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djsilke
11-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Infinite Undiscovery Amazon $27.97 http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Undiscovery-Xbox-360/dp/B00149NCYW/ref=sr_tr_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1227034445&sr=8-1
bzchanboy
11-18-2008, 02:58 PM
Special Edition is $29.97 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001D3NPY6/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
Includes extra content and foil packaging.
Pck21
11-18-2008, 02:59 PM
Tempting...thanks OP!
Edit: Does anyone think this game is worth $30 to add to a long back log or should I wait on it?
oscargrouch
11-18-2008, 03:04 PM
Wow this is dropping quickly.
Vinny
11-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Wow this is dropping quickly.
Yeah, seriously... but it got some pretty bad reviews and opinions so I'll keep waiting.
BarbblerElf
11-18-2008, 03:12 PM
I've played this for a few days but Then I returned it to gamestop. I think I'll get it when its $20. I don't think it is worth more than that.
gkrykewy
11-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Damn, lower than the DOTD pricing so quickly!
blitz6speed
11-18-2008, 03:29 PM
Its pretty awful, like the majority of the 360's RPGs. Im going to force myself to finish it soon just to nuke it from my hard drive.
Pck21
11-18-2008, 03:31 PM
Its pretty awful, like the majority of the 360's RPGs. Im going to force myself to finish it soon just to nuke it from my hard drive.
Wow that's harsh. Is it really that bad? I picked Tales of Vesperia over this game a few months back and I'm glad I did, but I still want to play this game. Guess I'll wait for the $20 price point then...
Xiemos
11-18-2008, 03:31 PM
I seriously regret buying this game on release for $57 on Amazon (lucky I saved at least a few bucks from my quick picks).
Not only have I not opened the game yet due to my backlog, but because of the reviews. Getting tired of playing the same JRPG cliche story with the same cliche characters.
Definitely waiting for the Last Remnant to drop to around this price before buying.
gkrykewy
11-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Its pretty awful, like the majority of the 360's RPGs. Im going to force myself to finish it soon just to nuke it from my hard drive.
Don't hate - there are a number of solid to very good RPGs on 360. Definitely the RPG system of this console gen, although that isn't saying much given the RPG shift to portables.
MSI Magus
11-18-2008, 03:38 PM
I think people here are being WAY harsh. First off the games reviews were not bad they were average. This game ranged in the 7.0-8.5 range hardly bad. It sits at a 6.9 at gamerankings but if you look 2 sites I doubt anyone has ever heard of that scored it horribly low(5.0)are what is pulling its average score down. People here at the topic in it also said it was meh but far from bad and that they had fun with it.
Second to say the 360's RPGs have all been crap could only come from someone insane. The Western ones like Fallout and Morrowind have been meet with 9.0+ praise and then you look at the newer JRPGs like Eternal Sonata and ToV and your getting 8.0-9.0 worthy JRPGs.
gkrykewy
11-18-2008, 03:40 PM
Second to say the 360's RPGs have all been crap could only come from someone insane. The Western ones like Fallout and Morrowind have been meet with 9.0+ praise and then you look at the newer JRPGs like Eternal Sonata and ToV and your getting 8.0-9.0 worthy JRPGs.
Plus I'm currently halfway through Lost Odyssey, and it's excellent. Best FF I've played since X ;).
artego
11-18-2008, 03:40 PM
It's not an awful RPG at all. It's stronger than the likes of Eternal Sonata or Spectral Forces or something.
People just like to hate for various biased reasons. If you're an experienced tri-Ace and action RPG fan, there's nothing to hate about it.
zenintrude
11-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Since Magus is back out touting the game, I will once again post my thoughts on the game... stolen from myself circa the last time this game dropped:
Here's an example of how bad the writing is in the game:
You show up in a town with a girl who had just passed out for mysterious reasons, and the first people you run into are two Children of the Corn™, who (despite your best efforts) refuse to believe who you are. They then invite your random ass into their house where they blather on about whatever NPCs do until their mother jumps out of a closet (I'm being facetious, but she does jump out of nowhere) to finish one of their sentences. She rambles on about how dangerous the area has become and how her husband went to the local shrine and hasn't been heard from in days.
