Wii Shop Thread: ***FINAL FANTASY 3 IS OUT ON THE VC***

[Strell]

Go back to your Mario Galaxy 2 pontificating, pontificator.

[foltzie]

And here I thought page 13 was going to be related discussion about Wii Shop downloads. You people are disgusting.

Wii Shop? Is that something Nintendo is releasing in Smarch?

[Strell]

They would, but the weather was lousy.

[Friend of Sonic]

Go back to your Mario Galaxy 2 pontificating, pontificator.
I can't believe that thread got nothing but serious responses. I guess that just goes to show any fluff post with poor grammar will be entertained by the Wii CAG community.

[Strell]

Woot! (http://www.amazon.com/World-Goo-Online-Game-Code-Wii/dp/B00213JM9O/ref=amb_link_84099091_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-2&pf_rd_r=0TEH6T89JP1ZEJWJ4NJG&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=475497751&pf_rd_i=14218901)

Amazon has a listing for World of Goo on Wiiware.

This could mean the start of deals like we've seen with their XBLA offerings. Here's hoping, anyway.

[wii skiier]

Woot! (http://www.amazon.com/World-Goo-Online-Game-Code-Wii/dp/B00213JM9O/ref=amb_link_84099091_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-2&pf_rd_r=0TEH6T89JP1ZEJWJ4NJG&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=475497751&pf_rd_i=14218901)

Amazon has a listing for World of Goo on Wiiware.

This could mean the start of deals like we've seen with their XBLA offerings. Here's hoping, anyway.
Cool! It would be great to see price fluctuations/sales on these.

Unrelated - no one here really talked about this game except to make fun of the idea (which I think I participated in), but it ranks really highly on metacritic. Has anyone played Bonsai Barber?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/bonsaibarber

[theflicker]

Cool! It would be great to see price fluctuations/sales on these.

Unrelated - no one here really talked about this game except to make fun of the idea (which I think I participated in), but it ranks really highly on metacritic. Has anyone played Bonsai Barber?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/bonsaibarber

I was curious if only because Nintendo published it. Based on replies here, maybe I'll pick it up.

[Strell]

Bonsai Barber got a lot of good buzz around GoNintendo. It was made by some former Rare staff, including some of the Goldeneye team. Seems like everyone that got it really enjoyed it, so long as you are ok with the colorful veneer.

The only strike against it, as I recall, is that it limits the number of barberin's you can do per day. I think the max is five? It's meant to mimic the idea that you are running an actual shop, and as such, only have so much clientele per day.

It wasn't something I was interested in, and I doubt I'll ever get it, but the general opinion is quite good. Here's (http://gonintendo.com/?p=77824) an "End of the day" post that seemed to speak really highly of the game, and provides a movie for introspection.

Edit: A bit of the old sour grapes, guvnah: Nintendo UK currently has no plans for Amazon releases. (http://www.casualgaming.biz/news/28497/No-plans-to-bring-Amazon-WiiWare-codes-to-UK) You guys have my sympathies, at least until I get Majora's Mask you jerks.

[crunchewy]

I'm interested in Bonsai Barber, but haven't gotten it yet. I probably won't for a while, but it's on my list. Definitely has gotten good reviews and sounds fun.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got 2 WiiWare games, Adventure Island: The Beginning - 1000 Points, and Crystal Defenders R1 - 800 Points.

[KingBroly]

Adventure Island doesn't look very inspired if you ask me. How many VC games are we at right now? I need to make a note of when I should get my 1000 points ready for Majora's Mask.

[Cao Cao]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=80319
May's VC lineup for Japan has been revealed:
FC:
-Downtown Special: Kunio-kun no Jidaigeki Dayo Zenin Shuugou (Successor to River City Ransom, takes place in feudal Japan, introduced a lot of features that were later in RCRex)
-Ninja-Kun: Ashura no Shou
-Final Fantasy
-Famicom Wars

SFC:
-Kirby’s Dream Land 3 (April 28th)

SMS:
-R-Type

PCE:
-SimEarth (CD)

VCA:
-Numan Athletics (April 28th)
-Youkai Douchuuki (April 28th)

[lordopus99]

I wonder if there is ever a chance that Mickey Mousecapades will ever make it on...

or any idea if a Boy and his Blob will appear when the new Wii version comes out...

[StarKnightX]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=80319
May's VC lineup for Japan has been revealed:
FC:
-Famicom Wars

I would love to see the Nintendo wars series get a release over here , and considering how well Advance Wars has done for them I don't know why they wouldn't sell.

Then again , that would require them to go back and translate (or port) old games.

[Halo05]

I wonder if we'll wind up getting Final Fantasy before or after Japan. I just found my old Nintendo Power strategy guide in the basement, I'm totally ready to grind.

[foltzie]

Adventure Island doesn't look very inspired if you ask me. How many VC games are we at right now? I need to make a note of when I should get my 1000 points ready for Majora's Mask.

Wonder Boy would agree with your assessment of Mr. Higgins.

[Strell]

I wonder if we'll wind up getting Final Fantasy before or after Japan. I just found my old Nintendo Power strategy guide in the basement, I'm totally ready to grind.

I got a friend who will replay old RPGs under self-made restrictions and other random imposed criteria, such as "how fast can I beat this," low level runs, etc.

He said playing FF1 with a one White Mage only party is one of the most difficult, luck-based things he's ever attempted. Yes, one. Kill the other three people in your party and go the rest of the game with one WM.

Might be fun to try out.

[SL4IN]

Man, I would love for us to get that RCR sequel-esque game, but I know it will never come out here.

I was going to download something off the VC the other day since I have like, 2000 points that have sat in my account since January, but I couldn't find anything I wanted to buy. I know for sure I'm using 900 to get Gley Lancer in July, but is there anything else to look forward to?

[pete5883]

Cave Story?

[Reality's Fringe]

Where's my Secret of Evermore?

[Strell]

but is there anything else to look forward to?

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/meat_cuts.jpg

[StarKnightX]

Where's my Secret of Evermore?

As much as I know this game was really just a weak semi-sequel to SOM and that Square considers it one of their bastard children , I'd actually like to see the game again myself.

[The Crotch]

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/meat_cuts.jpg
Well, I'm in.

EDIT: Having beaten every single level (but nowhere near collected very single bandaid) in the Newgrounds game (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/463241) on which that will be based, I am now double in. That's a lot of in.

[KingBroly]

NINTENDO DOWNLOAD: POKER, PLANES AND PLATFORM GAMES FUEL PLAYERS' AMBITION

April 27, 2009
The table is set for card-flipping fun with this week's release of Clubhouse Games™ Express: Card Classics on Nintendo DSiWare™, while the new Paper Airplane Chase™ packs portable challenges for fans of airborne action. WiiWare™ users will find Cocoto Platform Jumper, a wildly imaginative new platformer populated by mysterious creatures. Last but not least, Nobunaga's Ambition, a classic strategy game from the Super NES™ system era, finds its way to the Virtual Console™.

As an added bonus to help celebrate the recent launch of the new Nintendo DSi™ system, Club Nintendo members now will be able to earn coins for registering, linking and providing feedback about their Nintendo DSi systems. They also will be able to earn coins for providing feedback about Nintendo DSiWare titles, which will be automatically registered on their Club Nintendo account when they link their Nintendo DSi Shop to their Club Nintendo account.

Nintendo DSiWare

Clubhouse Games Express: Card Classics (Nintendo, 1-8 players, Rated T for Teen - Simulated Gambling, 500 Nintendo DSi Points™): Clubhouse Games comes to Nintendo DSiWare with a collection of five fun card games in Clubhouse Games Express: Card Classics. Play familiar favorites like Blackjack and Five Card Draw, or test your ability in the fast-paced Last Card, Last Card Plus and President. DS Download Play allows players to host as many as seven friends.

Paper Airplane Chase™ (Nintendo, 1-2 players, Rated E for Everyone, 200 Nintendo DSi Points): In Paper Airplane Chase, glide your virtual paper plane through an increasingly tricky slalom course. Take it slow in Endless mode or zip through several Time Attack courses. The two-player Race mode allows friends to race each other using a single Nintendo DSi system.

WiiWare

Cocoto Platform Jumper (Neko Entertainment, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone - Mild Cartoon Violence, 700 Wii Points™): A long time ago in a faraway land, strange little creatures lived in the depths of Abyss. Cocoto, his little devil friends and the mysterious Fairy protect the secret of the magma — the source of their power — in a magic cauldron. Meanwhile, Zaron, the god of lightning who lusts after this force, is up to something. He can count on the rulers of the other kingdoms that Cocoto must cross. The tragic kidnapping of Shiny, Baggy and Neuro has left Cocoto alone to watch over the cauldron. Refusing to leave his friends, he will set out to find them with Fairy.

Virtual Console

Nobunaga's Ambition (Super NES, 1-8 players, Rated E for Everyone - Violent References, 800 Wii Points): Nobunaga's Ambition is a game set in Japan's Warring States period, a turbulent age when feudal warlords battled for control of the country. As the ruler of a fief, the player chooses his or her own path to conquest: Will you wage war on your neighbors or rely on diplomacy? Use economic sanctions or send ninja assassins? Use all of your ingenuity and resources to unite Japan under your banner.

Nintendo adds new titles to the Nintendo DSi Shop and the Wii™ Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time on Mondays. Users with broadband Internet access can redeem Wii Points or Nintendo DSi Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel. Nintendo DSi Points can be purchased in the Nintendo DSi Shop. A Nintendo Points Card™ can be purchased at retail locations. All points from one Nintendo Points Card must be redeemed in either the Nintendo DSi Shop or the Wii Shop Channel. They are not transferable and cannot be divided between the two systems.

Remember that both Wii and Nintendo DSi feature parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other features, visit Wii.com (http://wii.com/) or NintendoDSi.com (http://nintendodsi.com/).


:roll: Oh, NOA

[lilboo]

What the hell?

[Strell]

Geez.

Cocoto Games are liking finding scorpions as the prize in a cereal box.

[nuttyturnip]

Why is Clubhouse Games Express: Card Classics rated T, when the regular DS Clubhouse Games is rated E? It's the same content. Granted, you'd have to be pretty dense not to just pay the $20 to get the full game, complete with wifi online play.

[lordwow]

see ya next week :wave:

[crunchewy]

Paper Airplane Chase has actually gotten a good review on nintendolife (formerly WiiwareWorld, etc):

http://dsiware.nintendolife.com/reviews/2009/04/paper_plane_dsiware

Having said that, this continues the awful trend. I will probably get paper airplane as it is the closest to something I'll enjoy and it is relatively cheap, though insanely overpriced compared to what something similar would cost on the iPod touch. Namely, FREE. I guess we'll have to hope that 3rd party developers make much, much, much better use of DSiWare, because it's obvious Nintendo has no plans to do anything good with it. Why, I don't know.

Bizarrely I am now far more excited about the prospect of buying a used GBA SP. I'm planning to do so today or tomorrow. I can't wait! EDIT: I recently picked up a copy of Mario Kart Super Circuit and it is great. I'd never played it before. My kids have a GBA SP and I've been borrowing it! EDIT2: and previously was playing Super Mario Land 2. Also great, and you can't play that on a DS Lite!

