Goozex: PROs and CONs?

[CaoPi]

Been using this site for awhile now since last year, I think some of the games take way too long to receive after requesting. I requested Dead Space when it was released and I'm still on position 25. Even at some games requesting on the 1st day of the release, you may be bumped to the bottom of the list.

I do how like they changed the points given to you right away instead of having the person confirmed that they received it and you finally get your points.

[LilPaintballer]

Im digging it. I get rid of mostly garbage games for decent value, Honestly it depends on what game you request for arrival time. I dont really go for new releases,i like to fill in my ps2 xbx and gc collection, although i have banjo koozie on my list and i am number 5 in line. I always check the trading info to see how many games are being offered at the time to see if i have to wait or not.

[QiG]

I swear it was no where near as populated when I joined in early 08. I'm with you as far as new releases never being available. A lot of the fall releases still 300-400 requests in the queue and only a dozen or so trades completed so far... the demand has skyrocketed where the supply hasn't. I really wish they would break the 1000 point threshold again as I think we're ready for it now, but that's a whole 'nother story. I'll still use it because I have a backlog full of games that keep me entertained while I can wait, but I almost get credit on my Sonycard to buy retail games quicker than I can get a game to ship on Goozex.

[horrido]

...because he sells points, and only adds crap games. Is a ponsi scheme.

[FlipSide]

PROS:

You get the highest trade value for your games. I tend to only trade my 400+ point games, I think anything below is a waste.

CONS:

Like many preach on the site, you can't use Goozex if your not patient. It is also no place for collectors as the condition is only guaranteed to be playable, if you like mint manuals, cases and discs dont get your hopes up but so far I have received games in great condition, 2 even sealed. So its luck of the draw in terms of receiving games.


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I have gotten Saints Row 2(PS3), Far Cry 2(PS3), Dead Space(PS3), Call of Duty: World at War(Xbox360), and Eternal Sonata (PS3) all within 2 months of their release. Of course I was overall single digits on most of them, the highest I was was with Eternal Sonata at 27 overall. So if you can get high position (overall 1-20) on Tuesdays you can pretty much get any new release within a month.

[VioletArrows]

Cons: It's not real money you can use anywhere else (nor can it be converted), and the arbitrary way the points fluctuate for some of the games. AKA: Nobody knows what Kingdom Hearts is worth so today it's 150 and tomorrow it's 300.

Pros: Bye bye stupid Spongebob game I got for free! Wow, this Singstar game is worth 3 games I actually want and they're all instantly available! Hooray!

[coolsteel]

Pros: Good way to get rid of old games

Cons: Which means squat if you can't get what you want in return. The demand has gotten astronomical while the supply hasn't. I have Naruto clash of Revolution 2 as a requested title, i'm position number 2. That game has not been traded once since it came out in October. Popular games are becoming a waste of time to go after as well, I already know i'm going to end up just going after small stuff from here on out until my 3000 points are burned up and then i'm done with it.

Also like violetarrows just mentioned those points fluctuate at the drop of a hat, no rhyme or reason to it at times.

[Vinny]

You know, as much as I hate to admit it, but one huge advantage of Goozex is the fact that you don't need to deal with traders (unless there's some sort of problem).

It seems like nobody fucking responds to my offers on GameTZ anymore. I send an offer and even though the other trade logs in every day, my offers rarely get any sort of a response. How fucking hard is it to just ask for more time or decline a fucking offer?:bomb:

Too bad it's nearly impossible to get uncommon stuff on Goozex but it works ok for most new games.

[CaoPi]

You know, as much as I hate to admit it, but one huge advantage of Goozex is the fact that you don't need to deal with traders (unless there's some sort of problem).

It seems like nobody fucking responds to my offers on GameTZ anymore. I send an offer and even though the other trade logs in every day, my offers rarely get any sort of a response. How fucking hard is it to just ask for more time or decline a fucking offer?:bomb:

Too bad it's nearly impossible to get uncommon stuff on Goozex but it works ok for most new games.

Only problem I had once was user left a negative feedback for shipping in a generic blockbuster case, I had goozex fix that feedback. Also I find the PM system rather fustrating to use some never reply to me about the condition before shipping out...

[StarKnightX]

Only problem I had once was user left a negative feedback for shipping in a generic blockbuster case, I had goozex fix that feedback. Also I find the PM system rather fustrating to use some never reply to me about the condition before shipping out...

