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GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 02:59 AM
finally unlocked everyone and beat the game with everyone on medium or above. now it seems that outside of the beat gouken on hardest, everything will be done through challenges and online fighting. time to rape the challenges with good ole gief.

now I gotta turn my ps3 back on and check Godlyone's trophies to make sure I keep pace with him. ;)

@godlyone did you beat gouken on hardest honestly or did you use the 2nd player cheat?

I wonder can you use the second player cheat to fulfill the requirements to get gouken or do you have to do that against the cpu?

:lol: I gave up trying to compete with you trophy-wise in SF

I honestly defeated Gouken with an aggressively-offense-focused Akuma, it was a fluke but damn my adrenaline was kicking in.


Edit: I doubt getting a perfect and 3 ultra perfects fighting the second player would get you to Gouken but I may be wrong.

ohvermie
02-24-2009, 10:49 AM
If Seth weren't such a pain in my ass, I would actually attempt to go for the single play trophies, but honestly, why frustrate myself on that stuff, when I can frustrate myself by playing poorly online. ;)

HowStern
02-24-2009, 11:28 AM
:lol: I found out that staying in one spot with Blanka and constantly using his electric thunder works wonders, he just walks into it.

When the match starts off (most of the time) he stretches out and punches you, jump and fierce kick him then crouch and trip him (don't jump at him again or he'll kock you with a Shoryuken). Get away, keep your distance and block his sonic booms. He'll eventually do a wall jump at you and that's when you attack. Get away and do it again.

Once he's close enough to you he'll rape you with Shoryukens and Piledrivers. It's not a deadset way of defeating him but it'll help in learning what works and what doesn't for you.

lol yeah that is basically move for move what he would do. I'm going to give him another go ASAP

DarkKenpachi
02-24-2009, 11:42 AM
:lol: I gave up trying to compete with you trophy-wise in SF

I honestly defeated Gouken with an aggressively-offense-focused Akuma, it was a fluke but damn my adrenaline was kicking in.


Edit: I doubt getting a perfect and 3 ultra perfects fighting the second player would get you to Gouken but I may be wrong.

awww come on we are neck and neck right now. lol

I am going to try soon for that trophy after I get the 100 wins. I actually beat it with zangeif and balrog on hardest without loosing a round. did the ultras with both of them as well. couldn't get the perfects though. For some strange reason I think I am going to be able to get this trophy by using seth.


If Seth weren't such a pain in my ass, I would actually attempt to go for the single play trophies, but honestly, why frustrate myself on that stuff, when I can frustrate myself by playing poorly online. ;)

ohvermie stop it man your good. your zangief Is honestly one level away from being a saiyan. lol

seth has a vey predictable pattern, it just throws most people off(myself included) when he teleports and throws so much. I never have any problems with him with any shotos,(dan included) zangief, sagat, balrog, fei long, sakura, or gen. its those other people arghhh that took so long to beat him with.

JEKKI
02-24-2009, 02:18 PM
so Kenpachiexodia or Godly0ne, can you guys kara cancel? ive been trying and trying but my fingers cant do the 3/60th frame cancel.are you using ken?? do you mean his kara throw??

input towards+mk+lp+lk at the same time, but situate your fingers so that the finger that hits mk extends longer than the fingers hitting lp+lk, that way it's like you're hitting all buttons at the same time even tho one button is getting hit a split split second sooner than the other two buttons.

then like magic, your Ken will teleport magically forward into a throw animation.

btw I got my PS3 copy yesterday. If anyone wants a beatdown hit me up

DarkKenpachi
02-24-2009, 02:28 PM
@jekki soon as I see you online I am sending you an invite. we had some great matches on SSF2THD.

dallow
02-24-2009, 03:49 PM
I just got the game, but after reading the convos above me, I'm scurred. :(

DarkKenpachi
02-24-2009, 03:57 PM
I just got the game, but after reading the convos above me, I'm scurred. :(

don't be scurred lol. its ok the game is fun as well as frustrating. but I will say this, I already feel like I got my money's worth for this game. still debating on getting the other 4 costume packs though.

and add me for a game anytime.


*you should be afraid of the challenges, be very afraid*

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 04:06 PM
The Survival Challenges get intense later on, I'm on the 6th or 7th one and you have to fight 20 rounds, almost never made it to the end. :dunce:

Lost_In_Shadows
02-24-2009, 04:10 PM
Anyone feel free to add me. I'm not that bad at the game or that great.

HowStern
02-24-2009, 04:22 PM
Ok so this is what I have found to be the best layout for myself when using the DS3

L1-LP
L2-LK
(this makes grabbing to throw a more natural motion like as if you were actually grabbing with your hand)

[]-MP
^-HP
X-MK
O-HK
(just remember that changes focus attacks to using X and [] from O and ^)

R1-lp+mp+hp
R2-lk+mk+hk
(this makes ultra combos more accessible)

blueweltall
02-24-2009, 04:47 PM
Seth is such a Douche bag.:bomb:

Roa
02-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Seth is such a Douche bag.:bomb:

Haha I almost threw my controller trying to beat him with Dhalsim. It took me 25 tries on Medium :lol:

ohvermie
02-24-2009, 05:49 PM
The Survival Challenges get intense later on, I'm on the 6th or 7th one and you have to fight 20 rounds, almost never made it to the end. :dunce:
There are survival challenges (or maybe time attack) later on where they make your character invisible. D:

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 05:54 PM
There are survival challenges (or maybe time attack) later on where they make your character invisible. D:

:shock:

DarkKenpachi
02-24-2009, 05:58 PM
:shock:


this

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 06:06 PM
Anyways, I went back to playing II' hyper/HDR to get some ranked wins and aside from not finding any games, I just can't switch playing between SF II and SF IV. Takes a couple of minutes for me to readjust.

nbballard
02-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Oh yea, everybody-- I ordered my Saturn to USB adaptors from RetroUSB.com on friday. I'll be sure to let everyone know how they play once they get here. I'm really excited.

I thought about ordering the USB control from eBay, but I'm odd and prefer the fat US saturn controller. They were also kind of expensive with the new rush on them.

I got 2 chips for 40 dollars shipped. I'm likely to order a super long USB cord too, so i can sit near my tv.

BostonCollegeFan
02-24-2009, 06:19 PM
I actually lost some matches last night in ranked. Of course they where to Ryu's and Ken's which made me eternally mad.

dragonjud
02-24-2009, 06:34 PM
Oh yea, everybody-- I ordered my Saturn to USB adaptors from RetroUSB.com on friday. I'll be sure to let everyone know how they play once they get here. I'm really excited.

I thought about ordering the USB control from eBay, but I'm odd and prefer the fat US saturn controller. They were also kind of expensive with the new rush on them.

I got 2 chips for 40 dollars shipped. I'm likely to order a super long USB cord too, so i can sit near my tv.


Yes, please let us know how these work for you. I'm very interested.

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 06:49 PM
Funny that I have no lag playing against Japanese players but the lag kicks in once I start playing people here in the States.

After the Bison vs. Bison match that I barely won, I think it's time for a break from Street Fighter before I go insane with trying to figure out strategies during online matches. :lol:

Bretts31344
02-24-2009, 06:57 PM
Ok so this is what I have found to be the best layout for myself when using the DS3

L1-LP
L2-LK
(this makes grabbing to throw a more natural motion like as if you were actually grabbing with your hand)

[]-MP
^-HP
X-MK
O-HK
(just remember that changes focus attacks to using X and [] from O and ^)

R1-lp+mp+hp
R2-lk+mk+hk
(this makes ultra combos more accessible)

That is my layout too. I need to attempt more throws though.

HowStern
02-24-2009, 07:05 PM
^Nice. Yeah, same here. When I first switched it to that I was forgetting about throws because I was used to not using L1/2 so much. I think I am giong to buy one of those fightpads some day if there is a good deal on 'em maybe. But this is a good layout for now.

Lost_In_Shadows
02-24-2009, 07:25 PM
I just beat Street fighter 4 on the hardest Diff I feel special. :)

dallow
02-24-2009, 07:30 PM
With who?

Also, this pic made me laugh.
And I play as him. :)

http://www.iplaywinner.com/storage/images/kenflowchart.png

enufs8d
02-24-2009, 07:46 PM
dallow - great find

Lost_In_Shadows
02-24-2009, 07:49 PM
With who?

Also, this pic made me laugh.
And I play as him. :)

[[/spoiler]

I beat it with Cammy. She is my girl xD

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 07:54 PM
http://www.iplaywinner.com/storage/images/kenflowchart.png

:rofl::applause:

Paco
02-24-2009, 08:29 PM
With who?

Also, this pic made me laugh.
And I play as him. :)

http://www.iplaywinner.com/storage/images/kenflowchart.png

DAMN IT I WANTED TO POST THAT ;)

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 09:18 PM
I couldn't help but play a couple of more ranked games, but fuck the Ryu and Ken players who resort to repeatedly-tripping once you're about to win. They crouch and trip you, you get up, they do it to you again the moment you get up - rinse and repeat. You manage to jump out of it but they get you again with it... :bomb: :roll:

optimusprime8062
02-24-2009, 09:23 PM
So, there are 27 pages and I didnt go through all of them...but apparently there is some sort of glitch with Seth if you have both the game installed and the patch. (This pertains to playing the game on the easier settings apparently).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=943711&topic=48245485

Paco
02-24-2009, 09:27 PM
I couldn't help but play a couple of more ranked games, but fuck the Ryu and Ken players who resort to repeatedly-tripping once you're about to win. They crouch and trip you, you get up, they do it to you again the moment you get up - rinse and repeat. You manage to jump out of it but they get you again with it... :bomb: :roll:

I love having instant ultra. I do Balrog's ultra the moment they do the sweep. SAY GOODNIGHT DUMBASS. I also love the buffalo headbutt for this especially when EX'D

GodlyOne
02-24-2009, 09:31 PM
I love having instant ultra. I do Balrog's ultra the moment they do the sweep. SAY GOODNIGHT DUMBASS. I also love the buffalo headbutt for this especially when EX'D

:lol: Though it's pretty hard for me to slap them with Bison's ultra when I have to charge it while getting tripped.

bigl523
02-24-2009, 09:32 PM
Here's what I'm using for my pad http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=roeu,en

I bought 2 of these years ago to use with my htpc and some mame games, who would have known the stupid thing would work on my ps3! I like the d-pad a lot better than the ps3 (and so does my thumb).

Paco
02-24-2009, 09:38 PM
:lol: Though it's pretty hard for me to slap them with Bison's ultra when I have to charge it while getting tripped.

I'm ALWAYS CHARGING with Balrog. I jump and I'm charging. I get tripped and I'm charging still, I get up and I'm still charging. 80% of my fight is charging no matter what I'm doing.

Lost_In_Shadows
02-24-2009, 09:57 PM
Here's what I'm using for my pad http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=roeu,en

I bought 2 of these years ago to use with my htpc and some mame games, who would have known the stupid thing would work on my ps3! I like the d-pad a lot better than the ps3 (and so does my thumb).

After you said that I tried my pc controller I have on the ps3, and it worked. I wish it was that simple for the 360.

bigl523
02-24-2009, 09:59 PM
Yea, it's sweet how it seems that just about any usb device will work with the pstriple.

