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rebenns
09-09-2004, 10:07 AM
Check out this link

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/short2-.htm

It tells what is new / changed in the dvd's. At this point, it is still unofficial, and we won't know for sure what's changed until the DVD's actually hit the shelf, but I won't be surprised if most, if not all, of these changes are on the final dvd.

mtxbass1
09-09-2004, 10:12 AM
Here's a link, from digital bits, with pictures.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges.html

Ericnmel99
09-09-2004, 10:14 AM
DUde... theres already like 3 threads on this. Use the force and do a search.

daphatty
09-09-2004, 10:18 AM
I like the pictures from the second link. The video quality has VASTLY improved. I still don't like how Lucas changed the cantina scene with Gredo and Han. Han shoots first. Period.

Ledhed
09-09-2004, 10:23 AM
I like the pictures from the second link. The video quality has VASTLY improved. I still don't like how Lucas changed the cantina scene with Gredo and Han. Han shoots first. Period.

Triple T delivers unto us the truth. I still can't believe Han isn't shooting first.

dtcarson
09-09-2004, 10:52 AM
Okay, I'm reading the IGN review, and I see this:
"Yet these DVDs are arriving at a time where Star Wars fans are facing The End. Soon, Revenge of the Sith will arrive and fill in the final piece of the puzzle.'

I am not a 'fan' by any means, though of course I do enjoy the movies, and will probably get this set.

I thought there was supposed to be 9 movies, 3 trilogy arcs? Did Lucas decide 6 was enough, or it's taking too much time, or he might not be around to finish them all? Or am I incorrect in my memory?

Ledhed
09-09-2004, 10:58 AM
I thought there was supposed to be 9 movies, 3 trilogy arcs? Did Lucas decide 6 was enough, or it's taking too much time, or he might not be around to finish them all? Or am I incorrect in my memory?

There will only be another story arc if Lucas allows another director. He has said that he doesn't have the will or energy for another trilogy, therefore I doubt we'll see any more.

sblymnlcrymnl
09-09-2004, 11:47 AM
DUde... theres already like 3 threads on this. Use the force and do a search.

Yes, please.

moiety
09-09-2004, 01:21 PM
I like the pictures from the second link. The video quality has VASTLY improved. I still don't like how Lucas changed the cantina scene with Gredo and Han. Han shoots first. Period.

Because Lucas is an idiot. I will always hold the original releases above the SE's, and I have no interest in seeing the I or II. Granted, the improved video quality of the originals is a plus, but he shoudn't have altered or added scenes - simply unnecessary IMO.

EDIT: I was just going through the pictures in the second link - in the very last image from RotJ, why did Lucas change the hologram of David Prowse? I don't understand that, especially since I'm sure when Luke sees his father near the end, the scene will still be with David Prowse. Why would they show his younger self, when we're still seeing Alec Guiness. Sorry, I'm just appalled/confused by this! :?

coolsteel
09-09-2004, 02:50 PM
It is supposed to be an image of Anakin back when he was still on the good side of the force, since Obi Wan died a jedi he is shown old, same with Yoda. Personally I think it just looks stupid

moiety
09-09-2004, 03:45 PM
It is supposed to be an image of Anakin back when he was still on the good side of the force, since Obi Wan died a jedi he is shown old, same with Yoda. Personally I think it just looks stupid

Yeah, I guess I can understand that - but how would Luke know what his father looked like as a young man, since he was raised by his aunt and uncle. Pictures, maybe? Still, he sees his father in person for the first time the way David Prowse looked, so that's why I totally disagree with that change. Just picturing that scene in my head (it was always so resolving) - it's stupid now, to put it bluntly. Thanks for the input!

MrBadExample
09-09-2004, 03:49 PM
Will he go back and make Howard the Duck good now?

evilmax17
09-09-2004, 03:50 PM
I predict that this will be like New Coke. Everyone will hate it and be outraged, then they'll release Star Wars Classic, and it'll be the highest selling DVD ever.

Theenternal
09-09-2004, 03:58 PM
I predict that this will be like New Coke. Everyone will hate it and be outraged, then they'll release Star Wars Classic, and it'll be the highest selling DVD ever.

Nice Theory....and I wouldn't doubt that to happen..


Btw I was confused too about that final scene. Sure i guess the theory goes along with it. But Luke is going to be like... "whos that guy chillin with obi and yoda"

Alpha2
09-09-2004, 04:06 PM
It is supposed to be an image of Anakin back when he was still on the good side of the force, since Obi Wan died a jedi he is shown old, same with Yoda. Personally I think it just looks stupid

Yeah, I guess I can understand that - but how would Luke know what his father looked like as a young man, since he was raised by his aunt and uncle. Pictures, maybe? Still, he sees his father in person for the first time the way David Prowse looked, so that's why I totally disagree with that change. Just picturing that scene in my head (it was always so resolving) - it's stupid now, to put it bluntly. Thanks for the input!

Why shouldnt he recognize the younger Anakin? it's not like luke's witnessed a lot of Jedi deaths up to this point.

moiety
09-09-2004, 04:14 PM
Why shouldnt he recognize the younger Anakin? it's not like luke's witnessed a lot of Jedi deaths up to this point.

Not saying he wouldn't recognize him - it would obviously be his father. But it would just make more sense that he would appear to his son as somewhat older - reflecting the only time Luke had seen him. I mean, Luke's reaction to seeing them is a smile and acknowledgement. I would think that seeing his father as a young man - close to his own age - would change the reaction towards him a bit (not negatively by any means). I guess I didn't word it correctly. Maybe I am getting too technical. But aside from that, it all goes back to Lucas' unnecessary fooling around with the original.

bignick
09-09-2004, 04:18 PM
Check out this link

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/short2-.htm

It tells what is new / changed in the dvd's. At this point, it is still unofficial, and we won't know for sure what's changed until the DVD's actually hit the shelf, but I won't be surprised if most, if not all, of these changes are on the final dvd.

