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mykevermin
10-27-2008, 07:16 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/washington/28stevens.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Alaska Senator Is Convicted of Ethics Breach in Gift Scheme
By NEIL A. LEWIS

WASHINGTON — Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, the longest-serving Republican in the Senate’s history and a figure of enormous influence in his state, was found guilty on Monday of violating ethics laws for failing to report gifts and services that he was given by friends.

A federal jury of eight women and four men from the District of Columbia found that the 84-year-old Mr. Stevens, who has represented Alaska in the Senate for more than 40 years, knowingly failed to list on Senate disclosure forms the receipt of several gifts and tens of thousands of dollars worth of remodeling work on his home in Girdwood, Alaska.

The verdict came just eight days before the senator is to face re-election and after more than three weeks of testimony, the highlight of which was Mr. Stevens making the calculated risk of taking the witness stand in his own defense. As the verdict was announced, the senator remained composed and stared at the ceiling while his lawyer, Brendan Sullivan, put his arm around him.

Just before the trial, the senator sounded defiant. “Put this down,” he told reporters. “I am not stepping down. I’m going to run through, and I’m going to win this election.” He did not signal whether the verdict had softened his stance, but he was heard to tell his wife, Catherine, afterward, “It’s not over yet.” The senator remains free on bail.

Mr. Stevens has long been tied to the rough-and-tumble history of his home state and wields outsized influence over federal spending. Government prosecutors used evidence and testimony to paint a picture in which several of Mr. Stevens’s wealthy Alaskan friends, keenly aware of his status as the dominant political figure in the state, were eager to shower him with gifts.

The indictment charged that he received some $250,000 worth from a longtime friend, Bill Allen, the owner of a huge oil-services construction company, as well as a sled dog, an expensive massage chair and other items from other friends.

Mr. Stevens’s defense was largely built on the notion that many of the goods and services he received were unasked for, and were things for which he had no use. In the case of the massage chair, he testified that it was not a gift from Bob Persons, a friend and restaurant owner, but rather a loan — even though the chair has remained in his Washington home for more than seven years and has been used by the senator.

Moreover, he asserted that his wife of 28 years, Catherine, and not he, oversaw the remaking of the Alaska home from a simple A-frame cabin into a grander two-story residence fitted with two decks, a new garage and amenities like a whirlpool, steam room and expensive gas grill.

Mr. Stevens is facing another jury, made up of Alaska’s voters, who will decide on Nov. 4 whether to return him to the Senate or elect a Democrat, Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, to replace him. Political analysts had said that a conviction would make it highly unlikely that Mr. Stevens could win re-election.

Democrats have invested heavily in the Alaska race and have run television advertisements featuring excerpts from wiretaps and fictional F.B.I. agents.

Democrats now have a 51-to-49 margin in the Senate (counting two independents who usually vote with them), so the conviction of Mr. Stevens could have great importance politically. As a power on the Appropriations Committee, the senator has wielded wide influence, which he has used to steer money to his own state as well as to persuade other senators.

Before Democrats captured the Senate in the 2006 elections, Mr. Stevens, as president pro tem of the Senate, was third in line for the presidency, after the vice president and Speaker of the House.

Shortly after the verdict, the Alaska Democratic Party called on the senator to step down. “He knew what he was doing was wrong, but he did it anyway and lied to Alaskans about it,” Patti Higgins, the party chairwoman, said in a statement. “Alaskans deserve better from their public officials. It’s time for us to elect an ethical and honest senator who will move this state forward.” Mr. Stevens is certain to appeal the conviction, and his supporters are also likely to explore the possibility of obtaining a pardon from a fellow Republican, President George W. Bush, before Mr. Bush leaves office in January.

Senator Daniel K. Inouye, Democrat of Hawaii, has been a close friend of Mr. Stevens and expressed sorrow after the verdict. “I hope the people of Alaska continue to believe in Ted Stevens, to remember his contributions and to look upon him as a friend,” Mr. Inouye said in a statement issued in Honolulu. “He will continue to be my friend.”The maximum sentence on each of the felony charges is five years in prison, but federal sentencing guidelines could call for much less than that. Mr. Stevens will turn 85 on Nov. 18. Judge Emmet Sullivan did not set a date for sentencing, but said it would be after February. A senator can be expelled only by a two-thirds vote of the entire Senate, so a conviction does not automatically cost a lawmaker his seat. Since 1789, only 15 senators have been expelled, mostly for supporting the Confederacy during the Civil War, according to the Senate Web site.

