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[n8rockerasu]

I love the banner, by the way.

Thanks. I wanted it to be flamboyant, yet classy...just like Sweden, haha :)

[Matt Young]

Just to let my opponents know, I should be able to play this afternoon/evening if either of you are available.

[sleepy180]

The CAGFC X results have been finalized. There were 3 fights that didn't get completed and forfeits were handed out accordingly. The biggest of these fights was the Light Heavyweight Championship bout between Daniel Ortiz and Small Light Smurf. Based on effort and availability, I had to give Ortiz a forfeit for that one.

I don't like to have the title change hands as a result of a forfeit (and with SLS retiring anyway, it didn't really matter), but I also felt Ortiz needed some kind of consequence for having to forfeit. The most fair thing I could think of was to strip him of the belt. HOWEVER, I also didn't want to be too harsh, as he's still a top contender and deserves another shot. Therefore, he will face Matt Cracker at CAGFC11, in a battle for the now vacated title.

Look for a special announcement and the card for CAGFC11 tomorrow, after some minor details are worked out. It's going to be a doozy! :)



How come I got the forfiet when my opponent retired himself? And stripped of the belt too? I'm on or my brother is on, or my roomate is on pretty much every day. I don't see how I wasn't making the effort when we talked in PM's and added each other but just couldn't meet each other because of time differences. I even posted in the thread trying to setup the match.

Anyways, I dont care about the record but my brother is pissed that he got a loss for no reason. Especially since soodmeg retired.

[CAGLeagueSports]

How come I got the forfiet when my opponent retired himself? And stripped of the belt too? I'm on or my brother is on, or my roomate is on pretty much every day. I don't see how I wasn't making the effort when we talked in PM's and added each other but just couldn't meet each other because of time differences. I even posted in the thread trying to setup the match.

Anyways, I dont care about the record but my brother is pissed that he got a loss for no reason. Especially since soodmeg retired.

Soodmeg retiring is irrelevant. His retirement did not go into effect until the deadline for the fights had passed. This was the sequence of posts in the thread and how they led to my decision.


Pmed my opponent yesterday and got no response. Have been on all day playing Stranglehold and havent seen him.

He sent his first PM on 7/31 (the same day the card was posted), and made the above post on 8/1.

Still havent heard anything from my opponent.

As of August 3rd, when this post was made, he still hadn't gotten a response.

Thanks N8 for the encouragement. I have been thinking pretty hard about it but I guess the final answer will come when its time to pick up madden. I am on a tight budget for the summer so if I dont have the money that I will have to but if I can afford to keep both maybe I will.

As for today, my girl is at some teacher workshop, I dont have work and my week has been hell. I am doing nothing but playing games and watching movies (on my xbox as well) so anytime my opponent is ready he can jump on.

On the morning of August 5th, he posted again, to let you know he'd be on all day and would be available to get the fight in.

soodmeg i can play tomorrow after 5pm pst, or right now. let me know

Your first attempt (that I'm aware of) to set the fight up came at 1:26 in the morning...22 hours before the fights were due. You gave him a timeframe of "right now" or 4 hours before the deadline.

Alright, for some reason my opponent and I just couldnt meet up this week. I was on from about 6:30 until 9pm and I am about to watch a movie and then to bed for work tomorrow.

Dont fret too much because I will just take this time to official retire. N8 thanks for the encouragement but I just cant do it. I only play this game for the league and if I cant meet up with a opponent then I just went a week without even putting it into my disc drive.

Guys, thanks for everything it was a fun ride while it lasted. I am still going to pop in and out of here just to see whats going on.

Soodmeg made his final post at 8:45 PM EDT last night. Now, from what I can gather, it seems like the dreaded "can't figure out the difference between Eastern and Pacific time" is what screwed you guys up. You said you wouldn't be available till after 5PM PDT and Soodmeg said he waited from 6:30 to 9PM.

And I'm 99% sure Soodmeg was thinking EDT because I was also on my 360 last night and he sent me a message telling me you were supposed to play at 7. So, that's probably the error in communication.

HOWEVER, I can't ignore the fact that he attempted to get in touch with you from the first day the card was posted, and all you could offer him was a timeframe 4 hours before the deadline. I'm sorry. Call it losing by judges decision, but while you made an effort, I have to say Soodmeg made a bigger one. And retirement or not, he deserved the win there.

The belt being stripped is really just a formality. The more important thing is you have a chance to win it back in this next fight. Use this as a learning experience and make the most of your current opportunity.

[ip0nder]

I'll go ahead and take my Lightweight title now, thanks.

[seen]

^This isn't McDonald's....

[Matt Young]

Gary, Ortiz- I can play tonight after UFC 101. I can probably play before, but I don't know exactly when as I will be in and out of the house.

[FowlBeast]

Ortiz, Klien & Hansen If your interested I'll be able to fight before UFC 101, just P.M. and let me know

[FowlBeast]

Holy shit did you guys just Forrest get KTFO by a $$$gy jab

[Matt Young]

$$$gy jab?

Check out the MMA thread in off-topic.

The CAGFC heavyweight title fight is now scheduled for Monday.

[Mr Meaty28]

Im back from Vaca and read to defend my ww title!!! SIMEON SIMEON!!!

[Raysor]

hey meaty I can fight tonight.

[moojuice]

Jackie Chan | Nate Lisa | Unanimous Decision (29-28)

Very close fight. Lisa for sure took round one, but Chan barely edged out Lisa in rounds two and three.

Not much to say really but that the fight was back and forth, Lisa having dominance on the feet and Chan earning the points on the ground. Honestly had no idea who was going to win that one, though my heart stopped beating when you had those mounts.

[n8rockerasu]

Jackie Chan | Nate Lisa | Unanimous Decision (29-28)

Very close fight. Lisa for sure took round one, but Chan barely edged out Lisa in rounds two and three.

Not much to say really but that the fight was back and forth, Lisa having dominance on the feet and Chan earning the points on the ground. Honestly had no idea who was going to win that one, though my heart stopped beating when you had those mounts.

Yeah, really great fight. I think most of your fights go the distance because you just excel at not letting people beat you. I don't know. Maybe I should have been more aggressive, but I just felt like if I was, you were going to make me pay.

I really think my MW is garbage though. It practically does me no good to gain mount when my ground striking is like 70-75. When I created him, I thought I'd be KO'ing people with head kicks and getting submissions. What a dumb idea that was! haha. Anyway, good fight.

Jackie Chan | Nate Lisa | Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

[DarkTower80]

Tony Hawk | Brandon Craig | TKO 1:21 Round 3

Traded shots for most of the fight and finally got stunned and pounded for the finish. Good fight Moojuiced.

[moojuice]

Heh, seems like everyone hate's their MW guy.

Tony Hawk | Brandon Craig | TKO | 1:21 of Round 3

Back and forth on the standup exchange, but a knee from the Muay Thai clinch rocked Craig, and Chan swung for the fences, forcing Mario Yamasaki to step in to stop the fight.

Good fight man, ate a lot of bombs from you, surprised I didnt at least get rocked.

[DarkTower80]

Heh, seems like everyone hate's their MW guy.

Tony Hawk | Brandon Craig | TKO | 1:21 of Round 3

Back and forth on the standup exchange, but a knee from the Muay Thai clinch rocked Craig, and Chan swung for the fences, forcing Mario Yamasaki to step in to stop the fight.

Good fight man, ate a lot of bombs from you, surprised I didnt at least get rocked.

Aha, that's why you didn't get stunned. Chan swung for the fences. You switched fighters half way through. :D

But seriously, good fight man.

[moojuice]

Haha , damnit, I got my two guys mixed up. I blame it on the fact that it's late :P

[FowlBeast]

to cubs2321
Do you know the difference between a cactus and Wrigley field?.......On a cactus all the pricks are on the outside! Go Cards!! :)

[Matt Young]

Yeah, really great fight. I think most of your fights go the distance because you just excel at not letting people beat you. I don't know. Maybe I should have been more aggressive, but I just felt like if I was, you were going to make me pay.

I really think my MW is garbage though. It practically does me no good to gain mount when my ground striking is like 70-75. When I created him, I thought I'd be KO'ing people with head kicks and getting submissions. What a dumb idea that was! haha. Anyway, good fight.

Jackie Chan | Nate Lisa | Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Man, I feel the same way about my middleweight, but I don't want to spend 10 hours redoing a career when I could be doing new careers.

[n8rockerasu]

Man, I feel the same way about my middleweight, but I don't want to spend 10 hours redoing a career when I could be doing new careers.

Same here. I'm still trying to finish up my LW's career. Then, I've gotta do a LH and a WW if I want to get that achievement. I'd like to redo my Middleweight, but I don't know if I'll get around to it.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Matt "The Doctor" Domoracki | Matt "Razor Sharp" Paulson | TKO | 0:43 of Round 2

[ip0nder]

I have a new caf. Everything is the same it's just a 96 overall, instead of a 92.

Anyway, the guy I'm supposed to fight for the lightweight belt isn't responding to my messages on Xbox Live.

[n8rockerasu]

I have a new caf. Everything is the same it's just a 96 overall, instead of a 92.

Anyway, the guy I'm supposed to fight for the lightweight belt isn't responding to my messages on Xbox Live.

You went through career with your LW again?

Also, try sending your opponent a PM on here. Some people have a 360, PS3, and a Wii and might not get on Xbox Live every day. But they probably still check CAG.

[ip0nder]

Yeah, he just responded now.

And yeah, I went through another career. Wasn't happy with the first one.

[n8rockerasu]

Yeah, he just responded now.

And yeah, I went through another career. Wasn't happy with the first one.

cool

[Matt Young]

Same here. I'm still trying to finish up my LW's career. Then, I've gotta do a LH and a WW if I want to get that achievement. I'd like to redo my Middleweight, but I don't know if I'll get around to it.

Well really, you only have to do 10 fights in each class to win the belts and you'll get the achievement.

[ip0nder]

Nick Sutera | Captain Caveman | Submission (Triangle Choke) | 2:13 of round 3

You're new Lightweight Champion, Nick Sutera.

[Tuffgong]

Well chalk up another beat down for ol' capt caveman, just a born loser I guess.

Nick Sutera | Captain Caveman | Sub (kimura) | 2:13 of Rd 3

It was fairly back and forth, but sutera's crisp boxing was getting me and the endless sub attempts when we hit the ground finally caught up.
Good game, I'm not sure that I could've done much to stop that attack as bad as that sounds. Well played.

[Tuffgong]

And I appreciate you wanting to get the game out of the way, but chill out man. It's only Monday. :)

But seriously, 115 sub offense is pretty jacked up along 110 on ground offense and 105 striking.
The subs are impossible to break once you get past the first couple of rounds because of stamina being run out. I guess that's why on ranked I only play UFC fighters.

[ip0nder]

And I appreciate you wanting to get the game out of the way, but chill out man. It's only Monday. :)

But seriously, 115 sub offense is pretty jacked up along 110 on ground offense and 105 striking.
The subs are impossible to break once you get past the first couple of rounds because of stamina being run out. I guess that's why on ranked I only play UFC fighters.

Sorry?

[seen]

^This crap is the reason why we need somewhat reasonable limits; over 99 stats are borderline cheating...Makes the game involve little to no strategy; punch, kick, submission attempt, and repeat.

[ip0nder]

^This crap is the reason why we need somewhat reasonable limits; over 99 stats are borderline cheating...Makes the game involve little to no strategy; punch, kick, submission attempt, and repeat.

Sorry?

[Tuffgong]

You don't need to be sorry, but this league has changed big time.

I just want a competitive fight, but I'm not going back through career mode to make a guy with 115 sub defense...

[Matt Young]

Gary Russell l Gail Pennyfeather l Tapout (kimura) l 3:22 of Round 1

This fight fucking sucked. I got taken down and beaten on once since someone interrupted me and I accidentally pressed start when I had the knock at my door, and then of course Gary used his shitty low-skill "slam the guy over and over and attempt repeated submissions until you get the guy's stamina down so he automatically taps" offense. I rarely ever get mad at games, but I just about punched a hole in my door after that one.

