Two little pricks hang a kitten with a PS2 controller. Sheriff blames GTA, naturally

[Sofa King Kool]

http://www.azfamily.com/pets/animalnews/stories/mesa-local-news-120508-boys-stone-kitten.329504d5.html

[docvinh]

I'm not going to lie, I think 6 and 7 year olds probably shouldn't be playing GTA.

[pitfallharry219]

That sheriff and his department have been the subject of many criticisms over the years.

Check out his wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

I wonder what game caused them to kill an animal?

In 2004, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office SWAT team led a raid on a home in a gated subdivision, looking for illegal weapons. No illegal weapons were found, but during the raid, the house burned down, killing a dog, and an armored vehicle rolled into a neighbor's parked car.

[antlp89]

Wow that is messed up. R.I.P. my man.

[mitch079]

This article screams of bad parenting, neglect, and a dysfunctional family, but sure, blame it on the game.

[Z_meista]

of course it's gta's fault. it' always gta's fault. have you heard about a cop who pulled over a car where the man was driving his wife to the hospital, asks for proof the his wife was indeed pregnant, and gave them a ticket? let's blame gta for that too!

http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_featured:309dd298a77344e16427ae38b7d29684

[Moffman82]

What a bunch of sick little bastards. May God have mercy on their souls and give that poor little kitten a spot on his couch in heaven.

[georox]

It's good nothing like this has happened locally.. or I would be posting this from Canada/Mexico right now after two children have been hung with barbed wire.

Edit - Is there a license for cleaning the genepool? Who would I need to talk to about getting one made...

Honestly, articles like this remind me why I hate people. How stupid have we gotten? Honestly.

[Will]

This article screams of bad parenting, neglect, and a dysfunctional family, but sure, blame it on the game.

Right...lets not place blame where it truly belongs......

[Lord_Kefka]

Ugh. Forget the GTA angle, this kind of socially deviant behavior from a pair of kids killing a kitten is a major meltdown point for me. That's just disgusting. And the article pretty much leads to not much can be done about it so let's blame the video games. Fuck that. Get those kids some major counseling right now.

[crunchb3rry]

"Get those kids some major counseling right now."

Or hang them until they pass out. Then put smelling salts under their noses and do it again.

This reminds me of the jarhead fuckface in Iraq that threw that dog off a cliff for shits and giggles. I hope somebody fragged that guy.

[zman73]

This article screams of bad parenting, neglect, and a dysfunctional family, but sure, blame it on the game.

Exactly... parents are so paranoid of appearing to others as being strict let their kids watch adult movies and play games like this when they really shouldnt be... the kids grow up to be snotty and spoiled and the parents turn around and blame a game or the government... it so sickens me

And killing a defenseless animal of any kind just sickens me, but unfortunately it doesnt surprise me. I remember driving to work and in two spots finding dying KITTENS flopping around on the side of the road. Apparently finding loving homes for these animals or better yet taking the time and small expense to spay or neuter your animal is just too much to ask for. This person is lucky I didnt catch them, I would have followed them, called police and saw them arrested for animal cruelty

[Ender]

Exactly... parents are so paranoid of appearing to others as being strict let their kids watch adult movies and play games like this when they really shouldnt be... the kids grow up to be snotty and spoiled and the parents turn around and blame a game or the government... it so sickens me

And killing a defenseless animal of any kind just sickens me, but unfortunately it doesnt surprise me. I remember driving to work and in two spots finding dying KITTENS flopping around on the side of the road. Apparently finding loving homes for these animals or better yet taking the time and small expense to spay or neuter your animal is just too much to ask for. This person is lucky I didnt catch them, I would have followed them, called police and saw them arrested for animal cruelty

I agree 100%. At the risk of sounding cliche, I believe parenting to be the most important thing you'll ever do with your life. At the very least, it will have the most long-reaching effects. How you raise your kids will affect how your kids raise their own kids, and so forth and so on. Being strict is not a negative thing; if you love your kids, you'll keep them on the straight and narrow, and not "be their friend".

Anyway, GTA is not directly at fault for this heinous act. However, I do believe the parents of these kids should never have let them play such a mature game at that age. Kids will go as far as you let them; the blame here lies with the adults.

[detectiveconan16]

I guess people literally take the term "spare the rod, and spoil the child" all too seriously.
There's nothing wrong with a little coporal punishment to set kids straight. Ah Bernie Mac, you are missed.