Should Mr. Stevens win re-election but then resign or be expelled, the Alaska governor, now Sarah Palin, would have to call a special election to fill the vacancy.

In 1982, the Senate Ethics Committee recommended that Senator Harrison J. Williams, Democrat of New Jersey, be expelled because of his conviction on bribery, conspiracy and conflict of interest charges in the Abscam scandal, and in 1995 the committee recommended the expulsion of Senator Robert W. Packwood, Republican of Oregon, for sexual misconduct. Both men resigned before the full Senate could vote. Mr. Williams was convicted of bribery and conspiracy and served 21 months in federal prison.

Deliberations in the Stevens case were sometimes tense as members of the panel complained about the behavior of one juror. On Monday morning, an alternate juror was seated to take the place of a member who had left because of a death in the family.

After Monday’s verdict, Judge Sullivan said all jurors had told him they did not want to speak to reporters. “They have asked to go home, and they are en route home,” he said.

David Stout contributed reporting.


What? Are you shocked?

Ikohn4ever
10-27-2008, 07:24 PM
i would have heard about this earlier but the tubes to my internet were clogged so I couldnt get my info fast enough

Dead of Knight
10-27-2008, 07:52 PM
What? Are you shocked?

Kind of. Apparently the prosecution was so bad it seemed like they were rigged. Of course, it all has to go through appeals, but this is a good first step.

speedracer
10-27-2008, 08:03 PM
What? Are you shocked?
I am. I thought he'd find a way. They almost always do. You really thought he'd be found guilty?

I would have put odds at 5 to 1.

camoor
10-27-2008, 08:22 PM
A federal jury of eight women and four men from the District of Columbia found that the 84-year-old Mr. Stevens, who has represented Alaska in the Senate for more than 40 years, knowingly failed to list on Senate disclosure forms the receipt of several gifts and tens of thousands of dollars worth of remodeling work on his home in Girdwood, Alaska.

Don't you guys think the place the jury was pulled from had something to do with it.

DCites had no stake in the goodies Stevens brought home to constituents (in fact people from DC don't get any goodies period - taxation without representation and all that)

Ugamer_X
10-27-2008, 08:22 PM
Still only behind by one point in his senate race!

We can do this Alaska!

vherub
10-27-2008, 11:37 PM
There needs to be a law in place that bans people from running for public office when convicted of a violation while in office. Disgraceful.

Strell
10-28-2008, 12:27 AM
After Monday’s verdict, Judge Sullivan said all jurors had told him they did not want to speak to reporters. “They have asked to go home, and they are en route home,” he said.


Hope they didn't take the bridge.

pittpizza
10-28-2008, 12:29 AM
GOod idea vherub.

detectiveconan16
10-28-2008, 08:35 AM
:drool:Meh, he still has a good chance of winning another term.

bmulligan
10-28-2008, 09:25 AM
Am I shocked? Not about Stevens being convicted.

I'm more shocked that you aren't dancing around your office in your underwear marking another "1" on the whiteboard. Or did we just miss the feed?

mykevermin
10-28-2008, 10:24 AM
It was a private affair, the doorman wouldn't have let you in anyhow.

Dr Mario Kart
10-28-2008, 11:57 AM
You can saved the shocked part for when we find out how light his sentence is.

62t
10-28-2008, 01:17 PM
so if he is a convicted felon would he be able to vote for himself?

HowStern
10-28-2008, 01:20 PM
so if he is a convicted felon would he be able to vote for himself?
Yes. But if you buy him a nice grill you may be able to sway his opinion.

Reality's Fringe
10-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Please remember that there is no law preventing a felon from being a senator.

Ugamer_X
10-28-2008, 04:02 PM
You can saved the shocked part for when we find out how light his sentence is.
Or when he's pardoned.

elprincipe
10-28-2008, 09:51 PM
At least, assuming his appeal fails, after this election we will finally be rid of Stevens and Don Young. There are a lot of pork-barrelers around in Congress, to be sure, but ditching two of the biggest is never a bad thing. Let's hope the same thing happens to people like Robert Byrd and John Murtha (actually Murtha is in a close race, c'mon, lose you racist bastard).

bmulligan
10-28-2008, 10:48 PM
At least, assuming his appeal fails, after this election we will finally be rid of Stevens and Don Young. There are a lot of pork-barrelers around in Congress, to be sure, but ditching two of the biggest is never a bad thing. Let's hope the same thing happens to people like Robert Byrd and John Murtha (actually Murtha is in a close race, c'mon, lose you racist bastard).

