View Full Version : I want DC vs. Capcom!
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 04:00 PM
http://www.medaverse.com/Cap/DCvsCapcom/DCvsCapcom.jpg
http://www.medaverse.com/Cap/DCvsCapcom/01.jpg
http://www.medaverse.com/Cap/DCvsCapcom/02.jpg
Yes thouse are Fakes I made. I found some sprites online and I copy pasted them with some other sprites and stage art I found. The Box art thou is all mine!
I was working late last night. And was pretty board because all I was doing was buring and putting lables on CDs. So I had JLU on and I got to think about the idea of Capcom doing a DC vs Capcom game now that EA has the rights to Marvel.
Truth be told I have been getting tunred away more and more from Marvel. The only things that I have been reading now is Captain America and Elektra.
While on the DC side I've been getting into more and more of the series.
We all know of the 3 major heroes Batman, Wonderwoman and Superman. But there are hundreds of others that can easly be put into a DC vs Capcom Game. I really think Capcom should look into doing something like this. Marvel vs Capcom was a huge hit. Why stop just because EA has the rights to Marvel. DC is just as good.
Just for starters you have:
Goodguys:
Superman
Supergirl
Steel
Superboy
Batman
Batgirl (new)
Robin
Nightwing
Huntress
Spoiler
Black Canary
Green Arrow
Connor Hawke
Beast Boy
Cyborg
Kid Flash
Raven
Starfire
WonderWoman
Wonder Girl
Star
Stripes
Green Lantern
Guy Gardner
Jade
Hawkgirl
Hawkman
Doctor Fate
FireStorm
Flash
Martian Manhunter
Plastic Man
Badguys:
Lex
Doomsday
Bane
Lady Shiva
Cain
Catwoman
Clayfaces
Harley Quinn
The Joker
Two-Face
Parallax
Dark Lantern
Grayven
Sinestro
and this doesn't even get into The LEGION or Metal Men or any of the other DC villens out there. There are so many chracters they could uses.
AlbinoNinja
09-21-2004, 04:02 PM
thanks for giving my hopes up :(
That's pretty sweet. What game did you get the images of WW and Bats from?
The Gifuto
09-21-2004, 04:03 PM
It would definitely add a new twist to things, I'd like to see it. BTW, excellent job on those fakes.
CaseyRyback
09-21-2004, 04:04 PM
like how you included LB 2 backgrounds
also, that would make a great game, and seeing as no company has been doing DC justice, maybe CAPCOM could get the rights.
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 04:06 PM
thanks for giving my hopes up :(
Sorry I didn't mean too. I changed the topic title so no one else thinks this is real.
That's pretty sweet. What game did you get the images of WW and Bats from?
Not sure where I got them, they have been sitting on my PC for awhile.
excellent job on those fakes.
Thanks ^_^ I have alot of fun making fakes like these.
RAMSTORIA
09-21-2004, 04:08 PM
sounded fishy, and i disagree, i like marvel characters way better than DC... they just as well make another capcom fighting game because id only pick their characters... and on another note, who the F can beat super man... i mean Ryu is strong and, but shit its superman
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 04:10 PM
and on another note, who the F can beat super man... i mean Ryu is strong and, but shit its superman
Doomsday can beat him
Batman can beat him
Batgirl could most likely beat him too.
AlbinoNinja
09-21-2004, 04:10 PM
thanks for giving my hopes up :(
Sorry I didn't mean too. I changed the topic title so no one else thinks this is real.
salrite, great job on those fakes btw. time to trick my friends :twisted:
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 04:14 PM
CapAmerica, those images you did are without a doubt BADASS.
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 04:18 PM
Oh for those who are wondering, the Wonder Woman sprite looks a lot like an altered Rogue sprite from MvC2 to me. The Batman is harder to tell though.
RAMSTORIA
09-21-2004, 04:24 PM
and on another note, who the F can beat super man... i mean Ryu is strong and, but shit its superman
Doomsday can beat him
Batman can beat him
Batgirl could most likely beat him too.
bruce cant hang with clark, dont get me wrong, hes pretty rich, but that f'n alien could slay him good, fly circles around batman
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 04:26 PM
^^^Now you know Batman plans for EVERYTHING!!
RAMSTORIA
09-21-2004, 04:27 PM
dont get me wrong, hes an excellent planner, i dont doubt it, but unless he makes a kryptonite suit hes screwed
Scorch
09-21-2004, 04:29 PM
You SUCK for getting my hopes up.
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 04:30 PM
LOL, yeah. Kryptonite laced Batarangs would be cool.
