Persona 4 - $36.99 on Amazon now! (was $34.99)

[Demix500]

http://www.amazon.com/Shin-Megami-Tensei-Persona-4/dp/B001C6GVI6/ref=dp_cp_ob_vg_title_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1226606808&sr=8-1#productPromotions

$2 price drop from $36.99 :hot:

[groundskeeper]

Hmmm...hopefully they update the orders that have already been placed to this price, otherwise I will have to contact them. They usually would have done this by now, but my order has not changed.

[Demix500]

yeah pre-order guarentee will adjust on order date. I think you have to contact them if you use amazon gift card/ balance.

[Capitalizt]

Wow, this is a great deal. I expected this game to be $50..especially with the limited edition stuff.

[erehwon]

How does amazon's pre-order process work? Is it like the NIS's Rosenqueen store where you pay the full price up front or do they only charge you when it ships?

[pete5883]

Charge you when it ships.

[erehwon]

Charge you when it ships.

Thanks.

[LiK]

hmm, they didnt adjust my price yet...

[groundskeeper]

hmm, they didnt adjust my price yet...

I canceled and re ordered. I didn't want to have to remember to contact them later.

[Ryuukishi]

My preorder is still showing $36.99, but I've never had a preorder that didn't correctly adjust eventually. I think it's an automated process.

[LiK]

I canceled and re ordered. I didn't want to have to remember to contact them later.

yea, same here. dont wanna deal with credits and other such nonsense.

[ruibing]

"The order summary in Your Account will reflect the lowest price within 24 hours of the price change." -Amazon's Pre-order Price Guarantee

[groundskeeper]

My preorder is still showing $36.99, but I've never had a preorder that didn't correctly adjust eventually. I think it's an automated process.

I've had two that adjusted and one that did not. Took them about 2 weeks to adjust it after contacting them on the one that did not adjust.

[the_punisher]

This is aweomse. I preordered it before the art book was announced, and now over time i've gotten the soundtrack it comes with, an art book, originally $3 saved, and now another $2. I love amazon :)

[Demix500]

It was in my quick picks before as well so I'll get a discount on top of that :)

[forgot2panic]

Yeah, mine's still not adjusted either. I'll give them the 24 hours, then I might cancel/re-order also. Wonder why they felt the need to drop it further. Preorders not as high as they expected?

[Ryuukishi]

It was in my quick picks before as well so I'll get a discount on top of that :)
That's the way to do it, because the Quick Pick discount will remain fixed at 5% of the original price, no matter how much more the actual price goes down.

[Dr.Nick]

I originally ordered mine back in September with a gold box quick pick discount as well but didn't see the new price applied until today when I thought I had to cancel and re-order. It looks like the gold box discount actually stayed.

I had placed another order for it when it dropped to $36.99 for a friend last week and that order's price hasn't been changed yet, going to assume they apply the credits in order of who ordered the item first.

[Vinny]

Tagging, just in case my price doesn't change.

[Master Shake]

The price changed for me.

[shrike4242]

I just checked my pre-order and it's showing $34.99 as well. I printed a PDF copy of the page, just to be safe.

[hero101]

Price didn't update for me so I canceled my old order and placed a new one. Better safe than sorry I guess.

[Ace_Defective]

My price updated. Persona:4 for $33.24, not too bad.

[coleipoo]

Just preordered. Can't wait to play it. Gotta finish P3 FES though

[Pck21]

I haven't played the Persona series at all. How good is this series compared to other series of the same genre, story, etc?

[Knoxximus]

My price has changed as well.

[cleaver]

My price finally changed.

[bart122580]

I just canceled and reorder. Luckily the ship date remained the same

[Dead of Knight]

My preorder went down to $34.99, plus the Goldbox I had when I initally ordered it was applied also!! So I'm only paying $33 and change. Woot!

[gunm]

Argh, I hate that. My pre-order didn't change price. I will try writing them. :p

[buckythekat]

my order hasn't had the price drop yet, weird you think it would just effect everyone right away

[pete5883]

My pre-order has dropped in price.

[jeremywoods]

hmm my price hasnt changed yet..

[edit]

wait, it got changed. woot :D

[WhiteLens]

Mine got adjusted as well.

[buckythekat]

mine finally adjusted :)

[Slade]

Same, mine was adjusted.

Looks like it'll be a matter of time before everyone's gets adjusted automatically.

[ruibing]

Price changed for me!

[Demix500]

$33.24

[romeogbs19]

given how fast drops are happening for ps2 titles, i'm just holding out until the inevitable price drop. don't care for the artbook so i'll wait til this hits $20.

[bigl523]

My preorder went down to $34.99, plus the Goldbox I had when I initally ordered it was applied also!! So I'm only paying $33 and change. Woot!

ditto.

[UberNinjaz]

Just gave them a quick email & my order number, was taken cared of within 15 minutes.

Getting 2 copies, 1 for me & 1 for...well, keep sealed unless anyone I know still has their PS2 & has interest in Persona.

[xxtheycallmedxx]

Thanks for posting this,I would have never noticed it...although my order did automatically adjust,its nice to know I'll be paying even less than the $40 msrp...

[Masterkyo]

Tempting .................................................. ............................ i hate holidy, lol :)

[nhatkthanh]

Got auto adjusted on mine, sweet! Thanks op.

[ctrek3]

mine adjusted couple hours ago... woohoo

[Maromi]

Yeah, they auto-adjusted mine. <3 Amazon.

There is no excuse not to buy this game for $35. Not only will you get 100+ hours of gameplay, but you also get a soundtrack and a good-sized art book. Yay Atlus.

[Tom Ato]

Mine just auto-adjusted a few hours ago, so no need to email them. $35 out the door, pretty good for a new release.

[gunm]

I emailed and my order was adjusted.

[Raye]

Thanks for the notification OP. Mine changed to the new price. $14.99 for this game -- what a steal! (Had a $20 gift certificate)

[Joda84]

This game would be well worth $50. This is a steal imo.

[Teeheehee]

Mines didn't adjust 2 days ago, so I just cancelled and reordered it. Like an idiot, I preordered P4 with LA2, which still hasn't shipped because of P4. I hope I still get the art book, which was the whole point of me even considering LA2 in the first place.

[happy]

Game of the Year and only $35 with an art book and soundtrack... Atlus + Amazon = :applause:

It's a shame all of the awards people will probably ignore this for GOTY because it's on PS2.

/Wants SMT 3 or Persona 5 on PS3 with some updated graphics next

[Maromi]

^ It was announced a long time ago that an SMT was in the works for the PS3. Dunno if that project has been on hold, though.

[animemaniac14]

cannot WAIT for this game to come out! just a couple more weeks! already got it pre-ordered at GS but just thought I should tell EVERYONE to BUY THIS GAME!

[Byakurai]

Yeah, I did another preorder on this for $35, only to go through my other preorders to see that my original preorder already had the price drop along with 5% gold box discount for a total of $33.49.

Duly noted and swiftly cancelled. :P

[masterage]

Wasn't able to get any other discounts on it, but I went ahead and pre-ordered Kingdom hearts RE as well as getting this Persona 4 steal :D

So...yay?

[Rodster]

I've never played a Persona game although I hear people rave about them. What are they about and do you need to play the previous ones to understand the story?

[masterage]

I've never played a Persona game although I hear people rave about them. What are they about and do you need to play the previous ones to understand the story?
Each Persona is a stand-alone game (for that matter, most JRPGs). Only a few characters are common to each one.

[jchen]

Game of the Year and only $35 with an art book and soundtrack... Atlus + Amazon = :applause:

Did anyone get charged tax cause mine is $37.92?:cry: Im not sure if amazon charges tax..

[Bulrog]

Did anyone get charged tax cause mine is $37.92?:cry: Im not sure if amazon charges tax..

Are you from New York?

[jchen]

Yes i am. Is NY one of the states amazon taxes?

[happy]

I've never played a Persona game although I hear people rave about them. What are they about and do you need to play the previous ones to understand the story?

It's essentially a dating simulator. Do you go for the nerdy girl who's pretty forgiving, or the hot one with whom you need to answer every damn question correctly? Alternatively you can try to balance multiple girlfriends at once. I think I read somewhere that Persona 4 allows you to date males as well, although I'm not sure.

[newlu]

Yes i am. Is NY one of the states amazon taxes?
Yes....

[UberNinjaz]

It's essentially a dating simulator. Do you go for the nerdy girl who's pretty forgiving, or the hot one with whom you need to answer every damn question correctly? Alternatively you can try to balance multiple girlfriends at once. I think I read somewhere that Persona 4 allows you to date males as well, although I'm not sure.

Great way to overlook the part where Persona is a JRPG/ dungeon-crawler...