I agree with you on people not responding to pm's. Happens to me often and its definitely annoying. In regards to the negative feedback for the blockbuster case , was the game supposed to be complete or disk+manual/disk only? If it was supposed to be complete , then technically that wouldn't be complete (blockbuster case was not the original case the game came in). I've gotten a few games like that but always left positive feedback since it didn't really make that big of a deal to me.

[Vyrtigo]

I do how like they changed the points given to you right away instead of having the person confirmed that they received it and you finally get your points.

Actually, its been like that for quite a long time. You just have to have a certain number of positive trades first.

[hopeunknown]

Pros: Easiest way to get PS1, Dreamcast, and PC games cheap. Plus an easy way to get rid of said formats.

Also an easier/more valuable way to flip or get rid of games. Hell, even going to yard sales and finding games for a $1 that only go for 100-200 points I don't mind. Lately I just keep running out of trade credits.

Cons: Some people ship really slow. (I can be this way sometimes, admittedly). Easy to run out of trade credits. Some games are priced way higher than they should be (ie some 3-4 year old PS2 games at 400-500 points that aren't rare or high demand).

I wish there was a way that people with higher feedback could get bumped further ahead in the line for being "valued customers" or something like that. Would be better than the n00bs who constantly bug you for tracking confirmation codes and are super impatient.

[mike.m]

Got rid of garbage games that I couldn't sell, but nobody ever trades new release games.

[kube00]

Pros: Like the others said good way for me to unload lots of psx games I get cheap. Great way to get older games that retailers like GS still charge an arm and a leg for. Don't really have to deal with people. I've flipped a few games for much more points then I could get selling them.

Cons:
-Still tough to get new releases, although by being patient I did get Lego Indiana Jones ps2, Lego Batman ps2, and DBZ Burst limit ps3 within a 2 months of their release, I beat them and sent them on to someone else.

-Communication can be poor between traders especially noobs, shipping can be slow, sometimes it feels like parents patrol the site. (Just look at the forums there was one topic complaining about the ads, so don't let your 9 year old use the site, seesh!)

-Sometimes new games stay at 800-1000 pts too long.

-The idiots who join and don't read the instructions...most likely the same 9 year olds who's parents are on as well.

[CaoPi]

so what is your the secret to getting games early for new releases? I heard there was some way when you gotta request it by the release on on EST 12:00 AM?

[FlipSide]

so what is your the secret to getting games early for new releases? I heard there was some way when you gotta request it by the release on on EST 12:00 AM?

12am CST you gotta request the game as soon as the clock strikes midnight within 10 seconds (use timeanddate.com) to get on top 10. Just requested LoTR conquest for 360 and got #1 overall last night.

[blackjaw]

I've had bad luck with getting answers from their feedback email. Like right now I have a "trade" going on where the user confirmed shipping for Mario Kart DS but then PMd me saying he had the cart only. Of course if I'm going to pay 550 I want the full thing so I asked him to cancel. It's too late to cancel and now we need a mod/back end guy to fix this situation so I can get back in queue. No response in over a week...pretty lame.

[thebob101]

I think that it is getting worse because of all the new folks joining the site. It seems like they just send games no matter what the condition is and then complain when they receive the appropriate feedback (negative for games that are in horrible condition and won't play). I have had a rash of bad trades and as soon as I get rid of all of my points and trade credits, I am done with Goozex. Just too frustrating.

[Porksta]

My biggest problem is that it costs money. I know, it is only $1, but still, I can get rid of my games for free elsewhere.

[blackjaw]

I think that it is getting worse because of all the new folks joining the site. It seems like they just send games no matter what the condition is and then complain when they receive the appropriate feedback (negative for games that are in horrible condition and won't play). I have had a rash of bad trades and as soon as I get rid of all of my points and trade credits, I am done with Goozex. Just too frustrating.

I think I might be right behind you on that one.

[punkmaggit]

I'm still having loads of positive experiences on Goozex but a few ones come along to fuck it all up. I just received a "disc-only" copy of Wild Arms: Alter Code F when I requested a "full package". The guy claims he didn't know he was matched up for a "full-package" trade :bomb::bomb:. So it's now sitting in my offer list because NO ONE WANTS A DISC-ONLY RPG.


.... that being said, I did receive a brand new (sealed) copy of Darkstalkers for the psp just yesterday and Tales of Destiny a little while ago, so I'm happy.