[Strell]

Introducing Wii Shop Thread new feature: Thread Salvaging from crappy releases!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF2tEYcrmxc

Yes. It is precisely what you think it is. Except it involves electric shock.

[Ryukahn]

If we get Final Fantasy by the end of May, I'll be very happy! :drool:

[SL4IN]

I am interested in Cave Story, it just seems like we've been waiting on it forever. And I've got some interest in Super Meat Boy.

I suppose I should have refrased my statement, and say: "is there anything on the virtual console to look forward to other than Gley Lancer?"

[tiredfornow]

see ya next week :wave:Yeah. So used to disappointment. :cry:

[Inf^Shini]

Who purchased Gradius Rebirth and loved it? I heard it was pretty short n' easy for $10.

[Cao Cao]

Another video of Toribash Wiiware:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCd4vivZtI

[Cao Cao]

Well, I'm in.

EDIT: Having beaten every single level (but nowhere near collected very single bandaid) in the Newgrounds game (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/463241) on which that will be based, I am now double in. That's a lot of in.

Speaking of Super Meat Boy, they announced the first Indie Game-based "Guest Character." It's quite a whopper of a character...
http://www.destructoid.com/enter-tim-super-meat-boy-s-first-guest-star-130251.phtml
http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/130251-TimMeat.jpg

You can go to one of their blog posts (http://supermeatboy.blogspot.com/2009/03/meat-man-cometh.html) zoom in a couple of times on that Flash-based animated spritesheet, and see Tim-Meat's sprite.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got 1 VC game, Galaxy Force II - SEGA Genesis/800 Points.

[Strell]

GaijinGames has shown off their follow-up to Bit.Trip Beat, Bit.Trip Core. (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/puzzle/bittripcore/news.html?sid=6209060&mode=news)

Instead of a Break-Out/Arkanoid type game where you move a paddle around, you press a direction on the dpad as a dot runs over it. It's like a really vintage looking DDR.

I'd embed the videos if I knew how.

I have to admit, I like this style a lot. All chiptuney and oldskool. I hope these guys start working on DSiware stuff too.

[pete5883]

Damn, that looks tough. Also doesn't look as different from beat as I expected.

[blandstalker]

GaijinGames has shown off their follow-up to Bit.Trip Beat, Bit.Trip Core. (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/puzzle/bittripcore/news.html?sid=6209060&mode=news)

Instead of a Break-Out/Arkanoid type game where you move a paddle around, you press a direction on the dpad as a dot runs over it. It's like a really vintage looking DDR.

It looks like Cosmic Ark meets DDR.

I'm in.

[BlueLobstah]

*yawn*

WiiWare

Penguins & Friends - Hey! That's My Fish! (Gammick Entertainment, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone, 800 Wii Points™): The penguins are hungry and need your help. Catch all the fish you can before someone steals them from you. Strategy is fundamental in this exciting game. Keep moving ahead of the other penguins so you don't get trapped, and try to get to the ice floes that hold more fish. One to four players can play Penguins & Friends at the same time, provided they can handle the polar cold. The board is made up of ice blocks with a set number of fish under them. The ice blocks are hexagonal and form a structure like a beehive. The starting position of the ice blocks can change, creating different game boards.

Virtual Console

Tower Toppler™ (Commodore 64, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone, 500 Wii Points): Weird things are happening on Planet Nebulus. Someone or something has begun building huge towers on the sea floor without a construction license. Your mission is to ascend each of the eight cylindrical towers, passing various obstacles along the way, and to trigger the tower's destruction mechanism to demolish the evil threat. Praised upon its original 1987 release for its graphical innovation, this is considered to be the most outstanding game from Hewson. Don't miss out on this classic favorite.

[lilboo]

Like... people are supposed to be buying this stuff??? Am I missing something???

[lordwow]

... No really, see you next week :wave:

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Is there a headslap smiley?

#-o

Found it!

GaijinGames has shown off their follow-up to Bit.Trip Beat, Bit.Trip Core. (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/puzzle/bittripcore/news.html?sid=6209060&mode=news)

Instead of a Break-Out/Arkanoid type game where you move a paddle around, you press a direction on the dpad as a dot runs over it. It's like a really vintage looking DDR.

I'd embed the videos if I knew how.

I have to admit, I like this style a lot. All chiptuney and oldskool. I hope these guys start working on DSiware stuff too.

Day 1 for me. It looks VERY similar to BTB but I want to see how digital controls feel compared to the analog controls of the last one. I STILL haven't finished Growth yet. I need to go back to that and finally memorize the whole thing.

[Nohbdy]

I Was Promised Cave Story

Where Is My Cave Story, Nintendo

[soonersfan60]

I really, really wonder how the games are chosen...

[Ryukahn]

I really, really wonder how the games are chosen...

I'd like to know as well.

[Strell]

Yeah, you people weren't going to buy either of those anyway. So the title stays for this week.

Makes me wonder if the people who chose it associate something very bad with May 4th. Or maybe they'll get shitfaced tomorrow on Cinco de Mayo and drunk-upload games, not unlike drunk dialing an ex.

I actually saw the Crash Bandicoot XBLM "sale" this week and thought: Surely Nintendo is offering something better, right?

WRONG.

[mykevermin]

What a shitshow.

I only very rarely associate Mondays w/ Wii releases, though I used to follow the channel threads every Monday until I saw what came out.

When are we getting "Beast Wrestler?"

;)

[Strell]

When you upload a video of yourself singing Don't Stop Believing while stirring cookie dough and wearing a Hulkamania shirt, myke.

[mykevermin]

Is that available on Singstar? I could make that happen.

[Strell]

I think it is on Rock Band.

[Inf^Shini]

Ask TMK, he'll know ;)

[Brad Bishop]

I don't know why they don't just give up altogether and just have an endless string of games we all see at Target like:
- Puppyz
- Donkeyz
- Stripperz
- Whorez
- Things We Do on the Floor 3!

It seems like they could release some good stuff from C64 or for the Virtual Arade but no - each week is crap.

The Crapware seems pretty universal. PS3 stuff doesn't look any better (at the store or online - same as Wii). I don't have a X360 but I suspect it's more of the same there (the same games released over and over with different title would probably be the main difference instead of the idiot games we get for the Wii)

[Doomed]

Makes me wonder if the people who chose it associate something very bad with May 4th. Or maybe they'll get shitfaced tomorrow on Cinco de Mayo and drunk-upload games, not unlike drunk dialing an ex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_4
Maybe they went to Kent State?

[crunchewy]

Some people on wiiware.nintendolife.com are claiming that "Penguins & Friends - Hey! That's My Fish!" is a Wii version of a fun board game, and one that is sort of a pain to set up in the real world, so could potentially be a decent WiiWare game, actually, if you like that sort of thing. I wish they had demos. It might be something I could recommend for my kids, but I have absolutely no idea. Maybe the game is too complicated or just wouldn't be any fun for them. Maybe we'd all love it and swear it was the 2nd coming. I don't have any idea.

EDIT: Here's a review of the board game (the physical game, not the WiiWare version) on, strangely, rpt.net:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/11/11936.phtml

Also of note is that the board game goes for quite a bit more money then the WiiWare edition. I may actually have to suggest this one for my kids. It sounds like a good way to trick them into a strategy game. Penguins? Yes!

EDIT2: IGN has a review, and it says it's a pretty straight conversion, lacking in charm (or some such words), not to mention wifi. Gives it a mediocre review as a result:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/979/979172p1.html

[pete5883]

Damn, I actually remember Tower Toppler from the C64, though not by name.

[Cao Cao]

For BTB fans who are having trouble advancing, Gaijin Games said that the whole "Bit.Trip Beat only saves when you get a high score" thing is a bug that's only present in the US version. They have released some save files for levels 2 and 3:
http://www.gaijingames.com/?p=371

They didn't say why they aren't releasing a fixed version for the US, but if I had to guess, I'd say that the first possibility is that Nintendo doesn't allow third-party patches for WiiWare, or something.

[BlueLobstah]

For BTB fans who are having trouble advancing, Gaijin Games said that the whole "Bit.Trip Beat only saves when you get a high score" thing is a bug that's only present in the US version. They have released some save files for levels 2 and 3:
http://www.gaijingames.com/?p=371

They didn't say why they aren't releasing a fixed version for the US, but if I had to guess, I'd say that the first possibility is that Nintendo doesn't allow third-party patches for WiiWare, or something.


That's interesting, as that's one thing that has kept me away from Bit.Trip Beat.

I'm pretty sure that Dr. Mario has received an update in the past, so it is kind of interesting if Nintendo doesn't allow updates for third-party WiiWare titles. I this is indeed the case, it's really a disappointment and a flaw in their system.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

That's interesting, as that's one thing that has kept me away from Bit.Trip Beat.

I'm pretty sure that Dr. Mario has received an update in the past, so it is kind of interesting if Nintendo doesn't allow updates for third-party WiiWare titles. I this is indeed the case, it's really a disappointment and a flaw in their system.

Well they should be able to release a completely new version of the game and allow you to download that from WiiWare. Some VC games have been "patched" this way and other channels have been updated in the same fashion.

I had no idea that this bug even existed. I must have gotten a high score when beating first two levels I guess. My problem isn't the bug, it's that the 3rd level is a nightmare.

[Cao Cao]

That's interesting, as that's one thing that has kept me away from Bit.Trip Beat.

I'm pretty sure that Dr. Mario has received an update in the past, so it is kind of interesting if Nintendo doesn't allow updates for third-party WiiWare titles. I this is indeed the case, it's really a disappointment and a flaw in their system.

As I said, it's only a possibility. The way I see it, this is the likely fault-o-meter scale:
100% GaijinGames - They just don't want to spend time working on and releasing an update.
50/50 - Nintendo allows patches, but they have to go through the entire submission process again before it can be released.
100% Nintendo - Doesn't allow patches for third-party Wiiware titles.

[ratzombie]

Have we seen an update of a game from a third-party, at all? Yeah first party games, but I can't think of any third-party games.

[pete5883]

I'm guessing Nintendo doesn't want to spend the time/money/manpower to go through the submission process for an update that won't make them any money.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got 1 VC game, and 1 WiiWare game, Fantasy Zone II: The Tears of Opa-Opa - SEGA Master System/500 Points, and Rainbow Islands: Towering Adventure - WiiWare/800 Points.

[Strell]

Konami continues ReBirth series with Contra (http://www.konami.jp/products/dl_wii_contra_re_ww/)

Hope it's good. Looks like a cross between Contra on the NES and Contra III on the SNES.

I don't think ReBirth is meant to be an actual series, but Gradius did it already. Maybe they'll continue with other titles.

[tiredfornow]

:drool:

Love me some Contra.

[ratzombie]

Oooh, that looks sick. Count me in.

[Halo05]

I just hope they bring out Contra Hard Corps and/or Contra 1 to go along with it.

[lilboo]

I am in the mood to play Yoshi's Island.
::WAVES MONEY AT NINTENDO::

NINTENDO, I HAVE MONEY. PLEASE TAKE SOME OF IT.