Or those electric brass knuckles he used in the StarCrossed finale. Those were nice.
peteloaf
09-21-2004, 04:32 PM
and on another note, who the F can beat super man... i mean Ryu is strong and, but shit its superman
Doomsday can beat him
Batman can beat him
Batgirl could most likely beat him too.
bruce cant hang with clark, dont get me wrong, hes pretty rich, but that f'n alien could slay him good, fly circles around batman
I don't remember were I read it, but it was said by the guys at DC behind the Batman comic that the only superhero they thought that could actualy beat Batman, even if Batman had planned for it, is Captain America
I don't think that a DC verses Marvel fighting game would work, DC characters have always been more powerful, Marvel has always been more personal.
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 04:33 PM
and on another note, who the F can beat super man... i mean Ryu is strong and, but shit its superman
Doomsday can beat him
Batman can beat him
Batgirl could most likely beat him too.
bruce cant hang with clark, dont get me wrong, hes pretty rich, but that f'n alien could slay him good, fly circles around batman
Batman knows how to Kill Superman, and he has fought him on a number of occasions. Infact Batman knows how to fight and kill every member of the JL, he takes it apnea himself to know how to take them all down incase any of them ever go rouge.
Oh and I just found out WonderWoman has also fought Superman too.
RAMSTORIA
09-21-2004, 04:34 PM
lol
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Its just a game.
So what if Superman is weaker in it so Capcom has a chance =P
Superman fights badguys all the time. There are always badguys that give him a run for his money. So whol knows maybe Ryu is someone who could give Superman a good fight.
Tromack
09-21-2004, 04:39 PM
First off, Batman has beat Superman in the past. Its because Superman's heart isn't in it. Batman fights to win, Superman doesn't want to hurt his friend so he holds back just enough for Batman to beat him. Or at least that is my take on it.
And there was a crossover between Marvel and DC a while back. They had a few fights, but eventually they worked together to defeat a common enemy.
I have been wanting a Marvel vs. DC or DC vs Capcom for years. I knew I wasn't the only one, but its nice to see the support.
kristianator
09-21-2004, 04:50 PM
being a comic fan, i gotta step in here...
uh.. first and foremost, there's no way that batgirl (cassandra) could take on supes. there really is no question to that.
batman, however, IS up for debate. given a certain amount of preparation and access to resources, he COULD beat superman, but keep in mind that he never actually went head to head with superman and beat him. he knows how to take out the JLA, sure. but let's talk more detail...
first of all, batman didn't use the red kryptonite himself, he just created it. some ra's al ghul goon used it, and it caught superman by surprise. if batman is allowed to prepare for this fight, then so is superman. if i were superman, i would know my weakness, and there's no way i would even come close to batman, assuming he would have access to kryptonite. i can fly, i've got super-breath, i've got laser eyes... i don't need to go up to him in hand to hand combat.
so next scenario: no preparation. just spur of the moment throw-down. come on now. batman can't even hurt him. or even touch him.
in dark knight returns, batman schools superman at the end, but that was ONLY after superman was blasted by a huge fucking nuclear missile. PLUS batman had help. PLUS batman planned, whereas superman was still reeling from the blast.
i won't even reference that piece of crap "dark knight strikes again" because frank miller had an agenda beyond writing a good batman story. he seriously intentionally wrote a crappy story because dc would not stop hassling him, and not to mention it was way too biased towards batman.
with all that being said, your altered "screenshots" were pretty awesome. you should do some more... how about deathstroke vs. dante? or booster gold vs. viewtiful joe?
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 04:50 PM
Yeah DC usually has characters that are overall stronger but Marvel has some that can compare...
Rogue
Hulk
She-Hulk (Good God she deserves to be in SOME kind of game)
Gladiator
Phoenix
Thing
Iron Man
War Machine
To name a few...
jaykrue
09-21-2004, 05:04 PM
Gladiator is easily on par w/ Superman's level considering his only weakness is based on his confidence i.e. only as strong as he thinks he is - I would love to see a knockdown bare knuckle fight between those two. On the Batman note, if you wanted to make it fairer, why not go the Iron Man route and put ol' Bats in a suit. Bruce is not above using tech to increase his advantage in combat. I think it would work. As an aside, you could also include Azrael as Psycho-Batman as a hidden character. Geez! I want this to be real even more now!
Gothic Walrus
09-21-2004, 05:06 PM
I don't know if there IS a "DC" license in existence right now.
On the other hand, a Justice League fighting game is a possibility. Wasn't there one for the Genesis or SNES?