[Vulcan2422]

Alan can take down my guy who is 101 and make me submit when ever I pull a slam on him. Just gotta learn how they play the game. For me, I'm a slammer and Nate hates that

Gary Russell | Gail Pennyfeather | Tapout (NOT A KNEE BAR! LOL) 3:22 Round 1


of course Gary used his shitty low-skill "slam the guy over and over and attempt repeated submissions until you get the guy's stamina down so he automatically taps" offense.

I hate to be a dick but, LEARN HOW TO REVERSE IT. Honestly, Alan can reverse any slam I throw at him now. But it pisses me off that It's my Shitty low skill Slam guy over. If you don't like it, take the fight to the ground and mount me. My WEAK POINT. Just pisses me off when people say shitty low-skill Keep slamming shit. What ever. Maybe I'll drop the belt this week considering my "slam the guy over and over and attempt repeated submissions until you get the guy's stamina down so he automatically taps" offense. Just so you know Matt, I tried ONE knee bar when your stamina was in the red, then finished it up with some kind of Arm Submission, So I don't wanna hear how I went for the fucking Knee bar over and over.

[Matt Young]

Don't say I need to learn how to play the game. I know how to play the game, and I can block all standing slams (you used none of those). It's the ones where you're in my guard and pick me up that I can't do anything about.

[Vulcan2422]

Don't say I need to learn how to play the game. I know how to play the game, and I can block all standing slams (you used none of those). It's the ones where you're in my guard and pick me up that I can't do anything about.

YET ONCE AGAIN, EASY TO REVERSE. We use to be cool Matt. But when you call my offense shitty cause I Slam you and you can't reverse it, I don't know. You just really lost my respect. Sure Nate hates it also so you know what, fuck it. I might as well just quit since no matter who I play I'm gonna get the same shit for my Shitty Offense

[seen]

YET ONCE AGAIN, EASY TO REVERSE. We use to be cool Matt. But when you call my offense shitty cause I Slam you and you can't reverse it, I don't know. You just really lost my respect. Sure Nate hates it also so you know what, fuck it. I might as well just quit since no matter who I play I'm gonna get the same shit for my Shitty Offense

LOL @ this comment. It sounds like you are really trying to protect your inflated stats to keep your advantage...

[Vulcan2422]

LOL @ this comment. It sounds like you are really trying to protect your inflated stats to keep your advantage...

Yup my Inflated Stats. yup, All 70's. Really inflated all right. Only thing that is above a 70 is my Submission offense and that's just at 90. So yah, Inflated Stats ALL the way there.

[Matt Young]

YET ONCE AGAIN, EASY TO REVERSE. We use to be cool Matt. But when you call my offense shitty cause I Slam you and you can't reverse it, I don't know. You just really lost my respect. Sure Nate hates it also so you know what, fuck it. I might as well just quit since no matter who I play I'm gonna get the same shit for my Shitty Offense

Jeez, I didn't insult you personally. I have nothing against you as a person. No need to quit over it.

[n8rockerasu]

Whoa, whoa...damn. I'm just working on my LW's career and everything goes to hell in here, lol. Alan mentioned something to me a week or two ago, and it's gotten me thinking. Initially, the point of using career CAFs was so we could all progress through the game together, and grow with our fighters (remember at CAGFC1 when we had like 50 vs 48 match ups? good times!).

HOWEVER, the longer this game has been out, the more people have learned how to exploit it. The guys over at UOC were probably a bit ahead of us on this because they started with more rules (ie. having a 100 overall rating limit). But that restriction doesn't even seem to work because I've seen first hand that you can leave one stat category you'll never use at like a 20, and have over 100 in 5-6 other categories, and STILL be like a 95. I hate to call out the new guys, but clearly, you guys have mastered this technique. And as a result of these tactics, I think CAGFC has lost some of its innocence.

Anyway, what Alan and I talked about was the possibility of using only NON-career CAFs (without the glitch...which is supposed to be fixed anyway). This way, it just gives everybody an equal pool of points to set their stats from.

I don't know what everybody would think of this idea, or if it's even too late in the game to be making such a big change. But the last thing I want is people getting angry over flaws in the game (yes, being able to spam the sub button as a means for "tiring your opponent" is a flaw). The thing I told Alan is it still won't change HOW people play the game, but maybe it would even things up a bit. Thoughts?

[n8rockerasu]

The other thing I'll say is everybody is going to have their own idea of how the game should be played. Yes, there are certain things that are cheap, certain things that are a byproduct of the way the game is programmed, and certain things that you would NEVER see in a real MMA fight. But what do I tell people not to do without skewing the fight?

More than anything, my curiosity makes me wonder why Gary has no interest in advancing his position at all and going for an armbar or a rear naked choke. Is it just because he doesn't have to? I mean, if he can win that way, how do I say "Don't do that!"? Another example, why do people go for sub attempts the second the fight hits the ground, without using body punches and knees as a means to wear down their opponent? Because they don't have to? Again, how can I say "It's ok to do this....but you can't do this!"?

Sadly, there are unrealistic things in the game that are simply the quickest means to an end. People could still do these things with even stats. I mean, look at the Russell-Pennyfeather match up. Pretty even stats. But if you prepare yourself for one style of fight, and your opponent has no intention of fighting that way, it doesn't matter. The last thing I'm going to do is make up bullshit rules like "no submission attempts in the first round!" Above all else, this is a fight. The next thing you know, we'll be saying "Ok, so, no hitting faces. Is that cool?" Good grief!

[n8rockerasu]

One final note. Gary, definitely don't take it personal that people are giving you heat. Think about it. You're the Heavyweight Champion (of the illustrious CAGFC no less! I was in Wal-Mart this morning, and I overheard a little kid say to his mom, "Mommy, I want to be CAGFC champion some day." I looked at that kid and said "You're fucking right you do!"). And you've had that belt for 8 out of your 12 fights. You've only had 2 fights that weren't title fights. You're a huge fucking target (amazingly enough, not a fat joke, lol). There's no avoiding that.

But, you say that Alan can handle you. And since I'm so awesome at setting up cards, as fate would have it, Tony Hawk also won this week, and is set to challenge you for the belt next. If he can't get the job done, my Fedor Emelianenko CAF is definitely capable of giving you a run. The way I see it, somebody has to beat you at some point.

[FowlBeast]

I'm guilty of putting one stat low myself but I'm not an exploiter by any means, but their are alot of people who do. My LW he's BJJ so his clinch grapple is minimal 'cuz really all you can do is pull guard so I use those point elsewhere. I think non-career CAF's would be a good idea but a vast majority would not. Or how bout capping Sub O & D at 100(with bonuses) That would keep an even playing field. I still think Non-career would work.No matter what happens this league is better than UOC or any one else, those sites are ran 14 yr. dickheads who are pissed off at mommy. Keep up the good work N8 & CAGLeague.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Stats can go above 100 legitimately? I thought that was only a glitch with CAFs.

Personally I don't really care what anyone does with their characters, but I would think about every stat should be over 30 or so to be realistic. That is what I went for, even though it probably drug me down in other areas.

[Matt Young]

I'd rather not use non-career CAFs, just for the record.

And Gary, I'm sorry if you took things personally. It's not worth throwing away any friendship over, so I hope you can get past this.

[n8rockerasu]

I'd rather not use non-career CAFs, just for the record.

You have any specific reason for this, Matt? I just want to hear all opinions so I know where everybody stands on the issue.

[Matt Young]

It wouldn't really prevent exploitation, since people have complained about the patch not stopping overrated fighters. It would just give us lower overalls to work with.

[Ultimate Matt X]

I know I'm not the Matt you asked, but if you're wanting opinions on CAFs I guess I have one. I think they're fine to use, but I get why the commitment of the career mode is important. I'd think that maybe you have to enter the league with a career mode guy, but then your second fighter or future fighters could be CAFs. I'm for them because it's not like they have any strength advantages (if not exploiting some stats glitch) and they help keep things even if there are ways to make career fighters above 100 in certain stats, though I don't really know how much of an issue that is.

[Vulcan2422]

Well, I went overboard. So I apologize and your right Matt.

Yah, Don't know what else to say really.

[moojuice]

The slams from the guard position can be blocked and reversed...

I hate to sound like the troll here, but really, if a person is trying more sub attempts than you're comfortable with, don't go to the ground- even if you will end up in the dominant position, GTFoff the ground. There are ways to avoid going to the ground, and if you miss your chance to get back to the standing position, it's not the other player's fault. It's not neccessarily your fault either, but basically for every take down move, theres an action to prevent that take down. Even for people who can sub in the defensive position, there's still a way to get back to standing if they block your Left stick click stand up attempt (but that one I'm keeping secret).

As for NCCAF's, I could go either way, but I am leaning more towards the NCCAF. One one hand, we all worked to get out fighters they way they are, but there are some drastic imbalances between fighters. On the other hand, with NCCAF's, like Nate said, we would have an equal pool of points to distribute. If you want to bake a badass striker, your other skills will suffer. If you make a well rounded fighter, you get what you get.

One factor that makes me lean towards NCCAF's is my own experience with sparring. For BJJ guys, its easier to raise your stats because they easiest way to get points from sparring for any fighter to to submit your partner a lot. And what do BJJ's specialize in? Submissions. As a Muay Thai/Judo guy, I mostly need to rely on getting clinches to knock down/out my sparring partner. If I am doing my career "legit" (not purposely losing fights to fight lower ranked opponents), my sparring partner becomes a beast and WILL escape my clinch after 2-3 whips. I could tally some points with throws, but the A.I always sits their ass on the mat when I stand up. Because neither Judo nor Muay Thai "specialize" in subs, I don't want to waste my points raising my sub offense rating when that's not my fighting style. But, because the BJJ's have an easier time getting points, they can have several 100+ categories, and STILL have everything else in the 80's, whereas with my kind of characters, if I try to make anything over 100, several categories will suffer.

The previous example is not targeted at guys in this league, but as a general observation from what I have seen from ranked CAF fights. I always look at stats before every fight, and the only people I ever consistently struggle with in fights are people whos stats in every category are a minimum of 80, with 3 or 4 stats in the 100's. With a pool of stats, if you specialize in one thing, you will suffer in another area. If stats of our career fighters kept fluctuating, sure, then it wouldn't be too bad, but when a few people are just stacked, what's the point of fighting?

[Matt Young]

Well, I went overboard. So I apologize and your right Matt.

Yah, Don't know what else to say really.

It's cool. Glad we're still friends. You're the sexiest man on CAG, by far. ;)

Moojuice, I disagree that BJJ is the easiest. I found it much easier to get points while sparring with my heavyweight, who is a wrestler, than my middleweight BJJ guy.

[moojuice]

On paper, it basically it is. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think a sub attempt nets 20, near sub nets 30, and a sub nets 50. And for some reason, a triangle choke nets more points as well.

As a BJJ guy, when you spar, get a takedown either by shooting or from the clinch (and you won't take much damage trying because the a.i isn't aggressive right away), and bam, instant sub attempt. If your sub offense is high enough, you most of the time will get a near sub attempt. And if you spend the whole sparring round subbing, your partner cant do shit but pick up points for sub escapes, and maybe a few weak strikes.

[seen]

^moojuice for post of the day!

I like the idea of everyone having the same amount of points to add to their fighter, so skill comes into play not stat advantage.

[Matt Young]

But people will still have stat advantages in any given category, just not overall, and we didn't really have problems with overall ratings anyway.

[moojuice]

Yes, there will be stat advantages, but like I said, with the NCCAF's, your other stats WILL be lower to make up for it (namely, weaknesses). With career fighters, you can still have above average stats in your "weak" categories.

But, like I said earlier, I understand both sides, and can go either way really. Mostly just playing devil's advocate here.

[n8rockerasu]

It wouldn't really prevent exploitation, since people have complained about the patch not stopping overrated fighters. It would just give us lower overalls to work with.

Well, I haven't tried taking a glitched CAF into online play, so I don't know if that's actually accurate (it would seem weird if they just didn't fix that at all). But yeah, like I said, it wouldn't change the way people play. It would just give everyone an equal number of points to distribute. Whether that would make any kind of difference, I don't know. The other problem non-Career CAFs brings is that people could alter their stats for every fight, thus catering them to their opponents style.

