minute.

[A Happy Panda]

Doesn't seem any more convoluted than every JRPG out there.

Yep. Welcome to why I absolutely despise Metal Gear. The series has always had interesting gameplay MOMENTS, but I myself could never sit down and play any of them to the finish. Controls are bullshit, and the story is skullfuckingly retarded that I can't handle it.

But anyways, more Bioshock = more fun for me.

[JokerCard]

I pre-ordered this game from TRU mainly cause my Res 5 gift card from them was going to expire.

I loved the first one and this second one looks to be just as promising. Was there an announcement on release day?

TRU had it at 10/15 and then they moved it up now to 9/15.

[Flak]

New York, NY – May 8, 2009 – 2K Games, a publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO), announced today that it has signed a partnership with Digital Extremes to develop the multiplayer experience for BioShock® 2. Under this partnership, Digital Extremes is working closely with the creative team at 2K Marin to develop a new and substantial element that enhances the lore and fiction of the BioShock universe.

"The fans asked for a multiplayer experience and we answered," said Christoph Hartmann, president of 2K. "With Digital Extremes delivering a multiplayer experience for BioShock 2 that features all of the things that make BioShock unique, we're holding ourselves to a high standard so that we can deliver the depth and variety that fans of the BioShock universe demand."

Multiplayer in BioShock 2 provides a rich prequel experience that expands the origins of the BioShock fiction. Set during the fall of Rapture, players assume the role of a Plasmid test subject for Sinclair Solutions, a premier provider of Plasmids and Tonics in the underwater city of Rapture that was first explored in the original BioShock. Players will need to use all the elements of the BioShock toolset to survive as the full depth of the BioShock experience is refined and transformed into a unique multiplayer experience that can only be found in Rapture.

Key features:

? Evolution of the genetically enhanced shooter – Earn experience points during gameplay to earn access to new Weapons, Plasmids and Tonics that can be used to create hundreds of different combinations, allowing players to develop a unique character that caters to their playing style.

? Extend the Rapture fiction – Players will step into the shoes of Rapture citizens and learn more about the fall of Rapture as they progress through the experience.

? See Rapture before the fall – Experience Rapture before it was reclaimed by the ocean and engage in combat over iconic environments in locations such as Kashmir Restaurant and Mercury Suites, all of which have been reworked from the ground up to deliver a fast-paced multiplayer experience.

? FPS veterans add their touch to the multiplayer experience – Digital Extremes brings more than 10 years of first person shooter experience including development of award-winning entries in the Unreal® and Unreal Tournament® franchise.

http://ir.take2games.com/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=382773

Sounds pretty solid if they balance it right. Still hoping it doesn't take away from the single player experience.

[Ink.So.Well.]

It sounds absolutely orgasmic on paper. I just hope they can actually deliver on the vision they plan to make reality.

[life.exe]

I personally wish they would have just kept it single player only.

[mykevermin]

Skimming blogs this morning, I think I saw that the cats who developed Dark Sector are working on the multiplayer.

shit.

[Flak]

Hope it won't be as boring as DS.

[Ink.So.Well.]

DS multi honestly wasn't that bad but agree it is the farthest from an ideal fit for BS.

[Moxio]

Don't really give a shit about multiplayer. As long as the single player is good, that's all I want.

[Corvin]

"The fans asked for a multiplayer experience and we answered,"

I want to know what "fans" they spoke to. Other than a person here and there, reading around, it seems the overwhelming majority think Bioshock should remain a single player experience.

Sounds like they are wasting their time and money.

[Raconteur]

Everyone these days wants multiplayer. I don't care if it's there or not, as long as it does not interfere with the single player experience. I want them to focus 110% of their time and energy to make sure the campaign is bad ass. I'm truly glad there's a separate team doing the online portion, so hopefully the story won't be lacking or be short since there is full focus by the team. I hope multiplayer is fun, but if not, oh well!

[Hydro2Oxide]

If it's bad multiplayer, it's bad multiplayer and you don't play it. If it's good multiplayer, awesome.

You guys need to chill out.

[PhrostByte]

If it's bad multiplayer, it's bad multiplayer and you don't play it. If it's good multiplayer, awesome.

You guys need to chill out.
Agreed.

[KingBroly]

The problem with the multiplayer is that they're trying to sell it as canon by saying its' the prequel.

[PhrostByte]

No big deal really.. it's a game. If it's fun, it's fun. Bioshock 1 was fun. The story wasn't amazing or anything but the game play was great. The graphics were great. The atmosphere was great. As long as Bioshock 2 follows, it'll be a big hit. If the multiplayer is worth playing, that's just added replayability.

[MasterSprtn117]

Hmm, I need to replay the first one sometime before the second comes out...

[slickkill77]

They hired a new team to do the multiplayer

[Corvin]

They hired a new team to do the multiplayer

That doesn't matter, it's still part of the same budget and money that could be going towards crafting a better solo experience.

[TC]

I want to know what "fans" they spoke to. Other than a person here and there, reading around, it seems the overwhelming majority think Bioshock should remain a single player experience.

Sounds like they are wasting their time and money.