Its probably official. In order to make the release date, these DVDs have to be made by now.

rebenns
09-09-2004, 04:39 PM
I predict that this will be like New Coke. Everyone will hate it and be outraged, then they'll release Star Wars Classic, and it'll be the highest selling DVD ever.

Actually, this set has more preorders than any other dvd has sales, and that record was set way back at the beginning of summer. Even if you take cancellations / incomplete sales into account, this will still set all sorts of records. Also, several articles hinted that special, more fully loaded editions will likely be released in the future, as some excellent bonus materials are absent, such as deleted scenes. Chances are, though, these will just be the same ones that are released now, or perhaps even further altered.

coolsteel
09-09-2004, 05:04 PM
For those that want to see the Hayden scene at the end http://koti.mbnet.fi/dukeirot/ep3/dvd-trilogy/millenniumfalcon_rotjdvd_haydenchristensen.avi

Gameboy415
09-09-2004, 05:16 PM
I'm all for making the films look their best, but the Hayden scene at the end is complete bullshit.

Someone please explain this to me:

Why would Anakin appear as a young man while Obi Wan appears as an old man? They both died at roughly the same age (maybe a 5-10 yr difference). I mean if you're going to fuck it up, why not go all out and put in Ewan McGregor too...It just looks out of place and is just going to piss off all the fans that grew up with the original trilogy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still picking up the boxset on day one, but I'll always cringe at that scene.

Ericnmel99
09-09-2004, 05:21 PM
Someone please explain this to me:

Why would Anakin appear as a young man while Obi Wan appears as an old man? They both died at roughly the same age (maybe a 5-10 yr difference). I mean if you're going to shaq-fu it up, why not go all out and put in Ewan McGregor too...It just looks out of place and is just going to piss off all the fans that grew up with the original trilogy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still picking up the boxset on day one, but I'll always cringe at that scene.

I believe the reasoning behind the change is that he is going to appear as he did before he turned to the dark side. Muppet... i mean yoda and Obi Wan both died faithful to the force, where as Anakin turned to the dark side at a younger age. So when they re-appear, he comes back as his light sided self. I think.

Stryffe2004
09-09-2004, 05:27 PM
I actually think it was a good idea to add Hayden. Sebastian Shaw killed the whole Vader image when I saw him the 1st time back in 1982. Along with the Ewoks, he helped kill RoTJ. He just was no a menancing figure. Hayden may be kind of wimpy, but he did slaughter the sand people and some of the still have him looking a menancing. I can byuy him as Vader more than some opld guy that looks like a kindly uncle.

As far as the age thing, that was one of many mistakes Lucas has made. He should have used age progression to make him look somewhat older. Still, if Anakin appeared as he did when he died, he would be all burned and disfigured. The Anakin that appears is Anakin before he turned to the darkside and became Vader, so it makes some sense.

moiety
09-09-2004, 05:49 PM
Just watched that clip - the video quality is wonderful. Yet it's so unfortunate that they changed Anakin. Totally ruined the ending for me. He's so out of place as Anakin.

Stryffe:
Way before the prequels came out, I had always interpreted that scene as Anakin reverting to what he might have looked like if he hadn't gone to the Dark Side. Kind of like a 'gift' after dying - because he realized his mistake. The 'higher power' or whatever allowed him to appear to Luke let him show himself as he would have been at that time.

From what Lucas is doing, it's like he's trying to tie all the movies together, AFTER the fact of creating the prequels. It ruins the whole originality and uniqueness of the original trilogy. As is, they were perfect.

Alpha2
09-09-2004, 06:02 PM
Obviously lucus disacrees with you or there'd never be a special edition at all. When it all comes down to it the whole point is to create a better connection to the prequels.

As for the younger Anakin if you think about it a "force ghost" (or whatever the common starwars fan term for it is) is probably one of those things where you get to be your "ideal" self... and yes that would mean Obi Wan preffers being old.

madmage
09-09-2004, 06:38 PM
The reason they would show Obi Wan old and Vader young was because they would show them while they still weren't corrupted by the dark side. No I'm not sure exactly at what age Vader turned but he would have had to be pretty young if Luke was never able to see him. His uncle hid his father from him because he was evil, and if Luke never saw his father he must have turned around the time Luke was born. How old was Vader at the time the original trilogy took place?

Also, I was a HUGE SW fan around the time they rereleased the original trilogy in theaters. Who friggin' cares if they changed the hologoram? I mean, who are we to decide how the movie should be made? I say we should wait to see what Lucas says about the change and why. If it is made to connect the old and new trilogies then I don't see why this is bad...in fact i think it is a nice touch. It is a small detail that allows the 6 movies to be tied together with visual evidence not just story arc.

hiccupleftovers
09-09-2004, 06:47 PM
I predict that this will be like New Coke. Everyone will hate it and be outraged, then they'll release Star Wars Classic, and it'll be the highest selling DVD ever.

ROFL...Man that was hilarious, good stuff, good stuff. Not a bad theory when you think about it though. :rofl:

moiety
09-09-2004, 07:49 PM
Obviously lucus disacrees with you or there'd never be a special edition at all. When it all comes down to it the whole point is to create a better connection to the prequels.

Hey I understand that, and obviously Lucas has his own agenda. But I can still vent my frustration and share my opinion about it.