I know I'm not the Matt you asked, but if you're wanting opinions on CAFs I guess I have one. I think they're fine to use, but I get why the commitment of the career mode is important. I'd think that maybe you have to enter the league with a career mode guy, but then your second fighter or future fighters could be CAFs. I'm for them because it's not like they have any strength advantages (if not exploiting some stats glitch) and they help keep things even if there are ways to make career fighters above 100 in certain stats, though I don't really know how much of an issue that is.

Well, the problem is we couldn't have Career CAFs and non-Career CAFs in the league at the same time. It would have to be all or none. The idea was to use non-Career CAFs that are not glitched. Having any of that type square off against Career CAFs would be pointless as there would be a huge discrepency in ratings. Also, I have ZERO interest in allowing everybody to be a 119 CAF since all that does is remove all strategy from the game and makes it play more like Street Fighter IV than UFC.

[n8rockerasu]

I'm still going to leave this open for discussion, but more than likely, sticking with Career CAFs will just be the way to go. For better or worse, in the end, it still rewards the people who put the most time into the game (even if they're spending that time figuring out ways to exploit it). And that still just makes sense to me.

If anything, I could see doing something to spice things up a bit and make the divisions more interesting again...like another tournament or something. This is no slight to Gary or Eric Ortiz in any way, but I think people lose interest when it feels like the champion is an immovable force.

But I would like to ask people to not be cheap. I'm not going to go as far as saying certain submissions are cheap. But if you're wearing your opponent down by making him fight off a submission that you know you're not going to get, expect to be called an asshole.

The only reason to do this sort of thing is because you're not confident enough in your ground skills to wear him out with body punches or knees so that when you do slap that submission on, it's to end the fight. Challenge yourself as a fighter. When the fight ends, you should know that you beat the other player...not that you drained his stamina bar.

And on the flip side of the coin, it's everyone elses responsibility to use solid defense. I think one of the last things people learn when playing this game are the flick reversals. I really haven't had to use them in any of my careers, and I'm just now starting to get a grasp on when to attempt one (Alan can personally attest to how bad I suck at them). Due to lag, they can be a lot harder to do online, but this is all the more reason why everyone should be fighting fair.

As heated as the competition can get, remember, it's supposed to be FRIENDLY competition. I'd really like to hammer on that last point for the new guys. Some playful trash talking is fine, but let's be respectful to each other as well. As the saying goes "This isn't GameFAQs" :)

And I should have known such a hostile environment like Sweden would cause tempers to flare up, haha 8-)

[Matt Young]

Not to change the subject, but Eric Ortiz, I still haven't heard from you about our fight. Please post or PM me.

[Mr Meaty28]

Raysor whats you GT??

[Matt Young]

It's Raysor. That I knew already, but the information is in the OP for future reference.

[FowlBeast]

Bill Brasky - Kyler Klein - Tapout(kimura) - 4:15 of 2nd - I think

Good match!! fighting panda is always fun. we are evenly matched so it's always who lands or in this case gets the sub. I have know idea how I escaped his Sub attempt only to put a kimura on him.

[MSUHitman]

Edit: Never mind he just signed on. He mounted me and KO'd me at the end of round 1 because I suck. Have fun everyone!

[MikeBike]

Yeah fowl, I always enjoy playing you. Was a great match. Hit me up whenever so we can get some random fights in.

I will be out of town next week so please sit me out this next card. (Kyler Klein, welterweight).

[sleepy180]

Crazy stuff going on in here lol.

I like the idea of non career caf's but I think it is too late in the game to change it up that dramatically. You might lose a bunch of people in a already dwindling game.

And matt x I sent you a friend request from xbox.com but I cant seem to find you on the CAGFC friend list. I'll be on as usual anytime after 4pm PST. Same to zoidberg. Just send me a friend request and we can play.

And lmao at the CAGFC avatar, Dana white. Haha just saw it. Good stuff, it looks just like him.

[n8rockerasu]

And lmao at the CAGFC avatar, Dana white. Haha just saw it. Good stuff, it looks just like him.

Haha, thanks. Fortunately, it's not too difficult to create a bald guy with a 5 o'clock shadow.

[seen]

Would there be interest for a sub-division; "CAGFC presents" CheapForce (just a LHW class to start) for non-career CAF's?

[gamcreator]

Brandon Haines | Jason Hart | KO | 4:02 of R1

I'm contemplating retiring my fighter. With Madden 2010 coming out on Friday I'm not sure how much more I'll play this game. For now... keep me active, but we'll see in a week or two after Madden has been out.

[Matt Young]

Crazy stuff going on in here lol.

I like the idea of non career caf's but I think it is too late in the game to change it up that dramatically. You might lose a bunch of people in a already dwindling game.

And matt x I sent you a friend request from xbox.com but I cant seem to find you on the CAGFC friend list. I'll be on as usual anytime after 4pm PST. Same to zoidberg. Just send me a friend request and we can play.

And lmao at the CAGFC avatar, Dana white. Haha just saw it. Good stuff, it looks just like him.

I sent you a PM a few days ago on here. I never got any friend request because, as it has been for a long time, my list is full. Let me know a specific time when you can play.

And where is a Dana White avatar?

[Ultimate Matt X]

Well, the problem is we couldn't have Career CAFs and non-Career CAFs in the league at the same time. It would have to be all or none. The idea was to use non-Career CAFs that are not glitched. Having any of that type square off against Career CAFs would be pointless as there would be a huge discrepency in ratings. Also, I have ZERO interest in allowing everybody to be a 119 CAF since all that does is remove all strategy from the game and makes it play more like Street Fighter IV than UFC.

I don't think having a mix would be any more pointless than using fighters early in their career against retired fighters. I agree with not using glitched CAFs, I don't think anyone wants that.

[xcoax]

I actually started up a new career last night on a whim and decided I was going to do something completely different, so I went with Muay Thai and BJJ as my two styles and it was like a completely new breath of fresh air into the game. All my previous fighters I had just done kickboxing and wrestling so I'm really liking learning the clinch game.

Expect to see a new entry into the Light Heavyweight division in the next week or two once I've gotten dude up to a respectable level. I told you I couldn't stay away for too long. Haha

[Matt Young]

Good to hear that you're coming back. I'm thinking of making my 3rd fighter a muay thai fighter as well so I can better learn that offensive style. He'll probably be a welterweight, since that division is less than stacked. I had considered making Rob Van Dam or Kurt Angle as a light heavyweight, but that division already has enough competitors.

[n8rockerasu]

I don't think having a mix would be any more pointless than using fighters early in their career against retired fighters.

I would say it's equally pointless. But the difference is, your early career CAF will get better. I sure as hell wouldn't advise taking a fight like that at this stage in the game. This is the exact reason I had to put off my fight with Fowlbeast so I could finish up my LW's career. I wasn't going to fight his 104 guy with my guy rated at 38. Having non-Career CAFs getting destroyed by career CAFs would be frustrating, and would just encourage glitching. I still think it would have to be all or none.

Expect to see a new entry into the Light Heavyweight division in the next week or two once I've gotten dude up to a respectable level. I told you I couldn't stay away for too long. Haha

Cool! Hope to see you back soon!

[sleepy180]

I sent you a PM a few days ago on here. I never got any friend request because, as it has been for a long time, my list is full. Let me know a specific time when you can play.

And where is a Dana White avatar?

I'm on all day today. Send me a msg on xbox live. And you really should make room for at least the CAGFC guy so that we can search him to see if your on.

[n8rockerasu]

Ok, surprised I'm having trouble getting in touch with FowlBeast. I sent him a PM on here last night, and didn't hear anything all day. I sent him a message on Live earlier this evening, so hopefully he gets in touch with me tomorrow. I asked him if we could wait to fight till Wednesday or Thursday, since I was still trying to finish up my LW's career.

Now that I'm done, he's nowhere to be found. I told him I guess I could just give him the win if we weren't able to meet up in time, but I don't want it to go down like this. I really hope we're able to meet up tomorrow.

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right guys, less than 24 hours until the deadline for CAGFC11. As of right now, there are still 5 fights that need to be completed:

Jose Aldo vs Joachim Hansen (LW)
Zippy D-Pinhead vs Joseph Garcia (LH)
Daniel Ortiz vs Jeremy Hill (LH Title)
Brendan Raysor vs Simeon Lamhov (WW Title)
Eric Ortiz vs Matt Young (MW Title)

Again, the deadline is Thursday, 8/13 at 11:59 PM EDT

Let's try to get these fights completed, guys! It's a little concerning that 3 of them are title fights. As a reminder, not completing your fights can adversely affect when you fight and what fights you get in the future. If anyone is starting to burn out on this game, I'd much rather you tell me than just flake out.

[Mr Meaty28]

Raysor=no show.......

[n8rockerasu]

Raysor=no show.......

Just so I can be prepared, how have you contacted him?

[Matt Young]

I got no response to my PM to Eric Ortiz, but he did message me on Live last night when I wasn't on. I'm going out to eat tonight, but I'm hoping we can get this done since we're in the same time zone.

[xcoax]

I think if I keep playing through the next couple of days, my fighter should be in decent enough shape to take his first fight, so go ahead and put me on the next card my good man.

CAG Name: xcoax
Xbox Live Gamertag: xH4VE HEARTx
Name: Johnny "Big Nasty" Chan
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 205
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/BJJ
Overall Rating: 53, but thats still in progress.

[CAGLeagueSports]

I think if I keep playing through the next couple of days, my fighter should be in decent enough shape to take his first fight, so go ahead and put me on the next card my good man.

Cool! I'll get you added to the roster. Glad to have you back in CAGFC, man!

[sleepy180]

Daniel Ortiz | Jeremy Hill | Triangle Choke @ 4:41 of Round 1

I'll get my Middleweight fight done tonight, just trying to get a time from Matt so that I can have my brother or roomate play him. Unless its after 7pm (when i'm out of work today) then I can play it.

[Matt Young]

I just responded to your PM. I wanted to get this done sooner, but you never got back to me till yesterday. I guess I'll have to play you at 7... it's you that's supposed to fight, not your brother.

Is that how you got that fight done even though you said you'd be at work till 6? Your brother or roommate?

[sleepy180]

My brother fights at light heavyweight not me.

But if I'm not home and the person wants to get my match done My brother or roomate will play the match for me. Like today is the last day, so If you want to fight sooner because its more convienient for you i'll just have my brother or roomate fight, whoever is there at my apt right now.

So if you give me a time I'll have a match ready to go then.

I try to fight earlier in the week, its just hard because of work till 6-7pm and sometimes 24hr shifts at the station or OT time i take whenever possible.

edit: I don't see how its a problem of who fights. Its even better for the league if my bro or roomate fight because I rock them both when we play against each other. As it is I might just have to give up the tournament and let my brother take over both fighters LHW and MW since its been so hard for me to schedule times the past few weeks. If that happens, nothing will really change though. I mean its not like you guys see who your fighting anyways.

edit2: so 7pm is the time you want matt? If so i'll make sure someones on then since LA traffic is a bitch and a half.

[Raysor]

I'm not a no-show, your never on when I'm on. Lets fight tonight. You'll probably win, I haven't played since my last major fight.

[n8rockerasu]

your never on when I'm on.

This statement is forbidden here. Not just because it's shitty grammar, but because you should be contacting your opponent via PM's on CAG and Xbox Live. Obviously, this goes both ways, and MrMeaty should be contacting you as well. I'm sorry, but if this behavior persists from you noobs, I feel like I'm going to have to ask for ID. Try communicating like adults, and you'll be amazed at the results.

[Matt Young]

My brother fights at light heavyweight not me.

But if I'm not home and the person wants to get my match done My brother or roomate will play the match for me. Like today is the last day, so If you want to fight sooner because its more convienient for you i'll just have my brother or roomate fight, whoever is there at my apt right now.

So if you give me a time I'll have a match ready to go then.