I'll second that notion !

homeland
10-28-2008, 11:23 PM
What pisses me off about this is, even convicted he's still going to get 122k a year from his pension..Gotta love it!

vherub
10-29-2008, 12:23 PM
On some level, pork is akin to embezzlement. And a clown like Stevens is cut from the same cloth as those in the corporate world who misappropriate the wealth they have at their disposal. The difference is, he is using that wealth to directly benefit himself, his buddies and his shareholders (the people of alaska), so they, naturally, would be happy with that.
The majority of these funds are coming from taxpayers in other states, but people in other states have no means of influencing congressmen in other states. He answers to the voters of alaska, while he funnels in the mney from the voters of new york or california.

The entire affair reeks of conflict of interest, and the most troubling part is, the system itself is rigged by alot of the same self-interested parties as Ted Stevens. On numerous levels, the government's financial affairs are more corrupt than other white collar criminals in the corporate world. How can the government be tasked with disciplining the leaders of AIG or Freddie Mac when their own financial leaders demonstrate such damaging behavior.

depascal22
10-29-2008, 04:07 PM
Pork is not embezzlement. While there is alot of it that goes for silly projects, much of it is good for states and local communities. Besides, the amount of pork is much smaller than most of us think it is.

When you pay federal taxes, it can go to anyone in any state or territory that the government wants it to. Would you rather your money go to pork or would you want your dollars to be in the package we give to some warlord in Waziristan? His loyalty doesn't come cheap and I sure as hell don't see any government workers digging into their own pockets to pay him off.

elprincipe
10-31-2008, 01:16 AM
What pisses me off about this is, even convicted he's still going to get 122k a year from his pension..Gotta love it!

Maybe Congress will vote to take his pension away.
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Yeah, right.

Well, actually it's happened before, but still yeah, right.

elprincipe
10-31-2008, 01:20 AM
Pork is not embezzlement. While there is alot of it that goes for silly projects, much of it is good for states and local communities. Besides, the amount of pork is much smaller than most of us think it is.

When you pay federal taxes, it can go to anyone in any state or territory that the government wants it to. Would you rather your money go to pork or would you want your dollars to be in the package we give to some warlord in Waziristan? His loyalty doesn't come cheap and I sure as hell don't see any government workers digging into their own pockets to pay him off.

While pork is not embezzlement, your defense of it is flawed. You make it sound as if specific members of Congress using taxpayer funds to buy votes and repay supporters is "good for states and local communities." If things were done on merit by experts instead of money being misappropriated in this way, we wouldn't have bridges to nowhere or roads to nowhere, and I'd wager we'd have less corruption.

Finally, the choice you present is a false choice also. It's a choice between engineers deciding we need to use that money to repair a bridge in Minnesota instead of building a road to nowhere in Alaska or a Woodstock museum, not between the repair and giving money to warlords.

vherub
10-31-2008, 12:33 PM
I did not say pork is embezzlement, just that they are two very similar concepts, and in the wrong hands, pork has a very similar result.
There are incompetent members of congress and there are corrupt members of congress, and when there is a tremendous amount of money, with little oversight, the incompetent and corrupt end up fleecing the citizen shareholder.
True, there are many good state and local projects which federal funds should and do go to. But the process of determining which projects get funds is very flawed.

The argument that most of the "bad pork" is small is at the very center of the problem. Every appropriation of funding should be accounted for, justified and later reevaluated to see if the monies went to the problem and how successful it was. The same should be true of military expenditures. And when congressmen assign funds for bad projects, there needs to be a mechanism of punishment that is not solely based on their constituency who may be biased by such inappropriate use of funds.

Javery
10-31-2008, 12:37 PM
I will never understand why any 84 year old would voluntarily have a job.

elprincipe
11-01-2008, 12:26 AM
True, there are many good state and local projects which federal funds should and do go to.

