Man talks during movie, gets shot

[neocisco]

This story should be on every screen before the trailers. Maybe then people would finally shut their popcorn holes.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/27/movie.shooting/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[JolietJake]

I say he was doing a public service.

[Sofa King Kool]

That man deserves a medal.

[epobirs]

They were watching '...Benjamin Button.' Talk about adding injury to insult.

I've forcibly confiscated a few laser pointers in theaters but this is a bit over the top. The guy had his gun clipped inside of sweat pants. Does this sound like an excerpt from a Sopranos episode or what?

[Purple Flames]

This guy just lived out all of our fantasies.

[mykevermin]

fuck yeah.

[BigSpoonyBard]

America, fuck yeah.

Fix'd

[lilboo]

Holy shit, I used to go to that theater all the time. :shock:

Fuckin trash that lives in Philly. It's no surprise, actually.

[Liquid 2]

You guys cheering this on are bigger assholes than the guy who was talking. :|

[Mr Unoriginal]

You guys cheering this on are bigger assholes than the guy who was talking. :|

Assholes, unite!

[Strell]

~Let's all go to the loooooobby, and not get fuckin' shot~

[VipFREAK]

lool

[GaveUpTomorrow]

You guys cheering this on are bigger assholes than the guy who was talking. :|

Honestly. It doesn't make it ok to shoot someone just because they were talking. If the guy was that mad, he could have gotten the family kicked out of the theatre by grabbing someone who worked there. You morons will support anything in todays world. Maybe the next time someone doesn't like the clothes you are wearing they can go ahead and shoot you...but that's ok, because we've all been annoyed by other people before. Real morons of this story...half of CAG.

[prmononoke]

The guy definitely deserved it.

I hate people who talk during movies. Even if my friend leans over and says something to me, I hate that. I hate when people exclaim things during movies.

Seriously, just sit down, shut up, and watch the film.

[lilboo]

Wow some of you guys are really anal.. :-s

[prmononoke]

Wow some of you guys are really anal.. :-s

Interesting word choice, lilboo.

In all seriousness, while the guy (obviously) didn't necessarily deserve to be shot, there is no point in seeing a film if you're just going to talk during it.

If I paid for something, I want to be able to enjoy it. Someone talking over a film decreases that enjoyment.

[captainfrizo]

Normally unnecessary acts of violence and/or insanity would cause me to shake my head in further disbelief over how fucked up our society has become.

This, however, deserves a standing ovation. If I were the theater manager I'd give the man free tickets for life, just to make sure the audience always behaves themselves out of fear.

[Will]

I wont condone the guy getting shot but lets be honest, how hard is it to be courteous in a fucking movie theatre while the actual movie is going?

[Chacrana]

I bet he learned his lesson.

[DarkSageRK]

You guys cheering this on are bigger assholes than the guy who was talking. :|

You've never gone to a theater where people are talking, have you?

[squid]

Wow you guys take going to the theater really seriously.
It doesn't happen all the time, but yeah.. sometimes people are rude. It doesn't really ruin my day. :roll:

[Cracka]

i wish i could've shot the people in the theater i went to the other night, except instead of one guy talking it was everybody in the movie i was watching. We got the owner to come in to tell everybody to stop talking and they basically just told him to shut up. The girl sitting right behind me was talking on the phone. Not whispering to tell the person that called that she couldnt talk because she was in the movies, but talking loud as hell with her phone on speaker phone just carrying on a conversation.

As a side note when told to turn off their cell phones by the owner they said they didnt have to because obama is president now. Hmmm

[lilboo]

As a side note when told to turn off their cell phones by the owner they said they didnt have to because obama is president now. Hmmm

One of my friends was around something like that. They were in class..and the professor told this one student (who came in 30 mins late wearing headphones) to "please take off the headphones" and was told "i dont have to listen to you anymore, Obama is president"

:-?

[captainfrizo]

One of my friends was around something like that. They were in class..and the professor told this one student (who came in 30 mins late wearing headphones) to "please take off the headphones" and was told "i dont have to listen to you anymore, Obama is president"

:-?

You think it's bad now, just wait until he actually takes office.

[xdavis24]

just when I thought I found a community that didn't bring race into everything....

[Flyersfan]

I've been to this theater as well, though it's been a while.


No need to shoot somebody, just a nice old-school cross to the face would've been sufficient.

[VipFREAK]

@ lillboo lol, wow. I'd say you were making that up or exaggerating, but I actually kinda believe it.

Question... What do movies cost these days again? Where do these kids get the money to go. Sadly, I know the answer... mommy and daddy. That's why they don't give a shit about anything and why they shouldn't procreate but will...

Anyway, Why in gods name would anyone go to the movies again? Especially when there's a perfectly good flat screen and free copy of the movie to watch?

[Irukandji]

fuck yeah.

Word. This is incredible. Not as cool as the santa killer though.

[Koggit]

It's great that handguns are legal. Super great.

[BigSpoonyBard]

One of my friends was around something like that. They were in class..and the professor told this one student (who came in 30 mins late wearing headphones) to "please take off the headphones" and was told "i dont have to listen to you anymore, Obama is president"

:-?

A good professor would have used it as a segue into a lesson on logical fallacies, in particular the non sequitor :lol:

[Chase]

I really do not appreciate it when people talk during a movie---especially if they are talking about the movie after already seeing it once prior.

[SithFran]

:applause::applause::applause:

Even if the movie was Benjamin Button.

:applause::applause::applause:

[JolietJake]

Theaters should hang up signs warning people they'll be shot if they interrupt the movie. Lot fewer people talking during a movie.

[slickkill77]

Instead of saying please turn off your cell phones, they should say STFU or this guy will shoot your ass

[neocisco]

It's great that handguns are legal. Super great.

If the guy hadn't been talking this wouldn't have happened. THAT is the root of the situation, regardless if he was shot, stabbed, punched, kicked, etc.