HowStern
02-24-2009, 10:25 PM
So, there are 27 pages and I didnt go through all of them...but apparently there is some sort of glitch with Seth if you have both the game installed and the patch. (This pertains to playing the game on the easier settings apparently).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=943711&topic=48245485

Oh, nice. I am going to delete my install next before giving it another try. Because I had both patch and the game installed and he was basically unbeatable.

coleipoo
02-24-2009, 11:21 PM
my psn is tangowned

You can dd me if you want. i haven't played online yet, still getting used to the game. I found that i am really good with Viper and Fei long...gonna get those down as my mains.

Also, there are two different saturn USB pads on ebay, one is 32 and the other is 45. Is there any difference? Is the 32 dollar one a knockoff? I'd buy a stick but I honestly can't find one anywhere. I live in rural ND so I have to rely on the net, and we all know how that's going.

RelentlessRolento
02-24-2009, 11:26 PM
fuck you Ken online players. at least play Ryu if you're going to play shoto.

distgfx
02-24-2009, 11:28 PM
fuck you Ken online players. at least play Ryu if you're going to play shoto.

SFIV Patch 1.02 - No Ken Mode

Total number of players - 3

RelentlessRolento
02-24-2009, 11:36 PM
SFIV Patch 1.02 - No Ken Mode

Total number of players - 3


Then everyone can finally move on and play Dan. for once.

JEKKI
02-25-2009, 12:02 AM
GGs Kenpachi.

mother freakin Honda man... I never played him yet but he gives me as much trouble as Balrog does!!

I still gotta level up my Blanka, less turtle and more rushdown, otherwise I jus lose lol

distgfx
02-25-2009, 12:41 AM
Then everyone can finally move on and play Dan. for once.

I sooo want to fight your Dan sometime.

Roa
02-25-2009, 12:42 AM
Here's what I'm using for my pad http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=roeu,en

I bought 2 of these years ago to use with my htpc and some mame games, who would have known the stupid thing would work on my ps3! I like the d-pad a lot better than the ps3 (and so does my thumb).

I really didn't know about that! I have 5 Logitech controllers for pc gaming and MAME and I didn't think that was possible :applause: I do like playing with these and never have problems with them. Tried a controller and it worked :) Guess I won't be needing any extra controllers for the PS3.

Thanks for the info.

distgfx
02-25-2009, 12:57 AM
Most PC controllers actually work for the PS3, just posting this in case anyone else comes across this and wonders.

RelentlessRolento
02-25-2009, 01:03 AM
I sooo want to fight your Dan sometime.


if you see me on SFIV, just invt me.

I'm not great, but I put up a good fight.

GodlyOne
02-25-2009, 01:09 AM
I don't know why but I could listen to the Character Select BGM for hours and never get tired of it. :-\"

slam09
02-25-2009, 01:10 AM
fuck you Ken online players. at least play Ryu if you're going to play shoto.
But he's on fire when he does Shoryukens! ON FIRE! IT'S SO EXTREME!

RelentlessRolento
02-25-2009, 01:19 AM
But he's on fire when he does Shoryukens! ON FIRE! IT'S SO EXTREME!

Same could be said about flaming homosexuals. not that I don't like them, just annoying.

dallow
02-25-2009, 01:30 AM
So why do people hate the shoto's online? Especially Ken.
I'm assuming it's because they like to spam the same few moves over and over, but wouldn't that just make them easy to beat?

distgfx
02-25-2009, 01:35 AM
So why do people hate the shoto's online? Especially Ken.
I'm assuming it's because they like to spam the same few moves over and over, but wouldn't that just make them easy to beat?

It's because people don't like fighting the same basic character over and over and over and over and over. We want some variety.

slam09
02-25-2009, 02:12 AM
Anyone have a good strategy to actually land Vega's Ultra? I'm always way too high up on the screen.

GodlyOne
02-25-2009, 02:25 AM
Anyone have a good strategy to actually land Vega's Ultra? I'm always way too high up on the screen.

I think you should make sure your opponent is standing near the middle of the screen before you throw it out.

Arakias
02-25-2009, 09:41 AM
I havnt found it posted (might be buried), but was reading that there is "secret additional downloadable content that we’re not quite ready to reveal at this point. Look for more announcements soon!" from this (http://kotaku.com/5114739/street-fighter-iv-collectors-edition-revealed-with-new-box-art)
anyone know what it is (or if that is true)?

ohvermie
02-25-2009, 10:07 AM
I don't know why but I could listen to the Character Select BGM for hours and never get tired of it. :-\"
I am surprised that the OST included with the CE didn't open with it. I want it, with both English and Japanese lyrics.

But the Sakura theme is hawt stuff, I love it.

As for hating fighting shotos online, I think playing all these shotos online has degraded my play skill. I play ranked for a bit, go against like 10+ shotos and then totally scrub it up against a below average M. Bison simply because I am in this shoto destroying mindset.

Oh the DLC they are refering to in the Kotaku link is the Brawler pack DLC, when that article was posted, they didn't announce alt costumes as DLC yet.

Arakias
02-25-2009, 10:16 AM
ok thanks ohvermie, found the detail because of your post "The Collector's edition will come with the brawler pack of alternate costumes, meaning you get the alts for Zangief, Honda, Abel, Elfuerte and Rufus." too bad it isnt exclusive to CE.

DarkKenpachi
02-25-2009, 11:37 AM
With who?

Also, this pic made me laugh.
And I play as him. :)

http://www.iplaywinner.com/storage/images/kenflowchart.png

best picture because it is so true. lol


GGs Kenpachi.

mother freakin Honda man... I never played him yet but he gives me as much trouble as Balrog does!!

I still gotta level up my Blanka, less turtle and more rushdown, otherwise I jus lose lol

thanks jekki. I feel like I have to turn super saiyan to beat your blanka. ggs. I will see you again soon.

SFIV Patch 1.02 - No Ken Mode

Total number of players - 3

I have to disagree When ever I play I see a little bit of everybody. with the most zangiefs and sagats as of recently.

also if anybody has ever played me they know I tend to pick a variety of characters as that I can play somewhat good with almost everybody.

So why do people hate the shoto's online? Especially Ken.
I'm assuming it's because they like to spam the same few moves over and over, but wouldn't that just make them easy to beat?

i think it is because ken and ryu are your basic safe characters. anybody new to any different street fighter game can pick them up and more or less give anyone a challenge. using almost anyone else in the game takes much more skill.

ohvermie
02-25-2009, 12:26 PM
I think the frequency of Ken/Ryu has to do with your BP ranking. Once you get up to the high thousands you will start seeing the rest of the cast. It's just the low end that's all Ken/Ryu because of their accessibility.

If it's non-ranked, I'll play anyone and anything (check out my horrible C. Viper, at least she's styling!). If it's ranked, I will go Blanka, Guile, or Balrog.

Anyone know how to get more icons besides the flower ones that come with certain amount of wins in ranked? I played someone last night that had a cardboard box with a Vega mask on it.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 01:02 PM
I've only played 1 ranked match the first day I had the game, and I was testing a new character so i got destroyed. My BP stayed 0 though, so whatever.

How does the BP work? If you lose does it go down? Or does it stay the same?

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 01:11 PM
If you lose, it drops. Pretty significantly, too. Several wins against a person of equal BP = one loss against a person of equal BP.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 01:18 PM
wow. that's kind of lame. I was thinking it would probably be similar to the SSBB online ranking, where if i remember correctly, you only moved up, not down.

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 01:41 PM
The approach is more like Halo 3's ranking system. The idea is that you'll be able to face people of your own presumed skill level based on this BP number.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 01:53 PM
yea, i understand- it makes sense. On the other system you can suck pretty bad and still build up a high rank just by sheer determination.

Pck21
02-25-2009, 01:53 PM
The approach is more like Halo 3's ranking system. The idea is that you'll be able to face people of your own presumed skill level based on this BP number.

Well then the system is flawed fubar style. I have 54 BPs (maybe) and I'm constantly playing people with 500+ BPs. I have it set on "find my skill level" in the options too. :-k

MiniB0ssBattle
02-25-2009, 02:05 PM
DarkKenpachi just ran a clinic (as in beatdown) on me. I was too in awe of his awesome dragonpunch and FACD combos. I sent out my joystick and now I am trying to use the DS3 analog stick. I think I need to move to the d-pad.
Also, Dark, after you killing me 6 times in a row, I defeated like 5 dudes with blanka and zangief. I think you showed me to be more aggresive and BLOCK!!

Speaking of which, I can't seem to block Ken's EX dragon punch. Do I crouch block or just block?

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Well then the system is flawed fubar style. I have 54 BPs (maybe) and I'm constantly playing people with 500+ BPs. I have it set on "find my skill level" in the options too. :-k

I can understand that. I'm guessing that once things start rounding out a bit more, the playing field will even itself out. Right now, you're probably facing people with 500 BPs that will ultimate have thousands and thousands.


Speaking of which, I can't seem to block Ken's EX dragon punch. Do I crouch block or just block?

It's not an overhead attack. Block or crouch block. It shouldn't matter. Priority wise it'll trump anything you try to perform against it when it starts.

ohvermie
02-25-2009, 02:44 PM
As if Ken's dragon punch needed any more priority... :P

Paco
02-25-2009, 02:47 PM
Ken and Sagat need NERFING. Ken just out of spite and Sagat because he can be really unbalanced in the hands of a spammer.

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 02:50 PM
Ken and Sagat need NERFING. Ken just out of spite and Sagat because he can be really unbalanced in the hands of a spammer.

Sagat has always needed nerfing. I don't know if he's ever NOT been top tier.

Ken doesn't need nerfing. If you're having a lot of trouble against a scrubby Ken, you just have to look to punish overzealous Shoryukens. A good Ken player is very capable, but not overpowered. It just so happens that a scrubby Ken with outscrub another scrubby player due to priority.

Lost_In_Shadows
02-25-2009, 02:53 PM
Ken and Sagat need NERFING. Ken just out of spite and Sagat because he can be really unbalanced in the hands of a spammer.

Sagat spams you to death on the hardest diff. Also does a few others. I unlocked all the characters last night, and beat it on hard it makes me proud. xD

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 02:54 PM
As if Ken's dragon punch needed any more priority... :P

True, but it only acts like this on a grounded opponent. And it's also the riskiest to use on a grounded opponent (unless you're in the middle of a combo of course). EX Shoryken flies way high in the air. Just let that Ultra fly as he's coming down.

Paco
02-25-2009, 02:55 PM
Sagat has always needed nerfing. I don't know if he's ever NOT been top tier.

Ken doesn't need nerfing. If you're having a lot of trouble against a scrubby Ken, you just have to look to punish overzealous Shoryukens. A good Ken player is very capable, but not overpowered. It just so happens that a scrubby Ken with outscrub another scrubby player due to priority.

I'm not having any trouble with Ken. I beat 99% of Ken's online. I just want Ken nerfed for the hell of it and just for shits and giggles to see what the scrub fans do. I always punish Shoryukens with Scrub Toss or Ultra/Super Combos if I have em.