[thebob101]

Another thing that has really bothered me about Goozex is the customer service. I always hear "be patient, it's only a staff of one," but that doesn't excuse never being contacted or being contacted 2 weeks after the fact. I had my account hacked and I never heard back from Goozex about the situation. My order for games was messed up, I received games I didn't want and they did nothing to help me. It just took them a week to answer a dispute (matter of fact, it was 2 hours before the dispute timed out). Just frustrating.

On the other hand, I have dealt with a lot of honest, responsible folks on Goozex and received a lot of games for next to nothing. I was totally happy with Goozex up until about 4 or 5 months ago.

[CaoPi]

12am CST you gotta request the game as soon as the clock strikes midnight within 10 seconds (use timeanddate.com) to get on top 10. Just requested LoTR conquest for 360 and got #1 overall last night.

hmm I see, I'm in CA so gotta do that 2 hours earlier then...

[the_grimace]

i dont like goozex, simply because it takes too long to get or get rid of something...

honestly, most of the games i wanted had like 50 people in queue in front of me.... and when i tried to trade some ofmy ps3 games, there was still people in front of me!!!!!!.

i remember i put the orange box up for trade on there and was number 43 in line to trade... i gave it 4 weeks of it just sitting there and my position only dropped to 38.... i eventually sold it on ebay

just too long to achieve the end result

[blackjaw]

I really do think they need to redo the queue system. I've unloaded LBP and Valkyria Chronicles on there in the past month, two HOT 1000 point games. Now if I'm unloading hot games with 100+ users wanting them I feel that I should get a little love and bumped up a couple slots on the 1000 pointers that I want.

I could easily have sold those to friends or on ebay and used the money to buy what I really wanted (other newer games) but instead I'm sitting with 2000 points in a queue of 50 for frekin Star Wars Force Unleashed for three months....lame. I could've sold LBP to EB and bought it, beaten it, and returned it within this time.

Like I said, I was real down with Goozex until my Mario Kart DS troubled user, now I'm seeing the flaws in the system and just want all my points to be used up (which could take months) and to get out.

Goozex is good if you want to play some older (1+ years old) games or are a collector and don't care about the condition, but when you are semi-casual like myself and just want newer games NOW, it doesnt work.

[FlipSide]

I think I might be right behind you on that one.

I'll be there soon too, just getting rid of my remaining points and credits.

[ChernobylCow]

...when you are semi-casual like myself and just want newer games NOW, it doesnt work.

Yes. It's just not for people who need it now, now, now.

I've had a good experience with Goozex, only a couple of lame goose eggs. Just recently traded a brand new $30 copy of Far Cry 2 from best buy to net me 1000points. Don't give a shit about that game but cross-referenced the BB price with the supply/demand and noticed there was no supply. Easy points.

No demand for Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. I don't care, I haven't played it. Don't think I'll get rid of it. It'll be here in a couple of days.

It's been a great way for me to try out PS2 games that I thought I'd like. I got Rogue Galaxy, played it a while, traded that sucker back in. Got a sealed copy of Disgaea 2, going to trade that back in.

If you have to have it NOW, why not just rent it?

[rothgar24]

Maybe it a little different for the ds than for higher-end systems like the 360 (and higher demand games), but I've had great experiences with goozex. I'm no power user but I've built up my ds collection with some solid games usually older with lower point totals. They have all been complete as requested. I just got Disgaea and Professor Layton which is about $60 worth of gaming from trades and both games look and play great.

It seems like if I put one game in my requests and am patient, within a few days to a week it gets matched. I've sent out 10 games I didn't really care for and received 10 I wanted and didn't have to drop a bunch of cash tracking down (which can be a problem when following too many deals on CAG).

Cons: I'm a patient trader but sometimes you wonder if your games will ever get traded. Some just aren't in demand. I just sent out Ratatouille (wii) which my 7-year old nephew never plays for about $20 in points ... but it took 3 months or so.

[QiG]

I've been noticing some changes at goozex lately. I can't tell if I like it or not, but I feel it's definitely in response to criticism of a lack of supply of new games. When you go to your request list and check the stats, the interface is different. It no longer lists the number of total requests in the queue directly. I track this in a spreadsheet to see how things are moving so I noticed immediately. I've been tracking my overall position to see how many true requests there are ahead of me, and my ready position, to see how many need to be traded *at this point in time* before I'm next in line.