BTW, I like your avatar.:)

[HeadRusch]

It's great that handguns are legal. Super great.

The only difference would have been "Father of family that talked during movie Stabbed in Thoat by angry patron".

Violence is gonna happen no matter what you're armed with. Take a look at countries that ban weapons, plenty of gun crime and 'crime in general' happening there too. The only difference is there that the bad guys KNOW you, Joe Q. Public, probably don't own a weapon :P

When Guns are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Guns. Sad, but True.

[Omatsei]

just when I thought I found a community that didn't bring race into everything....

Who said anything about race? All I read was how amazingly stupid people believe that Obama is the next Jesus Christ and will absolve them from any personal responsibility. Unless, of course, you're arguing that saying anything negative about Obama or his supporters is a racial prejudice...

[farfus]

That man deserves a medal.


Amen!

[Koggit]

The only difference would have been "Father of family that talked during movie Stabbed in Thoat by angry patron".

Violence is gonna happen no matter what you're armed with. Take a look at countries that ban weapons, plenty of gun crime and 'crime in general' happening there too. The only difference is there that the bad guys KNOW you, Joe Q. Public, probably don't own a weapon :P

When Guns are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Guns. Sad, but True.

Typical ignorance...

[HeadRusch]

Who said anything about race? All I read was how amazingly stupid people believe that Obama is the next Jesus Christ and will absolve them from any personal responsibility. Unless, of course, you're arguing that saying anything negative about Obama or his supporters is a racial prejudice...

Well Said.

There are going to be people....mostly ignorant people I might add....who will try to leverage Obama's presidency for their own personal gain, be they ignorant toothless rednecks wearing white pointed hoods or mis-informed street-prophets demanding slavery restitution in $10's and $20's.

[HeadRusch]

Typical ignorance...

Explain, exactly please, how what I said....is ignorant.

[crunchb3rry]

Lol, the guy was wearing sweatpants. Talk about 80s.

[Layziebones]

Did anyone even read the freaking article. A father got shot because his son was talking. Its not like he was being a douchebag and screaming in the theater. His son was probably talking and he told him to be quite and the other man says something bad to the kid. Any father wouldn't let some dude talk to their kid like that, he says something and gets shot.

[Megalith]

The Replacement Killers, right.

[Rocko]

:| @ people shitting on Benjamin Button.

[HumanSnatcher]

~Let's all go to the loooooobby, and not get fuckin' shot~
You read my mind, Strelly

[Liquid 2]

Hey guys, next time you do something rude, I'm gonna shoot you, alright?

Cut me off? You're dead.
Curse at a lady? You're dead.
Insult someone because they don't believe Obama is the second coming of Christ? You're dead.
Praise a murderer on an internet forum? You're dead.
Type like a dumbass who never got past kindergarten? You're dead.
Blast your shitty music? You're dead.
And of course, talk in a theater? You're dead.


I'm glad you guys are all okay with my new way of doing things! :]

[VipFREAK]

I suppose as long as it doesn't get to The Boondocks Saints level. : shudders:

[strongpimphand]

Here are some simple rules to going to a theater, for those who aren't in the know...

1) DO NOT TALK UNLESS YOU'RE SAYING "EXCUSE ME"
2) TURN OFF YOUR DAMN CELL PHONE! Text messaging still has a light, and even though you aren't talking, seeing a glaring bluish light can drive a man like me insane
3) DO NOT TAKE KIDS TO A 'R' MOVIE! You dumb fuck, leave them at home or with a friend.
4) YOU'RE NOT COOL BY SCREAMING OUT RANDOM SHIT.

If people followed these rules, nobody would get capped...

[lockarm]

Next thing you'll hear is a baby is crying during a movie, and a patron goes over to the baby, breaks the baby's neck dead, and goes back to his seat to finish the film.

Only a matter of time.

[MisterModest]

Next thing you'll hear is a baby is crying during a movie, and a patron goes over to the baby, breaks the baby's neck dead, and goes back to his seat to finish the film.

Only a matter of time.
Well, you shouldn't be bringing a baby to a fucking movie anyways.

[neverletthem]

Did anyone even read the freaking article. A father got shot because his son was talking. Its not like he was being a douchebag and screaming in the theater. His son was probably talking and he told him to be quite and the other man says something bad to the kid. Any father wouldn't let some dude talk to their kid like that, he says something and gets shot.


Uh, it doesn't say anywhere in the article that the kid was talking, it said the family was talking, never specifying the kid was talking.


Cialella told the family sitting in front of him in the theater on Christmas Day to be quiet, police said.
An argument ensued while others at the Riverview Movie Theatre watched "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button," starring Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported.




Anyways, I hate people who talk during movies, and I'm sure this guy just lived out almost anyone's fantasy.




Well, you shouldn't be bringing a baby to a fucking movie anyways.




You read my mind good sir.

[lilboo]

I'm still kind of amazed that most people seem to be applauding this guy. :-s

I mean, I too get pissed when there's a big mouth in the theater. But, to shoot someone or applaud someone over it? If I ever got that hype over a movie, I'd want someone to shoot me.

[neocisco]

It's probably safe to say that most people don't literally think it was OK. React, yes. To that degree, no.

[NeoWarrior]

It's truly sad to what we are turning: beasts. Even animals don't attempt to kill or kill another member of their species. We humans are the dumbest living creatures walking on Earth today.:dunce:

[bigdaddy]

The shooter should get a medal, this will teach those fucking noisy bitch families to shut their fucking annoying ass mouths!

*Picks up my pistols and shoots into the air!*

:)

It's truly sad to what we are turning: beasts. Even animals don't attempt to kill or kill another member of their species. We humans are the dumbest living creatures walking on Earth today.:dunce:


Wow... that comment proves you correct.

[HumanSnatcher]

It's truly sad to what we are turning: beasts. Even animals don't attempt to kill or kill another member of their species.
What planet are you from?