[Mr. Beef]

I am in the mood to play Yoshi's Island.
::WAVES MONEY AT NINTENDO::

NINTENDO, I HAVE MONEY. PLEASE TAKE SOME OF IT.
http://www.geocities.com/simpsonshq2000/Pictures/characters/moe_angry.JPG
"Ah, your money's no good here...hey wait a minute, this is REAL money!"

[Reality's Fringe]

Konami continues ReBirth series with Contra (http://www.konami.jp/products/dl_wii_contra_re_ww/)

Hope it's good. Looks like a cross between Contra on the NES and Contra III on the SNES.

I don't think ReBirth is meant to be an actual series, but Gradius did it already. Maybe they'll continue with other titles.

My pantsu could not be any tighter right now.

Me want Bill Rizer.

[crunchewy]

I enjoyed the DS Contra game for a while, but then the extreme difficulty, resulting in repeating levels over and over, got old. It was fine for the first 3 or 4 levels, but then to make it to the later levels you have to repeat levels *so* much. I'm not sure I'd buy a Contra Rebirth game or not. It depends on the price and it depends on if it allows you to skip a level once you've beaten it, which I take it is sacrilegious or something.

[RelentlessRolento]

this is the first Wii Ware game I'd actually want...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-oZ5Y8drAg

[The Crotch]

No heart for Super Meat Boy?

[chembree]

I am in the mood to play Yoshi's Island.
::WAVES MONEY AT NINTENDO::

NINTENDO, I HAVE MONEY. PLEASE TAKE SOME OF IT.

For Reals!!! ... I have points sitting in my account just for this game!!!!!

Anyway, of topic a little bit .... i dont post that often, but I have to give props to you and Strell ... your posts are always great! ....

[Wolfkin]

No heart for Super Meat Boy?SMB is out? sweetness

[Strell]

I got the update this time, you magnificent jerks!


For more of a board-game feel, dive into Family Pirate Party on WiiWare™ and see who can collect the most gold. Finally, the out-of-this-world arcade shooter Galaxy Force™ II hits the Virtual Console™.

WiiWare

Family Pirate Party (Aksys Games, 1-4 players, Rated E 10+ for Everyone 10 and Older – Mild Cartoon Violence and Suggestive Themes, 500 Wii Points™): Daddy, Mommy, Sarah and Billy make their return as pirates sailing the seas and skies. Roll the dice and sail through the islands to gather the treasures each island holds. The person with the most gold at the end wins. Family Pirate Party shines with its appealing cel-shaded graphics and endearing music. Challenge up to three other players (friends, the CPU or both) for some four-player board-game fun. Do you have it in you to defeat your opponents and become the king of Family Pirate Party!?

Virtual Console

Galaxy Force II (Sega Genesis, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone – Fantasy Violence, 800 Wii Points): Galaxy Force II is an arcade shooter with a 3-D view from behind your spaceship. Fly through five different planets, taking on enemies in environments that range from a peaceful garden to lands made of fire or ice. Navigate treacherous landscapes by flying low over the planet’s surface and blowing up enemy robots, ships and turrets, then flying through a tunnel to destroy the alien stronghold on each planet. It is your duty as part of the Galaxy Force to defend against the alien invasion and maintain peace in the solar system.

Nintendo adds new titles to the Nintendo DSi Shop™ and the Wii™ Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time on Mondays. Users with broadband Internet access can redeem Wii Points or Nintendo DSi Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel. Nintendo DSi Points can be purchased in the Nintendo DSi Shop. A Nintendo Points Card™ can be purchased at retail locations. All points from one Nintendo Points Card must be redeemed in either the Nintendo DSi Shop or the Wii Shop Channel. They are not transferable and cannot be divided between the two systems.


Swing and a miss.

[lilboo]

:rofl: Mommy, Daddy, Sarah, and Billy <3

[Wolfkin]

we should stop calling them updates.. they're more like downdates

[BlueLobstah]

I got the update this time, you magnificent jerks!


I woke up, saw the update, and quickly decided it wasn't even worth posting.

[KingBroly]

we should stop calling them updates.. they're more like downdates

Maybe we should just start ignoring them altogether?

[ratzombie]

we should stop calling them updates.. they're more like downdates
http://nohomers.net/images/smilies/rimshot.gif

[lordwow]

I wonder why I even wake up on Mondays anymore.

[vherub]

in the continued absence of decent weeks, there is this post on bit trip regarding the save game only on high score being a bug-
http://www.gaijingames.com/?p=371

[The Crotch]

I would just like to take this opportunity to remind all y'all to buy Uncharted Waters 2 for the SNES.
SMB is out? sweetness
Nah, 'fraid not. Besides, you haven't beaten all the fan-made levels yet. Go back to those.

[Mr. Beef]

I think people would be more inclined to buy all these space shooters if part of the profits went towards an actual space defense force.

[gunm]

I have 1700 VC points. And nothing to spend them on.

This sucks.

[Inf^Shini]

I have 1700 VC points. And nothing to spend them on.

This sucks.
I've had the same amount for a long time. Last thing I ever got was Ys I&II :/

[Wolfkin]

I think I'm only sitting on 300. I'd buy more cause I do need to get some VC games like Super Metroid but without excitement of new games I can't even muster the energy to buy old ones

[Inf^Shini]

I'm fortunate that I picked up a used Wii of a CAG that already had a ton of VC games I actually wanted to get :-P

[gunm]

Yeah, if I ever spend the points I have, I'll be totally done with VC forever I think. :p

[Halo05]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/sony_bullshit_anim4.gif

Can someone add "Nintendo" to this?

[Wolfkin]

Nintendo has the magical power to be able to grant our wishes and just not do it. So they aren't exactly screwing us yet.

it's the subtle difference between donald trump stealing $100 from a homeless man and donald trump just not giving him $5.

not that it doesn't suck either way.

[Ryukahn]

I have 1700 VC points. And nothing to spend them on.

This sucks.

I'm sitting on 3k (though 2k is on an unused points card). It's a real shame, as the VC was the major selling point of the console to me back at release.

[decrot]

You're dead to me nintendo. after many years sticking with you who'd have thought their most successful system would make me defect.

[Strell]

Wow. Can we get a little more melodramatic in here? Criminy. Buying the Wii for the VC is like buying a car because it has eight cupholders.

[rocky435]

Well this seems to come in cycles..NOA last year did this where there was a bunch of crappy games followed by some more wanted games.

I'd say just get a japanese wii or downgrade the firmware to 3.2 and use something like anyregion to at least be able to play japanese imports on the system.

At least with the ps 3 i can buy an psn import card and then buy till my hearts content without worrying about region free being broken.

I remember when the wii was rumored to be region free and it turns out it wasn't :cry:. Anyways if it was region free would you guys complain as much??? I wouldn't even though i can't read much japanese it's still being able to play the games...

[decrot]

Well this seems to come in cycles..NOA last year did this where there was a bunch of crappy games followed by some more wanted games.

I'd say just get a japanese wii or downgrade the firmware to 3.2 and use something like anyregion to at least be able to play japanese imports on the system.

At least with the ps 3 i can buy an psn import card and then buy till my hearts content without worrying about region free being broken.

I remember when the wii was rumored to be region free and it turns out it wasn't :cry:. Anyways if it was region free would you guys complain as much??? I wouldn't even though i can't read much japanese it's still being able to play the games...
The complaints would probably be the same. though I think they do have earthbound there, but im not sure.

I guess the only game I would want to play from Japan is fatal frame 4, too bad its not in english.

Tatsunko vs. capcom is a fun game and knowing japanese isn't necessary, but the controls seem to be way too simple.

[Ryukahn]

Buying the Wii for the VC is like buying a car because it has eight cupholders.

If someone were to say NOW that they were buying a Wii for VC then I'd agree, but I'm talking about when the system first released, so this analogy is ridiculous. When the system first released, having access to all of the games I grew up playing (been gaming over 20 years) was an insanely awesome thought. Instead, I'm left wondering on a weekly basis why Nintendo doesn't want my money. The VC has the potential to give us instant access to a ton of the greatest games ever made. While the service certainly isn't the worst thing ever, it's a far cry from what it could and should be. So for me, someone that expected far greater access to a lot of the games I grew up playing, it's very disappointing.

[Strell]

If you actually thought you'd have access to all of the games you grew up playing, you were naive and had stars in your eyes. That was never the deal at all, and it was largely known even then that licensing and rights issues would bar a good portion of the available titles, to say nothing of being an obstacle for available titles to begin with.

The larger point is that if this is THAT much of a problem for you, then get rid of your system and go on your happy little way.

Hell, I'm still surprised Square games are showing up on the service. And even more so, Wiiware titles, something I was absolutely sure Nintendo wouldn't tackle this time around because they'd be able to rely on their backlogs and legacies to sustain the entire digital distribution sector.

Yes, I'm wondering where first party games like Pilotwings 64 and Pro Wrestling are. But at the same time, there's still a huge amount of games to play that I've already gotten, and still another dozen more I'd like to have but don't have the points.

For some reason, I don't believe for a second that everyone here has legitimately exhausted all the titles that are worthwhile on the shop. The recent weeks have been disappointing, but it's nowhere near the level of whining present here.

[Wolfkin]

Wow. Can we get a little more melodramatic in here? Criminy. Buying the Wii for the VC is like buying a car because it has eight cupholders.i guess you're right maybe I did get carried away a bit.

[blandstalker]

For some reason, I don't believe for a second that everyone here has legitimately exhausted all the titles that are worthwhile on the shop. The recent weeks have been disappointing, but it's nowhere near the level of whining present here.

The whole enterprise does beg the question why they are even bothering to update.

I mean, really? A shitty Genesis port of a game absolutely no one is asking for? A poorly implemented party game featuring pirates, which were the big thing like two years ago? I'm sure there are worse games somewhere. Maybe. Ones that companies are even asking money for.

Couldn't they just have the decency to say "Sorry, we were so busy counting our money that we didn't have time to prepare anything worth your money or time". It would have an honesty and integrity that Family Pirate Party seems to lack.

Rather than throw recycled vomit up in the air and hope it comes down money, couldn't they just spend the time working on, oh I dunno, games people actually want to play? Ideas that seem, y'know, good?

Just an idea. I know it's crazy.

I think the whining would go down if there was some actual response to demand, some reassurance that the people choosing the games aren't using dartboards and blindfolds, or that there is a plan, a vision, or even a clue.

Sure, you can order that cone of dependable Rocky Road or Cookie Dough that's been there for months. But you'd also be within your rights to bitch if the store hypes up its new weekly special flavors, only to find they're Chili con Carne and Earwax.

Again.

[ratzombie]

Well you can't blame him for being disappointed in the VC thus far, Nintendo touted it around as being a reason to get a Wii. I remember us CAGs being very excited about it, "It will be like the Sega Channel! AWESOME", Nintendo marketing didn't help any.

I don't recall any of us analyzing licensing deals back then, maybe you did, but I don't think the majority of us went that far. Hell we still thought Earthbound was coming out until recently. That being said, I'm not disappointed in the VC, they do release a decent game once in a while, which is plenty for me since I have more than just a Wii to play. I'm still playing Super Mario RPG for christ sake.

[Ryukahn]

The larger point is that if this is THAT much of a problem for you, then get rid of your system and go on your happy little way.

