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darthbudge

11-07-2008, 07:12 PM

I searched around and I didn't see an official Left 4 Dead thread, so I figured I would go ahead and make one.

The demo has really peaked my interest, Expert difficulty is definately the way to go. It really makes you work together.

Did anyone else get into the early demo? Maybe we can get some CAGs playing together.

Sgt.Seedy

11-07-2008, 10:39 PM

I'm up for playing, and yes the game is ridiclously awesome!

SilentSinr

11-08-2008, 08:52 PM

yea the demo is amazing, i have been playing the demo levels over and over ahaha (normally i play a demo once and then delete it but this demo is addictive lol )
i cant wait for the full game ^_^

cgarb84

11-09-2008, 12:41 PM

darthbudge

11-09-2008, 12:47 PM

I just finished the single-player part of the demo and yeah, it is amazing. I can't believe how smart the AI is, both zombie and your teammates. Whenever I play any new Valve product it always makes me realize why Valve is the best developer out there. They are incapable of producing bad products I swear.

Don't say that man! You are gonna jinx them. :lol:

But yeah, this certainly is a great game. I am actually gonna get it for PC and 360. That way I can have the best of both worlds. 8-)

LancerEvoX

11-09-2008, 05:28 PM

Are there any news if community made maps would be supported for L4D?

StinkyCheese

11-09-2008, 05:28 PM

Once the demo comes out for the people who havent pre-ordered , I'm willing to play

NTolerance

11-12-2008, 03:14 PM

Are there any news if community made maps would be supported for L4D?

No official word on that, but every other Valve PC game has supported mod tools so I don't see why L4D would be any different.

Played the demo for the first time last night and thought it was great. Ran through the same two levels over and over and it was different each time due to the AI Director shizz. The fast zombies, the tank guys, and the smokers are all funny to watch and come out of nowhere. My gang ran into some special chick zombie (can't remember the name) and a teammate threw a molotov cocktail at her and it was hilarious. The M16 is great. I wonder what other weapons are available in the full version.

crystalklear64

11-12-2008, 03:40 PM

Been playing the demo all morning.

Its too easy single player imo. The team mate AI is too good.

Online with other people who don't know what they are doing is so much more fun.

eswat

11-12-2008, 03:47 PM

Are there any news if community made maps would be supported for L4D?Yes, they will be supported.

Also, The Director will be part of Source SDK sometime after L4D comes out, so maybe we will see some mods taking advantage of that also.

bhk

11-12-2008, 05:07 PM

I love this game so much. add me on Steam guys!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/bhk2/

plasticbathmonki

11-12-2008, 05:23 PM

I think I'll preorder this one after work. It sounds like everyone's enjoying it for the most part.

darthbudge

11-12-2008, 05:33 PM

Well I just pre-ordered this last night, so I will be already to play on Tuesday. :whee:

Serik

11-12-2008, 07:33 PM

The demo's only fun if you play on the highest difficulty. The other options make it too easy.

Plenty of LOL moments. Everyone but Bill got wiped out during a tank charge. As a huge swarm of zombies rushed him, his character said "I didn't sign up for this!" Game over.

grndoom

11-12-2008, 09:35 PM

Are there any news if community made maps would be supported for L4D?
If you search through the Steam forum for L4D (and I think on that l4d 411 site) there are already screens and/or a vid floating around of people playing on custom maps.

KingDox

11-12-2008, 11:35 PM

Good game, but I don't think it's worth 45 bucks. I'll hold off.

kamui34

11-13-2008, 01:43 AM

No official word on that, but every other Valve PC game has supported mod tools so I don't see why L4D would be any different.

Played the demo for the first time last night and thought it was great. Ran through the same two levels over and over and it was different each time due to the AI Director shizz. The fast zombies, the tank guys, and the smokers are all funny to watch and come out of nowhere. My gang ran into some special chick zombie (can't remember the name) and a teammate threw a molotov cocktail at her and it was hilarious. The M16 is great. I wonder what other weapons are available in the full version.