[antlp89]

As long as he didn't die, I find this story gratifying. Especially if this asshole was the type who talked even after he was politely asked to be quiet. And honestly, babies should be banned from movie theaters, etc. Why the fuck would you bring a baby to a movie? Either get a baby-sitter or tough luck ->no movie bitch. And to the guy saying that this is a "slippery-slope situation". No. This is one of those times when a person is fucking with you, thus self defensive measures must be taken ;). Either go outside and talk, stop talking in general, or get shot in the leg/arm/etc =).

[kaw]

Move over Obama, 2008 just got a new Man of the Year.

[Layziebones]

Uh, it doesn't say anywhere in the article that the kid was talking, it said the family was talking, never specifying the kid was talking.
.

Exactly. For all we know, the kid was talking, the dad told him to be quiet and then this idiot told the kid to sgut up. Dad gets pissed because this guy yells at his kid, boom dad gets shot.

[Koggit]

This thread is sickening, I hate CAG right now

[HumanSnatcher]

This thread is sickening, I hate CAG right now
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa204/dinodna7/prude_1.jpg

[Irukandji]

It's truly sad to what we are turning: beasts. Even animals don't attempt to kill or kill another member of their species. We humans are the dumbest living creatures walking on Earth today.:dunce:

If dolphins were smart enough to make bombs they use those bombs to kill sharks. Bitch.

[prmononoke]

Typical ignorance...

:rofl:

I love how, when someone disagrees with someone like yourself (someone who doesn't value their liberties), you just claim that that person is ignorant.

[R1V3R5]

From the article:

"Cialella was carrying a Kel-Tec .380-caliber handgun..."

I am entirely shocked it even fired. Kel-Tec makes utter crap. Maybe this guy should get an award for actually getting a Kel-Tec handgun to fire at someone without jamming!

[Pookymeister]

If the guy hadn't been talking this wouldn't have happened. THAT is the root of the situation

fallacious thinking +1

[tehweezner]

The first thing I thought when seeing thread title was "deserved it" :-|

[AshesofWake]

props

[Koggit]

:rofl:

I love how, when someone disagrees with someone like yourself (someone who doesn't value their liberties), you just claim that that person is ignorant.

Anarchist...

We're in a thread about a man being shot with a gun because he/his son made noise during a movie. Somebody, after losing their temper, used a lethal weapon in a room full of innocent people. We're fortunate nobody was killed -- especially the present children.

[ratzombie]

But Koggit, he was talking during a movie! People that talk during a movie are so annoying and deserve what is coming to them. If you're some person just sitting there minding your own business and you catch a stray bullet to the head well TOUGH SHIT DAWG!

[floormat]

just when I thought I found a community that didn't bring race into everything....

I took it that as a democrat/liberal thing not a race thing but who knows if thats what they meant

[floormat]

I'm still kind of amazed that most people seem to be applauding this guy. :-s

I mean, I too get pissed when there's a big mouth in the theater. But, to shoot someone or applaud someone over it? If I ever got that hype over a movie, I'd want someone to shoot me.


i mean like really for sure get with the future text messaging is all the rage.....

[neocisco]

fallacious thinking +1

How so? Are you implying that if he wasn't talking he still would have been shot? Like I've said before, to say the shooter overreacted in his response is an extreme understatement. Nonetheless, he would have had nothing to respond to if the man had kept quiet.

[pacifickarma]

While I am personally opposed to shooting someone for talking during a movie, I still think that this story should be told before each and every movie shown in a theater. It should be up on the screen along with the movie trivia and the "Silence your Cell Phone" message. If enough people saw this story, it might convince a few to shut the hell up during the movie.

[prmononoke]

Anarchist...

We're in a thread about a man being shot with a gun because he/his son made noise during a movie. Somebody, after losing their temper, used a lethal weapon in a room full of innocent people. We're fortunate nobody was killed -- especially the present children.

And name calling! :applause:

I'm actually a libertarian.

And I support everyone's liberty to own any weapon, regardless of how unnecessary or deadly it is.

[RedvsBlue]

SOOOOOOOOO much hypocrisy in this thread. All you assholes saying the talker deserved it can HONESTLY say you never talked during any movie, ever?

[Friend of Sonic]

Oh, yeah, RedvsBlue, sometimes you just have to talk in a movie. When Clint Eastwood said, "Get off my lawn..." and "I'll put a hole in your face and sleep like a baby" in Gran Torino, I had to lean over to my girlfriend and tell her that the scene was bad ass.

I wouldn't expect to be shot over it though.

[prmononoke]

Oh, yeah, RedvsBlue, sometimes you just have to talk in a movie. When Clint Eastwood said, "Get off my lawn..." and "I'll put a hole in your face and sleep like a baby" in Gran Torino, I had to lean over to my girlfriend and tell her that the scene was bad ass.

I wouldn't expect to be shot over it though.

Could anyone else hear you? Probably not.

Completely different situation.

[supraazn]

The shooter is being charged with Attempted murder because he indeed was trying to kill him.
No "ohh it only hit him in the arm."
You know how close your arms are to your chest and/or head?
That sweatpants wearing fool is no marksman, he was aiming to kill, an unarmed man, in front of his family, with no regards at all.

Recently I've stumbled onto a thread here that told the story of a CAG member, can't really recall his name, a personal friend of a MOD, that was stabbed and killed in a senseless argument.
Needless to say thread was filled with R.I.P.s and condolences.

Now a story of a nameless stranger that was doing nothing more than an act that annoys and irritates some people, was almost killed in front of his family.
And what do we get?
"LOL! That Motherfucker deserved it"
"Give that shooter a medal"

Now i know that most of you guys didn't mean what you said and it was only a poor attempt at humor.
But for the few that meant it and reply again and again with some form of an excuse for this guy's action.

I really don't have anything to say to those people.

