View Full Version : Tales of Graces - Out in Japan, while everyone else waits for the fans
Cao Cao
04-10-2009, 05:52 PM
In this title, a new RPG exclusively for the Wii, you play as Asbel Lhant from the Lhant Territory of Windol Country; Asbel apparently suffered a loss in his past that makes him inclined to obtain enough strength to protect those around him. The combat system is called the "Style Shift Linear Battle System," which as the name implies, lets you shift between Asbel's different sword styles in battle.
Trailers:
Trailer 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgSKILwHb94)
Trailer 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb0QdfOp_Mw)
Trailer 3 @ TGS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1M-dasxSpg)
Gameplay trailer @ TGS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULsLr1Z8JQ)
Intro video (http://zoome.jp/togmovie/diary/11/)
Detailed profile and some interview info from RPGMonkey (http://rpgmonkey.blogspot.com/2009/04/tales-of-magazine-news.html) (2 (http://rpgmonkey.blogspot.com/2009/06/famitsu.html)):
Graces (interview with Baba)
-The game is a compilation of his work so far.
-Possibly the longest game in the series, his guess is 60-70 hours
-He was surprised at the battles.
The idea behind Style Shift seems to be that you can set skills of both styles to the A and B buttons, then switch between them accordingly in battle.
Asbel Lhant - Eldest son of Aston, the Lord of the Lhant territory, which is located between the countries of Windol and Fendel. Became a knight due to his desire to protect everyone around him. Uses sheathed-sword and drawn-sword techniques.
Sophie - Asbel encountered her while he was fighting, and she has lost her memory, so Asbel gave her the name Sophie. Uses Martial Arts and Regeneration magic
Cheria Barnes - The granddaughter of Asbel's butler and a possible love interest. She specializes in throwing knives and Holy magic.
Hubert Ozwell - Asbel's serious younger brother. Uses a double-bladed sword, along with twin pistols.
Pascal - A young genius engineer who wields a Gun-Staff and Glyph magic.
Malik Caesars - Military instructor who uses a remote-controlled Boomerang-Blade, and Attack magic.
Richard - Prince of Windol and a childhood friend of Asbel. Uses a Rapier and magic.
Once again, RPGMonkey (http://rpgmonkey.blogspot.com/2009/10/skitsstatus-pics.html) does a great job explaining the game's mechanics:
Styles
Asbel: Style A=Sheathed Sword, Style B=Drawn Sword
Sophie: Style A=Martial Arts, Style B=Magic
Cheria: Style A=Throwing Knives, Style B=Magic
Hubert: Style A=Twin Blade, Style B=Guns/Magic
Pascal: Style A=Staff/Rifle, Style B=Magic
Malik: Style A=Blade, Style B=Magic
Richard: Style A=Sword, Style B=Magic/Etc.
Style A is the flashy stuff. Style B has high power and rapid hits.
Every character has a certain amount of Style A artes, one for each slot. Asbel, Sophie, and Hubert have 13. Cheria, Malik, and Pascal have 10. Richard is still unknown. The artes in these slots are not interchangeable (that or it's something unlocked later). A CC 4 arte stays a CC 4 arte and can't be moved to CC 2.
Style A works differently, and it's actually quite similar to the "Base Arte->Arcane Arte" system. You have four tiers, based on CC consumption, which are CC 1, CC 2, CC 3, and CC 4. Like the classic system, Style A artes have a strict order in which they can be used. You use a CC 1 arte first, then a CC 2, then a CC 3, then a CC 4 arte. Should you have the CC left over to use another, you go back to CC 2 and start again from there.
There is only one CC 1 arte, and it applies to all four directions with the analog stick. but how the character uses the CC 1 arte changes depending on the direction/position you have the stick in. Basically, every character's CC 1 arte is Tales of Graces's version of the "normal attack", it's just in the form of an arte instead.
After the CC 1 arte, you go to CC 2, and you are able to use any of the four (or three) artes in that rank, provided you have enough CC. The same goes for CC 3, and CC 4.
Style B works more traditionally. You have the same four positions as Style A, except that you are free to add any arte you choose to these directions. Of course, this implies that you're getting a good deal more than just 10-13 artes to use. I assume this system works more the AR-LMBS of Hearts and Destiny, and style B artes can linked in any order and as many times as your CC will allow you to.