I try to fight earlier in the week, its just hard because of work till 6-7pm and sometimes 24hr shifts at the station or OT time i take whenever possible.

edit: I don't see how its a problem of who fights. Its even better for the league if my bro or roomate fight because I rock them both when we play against each other. As it is I might just have to give up the tournament and let my brother take over both fighters LHW and MW since its been so hard for me to schedule times the past few weeks. If that happens, nothing will really change though. I mean its not like you guys see who your fighting anyways.

edit2: so 7pm is the time you want matt? If so i'll make sure someones on then since LA traffic is a bitch and a half.

I can't guarantee I'll be back at 7 exactly. I'll get on Live and send a message when I get home.

[n8rockerasu]

EDIT - He's playing Mass Effect. Glad I checked Xbox.com.

[n8rockerasu]

Jose Aldo | Joachim Hansen | KO | 3:42 of Rd 3

Good fight, but it's almost impossible to compete with a guy who has a rating of 104. I felt like I was just trying to hang on the entire fight. Your speed was ridiculous. Even when I could get in close to you, all you had to do was tap a button and your shot landed way before mine.

The best strategy I could employ was to make you come to me and try to counter. It sort of worked in the 2nd round, but I figured you were just taking a rest. Oh well, I guess that's what this game has become. I think I'd have more fun fighting with a bunch of 75 rated guys, haha. It's way too super human when you're all maxed out.

[FowlBeast]

My fighter isn't super human by any means! the only stats over 100 are my Kick O & sub. And your fighter had higher Sub than mine. I thought I gave plenty of opportunity for you to catch me I had you in mount and even got up to make it fair. I'll play with non-career CAF's and I'll still win I have some skill when it comes to this game. I never sub spam or expoit any part of this game I try to fight with class. I'll retire jose and create a new LW. But I still think non-career fighters would make an even playing field for all and it doesn't take but 5min to make one. but still a good fight. and I step down off my soap box. peace

[sleepy180]

Fowl is definitly a beast. I just got home and asked my bro about the fight and he said he was probably the toughest fighter he had to fight so far. Too bad this game is kinda dying out, otherwise non-career fighting tournament would be pretty awesome. I don't think we would get enough people unless we only did like 2 weight classes.

[n8rockerasu]

My fighter isn't super human by any means! the only stats over 100 are my Kick O & sub. And your fighter had higher Sub than mine. I thought I gave plenty of opportunity for you to catch me I had you in mount and even got up to make it fair. I'll play with non-career CAF's and I'll still win I have some skill when it comes to this game. I never sub spam or expoit any part of this game I try to fight with class. I'll retire jose and create a new LW. But I still think non-career fighters would make an even playing field for all and it doesn't take but 5min to make one. but still a good fight. and I step down off my soap box. peace

The speed and cardio are superhuman. When you've got 95 in both, you can blow your load each round and it does nothing to you. And with that speed, you were jumping in and out before I could touch you. But I know, it's not your fault, man. And you didn't use any exploits. It's just the way the game is, and we're at the point in the game's life where people know how to maximize every single stat category. But my opinion is still that it's not very fun having maxed out fighters. I don't even want to know what enjoyment the idiots with 119 CAFs on Xbox Live get out of it.

Yes, I intentionally boosted my Sub O and D as high as I could stand to put it so I'd have a chance against Nick Sutera who allegedly has a Sub O of 115. But my other stats suffered greatly because of it. And honestly, I didn't enjoy pushing my sub stats that high, but with the other guys in the division, I felt like I had to.

In the end though, it doesn't matter. But here's the problem. People don't realize (and this goes for everybody here) when your CAF is so good that nobody can touch you and fights aren't even close, it won't be long before you have no one to fight...so what's the point? You definitely shouldn't retire Jose, because somebody has to fight Sutera. And with your win, you're obviously next. If anything, I should retire Hansen.

[FowlBeast]

Yeah a non-career tourney would be sweet!! I think some great fights could come out of this. We should all agree on a Weight class and have N8 & cagleague come up with a a bracket. There are some guys in here I haven't had a chance to tap gloves with. What do you guys think? Yeah or Neah

[FowlBeast]

See this is why I love it here. In UOC someone would been a douche bag and posted all kinds of hate if I made that same statement, But here everyone's respectful of each other as we are adults. I feel you my speed and such is pretty high. but there is a trick to that. Fill your speed & stamina up first, then strength.

[n8rockerasu]

Yeah a non-career tourney would be sweet!! I think some great fights could come out of this. We should all agree on a Weight class and have N8 & cagleague come up with a a bracket. There are some guys in here I haven't had a chance to tap gloves with. What do you guys think? Yeah or Neah

That wouldn't be a bad idea as a trial run...to see if people might enjoy it more. I would probably vote for LH.

[moojuice]

I'd be down.

[FowlBeast]

Yeah LH would be perfect. A great blend of power & technique.

[FowlBeast]

For the record I haven't fought in UOC. I signed up and posted in the forum, but they seem way to serious. And they love the cock!

[Tuffgong]

Hey everyone, I've been trying to get my LHW fight going with joe garcia with no result.
I've sent a few pm's and had no response, I also have never seen him on XBL.
Hope everything is alright with him and he is just busy this week, but I would like to get this fight in before the deadline.

[Tuffgong]

Oh and I would be in for a non- career CAF tourney. LHW totally would be sweet.
I think the sub offense over 100 is out of whack with the rest of the game. Not game breaking, but pretty close. I would def like to have a low point limit throw down.

[Tuffgong]

I just noticed joe2187 also either has a full friend list or declined my friend invite on XBL.
Not sure if he is still into this game...

[sleepy180]

Dont know where Matt Young is but he said around 7. Been here for a half hour waiting for him. Will keep waiting.

[Mr Meaty28]

simeon lamhov | Brendan Raysor | KO | 3:00/round 2

Simeon Lamhov released a statement shortly after his match.....

Simeon Lamhov: Who is next Cagfc, who is next??

jk. Great fight Raysor

[Matt Young]

Dont know where Matt Young is but he said around 7. Been here for a half hour waiting for him. Will keep waiting.

We ended up not getting to the restaurant until 6:45. I just got back. Can you play now?

[n8rockerasu]

We ended up not getting to the restaurant until 6:45. I just got back. Can you play now?

Jesus Christ, just get the fucking fight done guys. You're like a couple of broads :bomb:

/derogatory remarks about women

[sleepy180]

Nah i'm kind of over this now. It was great and I thank n8 for setting this whole thing up. It was awesome. But, as of now i'm retiring both my fighters.

Daniel Ortiz | Light Heavyweight Champion | Undefeated
Eric Ortiz | Middleweight Champion | Undefeated

Might have some no contests and even losses for some reason, but those are from not fighting. Nobody ever beat me or my brother here. And at least that will make the league more interesting now too since you can have two tournaments for the belts or however you want to handle it. Thanks for all the great fights everyone.

BTW, I will be back for UFC 2010 to reclaim MY belts so lookout! GG everyone.

[n8rockerasu]

Nah i'm kind of over this now. It was great and I thank n8 for setting this whole thing up. It was awesome. But, as of now i'm retiring both my fighters.

Daniel Ortiz | Light Heavyweight Champion | Undefeated
Eric Ortiz | Middleweight Champion | Undefeated

Might have some no contests and even losses for some reason, but those are from not fighting. Nobody ever beat me or my brother here. And at least that will make the league more interesting now too since you can have two tournaments for the belts or however you want to handle it. Thanks for all the great fights everyone.

BTW, I will be back for UFC 2010 to reclaim MY belts so lookout! GG everyone.

That's weak, man. The losses and draws you received were due to shitty communication which still persisted up to your final fight. Now, I don't think what Matt did was right naming 7 as the time to fight, and then leaving you hanging, but you both botched this one. What a shitty ending for a title fight.

[sleepy180]

nah man I was planning on fighting matt then retiring anyways. Had nothing to do with matt. I wanted a last title fight too but he didn't show up. Its no big deal and like i said, now you can make like another tournament or two number 1 contenders type deal.

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, finally, the results from CAGFC11: SWEDEN are finalized. The card was definitely an explosive one in the land of milkmaids, seeing both flared tempers and flared pants. Hometown hero, Gail Pennyfeather, suffered a (nut) crushing defeat at the hands of Heavyweight Champion Gary Russell.

And after the sudden retirement of the Ortiz brothers, two titles are now vacant, and will be up for grabs at CAGFC12: BREAKING POINT. Check the OP to see all the great matchups in store this week!

The deadline for CAGFC12 fights is Thursday, 8/20 at 11:59 PM EDT.

In addition to the regular weekly card, we will be holding a special tournament using NON-CAREER, NON-GLITCHED CAFs in the Light Heavyweight division. The tournament will be single elimination and will be used as a test to gauge interest in the possibility of shifting the focus of CAGFC to non-career CAFs. If you wish to participate, please post in the thread, and I'll add you to the list in the OP. Thanks!

[FowlBeast]

Sign me up!

[MSUHitman]

N8rocker, after this week's card, please put my fighter on hiatus. I'm going to trade in UFC soon because it's worth $33.75 at Gamestop right now with Power Trade plus Edge and I need money to pay for CoD: MW2 Hardened Edition (can't spring $150 for Prestige.)

I may be back later on if I can get UFC for cheap and I'll just restart my fighter at that time as I don't think I'll be able to go through career mode again. I can't justify turning away $34 when I only play this game once per week.

Uh I announced my going into hiatus last week n8rocker, remember? Sweden was supposed to be my last fight for awhile.

[DarkTower80]

Nate, after this upcoming card I will be retiring my fighter as well. I don't think I will be playing this much more after Madden comes out. Thanks for all your work on this league. It got me most of the way from NHL 09 to 10. I certainly got my moneys worth on UFC thanks to this league.

I was going to retire after Sweden too, Nate. Since the card is already done and the matchups are made, I will go ahead and fight this one as my last one instead of Sweden.

[gamcreator]

Well look at that... a few fighters retire from the Light Heavyweight and I'm the #1 ranked fighter by default LOL!

EDIT: In addition I'd also like to sign up for the NON-Career CAF tourney.

[moojuice]

ADD Post time:

Looks like Dana is getting up there in age ;)

I thought Jason Miller was out too?

Chan Vs. Young 4, can Young even the score?

I'm in for the tourney.

[MikeBike]

Im sorry man but a few pages back I posted how I will be out of town all week next week and could not do a fight for the next card. Unless I can get a fight in with my opponent today I will not be able to the fight on this card. Again, sorry but I did post earlier this week that I would not be able too.

[FowlBeast]

August 22nd I'm heading to Montana for a few days. so take me off next weeks card. I'll be back Thurs. 27th. I will also be going to Florida Sept. 18th till the 26th. I'll post that again as a reminder in a few weeks.

[Matt Young]

That's weak, man. The losses and draws you received were due to shitty communication which still persisted up to your final fight. Now, I don't think what Matt did was right naming 7 as the time to fight, and then leaving you hanging, but you both botched this one. What a shitty ending for a title fight.

I said I wasn't sure if I'd be back at 7, and that I'd message him when I did get back. That's what I did. He was good about the communication the last couple days, just not before that.

It sucks that we're losing another middleweight. The division used to be thriving, but not anymore.

[CAGLeagueSports]

Well, fuck me. That's what happens when you have too much shit to keep up with.

MSUHitman, sorry, I guess I forgot about that post. I fixed it though, and you're now done.

Darktower, I also forgot about your post (I guess I need to start marking fighters immediately when they announce a schedule change). I appreciate your bravery in taking on Gail Pennyfeather for your last fight.

Alan, fuck you for trying to make me feel completely delusional, lol j/k. I actually did PM Gary and ask him if he could take two fights this week. So, that one was intentional.

MikeBike, I don't even remember seeing that, lol, but at this point, is it any surprise? Anyway, I fixed it, and you're now off this week.

Fowlbeast, by "next weeks card", I assume you mean CAGFC13. Using numbers would really help me out here, guys. I could care less about the dates you're going to be gone. It's just a simple matter of "I'm going on vacation. Please don't put me on the CAGFC13 card".

Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and mark your fighters as "rehabbing" now so I know not to put you on that card, and since the CAGFC12 one is already done, it shouldn't screw me up any. Oh, also, since MikeBike is gone this week, you picked up another fight. Bill Brasky is fighting in his place.

There. I hope that works for everybody. Ahhhhh :drool:

[n8rockerasu]

I said I wasn't sure if I'd be back at 7, and that I'd message him when I did get back. That's what I did. He was good about the communication the last couple days, just not before that.

It sucks that we're losing another middleweight. The division used to be thriving, but not anymore.

Eh, that's a little less than truthful. What happened was, he said he couldn't play you till 7, but his brother or roommate could play you before that. You got mad about the brother/roommate playing for him, and said "I guess we're playing at 7, then". He said "Ok, 7 it is".

Then, you said "Well, it might not be exactly 7. I'll message you when I get on." That was kind of a dick move, and it kinda seemed like you did it just to get him back for not answering your PM's for a few days or because you were still annoyed with the idea of his brother/roommate playing for him. Why not just say 8? Or 9? How's he supposed to know whether you meant 7:10, 7:30, 7:45, 8:15, etc? Is he just supposed to sit and wait?

Whether or not you messaged him when you got back, it was an hour and a half after the time you agreed (or the closest you two could get to agreed) upon. But what's done is done, man. I'm just saying, I don't like people using these loosey goosey times because that's what causes others to sit around waiting for an hour. What if you had been waiting on him for over an hour? You wouldn't like it, and you know better than that.

[FowlBeast]

Right on! another fight. I was simply Illustrating that I was going to be gone for a full week and there was no possible time to squeeze a fight in. Sorry I'll keep it simple next time. Yeah CAGFC13 that seems to be next week.

My tourney fighter:
Gegard Mousasi
Overall:80

[Matt Young]

I told him 4 and 1/2 hours before the fight that I wasn't sure I'd be back at 7. That's enough time. I went out to eat with family, and we ended up not getting to Black Angus- in San Bernardino, 20 minutes away- till 6:45ish which is why I got home when I did. I wasn't driving. Oh well.. It's over with now, I guess.

Alan, Brandon- let me know what dates and times are good for you. I'll likely be home most of the weekend playing Madden.

[xcoax]

Tuffgong I sent you a PM about our fight. I'd like to keep working on my figher this weekend since I'm still in the high 50's/low 60's but I'd be fine to go whenever you're ready.

[n8rockerasu]

We've currently got 6 people for the non-career CAF tournament. I'd really like it if we could get 2 more. With only 6, 2 people would have to take a bye in the first round. Anyone else interested? As previously stated, we're doing Light Heavyweights.

[Matt Young]

Nate, I guess I can play. Is it just going on this week?

And man, I am a loser. I lost multiple games of Madden, and then I went 0-2 the last 2 weeks in title fights.

Jackie Chan l Matt Young l Knockout (flying knee) l I forgot to write down what time of Round 3.

[moojuice]

Tony Hawk | Gary Russell | KO | 4:15 (? it was 4 minutes and change) of round 3

Holy fuck that was a fight. Early in round one, Russell gained the mount, but Hawk managed to squirt free. Late in the round, Hawk reversed a slam from the clinch, and nearly had Russell in a triangle. The submission lasted nearly a minute in length, but Russell reversed out of it. Both fighters were drained, with Russel having a sliver more of stamina. Russell showed Hawk who is whose bitch by putting his own reversal immediately after. As Hawk was put into a "stage two" submission, Hawk somehow managed to escape back to the standing as the round ended.

Round two was a bit uneventful, with both fighters trading and reversing each other.

In round three, Hawk managed to gain the mount and landed a few blows before Russell gave up his back. Russell attempted to break Hawks grip, but Hawk managed to reverse Russell's attempted stand up, and immediately gained the mount, following up with fists to KO Russell, ending his reign in the Heavyweight division.

Holy Freaking Crap on a Popsicle stick. That was an awesome fight that needed to be on video. Especially when we traded subs, oh man, the suspense. I said it lots, but oh man, if that flick reversal failed, we'd be back to exchanging on our feet. Great fight.

Jackie Chan | Matt Young | KO | 3:08 of Round 3

Another great fight. Some exchanging in the stand up, a bit of groundwork, and even a bit if clinch work. Young landed the bombs, while Chan focused on weaker combos. Reminiscent of the Henderson-Bisping fight, but in reverse, Young was hunting down a defensively circling Chan. Out of no where, Chan threw a flying knee. In slow-mo, Chan's knee connected both on the way up, and on the way down.

Great fight Matt. From the standup, I guess you saw why I usually don't get flash KO'd that much ;)

[n8rockerasu]

Tony Hawk | Gary Russell | KO | 4:15 (? it was 4 minutes and change) of round 3


Holy Freaking Crap on a Popsicle stick. That was an awesome fight that needed to be on video. Especially when we traded subs, oh man, the suspense. I said it lots, but oh man, if that flick reversal failed, we'd be back to exchanging on our feet. Great fight.

Jackie Chan | Matt Young | KO | 3:08 of Round 3



Great fight Matt. From the standup, I guess you saw why I usually don't get flash KO'd that much ;)

Wow, nice work, Alan. Two titles in one night! That's amazing. It's crazy that they were both in divisions that the belts had been held the longest, at nearly 2 months for each. It's good though, cause fights like your HW one create rivalries. I'm sure Gary wants another go at you.

[n8rockerasu]

Nate, I guess I can play. Is it just going on this week?

Well, I'm not going to put a timeframe on it unless I'm forced to (ie. people show no initiative to get fights completed). Like I said, it's just a test to see if the fights feel any differently at all with non-career CAFs. The only way it would have any bearing on the future of CAGFC is if it was an enlightening process, and we all enjoyed it more. Otherwise, it's just for fun, and so people can face people they've never fought before. As long as you've got a non-career LH to use, you're welcome to participate.

[Matt Young]

I still have to make a guy, but since I decided on welterweight for my next career fighter, I can go with my planned light heavyweight guys, Kurt Angle or Rob Van Dam.

[seen]

^If you play as Kurt, no kissing your opponents before the match ;)

[Vulcan2422]

One of my greatest matches honestly. I thought I was done when Alan caught my slam. But wow. One of the best I have had for three rounds.

And I'm thinking Russell just MIGHT work his way up the ranks again to gain back his belt. Sorry, no quotes tonight. Need to be up in a few hours time lol.



Tony Hawk | Gary Russell | KO | 4:15 (? it was 4 minutes and change) of round 3

[sleepy180]

You're welcome moojuice :P

[n8rockerasu]

All right, if Matt Young is in the non-career tournament, we need one more to give us an even 8.

For anybody who's curious, the patch to not allow glitch fighters does appear to work. I had my Ken Shamrock glitched when I created him months ago, and I went into a quick ranked match today, and he wasn't even on my list of LH's (as though I had never created him).

Now, I don't know if that applies to player matches as well. I didn't think to test that. But what I ended up doing was reducing his stats to where they should have been, and when I went back into quick ranked play, he reappeared on my list. So, for anybody who has a glitched non-career fighter, you can still use him, but you can only assign 3,024 fighter skill points (the default number).

[moojuice]

You're welcome moojuice :P
Well, you were probably tired of kicking my ass every other week anyways :p

[Ultimate Matt X]

Man, what a debacle. Nate, is there an attribute that can keep people down where rotating the stick to get up doesn't matter? I've had the happen in a fight before and I'm not sure if it's something I'm missing or if its just my sticks not responding to the rotations properly. I mean normally I get in that position and I rotate the stick and I either get out or they at least block it. I just don't lay there like a lummox.

[n8rockerasu]

Man, what a debacle. Nate, is there an attribute that can keep people down where rotating the stick to get up doesn't matter? I've had the happen in a fight before and I'm not sure if it's something I'm missing or if its just my sticks not responding to the rotations properly. I mean normally I get in that position and I rotate the stick and I either get out or they at least block it. I just don't lay there like a lummox.

Haha, not that I know of. I mean, right stick quarter circles should always ATTEMPT a transition. I was waiting for one, ready to block it. And it was like you started to turn your shoulders, then just gave up, lol. Then we just sat that looking longingly into each others eyes. It started making me uncomfortable, so I had to hit you in the mouth, haha. Really weird fight. I would check your controller though. Maybe your right stick wasn't centered? If you're not busy with Madden later this week, I'd be fine to redo it. But for now, the result was:

Fedor Emelianenko | Matt Domoracki | KO | 2:29 of Rd 1

[n8rockerasu]

Just read something interesting that's fairly relevant here. Bas Rutten confirmed he's in the EA MMA game on his twitter. This is what he wrote about two hours ago:

BasRuttenMMA (http://twitter.com/BasRuttenMMA) People ask me all the time if I am in that new EA-Game? I signed more then a half year ago guys, so yes, now don't ask anymore. Party on

Makes me think EA is going with an "anything we can get" approach, considering Bas is 44, and has had 1 fight in the last 10 years. I wonder if Royce Gracie and Dan Severn will be the game also.

If they do use these old timers, they'd HAVE to put them in their prime...which I guess would make it sort of "Fight Night" style of game, where you could see who's better, Dan Severn or Fedor. It feels a bit like they're grasping at straws, but if the gameplay is solid, I'll at least give it a look.

[Mr Meaty28]

Simeon Lamhov announced today that he is considering retirement after his next match. More comming monday................

[n8rockerasu]

Simeon Lamhov announced today that he is considering retirement after his next match. More comming monday................

When did he announce that?

[moojuice]

I just wonder how much they will be ripping off THQ's game, since iirc, it's EA Tiburon after all (the same team that makes Madden).

[Tuffgong]

Alright, the tournament sounds cool. We are doing a single elimination, gran-prix style?
I will get a fighter made hopefully tonight, maybe we can make some brackets soon if everyone gets a guy made.

Oh, and xcoax, just hit me up when your fighter is ready. No rush, I will be on late all week.

[Mr Meaty28]

My retirement will not be forever im just gonna take a break. It probably happen in Sept.(NHL 09 leagues) and I will be back in november. Ortiz you want a competitioncome out of retirement and fight me in MW.
Come on Ortiz one of the most dominate MW vs one of the most dominate WW in you weight class.

Im also.....

Name: Brandon Adrian "Long Island BBY"
Height: 6'0''
Weight: 180(MW)
Fighting Styles: Boxing/BJJ
Overall Rating: 92

[Mr Meaty28]

Simeon Lamhov | Mach Sakurai | KO | 4:40/3rd round

[Mr Meaty28]

Match wooped me the 1, and 2nd round but I pulled off a superman effort in the 3rd. I know my stam. wouldnt be able to last so I had to finish it quick. I almsot had a triangle at the end of the 2nd but the bell came 2 seconds b4 I could get it locked.


P>S. im in 4 the LHW tourny

[n8rockerasu]

Match wooped me the 1, and 2nd round but I pulled off a superman effort in the 3rd. I know my stam. wouldnt be able to last so I had to finish it quick. I almsot had a triangle at the end of the 2nd but the bell came 2 seconds b4 I could get it locked.


P>S. im in 4 the LHW tourny

Ok, so you're in for the non-career CAF tournament, but you're retiring Simeon Lamhov now, right? Sorry, you're a bit difficult to follow Meaty.

[CAGLeagueSports]

Ok, the bracket for the non-career CAF tournament has been posted! Check it out in the OP, and let's see if these fights feel any different than normal. Definitely feel free to give feedback after you complete a match.

[Tuffgong]

Nice match Meaty! Your ground game is nice, it was very back and forth. You pulled off some slick reversals, then I was paranoid more were coming. You definitely pulled off a nice title defense.

I have a CAF made for the tourney

Remy Sokodjou
Muay Thai / Judo
85 overall

[ReiTuoRNhoJ]

Good to see everything is still going strong here :p

[Mr Meaty28]

I might retire september 15. not yet.(school and nhl)

Yuri Meatrenko
kickboxing/judo
85(LHW) for the tourny

[Mr Meaty28]

Im staying active with Simeon. Creating a new fighter in LW.(Scratch MW guy). I also entering LHW tourny.