[help1]

Wait, you can rape women in GTA? Having sex with them, yes, but is having sex with a prostitute rape?

[Sofa King Kool]

Wait, you can rape women in GTA? Having sex with them, yes, but is having sex with a prostitute rape?


No, but if it will get more people to blindly rally against GTA, someone will say it.

[DarkSageRK]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.

[SpeedyG]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.
You're right! If it was a human I wouldn't give a damn, but a poor defenseless feline... String those kids up by their short and curlies.

[ITDEFX]

First that idiot who gets kicks off of throwing a puppy off a cliff and video taping it now this shit?!?!?!?!?!

I say we hang THEM with PS2 Controllers!!!

[Dante Devil]

This article screams of bad parenting, neglect, and a dysfunctional family, but sure, blame it on the game.

That's exactly right. I bet this parents use videogames as a babysitter or somthing to occupy their time.

[bigdaddy]

I'm not going to lie, I think 6 and 7 year olds probably shouldn't be playing GTA.


No one under 18 should be playing it, or have the right to buy it.

However blaming the game is insane, blame the kids and the fucked up family, because that's always much more likely.

[neverletthem]

That's messed up. Though, they always seem to say that serial killers kill animals before humans, so, I'd watch these kids.

[Access_Denied]

Well this is totally believable, as everyone knows you can stone and hang kittens in GTA. We need to put blame where it belongs, on his parents. Any parent who lets their 7 year old play GTA is a fucking idiot.

[JolietJake]

I'm telling super cat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/guinaevere/catjustice.jpg

[help1]

Its the parents fault, not GTA.

They shoulda bought them a PS3 or a 360... wireless controllers for the win.

[help1]

No one under 18 should be playing it, or have the right to buy it.



The ESRB suggests you to be 17, not 18.

[georox]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.

Your right, a human would probably deserve it. Kids might've been a hero then. Lets be honest, we could really go for a nice cleansing right now with the people we are currently stuck with.

[lokizz]

well i always said rockstar would get in trouble for adding in that kitten hanging mini game........ everytime a dumbass does something stupid gta gets the blame and a decade or so ago beavis and butthead were the ones who got blamed i wonder who will get the blame in the next decade. well at least the devil is off the hook now i suppose for all the bad in the world.

[crystalklear64]

wtf? It was just a cat.

[bigdaddy]

The ESRB suggests you to be 17, not 18.

Oh I thought it was "Over 17", meaning 18+. I never really pay attention. The problem is even if the ratings were enforced parents still buy these terrible (for little kids) games for 10 year olds. People should go up to the parents and go "Do you buy porn for your 10 year old? Maybe a case of beer? That's exactly what you are doing by buying the game". Parents are idiots.

[ITDEFX]

wtf? It was just a cat.


WTF?


Does not matter if it was a cat, dog, deer, chicken or another animal. Did the cat attack those two bastards and give them rabies?? NO..it was probably wondering around looking for food when those two fucks decided it would be cool to kill it PS2 style.

Man if I was close to them, I would volunteer to beat the shit out of them.

[georox]

wtf? It was just a cat.

Welcome to how I think about humans, you just joined the list.

[DarkSageRK]

WTF?


Does not matter if it was a cat, dog, deer, chicken or another animal. Did the cat attack those two bastards and give them rabies?? NO..it was probably wondering around looking for food when those two fucks decided it would be cool to kill it PS2 style.

Man if I was close to them, I would volunteer to beat the shit out of them.

I don't think you understand his point.

See, he values humans above cats, and you value cats above humans. There is, of course, a spectrum here, but you're advocating extreme violence against a second and a first grader.

Check your priorities, please.

[georox]

I don't think you understand his point.

See, he values humans above cats, and you value cats above humans. There is, of course, a spectrum here, but you're advocating extreme violence against a second and a first grader.

Check your priorities, please.

Darwin should have sorted the kids out at an earlier age, good point.

[Veronica Mars]

I don't value cats more then humans, but the kids had no right to hang the cat or any other living creature. I love my pets, and would be devastated if someone did this to my pets. I think the parent's should be held responsible for not keeping tabs on their children.

[SithFran]

WTF?


Does not matter if it was a cat, dog, deer, chicken or another animal. Did the cat attack those two bastards and give them rabies?? NO..it was probably wondering around looking for food when those two fucks decided it would be cool to kill it PS2 style.