Disagree. I think it would be much more efficient and a better system of government to get back to recognizing that the 10th Amendment exists. It's ridiculous for the federal government to take money away from citizens of states only to give it back to them for their own educational system, for example. Not only is it painfully and needlessly inefficient, but it reduces state power in an area which clearly should be left to state and local control. I'm all for the FEDERAL government only funding FEDERAL matters.

KingBroly
11-01-2008, 12:34 AM
I will never understand why any 84 year old would voluntarily have a job.

Maybe you should ask the Democratic Senator from West Virginia (his name escapes me atm). And yes, I know he's much older than 84.

Msut77
11-01-2008, 01:35 AM
Maybe you should ask the Democratic Senator from West Virginia (his name escapes me atm). And yes, I know he's much older than 84.

Byrd is the word.

KingBroly
11-01-2008, 01:57 AM
Ah, thanks. Hadn't heard much about him in a while. I guess that's why I forgot.

Thongsy
11-01-2008, 03:00 AM
Never liked him. Hopefully Begich will pull it off and win. It's not suprising that they're about even in the polls. Considering Alaska is a Republican state and he's been the Senator for forty years now. There is no way he'll be in the Senate for the next term, but if he does win it keeps the seat red since Palin will get her choice of people to put in it.

KingBroly
11-01-2008, 07:01 AM
Just curious as to what politicians across the aisle you do like. This goes for everyone.

bmulligan
11-01-2008, 09:36 AM
If you want to know what a real conspiracy theorist looks like, look up Mark Begich.

depascal22
11-01-2008, 09:50 AM
If you want to know what a real conspiracy theorist looks like, look up Mark Begich.

So please illustrate us with the conspiracy. Are you saying that he exposed Stevens' corruption? Or is there something darker underneath it all?

GuilewasNK
11-02-2008, 05:55 AM
Please remember that there is no law preventing a felon from being a senator.


Which doesn't make sense. If a felon can't vote in elections, how could they vote on legislation?

Sleepkyng
11-02-2008, 07:14 AM
On some level, pork is akin to embezzlement. And a clown like Stevens is cut from the same cloth as those in the corporate world who misappropriate the wealth they have at their disposal. The difference is, he is using that wealth to directly benefit himself, his buddies and his shareholders (the people of alaska), so they, naturally, would be happy with that.
The majority of these funds are coming from taxpayers in other states, but people in other states have no means of influencing congressmen in other states. He answers to the voters of alaska, while he funnels in the mney from the voters of new york or california.

The entire affair reeks of conflict of interest, and the most troubling part is, the system itself is rigged by alot of the same self-interested parties as Ted Stevens. On numerous levels, the government's financial affairs are more corrupt than other white collar criminals in the corporate world. How can the government be tasked with disciplining the leaders of AIG or Freddie Mac when their own financial leaders demonstrate such damaging behavior.


interesting point and you have a krazy kat avatar.

you sir, are a good man.

The Mana Knight
11-02-2008, 10:10 AM
Never liked him. Hopefully Begich will pull it off and win. It's not suprising that they're about even in the polls. Considering Alaska is a Republican state and he's been the Senator for forty years now. There is no way he'll be in the Senate for the next term, but if he does win it keeps the seat red since Palin will get her choice of people to put in it.I thought I heard on some public radio while in my car that she wouldn't be able to appoint the new senator due to Alaska law or something (I may have heard that wrong). I know some states it's that way, but I'm not sure (I'd have to look it up).

Usually when someone commits some crime, they usually don't get elected. I remember during our Mayor race, there seemed to be this one Republican with a HUGE lead and was very popular to the city (winning the primary by a big margin). But once something illegal he did with campaign funding was leaked and heard about charges being pressed against him, his popularity decreased significantly and lost badly to the Democrat running (Who didn't have much money and barely advertised his campaign like the other guy). It's still on the news about the charges.

bmulligan
11-03-2008, 11:17 AM
So please illustrate us with the conspiracy. Are you saying that he exposed Stevens' corruption? Or is there something darker underneath it all?

Sorry, I've confused Mike with his brother Nick, both the sons of former US congressman, Nick Sr. I read a book about ten years ago by Begich called Angels Don't Play This HAARP. It's right up Level1's alley.

http://www.haarp.net/

vherub
11-05-2008, 11:57 AM
to update, the race is not yet called, with Stevens leading

disgraceful

dmaul1114
11-05-2008, 12:16 PM
I thought I heard on some public radio while in my car that she wouldn't be able to appoint the new senator due to Alaska law or something (I may have heard that wrong). I know some states it's that way, but I'm not sure (I'd have to look it up).