It works kind of funny because for a game like Valkyria Chronicles I could be the 150th person to request it, the 92nd person to have it active, and the 65th person who is ready to buy it at this point. So there are three numbers to consider. I'm closer than it appears due to so many people having it on hold. On the other hand, I requested MGS4 last week and it showed me with similar stats (150 overall, 90 active) but I was 1st in line to be 'ready' to trade. It looked like I was much farther away if I just added it to my queue and it said I was #90 even though it's immediately available.

I just find it odd that they go with the middle figure to be the most apparant to users that don't look into it. I like knowing that at worst I'm X in line, and at best I'm X in line. The active position doesn't really mean all that much to me. But then again, maybe I'm the only one.

[Doomstink]

Goozex is great, I bought around 4000 points during the 50% off giftcards sale and am now down to 900 points. I've had a steady flow of games coming in since I bought the giftcards. I don't use the service to get games for myself, but rather to get games to flip on eBay for cash. I've managed to turn my $100.00 investment in points into $230.00, which has promptly been put into new games that I actually want. No waiting whatsoever.

[Doomstink]

I just got a trade in today that turned out to be my best yet. I just got a sealed copy of the Ocarina of Time/Master Quest disc. Best part was that it was only 400 points, and considering I got 1000 points for a $14.00 copy of Pure that I got back in December it was really only about $5.60. I've gone ahead and added it into my sealed game collection, as I already have an open copy from when I preordered Wind Waker back in 2003.

[FRAUD_WHATS_THAT]

Only problem I had once was user left a negative feedback for shipping in a generic blockbuster case, I had goozex fix that feedback. Also I find the PM system rather fustrating to use some never reply to me about the condition before shipping out...

Sorry I would have left negative feedback as well. Keep the $heit games, etc out of the system. Go trade your sheit at gamestop and stop wasting my time. Sorry lil rant there. Check my sig. I trade like 95% sealed games. It really pisses me off when I trade sealed games and get shit in return. I love Goozex and if CAG can do better than I'm even happier but I will probably continue using goozex until they fold, if they do? For those that complain, stop using goozex because that means one less person I have to fight to get a game or one less $heitty BB case that I need to own. Again sorry to make you the fall guy but I just had to defend poor ole Goozex when I have to. Their system's not perfect (pretty damn close)but it the best I've ever used.

[Renaissance 2K]

Sorry I would have left negative feedback as well.

As much as this sort of stuff annoys me (see my entry in the Bad Goozex Traders thread), the rules state that a missing case warrants Neutral feedback; not Negative feedback.

Yes, jackasses need to stop listing their stuff in the wrong condition, and yes, Goozex needs to start penalizing people that do. But by not following the rules yourself, you're just making it easier for them to get away with it.

[Porksta]

I have about 1800 points waiting to be spent. I only have 1 trade credit which I got for free for signing up, so I obviously don't want to waste it on a 100 point request. The problem I have is that you sit and wait for games, all the while the games slowly depreciate to the point that you don't want them at that value. I had been waiting for Dead Space for a while at 1000 points ($50), and realized I could just buy it for like $35. They also use some gay algorithm on game values and don't really value user feedback. Who in their right mind would send out Ehrgeiz for $10? When a game has 70+ people requesting and 0 people offering, or vice versa, then you know the points need to be raised or lowered acordingly.

[Doomstink]

Who in their right mind would send out Ehrgeiz for $10?

Believe it or not, some people would. A guy traded a mint condition copy of Snatcher at a Play N Trade near me for $.10

Some people are stupid and do not know the value of their games, so every once in a while people will be dumb enough to trade the game for that little. It won't happen often, but it will happen.

[rickonker]

Con: Goozex has fundamental flaws that make the system unsustainable in the long term. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[slidecage]

Con: Goozex has fundamental flaws that make the system unsustainable in the long term. Enjoy it while it lasts.

people have been saying that since DAY 1 and the company is still around for 2 + years

[rickonker]

people have been saying that since DAY 1
They were right. You can see the cracks starting to show. It's not rocket science...or maybe it is.

[CaoPi]

strange how Halo 3 jumped to 900 pts, this is pretty insane a few wks ago it was only 600 pts....

[slidecage]

They were right. You can see the cracks starting to show. It's not rocket science...or maybe it is.

show them then cause i really can not see any problems with the services

[coolsteel]

strange how Halo 3 jumped to 900 pts, this is pretty insane a few wks ago it was only 600 pts....

I just noticed that myself while browsiing , I was like huh?

[rickonker]

show them then cause i really can not see any problems with the services
Show who?