Truth is everybody does annoying shit that is not limited to talking in the theatre.
So next time you cut off someone in traffic, bump into someone, farts in an elevator, etc.
Please dont mind if i laugh at you if you get physically injured or nearly killed by someone.

[Friend of Sonic]

Could anyone else hear you? Probably not.

Completely different situation.
Well, I think people heard me when I said, "OH MY GOD HONEY THAT WAS BAD AZZ"

[Wolve11]

this thread reeks of typical CAG user gimmicks.

[Loonknight]

I'd probably be more pissed off by the guy that fired the gun, that would really mess up my movie watching enjoyment.

[GuilewasNK]

I don't like people talking in the theatre either, but some of you people in this thread surprise me.

It's one thing to tell someone to STFU, but I've had a friend shot to death over bullshit so I don't see the humor or justification in this whatsoever. Even if you are joking its a fucking piss poor joke. That fool should have carried his dumbass to the manager instead of bringing a damn gun into the theatre.

[epobirs]

Well, I think people heard me when I said, "OH MY GOD HONEY THAT WAS BAD AZZ"

Have you made a will and put your affairs in order? Your days may be numbered. One of these days when you're feeling yappy, someone nearby may be feeling stabby.

[epobirs]

I don't like people talking in the theatre either, but some of you people in this thread surprise me.

It's one thing to tell someone to STFU, but I've had a friend shot to death over bullshit so I don't see the humor or justification in this whatsoever. Even if you are joking its a fucking piss poor joke. That fool should have carried his dumbass to the manager instead of bringing a damn gun into the theatre.

I doubt anyone here is genuinely in favor of this behavior but there is a certain pleasure to be had when a barbarian does something extreme that the civilized have contemplated if all restraint were removed. As Robert E. Howard, creator of Conan the Barbarian, said: "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."

Sam Kinison also comes to mind. In his act he had a routine about violence against women. The rant essentially went, "I don't condone it but I understand it. I don't think you should do it but I know what turns Mr. Hand into Mr. Fist."

This got a big laugh even though most of the listeners had probably never struck a woman and never would.

[Koggit]

And name calling! :applause:

I'm actually a libertarian.

And I support everyone's liberty to own any weapon, regardless of how unnecessary or deadly it is.

Name calling? Do you actually deny being an anarchist? Anarchy is a fundamental tenet of libertarianism. This "liberty" you speak of infringes on what our culture has decided is a fundamental right: the right to feel safe from bodily harm. This is why assault (not just battery) is a crime. Do you also oppose laws against assault? Since you consider it within your rights to carry a concealed lethal weapon in movie theatres then you must have no problem with making others feel threatened. That should be just peachy, eh.. maybe someone should follow you around with a loaded gun aimed at your head for a day.

There's absolutely no reason for handguns to be legal. Rifles or whatever, fine, but not handguns. If handguns were illegal it's possible this guy would've been carrying brass knuckes or a knife or something, but at least then the other innocent folks in the theatre would've been safe when he lost his temper.

Libertarians, strict constitutionalists, are anarchists... the world changes over the course of 200 years, that's why our founding fathers made the constitution so malleable, it's a living document, it's intended to adapt to societal norms. In the case of guns, the "liberty" they intended was a well-armed militia to prevent extreme government oppression. They didn't intend on douchebags with concealed lethal weapons losing their tempers in public places. This sort of shit is disgustingly common in bars. Hell, it even happened in a Toys R Us back on Black Friday, it happened in a children's toy store, it's terrifying that some nuts want to defend handguns as a right.

[HumanSnatcher]

Koggit, heres a grand idea for ya. Before there were handguns, there knives and swords. Same shit happened back then if you bumped into someone and they got pissed off. Why don't we just ban anything and everything that can kill someone. Oh wait, anything can be used as an object of destruction.

Sorry dumbass, but I would rather have the right to fucking defend myself than be in total fear and pissed that I could not have a weapon should someone try to harm me or a loved one. Stop living in a fantasy world.

[Pookymeister]

Koggit, heres a grand idea for ya. Before there were handguns, there knives and swords. Same shit happened back then if you bumped into someone and they got pissed off. Why don't we just ban anything and everything that can kill someone. Oh wait, anything can be used as an object of destruction.

Sorry dumbass, but I would rather have the right to fucking defend myself than be in total fear and pissed that I could not have a weapon should someone try to harm me or a loved one. Stop living in a fantasy world.

Obviously almost anything could be used to harm someone.
However, I would rather take my chances against someone with a sword than an automatic machine gun.

A total ban on handguns would be nice - but only if there was a magic button that could be pressed where they all disappeared.

[Koggit]

Koggit, heres a grand idea for ya. Before there were handguns, there knives and swords. Same shit happened back then if you bumped into someone and they got pissed off. Why don't we just ban anything and everything that can kill someone. Oh wait, anything can be used as an object of destruction.

Sorry dumbass, but I would rather have the right to fucking defend myself than be in total fear and pissed that I could not have a weapon should someone try to harm me or a loved one. Stop living in a fantasy world.

Why not use a taser to defend yourself? Or, if knives are just as dangerous, why not carry a knife with you instead?

I really think tasers are the perfect self-defense item for those who want to carry a handgun, though.

Guns are too easy. It's really, really easy to pull a trigger in anger (or even on accident), ending a life, perhaps not even the intended life. The same cannot be said for knives.

[HeadRusch]

There's absolutely no reason for handguns to be legal. Rifles or whatever, fine, but not handguns. If handguns were illegal it's possible this guy would've been carrying brass knuckes or a knife or something, but at least then the other innocent folks in the theatre would've been safe when he lost his temper.


Handguns exist for personal protection where a long rifle or shotgun would be impractical. They can also be used for nefarious reasons, like murder. Guess what...my car is a transportation device, and it can also be used for nefarious purposes too.