Then she asks you to go save him and... wait for it... tells you to take her children with you. TO THE PLACE WHERE HER HUSBAND WENT AND NEVER RETURNED FROM. Oh, and one of the kids can talk to animals, a skill that is never expounded upon nor questioned by anyone.
I quit after finishing that quest because it was a gigantic piece of cliche shit that ended in a room that gave you little to no indication as to what to do next (pro tip: you play one of your flutes next to a wall in the back of the shrine to reveal a secret passageway... brilliant!)
Here's a list of atrocities carried out by the game in the 2 hours or so I played it:
- Stealth Mission
- Breaking out of prison with no intent of helping other unjustly imprisoned people
- New armor does not show up on character
- NPC drops visible key in cut scene, becomes invisible in game
- Campfire scene in a Bubble of Protection™
- NPC in party hates you irrationally
- NPCs abandon you right before an area with a Ridiculously Overpowered Dragon™, a dragon that the townspeople in the area immediately next to don't seem to know is there
The voice acting is bad, the graphics are average, and the story feels like it was cobbled together from every RPG cliche ever made. They must have named it Infinite Undiscovery because RPG: The Game would have tipped their hand just a little too much.
$60 is ludicrous, but $30 is still absurd for this game. It is simply NOT GOOD. The only thing that is marginally working for it is the fact that Tri-Ace makes some of the better battle systems for RPGs, but that is it.
squall211
11-18-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm playing through the game now. I bought it for $25 shipped off of Ebay. If you like RPGs, and don't mind that this is a average title, than 25-30 bucks isn't a bad price.
oscargrouch
11-18-2008, 03:43 PM
I think I'll hold out for $20. Hopefully Golden Axe Beast Rider will be the next price cut.
ivanctorres
11-18-2008, 03:45 PM
I need another game like I need a whole in my head so Ill pass but very good deal.
BarbblerElf
11-18-2008, 03:45 PM
I also don't like the cut scenes. It will be 30 sec cutscene with voice acting then it will be 2 min of just text bubbles. The battle system is pretty good. The achievements are kind of bad. Like one isGet as much money possible (like 999,999,999 or w/e it is) at one time, not All-time.. Over all it's a decent game but nothing memorable like my other Favorite RPGs. You might have a little fun playing this game but no way in a year are you going to say," Hey I'm in the mood to play Infinite Undiscovery again for the X time through the game."
artego
11-18-2008, 03:48 PM
*Trash*
The first 2 hours of the game are probably the worst for it. Get to Castle Prevant or a bit before that and you'll see what the game truly is: one quick, epic action set piece after another. One of the greatest strengths of the game is once it gets going, it goes.
Not that I'm trying to convince you, I just don't want your junk confusing others. As I've said, if you're an experienced tri-Ace and action RPG fan, there's nothing to hate about it. If you were expecting it to be the next thing in JRPGs, they you were just completely stupid, because you did not understand the people behind it at all.
squall211
11-18-2008, 03:50 PM
<<<Here's a list of atrocities carried out by the game in the 2 hours or so I played it:
- Stealth Mission
- Breaking out of prison with no intent of helping other unjustly imprisoned people
- New armor does not show up on character
- NPC drops visible key in cut scene, becomes invisible in game
- Campfire scene in a Bubble of Protection™
- NPC in party hates you irrationally
- NPCs abandon you right before an area with a Ridiculously Overpowered Dragon™, a dragon that the townspeople in the area immediately next to don't seem to know is there>>>
Almost all of your gripes about the game occur within the first 1-2 hours of play. After that, the games is EXCEPTIONALLY better.