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 05:06 PM
I have always wondered why Batman didn't resort to the Iron Man type thing. He obviously has the money and knowledge to do that. I mean I know it would kind of mess with his character (being the pre-eminent superhero without any powers). But it would be cool if he resorted to that only when he needed to.
Well, no sooner than I said that I watch The Batman on Kids WB and he dons an armor suit to fight Bane.
GuilewasNK
09-21-2004, 05:07 PM
I don't know if there IS a "DC" license in existence right now.
On the other hand, a Justice League fighting game is a possibility. Wasn't there one for the Genesis or SNES?
Yeah but it was blatantly average.
kristianator
09-21-2004, 05:10 PM
batman's a detective. he's not an extravagant superhero. while it WOULD help to be in some type of iron-man suit, it's not really practical when you're trying to be stealthy. he's an excellent martial artist, and having such a suit would probably hinder him.
willardhaven
09-21-2004, 05:11 PM
Doesn't Batman have a kyrptonite ring that Superman gave him?
I love those screen shots, good work.
jaykrue
09-21-2004, 05:14 PM
batman's a detective. he's not an extravagant superhero. while it WOULD help to be in some type of iron-man suit, it's not really practical when you're trying to be stealthy. he's an excellent martial artist, and having such a suit would probably hinder him.
But stealth isn't that big an issue in a fighting game since your opponent already is facing you :lol:
ykryptonite13
09-21-2004, 05:25 PM
Batman knows how to Kill Superman, and he has fought him on a number of occasions. Infact Batman knows how to fight and kill every member of the JL, he takes it apnea himself to know how to take them all down incase any of them ever go rouge.
Word. I'm for Batman beating Supes when it comes down to it. That's why my username has kryptonite in it - because I want Superman to die... well not really, but I ain't a big fan of him.
If you guys don't what LB2 means, it's Last Blade 2 for the Neo Geo.
This would be a fun game, but DC would probably never license its characters to Capcom. In the past, they took care of their licenses in-house with Warner Bros. Interactive and I think they do license their properties to other developers now, but they seem to have pretty tight restrictions on who they hand them out to. They have to find a developer that will undoubtedly make a piece-of-crap game with it. Think about it: Superman 64, Batman: Rize of Sin Tzu and Vengeance... AQUAMAN! None of those were good. DC vs. Marvel would rule (and would work better than vs. Capcom IMO) but all the publishers' exclusive licenses get in the way so that won't happen for now, but i think it can be done. A lil' over 5 years ago. no one woulda thought a Capcom vs. SNK game would ever happen and we got 4 fighting and 2 card games out of it. keep your fingers crossed.
CapAmerica
09-21-2004, 05:26 PM
last I knew Batman still had the kyrptonite ring.
The reason I said batgirl (cassandra) could take him is because she has access to all the same stuff as Batman. So I feel that if Batman can take him so could she.
And is the Dark Knight Returns series the only one that Batman has kicked Superman's butt? I was sure that they have fought each other many other times. Most of the time Superman's mind is being controlerd by something.
Its a game they can always write in some reason why Superman's powers aren't as strong. Look what they were able to do for Spiderman vs Superman. =/
jaykrue
09-21-2004, 05:37 PM
And is the Dark Knight Returns series the only one that Batman has kicked Superman's butt? I was sure that they have fought each other many other times. Most of the time Superman's mind is being controlerd by something.
That's the exact case in Batman: Hush w/ art by Jim Lee and story by Jeph Loeb (i think) and of course Batman, always the 'boy scout' (always prepared) brings his kryptonite ring to hand Supes his butt. As for Batgirl, I believe that she can take Superman in a martial arts contest since Supes is all power and Cassandra's nimble and quick... but if Clark can manage only one blow then the game's over. I don't think she's as tactical as Batman is. The way she fights is more intuitive rather preparation. If any DC fans can remember, even Batman acknowledged that she was the only one who ever beat Shiva on equal terms (the World's Finest issue where Bats kicks Shiva's butt doesn't count since Shiva was mindcontrolled and therefore 'not utilized to her full potential')
kristianator
09-22-2004, 02:50 AM
if cassandra hit him with any martial arts move or pressure point or whatever... it STILL wouldn't do anything to superman. that's why he wins.
CouRageouS
09-22-2004, 03:25 AM
And is the Dark Knight Returns series the only one that Batman has kicked Superman's butt? I was sure that they have fought each other many other times. Most of the time Superman's mind is being controlerd by something.