[DarkSageRK]

Great way to overlook the part where Persona is a JRPG/ dungeon-crawler...

The dungeon parts are only to allow you to continue the story and get more hot anime-girl action.

Just because Gears of War 2 has a tooth-dodging part doesn't mean it's a tooth-dodging game. It's basically the same with Persona 4.

[ninja dog]

It's essentially a dating simulator.

what? no.

[Vinny]

Are you from New York?

Amazon charges tax in losts of states..
"Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax."

And I think they charge tax in Cali too, don't they?

[menikmati]

Amazon charges tax in losts of states..
"Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax."

And I think they charge tax in Cali too, don't they?

I wouldn't consider 5 states "lots."

And no, they don't charge tax in CA.

[WTPolaris]

Even though I live in Kentucky and got charged tax this is still under MSRP and comes with all the goodies. I never played an SMT or a Persona game til Persona 3: FES, but FES was so uniquely great(storytelling wise and gameplay wise) that I'm preordering #4 right off the bat. I'm glad I took a chance on FES when it came out, I just hope P4 doesn't have an FES down the road and I have to rebuy it :x

You also spend equal, if not more time in the dungeon crawling aspects of Persona 3, so I don't consider it a dating sim in the slightest. The closest game I was able to find to compare it to was Azure Dreams on PSX, but with Personas and not Monsters. Plus the cast of P3 was fantastic, not a single character I didn't like(Fuuka maybe just because her voice actor grated on my nerves.)

[Demix500]

thank god for amazon. Tax going to 9.25% in SD

[UberNinjaz]

Sucks that David Paterson or whoever it was forced sites who ship to NY state tax us. Was great when I would just pay the MSRP & free 2-day shipping but now I spend less on Amazon because of tax. Even started going back to J&L + Initial D in Chinatown more often now.

If only they realized sales tax is a bad thing...

[Rodster]

It's essentially a dating simulator. Do you go for the nerdy girl who's pretty forgiving, or the hot one with whom you need to answer every damn question correctly? Alternatively you can try to balance multiple girlfriends at once. I think I read somewhere that Persona 4 allows you to date males as well, although I'm not sure.

Thanks for the response happy. Btw how long is this game? I seem to interest in games that are to long in nature.

[happy]

Thanks for the response happy. Btw how long is this game? I seem to interest in games that are to long in nature.

As others have said it's a dungeon crawler too (some people on here need to lighten up) and probably has the best battle system of any RPG. You equip demons who provide different abilities/powers, and which demons you can use are dependent on your relationships (it's nice that your actions outside of battle have an effect in battle). It's also probably going to have some really hard fights, it forces you to figure out monsters' immunities/weaknesses (no just buying a good sword and physically attacking everything with an occasional healing spell as in most FF games). If you've ever played Nocturne the battles will be similar.

(The above description is based on P3, which as I understand is very similar to 4)

As far as length it will probably be really long. That said, there's a good amount of variety in what you do (most of your time is not in the dungeons) and the side stories with all of the friends tend to be very good.

[Shady3011]

thank god for amazon. Tax going to 9.25% in SD

Damn. That's one percent higher than LA. Why the sudden drastic increase?

[pete5883]

Even though I live in Kentucky and got charged tax this is still under MSRP and comes with all the goodies. I never played an SMT or a Persona game til Persona 3: FES, but FES was so uniquely great(storytelling wise and gameplay wise) that I'm preordering #4 right off the bat. I'm glad I took a chance on FES when it came out, I just hope P4 doesn't have an FES down the road and I have to rebuy it :x
Atlus issued a press release announcing there would be no FES equivalent for P4.

[Bulrog]

Amazon charges tax in losts of states..
"Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax."

And I think they charge tax in Cali too, don't they?

Whoops. I only thought New York, my bad.

[Vegan]

Thanks for the response happy. Btw how long is this game? I seem to interest in games that are to long in nature.


I spent almost 300 hours on P3 FES.

[Rodster]

I spent almost 300 hours on P3 FES.

Whoa :shock:

Can you finish the story in less time? Anyway based on what you guys said I ordered PES4. :)

[62t]

Also i would suggests getting FES (now that it is $20) first before playing P4.

[62t]

Damn. That's one percent higher than LA. Why the sudden drastic increase?

If the Governator has his way, local tax is going to be 10.25% around here.

[happy]

Whoa :shock:

Can you finish the story in less time? Anyway based on what you guys said I ordered PES4. :)


A playthrough of P3 without FES is probably in the 40-50 hour range. If you want all the cool abilities a little more (who doesn't want to summon Lucifer, Satan, and Messiah). If you want to see all of the story you either need to play through twice or use a guide (not recommended) just because you need to organize each day almost perfectly and never answer questions wrong to max out all of your relationships in one playthrough.

[Rodster]

Also i would suggests getting FES (now that it is $20) first before playing P4.

Why? I thought others said they are separate stories or are they? :-k

[62t]

Why? I thought others said they are separate stories or are they? :-k

separate story, but it will be easier to go from P3 to P4 than P4 to P3 as they made some gameplay improvements that would make it harder to go back.

[Rodster]

separate story, but it will be easier to go from P3 to P4 than P4 to P3 as they made some gameplay improvements that would make it harder to go back.

Gotcha ok i'll pickup PES 3 as well. 8-)

[Rodster]

A playthrough of P3 without FES is probably in the 40-50 hour range. If you want all the cool abilities a little more (who doesn't want to summon Lucifer, Satan, and Messiah). If you want to see all of the story you either need to play through twice or use a guide (not recommended) just because you need to organize each day almost perfectly and never answer questions wrong to max out all of your relationships in one playthrough.

Thanks again happy for the explanation. :)

[meerkatgamer]

Great price on persona 4 also the december issue of PLAY magazine has persona 4 on it's cover, reviews, and a few more things I'm going to get me one to read this week the cover art on the magazine is so nice. :drool:

[Bulrog]

A playthrough of P3 without FES is probably in the 40-50 hour range. If you want all the cool abilities a little more (who doesn't want to summon Lucifer, Satan, and Messiah). If you want to see all of the story you either need to play through twice or use a guide (not recommended) just because you need to organize each day almost perfectly and never answer questions wrong to max out all of your relationships in one playthrough.

For the Journey, 40 to 50 hours is way too low. I've played through the journey twice and both times it took me over 80 hours. I mean trying to rush through the game I could imagine 70 hours maybe 65, but 50 is too quick.

[mythus]

For the Journey, 40 to 50 hours is way too low. I've played through the journey twice and both times it took me over 80 hours. I mean trying to rush through the game I could imagine 70 hours maybe 65, but 50 is too quick.
lol i beat and final saved on the journey @ 90 hrs and im 15hrs into the answer. =\

[Nirron]

For the Journey, 40 to 50 hours is way too low. I've played through the journey twice and both times it took me over 80 hours. I mean trying to rush through the game I could imagine 70 hours maybe 65, but 50 is too quick.

I can't really imagine doing everything on the first playthrough. There's something like 13-15 social links (I think I missed one completely on my first playthrough), as well as 3 social stats (Intelligence, Charm, Courage) to max out.

I barely managed to get 9 maxed links and maxed my stats by the end of my first playthrough, and something like level 83. Not to mention doing all the requests, getting all Personas (first playthrough I ended up with 75% or so), and getting awesome weapons via Persona weapon fusion. Luckily my second playthrough was a bit smoother, as I allowed myself to use a guide since there would be no spoilers.

I do wonder how long P4 will be though, since The Journey (1st playthrough) took me roughly 75 hours, and The Answer around 25.

[surak]

I started playing FES in May. Last night I reached the 201st floor of Tartarus and am at about 100hrs. This is even with the guide and checking FAQs. The guide suggests there are at least around 70 floors to go. Jebus. P3 is great but I have to admit that the sheer length of Tartarus can get tedious.

[meerkatgamer]

I do wonder how long P4 will be though, since The Journey (1st playthrough) took me roughly 75 hours, and The Answer around 25.

Hmm no clue how long persona 4 will be, but I've read there's multiple endings so that you get so I'm sure if you want to see all of the endings you'll have to play a few times to make the right choices for each ending I dunno though hopefully the P4 guide will have something on this..

[Vegan]

Hmm no clue how long persona 4 will be, but I've read there's multiple endings so that you get so I'm sure if you want to see all of the endings you'll have to play a few times to make the right choices for each ending I dunno though hopefully the P4 guide will have something on this..

P3 had multiple endings and it's longer than fuck.