Critical Gauge
In Graces, you have something called a critical gauge. Unlike Tales of Destiny, your CC doesn't increase when you recharge it. Instead, it recharges to the same number, and to increase it you have to max out the critical gauge. You fill the critical gauge through attacking the enemy, evading attacks, and defending against attacks, but keep in mind that it also decreases by being hit. Once you max out the CC gauge, you gain one CC, and you also get a critical hit.
Like Tales of Destiny, each character has a minimum CC and a maximum CC. You start out a fight at minimum CC. For example, Asbel's CC is 8~11 (minimum~maximum). When the fight starts, he starts out at 8 CC. As he fights, he maxes out the CC gauge, until he reaches his maximum of 11 CC. Chances are that once he maxes out the gauge again at 11 CC, like in ToD, his CC will restart back to the minimum and you have to go through the process over again.
Arles Break/Rise
Arles Break/Rise are basically new concepts, designed so that some balance issues can be fixed, but also to give battles a little twist.
The Arles Break gauge, which is the red one, is filled by fighting. As you attack the enemy, the gauge fills and Arles Break activates when it's full. During Arles Break, the critical gauge will neither fill nor drop. This serves as a temporary delay from reaching maximum CC, but on the other hand, if you're at maximum CC already, it also serves as a method of keeping your character at maximum CC more easily.
Arles Rise, which is the blue gauge, is filled by doing combos with party members. Once the gauge is full, press the L button and Arles Rise activates. For a short time you appear to have infinite CC. Also, when it activates you have a gauge, which can probably be taken to certain levels, as it's only at "1" in the demo. This gauge is what allows you to use a Blast Calibur (fancy name for a Mystic Arte/Hi Ougi). Presumably you'll also be able to use a stronger BC in the final version at higher levels. This serves to fix the issue of pulling off these attacks being too easy and simple in Tales of Destiny (and several other Tales games for that matter).
Around Step
Around Step is used for dodging attacks. Characters are on a 360 degree plane around the targeted enemy in Tales of Graces, similar to 3D Zelda games with you lock onto an enemy.
If you properly evade or counterattack an enemy, you can recover some CC back. Keep in mind that you can also use Around Step inbetween linking attacks (we can call this a "cancel").
joshofstl
04-10-2009, 10:09 PM
It's nice to see a mothership Tales title headed to Wii. Dawn of the New World was okay, but it never really felt like a true Tales title. This, on the other hand, has promise.
After a couple of rather disappointing RPG years for Wii, we're finally seeing some glimmers of hope -- Tales of Graces, FF:CC title that looks interesting, Arc Rise Fantasia, and the far-off hope of Dragon Quest X...
Ryukahn
04-11-2009, 09:59 AM
So is this going to be a solo adventure? I haven't seen anything that shows it's a party based battle system. Really interested in it, but hoping it's party based.
If its not party based that's too bad, that's what I always loved about the Tales games were that you could play it with 3 friends.
Cao Cao
04-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Someone at GameFAQs pointed out this slide that Namco-Bandai showed:
If you look closely on the right screenshot, you can see a humanoid character fighting a lizard monster while Asbel is fighting the flying monster.
bjstucker
04-13-2009, 08:46 PM
I might have to pull out my Wii for this one if this comes anywhere close to how amazing Vesperia is. I didn't really care too much for Symphonia 2, so we will have to see.
Dr Mario Kart
04-13-2009, 09:34 PM
Winter more than likely means early in the new year though. It doesnt say Winter 2009. It says This Winter.
Cao Cao
06-17-2009, 06:12 PM
New Famitsu article is out, revealing a second playable character:
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/14726_428050_122_525lo.jpg
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/14733_428310_122_1100lo.jpg
As this 1Up translation (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174827) says, Sophie is an amnesiac that Asbel finds and names. While Asbel is a strict melee fighter with sword attacks and artes, Sophie follows the Marta style by using martial arts for basic attacks and having a supply of healing artes. Hideo Baba also plugs the Style Shift system a bit, saying that it would increase the depth of characters and reduce the repetitiveness of battles.
soonersfan60
06-18-2009, 12:05 AM
Does anyone else think 60-70 hours is too long?
'Cube Daddy
06-18-2009, 10:24 AM
Does anyone else think 60-70 hours is too long?