It seems like it's a huge problem to you, not me. All I said was that the VC was the main reason I bought a Wii, and you make a ridiculous analogy that was basically a way of calling me stupid, which was totally uncalled for.

[Strell]

The whole enterprise does beg the question why they are even bothering to update.

I mean, really? A shitty Genesis port of a game absolutely no one is asking for? A poorly implemented party game featuring pirates, which were the big thing like two years ago? I'm sure there are worse games somewhere. Maybe. Ones that companies are even asking money for.

I'm sure the app store is a good place to check for worse games.


Couldn't they just have the decency to say "Sorry, we were so busy counting our money that we didn't have time to prepare anything worth your money or time". It would have an honesty and integrity that Family Pirate Party seems to lack.

Two things: The first is that you're sort of perpetuating this idea that Nintendo themselves is masterminding all the shop releases. I guess in a very indirect way they kind of are, but not beyond an approval process. They aren't contacting people and saying "Hey could you make a family friendly series of games using a pirate motif for us? Great. And also could you come in this Saturday? We lost a couple of people and we need to play catch up. Greeeaaaat."

Second, yeah, no one here likes those series. But that isn't to say others don't. So on some level you can't just dismiss everything. I have to assume at some point that these games are generating revenue for the companies. Maybe it's only a few thousand dollars. I have a friend who is trying to write app store stuff, and he's doing it almost purely out of the hope that it'll literally get him another twenty bucks a week. Further, that if he were to have three or four things out there, he'd have a more substantial return.

So in the end, really the only answer here would be to see sales figures, which we can only glean based on developer interviews. And even those tend to only be one of the extremes - either "our game sold poorly and we hate the service" or "our game made us lots of money." See: Steel Penny Games (Bruiser and Scratch) versus Capcom (Megaman 9).


Rather than throw recycled vomit up in the air and hope it comes down money, couldn't they just spend the time working on, oh I dunno, games people actually want to play? Ideas that seem, y'know, good?

Goes along with the above, but the point here is that it's not in Nintendo's best interest to start censoring companies and being draconian about what gets released and what doesn't. If rumors are to be believed, they already do this with their payout mechanism, which says "you have to sell X amount before we pay you," which sounds kind of extortion-y, but everyone seems to say it's an effective measure against stuff not getting released that doesn't retain some quality. I'm guessing after ESRB fees and general development, there's no company out there releasing stuff that says "this is a crap game and we're not going to meet the threshold."


I think the whining would go down if there was some actual response to demand, some reassurance that the people choosing the games aren't using dartboards and blindfolds, or that there is a plan, a vision, or even a clue.

And I agree. I will caution that digital distribution still won't come into its own this generation, which is why Nintendo won't start releasing, say, Super Mario World 3 or whatever.


Sure, you can order that cone of dependable Rocky Road or Cookie Dough that's been there for months. But you'd also be within your rights to bitch if the store hypes up its new weekly special flavors, only to find they're Chili con Carne and Earwax.

Again.

Oh come on - where are they hyping it up? We all know they aren't outside of a small press release. This is the heart of the matter I'm saying, which is that we pretend they tell us they have gold in their pockets, when instead it's just sawdust. But part of that is because we're that easily excitable.

I'm not complaining that this week's XBLA deal is some crap brain game, for example.

Well you can't blame him for being disappointed in the VC thus far, Nintendo touted it around as being a reason to get a Wii. I remember us CAGs being very excited about it, "It will be like the Sega Channel! AWESOME", Nintendo marketing didn't help any.

But again, part of that is our own collective faults when we start dreaming what it could be versus what it probably will be.


It seems like it's a huge problem to you, not me. All I said was that the VC was the main reason I bought a Wii, and you make a ridiculous analogy that was basically a way of calling me stupid, which was totally uncalled for.

No, I'm calling a lot of this whining sensationalistic, built around a lot of exceedingly high expectations that can't possibly be fulfilled, and further augmented with the realization that there's already a good amount of quality retro and new games available. Taking all of this into account, there's more than enough to satisfy even a 10+-hour-a-week gamer busy for months, if not a few years, on legacy titles alone.

It's annoying to update this thing and know it's a bad and boring week, and then having everyone start pretending their legs are broken by people in Family Fun Pirate costumes. If you're that angry about it, just watch the thread title - I'll mention pretty easily "It's a good week" in whatever stupid words I decide strike me at that time.

All this Dour Dora-ness can be checked at the door. Blandstalker was talking about everything in a "why even bother?" way, and that's the mentality I've got here - why bother showing up to the party just to complain about the music, especially when I've put a sign on the door that says WE'RE PLAYING BEEGEES ONLY ALL NIGHT LONG.

[BlueLobstah]

Some cries are warranted due to the disparity between the virtual console in US and Japan. Japan has around 150 more titles than every other country, so without a question their selection is better when compared to everyone else. I think it's only fair that we should ask why does their virtual console have more value on the number titles alone, barring the possibility that they have 150 more titles of crap.

No one could realistically expect to have all of the Marios and Zeldas released within 2 weeks of the Wii's launch, but we're over 2 years past and I think its fair to say that we have been treated rather unfairly in regards to realistic expectations. Aside from any costs involved with having a title newly rated by the ESRB, I imagine the cost to publish a title on the virtual console is rather small so money really isn't the issue here.

Now this is a rather big if here, but we are likely at least halfway through the Wii's lifespan based on Nintendo's history of console releases. If things continue going at this rate, does this mean that we're only likely to see 100-150 more virtual console titles? It's certainly a rough estimate based on 1 VC title per week, but that would only play catch up to what Japan currently has today. I think it is fair to say that complaints based on that are fair game.

[lilboo]

I'll admit, the Virtual Console was one of my biggest reasons to get the Wii. I got my Wii on launch...ya know, before we all knew how this would turn out ;)

Of course there are a great amount of games out on the VC. No one can deny that. But the ratio of GREAT:CRAP is really upsetting. Even MEDIOCRE:CRAP :(

I was also excited last year when WiiWare debuted. How many great, EXCLUSIVE, games are on WiiWare? My favorite games are still My Life as a King and Toki Tori.

We're heading to 3 years of the Wii being out. I understand we still may have 3 more years, but the concept of "eventually, we'll get all the great games" is getting somewhat tiresome. This was a good thinking a year ago..but lately it's been just REALLY "WTF?". I don't understand why they are bothering with Master System and C64 and crappy arcade titles when games like Pilotwings 64, Super Mario Kart, Mario Party, Majora's Mask, Earthbound, etc are just... not available.

::shrug::

[integralsmatic]

The complaints would probably be the same. though I think they do have earthbound there, but im not sure.

I guess the only game I would want to play from Japan is fatal frame 4, too bad its not in english.

Tatsunko vs. capcom is a fun game and knowing japanese isn't necessary, but the controls seem to be way too simple.

im guessing you havent played any of the capcom vs series than havent ya? MvC 2 had just a simple controls as Tatsunoko and there are still a lot of advance maneuvers that normal players cant pull off with just 4 buttons. I like how tatsunoko did a 3 button scheme, it makes aerial raves more simple. It also seemed like they made it more for the combos than anything else. I am enjoying tatsunoko just as much as SSMB. It really shows the capabilities of the Wii. Now if other studios can see this and actually produce some more good titles that i would want to play. Tatsunoko has been my only Wii purchase in the past year.

I havent bought anything on VC since Super Mario RPG was released. who knows what ninty is doing. i too have 2000 points waiting to be spent and i guess they will gather more digital dust.

[Inf^Shini]

I'm interested in FFIV: The After Years :o

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57840

[Wolfkin]

why bother showing up to the party just to complain about the music, especially when I've put a sign on the door that says WE'RE PLAYING BEEGEES ONLY ALL NIGHT LONG.dude you must throw some totally wicked awesome parties.

[HuppSav]

Wow. Can we get a little more melodramatic in here? Criminy. Buying the Wii for the VC is like buying a car because it has eight cupholders.
How do you figure? Most of those old games are hard to find and are much more fun and challenging then any gamecube 1.5 title. I have easily had more fun with my VC titles such as Alien Soldier.

[Doomed]

Oh come on - where are they hyping it up? We all know they aren't outside of a small press release. This is the heart of the matter I'm saying, which is that we pretend they tell us they have gold in their pockets, when instead it's just sawdust. But part of that is because we're that easily excitable.
(I'm not defending the original argument they Nintendo hypes up their releases every week)
They aren't really now, but if you look at the E3's before the Wii launched, they were hyping the Virtual Console as a main selling point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvwwlC9BtU

I do not care that WiiWare is a platform for shovelware. It's annoying, but shovelware follows whatever is cheap to develop for. See: PS2, iPhone/iPod Touch, Nintendo DS.

What irks me the most is that there are a lot of games that people do want, can be released on the VC, have no liscensing issues, and that Nintendo are holding out on releasing for some reason. I want to think they are waiting for a time when Wii sales slow down, but knowing Nintendo, they just don't care.

Even EarthBound is excusable. But the lack of things like Yoshi's Island when they have 9001 versions of the same damn Alex Kidd game is annoying at the very least. If they had a release schedule or said something like
We will absolutely release The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.
people would be less angry. But they haven't, and instead we get crappy C64 games that nobody cares about.

[Strell]

Yoshi's Island utilized the FX chip. That's the call there. Apparently that's difficult to emulate properly, or else I'd imagine it and Starfox would be out by now.

That's why Majora's Mask is somewhat significant, since it shows that they've made the emulator to handle games that utilized the RAM pak.

Look I'm not acting like there's no reason to be disappointed. I don't like updating the thread with the crap that's come out recently. But let's maintain a semblance of sanity here.

[Mr. Beef]

From what I've heard ;), Yoshi's Island does suffer graphically when emulated. I didn't know that they had trouble emulating games with the FX chip, though. Although I think you did mention that the Expansion Pak was one of the reasons why the N64 VC lineup was so small.

[Cao Cao]

Contra Rebirth was released in Japan today, here's some videos of the first stage (There are more videos up of the second and third stages, but keeping spoilers to a minimum):
Stage 1 - Bill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsjbOx9_8FM)
Stage 1 - Yagyu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6JR4DCmXFQ)

[Halo05]

Nintendo saying that they can't emulate the Super FX chip is bullshit. Amateur programmers were doing it ten years ago on Pentium 3s without a lick of help from Nintendo.

Anyhow, I'm not trying to needlessly bitch and moan but the one game a week thing is hard to defend. I don't need 3 AAA titles every week but come on, if you have to put out something like Galaxy Force 2, at least pair it off with something like Phantasy Star for SMS.

I bought my Wii primarily for the Virtual Console and the game that came out as Super Mario Galaxy. I'm not going to pull the "there's nothing coming out that I want" card but there isn't anything announced that I want as much as, I dunno, Rondo of Blood.

[blandstalker]

No, I'm calling a lot of this whining sensationalistic, built around a lot of exceedingly high expectations that can't possibly be fulfilled, and further augmented with the realization that there's already a good amount of quality retro and new games available. Taking all of this into account, there's more than enough to satisfy even a 10+-hour-a-week gamer busy for months, if not a few years, on legacy titles alone.