Name: Oleg Papov
Height: 5''4''
Weight: 155
Fighting Styles: Boxing/Wrestling
Overall Rating: 100

*(not done yet but stop all my careers at 100)

[Ultimate Matt X]

Haha, not that I know of. I mean, right stick quarter circles should always ATTEMPT a transition. I was waiting for one, ready to block it. And it was like you started to turn your shoulders, then just gave up, lol. Then we just sat that looking longingly into each others eyes. It started making me uncomfortable, so I had to hit you in the mouth, haha. Really weird fight. I would check your controller though. Maybe your right stick wasn't centered? If you're not busy with Madden later this week, I'd be fine to redo it.

Thanks, well if we get a chance I'd appreciate the redo. I'll look for you while I'm on the next couple of nights.

[xcoax]

Tuffgong, I'm still in year six of the career, but I just hit 87 overall, so I'm good whenever you're ready.

[Matt Young]

Gail Pennyfeather l Brandon Craig l TKO l 1:24 of Round 1

Thanks for sticking around to do this week's fight, Brandon. I hope to see you back with another fighter.

[seen]

Kimbo Slice | Matt Paulson | Unanimous Decision (29-28)(29-27)(29-28)

Good fight, both fighters were hesitant to take control but Slice dominated the rounds with his ability to get his combos-off on occasion and get the constant take-downs. Paulson was no slouch who kept Slice rotating away from the high-kick and countering out of his BJJ submission attempts.

[ip0nder]

I'm trying to get a hold on my opponent, Fowlbeast, to fight for the Lightweight Title. Fowl, if you see this, hit me up on Live.

[FowlBeast]

I'm on live now. I'll only be on for a few

[n8rockerasu]

Gave UMX a rematch and the result was the same. He came out throwing huge bombs at a break-neck pace, and the smart play for me was just to take him down. Once on the mat, he really had no defense. I mounted easily, as again, he couldn't do any transitions.

I landed a few shots, but then felt bad, so I let him back up. He came flying at me again, trying to break my face, and I just said "screw that", lol. I grappled and took him down with a trip, mounted, threw a few punches, and the fight was over.

Regardless of any "controller malfunctions", I just can't eliminate GnP from my repertoire. It's too big a part of my game (and MMA as a whole, really). I probably would have done some testing before asking for a rematch, but hindsight is 20/20. I hope you get it figured out, Matt because I know you're better than that. But like I said, it just doesn't make sense to stay standing and let you outslug me.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Yeah, I should have really switched controllers. It doesn't seem to be an issue with other games, but for some reason I can't get shit going with that controller. Oh well the loss gives a good story element for my character to eventually want the rematch, heh.

[gamcreator]

Brandon Haines | Jeremy Hill | KO | 2:34 of Round 3

And once again Light Heavyeight champion!!! Wow this fight was a slugfest. Just blow for blow back and forth. Could have been either one of us knocked out!

[RyanScarp]

Fighter Signup:

Name: Ryan Scarp
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 235 (Heavyweight)
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing / Judo
Overall Rating: 100

[n8rockerasu]

Fighter Signup:

Name: Ryan Scarp
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 235 (Heavyweight)
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing / Judo
Overall Rating: 100




Is that a career CAF?

[RyanScarp]

Is that a career CAF?

Yeah, just finished him.

[TehWellz]

Name: Jacob Wells
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 170
Fighting Styles: Boxing/BJJ
Overall Rating: 100

Yes it is a career fighter.

[n8rockerasu]

Gary and seen, we still need to get our fights done. I'm going out of town tomorrow evening (around 8-9 pm) and won't be back till Monday (going to VA to visit my sister to celebrate my nephew's 1st birthday and my 27th). So, I'd like to get these fights done tonight, or early in the day tomorrow. I'll probably be on around 10 PM EDT tonight to try to get my tournament fight done with Tuffgong, so if either or both of you could fight then, that would be great.

Obviously, for the rest of the league, this means I'm going to have to post the card for CAGFC13 a little early again. I think there are still 6 outstanding fights (2 of which are mine), so let's try to get them done asap. As I've said many times, I know interest in this game is fading for some. So, just be upfront about it if you don't have a desire to participate anymore. Otherwise, the deadline for the remaining CAGFC12 fights is tomorrow, 8/20 at 11:59 PM EDT. Kick ass guys, and good luck!

[Matt Young]

I wish I had done the ranked achievements before, but I was worried about quitters. I jumped back into ranked today, and it wasn't even fun. Guys charging across the cage once the fight starts, plus everyone kicked my ass. I used to have a winning record. I used to be so hooked on this game; maybe it's losing its appeal.

[n8rockerasu]

I wish I had done the ranked achievements before, but I was worried about quitters. I jumped back into ranked today, and it wasn't even fun. Guys charging across the cage once the fight starts, plus everyone kicked my ass. I used to have a winning record. I used to be so hooked on this game; maybe it's losing its appeal.

Yeah, I'm stuck at around 77 wins. I played a bit the other day and it just seems like guys are so systematic with "what works" that it's tough to pull out a win unless you adapt to that exact style of fighting. It doesn't help that it takes forever to get matched up with somebody either. I figure worst comes to worst, if nobody is left playing this game, a couple of us can get on and boost each other (the system has no choice but to match us up if hardly anyone is playing, right? especially if we use the filters to look for one specific type of match). And also, just like in the latter days of NHL 09, most of the people left playing are the ones who dominate in this game, so obviously, they're still having a good time.

I honestly think the rank of 50 achievement (Brown belt?) will be harder to get at this point than the 100 wins. I got as high as 47, but then lost to a couple lower ranked guys via flash KO's, and it just obliterated my rank. I think I'm at like 43 now. But yeah, I really want to get those online achievements. I see people online with 330 wins and I saw a guy with 234 DNF's...which gave him a percentage of 124%, and I just thought "gee...I guess I should have cheated to get the achievement like everybody else when the game first came out.

[n8rockerasu]

Well, Ken Shamrock was able to pull off a victory in the non-career CAF LH tournament, by defeating Remy Sokoudjou by TKO in the 3rd round.

And in CAGFC12 news, Joke-achim Hansen suffered his third straight defeat. This time losing a unanimous 30-27 across the board decision to Manny Pacquiao. Hansen came out flat and several devastating punches to the head from Pacquiao couldn't knock any sense into him, as he continued to stand and trade with the boxer.

Late in the 2nd round, Hansen finally started going for takedowns and even mounted Pacquiao, but could not put him away with either strikes or futile submission attempts.

In the end, the judges were not impressed with Hansen's performance, and neither was the CAGFC President. When interviewed after the fight, he was quoted as saying "We might as well have put fucking Taylor Hanson in there. Jesus Christ! He's done. You won't be seeing him in CAGFC again. We're fucking cutting him."

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, 24 hour warning on CAGFC12 fights, guys. These are the fights we have left.

Nate Lisa vs Jason Miller (MW)
Zippy D-Pinhead vs Johnny Chan (LH)
Bill Brasky vs Brendan Raysor (WW)
Jose Aldo vs Nick Sutera (LW Title)

Let's get em done!

[Vulcan2422]

Dang Nate. Wish I was on earlier. I don't get home from the shop till about 6 or 7 ish depending really. Blah Blah.

[ip0nder]

Nick Sutera | Jose "Junior" Aldo | Tapout (Kimura) | 4:57/Round 2

[FowlBeast]

Freaking awesome fight!! Jose couldn't hold on for 3 more sec. with nicks brutal Sub technique. Hats off to you sir.

[FowlBeast]

I still need to fight Raysor for this card & Meaty for the tournament. P.M. me I'll be on for a few more now & back on tonight

[ip0nder]

Freaking awesome fight!! Jose couldn't hold on for 3 more sec. with nicks brutal Sub technique. Hats off to you sir.


Thank you, you did quite well, and to escape my submission attempts was something I wasn't expecting. Well done.

[Tuffgong]

Zippy D-Pinhead | Johnny Chan | KO | 4:55 Rd 1

Good fight, was able to get mount and rain down some GnP.

In the Tourney, Sokodjou took a beating and was TKO'd. It was very back and forth, Shamrock was able to get out of early mount trouble to come back and Left Hook his way to victory.

[FowlBeast]

Tournament
Gegard Mousasi - Yuri meatrinko - K.O.(Sweet ass head kick) 2:45 of Rd. 3
Great battle!! Meaty has excellent counter grapple skills so i had to pick my shots and wear him down.Looks like I'll be fighting N8. I'm leaving for Vacation(sort of) Sat. morning so if we can do this tonight or tomorrow that would be great mmmkay....Now if I could just get those TPS reports......What where did that come from

Still can't get a hold of raysor I left a P.M. but no response. Looks like I just missed him I'll keep trying till I pass out if not I'll take a loss

[moojuice]

(Tournament)

Neil Harris (moojuice) | Bas Ruten (seen) | KO | 4:55 of Round 3

Fight nearly went the distance. It was basically seen's standup Vs. my ground game. In the first round, Ruten landed a few more strikes than Harris, but Harris was able to catch Ruten's power strikes and bring the fight to the ground. The ground fighting took a lot of stamina from Ruten, and Harris took the advantage in the striking category by the end of the fight.

Good fight seen, couldnt get full posture in the mount for some reason, so hats off to you from keeping me off the full mount.

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, the results from CAGFC12 have been finalized and the card for CAGFC13: FEELING LUCKY has now been posted. The deadline for CAGFC13 fights is Thursday, 8/27 at 11:59 PM EDT. Good luck on these fights, guys!

As previously stated, I'm out of town this weekend, but will be back Monday morning to get things updated and contact my opponents for my fights. Later fellas!

[Matt Young]

Alan, if we don't play tomorrow, I won't be able to till Monday. Like Nate, I will be gone most of the weekend. I'll be coming home each night but will be over in Los Angeles all day Saturday and Sunday, getting home late at night.

[Ultimate Matt X]

seen, hit me up on here or Live if you can play today. I should be around in the afternoon and maybe in the evening too.

[moojuice]

Jason Miller | Jackie Chan | Unanimous Decision (48-47) X3

In a stunning match, Vulcan's Camp avenged Gary Russell's loss to Moojuice's Celebrity MMA School's Tony Hawk with a close decision when Miller defeated Chan in 5 rounds. The rounds appeared to be back and forth, both fighters exchanging on their feet, on the ground, and throwing each other around in the clinch. Miller had a few near submissions, but couldn't get Chan to tap. Chan followed up with his own submissions, but his lack of submission skill showed. The crowd had something to scream about when Chan threw an elbow from side control with 5 seconds remaining in the fifth and final round that rocked Miller. Miller held on, and won the middleweight title.
I don't usually say this, and I know someone in my position would likely say it, but I felt like that was a bullshit decision. It should have been close yes, but I really think I should have won it lol. Did some more damage to the head, escaped a few submissions, but eh, thats what happens when you leave it to the judges lol. Regardless, that was a great fight as usual.

*Shakes fist*
Moo's Celebrity MMA will have it's revenge!!!

[Raysor]

I love how I get the lose, even though I'm on EVERY single night. And he hasn't been on once when I'm on. Whatever.

I'm moving up to middleweight soon.

[Vulcan2422]

Jason Miller | Jackie Chan | Unanimous Decision (48-47) X3


I don't usually say this, and I know someone in my position would likely say it, but I felt like that was a bullshit decision. It should have been close yes, but I really think I should have won it lol. Did some more damage to the head, escaped a few submissions, but eh, thats what happens when you leave it to the judges lol. Regardless, that was a great fight as usual.

*Shakes fist*
Moo's Celebrity MMA will have it's revenge!!!


Yah dude, I hear ya. We fought it out really good. Then I think 3rd round I was just being a dick and throwing you around the ring. But then you fought back and did the same thing with the judo throws lol. I really thought I lost it Once I got into the dazed state. Maybe it was that one knock down I got on you? I honestly don't have a clue how I won that really. I'm still perplexed.

[FowlBeast]

I love how I get the lose, even though I'm on EVERY single night. And he hasn't been on once when I'm on. Whatever.

I'm moving up to middleweight soon.