I think this depends on how engaging the story is. If it keeps you up at night thinking about the world, characters and what you need to do next, then no. If it's a chore to grind through, then yes.
KingBroly
06-18-2009, 12:30 PM
Hey, Vesperia took me 90 hours to beat. I don't know how long it took other people to beat, but I imagine I was 10-15 hours over the average time.
Draekon
06-18-2009, 12:41 PM
Hey, Vesperia took me 90 hours to beat. I don't know how long it took other people to beat, but I imagine I was 10-15 hours over the average time.
My first playthrough took about 40 hours, doing most stuff. My second run took around 25 hours, doing everything. My third, the achievement speed run, is in mid-process because I loaned it out and never picked it back up but I think it won't last more than 17 if I ever get back to it.
KingBroly
06-18-2009, 06:06 PM
I messed around a did a ton of skits, though. Like...every skit that popped up, I did. I also got every corner of the map, every big beast, and I decided to spend an extra 10 hours on just running the thing so I could get the 100 hours achievement. I also went for every Secret Mission (still don't have 23 yet) which was a major, major chore, especially 17. God I hate that one so much.
The last dungeon confused me so much. I think I missed about 2/3 of what was actually in there.
Ryukahn
06-20-2009, 12:03 PM
Good news on the second character being revealed. Hopefully that means it's a party based system.
Cao Cao
06-20-2009, 05:31 PM
A shaky-cam video of the ToG trailer at the "Tales of" Festival was uploaded to Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtPnzDrp4Sc
Being a shaky-cam, the quality is low and the sound is difficult to hear, but there's a ton of gameplay footage in this trailer, showing some features.
- Party-based system is confirmed, as some scenes show Asbel and Sophie fighting together.
- A new character, a red-haired girl, is briefly shown in the trailer with Asbel and Sophie. It's likely that this is an as-of-yet-unnamed third party member.
- Style Shift is shown, along with what looks like some sort of countering system.
Ryukahn
06-20-2009, 06:57 PM
Sweet, I liked what I saw from that trailer. For those wanting to see the party battling, that starts around 1:44 of the video. Thanks for that video Cao Cao!
Cao Cao
06-22-2009, 03:33 PM
Direct feed of the second trailer was uploaded to Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9AJK4SEfmI
Ryukahn
06-22-2009, 05:53 PM
Thanks for the high quality video! Assuming a party based battle system, this is easily among my most anticipated games, on any system.
Kaijufan
06-22-2009, 06:58 PM
The new trailer looks great. I'm really looking forward to this game and I hope it doesn't take too long to come to the US after the Japanese release.
I really like the countering system in the trailer.
Cao Cao
06-22-2009, 11:24 PM
AbyssalChronicles on Youtube has been subtitling the trailers for this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgSKILwHb94
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb0QdfOp_Mw
Cao Cao
07-09-2009, 03:55 AM
Good news everyone!
A scan from Weekly Shonen Jump has appeared, and it details two new characters. The first is Asbel's swordsman younger brother, Hubert Oswell. The second is the red-haired girl from the trailer, named Shiela Burns (or Barnes).
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=88636
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=88683
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/tales_of_graces.jpg
Hubert Oswell
Voice: Takahiro Mizushima
Asbel's younger brother of one year. He's a major in the army, and has a reasonable and serious personality. Magic swordsman.
Shelia Burns
Voice: Shiho Karawagi
The granddaughter of the butler working for Asbel. She holds faint feelings for him, and is at an age where she isn't very obedient/honest. Uses healing magic.
scarhawk
07-10-2009, 08:42 PM
Anyone know the US release timeframe?
Anyone know the US release timeframe?
US release hasnt been announced yet
Cao Cao
08-27-2009, 05:20 PM
Two more characters were announced in scans: the GunStaff-wielding engineer Pascal, and Malik Caesars, a military instructor who uses a remote-controlled Boomerang.
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=94667
http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-of-graces-two-new-characters-confirmed--571.html
http://jaysonic.blog42.fc2.com/blog-entry-454.html
http://blog-imgs-30.fc2.com/j/a/y/jaysonic/tog_pascal.jpg
http://blog-imgs-30.fc2.com/j/a/y/jaysonic/tog_marik.jpg
Ryukahn
08-27-2009, 07:58 PM
Cool thanks for the info!