Man if I was close to them, I would volunteer to beat the shit out of them.

Isn't he a major bible thumper? Somehow, god's two leg creatures are worth more than four legs, all because god looks like us and not them.

I don't think you understand his point.

See, he values humans above cats, and you value cats above humans. There is, of course, a spectrum here, but you're advocating extreme violence against a second and a first grader.

Check your priorities, please.

Priority should be no hostility at all toward any animal semi-intelligent two legs or harmless four legs. But since they opened the door, they should be treated with the old biblical wrath of god.

Otherwise, if this is let go which is what it seems as of that article, you'll be complaining when they grow up and kill a human.

I just happen to live in this city and would be willing to help straighten those kids out.

[Koggit]

I think a lot of you are overreacting...

Those kids are sick to be sure, it's disheartening that they did that, but it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.. do you outraged folks feel that strongly about all life, or is it a cat thing? would you be just as outraged if they had killed something less cute, like a bear or alligator?

Actually I think bears are often much cuter than cats. Alligators are pretty ugly though.

[lokizz]

something needs to happen with these kids. its obvious theyre heading down a path that in the future could have them killing people. yeah in my day we killed bugs and crawdaddies but i never took it up the food chain. i dunno its just sad how little people value life. hell i cant stand cats ( theyre the bringers of evil and pestilence right up there with spiders) but i never would want to kill one.

their actions could say something about their homelife but who knows since the police couldnt communicate with the parents. where are the parents from anyway? im assuming theyre not mexican since being in arizona im sure theyd have a few cops there who could speak spanish.

[BigSpoonyBard]

I think a lot of you are overreacting...

Those kids are sick to be sure, it's disheartening that they did that, but it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.. do you outraged folks feel that strongly about all life, or is it a cat thing? would you be just as outraged if they had killed something less cute, like a bear or alligator?

Actually I think bears are often much cuter than cats. Alligators are pretty ugly though.

Actually, yes, I would, as long as the animal posed no threat to anyone. If you go out and purposefully find an alligator to hurt just for the sake of hurting it, you're an ass and you should probably have your ass kicked. The thing is, as humans, we have the ability to make rational decisions beyond basic necessity (food, etc). Actively hurting something just because we can is terrible, no matter what the animal. If it's a cute animal that could never truly harm anyone, then it's even worse.

The fact is that the kids should be punished. No, they shouldn't go to jail or anything of the sort, but there is obviously a master class in poor parenting occurring. Ultimately, the parents are to blame. I don't care about the "language differences" they had, you can be a good parent in any language.

[the_deej]

Its the parents fault, not GTA.

They shoulda bought them a PS3 or a 360... wireless controllers for the win.

thanks for the lawl :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Jesus_S_Preston]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.

Well, you're an idiot.

[crystalklear64]

WTF?


Does not matter if it was a cat, dog, deer, chicken or another animal. Did the cat attack those two bastards and give them rabies?? NO..it was probably wondering around looking for food when those two fucks decided it would be cool to kill it PS2 style.

Man if I was close to them, I would volunteer to beat the shit out of them.
I really hope you're a vegetarian.

[GuilewasNK]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.


There are laws agaisnt animal cruelty, and most serial killers get their start by torturing or killing animals at a young age.

Come on now. :roll:

[DarkSageRK]

There are laws agaisnt animal cruelty, and most serial killers get their start by torturing or killing animals at a young age.

Come on now. :roll:

Correlation != Causation

[crystalklear64]

I've seen the light. How could I have been so silly? Of course if you kill a cat you shouldn't have time wasted on you in a manner to "fix" whatever is wrong with you, you should be killed in the same manner!

It's all so klear now.

An eye for an eye after all.

There are laws agaisnt animal cruelty, and most serial killers get their start by torturing or killing animals at a young age.

Come on now. :roll:
Most? Every study I've seen has it at around 15-30%.

Did you know that 100% of serial killers drank water? Ban that shit!

[GuilewasNK]

Correlation != Causation

Sorry man, I still remember your "logic" in this thread. :lol:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202413



Most? Every study I've seen has it at around 15-30%.

Did you know that 100% of serial killers drank water? Ban that shit!

So do people with penis avatars, the Amish, and Jesus. The water thing seems irrelvant now doesn't it? ;)

[crystalklear64]

Jesus is a serial killer. Breaking news heard here first @ CAG.

[georox]

would you be just as outraged if they had killed something less cute, like a bear or alligator?