That's a Witch. My last encounter with her after a stray bullet made into a fast wipe for the entire team :)

Sir_Fragalot

11-13-2008, 03:29 AM

I love this game, the AI Director is insane. Me and my roomate were playing earlier. The first level that fucktard hits the car to just hit it (we are playing on expert btw and he knows what happens when the car is hit). We could not get out of the subway on the 2nd level. We kept getting into some bad luck, which ultimately caused our fail, lol.

plasticbathmonki

11-13-2008, 10:11 AM

Out of curiosity, is there any differences between the four characters other than appearance? Also, in single-player mode, can you switch between them?

On a totally separate note, today is my CAG b-day. Buy me presents. :P

AndrewCP

11-13-2008, 10:57 AM

Once the demo comes out for the people who havent pre-ordered , I'm willing to play

Public demo's been out for a few days now, I just grabbed it off Steam the other night. 4-5 days til you can't play it anymore.

dothog

11-13-2008, 01:04 PM

Only played through it on 1P really quickly. I liked it okay, would imagine that I would like good co-op play A LOT. However, I agree that $45 is a touch high. I'm gonna stick with TF2 until the price comes down.

Lone_Prodigy

11-13-2008, 01:17 PM

lol @ the Witch. Easy mode, 1P, and I hit her with the Hunter's Rifle, she woke up and knocked me down.

Agree about the high price.

Lice

11-13-2008, 02:50 PM

Played the demo and enjoyed it. Cant wait for the full game. I think its going to be a great pick up and shoot...

SilentSinr

11-13-2008, 09:21 PM

Preloading the full game now ^_^
i cant wait till i can play it

doctorfaustus

11-14-2008, 01:39 AM

Damn these hard economic times.

Tachikoma

11-14-2008, 04:55 PM

I don't think its overpriced. If you only take into account the campaigns then yes, but I think the real game will be the vs mode. This looks like it will unbelievably fun and cause mass hysteria when countless gamers are presumed missing after skipping work and ignoring friends to play it 24/7. Regardless, Pre-load complete and cant wait for the full release...

lokizz

11-14-2008, 07:31 PM

the game is pretty cool but i can see it getting old pretty fast. fast zombies are fun and the weapons work well too but im not overly wowed by it. you can only be scared by the swarms so often before you get over the excietment of it. i dont like the limitation on explosives carrying.

Lone_Prodigy

11-14-2008, 09:27 PM

grndoom

11-15-2008, 12:12 AM

Thanks for noticing Tarman doctorfaustus:)

I've pre-loaded as well, I seriously can't wait to see how the versus turns out. I'm definitely glad I only payed $45 for this, my current machine gets sub-par fps yea, but I can avoid XBL/DLC fees. Surprising to me is that the game still looks good with everything down to lowest.

UndyingForce

11-15-2008, 02:12 PM

dwhelan

11-15-2008, 04:49 PM

Just went to try and buy it, but no luck. The system is probably flagging my credit card info, since I am from the States, but located in Canada for right now. I guess I will have to go hunting on Monday for a copy, it should not be to hard though.

I really am looking forward to this, it is alot of fun on the Demo and the final version is just going to rock.

TheBiz

11-16-2008, 06:45 PM

I purchasded this game on amazon for 40.00

I cant wait to play the full version

It's $45 on Amazon. Anyways I was really looking forward to this but had no intention of buying it since I felt $45 was a steep price for a limited campaign mode. But after playing the demo everyday for the past week, I have no choice but to buy it. I figure Valve will keep releasing free major updates, like they do for TF2 (which is probably the best deal I've ever gotten for a game).

My question is how long do you guys think it will take Valve to lower the price on L4D? I got TF2 for $20 but that was this summer, after it had been out for a while.

UndyingForce

11-16-2008, 08:28 PM

It's $45 on Amazon. Anyways I was really looking forward to this but had no intention of buying it since I felt $45 was a steep price for a limited campaign mode. But after playing the demo everyday for the past week, I have no choice but to buy it. I figure Valve will keep releasing free major updates, like they do for TF2 (which is probably the best deal I've ever gotten for a game).