Never once when I was playing Bioshock did I think to myself "Gee multiplayer is what this game really needs". Its their money to waste. We'll see how it turns out.

[jughead]

Maybe they don't want the sequel to go bargain bin as fast as the first one did.

[klwillis45]

Never once when I was playing Bioshock did I think to myself "Gee multiplayer is what this game really needs". Its their money to waste. We'll see how it turns out. +1

[slickkill77]

It doesn't need multiplayer, but if it's good then why complain?

[klwillis45]

Any time there's tacked on MP, people will complain.

Why devote resources & disk space for something that's a waste?
Use those things for the part people give a rip about instead.

[Luftwaffles08]

Never once when I was playing Bioshock did I think to myself "Gee multiplayer is what this game really needs". Its their money to waste. We'll see how it turns out.


Maybe they looked at Resident Evil 5 and said: Multiplayer nobody wanted!? We can do that!

[Sofa King Kool]

Just watched the nine minute demo video. So far, I'm extremely disappointed with both the concept and gameplay...

[slickkill77]

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14240341/bioshock-2/videos/bioshock2_trl_walk051209c.html


I'm going to complete disagree. I think it looks really fun. Combining plasmids, getting a drill...

[A Happy Panda]

Anyone else feel like if everything else was EXACTLY the same, but Ken Levine was still on the project, no one would be bitching?

[Trakan]

Anyone else feel like if everything else was EXACTLY the same, but Ken Levine was still on the project, no one would be bitching?

The premise sucks, so it wouldn't be the same with Ken Levine on the project.

Yes, though, you're right.

[Raconteur]

It looks alright. Better than what I expected when I heard you played as a big daddy, but I'm still skeptical. I guess we'll just have to see.

[PhrostByte]

Best looking console game evar, except maybe Tekken 6 hmm...

[StickyWaffles]

Anyone else feel like if everything else was EXACTLY the same, but Ken Levine was still on the project, no one would be bitching?No one would bitch because if Ken Levine was working on it, it would seem like 2k was doing as much as they could to make sure this sequel was the best it could be. Instead, they're passing it off to a couple studios that haven't proven that they can make a game like this.

I think this sequel looks badass personally, but I understand why people are not in favor of it. I noticed the 9 minute video yesterday, but I'm going to stop watching previews so that I'm at least a little bit suprised when I buy it the first day it comes out.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://kotaku.com/5313745/bioshock-2-delayed-to-fy-2010

This has been delayed from its October release to a vague fiscal year 2010 release.

[Matt Young]

Just saw that from Gamespot on Twitter. I expect either an August release like the original title, or a release on Halloween- the very last day of that fiscal year.

[slickkill77]

O well. Whatever it takes to make it better

[KingofOldSchool]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*cries*

[phantomfriar2002]

That sucks

[Ski Hawk]

I knew this game would be delayed, but I hate being right.

[budz]

Getting Bioshock this week. Guess I have more time to beat that before this game comes out. Yay?

[MasterSprtn117]

Getting Bioshock this week. Guess I have more time to beat that before this game comes out. Yay?

Same here! :applause:

[Magehart]

*sigh*. This is the only game i'm willing to part with my $$$ for to buy the limited edition on launch day. I've never done it with any other game. That's how badly I want this and love the first one.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Heh... I feel the same way about the sequel to Mass Effect. It'll mark my first no-brainer LE purchase in my gaming history. A damn shame this got delayed just as I finished BS a couple of weeks ago. ;\

[Raconteur]

Too many good games are coming out in Nov, it's be overkill and get less attention. Smart move.

[Magehart]

Too many good games are coming out in Nov, it's be overkill and get less attention. Smart move.

I'd actually argue it would overshadow all other games in November. The only ones who'd compete would be L4D2 and these two games share the same market of players but the difference is L4D2 is nearly a rehash while Bio2 is a continuation therefore it would capture more of the market.

[javeryh]

I don't care when it comes out as long as it is good. If more time is needed to make it better then so be it.

[Trakan]

I'd actually argue it would overshadow all other games in November. The only ones who'd compete would be L4D2 and these two games share the same market of players but the difference is L4D2 is nearly a rehash while Bio2 is a continuation therefore it would capture more of the market.

I can't think of anything else that comes out in November right now, but perhaps you're forgetting about the juggernaut that is MW2. Activision is pushing its own games back so MW2 doesn't overshadow them.

[perdition(troy]

I'm crying on the inside and the outside right now. This really sucks.

[mtxbass1]

You guys actually buy the line about "more development time being needed"? Seriously?

This was largely a financial move. Take Two needs something to inflate their portfolio in the next fiscal year. Moving this to 2010 does that and keeps stock holders happier then.

[TC]

This was maybe my most wanted title this Fall. Kinda sucks but I'd rather wait and get a better product.

[Yanksfan]

It does suck it was delayed, but as long as the game is great, I don't care if they push it back another time.

I still have Brutal Legend and Scribblenauts coming this year. What more does a gamer need?