And Sagat just needs nerfing because Capcom needs to get rid of their hard on for him. He throws his tiger shots way too fast compared to everyone else's projectile. If they slowed it down a bit, then I'd be more ok with him, but his almost seem instataniuous compared to everyone else's fireballs.

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 03:03 PM
I'm not having any trouble with Ken. I beat 99% of Ken's online. I just want Ken nerfed for the hell of it and just for shits and giggles to see what the scrub fans do. I always punish Shoryukens with Scrub Toss or Ultra/Super Combos if I have em.

And Sagat just needs nerfing because Capcom needs to get rid of their hard on for him. He throws his tiger shots way too fast compared to everyone else's projectile. If they slowed it down a bit, then I'd be more ok with him, but his almost seem instataniuous compared to everyone else's fireballs.

It's only because everyone wants to be a little Daigo. I'm a Ken player, so I obviously have a vested interest in him not being nerfed.

Sagat's fireballs are fast, but you can duck/jump over them easier than any other fireball. And Sagat sticks his arms way out in the middle of the screen. I think fireball wars are largely less effective in IV because of the Focus Attack (although not as much as in III because of the Parry). If you Focus Attack the fireballs, you get revenge meter... and against a Tiger Shot happy Sagat, you can just evade their projectiles until your health regenerates.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 03:38 PM
In SF3:3S, I seem to remember there being a lot of moves that could pass under some of the higher projectiles like Remy's sonic boom. If they did it again in 4, and that knowledge spreads, he'll be nerfed on his own.

Isn't Ken supposed to be near bottom tier in competative play?

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 03:59 PM
In SF3:3S, I seem to remember there being a lot of moves that could pass under some of the higher projectiles like Remy's sonic boom. If they did it again in 4, and that knowledge spreads, he'll be nerfed on his own.

Isn't Ken supposed to be near bottom tier in competative play?

There are some normal moves that slide under projectiles... notably Blanka's c.forward HP. There are, of course, other moves that pass through projectiles entirely.

Last I heard Ken was average. So far, Ryu is claimed to be better. I guess Ken had his spotlight in 3, after all.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 04:22 PM
There are some normal moves that slide under projectiles... notably Blanka's c.forward HP. There are, of course, other moves that pass through projectiles entirely.

Yea, i know that- and i guess it's the same- but it was just a few special attacks that came in low.

Anyone have any good play strategies for Gouken? He seemed fun when i played with him last night, but at the same time, a lot of his moves seemed to be very vulnerable (hurricane kick mainly)

GuardianE
02-25-2009, 04:25 PM
Yea, i know that- and i guess it's the same- but it was just a few special attacks that came in low.

Anyone have any good play strategies for Gouken? He seemed fun when i played with him last night, but at the same time, a lot of his moves seemed to be very vulnerable (hurricane kick mainly)

I haven't played with him much, but his rushing punch apparently goes through projectiles.

His hurricane kick is more of an antiair move when compared to Ryu and Ken. Also, notice the trajectory when used in the air. It can be useful for mobility.

And everyone keeps telling me throw into Ultra is a beautiful thing.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 04:33 PM
yea, he has a few moves that allow for juggles- like his throw, and his EX rushing punch. I was having a hard time using his angled fireballs because of the DS3. I might go back to him once i get my Saturn controller working.

nbballard
02-25-2009, 05:36 PM
I've noticed a few little bitty references to other street fighter games littered around in SF4. Anyone see anything interesting?

The most obvious was Yun/Yang in Chun-li's intro. Last night I noticed Seth tells Boxer that his skills are sloppy and he has already recorded a boxer that was much more refined. I saw that as a Dudley reference, but maybe I was reading too far into it.

(Sorry to double post!)

Ultimate Matt X
02-25-2009, 06:34 PM
Would you guys like to get together Friday and Saturday and make some way that we could all chat together while we're playing? I wish you could get in and out of Home quicker, if so that would be a viable option.

GodlyOne
02-25-2009, 08:04 PM
Got my first bastard who disconnected after I defeated him in an online match yesterday and it was only a Player match. Good to know that it counts as a loss for them if they disconnect though.

TheFreshPrince
02-25-2009, 08:14 PM
Anybody have any tips for a brand new Street Fighter player? I've never really gotten into fighting games before, but I love SFIV. Unfortunately, I'm terrible at it :(....

Any ideas for as to how I can improve? I've been trying to find a character to main (basically spending a day online with each one...no luck so far), but any tips for how to practice, who to pick, what to work on?

Thanks!

Paco
02-25-2009, 08:25 PM
I've noticed a few little bitty references to other street fighter games littered around in SF4. Anyone see anything interesting?

The most obvious was Yun/Yang in Chun-li's intro. Last night I noticed Seth tells Boxer that his skills are sloppy and he has already recorded a boxer that was much more refined. I saw that as a Dudley reference, but maybe I was reading too far into it.

(Sorry to double post!)

Dudley is gutter trash compared to Balrog. Balrog is faster, stronger and bigger then Dudley. Though from pure personality Dudley does edge out Balrog.

Furashu
02-25-2009, 08:49 PM
Anybody have any tips for a brand new Street Fighter player? I've never really gotten into fighting games before, but I love SFIV. Unfortunately, I'm terrible at it :(....

Any ideas for as to how I can improve? I've been trying to find a character to main (basically spending a day online with each one...no luck so far), but any tips for how to practice, who to pick, what to work on?

Thanks!

read my blog post ?

thats where i started.

i played SF2turbo when i was 8, then played marvel vs capcom 2 for fun.

after that didnt touch fighting games till tekken tag for fun... played for a week then stopped. then got tekken DR on psn, played randomly for fun.

then i got SF4, played for 20 hours after 4 days of owning it.

lol think im pretty decent now

RelentlessRolento
02-25-2009, 10:05 PM
... Dan matches here.

SisterRay
02-25-2009, 10:41 PM
If Seth weren't such a pain in my ass, I would actually attempt to go for the single play trophies, but honestly, why frustrate myself on that stuff, when I can frustrate myself by playing poorly online. ;)

You beat me three games in a row (PalaceBrother), but that isn't saying a lot. I'm about two for forty in total online matches.

Thanks for not being a douche btw-I can't tell you how frustrating the crowd has been so far for me on PSN. Not sure if that's a universal experience or what...

DarkKenpachi
02-25-2009, 11:11 PM
omg time challenge 10. flippin blanka keep stopping me from getting past that challenge and getting along in my life to complete my trophies. arghhh just had to post about it.

I think I can't beat blank because of jekki. everytime I see him now I freeze. THANKS JEKKI FOR SCARRING ME FOR LIFE. lol

Oktoberfest
02-25-2009, 11:38 PM
just to make sure, are the alternate costumes on PSN game-sharable? I'm going to assume they are, just like everything else on PSN it seems like

Slade
02-26-2009, 12:27 AM
Been maining Rose lately.

I like her style, very easy to play mind games with her. A few air throws here, a couple of reflects there and it's funny how much people are thrown off their rhythm and hesitant to get back into their strategy.

Helps that in 150+ fights online, I've never seen a Rose player online other than myself.

Also, on a side note does anyone here use a Hori fighting Stick 3?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0256628

I'm thinking of picking them up because $150 is way too much to pay for some controllers especially since I'll need to buy two of them.

Does the Hori 3 work on Vista 64 bit ?

Bretts31344
02-26-2009, 12:39 AM
Been maining Rose lately.

I like her style, very easy to play mind games with her. A few air throws here, a couple of reflects there and it's funny how much people are thrown off their rhythm and hesitant to get back into their strategy.

Helps that in 150+ fights online, I've never seen a Rose player online other than myself.

Also, on a side note does anyone here use a Hori fighting Stick 3?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0256628

I'm thinking of picking them up because $150 is way too much to pay for some controllers especially since I'll need to buy two of them.

Does the Hori 3 work on Vista 64 bit ?


I have that stick. I believe it worked on Gametap when I played with Windows 7 64bit and Vista 64 bit. I honestly suck with it on SFIV, but I haven't used it much so I probably need way more practice. I haven't used any other sticks either. Sorry that pretty much the only thing I said was "It SHOULD work with 64 OS's, lol".

Oktoberfest
02-26-2009, 12:54 AM
I've been maining Rose, too. Don't think she's my best character yet, but I hope to get her there

Esper
02-26-2009, 12:59 AM
strategy.

Helps that in 150+ fights online, I've never seen a Rose player online other than myself.


I play Rose too, but I don't main her. She's a backup. I main Dictator.


And to Nibi, sorry I haven't been able to accept your invite. I left my PS3 on and went out to do an errand.

If anyone wants to play a couple of matches, I'm on right now. Send me an invite.

Nibi
02-26-2009, 02:14 AM
Holy crap Jman! Fifty matches. That was pretty nicely done. I had a great time playing you and I learned quite a bit.

JEKKI
02-26-2009, 04:14 AM
GGs wotcher.

sum advice:

learn to SPD more consistently with Zangief. Zangief is a cheap bastard and u had me in hella situations where u coulda nailed me, but u never did. I felt a lot safer thus playing against your Gief and did a lot of things I normally wouldnt do against him.

also u seem quite comfortable with Cammy. You should practice her more. Cammy is like Ryu n Ken in like she has a lot of easy 2-3-hit combos that can do nice damage. Try to learn a lot of these combos and find the opportunities to land them.

the Cammy tutorial combo vid from 1up was actually released earlier today, check it out

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23793

also if u guys havent seen 1up's SFIV superguide yet... wtf, go check it out now.

http://mycheats.1up.com/view/superguide/3163881/street_fighter_4/xbox_360

it's one of the best online resources for this game that's very entry-level friendly.

ohvermie
02-26-2009, 11:25 AM
You beat me three games in a row (PalaceBrother), but that isn't saying a lot. I'm about two for forty in total online matches.

Thanks for not being a douche btw-I can't tell you how frustrating the crowd has been so far for me on PSN. Not sure if that's a universal experience or what...
The crowd on PSN has been decent. Although last night I played a couple ranked matches against some disconnecters.

Funny thing was, they were both playing Akuma. I was kind of being a douche to them though. I just kept on baiting them and then biting them in the face. I would win round one with nothing but throws, and then the first throw of round two...disconnect. :P

enufs8d
02-26-2009, 11:29 AM
well, i had the pleasure of getting mauled by jekki's blanka. its just a whole world difference between doing regular/super moves and linking/cancel/fadc into them.

and thanks for the tips. im better with hdr cammy. still haven't made the transition. if you didnt notice during our games, i kept whiffing on the hooligan throws.

Lost_In_Shadows
02-26-2009, 01:36 PM
Holy crap Jman! Fifty matches. That was pretty nicely done. I had a great time playing you and I learned quite a bit.

That is the longest I've played the game at once. My total time now is 13:55. I think Street Fighter 4 is my favorite game now. After about 30 matches I wondered to myself I wonder how much longer is he going to play. xD Yeah it was fun. We should do that again sometime. ^_^

LinkinPrime
02-26-2009, 02:37 PM
Any chance anyone that got a CE want to trade their Ryu figure for my C. Viper? LMK.

DarkKenpachi
02-26-2009, 03:10 PM
I finally beat the survival mode last night on normal and the first round on hard. so I am all proud of my little trophy for that.

now tonights 3 tasks.