It's annoying to update this thing and know it's a bad and boring week, and then having everyone start pretending their legs are broken by people in Family Fun Pirate costumes. If you're that angry about it, just watch the thread title - I'll mention pretty easily "It's a good week" in whatever stupid words I decide strike me at that time.

All this Dour Dora-ness can be checked at the door. Blandstalker was talking about everything in a "why even bother?" way, and that's the mentality I've got here - why bother showing up to the party just to complain about the music, especially when I've put a sign on the door that says WE'RE PLAYING BEEGEES ONLY ALL NIGHT LONG.

These are good points, but I want to go to bed at a decent hour today.

I just want to say that it's more than Family Pirate Party, although would it have been so hard for Nintendo to say to the developer "You know, the last two Family games really sucked. Could you make this one suck a little less? Please?" It's hardly draconian for the publisher to ask developers not to stink up the place. Especially given their track record.

I happen to find the choice of Galaxy Force particularly galling. There are hundreds of Genesis titles and Sega has a sizable library. This is a crappy and broken port of a lame game whose sole enjoyment came from the arcade version's hydraulic movement. (I actually played it in an arcade)

It was a rip-off, a cash-in, and an affront to gamers when it was released for the Genesis.

There is absolutely no reason to ever release this game when there are so frickin' many games that are infinitely better. They can't all be held up by licensing. They can't all be unavailable. It is simply unbelievable that a distribution arm like Nintendo can't be able to convince/arrange/make happen the distribution of games that people want to play and are worth playing.

Someone had to decide that this was a good choice to unleash on unsuspecting consumers. Someone had to approve it.

Someone who knows nothing about the game is going to think that there must be something redeeming about it, some reason why it's included in the VC catalog. Some reason why it was unearthed when other games weren't.

They're going to think that it's some reason other than naked greed, laziness, and apathy. Of course, they're going to be wrong about that, but that's part and parcel of thinking that there is any rhyme or reason why the VC is what it is.

There are overly high expectations of VC being everything we ever wanted with a cherry on top, every good game that we ever wanted to play. I don't have those expectations.

But I do have expectations that include games better than Galaxy Force and Family Pirate Party. This isn't just a lame week. It's flipping the bird to customers and a giant WTF. Who in their right mind would even think to offer these for sale?

lilboo mentions the C64. Most people would be surprised to know that the C64 has a library of hundreds of games, many of them classics. The VC has, what, five? And again, people go WTF? They can't all be held up in licensing.

The TurboGrafx and TurboDuo had hundreds of games. It's a little better represented on VC, but really....is that it? C'mon. I can think of 10 games easy that ought to be released, and another several dozen that never made it out of Japan that people would buy. Again, they can't all be victims of licensing.

This is more than sensationalistic whining. It is a legitimate complaint that the service is being wasted on craptastic "games" that no one is demanding, when better offerings that customers actually would want to buy could be made with little effort.

It is also a legitimate complaint that the effort part of that seems to be completely missing.

[Ryukahn]

Final Fantasy IV: The After Years coming soon? You can click the link below to see it listed on the page, and it even has some info on it. Seems odd for EB to have it featured if it won't be out for awhile considering what the page is for.

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/landing/wiiware/

[Halo05]

Final Fantasy IV: The After Years coming soon? You can click the link below to see it listed on the page, and it even has some info on it. Seems odd for EB to have it featured if it won't be out for awhile considering what the page is for.

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/landing/wiiware/

To be fair to Nintendo and I suppose Square, I'm beyond psyched for this game. I'll stop bitching about the VC/Wiiware for quite a while if this lives up to its pedigree.

[Inf^Shini]

Final Fantasy IV: The After Years coming soon? You can click the link below to see it listed on the page, and it even has some info on it. Seems odd for EB to have it featured if it won't be out for awhile considering what the page is for.

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/landing/wiiware/
I mentioned it the page before ;) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5851104&postcount=359)

[Wolfkin]

These are good points, but I want to go to bed at a decent hour today.

I just want to say that it's more than Family Pirate Party, although would it have been so hard for Nintendo to say to the developer "You know, the last two Family games really sucked. Could you make this one suck a little less? Please?" It's hardly draconian for the publisher to ask developers not to stink up the place. Especially given their track record.
well how about the payment plan. I haven't care too much to look into it but isn't there a system where you only get paid when you sell X copies of your game? Family Pirate Party probably didn't sell very well if it really sells that bad they just won't get paid.

[Ryukahn]

I mentioned it the page before ;) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5851104&postcount=359)

I've known it was coming for quite some time. Was just pointing out that it might be here sooner rather than later due to it showing up on EBGames. ;)

Although that article is the first I've read of FFIV being released! :drool:

[Cao Cao]

There was an ad in Nintendo Power that said that they will be releasing FFIV: TAY (http://na.square-enix.com/ff4ay/) (The first episode, I think) on June 1st.
http://gonintendo.com/?p=81241

[Ryukahn]

It would seem I haven't kept up with the FF4TAY info. It's going to be released in episodes? Great news about the release date though, definitely something I'll be buying. Wonder if they'll release FF4 on SNES around that time too since folk may want to play both.

Edit: Site you linked says there is 9 episodes. That's gonna be pretty expensive no matter how you slice it. Hmm...

[Halo05]

Ugh. 9 episodes...

This may not be as great as I was hoping. I was always under the impression that the WiiWare version would be a one shot affair as opposed to the way it came out on cell phones.

[Cao Cao]

It would seem I haven't kept up with the FF4TAY info. It's going to be released in episodes? Great news about the release date though, definitely something I'll be buying. Wonder if they'll release FF4 on SNES around that time too since folk may want to play both.

Edit: Site you linked says there is 9 episodes. That's gonna be pretty expensive no matter how you slice it. Hmm...

SBCG4AP was 1000 points per episode (5 Episodes, $50 total), so ideally, to keep to that standard, FFIVTAY would need to be priced at 500 points per episode. Of course, this is Square-Enix we're talking about, so who knows.

[Ryukahn]

Ugh. 9 episodes...

This may not be as great as I was hoping. I was always under the impression that the WiiWare version would be a one shot affair as opposed to the way it came out on cell phones.

Yeah, I thought it would be one big game, and was ready to use 2000 points or so on it. I'll have to see how it is priced now before I know if I'll buy it, and how much content is in each episode.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got 1 VC game and 1 WiiWare game, Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure - SEGA Genesis/800 Points, and Swords & Soldiers - WiiWare/1000 Points.

[Cao Cao]

Swords & Soldiers got an 8.7 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/982/982994p1.html) (EC) from IGN.

After de Blob and now Swords & Soldiers, Ronimo Games is definitely a developer to watch. There is nothing else like this on WiiWare, and the production values are much higher than most other games on the service. Strategy fans should find their fix here – just don't expect as deep an experience as some of the better-known real-time strategy games on PC. Removing a dimension and making the gameplay side-scrolling was a great way to get this genre working on a console. Swords & Soldiers was built for Wii, and as such it plays very well on the system. Don't let this one pass you by -- it's one of the best console RTS games ever.

[Strell]

I don't know what this is, but I LIKE it (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1224181_1124.html). It's like Cho Aniki all over again. You are an insanely muscled dood (and in a few cases, a woman) and you have to run down a thief who took your protein supplements.

So if you don't like the sound of that, you might just want to give up on life now.

In other news, (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/story-11248-New-Adapter-Connects-Old-School-Controllers-to-the-Wii.html) a company is making a 3-in-1 retro adapter to allow NES/SNES/N64 controllers to be plugged directly into the system. Neat if you are into that sort of thing.

[foltzie]

I don't know what this is, but I LIKE it (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1224181_1124.html). It's like Cho Aniki all over again. You are an insanely muscled dood (and in a few cases, a woman) and you have to run down a thief who took your protein supplements.

So if you don't like the sound of that, you might just want to give up on life now.

Oh my.

[lilboo]

I don't know what this is, but I LIKE it (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1224181_1124.html). It's like Cho Aniki all over again. You are an insanely muscled dood (and in a few cases, a woman) and you have to run down a thief who took your protein supplements.

So if you don't like the sound of that, you might just want to give up on life now.

In other news, (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/story-11248-New-Adapter-Connects-Old-School-Controllers-to-the-Wii.html) a company is making a 3-in-1 retro adapter to allow NES/SNES/N64 controllers to be plugged directly into the system. Neat if you are into that sort of thing.

DO WANT.
And that's to both. I don't have any NES controllers...but I do have my SNES and N64 around!

[Strell]

Avast! There be a video of Muscle March in action available here. (http://kotaku.com/5255219/muscle-men-bikinis-wtf)

LET'S MUSCLE!

Oh yeah. Do yourself a favor and watch this video. It's hilarious. World of Golden Eggs (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=16736707)

[Cao Cao]

New FFIVTAY trailer, which confirms the June 1st date:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPaeiVqEDG4

And a Swords & Soldiers launch trailer for Europe:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49335.html

[crunchewy]

Avast! There be a video of Muscle March in action available here. (http://kotaku.com/5255219/muscle-men-bikinis-wtf)

LET'S MUSCLE!


Muscle March looks funny/fun, and it looks like the Wii version would be more fun then the arcade version just because you mimic the moves more directly, but there is no way in hell it will ever be brought here. Sigh.

Edit: but obviously this game needs to support 2 remote use, not just remote+nunchuck. No sign of that in the video, but maybe it's there? It doesn't matter anyway since it's not coming here.

[ratzombie]

Avast! There be a video of Muscle March in action available here. (http://kotaku.com/5255219/muscle-men-bikinis-wtf)

LET'S MUSCLE!


Holy crap, that is some weird shit. Clever gameplay though.

Me want.

[Inf^Shini]

Holy crap, that is some weird shit. Clever gameplay though.

Me want.
Yea, I stared at your Avatar after I read that ;)

[ratzombie]

Exactly. I like weird, which is why I want that game.

[lilboo]

Exactly. I like weird, which is why I want that game.

Is that why you were so attracted to me? :-k

[Mr. Beef]

Is that why you were so attracted to me? :-k
Maybe he thinks you're a snuggler.

[integralsmatic]

well japan just got Cyber Sled...if that gets released here...i am 100% definitley getting that.

edit:

i dont know if that has been posted.........i just saw the trailer on gametrailers.com

[evergoo]

Okay, I've been out of the loop for WiiWare since last year's World of Goo. A fellow Smasher just showed me Swords and Soldier which piques my interest. Any other games I should be looking out for within the 8.5 or above range?

I have yet to play World of Goo. Blame PSN and Smash. :lol:

[ratzombie]

The hell is wrong with you? Quit Smashin' and start Gooin', it's even part of your name for christ sake...

[Doomed]

Although I love World of Goo, I experienced some control issues on Wii. (IMO, it's not accurate enough) I beat it on Wii, but I skipped a few levels. On PC, I beat all of them.

[Wolfkin]

In other news, (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/story-11248-New-Adapter-Connects-Old-School-Controllers-to-the-Wii.html) a company is making a 3-in-1 retro adapter to allow NES/SNES/N64 controllers to be plugged directly into the system. Neat if you are into that sort of thing.
sounds interesting but i doubt it'll be cheap.

[Halo05]

Wow, after watching that trailer, FF IV TAY could not be more of a no-brainer for me. Maybe I'm a hypocrite but I'm buying it more or less regardless of cost.