If I saw on the news "Two children attempted to hang bear/alligator because of GTAIV, the gator/bear ate them." I would fucking laugh. While cheering. Seriously. Some people just shouldn't be here. The kitten has no chance to fight back, a bear/gator could just go *chomp*. Honestly, I think I would pay to see these kids thrown to one of the two. Or both at once maybe.

[Sofa King Kool]

Or both at once maybe.

I wouldn't mind seeing a little tug-of-war between the two...

[Lord_Kefka]

I still say force those kids into counseling. It's a disturbing start. It could be nothing, or it could be the start of further deviant behavior. It's not a matter of cute animal or being a vegetarian or any dumb shit like that. These kids found something smaller and weaker than them (not a bear of an alligator) and then KILLED IT. The question is....for what reason? It was a kitten.

It's animal cruelty and easily a start of future violence. But you're all right, it means nothing....it wasn't something you personally care about. Next time maybe it's some little bastard in your neighborhood who kills your pet.

[crystalklear64]

If you would like to see a human torn in half by an alligator and a bear, what makes you any different from those two boys?

[DarkSageRK]

Sorry man, I still remember your "logic" in this thread. :lol:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202413

I guess I shouldn't have expected an argument beyond "Haha, I disagreed with you in another thread too" from someone as logically bereft as yourself.

Do you have any actual point to make, or are you able to admit that your original statement was misleading?

[ikariwarriors]

Absolutely disgusting. I don't even care that they blame video games or not, it sickens me when I read about incredibly stupid and selfish children committing violence against family pets.

[georox]

If you would like to see a human torn in half by an alligator and a bear, what makes you any different from those two boys?

Those two deserve it. Eye for an eye, bitches.

[dmaul1114]

Jesus the world is full of idiots and assholes.

And apparently at leaset 75% of them post on CAG.

[GaveUpTomorrow]

Jesus the world is full of idiots and assholes.

And apparently at least 75% of them post on CAG.

Agreed. At least one good thing came of this thread though, I got to see who a couple of those idiots/assholes were and added them to my ignore list so that I never have to read their BS again.

Honestly, anyone who thinks its "No big deal" to kill a cat or any other living creature for no good reason needs to have their head re-adjusted. How do you wake up every morning knowing you have no morals? I'd expect if you don't know that killing something is a big deal, you have NO idea what the difference is between right and wrong.

These two kids need serious help now, as well as their parents. I can only hope the state/involved parties get them the help they need before they do something far worse in the future.

[Koggit]

a bear/gator could just go *chomp*

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/25000/25207_w.jpg

[georox]

I vote all acts of extreme stupidity are to be met with a Gator or a Bear. I made them proper nouns as I feel we will name the bear, Gator, and the gator Bear. We could make it a PPV event, "Deathmatch: Man Vs. Animals With Huge Pointy Fangs."

[GuilewasNK]

I could understand why this would be a big deal if they hung a human, but it's a fucking cat.

Come on now.

If you don't think it's a big deal then by all means go to your neighbor and hang their kittens, or find a stray, then tell your family members or your girlfriend you did it. I'm sure the response you get will be enlightening.

Those were two little kids man. You REALLY think it is normal for little kids (or anyone) to do that?



I guess I shouldn't have expected an argument beyond "Haha, I disagreed with you in another thread too" from someone as logically bereft as yourself.

Do you have any actual point to make, or are you able to admit that your original statement was misleading?


See above.

Now, that being said, I don't advocate violence in response to animal cruelty regardless if it was Michael Vick or these kids, but but to think it isn't a big deal?

[horrido]

They are six, and seven years old. Give them a break, you witch hunters.

[zman73]

They are six, and seven years old. Give them a break, you witch hunters.

They should still know better about the value of life... all this talk from certain people about "they are just kittens"... sound like the people who used the same argument to defend that piece of crap Michael Vick (Im ashamed to from the same hometown as him) despite the details about what happened. Im not advocating a witch hunt against the kids (but the parents who dont give a shit about parenting children during their most important years that allow behavior like this to foster on the other hand... but Im sure THEY will just blame the government and GTA) but to so easily dismiss it shows how ignorant some people can be.

[crystalklear64]

People seem to be misunderstanding or we have a lot of furfriends in here.

Human>Kitten.

Its not a matter of "just kittens" its a matter of "I want to beat the shit out of a kid, possibly causing brain damage/further psychological damage/severe irrevocable injury" or "I want to see these kids killed."