-get up to 200 matches online
-finish the last 7 rounds on time challenege normal
-unlock all colors and personal actions

MiniB0ssBattle
02-26-2009, 04:49 PM
DarkKenpachi, what kind of controller do you use? I tried to join up with your invite but was stuck on my 4/5 cammy training challenge. Sticking to quatercircle characters until i get my joystick & trying to get timing and anti-air down.

HowStern
02-26-2009, 05:06 PM
Does anyone use the fightpad? I like the way it looks like it feels but I wonder how it actually does feel.

MasterSun1
02-26-2009, 05:06 PM
The really need to a provide an update that allows locking of characters. I'm sick of playing against Ken/Akuma/Sagat online and people just spamming fireballs. Once most of them realize I can avoid them (using Blanka) and I'll just wait the time out (with more health then them), they just disconnect.

Also, people that play 1 Round are stupid, as are people who don't install, as are people that wait until the last second to choose (AKA Ken/Akuma/Sagat). At least I highlight who I'll be.

Oh, and please add me. I need to play against some CAGers instead of random losers online.

PSN: AndySun124

SteveMcQ
02-26-2009, 05:35 PM
Damn, I suck at this game. I can't even make it through Arcade Mode on easy and it's getting really frustrating. I've only played Street Fighter maybe once or twice before this game, so I can't wrap my head around the move sets and timing and all that jazz. Playing with Ryu and all I can do consistently is his fireball and spinning kick across the screen. Will this be something I get noticeably better at from just playing or am I going to have to put it more time to actually learn the little things separately? I'm even stuck on the normal challenge mode with his move sets.

Paco
02-26-2009, 05:38 PM
Damn, I suck at this game. I can't even make it through Arcade Mode on easy and it's getting really frustrating. I've only played Street Fighter maybe once or twice before this game, so I can't wrap my head around the move sets and timing and all that jazz. Playing with Ryu and all I can do consistently is his fireball and spinning kick across the screen. Will this be something I get noticeably better at from just playing or am I going to have to put it more time to actually learn the little things separately? I'm even stuck on the normal challenge mode with his move sets.

Erase your install and patch and go from there. I noticed the game was hard as shit on easiest, but then when I did that, the game became so much easier. The patch messed something so easiest will be like medium/hard for Seth.

HowStern
02-26-2009, 05:57 PM
I got kicked twice in a row earlier by frustrated spammers.
One kid kept picking Blanka and trying to spam me with his electricity and so I kept picking Abel and everytime i saw him punch a couple times wildly I knew he was tapping Punch and so i would run up and throw him around.
If he did manage to get electricity going I would focus attack and super him.

Once he realized he couldn't do this anymore and had to pick someone new guess where he went:Ryu..lol
So I picked ryu too and spammed him back until he got sick of losing and kicked me

The next kid kept picking bison so I would counter everything he did with cammy and then he gave up and went to, ready for it...Ryu..lol...I got kicked by that kid too

Furashu
02-26-2009, 06:01 PM
I finally beat the survival mode last night on normal and the first round on hard. so I am all proud of my little trophy for that.

now tonights 3 tasks.


-get up to 200 matches online
-finish the last 7 rounds on time challenege normal
-unlock all colors and personal actions

sorry about last night man!
my internet was wacked out. i dropped playing with esper15 too.
i had to reset my internet. ill play u again tonight! :)

Lost_In_Shadows
02-26-2009, 06:05 PM
Erase your install and patch and go from there. I noticed the game was hard as shit on easiest, but then when I did that, the game became so much easier. The patch messed something so easiest will be like medium/hard for Seth.

I honestly don't think it was hard at all on easy. Seth was just annoying sometimes it seems. You should try it on the hardest diff, and you will be like omg Seth really is annoying. ;)

DarkKenpachi
02-26-2009, 06:15 PM
DarkKenpachi, what kind of controller do you use? I tried to join up with your invite but was stuck on my 4/5 cammy training challenge. Sticking to quatercircle characters until i get my joystick & trying to get timing and anti-air down.

I use the plain old ds3. though I would be better if I had a stick. I can pull normal moves off 95 percent of the time, supers and ultras 90 percent of the time depending on who it is and 60 percent of the time with zangief.

The really need to a provide an update that allows locking of characters. I'm sick of playing against Ken/Akuma/Sagat online and people just spamming fireballs. Once most of them realize I can avoid them (using Blanka) and I'll just wait the time out (with more health then them), they just disconnect.

Also, people that play 1 Round are stupid, as are people who don't install, as are people that wait until the last second to choose (AKA Ken/Akuma/Sagat). At least I highlight who I'll be.

Oh, and please add me. I need to play against some CAGers instead of random losers online.

PSN: AndySun124

I will add you later tonight, 1 round matches are the key to getting an easy ranked 10 win streak. lol also the key to getting that one time medal that mostly everyone is missing.

Damn, I suck at this game. I can't even make it through Arcade Mode on easy and it's getting really frustrating. I've only played Street Fighter maybe once or twice before this game, so I can't wrap my head around the move sets and timing and all that jazz. Playing with Ryu and all I can do consistently is his fireball and spinning kick across the screen. Will this be something I get noticeably better at from just playing or am I going to have to put it more time to actually learn the little things separately? I'm even stuck on the normal challenge mode with his move sets.

though I may sound harsh my advice is to keep playing. let frustration set in and keep playing. trust me you will get better. that is why bison on the hardest levels of the other games is so predicatable and easy to beat.


I got kicked twice in a row earlier by frustrated spammers.
One kid kept picking Blanka and trying to spam me with his electricity and so I kept picking Abel and everytime i saw him punch a couple times wildly I knew he was tapping Punch and so i would run up and throw him around.
If he did manage to get electricity going I would focus attack and super him.

Once he realized he couldn't do this anymore and had to pick someone new guess where he went:Ryu..lol
So I picked ryu too and spammed him back until he got sick of losing and kicked me

The next kid kept picking bison so I would counter everything he did with cammy and then he gave up and went to, ready for it...Ryu..lol...I got kicked by that kid too

its ok don't worry they got credited with a loss.

sorry about last night man!
my internet was wacked out. i dropped playing with esper15 too.
i had to reset my internet. ill play u again tonight! :)

its cool man thats how da interwebs go. hit me up later tonight.

Bretts31344
02-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Damn, I suck at this game. I can't even make it through Arcade Mode on easy and it's getting really frustrating. I've only played Street Fighter maybe once or twice before this game, so I can't wrap my head around the move sets and timing and all that jazz. Playing with Ryu and all I can do consistently is his fireball and spinning kick across the screen. Will this be something I get noticeably better at from just playing or am I going to have to put it more time to actually learn the little things separately? I'm even stuck on the normal challenge mode with his move sets.

I was about the same until I picked up HD Remix. Just keep playing, keep reading guides online, and keep practicing. If you aren't having fun/learning something when you lose, you probably won't like this game.

Erase your install and patch and go from there. I noticed the game was hard as shit on easiest, but then when I did that, the game became so much easier. The patch messed something so easiest will be like medium/hard for Seth.

No, that isn't the problem. I saw on other forums and experienced that myself. The cause is when you play online first , then go to single, it will glitch Seth to Meduim/Hard on any setting. There might be more than one cause for the glitch, but this makes more sense to me since I experienced it firsthand.

So is Sagat considered cheap/a new player's main? I just picked him because of his looks and moves. I guess I need to pick someone else... I love him so much though.

Pootie Thang
02-26-2009, 08:47 PM
I just played against Kenpachiexodia...

I destroyed him one round and I just thought he let me win... instead his kids hit the PS button

jterp7
02-26-2009, 09:51 PM
lol in my first game online a guy named dino*** disconnected after one round (hope he isn't on here..). Almost reminded me of the SC days where people disconnected partway through ladder matches. So far two ryus in a row.

ohvermie
02-26-2009, 10:38 PM
So is Sagat considered cheap/a new player's main? I just picked him because of his looks and moves. I guess I need to pick someone else... I love him so much though.
Play who you like. If you like Sagat, roll with it. It's not a popularity contest, and while he is high tier, he's not completely unstoppable. Most of the cheap tactics (Tiger shot spam) are punishable anyway.

Nibi
02-26-2009, 11:11 PM
That is the longest I've played the game at once. My total time now is 13:55. I think Street Fighter 4 is my favorite game now. After about 30 matches I wondered to myself I wonder how much longer is he going to play. xD Yeah it was fun. We should do that again sometime. ^_^

I was thinking the same thing, but I felt I just had to get to fifty. It was also a great way to break in my Madcatz fight pad. I think it worked pretty great, but even with the ergonomic grip my hands were getting worked towards the end.

slam09
02-26-2009, 11:29 PM
I'm really starting to like El Feurte and Dhalsim. I totally suck with Dhalsim but I'm having fun when I play him and that's what matters.

cdietschrun
02-27-2009, 01:54 AM
So can anyone point me at some sites / resources where I can learn to play better? i.e. learn how to do better with combos and how to do the challenges and what not? There's usually resource portals for fighting games right?

distgfx
02-27-2009, 02:01 AM
So can anyone point me at some sites / resources where I can learn to play better? i.e. learn how to do better with combos and how to do the challenges and what not? There's usually resource portals for fighting games right?

This may help, but it doesn't have all the characters, just the playable arcade characters:

http://www.iplaywinner.com/

EDIT: Here's another with all the characters:

http://mycheats.1up.com/view/superguide/3163882/street_fighter_4/ps3

SteveMcQ
02-27-2009, 02:12 AM
I was watching the 1Up video with the four guys playing SFIV (360). Theirs had the option to change each individual character's voice to either English or Japanese. The menu comes up when you select "Battle Voice" to either ENG, JPN, or BY CHARACTER. I don't see this in the PS3 version though, only the global option of English or Japanese. Is this exclusive to the 360 version or were they playing a non-retail build?

distgfx
02-27-2009, 02:18 AM
I was watching the 1Up video with the four guys playing SFIV (360). Theirs had the option to change each individual character's voice to either English or Japanese. The menu comes up when you select "Battle Voice" to either ENG, JPN, or BY CHARACTER. I don't see this in the PS3 version though, only the global option of English or Japanese. Is this exclusive to the 360 version or were they playing a non-retail build?

It's unlocked after you beat the game once.

Esper
02-27-2009, 02:18 AM
It was great playing with you dmunkee, good games!:)

dmunkee
02-27-2009, 02:31 AM
Definitely Esper, we had some good, close games! Well, except when your Balrog devoured my El Fuerte in that one match :lol:

mikeja72
02-27-2009, 08:50 AM
Im going to buy a sega usb controller over the madcatz one. Can anyone recommend someone to buy these off ebay from that they have had success with in the past? Thanks in advance.

mikeja72
02-27-2009, 08:53 AM
Oh and Ive seen dark gray ones for $45, black ones and light gray w/multi-colored buttons for around $30. Are the dark gray ones made better? Or is it an aesthetic preference people have?

nbballard
02-27-2009, 10:06 AM
i read online that the Saturn USB controllers all control the same, regardless of color. One thing to consider is that they were produced in Japan with the japanese components- not the same used in America. That means the control will feel a little different than you remember.