And, just so I understand you, one of your complaints is that one of your party members doesn't like you right off the bat? Have you played through the game? I haven't finished it yet, but I've gotten far enough to see where this character's anger comes from. It's far from irrational.
Is this game a AAA title? Far from it. Do the first couple hours suck horribly? Yep. Is the rest of the game worth sticking around for? Absolutely.
mythus
11-18-2008, 03:58 PM
i wouldn't play this game ever again. This was really a bad title along side w/ enchanted arms. If you want a good 360 rpg, ToV or LO.
Pck21
11-18-2008, 04:06 PM
Damn it seems like there are so many opinions on this game from both sides. I won't bite at the $30 price but maybe at $20 and definitely below that.
kazunori
11-18-2008, 04:09 PM
Damn, not sure if I should bite now. I'm only halfway through Lost Odyssey, with Tales of Vesperia on the shelf and Last Remnant pre-ordered.
I know I will get this eventually, and the price is likely to drop to $20 before I've finished with the other 360 RPGs..
SkeletonBrute
11-18-2008, 04:11 PM
Tempting... but I'm gonna hold off for at least another drop. Thanks OP
Vangerdahast
11-18-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm waitin' for $20 also, but based on the GOOD reviews(as in 7-8.5 range) I am looking forward to it. I enjoyed Enchanted Arms and thought it was a 7. I agree with the ratings for Eternal Sonata and recently beat it. Lost Odyssey is the best JRPG and a 9, in my opinion. Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Fallout are all 9+ in my book.
wakawakawa
11-18-2008, 04:24 PM
I bought it for like $25 or so new off ebay.
I've played it for 4 hours. It's definately subpar, but some people may still have fun with it. It's shelved right now, because I'm having more fun playing other games. I'll probably get back to it sometime.
ToV, Lost O, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Fallout3 completely outclass this game, imo.
Serpentor
11-18-2008, 04:34 PM
Thanks OP, i'll wait till it's under $20 also...
sometimes it's not about the reviews, to me anything above 7 out 10 is consider worth to check out. However, it's those little anal things in the game that pull you back (make no sense missions, the flute thing is really bothering me, i haven't play the game, but from reading the experience, i already wanna give up). While i agree with the notion that you shouldn't judge the game just by the first two hours. This is so true if i don't have other things to do and bills to pay... Two hours! That's a lot of times... If you can't hook on the game by then, it's difficult to like a game/story. Of course, if it's something you purchased for cheap, at least you can say, well, luckily i didn't spent $60 for it...
MSI Magus
11-18-2008, 05:13 PM
1. I like how someone said "Since Magus is out touting this game again". So freaking stupid.....seeing as I dont FUCKING OWN THE GAME, HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT AND THUS CANT SAY IF IT IS GOOD! I was just pointing out that plenty of people have said they liked the game and most reviews are on the positive side, so chances are anyone calling it trash is a moron that is nit picking the game to death as is often done of average RPGs such as Star Ocean. Just looking at your complaints I feel more valid in saying this seeing as you list stupid shit like you escape from prison and dont save other prisoners as a con of the game.......
2. Forgot Lost Odyseey again another quality 360 RPG.
3. Like most people I am waiting to get this game at $20 or under as I do with most games under $20.
willardhaven
11-18-2008, 05:17 PM
For Tri-Ace fans, this is a deal.
For most people who have nothing to play, $28 is a great price for a decent game delivered to your door. If you're an RPG fan who's played everything, why not just try it and sell it if you dislike it?
robbart914
11-18-2008, 05:22 PM
Wow that is one quick price drop. Wouldn't be surprised to see this vanish until it gets an actual price drop 6+ months from now. But then I wouldn't be surprised if 29.99 became the universal price either. Sad for people who paid $60 for it though.
mxpowar
11-18-2008, 05:26 PM
Huge backlog= waiting for drop to $20. End of story.