If you waved your magic wand and made handguns illegal tomorrow, here's what would happen:

Every handgun that was legally registered would be gathered up and destroyed. Since no criminal registers his (most likely illegally obtained) weapon, the population of people owning handguns would largely be made up of thugs. Thugs would now be pretty sure that every well-dressed businessman they intend to mug or rob would likely NOT be carrying an illegal pistol......and so crime would increase. there would be a run on shotguns for home protection.

Now, you'll of course say "but where to criminals GET their weapons? Huh? HUH?"...right...usually stolen from legal places/homes/etc. So that means thugs wouldn't get guns anymore......since they wouldn't be able to steal them IF we ban them!!!

Wrong.

The same underground shipping industry that keeps the world flowing in Extacy, Pot, Cocaine, Crack and Herion would add "pistols" to their list and guess what....Thugs would have access to handguns again, while Joe Q. Public would not.

Simply put, unless you ban the production of handguns all over the earth,a nd hire a billion new police officers to enforce it (everyone gets manditory pat-downs every day and if you have a handgun you immediately get sent to prison for 10 years)......then no ban of handguns will work, because the overwhelming odds are that criminals carrying them would never get caught, and honest civillians carrying them illegally would be too afraid to use them in self defence for fear of incarceration.

Bans don't work.


prevent extreme government oppression. They didn't intend on douchebags with concealed lethal weapons losing their tempers in public places. This sort of shit is disgustingly common in bars. Hell, it even happened in a Toys R Us back on Black Friday, it happened in a children's toy store, it's terrifying that some nuts want to defend handguns as a right.

omfg.....

40,000,000 gun owners in the USA and 3 of them went batshit crazy, so lets ban em all!
There's 500,000,000,000 porno movies out there...but ONE dude watched one and then snatched a kid, lets ban them too! OH OH...fatties are killing our health care providers, lets ban Potato Chips! OH OH! Did you see that guy get drunk and run over an entire pre-school? LETS BAN BOOZE, ITS EVIL! Because you know, if YOU dont like it, it should be banned.

Personally if I had the magic wand I'd ban religions, but thats just me.

You know if we used the lowest common denominator to guide this countries' direction we'd still be living in fucking caves....

And PS: I dont know what redneck wonderland you live in, but I haven't heard of anyone getting shot in a bar in like 20 years where I am (North East)... :P (WHICH I may add....is an illegal place to carry a firearm, even if it IS registered and you have a valid concealed-carry permit...in several NE states you can't have a weapon near a school, in a bar or restaurant that serves alcohol...its pretty stupid actually but whatever...its the law).

[Koggit]

My time's too valuable to waste on you and your anecdotal bullshit. If you want to discuss issues let me know.

Your last paragraph actually hurts your "point", though. And ftr the "redneck wonderland" I'm in, where I often read about bar shootings, is Seattle. Our nightlife is far from wild.

[HeadRusch]

If you can't debate the points, at least bow out like a man.

[ratzombie]

The shooter is being charged with Attempted murder because he indeed was trying to kill him.
No "ohh it only hit him in the arm."
You know how close your arms are to your chest and/or head?
That sweatpants wearing fool is no marksman, he was aiming to kill, an unarmed man, in front of his family, with no regards at all.

Recently I've stumbled onto a thread here that told the story of a CAG member, can't really recall his name, a personal friend of a MOD, that was stabbed and killed in a senseless argument.
Needless to say thread was filled with R.I.P.s and condolences.

Now a story of a nameless stranger that was doing nothing more than an act that annoys and irritates some people, was almost killed in front of his family.
And what do we get?
"LOL! That Motherfucker deserved it"
"Give that shooter a medal"

Now i know that most of you guys didn't mean what you said and it was only a poor attempt at humor.
But for the few that meant it and reply again and again with some form of an excuse for this guy's action.

I really don't have anything to say to those people.

Truth is everybody does annoying shit that is not limited to talking in the theatre.
So next time you cut off someone in traffic, bump into someone, farts in an elevator, etc.
Please dont mind if i laugh at you if you get physically injured or nearly killed by someone.
Well said. :applause:

[HeadRusch]

Maybe now is a good time to switch the topic to the guy dressed as santa claus who killed 9 family members, burned down a house and then capped himself when he realized he'd never make it to Canada.

I vote for Banning Santa, since anyone who wears that costume is either a child molester, a drunk or a murderer in disguise.

[prmononoke]

Name calling? Do you actually deny being an anarchist? Anarchy is a fundamental tenet of libertarianism. This "liberty" you speak of infringes on what our culture has decided is a fundamental right: the right to feel safe from bodily harm. This is why assault (not just battery) is a crime. Do you also oppose laws against assault? Since you consider it within your rights to carry a concealed lethal weapon in movie theatres then you must have no problem with making others feel threatened. That should be just peachy, eh.. maybe someone should follow you around with a loaded gun aimed at your head for a day.

There's absolutely no reason for handguns to be legal. Rifles or whatever, fine, but not handguns. If handguns were illegal it's possible this guy would've been carrying brass knuckes or a knife or something, but at least then the other innocent folks in the theatre would've been safe when he lost his temper.

Libertarians, strict constitutionalists, are anarchists... the world changes over the course of 200 years, that's why our founding fathers made the constitution so malleable, it's a living document, it's intended to adapt to societal norms. In the case of guns, the "liberty" they intended was a well-armed militia to prevent extreme government oppression. They didn't intend on douchebags with concealed lethal weapons losing their tempers in public places. This sort of shit is disgustingly common in bars. Hell, it even happened in a Toys R Us back on Black Friday, it happened in a children's toy store, it's terrifying that some nuts want to defend handguns as a right.

The values of "our culture" do not reflect mine. I don't believe in the right to "feel safe from bodily harm." In fact, I believe that this "right" infringes on our liberties.