Probably won't be a deal breaker for anyone though.

mikeja72
02-27-2009, 10:21 AM
Great, thanks. Now I just need a reputable ebay vendor for a black one and I'm all set.

Bluesilo
02-27-2009, 10:53 AM
i'm looking for some fellow CAGs to play tonight. PM me if your interested. I've started to main Balrog, but I play Chun, Abel, and Shotos resonably well also.

DarkKenpachi
02-27-2009, 11:28 AM
I just played against Kenpachiexodia...

I destroyed him one round and I just thought he let me win... instead his kids hit the PS button

that was funny last night. my wife came running to the living room to hear me screaming as I was trying to trap my twins in the corner as they both had a controller. lol. Great games after that though. your good hit me up anytime you want a match.

So can anyone point me at some sites / resources where I can learn to play better? i.e. learn how to do better with combos and how to do the challenges and what not? There's usually resource portals for fighting games right?

in addition to any sites people pointed out to you, I suggest you do 3 things:

1. play with EVERYBODY. this allows you to first hand experience their weaknesses
2. even though the harder levels may frustrate you, just up the ante if your just trying otu a new character
3. fight basically until you learn to be flashy. (even though a 10 hit dragonpunch combo is great, unless you can consistently do it don't waste a hit opportunity. just throw them or use a plain dragon punch)


bonus note: when in doubt google Daigo videos. lol

HowStern
02-27-2009, 11:42 AM
Are the endings different depending on what difficulty you beat it on?

jterp7
02-27-2009, 11:52 AM
as with all other competitive games, experience is your best teacher, i.e. getting owned a few times. Initially I was jump happy, but when I calmed down a little bit I found that patience and a bit of persistence can help you win some battles. Coming back to win with 1mm of health is ever so satisfying, especially without using a super lol.

In other news my wife owned me a good 50% of the time, even though she doesn't normally play these games -_-, especially with vega though lol.

DarkKenpachi
02-27-2009, 12:16 PM
Are the endings different depending on what difficulty you beat it on?

nope.

as with all other competitive games, experience is your best teacher, i.e. getting owned a few times. Initially I was jump happy, but when I calmed down a little bit I found that patience and a bit of persistence can help you win some battles. Coming back to win with 1mm of health is ever so satisfying, especially without using a super lol.

In other news my wife owned me a good 50% of the time, even though she doesn't normally play these games -_-, especially with vega though lol.

so true. so true

Bluesilo
02-27-2009, 12:34 PM
DarkKenpachi, you going to be on PSN tonight? I'm looking to play some talent. Let me know.

DarkKenpachi
02-27-2009, 01:00 PM
I will be on tonight definately add me.
kenpachiexodia.

not sure if I can be called talent these days because I haven't really picked my main character yet. I have a whole lot of faves though. lol

ohvermie
02-27-2009, 02:39 PM
I am having the damnedest time breaking 2K BP. I just leave it on arcade mode with match accept on, and I get matched up with people that have no BP (so I get like 6 for the win) or just totally get outclassed by guys that have like 3K+.

Also, is there anything out there that lists the conditions you need to unlock certain icons? I haven't unlocked one in forever (cowboy chicken was probably the last one I got).

EDIT: Nevermind, just had to go to Gamefaqs. Guess time trials and survival mode hard is where it's at. For some reason I thought the icons were related to online play.

GenDV138
02-27-2009, 03:18 PM
I finished the Normal Trial challenges last night, some of those were a pain! Probably will take a break from the Hard Trials and focus on getting better online. I think I'm going to end up with Cammy as my main, seems the most natural for me to play. Might have Rose as my backup/secondary once I get more familiar with her.

If anyone wants to get a few games in tonight, I'll be on after midnight EST. I usually mix it up with different characters when I play with CAGs and friends. I might be on Killzone 2 single player, but just send me an invite and I'll hop onto SF IV.

ohvermie
02-27-2009, 03:45 PM
I will probably hit you up later tonight. Buns out. :)

DarkKenpachi
02-27-2009, 04:13 PM
I am having the damnedest time breaking 2K BP. I just leave it on arcade mode with match accept on, and I get matched up with people that have no BP (so I get like 6 for the win) or just totally get outclassed by guys that have like 3K+.

Also, is there anything out there that lists the conditions you need to unlock certain icons? I haven't unlocked one in forever (cowboy chicken was probably the last one I got).

EDIT: Nevermind, just had to go to Gamefaqs. Guess time trials and survival mode hard is where it's at. For some reason I thought the icons were related to online play.

I can;t vouch for those guides on gamefaqs yet because I unlocked all personal actions and colors by just beating the time challenge and survival on normal. but according to them it is different. but it would seem that beating all modes on hard should give more icons because I am missing over 90 percent of them while I am at about 50 something for titles.

I finished the Normal Trial challenges last night, some of those were a pain! Probably will take a break from the Hard Trials and focus on getting better online. I think I'm going to end up with Cammy as my main, seems the most natural for me to play. Might have Rose as my backup/secondary once I get more familiar with her.

If anyone wants to get a few games in tonight, I'll be on after midnight EST. I usually mix it up with different characters when I play with CAGs and friends. I might be on Killzone 2 single player, but just send me an invite and I'll hop onto SF IV.

I will add you tonight. congrats on finishing the time trial challenege. I finished it last night also and I got a bronze with having over 150 seconds remaining. I was thinking what do you have to do to get a gold?

fatez
02-27-2009, 04:15 PM
they should of made the install for this game mandatory... it makes no sense to play with the bad load time off the disc.

ohvermie
02-27-2009, 05:12 PM
they should of made the install for this game mandatory... it makes no sense to play with the bad load time off the disc.
The crap part is playing online with people that don't have it installed.

What's the point of installing it if I have to wait anyway?!?

They should just let the match start while the other guy is still loading. That'll make people install it real fast. :evil:

GenDV138
02-27-2009, 05:49 PM
I will probably hit you up later tonight. Buns out. :)

Haha, sounds good!

I will add you tonight. congrats on finishing the time trial challenege. I finished it last night also and I got a bronze with having over 150 seconds remaining. I was thinking what do you have to do to get a gold?

Sounds good, I meant the combo/move trials for each character, haven't finished the time trials yet. I think I've done a few of the time trials but still have 15 or so left.

DarkKenpachi
02-27-2009, 06:59 PM
even better GenDV138 the time trials and survival trials are silly but necessary to unlock everything :(

I stopped at Chun li's 3rd or 4th trial when you have to do the target air combo into 3 air heels. I was ok this is silly and never played it again. lol

though doing the trials for ken really can help a lot of people with the combo master.

Esper
02-27-2009, 10:10 PM
cool, i got my 100th win online and received some goodies (gold trophy - 'ten years to late', title [Well Known Fighter], icon [bouquet of flowers], and a Home Reward (Akuma's "Ten" T-shirt). Awesome. :) Who else here earned this award?

GenDV138
02-27-2009, 10:13 PM
even better GenDV138 the time trials and survival trials are silly but necessary to unlock everything :(

I stopped at Chun li's 3rd or 4th trial when you have to do the target air combo into 3 air heels. I was ok this is silly and never played it again. lol

though doing the trials for ken really can help a lot of people with the combo master.

Haha yeah, if you didn't like that trial with Chun Li's 3 air heels, you'll probably hate the one with Gen where you have to juggle his Gekiro in the air around 8 times in a row with perfect timing.

The trials are definitely a lot easier if you have a stick, don't think I would have been able to get through them all with a controller.

diddy310
02-27-2009, 11:09 PM
Any idea how to actually do Ryu's Jump HP, HK, Shinku Hadoken combo in the trials? I can't get the fireball to work without it being blocked.

JEKKI
02-27-2009, 11:15 PM
jump in deep to do a close HK. only the close HK can be canceled, and it has to be cancelled on the first hit.

you will have to finish the motion for the shinku hadoken fast enough before the second hit of the close standing HK connects.

btw, I'm assuming this. I havent even done the trial myself, I jus kno how to play Ryu lol

GenDV138
02-28-2009, 02:45 AM
Good games, Kenpachi! Lost quite a few rounds, but definitely learned from some of my mistakes. Still fun though and we had some pretty close matches. Cammy's definitely my best character it seems like.

I'll probably be on again tomorrow after midnight EST if you or anyone else wants to get some games in.

ZerotypeX
02-28-2009, 02:47 AM
multi day tournament brackets are up

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215513

DarkKenpachi
02-28-2009, 01:32 PM
Good games, Kenpachi! Lost quite a few rounds, but definitely learned from some of my mistakes. Still fun though and we had some pretty close matches. Cammy's definitely my best character it seems like.

I'll probably be on again tomorrow after midnight EST if you or anyone else wants to get some games in.


good games man. you have amazing timing with your cammy. thats all I could say every match we played. you inspired me to wanna play as cammy more.

multi day tournament brackets are up

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215513


sorry I gotta drop out of this one also. family stuff. if anyone wants to play later tonight after midnight hit me up then

HowStern
02-28-2009, 01:36 PM
Haha yeah, if you didn't like that trial with Chun Li's 3 air heels, you'll probably hate the one with Gen where you have to juggle his Gekiro in the air around 8 times in a row with perfect timing.

The trials are definitely a lot easier if you have a stick, don't think I would have been able to get through them all with a controller.

bah I just finished that one. The gekiro..took me like half an hour. Then in the next trial you have to do it again but as a part of a combo but it seemed easier doing it as EX gekiro. I got that one done like the second try.

Hey darkkenpachi I'm usually on really late EST like 11-midnight or later add me up :)

Ecofreak
02-28-2009, 08:00 PM
Unfortunately, I'll be out of town this week and won't be able to participate.

CAG 79
03-01-2009, 03:10 PM
I finally unlocked all characters last night.

nbballard
03-01-2009, 07:04 PM
Update on the RetroUSB.com saturn adaptors: Shit don't work!

The buttons don't map right on the PS3 and doesn't work at all on the PS2 (as expected). Works alright for PC use.

The Saturn USB control, or the 3in1 Joybox seem like the best bet at this point.

Lost_In_Shadows
03-01-2009, 07:28 PM
I finally unlocked all characters last night.

I can see that. It takes a while to get them all. I honestly don't think Seth was worth it.

Oktoberfest
03-01-2009, 07:30 PM
I can see that. It takes a while to get them all. I honestly don't think Seth was worth it.
it's not like it was hard to romp through arcade with each character on easiest mode and 1 round per fight anyway :D

HowStern
03-01-2009, 07:35 PM
I still havent unlocked a couple people. I'm in no rush though because I still haven't even played as everyone it came with.
Don't know who I'd like to main yet but I win a lot with cammy.
I like to use blanka against ryu spammers and Rose against ken spammers though.

SteveMcQ
03-01-2009, 07:50 PM
it's not like it was hard to romp through arcade with each character on easiest mode and 1 round per fight anyway :DI beg to differ. :joystick: I've still yet to unlock a single extra character. Five times through the Arcade mode on easy and only once have I made it to Seth.