[slidecage]

Show who?

tell what the so called problems are then cause far as i can see there are no MAJOR ones

[rickonker]

tell what the so called problems are then cause far as i can see there are no MAJOR ones
We discussed them in some other goozex thread. I'll see if I can find it later

[saadman]

My biggest problem, and the reason I stopped using Goozex was their idea of a "complete" game is completely false. They describe a complete game as "case, instructions and any other accessories". So I am too assume that "any other accessories" are things like extra boxes or artbooks packed in with the item. For example, Persona 3 or Mana Khemia came in an extra box with bundled extras in EVERY GAME, not just a pre-order bonus or something. When I received those games, I only received the case, game and instructions, not the "extra accessories". Based on what I interpreted.....not a complete game. And my complaint was not honored.

[slidecage]

My biggest problem, and the reason I stopped using Goozex was their idea of a "complete" game is completely false. They describe a complete game as "case, instructions and any other accessories". So I am too assume that "any other accessories" are things like extra boxes or artbooks packed in with the item. For example, Persona 3 or Mana Khemia came in an extra box with bundled extras in EVERY GAME, not just a pre-order bonus or something. When I received those games, I only received the case, game and instructions, not the "extra accessories". Based on what I interpreted.....not a complete game. And my complaint was not honored.

i think it was told years ago that a compete game is just

Case+manual+ game


cousin got mana off gamefly and never got any of the extra stuff. Only the first prints had the extras anyways

[saadman]

Full Package
"I only accept the full original package, with the case, manuals and all accessories"

All accessories to me means extra sleeves + accessories included as if I were to buy it new at a store.

[Cyborger]

I'm still having loads of positive experiences on Goozex but a few ones come along to fuck it all up. I just received a "disc-only" copy of Wild Arms: Alter Code F when I requested a "full package". The guy claims he didn't know he was matched up for a "full-package" trade :bomb::bomb:. So it's now sitting in my offer list because NO ONE WANTS A DISC-ONLY RPG.


.... that being said, I did receive a brand new (sealed) copy of Darkstalkers for the psp just yesterday and Tales of Destiny a little while ago, so I'm happy.

Sorry for being off topic but what does Shaq Fu mean?

[punkmaggit]

Sorry for being off topic but what does Shaq Fu mean?

:lol::lol: It's the "foul-language filter" so I can't say fuck.

[dchrisd]

Full Package
"I only accept the full original package, with the case, manuals and all accessories"

All accessories to me means extra sleeves + accessories included as if I were to buy it new at a store.

Funny. I'm currently having a dispute with an annoying new member regarding this very issue. I requested complete, and was sent a game without the slip cover. I argue the game should not have been listed as complete, and is not complete, because the user should have known they weren't sending complete because the packaging is very generic looking(*) without the slip cover. This is unlike other situations where someone might have made an honest mistake, and didn't know a slip cover was included. This user knew they weren't sending complete.

(*) The cover is kinda hard to describe without pictures, but it's the type of cover that's solely meant to be background to an outer cover; its just a basic background image, it doesn't even give the game's title.

[slidecage]

think goozex is bad go to switchplanet.

they think complete is

Game - art work and book NO cASE meaning good chance your game is going to get crushed during shipping.


so far i had to report 2 games never got ds games cause there was small holes in the envlope and no game was inside. I dont know if these people ripped a hole in them and took the game out or it got ripped at the post office

[Renaissance 2K]

I agree that the punishment for incomplete titles needs to be more severe. Neutral feedback doesn't come with any points penalty; it's just an orange mark on the user's account and a reduction in feedback points that's undone with one positive trade.

I made the mistake of requesting a Special Edition game and only got the box and the game disc; no bonus content, no special packaging, not even the manual. The other trader's response was "lol sorry about that".

Yea, I know I posted this in the bad traders thread, but I'm still miffed about it since I'm now stuck with an expensive game that nobody's going to want incomplete.

[wbc1228]

My biggest problem, and the reason I stopped using Goozex was their idea of a "complete" game is completely false. They describe a complete game as "case, instructions and any other accessories". So I am too assume that "any other accessories" are things like extra boxes or artbooks packed in with the item. For example, Persona 3 or Mana Khemia came in an extra box with bundled extras in EVERY GAME, not just a pre-order bonus or something. When I received those games, I only received the case, game and instructions, not the "extra accessories". Based on what I interpreted.....not a complete game. And my complaint was not honored.

Mana Khemia was rereleased at a cheaper price without the box/artbook.

[CaoPi]

the pts really do fluctuate look at Disgaea 1 it's still 700....