[buckythekat]

It's essentially a dating simulator. Do you go for the nerdy girl who's pretty forgiving, or the hot one with whom you need to answer every damn question correctly? Alternatively you can try to balance multiple girlfriends at once. I think I read somewhere that Persona 4 allows you to date males as well, although I'm not sure.

uh no not really, Thousand Arms on PS1 had more of a dating sim element and even it didn't come close to being essentially a dating sim

you have no idea what a real dating simulator game is do you?

[masterage]

uh no not really, Thousand Arms on PS1 had more of a dating sim element and even it didn't come close to being essentially a dating sim

you have no idea what a real dating simulator game is do you?
Thousand Arms players/fans UNITE!

Yeah, P3/P4 isn't a dating sim, not at all. At least, not in the traditional sense...more of 'follow this person around and give advice'

[WTPolaris]

I'm on my first playthrough of P3 FES, still in The Journey and the date on my game is 9/12. That's about halfway through til the end and I currently just hit 40 hours and I play through at a pretty leisurely pace(doing all the Elizabeth requests I can, especially finding items in Tartarus tends to eat up a lot of time). Tartarus can be pretty daunting(think I'm on floor 112 or so) but I think what didn't bug me about that so far is that it's still randomly generated so it doesn't feel as repetitive as it could have.

The game is so unique, I can't think of a better way to describe it. It's just a game you have to play to understand, it's not really easy to pin down as "a typical JRPG" or "a dating sim" or "a dungeon crawl" entirely though it does have elements of all you can not participate in all of them(I don't think you have to actually finish Tartarus as the events to move the game along story wise happen outside of Tartarus. I do think the last boss is at the top though(sorry I don't know for sure, I haven't finished it yet.)

[menikmati]

I was going to preorder this but won't have the time to play it.

I might pick up P3: FES and dabble in it since I've never played a Persona game but heard they were fun, I just can't dedicate all that time into a single game.

[Demix500]

you can preorder and listen to the soundtrack :) - they're addicting as hell.

[lounges]

you can preorder and listen to the soundtrack :) - they're addicting as hell.

Huh?

Where can you listen to the soundtrack? Or do you mean you will have the soundtrack because you pre-order?

[eau]

Huh?

Where can you listen to the soundtrack? Or do you mean you will have the soundtrack because you pre-order?
Huh? Didn't you know every copy of Persona 4 comes with a soundtrack CD?

However, the second soundtrack CD (Volume 2?) is only available in the social expansion pack which is currently sold out as a preorder.

[fidgeteer]

Huh? Didn't you know every copy of Persona 4 comes with a soundtrack CD?

However, the second soundtrack CD (Volume 2?) is only available in the social expansion pack which is currently sold out as a preorder.

Pity, that. But for the nascent stuff-pile promised by a plushie, calendar and shirt in my cluttered two-bedroom apartment, I'd have jumped on that deal with both Docs. Still, I'm hoping someone will be kind enough to rip mp3s of the second soundtrack if Atlus itself doesn't put them up on partner Amazon's music download store.

[bigl523]

Pity, that. But for the nascent stuff-pile promised by a plushie, calendar and shirt in my cluttered two-bedroom apartment, I'd have jumped on that deal with both Docs. Still, I'm hoping someone will be kind enough to rip mp3s of the second soundtrack if Atlus itself doesn't put them up on partner Amazon's music download store.

I'm sure you'll have problem "finding" it :-#

[meerkatgamer]

P3 had multiple endings and it's longer than fuck.
I know persona 3 had multiple endings I played persona 3 I still need to play persona 3 fes parts though..

I looked it up and It looks like persona 4 will have a Bad Ending, a good ending, and a true ending something like that.

[Rodster]

Persona 4 is getting stellar reviews so far. Here's the first one, 94/100 :applause:

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/persona4/index.html

[Bulrog]

Persona 4 is getting stellar reviews so far. Here's the first one, 94/100 :applause:

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/persona4/index.html

If anyone doesn't want spoilers for the game skip the story section, I was so pissed what they said. Yet I read this a couple weeks ago, so I'm not blaming you for anything.

[zakai]

I never read actual reviews -- most of them are written by people who don't know how differentiate between a 'review' and a 'book report'. Spoilers galore in the latter.

[beerme]

:bomb:

The following item will arrive after December 25, 2008. Items not yet shipped:
Shipping estimate: December 15, 2008

1 of: Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

[pete5883]

Has free shipping ever taken 10 days for you?

[Nirron]

:bomb:

The following item will arrive after December 25, 2008. Items not yet shipped:
Shipping estimate: December 15, 2008

1 of: Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC



Yeah that is really odd. Of course mine says that too, but it kind of depends where it ships from for how long it takes. I guess they get backed up for the holidays and it takes longer to process orders, but mine usually got to my house between 3-6 days. I knew I should've signed up for Prime! Curse my skepticism.

Edit: Didn't even look at the rest of the item you posted. I don't mind the expansion pack so much, but it says that too for the game itself. I'm expecting my Persona 4 fix, and I don't know if I can wait an entire month. Also, if I click the order, it still says the Delivery Estimate is the 22-24th.

[happy]

I get the impression that amazon is sitting on free shipping orders to promote prime. My Resistance 2 from yesterday is being "prepared to ship" with an estimated shipping date of Dec 1 (delivery 8 days later than that). That never used to happen for in stock items which would ship the day of the order or the day after at worst.

[Shady3011]

I got on the Prime trail because I needed computer parts fast. Getting this before Christmas is a nice bonus. However, Amazon has always good to me about getting stuff sent out fast if I order in advance with saver shipping.

[Vegan]

I get the impression that amazon is sitting on free shipping orders to promote prime. My Resistance 2 from yesterday is being "prepared to ship" with an estimated shipping date of Dec 1 (delivery 8 days later than that). That never used to happen for in stock items which would ship the day of the order or the day after at worst.


Well, of course. Just like any shipping service, the cheapest stuff gets lowest priority. At USPS sorting facilities, the Priority Mail gets sorted first, and if the other stuff doesn't make it out of the facility until two days later, that's just the way it works.

[newlu]

:bomb:

The following item will arrive after December 25, 2008. Items not yet shipped:

Shipping estimate: December 15, 2008

1 of: Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC


Items not yet shipped:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/icons/arrow_subordinate._V47081670_.gif Delivery estimate: December 12, 2008

1 of: Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

I placed my order on 10/09 with Prime.

[jacknicklson]

Obviously a prime order will not have the "shipping after xmas" logo attached to it

[newlu]

I think it's because I'll be getting it before Xmas.

EDIT: Delivery estimate: December 12, 2008

[jacknicklson]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Something releasing that early would never come after Xmas for a Prime member.

[pete5883]

Damn, my Expansion Pack order also claims it is shipping ~ 12/15, and arriving after Xmas. I ordered pretty early (10/8).

[Vinny]

Damn, my Expansion Pack order also claims it is shipping ~ 12/15, and arriving after Xmas. I ordered pretty early (10/8).

Amazon always ships preordered items days after it's actually released... kinda stupid but that's what always ends up happening.

[ogelboy]

yeah, don't know why this is??

[animemaniac14]

ordered mine back in mid october like the rest of you and it said it wouldn't ship til after christmas..but i got prime a few weeks ago so i just changed the shipping method and VOILA! It shall now be delivered on the 12th! joy! can't wait!

[dragilores]

(coz of the damn Amazon Tax in NY) My P4 comes up to $38.

[psychofish]

ok, I bit-- I enjoyed Persona 3 quite a bit (but still haven't finished it yet...) but I figure I'll just get it at this price and sit on it for a while.

I always get the free shipping option... it seems there's an Amazon warehouse very close to where I live (in Philadelphia) so half the time they just send a courier to drop it off the day after I place the order. For free. It's pretty sweet and pretty much just ensures that I buy everything from them.

[Foosil]

I was always get my stuff before thier crazy eta shipping dates. I really hope I get mine before xmas.....If not I'll just cancel my order.

[simpleblur]

Missed out on the artbook with Fes, looking forward to it with Persona 4.

[Ryuukishi]

Missed out on the artbook with Fes, looking forward to it with Persona 4.
Just so you know, starting today Amazon is selling a version of Persona 3 FES packaged with the artbook and soundtrack CD from the original Persona 3 release.

[Ryuukishi]

thanks for the heads up mate http://$$$$$$$$$.com/img/1118/j08q1122oqix/icon_smile.gif
No problem. I don't know why Atlus aren't advertising it themselves, unless they're afraid of being accused of triple-dipping. :) I'm also wondering what the price will be after Amazon's Black Friday sale price of $29.95 is over with, since it hasn't been available before this at all.

[Ogami Itto]

Ok if this has been answered in this thread then I'm a giant moron, but does the artbook come with every copy or only the Amazon, Gamestop copies? the reason I ask is that I can get the game cheaper on ebay with the live cashback deal, but there is no mention of the book, just the soundtrack, thanks.