[perdition(troy]

bioshock 2 :(

[Flak]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-multiplayer-bioshock-2/55395

I'm not sure what to think. That freeze-charge combo looks a bit overpowered, but I get the impression the average lifespan isn't that long. And then there's some sort of incentive for taking a breather to photograph your corpse, which then feels out of place with the hectic gameplay. Too early to tell but that's my gut reaction. Still not convinced MP Bioshock is a good idea.

[help1]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-multiplayer-bioshock-2/55395

I'm not sure what to think. That freeze-charge combo looks a bit overpowered, but I get the impression the average lifespan isn't that long. And then there's some sort of incentive for taking a breather to photograph your corpse, which then feels out of place with the hectic gameplay. Too early to tell but that's my gut reaction. Still not convinced MP Bioshock is a good idea.

It looks like a cluster fuck with no central focus what so ever.

Here is to hoping the SP doesnt suck.

[slickkill77]

huh.....well as long as the single player is good.

[Hydro2Oxide]

After seeing that, I'm glad they pushed it back. Those animations look terrible.

[Ink.So.Well.]

It looks like a cluster fuck with no central focus what so ever.

A clear understatement which is why I'm even more excited than before after watching that video. Right now I'd love a nearly brainless MP experience where I can just pop the game in and play it so I won't have to look to Gears 2 as a fall back. Now I'm glad they pushed it back to fine tune it. I just hope it isn't plagued with glitches. The frozen charge technique does look irritating as fuck but with so many people running around on a map it should limit the opportunities to finish a kill without getting it stolen or dying in the process.

So long as it's somewhat balanced I'll probably get my money's worth and then some.

[A Happy Panda]

The idea of running around with plasmids in MP sounded awesome in Bioshock 1 and I'm glad they're developing it for Bioshock 2. But goddamn was that trailer awful. Sure, they gave the idea of the MP mode context, but the actual gameplay clips I was left wondering WTF is going on?

Terrible terrible trailer. Still super excited for the game though.

[help1]

A clear understatement which is why I'm even more excited than before after watching that video. Right now I'd love a nearly brainless MP experience where I can just pop the game in and play it so I won't have to look to Gears 2 as a fall back. Now I'm glad they pushed it back to fine tune it. I just hope it isn't plagued with glitches. The frozen charge technique does look irritating as fuck but with so many people running around on a map it should limit the opportunities to finish a kill without getting it stolen or dying in the process.

So long as it's somewhat balanced I'll probably get my money's worth and then some.

If you want mindless fun play call of duty free for all.

The idea of running around with plasmids in MP sounded awesome in Bioshock 1 and I'm glad they're developing it for Bioshock 2. But goddamn was that trailer awful. Sure, they gave the idea of the MP mode context, but the actual gameplay clips I was left wondering WTF is going on?

Terrible terrible trailer. Still super excited for the game though.

I am hoping it is just a bad trailer. I love bioshock, but this game's multiplayer looks like it will have no central focus and ultimately seem feel tacked on. That trailer just didn't show anything. No teams, no objectives, just tons of shooting whatever is the first thing moving.

[BackInBlack]

If you want mindless fun play call of duty free for all.




You really aren't gona run out of ways to troll CoD are you? How is COD FFA anymore of a cluster fuck compared to ffa in other games?

Regardless, stoked.

[timesplitt]

If you want mindless fun play call of duty free for all.



I am hoping it is just a bad trailer. I love bioshock, but this game's multiplayer looks like it will have no central focus and ultimately seem feel tacked on. That trailer just didn't show anything. No teams, no objectives, just tons of shooting whatever is the first thing moving.

you still got a year.. complain every day until its released!!

do you not even know that both modes are being worked on by separate GOD DAMN TEAMS

[help1]

You really aren't gona run out of ways to troll CoD are you? How is COD FFA anymore of a cluster fuck compared to ffa in other games?

Regardless, stoked.

How is that trolling? I said it was fun, but mindless.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Just read on Gamestop's website that 2/9/10 is the official release date. Can anyone confirm?

[slickkill77]

Yes. 2k confirmed it at PAX or whatever conference is going on right now

[slickkill77]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfycXKeXy_A


Looks like fun. Hopefully they get the, less than stellar looking, multiplayer fixed. And hopefully the story holds up. Thats what I'm more interested in.

[life.exe]

They need to fire whoever is making these trailers.

[Shrapnellistic]

I like how there's a cap when underwater. Ughh... those sections aren't going to be any fun without weapons.

[slickkill77]

Idk shooting underwater would be awkward

[Shrapnellistic]

Not with the drill or rivet gun and plasmids (except the electric and fire).

[LinkinPrime]

Capture The Sister (MP) trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/capture-the-bioshock-2/58296

Looks pretty cool!

[slickkill77]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcBfJxqevpM


Same thing just embedded.

[javeryh]

Looks pretty cool. I really love the old-timey aesthetics of this game. The game looks similar to the first one (which is a good thing).

[klwillis45]

Joystiq hands-on. (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/29/hands-on-bioshock-2/#continued)

[javeryh]

More of the same is fine with me. It's been 2 years since the last game and it will be 2.5 by the time it is released. I hate yearly sequels but one every 2-3 years is fine by me.