Lord_Kefka
11-18-2008, 05:26 PM
If I didn't get this during the B2G1F-reduced to $40 sale at TRU I'd bite.
robbart914
11-18-2008, 05:40 PM
For most people who have nothing to play,
Seriously, I want to know who this is, because this holiday season is killer. I'm two months back (discounting stuff from prior seasons I still need to play) and like 50 good games have hit in those two months. Best holiday season for gaming in a long while.
squall211
11-18-2008, 05:48 PM
Seriously, I want to know who this is, because this holiday season is killer. I'm two months back (discounting stuff from prior seasons I still need to play) and like 50 good games have hit in those two months. Best holiday season for gaming in a long while.
lol no kidding. My backlog is probably at about 20-25 games, and that doesn't include games I absolutely want to give a second playthrough to, like Tales of Vesperia.
willardhaven
11-18-2008, 06:01 PM
I worded that strangely, I meant almost all of the people who have run out of games to play.
The group is probably small, but my point stands.
artego
11-18-2008, 06:22 PM
However, it's those little anal things in the game that pull you back (make no sense missions, the flute thing is really bothering me, i haven't play the game, but from reading the experience, i already wanna give up). While
The missions only make no sense if you're mindless. You'll always know where to go, and it's usually a straight way to there. No 'get this item to unlock this place to continue the plot' thing.
I've had to use the flute for the plot like three times through the game. All the other times are to get secret treasures, but it's not hard to find those nor required to.
MSI Magus
11-18-2008, 06:26 PM
Seriously, I want to know who this is, because this holiday season is killer. I'm two months back (discounting stuff from prior seasons I still need to play) and like 50 good games have hit in those two months. Best holiday season for gaming in a long while.
Those of us who are smart enough to not buy every game the day it comes out knowing that in just a few months they will be $20 or under. This is a great holiday season but you would be stupid to be buying games new knowing I can get them on the cheap just a few months.
bigdaddybruce44
11-18-2008, 06:30 PM
Not for nothing, but the "atrocities: listed earlier in this thread are things you pretty much see throughout the RPG genre. If you don't like the genre that's fine, but you can't blame IU for doing things a lot of other games do, as well. I got this from GF the other day, but I have been wrapped up in Resistance 2. Maybe I will pop this in while I do the treadmill tonight.
SkylineChili4Me
11-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Move over, Blitz: The League II, we have a new winnah for fastest price drop of all time!
guessed
11-18-2008, 07:26 PM
Move over, Blitz: The League II, we have a new winnah for fastest price drop of all time!
I'm pretty sure that title still belongs to Beyond Good & Evil.
bojay1997
11-18-2008, 09:37 PM
I'm pretty sure that title still belongs to Beyond Good & Evil.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it was Beowulf. It dropped from $60 to $20 within three weeks of release and it was a universal drop, unlike this situation where it varies by retailer.
earvcunanan
11-18-2008, 09:56 PM
Wow... blitz goes into every 360 RPG deal topic here [it seems] and trashes on the RPGs that are on the 360. He was on the Last Remnant Amazon topic the other day to trash the game and even bring up Valkyria Chronicles when it wasn't even mentioned. Hmmm...
tenn_volsfan
11-18-2008, 09:57 PM
I think I'll hold out for $20. Hopefully Golden Axe Beast Rider will be the next price cut.
Now THAT is one terrible, terrible game.
Back to the topic at hand, I'm considering IU at this price, but my backlog is excessive to say the least. I really enjoyed Enchanted Arms, also given many sub-par scores, so I bet I'd enjoy this JRPG as well.
earvcunanan
11-18-2008, 09:57 PM
Actually, I'm pretty sure it was Beowulf. It dropped from $60 to $20 within three weeks of release and it was a universal drop, unlike this situation where it varies by retailer.
It's Blitz II. The price dropped from $60 to $40 in a week.
guessed
11-18-2008, 10:02 PM
Actually, I'm pretty sure it was Beowulf. It dropped from $60 to $20 within three weeks of release and it was a universal drop, unlike this situation where it varies by retailer.