[jererjerer]

the preorder artbook is, as the name implies, a preorder bonus...so if you mean that artbook...well, preorder is your best; note that I am not saying you won't find the same thing on ebay or other merchants after the preorder dates

[Ryuukishi]

Yeah, for P4, every copy comes with the CD in the case, but the artbook is only with preorders at certain merchants. If the listing doesn't mention an artbook then you probably won't get one.

[Ogami Itto]

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Rodster]

1up just posted their review and gave it an A+ :bouncy:

[escapekey]

Why does Amazon's page say that you have to order from Amazon Canada to get the art book?

The Persona 4 two-disc set includes the game and its Shoji Meguro composed soundtrack. Pre-order while supplies last and get a deluxe, limited-edition art book featuring acclaimed "Persona 4" artist Shigenori Soejima. The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game. Must be sold and shipped by Amazon.ca to be eligible.

[aeri]

Why does Amazon's page say that you have to order from Amazon Canada to get the art book?

The Persona 4 two-disc set includes the game and its Shoji Meguro composed soundtrack. Pre-order while supplies last and get a deluxe, limited-edition art book featuring acclaimed "Persona 4" artist Shigenori Soejima. The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game. Must be sold and shipped by Amazon.ca to be eligible.

Good call, I noticed the same thing after you said that and freaked out a bit. Upon further investigation the exact same page says....

Pre-order Bonus: "Persona 4" Extras
The "Persona 4" two-disc set includes the game and its Shoji Meguro composed soundtrack. Pre-order while supplies last and get a deluxe, limited-edition art book featuring acclaimed "Persona 4" artist Shigenori Soejima. The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game. Must be sold and shipped by Amazon.com to be eligible.

at the top of the page. I'm guessing Amazon wrote the description for the Amazon.ca site but were lazy copy pasters and forgot to edit both. Hopefully I'm right...

[shrike4242]

Why does Amazon's page say that you have to order from Amazon Canada to get the art book?

The Persona 4 two-disc set includes the game and its Shoji Meguro composed soundtrack. Pre-order while supplies last and get a deluxe, limited-edition art book featuring acclaimed "Persona 4" artist Shigenori Soejima. The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game. Must be sold and shipped by Amazon.ca to be eligible.Yeah, I just noticed that as well. :-s

Found this on their forums, and it's dated 11/06/08, which mentions Amazon.com as a vendor of P4 that has artbooks for pre-order:

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2321

When it dropped down to $34.99, I did a print of the web page, and it still lists the text block that talks about the artbook. Currently, the page has the Black Friday Deals block where the info about the artbook would be.

[newlu]

Is the pre-order bonus artbook the same as this one??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW

[buckythekat]

Is the pre-order bonus artbook the same as this one??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW

nope but now I want that one :hot:

[escapekey]

Cool, thanks for the heads-up, Shrike.

[Maromi]

If I buy that, I'll have spent just as much money on Persona 4 swag as a $60 game. : D

[buckythekat]

If I buy that, I'll have spent just as much money on Persona 4 swag as a $60 game. : D

only? if I get that I'll have everything Persona 4

the game, the expansion set, the strategy guide, and the deluxe art book

[newlu]

I've just pre-ordered the artbook..could be "rare" down the road...well hopefully.

[Nirron]

The day fast approaches. 1UP gave it an A+.

And wow at that art book. A t-shirt, plushie and soundtrack CD I could get some use out of (my cat loves anything with fluff), but the art book is iffy, and $30...ouch.

[VGI-Shinobi]

Is the pre-order bonus artbook the same as this one??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW
I highly doubt it but this art book is cool as hell. The only drawback is the price. $30 for the art book versus $35 for the game? I think I'll take the game instead.

[allen9917]

pre-ordered P4. I wonder why atlus does not make it a HD game and release it on PS3, just like disgaea 3. well, at least it's only $35 on PS2.

[robbart914]

pre-ordered P4. I wonder why atlus does not make it a HD game and release it on PS3, just like disgaea 3. well, at least it's only $35 on PS2.

Isolates the market of potential buyers. PS2 owners slaughter PS3 owners in sheer numbers.

I do like projects like Disgaea, but probably not gonna happen often unless Sony's footing the bill.

[donburns99]

Is the pre-order bonus artbook the same as this one??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCWIt's the Japanese Art Book.

In my opinion, it's definitely worth getting, as they generally tend to be better quality and have more pages than the English versions.

You can also find it on Play Asia for $26.90 (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-lz-77-1-49-en-15-Persona+4-70-307y.html), but it has been sold out for awhile now.

[UberNinjaz]

pre-ordered P4. I wonder why atlus does not make it a HD game and release it on PS3, just like disgaea 3. well, at least it's only $35 on PS2.
PS2 owners outnumber PS3 owners like nobody's business.

[Jesse_Dylan]

I'm just waiting for Amazon.com to make this one of their special video game countdown daily deals and lower the price to $20, conveniently the day after our pre-orders ship. They've been doing that constantly lately. It would be fine if they'd match the price, like they used to. Now as long as your order has shipped, your only recourse is to return it for a refund and re-purchase.

[DarkSageRK]

At $30 I'll wait for the scans.

[Slade]

I'm planning to play P4 on my PS3 to take advantage of upscaling and ample amount of memory space.

Sure I still have my PS2 and it's still hooked up but I'm too used to playing games in wide screen on my HD TV so that's just how it'll be.

Would be really nice if the game support widescreen/progressive mode like some PS2 games does but I'm not holding my breath.

Still, the game I'm looking forward to the most in December by far. Can't wait.

[UberNinjaz]

Would be really nice if the game support widescreen/progressive mode like some PS2 games does but I'm not holding my breath.

Bleh, I only use widescreen with PS2 games if it was made that way. Really can't stand how stretched out menus in FF 12, God of War 2 & the like, look in widescreen. Though the upscaling is really nice.

Good ol' 4:3 for Persona 4, on my PS2.

[thepik241]

Amazon's Gold Box has a deal on Persona 4.
Not too huge but it's something.

Amazon Price: $35
Gold Box Price: $33.24

Just pre-ordered one because of this small deal.

[UberNinjaz]

Amazon's Gold Box has a deal on Persona 4.
Not too huge but it's something.

Amazon Price: $35
Gold Box Price: $33.24

Just pre-ordered one because of this small deal.

Sucks, I just got 2 useless movies & Luminous Arc 2 (which only $35+ & something I have no interest in either) :(

[endlessPRO]

do i need to play persona 3 before playing this?

[UberNinjaz]

No, 3 & 4 are their own games.

[62t]

but it is a good idea to play P3 first as P4's gameplay improved from P3, so it would be less enjoyable if you play P4 first.

[AwRy108]

PS2 owners outnumber PS3 owners like nobody's business.

Not to mention that a percentage of the PS3's on the market actually have backward compatibility, so there's even more PS2 audience to cater to.

[MSI Magus]

Tempted to pick up this book. Wonder if they will be limited supply or if 3 months from now we are going to see the book selling for $20.

[Jesse_Dylan]

Bleh, I only use widescreen with PS2 games if it was made that way. Really can't stand how stretched out menus in FF 12, God of War 2 & the like, look in widescreen. Though the upscaling is really nice.

Good ol' 4:3 for Persona 4, on my PS2.

How does this upscaling work? My PS3 won't do it, gimped as it is. I agree, though, that games stretched to widescreen usually look pretty icky. You're not getting anymore image, just stretching the image out to fill the space, so what's the point? I do wish they would have done widescreen output, but P4 is a Japanese game, and the install base for HDTVs in Japan is lower than the US; that's another reason it's a PS2 game. Even P5 might be PS2, but we'll see. I don't frankly care. It could release on my toaster for all it matters to me. (Dragon Quest IX, on the other hand... I'm still butthurt that's a DS title. 3D on DS is such a step back compared to the gorgeous DQ VIII on PS2.)

[MSI Magus]

How does this upscaling work? My PS3 won't do it, gimped as it is. I agree, though, that games stretched to widescreen usually look pretty icky. You're not getting anymore image, just stretching the image out to fill the space, so what's the point? I do wish they would have done widescreen output, but P4 is a Japanese game, and the install base for HDTVs in Japan is lower than the US; that's another reason it's a PS2 game. Even P5 might be PS2, but we'll see. I don't frankly care. It could release on my toaster for all it matters to me. (Dragon Quest IX, on the other hand... I'm still butthurt that's a DS title. 3D on DS is such a step back compared to the gorgeous DQ VIII on PS2.)

