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xtchuh
09-06-2004, 12:04 PM
Is it safe in a way that you won't get all caught up in these legal issues. I've been using Suprnova as of late, and I heard that it is because your ip doesnt show up, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks in advance.

Sartori
09-06-2004, 12:06 PM
I heard that it is because your ip doesnt show up,

Oh but it does.

vanlandw
09-06-2004, 12:13 PM
there are some "security" issues with doing almost anything on the internet.

make sure your virus defs are up to date and you have a strong firewall/router config and you should be fine...

xtchuh
09-06-2004, 12:17 PM
Virus don't really worry me as I have some many virus defending programs running at one time. It's just I dont want to get "Caught"

Scorch
09-06-2004, 12:21 PM
Uh, no, they're not. Half the people getting busted are using torrents. Everyone that is using the torrent's IP shows up. MPAA busts a lot of people because of stuff they download via torrents.

You know, you really should www.fuckinggoogleit.com

xtchuh
09-06-2004, 12:30 PM
is there a way to hide your ip?

int80h
09-06-2004, 12:30 PM
IRC and usenet are the legaly safest ways to get questionable material.

is there a way to hide your ip?

Proxies. But I don't think you can use bit torrent through a proxy. Another option is to connect to someone's unsecure wireless access point.

Scorch
09-06-2004, 12:31 PM
is there a way to hide your ip?

...

obviously not.

xtchuh
09-06-2004, 12:34 PM
Well thanks int80h

saigumi
09-06-2004, 12:34 PM
is there a way to hide your ip?

No. Your IP is like your street address. If your connecting to another PC, it has to know where to send the data.

Now, I know someone's gonna jump on this and say that there is a way via bouncing around your connection and using a mask machine, but anyone persistent enough can backtrail you.

eldad9
09-06-2004, 12:52 PM
is there a way to hide your ip?

No. Your IP is like your street address. If your connecting to another PC, it has to know where to send the data.

Now, I know someone's gonna jump on this and say that there is a way via bouncing around your connection and using a mask machine, but anyone persistent enough can backtrail you.

Not if untracability is built into the protocol itself, for example. (Check out freenet if you don't believe it's possible).

eldad9
09-06-2004, 12:53 PM
Uh, no, they're not. Half the people getting busted are using torrents. Everyone that is using the torrent's IP shows up. MPAA busts a lot of people because of stuff they download via torrents.

You know, you really should www.shaq-fuin.com

As we see again, people who justify the MPAA/RIAA's actions are often liars - and terrible ones at that.

eldad9
09-06-2004, 12:56 PM
Is it safe in a way that you won't get all caught up in these legal issues. I've been using Suprnova as of late, and I heard that it is because your ip doesnt show up, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks in advance.

I believe bittorrent doesn't offer any 'stealth' featurs, so you could, in theory, start downloading and see who you're downloading from, then when the download's complete do it all over again.

But you'd have to monitor each torrent individually.

A better solution for you is just to stop consume MPAA/RIAA content and discover the wealth of alternative content out there.

Starky27
09-06-2004, 12:59 PM
is there a way to hide your ip?

No. Your IP is like your street address. If your connecting to another PC, it has to know where to send the data.

Now, I know someone's gonna jump on this and say that there is a way via bouncing around your connection and using a mask machine, but anyone persistent enough can backtrail you.

There are programs out there that prevent known IPs from connecting to your machine and vice versa...

eldad9
09-06-2004, 01:00 PM
There are programs out there that prevent known IPs from connecting to your machine and vice versa...

True, but you can never tell if you have an exhaustive list of "bad" addresses.

ElwoodCuse
09-06-2004, 01:02 PM
Suprnova is the last place you should be downloading from. The RIAA and MPAA are all over it by now, it's almost as bad using the non-lite version of Kazaa.

Scorch
09-06-2004, 01:06 PM
Uh, no, they're not. Half the people getting busted are using torrents. Everyone that is using the torrent's IP shows up. MPAA busts a lot of people because of stuff they download via torrents.

You know, you really should www.shaq-fuin.com

As we see again, people who justify the MPAA/RIAA's actions are often liars - and terrible ones at that.

Uh, what? I never justified anything of theirs. I haven't bought a CD in years and I haven't bought a DVD in months.

And you really SHOULD use google. People were busted for downloading the 2Fast2Furious XViD DVDRIP.. the 5ch one.. a while back.

I don't justify anything, so don't try to make me look like some goody two shoes.

eldad9
09-06-2004, 01:14 PM
I'd love the see the source for that "Half the people getting busted are using torrents" remark.

sblymnlcrymnl
09-06-2004, 01:19 PM
File sharing should be reserved for game demos and pornography.

eldad9
09-06-2004, 01:50 PM
File sharing should be reserved for game demos and pornography.

And by that, you actually mean "material which isn't copyright or is being shared with the consent of the copyright holder".

Remember practically all pornography is copyrighted, so sharing it is exactly as legal as sharing any hollywood blockbuster.

And there are other uses, of course. Sharing operating systems, congress speeches, books...

Scorch
09-06-2004, 01:52 PM
I'd love the see the source for that "Half the people getting busted are using torrents" remark.

Yeah, I lied about that. But there have been some people getting busted for downloading movies via torrents.

xzafixz
09-06-2004, 01:53 PM
Is it safe in a way that you won't get all caught up in these legal issues. I've been using Suprnova as of late, and I heard that it is because your ip doesnt show up, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks in advance.

You're an idiot.

sblymnlcrymnl
09-06-2004, 01:56 PM
File sharing should be reserved for game demos and pornography.

And by that, you actually mean "material which isn't copyright or is being shared with the consent of the copyright holder".

Remember practically all pornography is copyrighted, so sharing it is exactly as legal as sharing any hollywood blockbuster.

And there are other uses, of course. Sharing operating systems, congress speeches, books...

Yeah, the porn part was an attempt at comedy.

The only torrent site I use is filerush (www.filerush.com).

GuilewasNK
09-06-2004, 02:52 PM
Also, the RIAA is going after those who share HUGE collections. There are billions of people in the world and 10's of millions that used some form of P2P. You have to REALLY draw attention to yourself to get noticed.

eldad9
09-06-2004, 04:30 PM
Yeah, I lied about that. But there have been some people getting busted for downloading movies via torrents.

Link please.

By "busted" do you actually mean "were warned by their own ISP"?

Remember, ISPs don't like file sharers because they pretty much max out their allocated bandwidth.

Final Starman
09-06-2004, 04:37 PM
BT is probably the least safe way to get stuff because it's very easy to see the IPs of everyone connected to the tracker if you know the basics of using a client like Burst! or Azureus.