Zmonkay
09-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Really hoping this comes to US. I'm still hoping for a US release of Rebirth. Or hell, any of the various PSP ports of the series.
Kaijufan
09-02-2009, 08:45 PM
Really hoping this comes to US. I'm still hoping for a US release of Rebirth. Or hell, any of the various PSP ports of the series.
Since this is one of the main games I would guess a US release is pretty much assured.
Since this is one of the main games I would guess a US release is pretty much assured.
Rebirth and Destiny were main games too.
Ryukahn
09-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Rebirth and Destiny were main games too.
I really can't see them not bringing this over. The Wii has very few RPGs, and ToS sold great on the Gamecube (DotNW for Wii sold similar to what it did in Japan IIRC).
Ryukahn
09-13-2009, 09:53 AM
IGN put up a large batch of new screens. This game can't be released fast enough. :drool:
Kaijufan
09-14-2009, 01:30 AM
Rebirth and Destiny were main games too.
A quick search shows that both of those had 2D graphics for the battle system and SCEA rejected most games with 2D graphics.
A quick search shows that both of those had 2D graphics for the battle system and SCEA rejected most games with 2D graphics.
Not any more 2D than Tales of Legendia
Kaijufan
09-14-2009, 02:52 AM
Not any more 2D than Tales of Legendia
After watching some Youtube videos, but it appears Legendia has 3D graphics on a 2D battle field, and both Rebirth and Destiny had actual 2D sprites for graphics.
Until the very end of the PS2s lifespan Sony was rejecting all but a few games that used 2D sprites (I know the Square Enix Mana game was an exception, I imagine mostly because it's Square Enix). Eventually they ended that policy (and games like Odin's Sphere came out) but I imagine at that point Namco didn't care anymore.
It's also possible Namco didn't think the US audience would be interested in 2D games. I know they haven't brought over the DS Tales games, which I believe are also 2D. I know Tales of Phantasia came out in the US, but Nintendo published it, not Namco.
NISA and Atlus both released 2D games that got approved early on.
Tales of Innocences for DS is actually 3D. In fact the battle system is same as Abyss/Tales of the World.
The main reason is due to the poor sales of the series. Aside from Sympthonia series none of the other games did that well. They don't have the resources to bring every game over.
Cao Cao
09-18-2009, 03:15 PM
Some more info in Jump/Fami this week. True-gaming.net has the high quality scans up:
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825098_0f1f2e7249_b.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825102_e94fa972f2_b.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825104_95f19845c5_b.jpg
Notable info(Source 1 (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5208), Source 2 (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=97267)):
- Another new character revealed: Richard, Prince of Windol and Asbel's childhood friend. He attacks with a rapier and magic.
- DS Connectivity: A minigame is available for download to the DS, "Turtlemen Merchants." You apparently go through random dungeons, and the items you earn can be transferred to Tales of Graces.
twztid13
09-18-2009, 03:43 PM
thatll SUCK if this isnt brought over. sounds amazing.
botticus
09-18-2009, 04:06 PM
thatll SUCK if this isnt brought over. sounds amazing.
If they brought Dawn of the New World over, I don't think they'll take too long with Graces.
Ryukahn
09-18-2009, 04:12 PM
Some more info in Jump/Fami this week. True-gaming.net has the high quality scans up:
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825098_0f1f2e7249_b.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825102_e94fa972f2_b.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/3930825104_95f19845c5_b.jpg
Notable info(Source 1 (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5208), Source 2 (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=97267)):
- Another new character revealed: Richard, Prince of Windol and Asbel's childhood friend. He attacks with a rapier and magic.
- DS Connectivity: A minigame is available for download to the DS, "Turtlemen Merchants." You apparently go through random dungeons, and the items you earn can be transferred to Tales of Graces.
Ok, so apparently I'll have to buy a DS now, as I am very interested in this. This game just keeps getting better and better. :hot:
Ryukahn
09-27-2009, 12:29 PM
This was officially given a December release date in Japan, and Korean Songstress BoA will perform the vocals for the game's main theme. Also announced was a pre-order campaign that includes a postcard at the time of the pre-order as well as an undisclosed bonus picked up when the game is released.