I said it in the other topic and I will say it here. I think that Sony or MS should buy Atlus. They make alot of great games very efficiently and have a huge Japanese following. A small investment in Atlus could have huge returns, especially for MS who is struggling with the Japanese market but slowly making ground. Buying up Atlus and announcing Persona 5 made by the same group of people as previous games with the same great bonuses = huge Japanese sales for MS and a slow move in the US.

[wampa8jedi]

I'm almost afraid to keep my pre-order on this one... Atlus titles have been plummeting in price lately, and I can't help but wonder whether P4 will be subjected to the same fate.

[MSI Magus]

I'm almost afraid to keep my pre-order on this one... Atlus titles have been plummeting in price lately, and I can't help but wonder whether P4 will be subjected to the same fate.

I understand and that's why I haven't bitten on a lot of stuff like Eternal Poison or EO and sure enough I have been right. However I look at it this way. A lot of the other stuff are pretty average titles where Persona 4 is a very high quality title and it comes with an art book, outer casing and a sound track for $35. I feel ENTITLED to support Atlus with a purchase of this game. Where the other stuff is average stuff without a ton of extras this game is practically a gift to fans at $35(hell it would be even without the extra stuff). A second way of looking at it is that if this game drops in price the worst that happens is it drops to $20 without all the extras. On the flip side it could shoot up to $50 without all the stuff and like $75-$100 with all the stuff. From a financial stand point unlike other atlus games I see this as more of a risk not to buy.

[Ryuukishi]

I think it's extremely likely that P4 will drop to $25 or less within weeks, just like most recent Atlus games (whether as a one-off DOTD opportunity or a permanent drop). The risk, as I see it, is the artbook. It could continue to be easily available with the game, or it could be in high demand and go for $30+ by itself on eBay, there's just no telling. That's the main reason I'm keeping my preorder, I really want the artbook and I don't want to deal with the possible hassle of tracking it down later. That and I used a Bill Me Later promo on the order and got a few extra bucks off anyway.

But I think the chances of the game itself ever becoming rare are slim to none. At this point Atlus recognizes that the Persona series is their biggest success and calling card. It would be like Square allowing Final Fantasy X or Kingdom Hearts to become out of print and rare. Not going to happen.

[botticus]

I'm sure P4 will be $30 in a week or two based on Amazon pricing strategies lately (lower than that is unlikely unless it sells horribly in relation to P3), but I figure $33.24 is close enough.

[Dead of Knight]

Maybe it'll go to $30, but I doubt lower. Persona is a WAY more popular brand name than the other Atlus games that've been released lately and have subsquently dropped like a rock.

[MSI Magus]

Maybe it'll go to $30, but I doubt lower. Persona is a WAY more popular brand name than the other Atlus games that've been released lately and have subsquently dropped like a rock.

Like I said too, we really should support Atlus on the Persona series. I want Atlus to succeed and continue to do what they do. I also want them to keep looking at the PS2 as a viable candidate for titles. Thus this is one of the only games I am buying at day one this year.

[shrike4242]

Here's a screen cap from the PDF printout I did on the Persona 4 page from 11/21/08:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/shrike4242/th_Persona4withartbook.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=persona4withartbookbq1.jpg)http://img219.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[botticus]

The artbook is showing up in the description again now that the Black Friday blurb is gone.

[Jesse_Dylan]

I don't think it'd be any permanent price drop. Actually, it's just as likely they'll axe the small discount they have on it now; I'll just be annoyed if it's a deal of the day for $20, which I think is also likely. I'll stick with my $35 order. It's an important game to me. I'll be less annoyed than usual if it goes on deal of the day or something.

[shrike4242]

Good to hear that it's back. Time to blame the website programmers for that one.

[IronMonkey008]

I never got got an email of a price update, not sure if you do get one. But I just checked the order status from the site and my order is now $29.99 instead of $31.99, so yay :D.

[Jesse_Dylan]

Wait, what? Mine is $34.99!

[Ryuukishi]

I never got got an email of a price update, not sure if you do get one. But I just checked the order status from the site and my order is now $29.99 instead of $31.99, so yay :D.
Assuming that there's some kind of $5 coupon factored in there? The most recent price drop was from $36.99 to $34.99.

[Jesse_Dylan]

I said it in the other topic and I will say it here. I think that Sony or MS should buy Atlus. They make alot of great games very efficiently and have a huge Japanese following. A small investment in Atlus could have huge returns, especially for MS who is struggling with the Japanese market but slowly making ground. Buying up Atlus and announcing Persona 5 made by the same group of people as previous games with the same great bonuses = huge Japanese sales for MS and a slow move in the US.

Sounds nice, but Atlus isn't a "small investment". They're an enormous company, in Japan at least. I'm sure they enjoy their position as a multiplatform developer.

[IronMonkey008]

Assuming that there's some kind of $5 coupon factored in there? The most recent price drop was from $36.99 to $34.99.

lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.

[Jesse_Dylan]

lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.

...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?

[jererjerer]

here's my 2 cents...the Atlus we know isn't necessarily the same in Japan...by that I mean there are a ton more JPRG makers in Japan than the number of exclusive JRPG publisher in US...the Japanese are still buying those games made by Square Enix and other big name studios rather than paying big bucks for those, relatively speaking, niche games. For the MS guys, we know they've had a good deal of games made by big names/decent studios that generated lack luster sales-case in point, infinite undiscovery, lost odyssey-so buying Atlus and taking them in as a subsidiary won't generate that level of sales, furthermore, it's a different realm in managing a game publishing studio...

[wampa8jedi]

...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?

It's an old, limited offering coupon that was offered at least six months ago, if I recall correctly.

[shrike4242]

lol yea I used that $5 Amazon coupon from Atlus.As others have asked, what coupon?

...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?Hopefully, it'll be a non-unique coupon.

[IronMonkey008]

...what coupon? Care to let us in, or is it something they made up special for you?

Was given out to the Atlus faithful (people who signed up for newsletters) when Atlus closed their online store and announced they would be using Amazon as their main seller. It was a $5 promotional coupon code toward your next Amazon purchase.

[robbart914]

Regardless, the atlus we know has reprinted some of its titles despite the current state of the economy. Given they "seem" to have the cash flow, I would expect them to continue to print as many P4's as they can sell. IOW, I doubt this would be an item to invest on.

End result, it's aggressively priced given the number of hours of gameplay. Don't think about where it's price will go, just buy if it's worth it. I would myself, but I've yet to get to P3. By the time I get to P4, it will either be OOP or less than $20. With my backlog I'll gladly gamble.

[MSI Magus]

Sounds nice, but Atlus isn't a "small investment". They're an enormous company, in Japan at least. I'm sure they enjoy their position as a multiplatform developer.


MS and Sony cant compete with Nintendo first party and third party they are drawing even with each other. So at this point the question is do they want to start building development houses of their own which is also a major investment as would it be to try and create successful IP. Or do they buy out another company and if so who? I am looking at things through the perspective of compared to other companies and compared to bleeding money to buy exclusives the way they have been or building a new development studio purchasing atlus seems smart. They could always REALLY spend money and buy out someone like Capcom, but when you look at how much it would cost them to do something like that vs buying a small company like Atlus which would nab some hype and a company that obviously runs a tight ship. Seems a no brainer.

[jer7583]

Persona 3 FES for $20 last weekend says this will not be rare.

The whole "atlus games are rare" thing stopped a long time ago. Stop buying games based on the idea that they won't be in stock.

Persona 4 does look slick, though. I'll get it cheaper, later. I don't want a CD of the awful music or an artbook i'll look at once for full price.

[62t]

MS and Sony cant compete with Nintendo first party and third party they are drawing even with each other. So at this point the question is do they want to start building development houses of their own which is also a major investment as would it be to try and create successful IP. Or do they buy out another company and if so who? I am looking at things through the perspective of compared to other companies and compared to bleeding money to buy exclusives the way they have been or building a new development studio purchasing atlus seems smart. They could always REALLY spend money and buy out someone like Capcom, but when you look at how much it would cost them to do something like that vs buying a small company like Atlus which would nab some hype and a company that obviously runs a tight ship. Seems a no brainer.

Atlus of Japan actually made very few games. Aside from SMT, Trauma Center, Growlanser, and Etrain Odyssey, Atlus of Japan doesnt make any of the games Atlus USA published. Most of Atlus USA games are from Japanese developer that lack a US publisher. So buying Altus would do very little for Sony in US or Japan. Plus Sony recently hired one of the head guy at Atlus and have him make work on games like Monster Kingdom. So they are going to be getting quality games and new IP without buying a whole company.