No I love how I P.M. you with no response. You would have lost anyways. Believe that. Peace headin west

[Mr Meaty28]

Fowl Beast 1 - Raysor 0 :)

~P.S. I want Tehwellz(A.k.a. Current WW champ of UOC *soon to be my buddies c woods)
I also want ryan scarp also an UOC'er

Im done with my HW but I will release the info later this week.

[Mr Meaty28]

Tournament
Gegard Mousasi - Yuri meatrinko - K.O.(Sweet ass head kick) 2:45 of Rd. 3
Great battle!! Meaty has excellent counter grapple skills so i had to pick my shots and wear him down.Looks like I'll be fighting N8. I'm leaving for Vacation(sort of) Sat. morning so if we can do this tonight or tomorrow that would be great mmmkay....Now if I could just get those TPS reports......What where did that come from

Still can't get a hold of raysor I left a P.M. but no response. Looks like I just missed him I'll keep trying till I pass out if not I'll take a loss
I suck in insta caf.....lol GF and GL in the the T.

[TehWellz]

TehWellz | Mach Sakurai | KO | 1:50/2nd Round

[Tuffgong]

Dude just got stomped by tehwellz
I don't think I am on the same level as these UOC guys.

Jacob Wells | Mach Sakurai | KO | 1:00 Rd 2

Not even competitive, not on the ground or on the feet. How the hell could you pull off a reversal every time? I was lagging bad, how do you time that?
I swear next time I see a boxer/bjj w/ 1 kicks and clinch and 115 striking, 110 grapple and 115 subs, I am just going to forfeit. What's the point of winning when you are better character and have waaaay more fights and could kick my ass with a weak guy anyway.

Seriously though, I am surprised that you guys made memberships here just to beat on scrubs in UFC. I hope you stay on this site and all, but damn...

tl;dr
Bwaaaaaah!

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, guys. I'm back from out of town. First, I want to address Raysor. Look dude, if you ever whine about another decision I've made ever again, I'll suspend you from CAGFC, and that will be it. I have no problem if you're confused about why you were given the loss and would like an explanation. That's fine. But mocking my judgment (which was based on activity in this thread, and the fact that I knew FowlBeast had messaged you twice without receiving a response) will not be tolerated.

The only defense you have is "he was never on when I was on". How old are you??? Geez...I'm at the point where that's not even a rhetorical question anymore. How freaking old are you, dude? I'm not here to teach pre-school. If you don't communicate with your opponents, you're wasting everybody's time. Period.

Now, on to other matters. I'm glad to see that a couple more tournament fights were completed. I'd still like to hear your guys' feedback on how those fights felt compared to using the standard career CAFs. With the influx of UOC fighters, who (no offense...it just really feels this way) because of UOC's douchebag nature, have learned the formula for creating the perfect fighter down to a T, switching to non-career CAFs might be something to strongly consider.

I have no interest in running a league full of super-humans. Again, no offense to the UOC guys, but if we don't adapt to make it fair to everybody, you could very well run this thing into the ground. Anyway, I'll open it up for discussion, ranting, rabbling, etc.

[seen]

Although it was a tough loss for me against moojuice in my tournament fight, I enjoyed the overall pace of the fight and knowing that our abilities were in the same ballpark. With career CAF's its like UFC prior to the Dana White era, of it being a pure bloodsport as they paired professional fighters against average joe's.

[moojuice]

Pretty sure everyone knows my position ;)

But also, the nice thing with Non-career fighters is that you can tweak your own fighter week to week depending on your opponent- equivalent to changing your training regiment in real life.

When sleepy/Eric Ortiz was in the MW, there really was no point in me even fighting him since his best stats were my weakest stats. In "real life," I would have trained to combat those weaknesses, but since it was a career fighter, I was stuck with the same abilities week after week.

And like tuffgong has often said in this thread, why even bother when your opponent is stacked? Sure, you can try to put up a fight, but I think that most of us are here for fun, rather than trying to dominate in every way possible.

[Tuffgong]

I know I was crying after the fight, but I have to say TehWellz played really well, and was super respectful the whole time. I was just pissed 'cause I couldn't get ANYTHING going. Most of that was due to his skills, but his guy had jacked stats too.
I think the tourneys could be fun, and the divisions have been thinning. A change in format would probably be cool.
TheWellz: Much respect though, you played crazy good and even gave me a rematch which was cool. You're top tier on the leaderboards which at least made me feel better about getting my ass handed to me so badly.

[MikeBike]

Im all for switching to non career cafs. Seems like the lower stats seem to be more in line of "sim" which is how I like to play.

[Matt Young]

I met Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson at WWE SummerSlam tonight. Both were extremely nice.

Also, boo to non-career CAFs. I like playing as myself, or a gay black Swedish guy, both of whom I put a lot of time and effort into. Non-career CAFs are like cheap whores.

[ip0nder]

Seen, when you see this, hit me back on XBL. I've sent you messages asking to fight but you won't return my messages at all. If you need time, than just tell me. But don't ignore me.

[seen]

Wow please think about your postings before clicking submit. You've sent me a total of 1 message on XBL, no messages on CAG. Anyhow I should have time sometime today or tomorrow.

[Ultimate Matt X]

seen, we still have a fight to do right? I'll be around pretty much the rest of the evening if so.

[ip0nder]

Wow please think about your postings before clicking submit. You've sent me a total of 1 message on XBL, no messages on CAG. Anyhow I should have time sometime today or tomorrow.

Yeah, sorry that you didn't get my other 4 or 5 messages, and I only use CAG to compete, not to write messages to other people.

Anyway, here's the result of our fight.

Nick Sutera | Manny Pacquiao | TKO | 2:48 of Round 2

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, rather than making a poll on the first page, I want to see individual responses, if CAGFC went to non-career CAFs for the weekly cards, who would be in and who would be out. I'd like to get a response from everyone.

[seen]

GG Ultimate Matt X.

Kimbo Slice | Matt Domoracki | TKO | 3:04 in round 2

This fight was a brawl as both fighters came to box. Slice dominated with his combinations in the first round opening a gash on "The Doctor's" face, however in his assault he was hit on the forehead opening a cut. The second round Domoracki came out to win as he responded with his own combinations severely damaging Kimbo. After a minute of taking damage with little defense Slice awoke to rock Matt and with crushing left and a 2 punch combo and followed up punching his unconscious opponent on the ground until the fight was stopped.

[Ultimate Matt X]

Good fight seen, it was nice to have my controller cooperate again. The ref screwed me, but I'll get my revenge. ;)

[Tuffgong]

I think that changing the format would be good at this point. The ranks have thinned a bit and there is only like 18 people or so still in. Going to non-career cafs would be cool, especially if we did tournaments for the different weight classes.
I'd be in for it, or for the next little while the way it is, although WW and LW are pretty thin now... I will prob like to retire my LW fighter Capt Caveman, winless; which is sad, but there is only 3 ppl in division and I don't think any more LW are on the way.

[Dead EditHer]

Hey guys, just so i'm not forgotten i haven't heard from my guy yet, sent him a pm about the match. Anyway, I have a LW fighter I will announce tomorrow, and he's a killer.

[Mr Meaty28]

After cagfc 14 simeon lamhov is retiring......I might pull a brett favre but hat wont be for a while.(To many things going on in real life.)

[Vulcan2422]

Nate, I usually get home anywhere from 6pm to 8pm. Anytime after that, I should be good to do.

[n8rockerasu]

Nate, I usually get home anywhere from 6pm to 8pm. Anytime after that, I should be good to do.

Ok, cool. I can be on around 8:30 if that works for you. I could probably do a little earlier as well. If you happen to get home around 6-6:30, just send me a PM on CAG, and hopefully I'll see it in my email.

[Matt Young]

All right, rather than making a poll on the first page, I want to see individual responses, if CAGFC went to non-career CAFs for the weekly cards, who would be in and who would be out. I'd like to get a response from everyone.

I'd stay in, but I wouldn't like the change.

Also, when do you want to play our fight?

[n8rockerasu]

I'd stay in, but I wouldn't like the change.

Also, when do you want to play our fight?

Well, any time from about 6-10 PM EDT tonight would be fine. I might be able to do later than that, but I'm not really sure right now. I'm hoping I can get my fight with Gary in tonight too. Just let me know.

[Vulcan2422]

Sadly enough, I am retiring my fighters cause I can get a good trade in at my local play N Trade for it. It's going for 36 at my local EB for some reason (Just enough for NHL 2010 since I put my 5 dollars down anyways)

So this fight with Nate will be my last until sadly enough.

[Matt Young]

Tony Hawk l Gail Pennyfeather l KO l 2:57 of Round 3

Nate Lisa l Matt Young l KO l 2:39 of Round 3

[n8rockerasu]

Wow! It's a miracle! CAG's piece of shit servers are actually working again! I can finally post my write ups from 2+ hours ago, haha (I honestly think I preferred CAG 1.0)

Fedor Emelianenko | Gary Russell | KO | 4:13 of Rd 2

Well, after meticulously crafting a fighter with one sole purpose...to beat Gary, I was finally able to accomplish that feat. Fedor Emelianenko scored a KO victory over former long-time CAGFC Heavyweight Champion, Gary Russell, at 4:13 of the second round. Emelianenko and Russell traded blows early, with Russell throwing some vicious headkicks. Emelianenko did his best to keep his distance though, and picked his shots carefully, striking Russell with heavy hands to the head and body.

Russell managed to get a few slams on Emelianenko, but the Russian was also able to utilize his judo and perform some body throws. After one such throw in the first round, Emelianenko gained full mount, and began raining big shots down on Russell. But Russell was able to reverse the position, and fire some shots of his own before the round ended.

The 2nd round featured more of the same, until Emelianenko once again threw his foe to the ground. The massive men grappled on the ground for a few minutes, but eventually Emelianenko gained mount once again, and timed his shots more carefully, blocking several of Russell's escape attempts.

Another punch came down and rocked Russell, who then tried to make one last reversal attempt. Fedor blocked, and threw one more big right hand, which knocked Russell unconscious. It was definitely a battle of warriors and passing of the torch in the dominant champion's final fight.

Nate Lisa | Matt Young | KO | 2:39 of Rd 3

In other CAGFC13 news, Nate Lisa and Matt Young squared off in a super technical battle of strikers. The fighters put on a clinic, at first feeling each other out from a distance and picking their shots. After neither fighter fighter gained much of an advantage by staying away, Young tried a different strategy toward the end of the round, trying to engage Lisa in the clinch. He landed some big shots, and even knocked Lisa down, before the round ended.

In the 2nd round, Young again went to the clinch, but this time Lisa had adjusted. He caught one of Young's punches and reversed the clinch to his favor. He maintained this position for a good 30-45 seconds, landing both punches and knees.

But then Young figured out his timing and reversed to land some big shots of his own. He knocked Lisa down again, and this time pounced on his downed foe. Young transitioned quickly, and gained full mount. Then, for some reason, he got off his opponent and let him up. What a strange occurrence, and surely a missed opportunity.

The 3rd round began and Lisa tried to land some heavy body blows to Young, and keep him off balance with head kicks. Young again looked to clinch, and the two traded blows again. Lisa, fearful that another knockdown would be his last, shot for a takedown and took Young to the mat. He threw a few punches and worked his transitions until he had the full mount. He threw some bombs, and blocked as Young tried to reverse.

Then, he rocked Young with a big right. The crowd roared, anticipating the end of the fight! Then, as though to return the favor, Lisa got off of Young and allowed him to get up. Joe Rogan exclaimed "What the fuck is going on?!?" As the clock ticked down, Young went for a takedown and this time took Lisa to the mat.

Lisa, hoping that Young was still woozy from being rocked, went for the rubber guard, working to roll his opponent into a full mount. Young blocked the first attempt, but the 2nd was successful. Lisa loomed large over his foe and threw a big right, knocking him out cold, and bringing an end to a spectacular fight! Lisa avenges his CAGFC9 loss to Young by knocking him out at 2:39 of the third round. What a fight!