That's a 66% drop, BG&E was an 80% drop ($50 to $10) in about 7 weeks, I think, maybe less.
Allnatural
11-19-2008, 01:19 AM
I'm about 20 hours into it and I must admit I am enjoying it. Certainly not one of tri-Ace's stronger efforts, but a decent game all the same. Worked out to about $33 at TRUs B2G1 sale and I don't regret it one bit.
NDPsycho
11-19-2008, 02:13 AM
I bought it on release and didn't think it was a terrible game at $60. It is certainly a fine game at $30. It isn't mind blowing. It isn't the deepest story, but it is enjoyable. If you like playing JRPG's, you should find some fun here. If you're an RPG snob or only play 'leet' games that score 9.5-10, you probably won't like it. But then again, you probably don't find much enjoyment in anything if you're that kind of person anyway.
blitz6speed
11-19-2008, 07:29 AM
Wow... blitz goes into every 360 RPG deal topic here [it seems] and trashes on the RPGs that are on the 360. He was on the Last Remnant Amazon topic the other day to trash the game and even bring up Valkyria Chronicles when it wasn't even mentioned. Hmmm...
Ive played every 360 RPG, so its not like im talking out of thin air like many others are. Check my gamertag for games played. If people want to call the 360 the RPG System this gen, then RPGs are literally dead as a doornail this gen. There still isnt a high quality RPG to stand on its own, although i had a good time with Blue Dragon, its not going to appeal to most people.
wampa8jedi
11-19-2008, 07:59 AM
I thought the game was great, and far, far better than the bashers let on--I've posted my thoughts, in great detail, in previous IU threads.
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 08:48 AM
Ive played every 360 RPG, so its not like im talking out of thin air like many others are. Check my gamertag for games played. If people want to call the 360 the RPG System this gen, then RPGs are literally dead as a doornail this gen. There still isnt a high quality RPG to stand on its own, although i had a good time with Blue Dragon, its not going to appeal to most people.
Who the hell are you to speak for RPGers? You say check your gamer tag well check my damn collection and the 100s of RPGs I own. Look at the sig for the fact that I have 3 tattoos of RPGs. I am not trying to get into a pissing contest here, just saying whenever you try to someone can always out do you. Just because you feel like this gen's RPGs are dead as a door nail doesnt mean the rest of us do. Am I compltly thrilled with this gen for RPGs? No...... However I am very happy with it. Look at last gen and its first 2 years of RPGs were they amazing? No not really it wasnt till FFX hit in the second year that things really started to pick up. Now realize that the 360 is JUST entering its third year and the PS3 and Wii their second. Then realize that regardless of if you like them or not that there are quite a few games like Eternal Sonata, LO and Disgaea 3 out that have been enjoyed or even loved by people this gen.....and yes even us experienced RPGers.
blitz6speed
11-19-2008, 09:10 AM
Who the hell are you to speak for RPGers? You say check your gamer tag well check my damn collection and the 100s of RPGs I own. Look at the sig for the fact that I have 3 tattoos of RPGs. I am not trying to get into a pissing contest here, just saying whenever you try to someone can always out do you. Just because you feel like this gen's RPGs are dead as a door nail doesnt mean the rest of us do. Am I compltly thrilled with this gen for RPGs? No...... However I am very happy with it. Look at last gen and its first 2 years of RPGs were they amazing? No not really it wasnt till FFX hit in the second year that things really started to pick up. Now realize that the 360 is JUST entering its third year and the PS3 and Wii their second. Then realize that regardless of if you like them or not that there are quite a few games like Eternal Sonata, LO and Disgaea 3 out that have been enjoyed or even loved by people this gen.....and yes even us experienced RPGers.
I would say i am a huge RPG lover, more-so then most people, i started out with Dragon Warrior 1 on NES and been playing them since. Just because there is a lack of RPGs this gen, that doesnt mean that games like IU and TLR are any good. Get over it.