I don't believe it's anyone's right to carry a concealed weapon anywhere. It's their liberty to, as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's liberties (in this case, the liberty of the business owner to decide whether or not he bans weapons in his establishment). Suggesting that you have the right to carry a concealed weapon would mean that the government would have to supply the weapons to everyone who wants one. Rather, having the liberty to do so means that, if you have the means to afford a weapon, you can bring it to any public place, or any private establishment that has not banned weapons.

And no, the values of anarchy clash with those of libertarianism. Traditional anarchists are against any established institution, and they do not support the ideals of capitalism. Libertarianism respects private insitutions. Huge, huge difference.

[Koggit]

So you do oppose assault laws then, okay.

[HowStern]

I live in the northeast and there is usually a shooting everyday. At least. Usually kids under 20, too.
The newspapers front page is always about gun crimes.
I'm sick of NRA members screaming about the 2nd amendment. That shit was written over 200 years ago now. It needs to be updated to better fit here and now.
I believe people should be able to own guns, though. Simply because it would be too frightening if the only people allowed guns were law enforcement. But for every instance of self protection there are a lot more instances of crime.

[ITDEFX]

This is why I HATE going to the movies after 6pm. Pack theaters, people munching Popcorn with their mouth open, dropping shit, opening and closing their light bright cell phones to *check* who text messaged them and in some cases to start a text message conversation during the movie (this during TDK :bomb: right next to me) and so on.

Some of these people just need to be *taken away* by the staff and *silenced* the proper way (use your imagination folks) when they start talking.

Good for you man with gun!! :applause:

[prmononoke]

So you do oppose assault laws then, okay.

Where did I say this?

[Hex]

You guys cheering this on are bigger assholes than the guy who was talking. :|

This, a million times. I don't even need to read the rest of the "GO DUDE" posts.

The guy fucking SHOT another human being for talking in a theatre. Jesus titty-fucking christ, I thought some of you had some semblance of a soul. Also the guy doesn't get any brownie points for hitting the guy in the arm. If he'd hit the brachial or radial arteries, he could've easily killed him.

[ITDEFX]

"GO DUDE" posts.



YAY !!!! :whee::whee::whee:

[Sarang01]

I think epobirs summed up most peoples feelings in the thread.

This reminds me though if cellphone rules are lifted on airplanes except that would be worse. If I had to listen to someone chatter on the phone on an International flight especially I think I'd want to break their neck. I mean like a whole group of people since you can't get out. -_-

[Hex]

I think epobirs summed up most peoples feelings in the thread.

This reminds me though if cellphone rules are lifted on airplanes except that would be worse. If I had to listen to someone chatter on the phone on an International flight especially I think I'd want to break their neck. I mean like a whole group of people since you can't get out. -_-

People speak so easily about killing another person over something as insignificant as a temporary annoyance. :roll:

[HumanSnatcher]

I think epobirs summed up most peoples feelings in the thread.

This reminds me though if cellphone rules are lifted on airplanes except that would be worse. If I had to listen to someone chatter on the phone on an International flight especially I think I'd want to break their neck. I mean like a whole group of people since you can't get out. -_-
I'm sure the battery would die out as it would strain to keep that signal. Lords knows mine drains if I don't put it in "airplane" or whatever mode

[Quillion]

I've been to this theater as well, though it's been a while.


No need to shoot somebody, just a nice old-school cross to the face would've been sufficient.
Agreed. If you're not man enough to give and take a punch, sit the fuck down. The last thing we need is to bring deadly weapons into all our disputes.

[camoor]

He should have challenged the guy to a duel. That is the way a gentlemen settles his conflicts.

[ITDEFX]

He should have challenged the guy to a duel. That is the way a gentlemen settles his conflicts.


Pistols or Lightsabers?
:P

[DestroVega]

I remember when I saw Spider-man 3 this guy was talking in Spanish to his girl through all the previews... I thought, ok, previews who cares... then through the opening credits with only music... again, I'm like, not too big a deal, no way they continue into the movie... movie starts, the conversation is still in full swing... my girlfriend, being next to him and from NYC where she dealt with this same bullshit all the time, turns and says, "Can you stop talking?" he turns to her, straight face and is like, "What did you say?" like she was in the wrong and how dare she ask him that... she says "I'm trying to hear the movie..." he didn't talk after that... but it's crazy, people just straight up don't give a fuck... why even go if you wanna talk the whole time?

also, a reason I love how great home theater setups look and sound now, I'd rather just watch movies at home unless they are big event movies. (Dark Knight) etc.

shoot them all for all I care.

[lilboo]

That's .. kind of the problem.. it's like certain people seem to do whatever they want, but if you say anything..they get real defensive...

The shooter in this case was a fat italian slob from South Philly...and..was the person who got shot, black? :-s

I know they mentioned "family"..so if it's a .. certain type of family in Philly, I can only imagine how this went down. :roll:

[ITDEFX]

I remember when I saw Spider-man 3 this guy was talking in Spanish to his girl through all the previews... I thought, ok, previews who cares... then through the opening credits with only music... again, I'm like, not too big a deal, no way they continue into the movie... movie starts, the conversation is still in full swing... my girlfriend, being next to him and from NYC where she dealt with this same bullshit all the time, turns and says, "Can you stop talking?" he turns to her, straight face and is like, "What did you say?" like she was in the wrong and how dare she ask him that... she says "I'm trying to hear the movie..." he didn't talk after that... but it's crazy, people just straight up don't give a fuck... why even go if you wanna talk the whole time?

also, a reason I love how great home theater setups look and sound now, I'd rather just watch movies at home unless they are big event movies. (Dark Knight) etc.

shoot them all for all I care.

A good friend of mine feels the same way. However he is getting tired of paying high ticket prices and even more outstanding prices for popcorn and soda. Honestly, there should be more "Bring your own shit to eat" instead of more talking in the theater cause that movie theater food is expensive. When I saw Spiderman 3 at midnight last year, that was a HUGE mistake. Why? Because my theater was full of fucktards and drunk bastards who wouldn't shut up. Heck one bitch told other guy across the way to shut up, he responded by saying you shut the fuck up or I beat the fuck outta ya. Worse movie experiance ever :(



That's .. kind of the problem.. it's like certain people seem to do whatever they want, but if you say anything..they get real defensive...