[MSI Magus]

Atlus of Japan actually made very few games. Aside from SMT, Trauma Center, Growlanser, and Etrain Odyssey, Atlus of Japan doesnt make any of the games Atlus USA published. Most of Atlus USA games are from Japanese developer that lack a US publisher. So buying Altus would do very little for Sony in US or Japan. Plus Sony recently hired one of the head guy at Atlus and have him make work on games like Monster Kingdom. So they are going to be getting quality games and new IP without buying a whole company.

Thats all the more reason to approach them about a buy out. It means they own the rights to several very profitable franchises without actually having huge business offices and development teams. The SMT and Atlus names would be the main thing, stuff like Growlanser is just icing on the cake. SMT and Atlus are names that hold some weight in Japan and it would again ensure the Japanese that the 360 is not just a western console.

[shrike4242]

Was given out to the Atlus faithful (people who signed up for newsletters) when Atlus closed their online store and announced they would be using Amazon as their main seller. It was a $5 promotional coupon code toward your next Amazon purchase.Oh yeah, that one.

I used it on my P3 FES pre-order, so that explains why I don't remember seeing it when P4 was announced.

[62t]

Thats all the more reason to approach them about a buy out. It means they own the rights to several very profitable franchises without actually having huge business offices and development teams. The SMT and Atlus names would be the main thing, stuff like Growlanser is just icing on the cake. SMT and Atlus are names that hold some weight in Japan and it would again ensure the Japanese that the 360 is not just a western console.

Growlanser series has always been The SMT series has been on Sony system since Soul Hacker, and so far there is no indication that Atlus will developer for Xbox 360. Again it make no sense when Sony hired Kouji Okada, co founder of Atlus and the creator of SMT series who worked on every single SMT before Digital Devil Saga. I would take the creator instead of getting IP.

Atlus Japan is huge not just because of video games, they also made things like UFO catcher and sticker machine. Not sure if Sony wants to get into a new field just for a few exclusive games.

The only thing Sony would really get from a huge investment is for the SMT series, which has been on sony system aside from the upcoming game on DS.

[SDC]

Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.

[appleyum]

Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.

If you are not ordering for the extras (artbook and CD) I would say wait.

[Ryuukishi]

Will there be a FES-style re-release of this game in time? I've already pre-ordered, but I'm thinking maybe I'll hold off if a better version will come out down the road. I'm patient like that.
Atlus has stated that there will not be a "FES" version of Persona 4.

But if your definition of better includes "the same game for a cheaper price," and you're not super interested in the artbook, then by all means hold off for now. It's liable to drop in price pretty quickly if other Atlus games are instructive.

[GuardianE]

Atlus has stated that there will not be a "FES" version of Persona 4.

^This. Atlus realized that its fans were gun shy after being shafted last time.

[MSI Magus]

I am seriously wondering how many of you waiting for price drops are going to get bit on the ass. Especially those of you that think you will still get the art book and CD.

[62t]

I am pretty sure Atlus USA doesnt have control over what Atlus Japan wants to do. This is the same Atlus Japan that released 3 version of Nocturne.

I am seriously wondering how many of you waiting for price drops are going to get bit on the ass. Especially those of you that think you will still get the art book and CD.

Agree. Persona is a lot more popular than Luminous Arc or Eternal poison.

[IronMonkey008]

I am seriously wondering how many of you waiting for price drops are going to get bit on the ass. Especially those of you that think you will still get the art book and CD.

The CD is not part of the pre order bonus, only the artbook. If I'm not mistaken the CD is inside the game case. So I would assume no matter what any copy of P4 that is sold will have it. They will have to ebay the artbook though.

In all honesty though none of their games are rare anymore (high price wise), aside from the box set of DDS1. All of the games that are in demand has gotten a reprint or two.

[MSI Magus]

The CD is not part of the pre order bonus, only the artbook. If I'm not mistaken the CD is inside the game case. So I would assume no matter what any copy of P4 that is sold will have it. They will have to ebay the artbook though.

In all honesty though none of their games are rare anymore, aside from the box set of DDS1. Any of their games that are in demand has gotten a reprint or two.

Yes but none of the reprints has gone for THAT low. People are acting like this is almost definitely going to be a $20 game and some like it will still come with the pre order goodies. Thing is I think there is a fair chance that this becomes a $20 game, but I think chances are higher that it maintains or even slightly goes up in value. Persona 3 was pretty popular and FES is largely what killed its value, its reprints were largly done too because fans had already had to buy both versions and the value of the game killed. Again there is a decent chance that this goes down in value but look at the recently re released games. Are any of them lower then $25? No so at best you have a $10 savings and probably will miss out on the book which all by itself will fetch at least the $10.

Anyways, dont really care. People can do what they want. Just saying I dont understand waiting to MAYBE get this game $10 cheaper especially given that this has been a new not constant trend with Atlus.....so you could save $10....or end up paying $50 or more to have to buy it on ebay....or maybe get the reprint but 2 years freaking later. Just dont make sense.

[Ryuukishi]

Persona 4 is Atlus USA's highest profile release of 2008, and the sequel to what is arguably the company's most successful and popular game. They are going to flood the market with copies just like they did with FES. This is not going to go out of print.

[shrike4242]

The CD is not part of the pre order bonus, only the artbook. If I'm not mistaken the CD is inside the game case. So I would assume no matter what any copy of P4 that is sold will have it. They will have to ebay the artbook though.

In all honesty though none of their games are rare anymore (high price wise), aside from the box set of DDS1. All of the games that are in demand has gotten a reprint or two.It might be inside the box, or inside the package. Could go one of two ways:

1) P3 had a slipcover box with the artbook on one side of the box, and the game in the other side. The soundtrack CD was in a paper sleeve inside of the artbook. You could pull out the artbook and soundtrack without opening up the game.
2) Eternal Poison had a 2-game case, where the game was in one side and the soundtrack on the other side. You couldn't get to the soundtrack CD without opening up the game.

My guess is that they'll go down path #2, with the soundtrack CD inside of the game case.

[zewone]

I bit on the Persona 4 artbook. :oops:

Now, the only thing P4 related I don't have coming from Amazon is the strategy guide.

I've spent $125 on Persona 4.

[newlu]

I think both of the artbook and soundtrack will come packaged inside the box according to Amazon:

"The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game"

Just like what they did with Persona 3

[donburns99]

I bit on the Persona 4 artbook. :oops:

Now, the only thing P4 related I don't have coming from Amazon is the strategy guide.

I've spent $125 on Persona 4.
Mine only comes up to $114.96 with the strategy guide. What else did you purchase?

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C6GVI6) $34.99
- Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C) $29.99
- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 The Official Strategy Guide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979884861) $19.99
- P4 Official Design Works (Persona 4 Artbook - 191 Pages) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW) $29.99

[UberNinjaz]

Only thing I don't have is the Social Expansion stuff, but I'm only interested in the plushie but not paying $30 just for that.

[IronMonkey008]

Yes but none of the reprints has gone for THAT low. People are acting like this is almost definitely going to be a $20 game and some like it will still come with the pre order goodies. Thing is I think there is a fair chance that this becomes a $20 game, but I think chances are higher that it maintains or even slightly goes up in value. Persona 3 was pretty popular and FES is largely what killed its value, its reprints were largly done too because fans had already had to buy both versions and the value of the game killed. Again there is a decent chance that this goes down in value but look at the recently re released games. Are any of them lower then $25? No so at best you have a $10 savings and probably will miss out on the book which all by itself will fetch at least the $10.

Anyways, dont really care. People can do what they want. Just saying I dont understand waiting to MAYBE get this game $10 cheaper especially given that this has been a new not constant trend with Atlus.....so you could save $10....or end up paying $50 or more to have to buy it on ebay....or maybe get the reprint but 2 years freaking later. Just dont make sense.

Well I do agree that waiting for it to drop $20 is pointless. I can understand waiting to see if it drops to $30, which wouldn't surprise me. After the great run of P3 and FES I don't think there will too much trouble finding a copy later on, should they decide to wait a little longer.

[Maromi]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but I figured I'd let anyone know who was curious. I got my copy in today of the FES bundle from Amazon (soundtrack and art book), and it is, indeed, the same box that came with original version of Persona 3. Only thing that's different is FES is in there and not P3.

[MSI Magus]

Mine only comes up to $114.96 with the strategy guide. What else did you purchase?

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C6GVI6) $34.99
- Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C) $29.99
- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 The Official Strategy Guide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979884861) $19.99
- P4 Official Design Works (Persona 4 Artbook - 191 Pages) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW) $29.99

Ya I was thinking of that earlier. I bought the book today and ill end up buying the guide......so that means Ill end up spending $115 too on this one game. Not sure if that makes me amazingly cool or the biggest looser in the world.

[zewone]

Mine only comes up to $114.96 with the strategy guide. What else did you purchase?