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 09:23 AM
I would say i am a huge RPG lover, more-so then most people, i started out with Dragon Warrior 1 on NES and been playing them since. Just because there is a lack of RPGs this gen, that doesnt mean that games like IU and TLR are any good. Get over it.
Last post ill make and then I am just going to assume your a hard head and completely unreachable. As I tried warning you, dont get into pissing contests because there will always be someone more experienced then yet. I too got into RPGs on the NES with DQ. I can remember sitting at my brothers 1st grade musical reading my Nintendo Power studying on the different monsters. I have played almost every RPG from the last several gens and I dont just mean the pop ones I mean the rare and unheard of stuff like Ephemeral Phantasia and Paladins Quest and even the stuff never released in the US that received fan translations like Bahamut Lagoon. Thats just JRPGs you can then get into PC games where I have the same experience but even own indy releases like Shadow Flare that most have never heard of.
Dont assume you have more experience then others, and certainly dont assume your experience means your opinions are worth more then others. You can bitch and moan all you want that the games this gen are no good but I(someone that even if it doesnt matter as I have shown here probally have as much if not much more experience then you)many others and most of the reviews show that your just a small bitter % that cant recognize how wrong you are.
/close discussion
Wolfpup
11-19-2008, 10:29 AM
Not only have I not opened the game yet due to my backlog, but because of the reviews. Getting tired of playing the same JRPG cliche story with the same cliche characters.
I am too. Seriously, why do most Japanese RPGs have such boring, cliched stories? Why don't they write something interesting first? I'm not necessarily saying anything about this game since I haven't played it, but...
And...the second day in a row I'm tempted by an RPG on here. Yesterday it was Brave Story. The only Tri Ace game I've played is Valkyrie Profile and it's remake, and I disliked both fairly strongly, so I'm assuming I should skip this (?). I more prefer turn based RPGs anyway (and if you're going to be an action RPG, use a mechanic I like, like Mass Effect did...)
Its pretty awful, like the majority of the 360's RPGs. Im going to force myself to finish it soon just to nuke it from my hard drive.
Well the majority of RPGs period are pretty generic and dull IMO. At least the 360 has TWO Sakaguchi games. Blue Dragon's story is mostly kinda dull (though it has it's moments) though the gameplay is still strong. Lost Odyssey, though...
Plus I'm currently halfway through Lost Odyssey, and it's excellent. Best FF I've played since X ;).
Yeah. It absolutely registers as a Final Fantasy/Sakaguchi game (Blue Dragon too). I have some issues with it that keep me from liking it as well as Final Fantasy 9 or 10, and maybe even some of the others, but it's still must-play if you like Sakaguchi's stuff, or probably Japanese RPGs in general.
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 10:55 AM
I am too. Seriously, why do most Japanese RPGs have such boring, cliched stories? Why don't they write something interesting first? I'm not necessarily saying anything about this game since I haven't played it, but...
And...the second day in a row I'm tempted by an RPG on here. Yesterday it was Brave Story. The only Tri Ace game I've played is Valkyrie Profile and it's remake, and I disliked both fairly strongly, so I'm assuming I should skip this (?). I more prefer turn based RPGs anyway (and if you're going to be an action RPG, use a mechanic I like, like Mass Effect did...)
It is kind of hard to say what Tri Ace games you will or wont like. Personally I didnt care for VP and LOATHED VP2, SO1 was also pretty meh. Meanwhile Star Ocean 2 is one of my fav games ever and SO TtEoT may not have been the most amazing but I found it enjoyable.
IMO Tri Ace is a good developer.......but their games are kind of all over and there is no binding theme or style.
blitz6speed
11-19-2008, 11:03 AM
Last post ill make and then I am just going to assume your a hard head and completely unreachable. As I tried warning you, dont get into pissing contests because there will always be someone more experienced then yet. I too got into RPGs on the NES with DQ. I can remember sitting at my brothers 1st grade musical reading my Nintendo Power studying on the different monsters. I have played almost every RPG from the last several gens and I dont just mean the pop ones I mean the rare and unheard of stuff like Ephemeral Phantasia and Paladins Quest and even the stuff never released in the US that received fan translations like Bahamut Lagoon. Thats just JRPGs you can then get into PC games where I have the same experience but even own indy releases like Shadow Flare that most have never heard of.