Oktoberfest
03-01-2009, 07:55 PM
I beg to differ. :joystick: I've still yet to unlock a single extra character. Five times through the Arcade mode on easy and only once have I made it to Seth.

haha I didn't realize it at first, but there are two modes that are easier than Easy (Very Easy and Easiest)

dragonjud
03-01-2009, 08:01 PM
haha I didn't realize it at first, but there are two modes that are easier than Easy (Very Easy and Easiest)

Ditto. Even on the 'Easy' setting Seth, and others can be a real royal pain. Specially Seth 'the spammer', and cheating bastard.

HowStern
03-01-2009, 08:19 PM
^yeah the highest dificulty I've beaten seth on was medium
I didn't even know there was a very easy and easiest til a couple days ago.
I guess all I have left to unlock is gouken, akuma, and seth. maybe i'll do akuma tonight. throw it on easiest to make sure I get the perfects.

SteveMcQ
03-01-2009, 09:16 PM
haha I didn't realize it at first, but there are two modes that are easier than Easy (Very Easy and Easiest)Thought to fire up SFIV before checking into this thread and I, too, realized there was a Very Easy mode. Finally got through a character. Four times to beat Seth though. I still don't feel too good about my skills.

Kyo
03-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Since I'm having a heck of a time trying to find a damn Fightpad for the PS3, I'm planning on buying the USB PC/PS3 Sega Saturn Pad off of ebay.

Has anyone tried this out? Is it responsive as the fightpad?

distgfx
03-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Since I'm having a heck of a time trying to find a damn Fightpad for the PS3, I'm planning on buying the USB PC/PS3 Sega Saturn Pad off of ebay.

Has anyone tried this out? Is it responsive as the fightpad?

A lot of people claim it's better than the FightPad, I bought one myself recently. The thing still hasn't arrived yet though.

Furashu
03-01-2009, 11:41 PM
anyone wanna play?
i use blanka and boxer

snd a FR on PSN :)

distgfx
03-02-2009, 12:09 AM
If you wanna throw down then go ahead and add me, lemme know if you're still interested.

Furashu
03-02-2009, 12:26 AM
will send FR distgfx

Furashu
03-02-2009, 01:19 AM
ggs dude!

distgfx
03-02-2009, 01:58 AM
ggs dude!

Totally, thanks to you I think I figured out my main!

GGs!

ohvermie
03-02-2009, 10:44 AM
Heh, glad that I'm not the only one that didn't realize there were easier modes than easy. :P

Yesterday afternoon was just bad news bears for me. Playing ranked, just wasn't feeling my mojo and was trying to take my Guile out on the road for the first time. Lost about 500+ BP against a bunch of scrub Kens/Ryus because I simply wasn't patient enough with them. Is it just me or does their jump in roundhouse have super high priority over everything if it's pretty deep (that's what she said)? I tried to stop it with flash kicks, by jumping at them and trying to air throw/kick, dashing backwards, nothing...just got taken to school.

I've been screwing around with El Fuerte with some friends. He's a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll ever do any good with him against characters that have projectiles.

Pck21
03-02-2009, 11:31 AM
Well I have neglected SF IV for a few days since Killzone 2 came out but I'll get back into it soon. I know MSUHitman sent me a PM asking to play last night and I was literally finishing up a match in KZ2 and then going to bed. :( Hey MSUHitman, we'll definitely hit up some SF IV tonight if you're down!

DarkKenpachi
03-02-2009, 11:52 AM
@jekki your ryu destroys mine. I gotta learn to be more consistent with my pokes and super moves. thanks for the good games. and I know I frustrate you with my e. honda. lol

@ohvermie ggs last night man. your guile is good and honestly your the only person who I have played who uses him in 4 so far.

playing you both last night made me realize how much I need to relearn my fighting style again.

ohvermie
03-02-2009, 12:27 PM
@jekki your ryu destroys mine. I gotta learn to be more consistent with my pokes and super moves. thanks for the good games. and I know I frustrate you with my e. honda. lol

@ohvermie ggs last night man. your guile is good and honestly your the only person who I have played who uses him in 4 so far.

playing you both last night made me realize how much I need to relearn my fighting style again.
Just wondering, were you letting someone else play sometimes because when you were using Akuma, some rounds were like completely different play styles. I know sometimes I just get into this offensive mindset and just fall victim to all sorts of crap, so maybe that's what it was. I wish I could develop like two sets of strategy where it feels like someone else is playing. THE MINDGAMES!!! :)

GodlyOne
03-02-2009, 12:40 PM
Spend about 2 hours finishing the Survival and Time Trials, the ones where you can't use a special move is funny in that it teaches you that you're useless without special moves :lol:.

Now onto the hard Survival and Time trials...

ohvermie
03-02-2009, 12:44 PM
The ones that don't let you block are funny...like how the holocaust was funny...

slam09
03-02-2009, 01:42 PM
Heh, glad that I'm not the only one that didn't realize there were easier modes than easy. :P

Yesterday afternoon was just bad news bears for me. Playing ranked, just wasn't feeling my mojo and was trying to take my Guile out on the road for the first time. Lost about 500+ BP against a bunch of scrub Kens/Ryus because I simply wasn't patient enough with them. Is it just me or does their jump in roundhouse have super high priority over everything if it's pretty deep (that's what she said)? I tried to stop it with flash kicks, by jumping at them and trying to air throw/kick, dashing backwards, nothing...just got taken to school.

I've been screwing around with El Fuerte with some friends. He's a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll ever do any good with him against characters that have projectiles.I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with projectiles with Fuerte too. Only thing I've noticed so far is that EX Habanero Dash will go through them and its super fast for a counter but you need that 1 bar to do it. Can't always do it.

kapkorn
03-02-2009, 03:01 PM
Is it just me or does everyone pick Akuma? I played for about an hour yesterday online and at least 75% of the people picked him.

ohvermie
03-02-2009, 03:26 PM
I've been seeing a rash of Akuma's lately. The occasional Gouken, who once the super or ultra meter is maxed will lunge at you to try to grab you. But still mostly Ken.

It's a little different in player matches. I love playing me some C Viper even though I am absolutely horrendous with her.

I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with projectiles with Fuerte too. Only thing I've noticed so far is that EX Habanero Dash will go through them and its super fast for a counter but you need that 1 bar to do it. Can't always do it.
Does the EX Dash go through fireballs? I keep on getting stopped by them during EX Dash. Maybe they were EX fireballs.

Arakias
03-02-2009, 03:33 PM
AHHH! I'm a total newb myself but I dont play Ken/Ryu/Ken whatever. I just had to drop out of game or two because a person picked Ken and I'm fed up (I'm only 12 online fights in!). The last guy must have thought he was all sneaky sitting on E Honda, then after I picked went to Ken (sorta thought he might) so I quit game.

My question - What happens to the player left in the game when the other drops? Either in Character selection or during the match (if there is a difference). I hope its not default win.

JEKKI
03-02-2009, 04:12 PM
if the game disconnects it still counts towards your match count.

so let's say you play 10 games, you win 8 of them, lose 1, and get disconnected in 1,

then your win ratio is 8/10, but you did not lose/gain any BP from the disconnected match

kapkorn
03-02-2009, 05:12 PM
What is the problem with Ken? He's a standard character.

DarkKenpachi
03-02-2009, 05:41 PM
Just wondering, were you letting someone else play sometimes because when you were using Akuma, some rounds were like completely different play styles. I know sometimes I just get into this offensive mindset and just fall victim to all sorts of crap, so maybe that's what it was. I wish I could develop like two sets of strategy where it feels like someone else is playing. THE MINDGAMES!!! :)

I limit myself on using akuma because I tend to play very cheap with him. I become a combo monster. but I also get very sloppy with him.

Spend about 2 hours finishing the Survival and Time Trials, the ones where you can't use a special move is funny in that it teaches you that you're useless without special moves :lol:.

Now onto the hard Survival and Time trials...

I just beat the hard survival trials today and it unlocks a whole bunch of icons,5 titles, and of course the trophy. they all require at least 10 wins to progress but on the 5th level after fight 35 it does get kind of boring and you have no will to fight knowing that you already finished the challenge.

so as far as challenges go I got hard time challenge, normal moves, and hard moves to beat.

that makes 10 trophies left and I am determined to get every trophy in this one.


do you get any icons for beating the move specific portion of the game?

GodlyOne
03-02-2009, 06:05 PM
I just beat the hard survival trials today and it unlocks a whole bunch of icons,5 titles, and of course the trophy. they all require at least 10 wins to progress but on the 5th level after fight 35 it does get kind of boring and you have no will to fight knowing that you already finished the challenge.

so as far as challenges go I got hard time challenge, normal moves, and hard moves to beat.

that makes 10 trophies left and I am determined to get every trophy in this one.


do you get any icons for beating the move specific portion of the game?

Shiet.... and I thought 25 fights in a row was grating....

For each character you complete move challenges with, you unlock 3 icons (along with the titles and artwork). One's a box version of their head, the other is a cartoony version I think, and I don't know what the last one is.

slam09
03-02-2009, 06:24 PM
I've been seeing a rash of Akuma's lately. The occasional Gouken, who once the super or ultra meter is maxed will lunge at you to try to grab you. But still mostly Ken.

It's a little different in player matches. I love playing me some C Viper even though I am absolutely horrendous with her.


Does the EX Dash go through fireballs? I keep on getting stopped by them during EX Dash. Maybe they were EX fireballs.
What I meant was that it'll absorb them. Only regular fireballs though since EX or Akuma's big fireball will hit multiple times.

Bretts31344
03-02-2009, 10:28 PM
Ok, this might be a super stupid question. How can you avoid getting destroyed by Akuma's normal fireballs, and then you block that they just jump away and fire an air fireball. I either block them infinitely or jump and get hit.

JEKKI
03-02-2009, 10:41 PM
Ok, this might be a super stupid question. How can you avoid getting destroyed by Akuma's normal fireballs, and then you block that they just jump away and fire an air fireball. I either block them infinitely or jump and get hit.depends who you are using??

also I'd like to say, Akuma's fireballs do less damage on hit then regular fireballs do on block lol.

not really tho, but Akuma gots sum weak ass balls, except for the fire one.

slam09
03-02-2009, 10:58 PM
Ok, this might be a super stupid question. How can you avoid getting destroyed by Akuma's normal fireballs, and then you block that they just jump away and fire an air fireball. I either block them infinitely or jump and get hit.
Depending on the situation and character you're using. Usually jumping in can be punished if you're not careful. Other options include EX version of your own attacks that move you forward. It'll absorb one attack and might catch them off guard. And in the same vein you can focus attack and cancel into a dash after letting them hit you.

Bretts31344
03-02-2009, 11:44 PM
Thanks. I need to practice FADC. That will probably do that trick. I use Sagat, so normally I try throw a tiger shot back.

Furashu
03-03-2009, 12:27 AM
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Furashu
03-03-2009, 01:35 AM
Oh yeah look we got some prizes already

4 volumes of this SF Manga

http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fighter-Bonus-Stage-v/dp/1897376006/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

metaly
03-03-2009, 02:24 AM
Can I take my save from this and use it on a friend's PS3?

GodlyOne
03-03-2009, 02:41 AM
Can I take my save from this and use it on a friend's PS3?