I believe Dark Knight Returns is the only "real" time Batman has defeated Superman and that Superman actually accepted as a defeat. Though I still don't like it cause Green Arrow intervened. I think realistically, in any Superman VS Batman debate, its best put in the way Green Arrow said in the last issue of Identity Crisis, in the end Batman is only human. In a fair fight, it wouldn't be fair cause its a human vs a super being. Adding Kryptonite to the mix wouldn't be fair, its like beating a man when he's down. Though if Superman were stripped of his powers and it was him against Batman, hands down Batman would win. Superman is more of a brawler compared to Batman's tactical skills and training. Though different stories/arcs/series could provide different results.
On the who's stronger between Marvel VS DC, DC usually gets the shaft as being weaker which can be argueably true that they're weaker. DC tends to have more "highly skilled" human characters, compared to the mass of Marvel's special power wielding force. I forgot what arc it was, but when Superman couldn't lift Thor's Hammer, the comic community went nuts.
kristianator
09-22-2004, 08:40 AM
superman HAS lifted thor's hammer. along with captain america and wonder woman to name a few...
but yeah, i remember that moment. i was cheering. fuck superman.
GuilewasNK
09-22-2004, 11:26 AM
Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu could have been a halfway decent beat 'em up, but the timer in the game killed it.
Best superhero beat em up is still...
BATMAN RETURNS on the SNES. A truly badass game.
batman2million
09-22-2004, 11:31 AM
GOOOOOOO BATTTMAN!!!
that would be badass...
it would b even better if they also put marvel..
who knows..
kristianator
09-23-2004, 01:28 AM
marvel vs. dc wouldn't be completely out of the question... they've done it so many times now in the comics that the last jla/avengers series didn't even seem that novel anymore. it was just a couple decades too late...
it seems though that, based on the versus series, the problem is mainly in the choice of characters. shuma gorath isn't that terrible of a character, but i think dr. strange would have been a lot more welcome. blackheart.. what the? where's ghost rider?
jaykrue
09-26-2004, 01:28 PM
bumpitty bump
Girion47
09-26-2004, 01:40 PM
All I know is that in any new Marvel fighting game they need to put Deadpool in.
rebenns
09-26-2004, 01:50 PM
You know what would be even better, but will likely NEVER happen? Marvel vs. DC. Superman vs. the Incredible Hulk? Batman vs. Spider Man? Now THAT would be awesome. Oh well, we can dream.
Okay guys, you know a helluva lot about comics and such. I've been out of the comics for years now, and it's time I got back in. I'm not looking to spend a lot of cash, but what recommendations to you give someone like me? Specifically, I would like to get into: Batman, Batgirl, Superman, Supergirl, and Spiderman.
Alpha2
09-26-2004, 02:21 PM
I have always wondered why Batman didn't resort to the Iron Man type thing. He obviously has the money and knowledge to do that. I mean I know it would kind of mess with his character (being the pre-eminent superhero without any powers). But it would be cool if he resorted to that only when he needed to.
Well, no sooner than I said that I watch The Batman on Kids WB and he dons an armor suit to fight Bane.
They totally ripped me off, I created a "Bat-mech" way back during the first month of the Batman beyond show when they had a contest to create new weapons but I never really entered because of an age restriction, I just did it for fun, then THIS so comes a long and I kept seeing it in the commercials and I was like "if they actually use the same name I'm SO going to sue them!" Instead they chose the cornier name of Bat-Bot (feh). But then again Batman has always prefered to be a scalpel than a buzzsaw.
Also I supose some of you know about Mugen, the fighting game engine? Apparently some people have been working on Sprite edits for a DCvsMC version of Mugen, so it is possible even if it's not official. I've seen Superman GL and Lobo art so far, but I only saw them in passing, wasn't really looking to d/l anything.
http://dcvsmarvel.studiosmh.com/edits.html
Duo_Maxwell
09-26-2004, 03:41 PM
You missed some great characters, like Lobo, Aquaman, Metallo, Obsidian, Speedy, Deathstroke, etc. Anyhow to be honest I've seen too many superhero vs. Capcom games, I'd rather see DC vs. SNK or something. Actually now that I think about I'd rather have Dark Horse vs. SNK. Not only could you use Dark Horse characters, but also possibly characters from some of the manga they own the US publishing rights too.
Oh and btw I think Evil Ryu would own Superman in a fight.
pimp tyranny
09-26-2004, 03:47 PM
that would be pretty sweet.
Eclipse
09-26-2004, 03:48 PM
You forgot Lobo.. DC's answer to Wolverine! Nice manips anyway =3
CapAmerica
09-26-2004, 05:22 PM
Okay guys, you know a helluva lot about comics and such. I've been out of the comics for years now, and it's time I got back in. I'm not looking to spend a lot of cash, but what recommendations to you give someone like me? Specifically, I would like to get into: Batman, Batgirl, Superman, Supergirl, and Spiderman.