Cao Cao
09-27-2009, 07:34 PM
A recording of the TGS trailer is on Youtube, subtitled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ndhjBY7wQ
Cao Cao
09-29-2009, 04:38 PM
Two trailers came out of TGS.
The first is this direct-feed, also subtitled, version of the trailer posted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1M-dasxSpg
The second is a gameplay trailer, with some footage of the DS mini-game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULsLr1Z8JQ
Ryukahn
09-29-2009, 05:28 PM
That 2nd video is all kinds of awesome. I seriously can't explain how much I want this game. They really need to announce this as having an NA release. :drool:
maigoyume
09-29-2009, 05:45 PM
Looks like imma gonna need to learn some Japanese in the event that this schmexy game doesn't make it over to our shores.
Draekon
09-29-2009, 06:34 PM
Is it wrong that I'd want to sell my sister in the hopes of playing it right this instant?
Anyways, I'm glad to see some of the more unique character designs make it into the party, similar to what we saw in Eternia. That second trailer though had me drooling the moment 3:55 happened. I wonder if it's an actual fight or some move/summong animation you can't really do anything during. Hope it's an actual fight.
If this turns out anything like Symphonia 2, I will have to baw myself to sleep for many a forte night.
Ryuukishi
10-14-2009, 01:17 PM
Dress Graces characters up as Yuri and Rita from Vesperia. (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/14/tales_of_graces_vesperia_costumes/)
I wasn't even interested in this game before now, but if it comes to US with the Rita Mordio costume intact, I'm in. I like Rita. :)
Ryukahn
12-03-2009, 03:06 PM
IGN posted some new screenshots and they look absolutely gorgeous. :drool:
Cao Cao
12-06-2009, 03:10 PM
It sounds like it's "out" in Japan (Some copies were sold early), here's the intro video:
http://zoome.jp/togmovie/diary/11/
There's one up on YT, but the company behind the video's song removed the sound.
http://img.techpowerup.org/091206/427800.jpg
The_Spaceman
12-06-2009, 04:31 PM
I wish this game was coming out in the US. I hope this gets announced soon.
Ryukahn
12-08-2009, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the video!
EXStrike
12-09-2009, 12:11 PM
I ordered the game from Play-Asia, but I think I have to wait the two weeks like I did with Mushihimesama Futari D:
scarhawk
12-12-2009, 05:28 PM
Epic looking game.
Ryuukishi
02-23-2010, 10:46 AM
Tales of Graces has been recalled in Japan (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/02/23/namco-bandai-recalls-tales-of-graces/) so Namco Bandai can fix bugs.
I wonder if this means anything for a potential US release?
Also, isn't it technically possible to issue patches for Wii games? I thought that a bug in Wii Sports Resort was patched at some point.
Ryukahn
02-23-2010, 01:11 PM
Well, maybe they will consider a US release now to try and get back some of the costs of this recall, assuming they can make money over here. I will be pretty crushed if the game isn't released here though.
more like Tales of Disgraces
Scrubking
02-23-2010, 02:31 PM
more like Tales of Disgraces
:lol:
Lawyers Guns N Money
02-23-2010, 07:05 PM
Tales of Graces has been recalled in Japan (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/02/23/namco-bandai-recalls-tales-of-graces/) so Namco Bandai can fix bugs.
I wonder if this means anything for a potential US release?
Also, isn't it technically possible to issue patches for Wii games? I thought that a bug in Wii Sports Resort was patched at some point.
From what I understand, the bug wasn't in the game, but in the Wii firmware, causing the issue with Wii Sports Resort.
I don't know of any Wii game that's been patched.
Cao Cao
07-14-2010, 09:38 AM
Looks like there's a fan-translation underway, led by two folks from the Fatal Frame 4 fan-translation team.
Zmonkay
07-14-2010, 10:33 AM
Nice, from what I've heard that was an amazingly well done translation. I wonder how long it will take thought, as tales as much more text. Good news regardless though!
seanr1221
07-14-2010, 11:07 AM
Didn't all the other Tales games come over? What's the deal with this one?
And is the Tales game that's out worth playing through if I've never played the GC version?
Ryuukishi
07-14-2010, 12:15 PM
Didn't all the other Tales games come over? What's the deal with this one?