My question is how long do you guys think it will take Valve to lower the price on L4D? I got TF2 for $20 but that was this summer, after it had been out for a while.

you get another 5 dollars off right after you enter your credit card info.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201779

plasticbathmonki

11-17-2008, 10:18 AM

Since no one has asked, which do you all think is a better version: 360 or PC? I'll probably stick with the PC version, simply because I use my computer more than I do the 360.

DJSteel

11-17-2008, 10:40 AM

I do have some complaints with the game.

#1 - You don't have really any connections with the characters. What is the story and backgrounds from all the characters. I think that if this game had that, it would be better.

#2 - The Dead Rising Issue - I find satisfaction clearing out the rooms, what is not fun is spend all this time clearing out areas only to see the Zombies respawn in that area. It is what I hated with Dead Rising and why I quit the game all together.

#3 - There really is no story. You move from point A to point B. There really isn't any story to the single player missions.

The Good:
#1 - The AI is damn good.. a lot of shooters, just write it down, Left 4 Dead has great AI, figure out how they do it and copy it.

#2 - The game and maps look good and even without the sound (i had to play a bit on mute because of the wife sleeping on the couch next to me). Highly immersive. I would have liked them to put this together with a good story like the Walking Dead or something.

darthbudge

11-17-2008, 10:55 AM

DJSteel

11-17-2008, 11:03 AM

I hope so.. but for now it seems more like a Shadowrun with zombies

doctorfaustus

11-17-2008, 11:05 AM

Yeah, I do agree with what you said about the respawning zombies and the story line.

However, they haven't ruled out a story line just, I mean if you played the beginning of Portal it didn't look like much story was going on, but then the farther you got in, the more story you get. I still think there very well could be some cool plot elements added in later.

Even with that twist near the middle, Portal's story line was still almost non-existent. Yes, it was a neat gimmick and everyone loved the lie about the cake, but it was a mediocre story line.

I really don't care if there's much of a story line in L4D, blasting away at zombies is good enough. The way I see it, L4D is just a Zombie laden Gauntlet.

darthbudge

11-17-2008, 11:11 AM

Even with that twist near the middle, Portal's story line was still almost non-existent. Yes, it was a neat gimmick and everyone loved the lie about the cake, but it was a mediocre story line.

I really don't care if there's much of a story line in L4D, blasting away at zombies is good enough. The way I see it, L4D is just a Zombie laden Gauntlet.

I personally loved the story in Portal. I thought it was awesome, even though there wasn't a lot there.

Either way, I do agree with you. This is one of those old school co-op games, not much story but you get to have fun playing with friends and killing stuff.

Also, I can't wait to pick up the game tomorrow. :D

NTolerance

11-17-2008, 11:27 AM

I'm glad there's little "story" in this game. I don't need an excuse to shoot at zombies.

DJSteel

11-17-2008, 11:46 AM

I'm glad there's little "story" in this game. I don't need an excuse to shoot at zombies.

it's not about that.. it's about being emotionally attached to the 4 characters in the game... it's about why are these 4 together and what is driving them to kill the zombies? Why are they going through these particular locations?

NTolerance

11-17-2008, 11:51 AM

it's not about that.. it's about being emotionally attached to the 4 characters in the game... it's about why are these 4 together and what is driving them to kill the zombies? Why are they going through these particular locations?

That's cool and I'm sure most gamers agree with you but I just like shooting things and the extent of my emotional requirement from the game is the satisfaction I get from the zombies' heads exploding.

DJSteel

11-17-2008, 12:03 PM

That's cool and I'm sure most gamers agree with you but I just like shooting things and the extent of my emotional requirement from the game is the satisfaction I get from the zombies' heads exploding.

no doubt.. I just feel like, why do I care that one of my partners die? If it has no effect on me or the end goal.

darthbudge

11-17-2008, 12:09 PM

no doubt.. I just feel like, why do I care that one of my partners die? If it has no effect on me or the end goal.