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C6GVI6) $34.99
- Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C) $29.99
- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 The Official Strategy Guide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979884861) $19.99
- P4 Official Design Works (Persona 4 Artbook - 191 Pages) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW) $29.99
I didn't buy the guide, I bought two of the Social Link packs.

[Ryuukishi]

"The extras will come packaged inside the box with your game"
I think that just means that the game and artbook will both come in the same Amazon package, as opposed to shipping separately. I'm pretty sure the same message was used for Eternal Poison and Luminous Arc 2.

[Nirron]

Mine only comes up to $114.96 with the strategy guide. What else did you purchase?

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C6GVI6) $34.99
- Persona 4: Amazon.com Exclusive Social Link Expansion Pack (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001H14C8C) $29.99
- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 The Official Strategy Guide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979884861) $19.99
- P4 Official Design Works (Persona 4 Artbook - 191 Pages) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LEXMCW) $29.99

Well, I know it's a tiny tiny savings compared to how much everything costs, but if you want the strategy guide about 3 bucks cheaper, DoubleJump (the publisher of the guide) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Persona-4-official-strategy-guide-Cyber-Monday-sale_W0QQitemZ300277656325QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13996 9QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2) is selling it for 13.69 + shipping, which comes out around $17. $3 off a $115 order, I know it's not much but hey, every buck helps.

[donburns99]

Well, I know it's a tiny tiny savings compared to how much everything costs, but if you want the strategy guide about 3 bucks cheaper, DoubleJump (the publisher of the guide) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Persona-4-official-strategy-guide-Cyber-Monday-sale_W0QQitemZ300277656325QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13996 9QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2) is selling it for 13.69 + shipping, which comes out around $17. $3 off a $115 order, I know it's not much but hey, every buck helps.Thanks, I didn't realize that.

[shrike4242]

Well, I know it's a tiny tiny savings compared to how much everything costs, but if you want the strategy guide about 3 bucks cheaper, DoubleJump (the publisher of the guide) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Persona-4-official-strategy-guide-Cyber-Monday-sale_W0QQitemZ300277656325QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13996 9QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2) is selling it for 13.69 + shipping, which comes out around $17. $3 off a $115 order, I know it's not much but hey, every buck helps.Nice. Little savings, but better than nothing.

[donburns99]

Nice. Little savings, but better than nothing.I forgot to do it until it was too late, but you can probably use Live Search to activate the 25% off Microsoft promotion before confirming the purchase. Making $13.69 into only $10.27, but you have to wait the 75 days to get the $3.32 savings back from PayPal I believe.

[SDC]

I forgot to do it until it was too late, but you can probably use Live Search to activate the 25% off Microsoft promotion before confirming the purchase. Making $13.69 into only $10.27, but you have to wait the 75 days to get the $3.32 savings back from PayPal I believe.

Thanks for the tip, but I couldn't get this to work for me. Well, that isn't entirely true. I got to the step before confirmation, but I hadn't seen the little "Live Search cashback" thing while going through Paypal, so I backed out.
When does it show up? Only at the end?

[MSI Magus]

How well does double jump usually package their stuff? I am thinking of going out and getting it in Person at gamestop on Monday vs ordering it from Amazon because Amazon has been shipping my stuff in paper containers or in other ways that cause the guide to come damaged.

[donburns99]

Thanks for the tip, but I couldn't get this to work for me. Well, that isn't entirely true. I got to the step before confirmation, but I hadn't seen the little "Live Search cashback" thing while going through Paypal, so I backed out.
When does it show up? Only at the end?You should have seen it on top of the EBay page, after it says "Hi, name".

It looks like this:
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/promo/magic/pmoGleam25_150x23.gif

For the conditions of what happens when, take a quick read of the fine print here (http://pages.ebay.com/cashbackoffer/terms.html?_trksid=m38).

This has to be activated before making the purchase with Buy Now.

That's the mistake I made, I forgot about this promotion until after the purchase.

[botticus]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but I figured I'd let anyone know who was curious. I got my copy in today of the FES bundle from Amazon (soundtrack and art book), and it is, indeed, the same box that came with original version of Persona 3. Only thing that's different is FES is in there and not P3.Is FES sealed up separately inside the box?

[donburns99]

Is FES sealed up separately inside the box?Yes, it was. (Mine also came in today.)

-Slipcase was not sealed.
-P3 FES was sealed in the slipcase.
-The art book was behind FES in the slipcase, unsealed.
-The soundtrack was in a paper sleeve, placed inside the back cover of the art book.

[Antic]

Gah, I forgot who exactly I was going in with on the social expansion so I could only get the soundtrack.

[donburns99]

How well does double jump usually package their stuff? I am thinking of going out and getting it in Person at gamestop on Monday vs ordering it from Amazon because Amazon has been shipping my stuff in paper containers or in other ways that cause the guide to come damaged.From the EBay listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/Persona-4-official-strategy-guide-Cyber-Monday-sale_W0QQitemZ300277656325QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13996 9QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l126 2):

We treat each order as if it were our own and use as much bubble wrap as we possibly can fit in the packaging you choose, to ensure these awesome books arrive in pristine condition. We do not believe in trying to make a profit on the shipping, so we charge no more than the cost of the shipping plus packing materials (handling).

We do combine shipping on multiple orders as long as they are all being shipped from the same place and all will fit in the same package.

When you buy from DoubleJump, your satisfaction is our number one priority. If you do not feel comfortable giving us 5-star ratings across the board, please contact us so that we can make things right. Use the "Ask seller a question" link above and we will be more than happy to immediately assist you.

This item is now in stock and shipping.

[zewone]

Yes, it was. (Mine also came in today.)

-Slipcase was not sealed.
-P3 FES was sealed in the slipcase.
-The art book was behind FES in the slipcase, unsealed.
-The soundtrack was in a paper sleeve, placed inside the back cover of the art book.

Mine came today as well, and the slipcase was sealed. They had an insert in the back talking about Atlus faithful and Persona 4 info.

[misbitski]

The whole "atlus games are rare" thing stopped a long time ago. Stop buying games based on the idea that they won't be in stock.


QFT

You have a better shot of the art book being worth something than the game, and even that would be minimal given they're releasing a full art book. They print too many copies of games these days for them to be valuable.

I'm a sucker for art book preorder bonuses, but I canceled my order. I bought a ton of cheap games for BF, and I'm confident this will drop down the road when there's time to play it.

[Maromi]

Mine came today as well, and the slipcase was sealed. They had an insert in the back talking about Atlus faithful and Persona 4 info.

Mine too. It's really strange that your slipcase wasn't sealed...

[TheMaidenOfSorrow]

I cant believe ppl actually bit for the expansion pack. its just weeaboo bait.

[donburns99]

I cant believe ppl actually bit for the expansion pack. its just weeaboo bait.Or they have girlfriends who'd love the plush and t-shirt, Japanese or not.

[MSI Magus]

I cant believe ppl actually bit for the expansion pack. its just weeaboo bait.

Wasnt a bad deal and will look nice in my collection. Fiancee even approved.

[jollydwarf]

When this game ships next week, it's the last non-XBLA/Virtual Console game I'm getting in 2008.

When going about three weeks without buying a game is a big deal:

a.) You know you spend too much time on CAG.
b.) You have a real fucking problem.

Yes, I admit...I have a real fucking problem. My backlog could keep me busy through Obama's first term. That kind of problem.

[Green Card200]

QFT

You have a better shot of the art book being worth something than the game, and even that would be minimal given they're releasing a full art book. They print too many copies of games these days for them to be valuable.

I'm a sucker for art book preorder bonuses, but I canceled my order. I bought a ton of cheap games for BF, and I'm confident this will drop down the road when there's time to play it.

Yea I agree on this 100%. I mean I waited three weeks for Eternal Poison and as you all know it was $19.96 yesterday. That is freaking 50% off of MSRP. Then again I am buying P4 at release. With the gold box discount it is $33.24 and I don't really see it going below $29.99 for at least a month after it comes out since this will definitely sell better than EP but who knows I could be wrong. I preordered for the artbook but I have heard amazon doesn't ship artbooks with much care. I am considering preordering at GS for the artbook and returning it.

[botticus]

Yes, it was. (Mine also came in today.)

-Slipcase was not sealed.
-P3 FES was sealed in the slipcase.
-The art book was behind FES in the slipcase, unsealed.
-The soundtrack was in a paper sleeve, placed inside the back cover of the art book.Excellent. Just need a sealed FES to sell for $20 to break even since I already opened my copy from April.

[MSI Magus]

So heres a question for you guys. What system do you think Persona 5 will be on? Will they stick with the Playstation brand but do the obvious and move to the PS3? Will they show some major balls and keep the series on the PS2? Or maybe break trend and hit the 360?