Defintly get into Batgirl and Green Arrow, also check out Batman, Robin, Teen Titans, Superman/Batman and Elektra (Ya I know 1 Marvel, I've actually almost dropped Marvel all together now. they have gotten pretty crappy =/ )
Ya I know I forgot some chracters I was just useing ones that came to me while I was writing the post. DC has a ton of chracters that could be used.
Anyhow to be honest I've seen too many superhero vs. Capcom games, I'd rather see DC vs. SNK or something.
Dude I love that Idea. I'm going to but together some screen shots for that type of game =P
GuilewasNK
09-26-2004, 05:52 PM
I don't see how DC vs. SK could work. There aren't many SNK guys that could believe fight people like Superman, Wonder Woman, and GL. Terry Bogard from Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture could hang with them for a bit though.
Duo_Maxwell
09-26-2004, 06:02 PM
I don't see how DC vs. SK could work. There aren't many SNK guys that could believe fight people like Superman, Wonder Woman, and GL. Terry Bogard from Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture could hange with them for a bit though.
Yeah because Balrog could beat up say the Incredible Hulk in a fight. The actual argument of who would when in a fight is pretty useless, because well it's a fighting game, and half the fun is getting to pick who you want. Technically from my perspective, superheroes aren't really built for fighting games because all of them usually bested because of a special weakness or strategy, none are hardly ever defeated from sheer strength or fighting prowess.
batman2million
09-26-2004, 06:16 PM
marvel vscapcom 2 is the best superhero fighting game out there.. its based on real skill. i mean..little ol mega man could beat the hulk..
Capcom gave all the charaters some awsome combos n attacks. The DC game would only b good if capcom made it..but the charater licenses are alll over! one company has spiderman the other has batman..so i doubt we'll see n e thing like that soon...
AlbinoNinja
09-26-2004, 09:13 PM
damn straight MVC2 is the best superhero fighting game. I couldnt believe every single guy has unique moves. i mean, soul calibur 2 didnt even have 30 guys, and some were ripped from others.
For some reason if they did make a DC vs Capcom game, i think a more Power Stone like engine would be cool. I love the 2d fighting, but i think using the characters super powers would be more fun in 3D.
Duo_Maxwell
09-26-2004, 09:53 PM
marvel vscapcom 2 is the best superhero fighting game out there.. its based on real skill. i mean..little ol mega man could beat the hulk..
Capcom gave all the charaters some awsome combos n attacks. The DC game would only b good if capcom made it..but the charater licenses are alll over! one company has spiderman the other has batman..so i doubt we'll see n e thing like that soon...
Uh, Spiderman is Marvel Comics...
servbot
09-26-2004, 09:55 PM
DITKA!
jaykrue
09-27-2004, 03:50 AM
Okay guys, you know a helluva lot about comics and such. I've been out of the comics for years now, and it's time I got back in. I'm not looking to spend a lot of cash, but what recommendations to you give someone like me? Specifically, I would like to get into: Batman, Batgirl, Superman, Supergirl, and Spiderman.
Get the trades for Ultimate Spiderman. I was highly skeptical of the Ultimate series (re-imaginings of Marvel characters like Xmen, spiderman, daredevil, etc.) but Ult. spidey wasn't too bad. In terms of DC, check out Identity Crisis (DC wide story arc involving superheroes' loved ones getting killed ), Batman: Hush, World's Finest (Best Superman/Batman teamup I've seen in a while and re-introduces Supergirl w/ art by Michael Turner, the Fathom/Witchblade creator or Jim Lee of Image fame - I forget)... alternatively, check out Majestic (basically a Superman-level character who makes Supes seem like a retard w/ an IQ of 3 and a cocky arrogance to match). The first issue is the best: Majestic walks into a diner and has no money so he crushes a nearby pencil converting the carbon into diamonds to pay for his coffee. The ppl are all freaked out and Superman has to sit down next to him and basically tell him to turn the intensity down a notch. After he does so, Majestic hands back Green Lantern's ring to Superman since he didn't want anyone to disturb his morning coffee by mistaking him for a supervillain. Comic Gold I tells ya. If there's any other DC title I would check out, it would be the Teen Titans. Basically everyone from Young Justice (Superboy, Robin [Tim Drake], Wonder Girl [Cassie Sandmark?], Impulse) and about half of the old Teen Titans (Cyborg, Beast Boy, and Starfire). As for Marvel, as I said, the Ultimate series isn't a bad read but a really underrated gem is EXileS (alternate reality xmen try to correct wrongs while dimension-hopping)