Yeah, Alaska has a runoff election rather than a gubernatorial appointment to replace senators.

So if Steven's steps down, or is forced out, there would be a new run off election after a couple of months to allow campaigning etc.

And it's absurd that people would vote for someone who was just convicted of a felony related to their job. Guess that explains how Palin's dumbass got elected and has an 80% approval rating.

Can we cast more support behind the Alaska Independent Party and boot these fucktards from the Union?

Dead of Knight
11-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Alaska is dumber than I thought. Which says a lot.

KingBroly
11-05-2008, 01:19 PM
Bush is going to pardon him. And I will laugh.

elprincipe
11-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Ugh, I spoke too soon and put too much stock in the polls that had Begich and Berkowitz up. Stevens and Young are going back to Washington...wow. And John Murtha too, the race-baiting asshole. Maybe they'll kick Stevens out and Palin can appoint champion snowmobiler Todd to the seat.

dmaul1114
11-05-2008, 10:01 PM
As I said a couple posts before, Alaska doesn't do gubernatorial appointments for senators who step down, die etc. They'll have a runoff election if he gets kicked out.

Dead of Knight
11-05-2008, 10:44 PM
As I said a couple posts before, Alaska doesn't do gubernatorial appointments for senators who step down, die etc. They'll have a runoff election if he gets kicked out.

Good. Gooooooooooooooood.

depascal22
11-07-2008, 08:14 AM
They just re-elected Stevens so they didn't have to vote for a Democrat. It's kind of bad when the people decide that a felon that won't be allowed to even sit one day is better than the Democratic Mayor of Anchorage. Dumb ass Alaskans.

Dr Mario Kart
11-07-2008, 01:09 PM
The stats going in were for Stevens losing.

Enter the extreme voting irregularities in Alaska.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/stolen-election-in-alaska_b_141704.html

gaxur
11-07-2008, 05:11 PM
I personally wrote to my Senator and Represenative.

The letter to the Rep. was basically "dude, felons can't vote but they can serve in the fucking Senate?!"

The letter to the Sen. was basically "dude, ^, and please for the love of common sense kick this bastard out."

Dead of Knight
11-12-2008, 10:08 PM
The absentee ballots have been counted and now BEGICH is currently ahead-- BY THREE fuckING VOTES!!!
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/08general/data/results.htm

HOLY SHIT

Ikohn4ever
11-12-2008, 11:04 PM
hope is ass is booted so Palin doesnt get to put someone in his place, possibly herself.

Dead of Knight
11-12-2008, 11:27 PM
I think I read somewhere that Alaska does a runoff election if a senator steps down and the governor doesn't appoint, but I could be wrong.

Mike23
11-12-2008, 11:54 PM
3 votes? really? Good thing felons can't vote.

elprincipe
11-14-2008, 08:53 PM
AP says Young won, but Stevens is still up in the air.

Thongsy
11-16-2008, 06:35 PM
Yep, Alaska does a runoff election, the governor has no power in selecting anybody. Stevens is down by about a thousand votes with 40-50,000 ballots still to be counted.

Dead of Knight
11-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Stevens lost!!! YES

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94HMVA80&show_article=1
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has lost his bid for a seventh term.

The longest-serving Republican in the history of the Senate trailed Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich by 3,724 votes after Tuesday's count.

That's an insurmountable lead with only about 2,500 overseas ballots left to be counted.

Stevens, who turned 85 Tuesday, also revealed that he will not ask President George W. Bush to give him a pardon for his seven felony convictions.

HowStern
11-19-2008, 11:00 AM
Their brains aren't frozen after all!

dmaul1114
11-19-2008, 12:18 PM
Good news indeed. Now hopefully Franken wins the recount in MN and Chambliss loses the runoff in Ga.

elprincipe
11-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Good news indeed. Now hopefully Franken wins the recount in MN and Chambliss loses the runoff in Ga.

Whoa, whoa there. I'm very happy Stevens is out, but I'd like a check on unfettered ultra-liberal government, please. In particular, I'd like Franken nowhere near any part of any government, thank you very much.

62t
11-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Senator Ted Stevens Receives Standing Ovation on the Senate Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x3Cj-sHLqY