I think for every Tales game that does come over, there are two that don't. Namco Bandai doesn't seem to have much rhyme or reason behind what they choose to translate, but it does seem like they had much higher hopes for Vesperia than what it achieved in sales, and that can't bode well for future games in the series.
Dead of Knight
07-14-2010, 01:47 PM
Didn't all the other Tales games come over?
Is this a joke post? Most of them don't.
Nice, from what I've heard that was an amazingly well done translation. I wonder how long it will take thought, as tales as much more text. Good news regardless though!
Well they are about 10% done going at about 5% per month.
Here is their site: http://www.talesofgraces.com
They are taking donation.
EXStrike
07-14-2010, 05:58 PM
I kinda laughed that they were able to get the talesofgraces.com domain.
Zmonkay
07-15-2010, 11:17 AM
wow, if they can keep up that progress... very impressive indeed. Maybe once this is done somebody can FINALLY begin work on a Tales of Rebirth translation? Please? What if I beg?
thingsfallnapart
07-15-2010, 11:31 AM
I think for every Tales game that does come over, there are two that don't. Namco Bandai doesn't seem to have much rhyme or reason behind what they choose to translate, but it does seem like they had much higher hopes for Vesperia than what it achieved in sales, and that can't bode well for future games in the series.
Maybe if they would of put it on the ps3, they would realize there is more a market for games like these with mature gamers then shmup FPS lovers.
wow, if they can keep up that progress... very impressive indeed. Maybe once this is done somebody can FINALLY begin work on a Tales of Rebirth translation? Please? What if I beg?
Some group is working on a rebirth translation patch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOatZVk0_NU
I am in the second to last dungeon in rebirth and it is an amazing game. Now if only someone do a Destiny remake...
Zmonkay
07-15-2010, 07:14 PM
wow, not to keep things off topic, but that makes me so happy! Probably won't be done for a long time, but it's enough that someone is even working on one. I searched the net about a month or so ago, and totally missed that. Wonder if it's the PS2 or PSP release? Anywho, thanks for the heads up 62t!
Halo05
07-16-2010, 09:40 AM
I think for every Tales game that does come over, there are two that don't. Namco Bandai doesn't seem to have much rhyme or reason behind what they choose to translate, but it does seem like they had much higher hopes for Vesperia than what it achieved in sales, and that can't bode well for future games in the series.
And that was on a system that isn't positively anemic when it comes to third party (non dancing apparently) games. I don't know what it costs to translate an RPG + publish it in the US but Namco probably does and they know that they won't make any money on Tales games for Wii.
Ryukahn
07-16-2010, 12:46 PM
Every time I see this thread bumped, I check it in hopes of seeing that the game was announced for an NA release, only to be incredibly sad to see that is not the case. Nintendo should just say screw it and translate/publish/whatever it needs to do to get the game over here and then promote the shit out of it.
And that was on a system that isn't positively anemic when it comes to third party (non dancing apparently) games. I don't know what it costs to translate an RPG + publish it in the US but Namco probably does and they know that they won't make any money on Tales games for Wii.
Tales games still did better than most NISA/Atlus/Xseed RPGs, and NISA/Atlus/Xseed managed to stay in business. Namco could also let other company localize Tales games but chose not to.
Zmonkay
07-16-2010, 01:45 PM
Namco could also let other company localize Tales games but chose not to.
This is what I don't understand. Wouldn't everyone benefit from any of those three localizing it? They clearly don't have problems localizing even some of the more random crap out there, so the Tales games that Namco doesn't want to bother with should be no brainers.
Ryuukishi
07-16-2010, 02:05 PM
It's hard to imagine how NISA can make money selling 14 copies of games like Trinity Universe, but Namco can't figure out any way to release more Tales games and stay in the black.
Ryukahn
07-16-2010, 04:48 PM
it's hard to imagine how nisa can make money selling 14 copies of games like trinity universe, but namco can't figure out any way to release more tales games and stay in the black.
qft
It's hard to imagine how NISA can make money selling 14 copies of games like Trinity Universe, but Namco can't figure out any way to release more Tales games and stay in the black.
I brought one of the 14 copies of Trinity Universe :(
Ryuukishi
07-16-2010, 05:22 PM
Not ragging on the game (necessarily), just saying its appeal couldn't be any more micro-niche. In terms of potential sales, a Tales game is like Halo compared to it. Yet NISA finds a way.