Well, that is why they push the online co-op. That way it isn't Bill dying it is *insert friends name here* dying.

NTolerance

11-17-2008, 12:24 PM

Well, that is why they push the online co-op. That way it isn't Bill dying it is *insert friends name here* dying.

Exactly.

crystalklear64

11-17-2008, 12:40 PM

it's not about that.. it's about being emotionally attached to the 4 characters in the game... it's about why are these 4 together and what is driving them to kill the zombies? Why are they going through these particular locations?
The unsuspecting 4 survivors were sitting at home in their top story apartment complexes drinking tea (except for Louis, he's doing something stereotypical) and doing other bad-ass shit when they each, in their own way, notice that something is going on outside. They look out their respective windows and see, oh shit, there are zombies outside in the streets.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3759/l4d1wu9.jpg

Zoey climbs out of her window and uses the fire escape to reach the top of her building. Francis revs up the motorcycle he had in his closet and makes a ramp using his sofa and jumps it dramatically out of his window onto a nearby roof, but not before having to jump off his bike in mid air to just barely reach the ledge. Zoey sees Francis struggling to climb the ledge and, after making sure he's not a zombie with an awkward conversation, she helps him up. After two hours of steamy unprotected animal sex, Zoey and Francis make their way towards the hospital covered in search lights by sticking to the roof so as to avoid zombies.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5694/l4d2tu4.jpg

Louis has taken the week off to spend time with his family. Unfortunately, when he arrived home last Monday, he found that his wife had left him and taken his daughter with her. The grieving Louis decides that he is going to kill himself and proceeds to his window to commit auto-defenestration where he discovers that there are zombies outside. Realizing that he would be brought back to life if he were to kill himself now thanks to the zombies, he decides to hold off on his death and instead pops a ton of pain pills. High on life, he proceeds to his rooftop to make his way towards the hospital for more pain pills, the really good kind.

Bill lives in a retirement apartment complex, a seasoned war veteran long abandoned by his family when they bought a puppy. Bill spends most of his nights alone remembering his days in Nam. When he gets up in the middle of the night to take a piss out his window, he discovers the zombies. Bill is suddenly thrown into a violent wartime flashback and mistakes the zombies for vietcong. Determined not to be captured and placed into a POW camp again, Bill escapes from his apartment, grabbing his smokes on the way out. He makes for the hospital hoping to meet his buddy Charlie.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9769/l4d3bt8.jpg

Bill and Louis eventually meet on the rooftops and take comfort in each other's loss of family. After two hours of steamy unprotected animal sex, Bill and Louis make their way towards the hospital covered in search lights by sticking to the roof so as to avoid zombies.

Eventually the entire crew meets on top of the same building when a helicopter flies by and lets them know that evacuation awaits them at the hospital...

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5058/l4d4uy4.jpg

darthbudge

11-17-2008, 12:47 PM

:rofl:

plasticbathmonki

11-17-2008, 03:10 PM

steamy unprotected animal sex

:whee:

I feel so emotionally attached that I now need a shower....

DJSteel

11-17-2008, 03:33 PM

funny.. but like I said..if there isn't a decent story, you are not going to get me to play more...

crystalklear64

11-17-2008, 05:06 PM

Alright, I finally decided to actually buy it. I'll be playing come midnight :)

darthbudge

11-17-2008, 05:11 PM

Anybody want to get a group to play together Tomorrow afternoon/evening? I am picking my copy up at gamestop, so I can't play until like 3PM CST or so, but I would love to get a CAG group together.

necrojustice

11-17-2008, 05:29 PM

That's gotta be the greatest backstory ever.
Valve should license your pictorals and backstory.

plasticbathmonki

11-17-2008, 05:35 PM

Circuit City has it listed for $40. I'm still going to get it tomorrow, but hopefully I can save a few bucks. :)

space_monkey

11-17-2008, 06:48 PM

I gotta wait for Amazon to deliver it but I'll be out of town for the first few days anyway. Looking forward to it but I'm still a little concerned at the size of the game. Since there were 2 maps in the co-op demo and supposedly 20 in the full version, I've already played 10% of the game... (not counting the versus zombie play obviously) But I suppose that since I play basically a handful of maps on Counter-Strike and TF2 that 20 maps is actually quite a few...