Personally I think its a 50/50 toss up between PS3 and PS2. Hoping for PS2.

[SDC]

MSI: I suppose the PS2 has some life left in it, but I'd be very surprised if the PS2 got another relatively high-profile release so long after the major development for the system had stopped. I think this will be the last.

[Nirron]

So heres a question for you guys. What system do you think Persona 5 will be on? Will they stick with the Playstation brand but do the obvious and move to the PS3? Will they show some major balls and keep the series on the PS2? Or maybe break trend and hit the 360?

Personally I think its a 50/50 toss up between PS3 and PS2. Hoping for PS2.

I think it really depends on when it's released. If we see Persona 5 coming out by late 09 or in the first month or two in 2010, then I'd say it's got a good chance of being on the PS2.

Anything beyond April 2010, I'd give a huge edge to an 8th generation system; whether they move to the 360 or the PS3 I don't know. They've put out games for the 360, but perhaps they'll follow in the footsteps of NIS putting their "big" game (Disgaea) on the PS3. I know there were rumors of a SMT game on the PS3 for a long long time, so who knows.
And apparently the time to go from Persona 3 to Persona 4 was roughly 2 and a half years in Japan, and roughly a year and a half in America, so the next iteration will probably be on an 8th gen console in 2010, or so I shall venture to guess.

[UberNinjaz]

So heres a question for you guys. What system do you think Persona 5 will be on? Will they stick with the Playstation brand but do the obvious and move to the PS3? Will they show some major balls and keep the series on the PS2? Or maybe break trend and hit the 360?

Personally I think its a 50/50 toss up between PS3 and PS2. Hoping for PS2.
Most likely PS2 but I'm hoping for 360 over PS3 to be honest. Yes, I know Persona & basically the whole SMT franchise has been on Sony systems from the start (not counting the SMT titles released only in Japan on NES &/or SNES) but larger number of 360 owners compared to PS3 would be a better choice if they ever switched generations.

But whatever, hopefully never ends up as a Wii-exclusive.

[beerme]

^ Wii :whee:

[62t]

Most likely PS2 but I'm hoping for 360 over PS3 to be honest. Yes, I know Persona & basically the whole SMT franchise has been on Sony systems from the start (not counting the SMT titles released only in Japan on NES &/or SNES) but larger number of 360 owners compared to PS3 would be a better choice if they ever switched generations.

But whatever, hopefully never ends up as a Wii-exclusive.

Xbox 360 owner only matters in the USA, and so far not a single SMT or Persona game sold more than 1 million in the USA.

[Ryuukishi]

Hasn't Atlus already announced that the next Megaten game is being developed for PS3? That would either be Shin Megami Tensei 4 or Persona 5.

[buckythekat]

Xbox 360 owner only matters in the USA, and so far not a single SMT or Persona game sold more than 1 million in the USA.

I doubt any of them have sold over 250,000 even

Hasn't Atlus already announced that the next Megaten game is in development for PS3? That would either be Shin Megami Tensei 4 or Persona 5.

yea they did

[Rodster]

Most likely PS2 but I'm hoping for 360 over PS3 to be honest. Yes, I know Persona & basically the whole SMT franchise has been on Sony systems from the start (not counting the SMT titles released only in Japan on NES &/or SNES) but larger number of 360 owners compared to PS3 would be a better choice if they ever switched generations.

But whatever, hopefully never ends up as a Wii-exclusive.

I say the 360. :bouncy:

Last year Atlus said they are bringing their RPG's to the 360. I'll try and find the link.

http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/atlus-becomes-third-party-publisher-for-xbox-360/
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6183068.html

[62t]

Hasn't Atlus already announced that the next Megaten game is being developed for PS3? That would either be Shin Megami Tensei 4 or Persona 5.

Actually is it going to be Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor for DS. Out next month in Japan
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0811/game081112a.shtml

I say the 360. :bouncy:

Last year Atlus said they are bringing their RPG's to the 360. I'll try and find the link.

http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/atlus-becomes-third-party-publisher-for-xbox-360/
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6183068.html

that just Atlus USA, who is publishing games that are already made. It has no influence on Atlus Japan

[artego]

Atlus Japan had that ad up a while back for developers on both the 360 and PS3. Chances are any new next-gen game of theirs is gonna be multiplatform.

[buckythekat]

Actually is it going to be Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor for DS. Out next month in Japan
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0811/game081112a.shtml

I don't think that game has been officially tied to the Shin Meg Ten series (though yea it definitely looks like one) nor would it be the game they announced they were working on for the PS3 since they one they announced was from the main series

if anything that DS game is another spinoff like the Persona, Digital Devil Saga, and Devil Summoner games

I say the 360. :bouncy:

Last year Atlus said they are bringing their RPG's to the 360. I'll try and find the link.

http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/atlus-becomes-third-party-publisher-for-xbox-360/
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6183068.html


yea those games were called Operation Darkness, Spectral Force 3, and Zoids Assault

didn't exactly work out well for Atlus

[zewone]

yea those games were called Operation Darkness, Spectral Force 3, and Zoids Assault

didn't exactly work out well for Atlus

It's their fault for putting garbage out and expecting it to sell.

[Jesse_Dylan]

It's their fault for putting garbage out and expecting it to sell.

I remember reading Famitsu reviews at the time of Operation Darkness and wondering why they'd choose that for localization. Pretty sad when Spectral Force 3 was the best of the group, and it was definitely an acquired taste (which I never bothered to acquire). Hasn't Atlus already announced that the next Megaten game is being developed for PS3? That would either be Shin Megami Tensei 4 or Persona 5.

I think they meant Shin Megami Tensei proper for that, not Persona or any of the other offshoots, but I could be wrong. As for P5, I wouldn't even rule out PSP and DS. Portable is all the rage in Japan right now. I'd kind of like to see the niche RPGs start coming out on the PS3. It's my vision for the system. I don't frankly care, though. I'll buy good games on whatever platform they're released on.

[buckythekat]

It's their fault for putting garbage out and expecting it to sell.

Operation Darkness could have been very good if it weren't for the fucking awful camera

[IronMonkey008]

But whatever, hopefully never ends up as a Wii-exclusive.

God I hope not.

I think it will be PS3. I don't really see it coming out on the 360, but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Dragon Quest and make it on the DS or PSP.

[UberNinjaz]

It's their fault for putting garbage out and expecting it to sell.
THIS.

[Jesse_Dylan]

THIS.

That?

[UberNinjaz]

That?

Its an internet thing...

Basically, I'm agreeing with what he said.

[Jesse_Dylan]

Its an internet thing...

Basically, I'm agreeing with what he said.

Oh, I see. Yes. I wish they would pay more attention to what the Japanese gaming enthusiast press thinks before picking up a title for release here, but then again, maybe they have to choose titles before they're even finished in Japan. (That's probably a bad idea, I'd think, unless it's a surefire hit like Persona 4.)

[botticus]

The US matters little as far as Persona goes. P3 was the highest selling Atlus USA game not called Trauma Center, and it sold a third of what it did in Japan. So the 360 is unlikely. Either PS3 or Wii.

[MSI Magus]

The US matters little as far as Persona goes. P3 was the highest selling Atlus USA game not called Trauma Center, and it sold a third of what it did in Japan. So the 360 is unlikely. Either PS3 or Wii.

I am not sure how much this matters. The PS3 is hard and expensive to develop for and other RPGs are hitting the 360. I think the PS3 is still more likely......but I dont think the 360 should be discounted yet. Maybe this will be Atluses first major multi console release(highly doubt it).

[Slermy]

For those that are interested, the Art Book is no longer in stock. I had forgotten to order it! :(

[jacknicklson]

I just saw the artbook mentioned on Amazon for the first time in a week or so. Check again!

[MSI Magus]

For those that are interested, the Art Book is no longer in stock. I had forgotten to order it! :(

I am assuming you are referring to the art book that was $30 not the art book that comes with pre orders. If so I bet it will come back in stock but either way I am glad I ordered mine. Someone said that its the same as a book released in Japan in which case there will always be more flooding the market.

[daminion]

So heres a question for you guys. What system do you think Persona 5 will be on? Will they stick with the Playstation brand but do the obvious and move to the PS3? Will they show some major balls and keep the series on the PS2? Or maybe break trend and hit the 360?

Personally I think its a 50/50 toss up between PS3 and PS2. Hoping for PS2.

Would be interesting to see a dual PS2/PS3 release -- 2 disks, 1 case. Let folks play it on the Playstation system of their choice.

It's not like these games require the PS3 horsepower to run, but I'd still rather play it on the PS3, even if the graphics were the same as a PS2.