I know what you mean but it is kinda sad that NISA can bring a spinoff and Namco can't even get games from the main series.
pete5883
07-17-2010, 10:09 AM
This is what I don't understand. Wouldn't everyone benefit from any of those three localizing it? They clearly don't have problems localizing even some of the more random crap out there, so the Tales games that Namco doesn't want to bother with should be no brainers.
I assume they don't let other companies touch the series because a terrible localization from some other company would hurt sales of future games.
It's hard to imagine how NISA can make money selling 14 copies of games like Trinity Universe, but Namco can't figure out any way to release more Tales games and stay in the black.
The thing is, I don't think NISA is making money.
iRent
07-18-2010, 09:41 PM
The thing is, I don't think NISA is making money.
LOL does no one remember this article on joystiq??
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/09/nippon-ichi-earnings-plummet-in-2009/
Ryukahn
07-28-2010, 03:00 PM
This is coming to the PS3, though only in Japan.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1109092p1.html
I would like to give a big fuck you to Namco at this time. While I would assume the chances of them bringing a PS3 version over to NA would be better than the Wii version (using Vesperia is a bad example since it's already out here on 360, though it is incomplete in comparison), this will do me no good since I do not have a PS3. So again, I would like to take this opportunity to say fuck you Namco.
iRent
07-28-2010, 10:18 PM
This is coming to the PS3, though only in Japan.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1109092p1.html
I would like to give a big fuck you to Namco at this time. While I would assume the chances of them bringing a PS3 version over to NA would be better than the Wii version (using Vesperia is a bad example since it's already out here on 360, though it is incomplete in comparison), this will do me no good since I do not have a PS3. So again, I would like to take this opportunity to say fuck you Namco.
LOL.
I would sill like radiant mythology 2 to come out here as well. I have the first one and it isn't bad. Really what I would expect out of a mobile tales.
A PS3 version really wont be hurting our chance of playing this game in English
Ryukahn
07-29-2010, 08:43 AM
A PS3 version really wont be hurting our chance of playing this game in English
I never said it would hurt the chances in general. In fact, I said the PS3 version probably means it is more likely to be released here. However, I do not have a PS3, and with this move, I highly doubt they would bother bringing the Wii version out over a PS3 version, so that makes my chances even worse now.
Dead of Knight
07-29-2010, 08:46 PM
Scamco's response to Ryukahn:
http://www.neogaf.com/~kurai/umad.jpg
Ryukahn
07-30-2010, 09:03 AM
I think their response would be more along the lines of an Asian break-dancing around a plethora of Tales games that have not and will not be released outside of Japan. After a bit, the Asian would stop dancing, cross his arms, and say "YOU MAD!".
Dead of Knight
07-30-2010, 12:40 PM
I think their response would be more along the lines of an Asian break-dancing around a plethora of Tales games that have not and will not be released outside of Japan. After a bit, the Asian would stop dancing, cross his arms, and say "YOU MAD!".
:rofl: Unfortunately I couldn't find a pic of that, so I went with the default u mad pic.
here is a screen shot comparison. The PS3 version looks a lot better
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/1/7/17cc824c.jpg
There will also be an epilogue thats about 3/5 as long as the original game.
Ryukahn
08-02-2010, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I agree it looks a lot better.
Draekon
08-02-2010, 08:16 PM
PS3 looks like the engine Vesperia ran on (probably is the same engine). I hope that we get the PS3 version as I'd rather grab that one than the Wii version. Granted most people here probably don't have the PS3, but I like being selfish in my wants. At least if it doesn't even get localized, I can always import it without the need of buying a JPN console or modding mine.
http://www.talesunion.com/news/new-tales-post-vanishes-from-company-facebook-wall--1088.html
Namco face book said " Unfortunately we do not have any plans to localize the series at this time." Then they got non stop complain and had to delete that. Now their facebook page is nothing but more begging for tales. I am guessing none of their release for rest of the year got this much attention.
Draekon
08-03-2010, 02:39 PM
I already knew they had said that but it doesn't really mean jack as companies say that all the time. However I also know that Namco-Bandai are assholes when it comes to allowing localization, so yeah. Can only hope that the whiners actually come through for once or Namco-Bandai quit being assholes on the main Tales series for once.