One last question that I wanted to confirm... PC and Xbox users are unable to play each other and the 2 platforms multiplayer servers are mutually exclusive correct?

Serik

11-17-2008, 08:41 PM

One last question that I wanted to confirm... PC and Xbox users are unable to play each other and the 2 platforms multiplayer servers are mutually exclusive correct?

Correct.

crystalklear64

11-17-2008, 10:53 PM

5 hours till game time!

grndoom

11-18-2008, 12:31 AM

Bump. Half hour-ish left.

crystalklear64

11-18-2008, 01:18 AM

hooray! i'll be on as soon as this update finishes.

NamPaehc

11-18-2008, 03:14 AM

I don't know whats up with the demo "locking", can't get it to load any more. Kind of odd for a demo, though I haven't used steam very much so maybe that is normal?

Regardless I'm 95% sure I'm getting this too, just wanted one more night to see if I was really into it. Don't have many PC games, but I've been looking forward to this for a while.

DrFoo

11-18-2008, 03:45 AM

Damn versus mode is fun. Pouncing on stragglers and mauling them to death never gets old. Well, at least not in the 2 hours I've played it.

hero101

11-18-2008, 08:17 AM

Yahoo. I finished downloading the game.

munch

11-18-2008, 08:28 AM

Yahoo. I finished downloading the game.

Awesome! I'm about to check my e-mail.

crystalklear64

11-18-2008, 12:33 PM

Blazed through the first campaign a few times last night, once with SoSTrooper, good times.

I tried it on my own once I knew what to do on advanced and it takes about 45 minutes to beat the campaign.

SOSTrooper

11-18-2008, 07:32 PM

I might run thru the first campaign again tonight with a friend of mine. Probably going to set it to expert difficulty hehe.

darthbudge

11-18-2008, 08:23 PM

Alright, I picked up the game today at Gamestop and I am installing it now. Anybody want to play some?

doctorfaustus

11-18-2008, 10:29 PM

Where do you go to accept game invites in steam? When I log in, I'm notified that someone wants to be my friend, but I can't seem to be able to add them.

Baron O Hell

11-18-2008, 10:50 PM

Where do you go to accept game invites in steam? When I log in, I'm notified that someone wants to be my friend, but I can't seem to be able to add them.

Go to the community section and then click on the overview tab.

crystalklear64

11-19-2008, 11:36 AM

So dayum jawesome.

Beat No Mecy on expert yesterday. Tried Death Toll on advanced for hours an hours, but just could not pass the finale.

NamPaehc

11-20-2008, 12:18 PM

I'm infected by this game, really grows on you.

Only bad thing is when you've been playing with a good group, then go to play another game with strangers it can be a real let down!

crystalklear64

11-20-2008, 12:31 PM

Or when you've been playing with AI and then hero101 joins your game!

The multiplayer is excellent. They did a great job of making you want to play as the zombies. Requires team coordination just like the survivors and you have the added bonus of being able to see where the survivors are at all times meaning that you lose that sense of having to watch out from all sides and can focus purely on concentrating to take out those survivors!

You can also pull bs like using a boom to start a horde then pounce/tongue drag 3 of the survivors so they can't do shit.

On the flip side, it kinda sucks being the survivors, though it certainly makes it more challenging.

hero101

11-20-2008, 02:18 PM

I think it would have been fun to play as the witch but she is ultra powerful.

eswat

11-20-2008, 02:28 PM

If you could play the Witch, I doubt you'd stay in your corner drowning in your own sobbing like the AI does.

Though they could probably put in some mechanic where, the longer you stay still crying your heart out, the more damage you'll do when you leap. But who wants to spend a level crying? :P

Also, spawning a Witch in a narrow corridor in Versus = lame.