[lilboo]

Went to Wal-mart and picked up some cheap SD cards. Pretty much for our new DSis..gotta love how SD cards are ass cheap these days.

ANYway. The SD card I was originally using (for Wii AND in my digital camera)..I want to use just as a digital camera card. I can't transfer my VC/WW games to another SD card, though, can I?

[Wolfkin]

what? why wouldn't you be able to do that. at the very least you should be able to transfer back to your wii and then to any other sd card?

[lilboo]

Ok, maybe I did something wrong. I copied the Wii folder in my SD card (one I use it for the Wii)..and copied it and pasted it into the new one...popped it in my Wii. Went to the SD menu and nothing loaded :-(

If I loaded the games onto the Wii, then into the new SD card..I'd have to do this one at a time..right? :-( There's no way to like.. load games in groups, right? :(

[The Crotch]

Although I love World of Goo, I experienced some control issues on Wii. (IMO, it's not accurate enough) I beat it on Wii, but I skipped a few levels. On PC, I beat all of them.
You, dear sir, are a vagina.

[Doomed]

You, dear sir, are a vagina.
:-( I even rated the "recommend me games." thread one star for you.

The sensor bar + batteries draining = inaccurate control compared to the mouse. My cursor got stuck way too many times while my tower was like "brb, falling" for me to want to finish all of them on Wii.

[lilboo]

Stop talking OVER me [-(
What's a sista to do???

LOL if I have to redownload all the games directly to the new sd card! Criiiiies!

[The Crotch]

:-( I even rated the "recommend me games." thread one star for you.

The sensor bar + batteries draining = inaccurate control compared to the mouse. My cursor got stuck way too many times while my tower was like "brb, falling" for me to want to finish all of them on Wii.
Heh. Reminds me of the first time I tried to beat that big-ass war golem in Metroid Prime 3 - the one in the Bryyo Leviathan. "Jesus that was hard!" I thought. But it wasn't hard. I was just on one bar for most (all?) of the fight.

[Cao Cao]

Ok, maybe I did something wrong. I copied the Wii folder in my SD card (one I use it for the Wii)..and copied it and pasted it into the new one...popped it in my Wii. Went to the SD menu and nothing loaded :-(

If I loaded the games onto the Wii, then into the new SD card..I'd have to do this one at a time..right? :-( There's no way to like.. load games in groups, right? :(

I just tested it out, and you should be able to use your PC to freely copy VC and WW games from one SD Card to another without any problems.

Well, after reading your post, there may be some fixable issues:
1) Be sure to format the new SD card with the official SD Card formatter (http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/). Sometimes, devices can have problems reading the card if it is improperly formatted. Obviously, back up the card's data if needed before doing this.

2) You mentioned in your post that you copied the "wii" folder to the root of your new SD card. This is the incorrect folder structure. The folder that is supposed to go in the root is the "private" folder, and the wii folder is supposed to go into the private folder. If your Wii is not detecting the games, then it is likely that incorrect folder structure is the culprit. Here's the correct structure:
\private\wii\title\(Bunch of folders containing games and saves)

It's not that difficult to fix, as you can just make a new folder named "private" (no quotes) on the root of the SD card, and copy the wii folder into it.

[lilboo]

Thanks!!
I'm going to try it out now since my BF is watching gay ass 10,000 BC and I have nothing else to do! I'll be sure to post in the next 30-45 minutes how I ended up erasing both SD cards and accidentally set my apartment on fire.

EDIT: Hey! I did it! :applause:

[pop311]

virtual console
the legend of zelda: Majora's mask (nintendo 64, 1 player, rated e for everyone - cartoon violence, 1,000 wii points™): Link™ must save the world! This time, he finds himself trapped in termina, an alternate version of hyrule that is doomed to destruction in just three short days. Link must race to recover the ocarina of time (which allows him to manipulate time in multiple ways), defeat challenging bosses in dungeons spread across termina and discover the key to the mystery of majora's mask. Along the way, he'll obtain new weapons and items and help other characters (some strangely familiar) in their everyday lives. In addition, link must use a wide assortment of masks scattered throughout termina, each with its own specific use or power. Never before have three days offered so much in the way of action, mind-boggling puzzles and depth. the legend of zelda: Majora's mask is an adventure unlike any other!

wiiware
crystal defenders r2 (square enix, 1 player, rated e for everyone - mild fantasy violence, 800 wii points): In crystal defenders r2, you must deploy various units, such as fencers and black mages, to stop waves of encroaching monsters from escaping the area with your party's crystals. There are many types of units to choose from: Some specialize in powerful short-range attacks, some wield far-reaching magicks and still others are equipped with bows, enabling them to bring down aerial foes. Deploy units in strategic locations to take full advantage of their traits. Each time an enemy breaches your defenses and reaches a map's exit, your party will lose crystals. When all your crystals are gone, the game is over. crystal defenders r2 offers several new, challenging maps containing multiple entrances and exits. It also introduces three varieties of power crystals, allowing you to enhance the abilities of your units, while new jobs, including flintlock and tinker, set the stage for even more complex strategies. Can you defend all the maps without losing a single crystal?

silver star chess (agetec, inc., 1-2 players, rated e for everyone - mild suggestive themes, 500 wii points): silver star chess has two modes: 1-player and 2-player. 1-player mode allows you to play a chess match against the computer opponent. 2-player mode allows you to play against another person. In 1-player mode, you can select one of five different computer opponents, as well as turn the background music off, adjust sound effects and access in-game help features. Also, during the match, you can redo your last move, save the game at any point or resign from the game. After the match has ended, you can review each move made during the match. While reviewing the match in this way, you can resume that match at any point.
Majooooooooooooooorrrrraaaaa!!!

[tsmvengy]

Yesssssssssssssssss

[Reality's Fringe]

Is it the GC version (ZeldaCE) with the smoothed out textures, or is it a straight port?

[Strell]

This is one hell of a week for digital distribution. Majora's Mask, PiCTOBiTS, half price Bionic Commando on XBLA.

[KingBroly]

Is it the GC version (ZeldaCE) with the smoothed out textures, or is it a straight port?

I've heard it's a lot better since it doesn't crash randomly.

[foltzie]

Time to sell my other Link collectors disk.

[lilboo]

Oh nice.
Wait.
Didn't that Crystal Defender's come out???? ::CONFUSED::

[Strell]

There's two. Round 1 (R1) and Round 2 (R2).

I don't know what the differences between the two are. :/

[lilboo]

:lol: I tried the R1 (I guess) demo on XBLA before. Really boring.

I never did play Majora's Mask. I'll wait for impressions here..and we'll see. Not ready for a Zelda type game at the moment. :-k

[Wolfkin]

good show Nintendo. With Majora's Mask we can't complain until at least Jun 8th
This is one hell of a week for digital distribution. Majora's Mask, PiCTOBiTS, half price Bionic Commando on XBLA.
and the PSN (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/05/14/bionic-commando-rearmed-reduced/)bro..

[Purple Flames]

I think I'll jump on MM since I was always concerned about the alleged crash issues that the Zelda Collector's Disk has.

[Strell]

and the PSN (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/05/14/bionic-commando-rearmed-reduced/)bro..

Thank you Wolfkin. I won't be keeping up with PSN too much until I've a reason to.

So good week for pretty much every game under the heartless sun. Hooray!

[Nohbdy]

PiCTO > Mask.

[Wolfkin]

well i was planning on playing it on my cube disc. i started once a long time ago. I'll probably save the money and keep that plan. after all I still don't have Super Metroid or Gradius yet.

[Strell]

after all I still don't have Super Metroid

Get the hell out of my thread.

[Gothic Walrus]

Majora's Mask? Really? :applause:

Get the hell out of my thread.
Guess I should be going too. :oops:

[BlueLobstah]

I never did play Majora's Mask. I'll wait for impressions here..and we'll see. Not ready for a Zelda type game at the moment. :-k


I'm not a big fan of Majora's Mask, but I'm happy for everyone else. The PR didn't really mention it, but I guess this is in celebration of the 300th title on VC?

[Sir_Fragalot]

Wait the VC has a good game again, wtf :lol:. Yay for MM.

[pygmy carnotaur]

I may have to get Majora's Mask at some point, but not right now. I've played the game enough times as it is. It is one of the best Zelda games though, tied with Wind Waker for my favorite of the 3D Zeldas. The only issue the game has is that, just like WW, it needed a few more dungeons. But it makes up for it by having Stone Tower Temple, which is pretty much my favorite Zelda dungeon ever, and by having the best sidequests in the series.

[KingBroly]

It's up

Majora's Mask is 250 blocks

[tiredfornow]

One good game every other month sounds like a really awesome way to do things. Keep it up, Nintendo!

[lilboo]

:lol:

I'm more excited JUST to have another N64 title available. How in 3.5 years, there's only like..16-17 N64 games?!

[tiredfornow]

The last N64 game was back in October or November. #-o

[KingBroly]

Whatever you do, don't try to save at the eagle statue the first thing you do when you are Link.

The game crashed on me hard when I tried to do that.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Well I'm glad MM will be out there when I am ready for it. I keep going back to Ocarina to try to finish it only to leave it for months and completely forget where I am or what I need to do next.

[Wolfkin]

Well I'm glad MM will be out there when I am ready for it. I keep going back to Ocarina to try to finish it only to leave it for months and completely forget where I am or what I need to do next.that's happened to me 4-5 times with Link to the Past. I'm not certain I've ever finished the game, but every time I play I think I'm past where I left off and suddenly I remember parts of it.

Get the hell out of my thread.am I not already shamed enough.

[Inf^Shini]

Whatever you do, don't try to save at the eagle statue the first thing you do when you are Link.

The game crashed on me hard when I tried to do that.
The VC version still crashes?
I hated that it took forever until you could actually save the game.

Well I'm glad MM will be out there when I am ready for it. I keep going back to Ocarina to try to finish it only to leave it for months and completely forget where I am or what I need to do next.
I always hate when that happens.

[007]

Awesome, can finally play through a cleaned up MM that *doesn't* randomly freeze.

Bought.

[gunm]

YES! SILVER STAR CHESS!

j/k, I may pick up MM. I never cared for the blurry, blobby-ass polygons of N64, but a good game is a good game, and I gots ta do sum ting wit all deez useless Wii points! :p

[Yaxley]

Has anyone actually played Crystal Defenders R2? The description makes it sound like it could be fun, but I haven't seen any reviews anywhere, so I'm hesitant to try it out.

[Mr. Beef]

Majora's Mask...bitchin.

[tiredfornow]

Has anyone actually played Crystal Defenders R2? The description makes it sound like it could be fun, but I haven't seen any reviews anywhere, so I'm hesitant to try it out.If its anything like Round 1.. it stinks.

[Halo05]

There's a demo on 360 if you have one around. I think they're the same game on both formats, just split up differently.

It was... okay.

I'll probably get MM. I only have the allegedly glitchy collector's version and I don't want to mess around with freezing and all that noise.

My friend had the original version back when it came out. It was fun because we had been friends as little kids and used to spend our days trying to beat Zelda 1 and 2. When MM came out we were both 20 or 21 and it was sort of our last "kid" thing to do together. A couple years later, I joined the Marine Corps and he moved away. I haven't talked to him in ages. *sniffle*

[jonlubbe]

There's a demo on 360 if you have one around. I think they're the same game on both formats, just split up differently.