Dont assume you have more experience then others, and certainly dont assume your experience means your opinions are worth more then others. You can bitch and moan all you want that the games this gen are no good but I(someone that even if it doesnt matter as I have shown here probally have as much if not much more experience then you)many others and most of the reviews show that your just a small bitter % that cant recognize how wrong you are.
/close discussion
Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.
And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.
Wolfpup
11-19-2008, 11:08 AM
Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.
And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.
I feel the same way ab out Blue Dragon. The story was weak (but had it's moments) but the gameplay was rock solid Sakaguchi. Lost Odyssey though combines the rock solid gameplay with a good story too...although for a fan like me I had to play both :)
And boy did that Xbox VGA cable Microsoft sells come in handy for the random leveling up! hee hee hee :D
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 11:33 AM
Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.
And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.
Did I say that every RPG is worth playing? No, I just pointed out how moronic it is to call a game trash when so many like it and it got decent reviews. Anyone that isnt a complete child can see quality in a halfway decent game if they just freaking try. I have disliked every 3D Zelda.....yet I am still able to see why they are such quality titles. And a better example would be Skies of Arcadia....I LOATHED that game, but I could see why it got average reviews atleast and why some people were fans of it. You should be able to do the same with IU and instead of acting like a 5 year old tossing a tantrum because he dislikes something instead be able to say meh I hated this game but I can see where others might like it.
And again you proove what a child you are by saying it bombed in reviews. A 7 is not a bomb and again if you discount the few hack no name child review sites and just go by gametrailers, IGN, EGM and the other pros in the industry it shoots up to mid 7 to 8 range. Hardly a bomb. The only people that see it as a bomb are children that cant set aside their own biased views.
*smacks himself for wasting time on another post on children*
And Blue Dragon is underrated but its a joke to call it an excellent RPG or say its game play was amazing. The game play had all the right elements to be amazing but the balance of the game was just so completely out of wack. It was way too freaking easy most of the game then later on a few of the bosses were just insane. The skills also tended to come way to fast then way to slow. But hey you can only recognize your own view.....so ya guess it wont matter you will just go off on a rant about how your experienced and thus everyone else is wrong.
cranguy
11-19-2008, 11:38 AM
D'oh... should've waited for the limited edition price to drop.
If anyone wants to sell the print that comes with the LE for a few bucks, please PM me.
GuardianE
11-19-2008, 11:41 AM
Anyone who either praises or hates this game without playing it is a moron and should be ignored in this thread. I don't care how much of a genre specific fan you are. And you can't base your judgment solely on reviewers and hype. If you haven't played the game, just stfu.
On a more relevant note, I see this game continuing to drop and I'm still in the middle of Vesperia (which is a beautiful game, btw) so I'll wait. If you need an RPG fix, though, this seems like a pretty decent deal.
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 11:48 AM
Anyone who either praises or hates this game without playing it is a moron and should be ignored in this thread. I don't care how much of a genre specific fan you are. And you can't base your judgment solely on reviewers and hype. If you haven't played the game, just stfu.
On a more relevant note, I see this game continuing to drop and I'm still in the middle of Vesperia (which is a beautiful game, btw) so I'll wait. If you need an RPG fix, though, this seems like a pretty decent deal.
While you cant judge something on reviews in the sense of knowing exactly how good it is or fit to your liking, you can use it as a general indicator of quality. Reviews are generally within a point or so of the score the game deserves and I find often less then that.
I dont know if you were targeting that comment at me or someone else, but personally I am not trying to judge the game. That was the whole point. I took exception to saying that every RPG this generation is trash and when you make such a stupid statement then well its kinda easy to assume that ya your opinions on IU are probably too harsh and reviews fair.