It's not easily dismissed. It is a loss of perspective on many of ya'lls part. Sure, its sad they killed a cat, but in the grand scheme of things, its really not all that important. 1 non-human life was lost. Bawwwww. You're lying if you say you've never killed anything. Even the adamant who insist they've never harmed an insect, think of the bacteria! They have lives too!!

[Monsta Mack]

They should have it on their records permanently and be forced to tell everyone about what they did.

"So honey, when I was young I killed a kitten with PS2 controller cords. Pretty cool huh."

lol @ blaming the parents for not buying wireless controllers.

[zman73]

People seem to be misunderstanding or we have a lot of furfriends in here.

Human>Kitten.

Its not a matter of "just kittens" its a matter of "I want to beat the shit out of a kid, possibly causing brain damage/further psychological damage/severe irrevocable injury" or "I want to see these kids killed."

It's not easily dismissed. It is a loss of perspective on many of ya'lls part. Sure, its sad they killed a cat, but in the grand scheme of things, its really not all that important. 1 non-human life was lost. Bawwwww. You're lying if you say you've never killed anything. Even the adamant who insist they've never harmed an insect, think of the bacteria! They have lives too!!

Oh geez... I dont think ANYONE disagrees with your assessment that HUMAN>KITTEN... In the grand scheme of things the boy in Arizona who shot his father and the other man, thats a much more serious story... My bitching was more in lines with the parents who allow such things to happen in part by not filtering out anything their young impressionable children are exposed to at such a young age (not saying GTA is responsible for this act, it isnt....)... the story is just a small part of what I see as a growing problem with parents... years ago this would be much more outrageous... it is today, but Im not suprised something like this happened... Im afraid of what children will be like 20 years from now... in a world today where we can see an 8 year old shoot and kill 2 men one of which was his father... I worry...

[dmaul1114]

I don't think anyone's suggesting that kittens should be valued as much as human life, or that these kids should be locked up for life or any of that shit.

It's depressing that some people here think that killing a kitten isn't a big deal. But it's CAG and full of a bunch of loud mouths just hitting puberty so it's to be expected I guess.

[crystalklear64]

Oh geez... I dont think ANYONE disagrees with your assessment that HUMAN>KITTEN...
Pretty sure at least one person does...

[SithFran]

Me. I actually don't think a human life is worth more than any other creatures life. Why should I? We are all living creatures and should be treated the same. Are you trying to tell me that some white trash redneck that beats his wife is worth more than my dog just because he's human? There are other more extreme examples but the point was made already. I'm sure my last post seemed harsh but I'm tired of people dismissing animal cruelty just because "we human, we rulez. Iz just an animal."

Oh, I'm sure I'm messed up because I'm a vegetarian and an atheist. I have no morals or common sense.

[GuilewasNK]

Me. I actually don't think a human life is worth more than any other creatures life. Why should I? We are all living creatures and should be treated the same. Are you trying to tell me that some white trash redneck that beats his wife is worth more than my dog just because he's human? There are other more extreme examples but the point was made already.

Well, to be fair a brain surgeon that saves lives is worth more than a skunk that takes a crap in the woods.

Another example...

If I had to choose between saving someone in my family or my dog, my family wins that everytime. Now that is a tangent to the OP's topic, but there are definitely more times than not that a human life is worth more than an animal. I guess we can all agree it depends on the human (I'm not shedding any tears for bin Laden for example).

Still no excuse for animal cruelty though.

[Koggit]

Most (if not all) animals do not possess the mental capacity required for conscious suffering at the same level as humans, so killing them is very far from equally tragic. Only a fool would rank the two forms of "life" as equally valuable, they're on different levels.

[DF3]

Its not the fact that kittens were murdered by these kids but the act of violence itself that disturbs me. Taking the life of another living being is a sign of psychological problems.

As for GTA its the parents responsibility to monitor what their children view. There's a reason ratings are in place.

[Friend of Sonic]

I did not kill small animals for fun when I was a kid. I suppose I can't convince you all I had a normal childhood, but I didn't kill animals when I was a kid. That would make me a freak.

This has nothing to do with the value of a kitten's life. Even if the children don't develop into serial killers (No way of telling if they do at this point)they have already developed the interest of killing something significantly weaker than them for the fun of it. If no one sees the problem with that, then I guess I don't understand half of the people who posted in this thread.