The shooter in this case was a fat italian slob from South Philly...and..was the person who got shot, black? :-s

I know they mentioned "family"..so if it's a .. certain type of family in Philly, I can only imagine how this went down. :roll:

:rofl: Oh this story needs a follow up.

[dmaul1114]

People talking and making noise in theater sucks, but obviously isn't worth shooting someone over. I usually just ignore it, shush them etc. And if it's too much I just leave and go to customer service and complain and get a pass.

All the people cheering the shooting on is kind of sick. But not surprising on CAG with a bunch of high school and college aged nerds always trying to act tough behind their monitors.

[supraazn]

All the people cheering the shooting on is kind of sick. But not surprising on CAG with a bunch of high school and college aged nerds always trying to act tough behind their monitors.

I'm a college student within that age range and well i'm kind of a nerd, to be more accurate, a computer geek.
But I don't think i quite fit that generalization.

Nerds are generally quiet and laid back, with the few exceptions that snap and go ape shit shooting rampage.
Making the rest of us look bad.

[HeadRusch]

People here are applauding the irony of it all, we've all wanted to strangle rude people at the movies at one time or another...the adults who wont shut up, the kids who wont shut up, the adults who bring babies because they're too lazy or too stupid to bring a babysitter....

I dont think anyone here is actually suggesting that shooting people is a good way to solve lifes little problems, but you holier-than-thou Internet Messiah's sure like to play it up like that so you can take the moral high ground and pontificate. :P

[dmaul1114]

I'm a college student within that age range and well i'm kind of a nerd, to be more accurate, a computer geek.
But I don't think i quite fit that generalization.

Nerds are generally quiet and laid back, with the few exceptions that snap and go ape shit shooting rampage.
Making the rest of us look bad.

Nah, I just mean their are tons of people here who love to run their mouths and say shit they never would in real life. And "applauding" the shooting in this case is an example--and I mean those not doing it in a joking manner.

I didn't say everyone in that age range etc. fits that bill, just that you have more of those "get on the internet and act like an asshole" types in that demographic relative to others. But they're across all demographics--the internet just brings out the asshole in everyone as it's easy to be an asshole when you don't have to worry about getting punched in the face.

Meh, I've just become hugely disenchanted with forums and need to continue weening myself off of them I guess....

[thrustbucket]

So out of curiosity, how many of these types of theater incidents do you think would have to happen, and make national news, to make it so you would never, ever, ever hear anyone talk in a theater?


Not saying it should happen. Just food for thought.



Recently I've stumbled onto a thread here that told the story of a CAG member, can't really recall his name, a personal friend of a MOD, that was stabbed and killed in a senseless argument.
Needless to say thread was filled with R.I.P.s and condolences.


That is a sad story....First I've heard of it.
How anyone can argue against the total banning of all knives is beyond me.

[Sarang01]

People speak so easily about killing another person over something as insignificant as a temporary annoyance. :roll:

Have you actually been on an International flight and KNOW how long they can be?! Seriously. If I was SURROUNDED by people talking on cell phones for that long I would be pissed. You think you wouldn't?

[prmononoke]

How anyone can argue against the total banning of all knives is beyond me.

:-s

[dmaul1114]

Have you actually been on an International flight and KNOW how long they can be?! Seriously. If I was SURROUNDED by people talking on cell phones for that long I would be pissed. You think you wouldn't?

Just part of flying. People talking on phones isn't any more annoying than people talking to each other, crying babies, whining kids etc. etc. Just get some noise cancelling headphones and crank the volume.

[camoor]

Just part of flying. People talking on phones isn't any more annoying than people talking to each other, crying babies, whining kids etc. etc. Just get some noise cancelling headphones and crank the volume.

True on the flights deal. Sometimes you just have to man up and tolerate a little noise, if you're that oversensitive then just stay home.

As for talking in theaters, it's very rude. Noone should be shot for it, but let's not kid ourselves that people haven't been shot for similar social infractions throughout the history of our country, hell some of our presidents have shot someone for less.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

I remember on the flight back from Maui in 2000, they were showing an episode of "Welcome Back, Kotter".

Since we didn't want to buy headphones, I provided the dialogue for my future wife.

A few people were annoyed until a very excited older man burst into the scene and I perfectly lipsynched, "I'm from the future and I'm here to stop John Travolta from making Battlefield Earth."

I suppose somebody would have said something, but ...

1. The "audience" had been warmed up by McKenna, the lovable 4 year old who screamed for two hours straight and kicked my future wife's seat two or three hundred times.

2. Who would admit to watching "Welcome Back, Kotter" intently?

[Friend of Sonic]

How anyone can argue against the total banning of all knives is beyond me.
Even my cheese knife which makes perfect slices for my crackers?

[fatherofcaitlyn]

Even my cheese knife which makes perfect slices for my crackers?

Cheese knives alone caused two million accidental deaths in 2007.

[Quillion]

Cheese knives alone caused two million accidental deaths in 2007.
And that was in Mexico alone! Where they typically grate, not slice!

Just imagine the devastation if we fail to ignore this growing threat.

[ratzombie]

I like cheese.

[Strell]

Even my cheese knife which makes perfect slices for my crackers?

Especially the cheese knives.

Because then no one could cut the cheese!

Wakka wakka!

[Friend of Sonic]

We need Susan Sarandon to tell the world of the dangers of cheese knives.
Wakka wakka.

[Hex]

Have you actually been on an International flight and KNOW how long they can be?! Seriously. If I was SURROUNDED by people talking on cell phones for that long I would be pissed. You think you wouldn't?

Who says I wouldn't be pissed? I'm just not some asshole with a short temper who takes insignificance as far as violence.