You'll get a lot of "you did not earn a trophy" messages but it should work.

distgfx
03-03-2009, 02:43 AM
Can I take my save from this and use it on a friend's PS3?

You cannot, the save can't be copied.

GodlyOne
03-03-2009, 02:51 AM
You cannot, the save can't be copied.

Oh shits, I forgot about it saying Copying Prohibited.

metaly
03-03-2009, 03:03 AM
Well I guess I'll just shoot myself in the face.

Thanks for the quick replies.

GodlyOne
03-03-2009, 06:08 AM
*phew* Just finished both Hard Survival and Time Trials. Good luck to those who haven't yet played level 5 in the Hard Time Trial.

Now I gotta get back to online matches again.

jterp7
03-03-2009, 10:50 AM
I discovered yesterday that fei long is capable of taking down sagat spammers. I also did it rock lee style, more surprisingly.

ohvermie
03-03-2009, 11:13 AM
That last survival mode normal challenge is beating my ass. Any tips on how to take down Cammy with Blanka? I always get up to her with 100% health and then just get whooped or if I beat her I have barely anything left. D: I wouldn't mind so much if I didn't have to go through 10 matches just to get my ass handed to me by her.

DarkKenpachi
03-03-2009, 11:42 AM
*phew* Just finished both Hard Survival and Time Trials. Good luck to those who haven't yet played level 5 in the Hard Time Trial.

Now I gotta get back to online matches again.

now I gotta catch back up to you on 3 trophies.

-hard time trials
-beat gouken on hardest
-365 finishes

I got my work cut out for me. tv is the best these days though. thank you Vh-1 and these horribly addictive shows. lol

GodlyOne
03-03-2009, 01:08 PM
now I gotta catch back up to you on 3 trophies.

-hard time trials
-beat gouken on hardest
-365 finishes

I got my work cut out for me. tv is the best these days though. thank you Vh-1 and these horribly addictive shows. lol

I just need the 100 wins online, 200 matches played, and 1000 medals collected and I'm all caught up to you. SO CLOSE! :lol:

DarkKenpachi
03-03-2009, 04:04 PM
I just need the 100 wins online, 200 matches played, and 1000 medals collected and I'm all caught up to you. SO CLOSE! :lol:

lol. this is a tight race. did you get all gold medals on your normal and hard time and survival trials? I have to redo 12 so far. and how far are you in on the normal and hard trials? I got like over a 150 to finish between both normal and hard.

I think the hardest trophy to get in this game is the Get all Gold medals on the challenges trophy just because of the will to not care about how you do on the time and survival trials once you fill the quota to get past them.

I am starting to feel like I owe Capcom money for this game now because of how much I enjoy it. lol

ohvermie
03-03-2009, 05:43 PM
I am starting to feel like I owe Capcom money for this game now because of how much I enjoy it. lol
Well that's why Capcom is charging us for costumes already on the disc. -_-

bigl523
03-03-2009, 05:47 PM
My landlord is giving me $50 to shovel the driveway while he's away so I'll have some extra cash to drop on a stick. Is the fight stick worth it? If so, where the hell can I find one?

DarkKenpachi
03-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Well that's why Capcom is charging us for costumes already on the disc. -_-

so true. but yet I feel like I owe them more. besides I am going to resist temptation and wait until the last 4 packs are out and on discount before a snag the rest. lol. (they are going down in april right?)

Honestly though I am glad that RE5 is coming out next week so I can get away form this game for a while.

tonight I am set on getting at least 1 more trophy. Either hardest against gouken or hard time trials.

GodlyOne
03-03-2009, 08:32 PM
lol. this is a tight race. did you get all gold medals on your normal and hard time and survival trials? I have to redo 12 so far. and how far are you in on the normal and hard trials? I got like over a 150 to finish between both normal and hard.

I think the hardest trophy to get in this game is the Get all Gold medals on the challenges trophy just because of the will to not care about how you do on the time and survival trials once you fill the quota to get past them.

I got mostly gold in the Survival and Time Trials, I think I got around 4-5 silver/bronze medals, not sure if I want to go back and get gold on those. Survival is easy in getting gold medals but Time Trials are a bitch to get them in.

I'm not even trying to finish all of the character specific move challenges, they just get frustrating at a point in trying to figure out the exact timing of the combo.

HowStern
03-03-2009, 09:50 PM
^yeah I'm working on the move challenges. I'm stuck on like the 3rd hard challenge for almost everyone. I've had to remap my button config for most of 'em to accommodate for what was required to do.

I'm also using a DS3 though which is making it harder I think. But you get good titles from 'em.

slam09
03-03-2009, 10:01 PM
I love it! Fighting Ken scrubs and beating them with Dhalsim. What possesses them to EX Shoryuken from across the screen when I haven't even jumped all round. I've been maining Dhalsim for a couple days now. So much fun. Anyone else play Sim?

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:01 AM
It's pretty rewarding kicking the asses of people who corner you and spam the shit outta one move.

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:03 AM
lol @ tag "hadouken-fest 2009"

Even when Ken scrubs get desperate they'll stop using the shoryuken and use only the hadouken. When you corner them, they try to jump over you. Guile says "STAY DOWN!" then they Shoryuken and get hit again.

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:06 AM
lol @ tag "hadouken-fest 2009"

Even when Ken scrubs get desperate they'll stop using the shoryuken and use only the hadouken. When you corner them, they try to jump over you. Guile says "STAY DOWN!" then they Shoryuken and get hit again.

I, for some reason, decided to tag hadouken-fest into the thread

I usually see Ken players jump in, fierce kick, trip you, then shoryuken you when you get up. They rinse and repeat until you counter their cheap tactic.

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:15 AM
I, for some reason, decided to tag hadouken-fest into the thread

I usually see Ken players jump in, fierce kick, trip you, then shoryuken you when you get up. They rinse and repeat until you counter their cheap tactic.

Indeed. Kudos on the tag.

(Jump in HK) Normal block, (crouch HK) crouch block, (shoryuken) still crouch blocking then Hurricane Kick. Pisses them off to no end, I've had one disconnect on me before.

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:23 AM
Indeed. Kudos on the tag.

(Jump in HK) Normal block, (crouch HK) crouch block, (shoryuken) still blocking then Hurricane Kick. Pisses them off to no end, I've had one disconnect on me before.

I gotta try that tactic, I always just trip them before they trip me/jump away from it and then go in for the offensive when I see an opening or when they're coming down from the shoryuken.

The only spammers that annoyed the hell outta me were one Vega and one El Fuerte. The Vega player trapped me in the corner and did a crouching light (or medium) punch, it almost worked too until I finally was able to jump out. The El Fuerte spammed the Habanero Dash into a body splash over and over, everytime I got up he hit me with it again, I lost that match... :bomb:

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:28 AM
I gotta try that tactic, I always just trip them before they trip me/jump away from it and then go in for the offensive when I see an opening or when they're coming down from the shoryuken.

The only spammers that annoyed the hell outta me were one Vega and one El Fuerte. The Vega player trapped me in the corner and did a crouching light (or medium) punch, it almost worked too until I finally was able to jump out. The El Fuerte spammed the Habanero Dash into a body splash over and over, everytime I got up he hit me with it again, I lost that match... :bomb:

The only time I've ever lost to a Vega player is when it was a really, really good one. This guy was flying all over the place.

I had an El Fuerte kick my ass doing that before too. He was relentless, but I'm sure there's some way to get out of it, I just haven't figured it out.

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:32 AM
Yeah, got to figure out a strategy against those types of El Fuerte players. The problem is that he's so god damned fast, in the time you take 4 steps forwards he can pull off 3 Habanero Dashes into the splash in that time span.

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:35 AM
Yeah, got to figure out a strategy against those types of El Fuerte players. The problem is that he's so god damned fast, in the time you take 4 steps forwards he can pull off 3 Habanero Dashes into the splash in that time span.

... Hurricane Kick after you get up? :lol: Seems to work for everything else online, even other Hurricane Kicks. :rofl:

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:39 AM
... Hurricane Kick after you get up? :lol: Seems to work for everything else online, even other Hurricane Kicks. :rofl:

:lol: Either that or out-spam the bastard with Gief's double lariat, that shit seems to be invincible against almost every move.

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:40 AM
:lol: Either that or out-spam the bastard with Gief's double lariat, that shit seems to be invincible against almost every move.

Oooh, I forgot about that, even works against Viper's ground pound. I don't know the actual name for that move of her's. :lol:

slam09
03-04-2009, 12:43 AM
I gotta try that tactic, I always just trip them before they trip me/jump away from it and then go in for the offensive when I see an opening or when they're coming down from the shoryuken.

The only spammers that annoyed the hell outta me were one Vega and one El Fuerte. The Vega player trapped me in the corner and did a crouching light (or medium) punch, it almost worked too until I finally was able to jump out. The El Fuerte spammed the Habanero Dash into a body splash over and over, everytime I got up he hit me with it again, I lost that match... :bomb:It was probably a c.MP. c.MP is one of Vega's best moves. Huge reach and good damage. And pretty fast.

As for Fuerte. His body splash doesn't do armor breaking so a well timed focus should take him out of his rythm if he's body splashing alot. A good Fuerte should have a Quesidilla Bomb charged most of the time ready to go though. That does have armor breaking but needs to be pretty close. Also, Habenaro Dash Throw (HP) does not hit if you're crouching. Or at least it's never hit when I've done it. Habenaro Back Dash Thow (qcb+P, hp) does hit low though. Careful with the hurricane kicks. I've been able to Guacamole Throw and Habenaro Back Dash Thow them.

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 12:46 AM
It was probably a c.MP. c.MP is one of Vega's best moves. Huge reach and good damage. And pretty fast.

As for Fuerte. His body splash doesn't do armor breaking so a well timed focus should take him out of his rythm if he's body splashing alot. A good Fuerte should have aQuesidilla Bomb charged most of the time ready to go though. That does have armor breaking but needs to be pretty close. Also, Habenaro Dash Throw (HP) does not hit if you're crouching. Or at least it's never hit when I've done it. Habenaro Back Dash Thow (qcb+P, hp) does hit low though. Careful with the hurricane kicks. I've been able to Guacamole Throw and Habenaro Back Dash Thow them.

Sounds like some crazy-ass recipe :lol:.

Thanks for the tip, gotta keep that in mind the next time I run into an E.F. (too lazy to type his name over and over).

distgfx
03-04-2009, 12:57 AM
Careful with the hurricane kicks. I've been able to Guacamole Throw and Habenaro Back Dash Thow them.

Yea, I learned that the hard way with a good El Fuerte. :-#

ohvermie
03-04-2009, 01:29 AM
I hate how whenever I read people's posts about Fuerte I get SOOOOO hungry. :(

jterp7
03-04-2009, 01:35 AM
mmmm guacamole

jalopez86
03-04-2009, 03:24 AM
hey, i noticed an install option in the game. what's it for?

distgfx
03-04-2009, 03:29 AM
hey, i noticed an install option in the game. what's it for?

To install the game (not entirely) and drastically speed up loading times.

jalopez86
03-04-2009, 03:36 AM
To install the game (not entirely) and drastically speed up loading times.
yeah, i figured. the game used to hang in-between fights but once i installed the load times were so much faster. thanx.