It was... okay.


Also demo available on the JP PSN store if you have a ps3, in english.

[crunchewy]

The crashing problem when saving - is that just in the emulated versions or also in the real cartridge? I've got he real N64 game waiting in the wings....

[Cao Cao]

Has anyone actually played Crystal Defenders R2? The description makes it sound like it could be fun, but I haven't seen any reviews anywhere, so I'm hesitant to try it out.

From what IGN has said about the first round, the Wii Crystal Defenders is the worst one to get. With the Wiiware version, Square-Enix split the original game into three chunks at 800 points each.

As a comparison point, the entire original iPod/iPhone version is only $8, so to get the same amount of content on Wii, you would need to spend three times as much.

[io]

OK, so I was browsing the IGN review app on my iPhone today and came across some WiiWare game I'd never heard of that sounded pretty good: Swords & Soldiers. The reviewer compared it to Grim Grimoire which is one of the few obscure fantasy-themed PS2 games (it's not an RPG so I didn't want to use that term) that I have actually played despite the fact that I keep buying/collecting them.

Well, I just got my Wii back from Nintendo after having the memory go flaky on me in January. I didn't want to deal with the hassle so I just recently called them and while they agreed to fix it for no charge (as it is well out of warranty) they ROYALLY screwed me because when I sent it to them the game saves were intact as I could play anything I tried (most importantly SSBB and Animal Crossing which I couldn't otherwise back up to the SD card). I just couldn't manage them any more (data management utility screen showed nothing and then froze upon exit). Well, it came back WIPED CLEAN - the rat bastards. I could have done that :bomb:. It's a damn good thing they didn't charge me or I'd be in full rage mode now. As it is, they are going to get a nasty letter from me. I would have preferred they do nothing to it and I would have gotten a second one. It would have been well worth $250 to maintain all those hours put into SSBB, AC, Endless Ocean, Elebits, Mario Sluggers, etc...

Anyway, side rant there - sorry. Point was, I decided (while I was redownloading channels) to look for this awesome new game and it isn't up there at all. The full IGN review says nothing about it (it seems to indicate it is available now). But it appears from some comments that it is not available in the U.S. yet. Anyway, I have no idea if this has been discussed as I have been so completely out of the loop but I just wanted to throw it out there.

Of course, I'm not sure why I'm doing that at all since it was my intention never to download another game (as World of Goo is what messed up my system) and recommend to anyone and everyone that I can reach that they also avoid downloading anything and for that matter playing anything on the Wii that doesn't allow a copy of the save file to the SD card. This corrupt memory issue has happened to more than a few people and it is pretty pathetic that it seems they made no attempt to save my data despite it being good (for the most part). I am really disappointed in Nintendo and don't really see the point of investing any more time in any of their flagship games (as invariably it is these that you can't copy the save files for). It is sad, really, as I've defended them on CAG in the past...

[BlueLobstah]

I know hindsight is 20/20, but there is a way to copy saves with homebrew. I've had to do that before when trying to move a roommate's Rock Band save from my Wii to his.

The main reason behind why they do it, is because of their backwards online system. Due to the fact that wi-fi codes are tied to the system, moving around saves with online capabilities have the potential to screw up things. Yet these are the same games that we're likely to have the most time invested in when things come around (i.e. SSBB, Animal Crossing, etc.) Had Nintendo a correctly implemented system, we wouldn't be having problems like this not to mention the retarded Wii "friend codes". Given Nintendo's console history, their failure rate is low compared to everything else, but it is still no excuse for things like this.

I'm not going to say I won't buy into their next system, whenever that may be, but I will be very disappointed if they don't "get it" in regards to online and storage the next time around. They didn't really have a good excuse with the Wii, and they most certainly will not have an excuse with it's successor.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. With the kind of money and research Nintendo has backing their consoles, it's a real crying shame they can't implement online correctly and alleviate things like this.

[Wolfkin]

The crashing problem when saving - is that just in the emulated versions or also in the real cartridge? I've got he real N64 game waiting in the wings....wow. You know how I know your backlog is too big? It includes CARTS!!

I know hindsight is 20/20, but there is a way to copy saves with homebrew. I've had to do that before when trying to move a roommate's Rock Band save from my Wii to his.

The main reason behind why they do it, is because of their backwards online system. Due to the fact that wi-fi codes are tied to the system, moving around saves with online capabilities have the potential to screw up things. Yet these are the same games that we're likely to have the most time invested in when things come around (i.e. SSBB, Animal Crossing, etc.) Had Nintendo a correctly implemented system, we wouldn't be having problems like this not to mention the retarded Wii "friend codes". Given Nintendo's console history, their failure rate is low compared to everything else, but it is still no excuse for things like this.

I'm not going to say I won't buy into their next system, whenever that may be, but I will be very disappointed if they don't "get it" in regards to online and storage the next time around. They didn't really have a good excuse with the Wii, and they most certainly will not have an excuse with it's successor.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. With the kind of money and research Nintendo has backing their consoles, it's a real crying shame they can't implement online correctly and alleviate things like this.word. If it wasn't already annoying having to have one friend code per game it also messes up the saves. I've never moved a save to SD so I don't know how big the saves are but I worry about the theoretical future when you have so many saves and GH/RB songs you can't store anything else on your measly 512MB.

[tiredfornow]

From what IGN has said about the first round, the Wii Crystal Defenders is the worst one to get. With the Wiiware version, Square-Enix split the original game into three chunks at 800 points each.

As a comparison point, the entire original iPod/iPhone version is only $8, so to get the same amount of content on Wii, you would need to spend three times as much.Ahaha, now that really sucks. 8-)

[ChibiJosh]

Of course they had to release Majora's Mask, the week after I move and don't have internet for a week. At least I'll have something to look forward to when my internet is reconnected.

[ratzombie]

I haven't played Majora's Mask. 8-)

[gaxur]

I ... don't have internet for a week.


Wait.


What.

[ratzombie]

Library? Internet cafe? Lots of options available to gettin' online.

[lilboo]

... He's supposed to hook his Wii up at the Library or an internet cafe just to download Majora's Mask? RE-TAWD!

[Wolfkin]

Wait.


What.good catch dude

[KingBroly]

Majora's Mask still remains my favorite Zelda title, if only because it's so different. Punch Out distracted me today, but tomorrow I'll put time into Majora's Mask again.

It's also the only Zelda game where you can fight the bosses over again!

[ratzombie]

... He's supposed to hook his Wii up at the Library or an internet cafe just to download Majora's Mask? RE-TAWD!
Oh shutup, you know what I'm referring to.

[lilboo]

:grouphug:

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Of course, I'm not sure why I'm doing that at all since it was my intention never to download another game (as World of Goo is what messed up my system) and recommend to anyone and everyone that I can reach that they also avoid downloading anything and for that matter playing anything on the Wii that doesn't allow a copy of the save file to the SD card. This corrupt memory issue has happened to more than a few people and it is pretty pathetic that it seems they made no attempt to save my data despite it being good (for the most part). I am really disappointed in Nintendo and don't really see the point of investing any more time in any of their flagship games (as invariably it is these that you can't copy the save files for). It is sad, really, as I've defended them on CAG in the past...

Wow, overreact much? I would be super-pissed if Nintendo deleted my saves as well, but to say that you will no longer download any games or play a game which doesn't allow you to copy a save to an SD card just because of a rare memory glitch is pretty funny to me.

Just because your Wii started to flake when playing World of Goo doesn't mean that it was the culprit. My 360 died when playing Skate 2 but I don't blame Skate 2 for the failure.

If I used your rationale, I would stop playing EA games since they could potentially RROD my 360 and I'm not willing to take that risk again.

You definitely have a right to be pissed at Nintendo for the save file wipe, I just think you are taking things a little too far with the whole boycott DLC thing.

[ChibiJosh]

Wait.


What.

I posted that from my iPhone. Although, I did hook up my modem/router today, only to find out that they haven't shut off the internet from the last tennant.

[RelentlessRolento]

Nice:

http://www.offworld.com/2009/05/innex-retro-adapter-activates.html

http://www.offworld.com/gimages/retro_adapter.jpg

[Halo05]

Ha, it looks like a baby N64.

If I had anything but an NES controller around here I'd be tempted.

[crunchewy]

Wow, overreact much? I would be super-pissed if Nintendo deleted my saves as well, but to say that you will no longer download any games or play a game which doesn't allow you to copy a save to an SD card just because of a rare memory glitch is pretty funny to me.

The inability to copy/backup save files is the problem, not that there was this rare glitch and that they wiped the memory as a "repair". Well, that was a problem, but had he been able to keep backups he could have likely recovered at least some of his save files. There are very few games that allow you to copy their save files, for whatever reason, and that does indeed suck.

I have considered hacking to be able to make backups of my save files, but haven't actually done it. Now I don't know if it's possible to install the homebrew menu any more, or at least not yet. I know that with the last system update you could no longer use Twilight Princess for this. I haven't really checked since then, though. Maybe there is a new way.

[Inf^Shini]

Ha, it looks like a baby N64.

If I had anything but an NES controller around here I'd be tempted.
Haha, same here.

I was like "Oh Cool!" then I looked around and noticed I only have NES controllers :-P

[vherub]

io-

A good site for wiiware info is nintendolife.com
they have a great review of swords, but no eta on the us release date.

[Wolfkin]

well I do have a pair of SNES controllers and i think one NES and it's a lot cuter than I pictured it in my head.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

The inability to copy/backup save files is the problem, not that there was this rare glitch and that they wiped the memory as a "repair". Well, that was a problem, but had he been able to keep backups he could have likely recovered at least some of his save files. There are very few games that allow you to copy their save files, for whatever reason, and that does indeed suck.

I have considered hacking to be able to make backups of my save files, but haven't actually done it. Now I don't know if it's possible to install the homebrew menu any more, or at least not yet. I know that with the last system update you could no longer use Twilight Princess for this. I haven't really checked since then, though. Maybe there is a new way.

I agree that the inability to copy certain save files is dumb on Nintendo's part. I just think that boycotting the VC or WiiWare is overkill.

And you can install HBC on 4.0 systems now through a new exploit called bannerbomb which simply runs off an SD card.

[007]

Hmm... the adapter provides a dilemma... play Majora's Mask now, or wait until June and play it with an N64 controller?

Decisions, decisions.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got two WiiWare games, Crystal Defenders - 800 Points, and Penguins & Friends - Hey! That's My Fish! - 800 Points.

[lilboo]

:rofl:

[RelentlessRolento]

yo boo, they need to port this to Wii for ya. This is a compliment so don't take this the wrong way ;)

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49578.html

[lilboo]

:rofl: "BFFs"

[EXStrike]

NINTENDO DOWNLOAD: POP-POWERED ADVENTURES BUBBLE UP THROUGH THE CLAY

May 25, 2009
With summer just around the corner, this Monday finds an especially hot mix of downloadable game offerings for the WiiWare™ and Nintendo DSiWare™ services, as well as for the Virtual Console™. Nintendo DSi™ users can become world-famous pop stars or use a new photo application to view their pictures in interesting new ways. Wii™ owners can transform into bubble-bursting dragons or hunt for melons on a mysterious island. And be sure to check out this week's Virtual Console debut, which features clay figures and stop-action animation to create a comedic twist to the street fighting genre.