[dbrev42]

Man if someone were to shoot another dude in a theater with me in it, I'd start a fucking riot with my buddies and teach that ass clown what pain feels like.

[thrustbucket]

Man if someone were to shoot another dude in a theater with me in it, I'd start a fucking riot with my buddies and teach that ass clown what pain feels like.

That's cool.

Now if only you'd do that to the guy talking in the theater, no shooting would have to take place.

[Quillion]

That's cool.

Now if only you'd do that to the guy talking in the theater, no shooting would have to take place.
No shooting has to take place in the first place. Are the nine dollars and two hours important enough to take a life?

[jaykrue]

No shooting has to take place in the first place. Are the nine dollars and two hours important enough to take a life?

Clearly not. But it's enough to seriously wound someone on the arm.

[thrustbucket]

No shooting has to take place in the first place. Are the nine dollars and two hours important enough to take a life?

Of course not. But it might be important enough to take a knee cap.

Clearly not. But it's enough to seriously wound someone on the arm.

Exactly. :)

[Hex]

I love how it's okay to shoot someone in an extremity, but not in the chest/head. Because nicking the femoral/radial/brachial arteries just a walk in the fucking park, right? :roll:

[supraazn]

I love how it's okay to shoot someone in an extremity, but not in the chest/head. Because nicking the femoral/radial/brachial arteries just a walk in the fucking park, right? :roll:

Yea they just don't seem to process the fact that it was attempted murder!
Not assault or battery, but MURDER!

I'd love to see anyone shoot somebody else ANYWHERE on the human body and try to say it wasn't attempted murder.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

^Hex

I'm reminded of the shootout in Club Penumbra in Shadowrun.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

Yea they just don't seem to process the fact that it was attempted murder!
Not assault or battery, but MURDER!

I'd love to see anyone shoot somebody else ANYWHERE on the human body and try to say it wasn't attempted murder.

With a low caliber gun, the foot through knee and hand through elbow area could be considered just 2nd degree assault instead of attempted murder.

[Hex]

With a low caliber gun, the foot through knee and hand through elbow area could be considered just 2nd degree assault instead of attempted murder.

That jury would be fucking stupid. He. shot. an. unarmed. nonviolent. individual.

Throw the fucking book at his BALLS. Maybe he won't be able to procreate and have stupid children.

[JolietJake]

It would be hard to murder someone by shooting them in the foot.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

That jury would be fucking stupid. He. shot. an. unarmed. nonviolent. individual.

Throw the fucking book at his BALLS. Maybe he won't be able to procreate and have stupid children.

2nd degree assault would be, I think, 5-10 years in prison if he had used a weapon other than a gun. In some states, using a gun doubles the penalty. That would be 10-20 years in prison, court costs and future civil court judgments. I wouldn't call that a slap on the wrist.

[supraazn]

With a low caliber gun, the foot through knee and hand through elbow area could be considered just 2nd degree assault instead of attempted murder.

Well that would be possible but he better have a hell of a damn good lawyer that can twist the shit out of the the facts.
Regardless of the weapon, he has to prove that his original intend was not to kill the man but only to hurt/wound him.
Even with a low caliber gun he has to prove to the judge beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't aiming to kill.

It would be hard to murder someone by shooting them in the foot.

A low caliber can easily kill if shot in the head or chest so just because it happen to strike a hand or foot by shear luck does not make it any less malicious.
The Attempted Murder law is the intention of killing not just the circumstances.
If you shoot to kill but had shitty ass aim, should you get less time then a person that had good aim but with the same intentions?
Seeing that it was in a theater, which is presuming dark during a movie, and the man was probably moving around a little, its hard to believe that it couldn't have hit elsewhere.

The rule of the gun, "Never aim a gun at someone you do not have intent to kill"

[depascal22]

Even with a low caliber gun he has to prove to the judge beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't aiming to kill.

Last time I checked, it's the other way around. The prosecution has to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he intended to kill the man. I know it's just semantics but you're throwing alot of BS out there. Oh, and you don't prove anything to a judge. It's the jury that you have to worry about.

[dmaul1114]

Oh, and you don't prove anything to a judge. It's the jury that you have to worry about.

Unless the defendant opts for a bench trial. You have the option.

[depascal22]

Unless the defendant opts for a bench trial. You have the option.

Even then, the prosecution still has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Unless you're black, then it does get reversed depending on the location of the trial.

[dmaul1114]

Yeah, but you have to prove it to the judge.

It is a tough case to make either way. Easy to prove who did the shooting I assume--lots of witnesses.

But how so you prove that he was trying to shoot in the arm, leg or wherever, vs. trying to kill and simply missed.

I put that burden on the defense personally, as I have no sympathy for someone that shoots another human being. That's intent to kill IMO, unless you have strong evidence that the person deliberately shot just to wound. Assault with deadtly weapon and attempted murder should almost always go hand in hand IMO. You don't attack someone with a dangerous weapon if you aren't trying to kill them (or at the least don't care if you kill them).

[camoor]

Didn't this happen in one of the 'Scary Movie' movies?

One time we went to a theater in the less economically developed area of the city and this lady was called in the theater, so of course she answers and starts talking. Soon enough there's a 'shhh' followed by several 'shhhs' and then we hear her say to the person she's talking to "oh that's nothing - they just trying to get me to hang up because we at the movie theater" :shock: Finally after about 20 more seconds her friend grabs her arm and gently pushes her up, pointing to the exit.

[ITDEFX]

The only time I shed a tear about a Dog dying in a movie was during the scene in I am Legend were Nevil has to kill his dog off screen because she was infected by the virus after the dog fight. I was like holy shit, to put down his only friend that has kept him sane all these years living in NYC was just a lot.

[rmb]

What shocks me most is all the Cag's that are bitching about people talking in a theater. I don't have this problem because I only go to the movies in the afternoon when the price is CHEAPER!

As far as this guy shooting the other, he should have just punched the clown.