GuardianE
11-19-2008, 11:54 AM
I dont know if you were targeting that comment at me or someone else, but personally I am not trying to judge the game. That was the whole point. I took exception to saying that every RPG this generation is trash and when you make such a stupid statement then well its kinda easy to assume that ya your opinions on IU are probably too harsh and reviews fair.
I realize that my post was ambiguous, and that was intentional. But regardless, no, I was not targeting you.
blitz6speed
11-19-2008, 11:58 AM
I realize that my post was ambiguous, and that was intentional. But regardless, no, I was not targeting you.
I own IU.
Pck21
11-19-2008, 12:00 PM
Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?
GuardianE
11-19-2008, 12:02 PM
I own IU.
U own I.
But like I said, I trust most CAGs over singular reviewers (especially IGN). Hype and reviews mean diddly to me. Now, metacritic scores on the other hand can be an okay indication.
Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?
In my opinion, and I haven't played the game, but if you have a decent backlog and are involved in ToV right now, there's really no rush to pick up IU. It will likely drop further by the time you actually want to get around to playing it.
Now, if you have some need to pick it up with the Amazon bonus package or whatever, that might change things, but otherwise I would wait.
Wolfpup
11-19-2008, 12:02 PM
If you haven't played many RPGs, I'd start with known great ones. Lunar 1 and 2, Final Fantasy 6-10, Chrono Trigger, and on the Western side stuff like Mass Effect.
robbart914
11-19-2008, 12:02 PM
Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?
Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.
GuardianE
11-19-2008, 12:05 PM
Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.
Or they'll remake it on a portable system. :roll: Effin Square.
blitz6speed
11-19-2008, 12:08 PM
Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.
The shipped 410k copies and it sold less then 130k of them worldwide, the majority of the copies where shipped here in the US as well, so just wait and it will plummet even more very quickly.
MSI Magus
11-19-2008, 12:10 PM
Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?
I havnt played it but I say wait for a price drop. I am working through ToV right now too(think I am about 65-75% through)and have a few other games like Devil May Cry 4 and Suikoden V sitting on the shelf. Whats the point in buying another game when you have a back log as it stands? Especially what is the point whenever the game you would be buying isnt AAA and likely to drop in price.
Again I havnt played it but I say wait and by the time you are done with your back log it will probaly be a $10-$15 game.
Pck21
11-19-2008, 12:20 PM
Awesome, thanks for the opinions and inputs everyone! I'll go ahead and wait on it I guess. I'm not a huge RPG fan and I barely have time to play such epic games with the little time I have between full time school, work, gf, etc.
BarbblerElf
11-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Just seen that it is 19 at amazon on friday. Im going to pick it up. Its decent at that price.
Seems like 2 versions on sale.
Game only is $19
Game + preorder pack/code is $20
BarbblerElf
11-27-2008, 08:59 PM
Seems like 2 versions on sale.
Game only is $19
Game + preorder pack/code is $20
Yeah i think im getting the 20 one. Idk what it comes with but for 1 why not
Vcize
11-27-2008, 09:24 PM
What does the preorder pack/code contain?
EDIT: Nevermind, Amazon describes it:
Order Bonus
Order today and receive a limited foil print, as well as a download code to unlock your choice of five different in-game items that affect your character's growth and abilities. Foil and code will be packed with the game. Offer good while supplies last. Promotion valid only when sold and shipped by Amazon.com.
xGunCrazyx
11-27-2008, 11:45 PM
Yeah, I haven't played many RPGs in awhile, but for $20, it looks alright
I always liked tri-Ace, so I figure I might as well grab it since it's so cheap :)
Wolfpup
11-28-2008, 12:23 AM
I'm REALLY tempted at $20...but realistically I'm not big on action RPGs, this has really mixed reviews, and I disliked Valkyrie Profile and it's remake.