RelentlessRolento
03-04-2009, 10:38 AM
hey, i noticed an install option in the game. what's it for?


I wish more people online would use this option.

DarkKenpachi
03-04-2009, 11:17 AM
arghhhh level 3 hard time trial is ridiculous. I am good all the way up to cammy. she turns into super duper cammy. not normal kill you cammy. I am talking about assassin cammy who gets stronger as the fight goes on and doesn't even follow any type of logical fight pattern to counter.

I will beat her tonight and finish out the hard time trials.

What I have left to do:
-beat gouken on hardest
-get redo 21 challenges to get gold
-140 move trials
-200 online matches
-3 hard time trails

I feel like I have turned this game into a job. lol

GodlyOne
03-04-2009, 11:40 AM
Cammy's the only fighter who has the ability to completely kick your ass in no time flat during the trials, she constantly throws out Cannon Drills and if you jump to avoid it, she'll hit you with a Cannon Spike. I had to be constantly crouching and blocking to be able to counter.

A little heads up, in the 5th Hard Time Trial, Akuma and Bison will wipe you out too. Enemies have higher attack damage and earn Ultras in about 2-3 hits (get hit by 2 Ultras and it will kill you), a good tip is to jump when ever you see their Ultra meter fill since most of the time they throw it out the second they get it. The 5th level was horribly frustrating cause if I didn't get beat up by Bison or Akuma, Seth would do the job. Got gold on it, will never play that level again.

Oh, and Kenpachi, you sure you won't go insane by the time you finish everyone's move trials? :lol:

ohvermie
03-04-2009, 12:56 PM
Seeing the way the AI plays Cammy in those trials is harsh. I'd hate to meet up with someone like that in a dark alley that's for sure. D:

DarkKenpachi
03-04-2009, 01:10 PM
I totally agree about cammy. she is the b**** in these challeneges. I feel like I am fighting a mind controlled super version of her only for the challenges. lol

she was very manageable until this particular trial. blanka was like that for me also until I kinda learned his pattern.

the move trials are ridiculously silly. whoever thought of these things needs companionship. lol I can undertstand the logic behind the first set of trials. but the hard ones are silly for no reason.

honestly I have more or less been using the basically same combos in street fighter since 2 and all the way up through mvc2 and alpha. not saying that I couldn't use diversity but really some of this stuff is just stupid. and as far as the more advance combos go. many are tooooo dependant of certain timing and positioning to consistenly pull off. like the holligan combo into super for cammy. I can pull it off but that juggle hit is completely impossible to get if your in the corner or close enough to it.

my suggestion for these challenges which would have been better would be to give the player certain quotas to fill to pass the level.

for example on level 1 hard it would be to pull an x amount of hits and do x amount of damage with a certain combo. this way it gives the player more freedom to create and find ways to pull off combos that are more consistent with their playing style.
Ex: when using Guile my combos focus more on using sonic booms, whereas your may focus more on getting off focus attacks into pulling off your super combo.

of course the guidelines would be different for each character but this would allow for a more open experience in my opinion.

quick question did you unlock the very last icon.

ohvermie
03-04-2009, 02:45 PM
It'd be great if the last icon came from buying all the alt costume DLC packs. I wouldn't put it past Capcom to do that.

distgfx
03-04-2009, 05:19 PM
I wish more people online would use this option.

I usually use the loading time to judge someone's skill. I haven't been wrong yet. :lol:

Buccho
03-04-2009, 11:54 PM
I picked up a pair of the Mad Catz Fightpads so that my brother and I could play together, but I can't seem to get them both working at the same time. Both controllers try to link up with the same wireless receiver, while the other receiver gets no signal. In fact, that receiver now gets no signal from either controller, even if it's the only one plugged in. Any ideas, anybody?

GodlyOne
03-05-2009, 12:00 AM
I usually use the loading time to judge someone's skill. I haven't been wrong yet. :lol:

It's usually like "Oh shit did my game freeze? Wait, never mind, this person hasn't installed it yet". Yeah, those matches are guaranteed wins.

Bretts31344
03-05-2009, 12:35 AM
It's usually like "Oh shit did my game freeze? Wait, never mind, this person hasn't installed it yet". Yeah, those matches are guaranteed wins.

Haha, I do that too. It is a better predicting factor than the rival choosing Ken.

I picked up a pair of the Mad Catz Fightpads so that my brother and I could play together, but I can't seem to get them both working at the same time. Both controllers try to link up with the same wireless receiver, while the other receiver gets no signal. In fact, that receiver now gets no signal from either controller, even if it's the only one plugged in. Any ideas, anybody?

I have read that problem on multiple forums. Unfortunately, everyone says it is impossible to connect two controllers to one console, which is ridiculous. Most people want to do that to begin with. I hope you find a solution to connect them both.

distgfx
03-05-2009, 12:51 AM
It's usually like "Oh shit did my game freeze? Wait, never mind, this person hasn't installed it yet". Yeah, those matches are guaranteed wins.

That's what I thought when it first happened to me too. Anytime I see it load quickly, I know I'm in for one hell of a match.

anathema728
03-05-2009, 01:39 AM
That's what I thought when it first happened to me too. Anytime I see it load quickly, I know I'm in for one hell of a match.

then you guys haven't played against my noobsim

need the delayed patch (allows more slots in lobbies) to come out so there can be an sf4 cag night

DarkKenpachi
03-05-2009, 04:35 AM
finally finished the hard time trials and beat the game on hardest against gouken.

now I am only 1 trophy away from catching up to you godlyone. getting the title and icon trophies seem ridiculous. but anyway to get them this what I got left to do.

-redo 20 time and survival challenges to get gold medals
-35 normal move trials
-120 hard move trials
-around 200 more online matches
-and what ever is necessary for me to unlock that 365 finishes trophy.

for the normal move challenges trial 1 and 5 are the easiest it is just gettting past 3 and 4 that make it hard. those youtube videos help greatly. lol

anyway whatever I get done by the time RE5 comes out then thats what I will roll with.

Furashu
03-05-2009, 06:37 AM
if u guys havent already please sign up for the CAG SF4 Monthly Tournament!
We already have a few prizes a couple of CAGS have donated.

that includes a set of 4 SF Mangas, a Hadouken Input T-Shirt, a SF Patch,
possibly SF 20th Anny Figures, SF LE Blu-ray, SF LE Ryu Figure

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216447

Gamehead
03-06-2009, 02:03 AM
Ranked matches are pissing me off so much. It is terrible getting matched up with people that have so little BP. It's lose lose. You win and get 10 points. You lose and lose 100. The matches are a waste of time. I wish I could tell what level person I am playing. Letting it be a mystery just sucks.

distgfx
03-06-2009, 02:16 AM
Ranked matches are pissing me off so much. It is terrible getting matched up with people that have so little BP. It's lose lose. You win and get 10 points. You lose and lose 100. The matches are a waste of time. I wish I could tell what level person I am playing. Letting it be a mystery just sucks.

That's probably why they want it to be a mystery.

Gamehead
03-06-2009, 02:23 AM
That's probably why they want it to be a mystery.

It won't stay a mystery for me much longer because I won't bother playing ranked matches anymore. There just isn't a big enough incentive for me to play as it is. Can't wait for the patch.

And I played my first Seth user. I have no idea what he was thinking.

blueweltall
03-06-2009, 05:42 AM
I'm doing the trial for Sagat, how the hell do you throw a fake kick?

RelentlessRolento
03-06-2009, 06:47 AM
I'm doing the trial for Sagat, how the hell do you throw a fake kick?


just started this as well and it makes no sense...

EDIT: looks like it is doable but you have to change the button off a trigger and onto a face button... or do it on a stick since it seems to need to be in a few frames of the animation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grIm0E62qLA

SmallWind
03-06-2009, 07:09 AM
Jump towards Dan then before landing mash out Roundhouse/HK.


EDIT: looks like it is doable but you have to change the button off a trigger and onto a face button... or do it on a stick since it seems to need to be in a few frames of the animation...
or a stick/controller with a turbo function. :)

GodlyOne
03-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Every match I get into the other person always-always starts it off with a jump into a roundhouse kick and they always miss.

HowStern
03-06-2009, 12:36 PM
^Yeah that's why I always start the round out with Rose's soul throw :)
It works like 80% of the time. Sometimes they don't jump.

DarkKenpachi
03-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Every match I get into the other person always-always starts it off with a jump into a roundhouse kick and they always miss.

^Yeah that's why I always start the round out with Rose's soul throw :)
It works like 80% of the time. Sometimes they don't jump.


so true. thats why I always start with a dragon punch or any other anti air attacks. lol

finished gouken's normal trials last night.

so I got left:
18 time and survival trials to redo
30 normal moves
120 hard moves

plus the ridiculous feat of getting 506 wins for a title and icon.

I need to start playing shorter matches so I can get some more win by decision victories online. only got the 1 for the trophy but I need more to unlock the title and icon.

ohvermie
03-06-2009, 03:52 PM
Hit me up Kenpachi if you ever want to medal stuff (we can trade off perfects and win by decisions) for titles/icons.

Had my 500th match last night. Shame it was a disconnect. :roll:

DarkKenpachi
03-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Hit me up Kenpachi if you ever want to medal stuff (we can trade off perfects and win by decisions) for titles/icons.

Had my 500th match last night. Shame it was a disconnect. :roll:


works for me :) we can set them for 5 round matches and fight out the last 3 like normal. :)
I still have to get 5 titles and icons seperately of finishing normal and move challenges and they are:

-30 perfect victories
-30 Chip damages victories
-30 time victories
-301 wins
-506 wins

I will get the last 2 eventually, but right now I am more concerned with the first 3

If the source on gamefaqs is correct, thats what you need to unlock the 5 rarest online titles and icons.

on a side note. I must say again these move challenges are so frustrating. the youtube videos help, but whoever thought to put these in the game was a real jerk and a real lonely s.o.b. these challenges will never compensate for the lack of the seeing it in action at the arcade.

slam09
03-06-2009, 10:31 PM
I have now figured out how to play Fuerte good. Use a fight stick. It's impossible to use him to full potential with the game pad. You NEED to be able to focus and throw while being able to charge a Quesadilla Bomb. Quesadilla Bomb = Better Anti-air than Fuerte's anti air throw

dmunkee
03-07-2009, 04:06 AM
I have now figured out how to play Fuerte good. Use a fight stick. It's impossible to use him to full potential with the game pad. You NEED to be able to focus and throw while being able to charge a Quesadilla Bomb. Quesadilla Bomb = Better Anti-air than Fuerte's anti air throw

My biggest problem with El Fuerte is that I instinctively want to do his run with kick, so in the heat of battle I walk back and forth throwing out kicks :lol:

It can be extremely satisfying to just run circles around your opponent :D

crunchb3rry
03-07-2009, 06:27 AM
OMG! Probaly old news by now but Capcom said if enough people demand it, they'll add T-Hawk and DeeJay via DLC. Best part is they already made the 3D models the characters, it's just a matter of drawing up the skins for them. Why we need to beg I don't understand. They should just do it. It's only logical to add the other half of the New Challengers.