Nintendo DSiWare

American Popstar: Road to Celebrity (Gameloft, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone – Comic Mischief, 800 Nintendo DSi Points™): This is your enthralling and interactive success story as a young hopeful in the music milieu. The adventure begins when you get the chance to audition at your Hollywood high school. But the road to celebrity isn't an easy one: Your secret crush is also auditioning, and so is your evil rival. This unique mix of music-themed gaming and social adventure will let you show your talents to the world, take your best photo with the Nintendo DSi system's built-in camera and meet lots of people who may help you build your career. You're about to become the greatest pop star in the world. Talk, share activities and be friendly or unfriendly with numerous characters. Customize your character's name and appearance, and develop skills and personality through your actions. Four musical mini-games include Guitar, Singing, Drums and Dance. Record your voice, take your own photos and sign autographs.

Photo Clock (Nintendo, 1 player, 200 Nintendo DSi Points): Photo Clock allows you to enjoy the photos taken with your Nintendo DSi Camera application in a new way. Watch your images appear on the top screen of your Nintendo DSi system according to your chosen display settings (specific photos or all photos; in order or randomly displayed). Select from either an analog or digital clock, using the system's internal clock or offsetting the time however you like. Program up to three alarms – with snooze functionality for those who need it – and assign them a preset ring or use a sound created in Nintendo DSi Sound. Experience all the enjoyment of a photo album while ensuring you won't lose track of the time.

WiiWare

BUBBLE BOBBLE Plus! (TAITO, 1-4 players, Rated E for Everyone – Comic Mischief, 600 Wii Points™): BUBBLE BOBBLE Plus! is a simple yet exhilarating action game where you control the bubble-blowing dragons Bub and Bob, trapping enemies in bubbles and then popping them. You can play all 100 of the Standard Mode rounds, which faithfully recreate the nostalgic arcade game, or try 100 new Arrange Mode rounds, which allow up to four players to play on stages with exciting new features such as new enemies and stage layouts. There are also Super Mode rounds for you to enjoy. Determine the true ending by solving puzzles hidden on each stage to defeat the final boss. In Ranking Mode, players with broadband Internet access can use the Nintendo® Wi-Fi Connection service to compete with players from around the world. Enjoy an additional 100 rounds and face off against new boss characters by purchasing “Expert Mode 1” and “Expert Mode 2” add-on content.

ADVENTURE ISLAND® The Beginning (Hudson Entertainment, 1-2 players, Rated E for Everyone – Cartoon Violence and Comic Mischief, 800 Wii Points): ADVENTURE ISLAND The Beginning comes to the Wii console with exciting new skills and elements. Learn how to use new skills while exploring Adventure Island from coast to coast. Search for Golden Melons hidden throughout the stages and mini-games. When obtaining Golden Melons, you'll be able to purchase various items to help you on your adventure. These items can increase your attack power or enable you to reach places you couldn't get to before. Fulfill certain requirements while playing in any of the modes to achieve a “Master Higgins Feat” and you'll be awarded a Master Higgins costume.

Virtual Console

Clay Fighter™ (Sega Genesis, 1-2 players, Rated T for Teen – Comic Mischief and Mild Cartoon Violence, 800 Wii Points): In this zany 2-D fighter, it's just another day for a humble traveling circus troupe when a meteor crash-lands in their camp. The otherworldly orb, made entirely out of interstellar clay, contaminates all the circus employees, turning them into bizarrely superpowered versions of themselves. Choose from among the unique clay creatures, such as Bonker, the cheerfully manic clown, or Blue Suede Goo, the mild-mannered Elvis impersonator turned violent vocalist. Master their “Claytalities,” like the operatic Helga's deadly high note and Bad Mr. Frosty's fists of snowball fury!

Nintendo adds new titles to the Nintendo DSi Shop™ and the Wii™ Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time on Mondays. Users with broadband Internet access can redeem Wii Points or Nintendo DSi Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel. Nintendo DSi Points can be purchased in the Nintendo DSi Shop. A Nintendo Points Card™ can be purchased at retail locations. All points from one Nintendo Points Card must be redeemed in either the Nintendo DSi Shop or the Wii Shop Channel. They are not transferable and cannot be divided between the two systems.

Remember that both Wii and Nintendo DSi feature parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other features, visit Wii.com (http://wii.com/) or NintendoDSi.com (http://nintendodsi.com/).


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[foltzie]

Clay Fighter eh? I have fond memories of that pile of silliness.

[Halo05]

2 non-shovelware Wiiware games in one week?!

I didn't want the apocalypse to happen this year!

[ratzombie]

Hell yeah, Bubble Bobble Plus!

[SL4IN]

I have some interest in Adventure Island The Beginning. Perhaps I shall do some research.

Edit: No mountable dinosaurs makes me kind of sad.

[vlv723]

Clay Fighter= Best Title Song Ever.

"Clay Fighter ! Clay Clay Fighter!
Come on fight them if you dare"

[gunm]

Bleh. Clay Fighter was really turrible.

[JEKKI]

damn, Bubble Bobble and Adventure Island... that's crazy!!!

btw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Ku1i-LLZ4

spoilers but... the music in BB arrange mode in crazy good!!

[Cao Cao]

Clay Fighter= Best Title Song Ever.

"Clay Fighter ! Clay Clay Fighter!
Come on fight them if you dare"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsTJh0fSh6Q

EDIT: It turns out that the version released on the VC this week is the Genesis version, which does not have the above theme song.

[ratzombie]

damn, Bubble Bobble and Adventure Island... that's crazy!!!

btw...

spoilers but... the music in BB arrange mode in crazy good!!
Nice. 8-)

[vherub]

grabbing both bubble bobble and adventure island

[lilboo]

Saw the vide of Adventure Island on the Nintendo Channel.. eww! It looks like A.S.S. in 3D. :puke:
Bubble Bobble, however, will be played later on this evening.

[Strell]

Bubble Bobble, however, will be played later on this evening.

Yes, but will you be getting the game?

[lilboo]

Probably next week \\:D/

[Wolfkin]

hecky naw clay fighter. I used to go hardcore for that game. I'm not a fan of H2H fighting games but I'm a sucker for the goofy ones.

[Cao Cao]

Japan got a new channel today. The Catering Channel:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/05/25/finally-you-can-order-pizza-hut-with-your-wii/

The Catering Channel allows Japanese Wii users to order food for home delivery. Notable among the available restaurant options are Pizza Hut, sushi, bento boxes, Chinese food, and KFC.

[tiredfornow]

Japan got a new channel today. The Catering Channel:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/05/25/finally-you-can-order-pizza-hut-with-your-wii/

The Catering Channel allows Japanese Wii users to order food for home delivery. Notable among the available restaurant options are Pizza Hut, sushi, bento boxes, Chinese food, and KFC.#-o

I hope we get that soon.

[dmunkee]

How is it that Japan always one ups America with opprotunities to be fatter and lazier? The Mega Mac, pre-buttered loaves of bread, and now being able to order food from a videogame system? C'mon America, we can do better than this.

On topic: When I get my Wii back, I'm defnitely downloading Bubble Bobble. Sounds like they finally came up with a modern release that'll actually be good.

[StarKnightX]

Japan got a new channel today. The Catering Channel:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/05/25/finally-you-can-order-pizza-hut-with-your-wii/

The Catering Channel allows Japanese Wii users to order food for home delivery. Notable among the available restaurant options are Pizza Hut, sushi, bento boxes, Chinese food, and KFC.

Although it seems highly unlikely we'll end up getting this channel over here , I could potentially see nintendo working out some kind of deal with companies that already offer online ordering for items (Papa Johns , Dominos , Pizza Hut) to offer something similar over here.

[MisterModest]

This week, Europe got 1 VC Arcade game and 1 WiiWare game, Space Harrier - VC Arcade/800 Points, and Fish'em All - WiiWare/800 Points.

[Cao Cao]

The Japanese VC games for June have been announced
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/vc/lineup.html

Famicom
Tantei Jinguji Saburo: Toki no Sugiyuku mamani... (The fourth game in the Jinguji Saburo/Jake Hunter series)
Final Fantasy II

Super Famicom
Super Wagyan Land
Super Mario Kart

Virtual Console Arcade
Altered Beast
Hopping Mappy
Golden Axe

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Thoughts:
Super Mario Kart is clearly the big VC release for June in Japan. However, I cannot help but think that this list seems a bit... light when compared the last few months for Japan. Even stranger is that three of the games on this list (Altered Beast, Hopping Mappy, Super Wagyan Land), nearly half the list, are set for release next week. Some possibilities spring to mind:
A) Nintendo is comfortable enough with FFII and SMK.
B) Plenty of Wiiware releases planned for Japan in June to fill the void.
C) Something else... Or nothing at all.

[crunchewy]

Maybe it means they are planning to release a ton of stuff in the US instead. Well, one can hope, anyway. :)

[soonersfan60]

I will definitely buy Hopping Mappy if it comes over here !

What is the "success" rate of that type of game making it to N.A.?

[lordwow]

I can't wait for Super Mario Kart, that's been probably my biggest want for a while.

[foltzie]

I can't wait for Super Mario Kart, that's been probably my biggest want for a while.

Feathers for everyone!

[Cao Cao]

According to Hudson's VC site (http://vc-pce.com/usa/e/index.html), SimEarth (Turbo CD) is set for a release outside of Japan sometime in June.

This is how next Monday for the US seems to be shaping up so far:
DSiWare
Mighty Flip Champs

WiiWare
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (Episode 1)
Texas Hold 'em Tournament (Source (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=84333))

Virtual Console is the only unknown right now.

[EXStrike]

So, it's 9AM EDT and still no sign of the PR.

Pre-E3 megaton!?!?!?

[KingBroly]

Destructoid has it up

Mighty Flip Champs (DSi) for 800
FFIV: The After Years for 800
Texas Hold 'Em for 500
Boulder Dash (C64) for 500

Remember that it's only Episode 1 of 9 for FFIV: The After Years, so if you want all 9, that's $72 over time

[Arakias]

ouch on the FFIV: AY . . . but I guess its cool its out, I didnt even know it was out this early in the summer.

[tiredfornow]

72 bucks? :rofl:
So, it's 9AM EDT and still no sign of the PR.

Pre-E3 megaton!?!?!?Yeah. Uh huh.

[soonersfan60]

I wonder if they'll release the episodes now over a few months, then put together a compilation disc of them all for a retail release (around the holidays).

[crunchewy]

Remember that it's only Episode 1 of 9 for FFIV: The After Years, so if you want all 9, that's $72 over time

Hmm, though that presumes that the followups will be 800 points each. It's possible the subsequent episodes will be add-on "levels" that require the first episode, but cost less. Wishful thinking?

However, I wasn't enamored in the slightest with Final Fantasy X, which is the only FF game I've ever played, so I'm not sure I'm interested anyway. But I have to presume that the old-school FF games have much less obnoxious/dumb/boring story to them, and that has to be considered a plus. Yes?