[Mr Meaty28]

Wow! It's a miracle! CAG's piece of shit servers are actually working again! I can finally post my write ups from 2+ hours ago, haha (I honestly think I preferred CAG 1.0)

Fedor Emelianenko | Gary Russell | KO | 4:13 of Rd 2

Well, after meticulously crafting a fighter with one sole purpose...to beat Gary, I was finally able to accomplish that feat. Fedor Emelianenko scored a KO victory over former long-time CAGFC Heavyweight Champion, Gary Russell, at 4:13 of the second round. Emelianenko and Russell traded blows early, with Russell throwing some vicious headkicks. Emelianenko did his best to keep his distance though, and picked his shots carefully, striking Russell with heavy hands to the head and body.

Russell managed to get a few slams on Emelianenko, but the Russian was also able to utilize his judo and perform some body throws. After one such throw in the first round, Emelianenko gained full mount, and began raining big shots down on Russell. But Russell was able to reverse the position, and fire some shots of his own before the round ended.

The 2nd round featured more of the same, until Emelianenko once again threw his foe to the ground. The massive men grappled on the ground for a few minutes, but eventually Emelianenko gained mount once again, and timed his shots more carefully, blocking several of Russell's escape attempts.

Another punch came down and rocked Russell, who then tried to make one last reversal attempt. Fedor blocked, and threw one more big right hand, which knocked Russell unconscious. It was definitely a battle of warriors and passing of the torch in the dominant champion's final fight.

Nate Lisa | Matt Young | KO | 2:39 of Rd 3

In other CAGFC13 news, Nate Lisa and Matt Young squared off in a super technical battle of strikers. The fighters put on a clinic, at first feeling each other out from a distance and picking their shots. After neither fighter fighter gained much of an advantage by staying away, Young tried a different strategy toward the end of the round, trying to engage Lisa in the clinch. He landed some big shots, and even knocked Lisa down, before the round ended.

In the 2nd round, Young again went to the clinch, but this time Lisa had adjusted. He caught one of Young's punches and reversed the clinch to his favor. He maintained this position for a good 30-45 seconds, landing both punches and knees.

But then Young figured out his timing and reversed to land some big shots of his own. He knocked Lisa down again, and this time pounced on his downed foe. Young transitioned quickly, and gained full mount. Then, for some reason, he got off his opponent and let him up. What a strange occurrence, and surely a missed opportunity.

The 3rd round began and Lisa tried to land some heavy body blows to Young, and keep him off balance with head kicks. Young again looked to clinch, and the two traded blows again. Lisa, fearful that another knockdown would be his last, shot for a takedown and took Young to the mat. He threw a few punches and worked his transitions until he had the full mount. He threw some bombs, and blocked as Young tried to reverse.

Then, he rocked Young with a big right. The crowd roared, anticipating the end of the fight! Then, as though to return the favor, Lisa got off of Young and allowed him to get up. Joe Rogan exclaimed "What the fuck is going on?!?" As the clock ticked down, Young went for a takedown and this time took Lisa to the mat.

Lisa, hoping that Young was still woozy from being rocked, went for the rubber guard, working to roll his opponent into a full mount. Young blocked the first attempt, but the 2nd was successful. Lisa loomed large over his foe and threw a big right, knocking him out cold, and bringing an end to a spectacular fight! Lisa avenges his CAGFC9 loss to Young by knocking him out at 2:39 of the third round. What a fight!

Never knew you could do this....

[n8rockerasu]

Never knew you could do this....

Guess that means you've never looked at the first post before. There's like 105 spoiler tags in that thing, haha.

[Vulcan2422]

Fedor Emelianenko | Gary Russell | KO | 4:13 of Rd 2

It was a good fight Nate. And I take my leave on a high note. But of course....we will ALL meet again NHL 2010!! :D

[Raysor]

No I love how I P.M. you with no response. You would have lost anyways. Believe that. Peace headin west

I would've lost to you? HA! Good one.

But seriously sorry for the inactivity, was really busy with work and all that stuff. I'll be more active now.

[TehWellz]

I know I was crying after the fight, but I have to say TehWellz played really well, and was super respectful the whole time. I was just pissed 'cause I couldn't get ANYTHING going. Most of that was due to his skills, but his guy had jacked stats too.
I think the tourneys could be fun, and the divisions have been thinning. A change in format would probably be cool.
TheWellz: Much respect though, you played crazy good and even gave me a rematch which was cool. You're top tier on the leaderboards which at least made me feel better about getting my ass handed to me so badly.

Hey man sorry for the late delay, and not to defend my CAF or anything but the only attribute I have my stat a 1 is Standing Kicks. And not a single one of my skills are maxed.
Sub O/D is 110
Ground Grap O is 101
Ground Grap D is 104
Standing Strikes 104

I agree they are high and I hate the fact that most boxers put a 1 in Standing Kicks O, Clich striking O and clinch grapple O. they tend to have 110 ground striking O/D
115 Sub O/D
110 Ground grapple O/D
Staning Strikes 115

Again Im not defending my CAF by any means at which I have like 6 to choose from. However I had to make this CAF to deal with the type of stat stacking abusers is what I like to call them. As for the fight, it was a good fight, I landed alot of timely reversals which led to alot of great things for me. Look forward to you guys in the future, however I will be deploying to Iraq Sept 7th, and just came here for some more activity and a possible league to get rolling along in aswell. With that being said, Take Care guys and gl in the future.

[ip0nder]

I'm retiring from CAGFC completely. Now that I've cleaned out the Lightweight Division, I no longer have an actual opponent, so you guys can have your lightweight belt back.

[n8rockerasu]

I'm retiring from CAGFC completely. Now that I've cleaned out the Lightweight Division, I no longer have an actual opponent, so you guys can have your lightweight belt back.

Yes, it's amazing what stacked fighters can accomplish. Don't let the door hit you...

Oh, and enjoy puberty.

[CAGLeagueSports]

Ya know what. I'm really sick of the lack of respect shown by several of the UOC guys and I'm going to make some executive decisions for the good of CAGFC. I know beforehand that they're not fair to everyone, but this is just how it's going to be. UOC guys, who through your own admission are only on CAG to "compete", I don't like the attitude you came over here with.

Yeah, it's nice that you're "really really good" at UFC 2009, but this league was created for far more than just to see how dominant one person can be. I know you can't seem to grasp this concept, or really don't care at all, but CAG is a community. The people here are here for reasons beyond the reach of one game. Many of us have known each other for years, and enjoy playing all kinds of games together.

Three of you guys (Mr Meaty28, Raysor, and ip0nder) have come over here and have been nothing but disrespectful to the members here and to CAG overall. Regardless of whether you care about CAG, you signed up to be a part of a league ON CAG. The OP is structured in a way for you to use CAG as the main method of contacting your opponent.

I've explained this numerous times, but the idea behind it is, some people might not get on Xbox Live every day. They might play their PS3, or Wii, or not even have time to game. But there's a 99% chance they'll still get on their computer at some point to check their email, which will show a notification if they've received a private message on CAG. By joining this league, you're expected to do the same. If you're not interested in doing that, you shouldn't be here.

And with that, I'm removing Mr Meaty28, Raysor, ip0nder, RyanScarp, and TehWellz (who retired on his own behalf, and honestly seemed like the only decent one of the lot...you're welcome back any time, man) from the league. I have a strong suspicion that the only reason any of you are here originated with Mr Meaty28 telling someone about a great place where the fighters suck and you can dominate, and then it just spread. And I'm sorry, but it's been poisoning our league ever since.

Just face facts. You guys crafted your fighters around the ideals of the UOC, and that's not what we're about. What guide did you use to learn how to maximize your points the most? If any of you actually care about fighting in a real league, redo your careers, put the difficulty on expert, and make a balanced fighter without redoing training sessions and minimizing/maximizing stats.

I completely get what TehWellz said about feeling like he HAD to make his fighter that way because that's the direction everyone else in UOC was going, but that's such a shitty way to play this game. It's too bad he didn't find CAGFC first. He probably would have gotten a lot more enjoyment out of the game.

[Raysor]

That's totally fair. Kick us off a site because we are better. I guess i'll just leave CAG all together then. Peace.

[seen]

Is the tournament continuing? I'd love to fight again in it.

[MikeBike]

So I guess my match this card (with the meaty guy) just doesnt happen? Not complaining by the way, just inquiring.

Also if it changed to non Career Cafs I would stay.

[CAGLeagueSports]

That's totally fair. Kick us off a site because we are better. I guess i'll just leave CAG all together then. Peace.

You weren't kicked out because "you're better". You were removed because a few of you have done nothing but talk shit and act like assholes since you've been here. How much do I have to stress that it's not about winning and losing? It's about how you treat others. Most of you hardly posted in the thread or bothered to really join the community here anyway. I doubt anyone will notice if you leave CAG.

Is the tournament continuing? I'd love to fight again in it.

Yeah, the tournament is still in progress. But it's single elimination, so it looks like you're out for now. More announcements will be coming. Don't worry, haha.

[whiptcracker]

To be fair I think some blame rests on the developers of the game as well. The fact that it's not hard to create a guy through the career mode with better thats than the best UFC fighters in the game is sort of ridiculous. If there's a way to exploit something, people will exploit it.

Most of the LW title holders went 4-0 then retired, including me. The belt is cursed.

[n8rockerasu]

To be fair I think some blame rests on the developers of the game as well. The fact that it's not hard to create a guy through the career mode with better thats than the best UFC fighters in the game is sort of ridiculous. If there's a way to exploit something, people will exploit it.

Most of the LW title holders went 4-0 then retired, including me. The belt is cursed.

I agree. But I think the gray area lies in people's intent. Some people care about winning far more than others and will do anything to achieve it. There have been guides out since the beginning of June on GameFAQs telling people how to create perfect fighters. But for the most part, the CAG community refrained, and kept things honest and sportsmanlike.

The UOC, on the other hand, was only created for this game, and to see who was the most dominant at it. So, yeah, anybody fighting over there pretty much had to adapt or be destroyed. I just think we have a different mindset here, and that didn't jive with what they were accustomed to. My only personal gripe with the newer guys to this league is that some of them came over here not trying to make any friends. All they cared about was beating people, and they made sure we all knew how good they are.

It's hard to have fun playing a game with people like that...especially when they have a distinct advantage. As dumb as it sounds, my only request would have been, if you're going to beat our asses, at least be nice and make us feel good about it, haha. I guess that's what you'd call tact.

[CAGLeagueSports]

So I guess my match this card (with the meaty guy) just doesnt happen? Not complaining by the way, just inquiring.

Also if it changed to non Career Cafs I would stay.

That's up to you. You can fight him if you want to, and I'll count the result. But if not, the fight will just be wiped from the card. I'll be making an announcement about the future of CAGFC later tonight, so watch out for that.

[TehWellz]

Well just to be up front, and please do not be mislead by a few members that you have seen from the UOC. Mr Meaty was banned from the UOC for this same type of reasoning, iponder to my knowledge is not very liked amongst the community, tends to argue with everyone. I personally have nothing against the guy, he has not been banned, just a well liked guy within the community. I havent dealt with Raysor in awhile, I do know however if approached with a conflict he wont back down from verbally getting involved himself, not saying this happened just stating it. As for myself, Im actually on Staff over at the UOC and will start by saying We apologize for the actions of members of the UOC and former members you have may here, that is not our intent nor is it something we tolerate in our league. Good Luck with your league in the future.

p.s- I joined simply because I saw someone had it in their signature with a record I googled it and here it was.

Take Care guys

[CAGLeagueSports]

Well just to be up front, and please do not be mislead by a few members that you have seen from the UOC. Mr Meaty was banned from the UOC for this same type of reasoning, iponder to my knowledge is not very liked amongst the community, tends to argue with everyone. I personally have nothing against the guy, he has not been banned, just a well liked guy within the community. I havent dealt with Raysor in awhile, I do know however if approached with a conflict he wont back down from verbally getting involved himself, not saying this happened just stating it. As for myself, Im actually on Staff over at the UOC and will start by saying We apologize for the actions of members of the UOC and former members you have may here, that is not our intent nor is it something we tolerate in our league. Good Luck with your league in the future.

p.s- I joined simply because I saw someone had it in their signature with a record I googled it and here it was.

Take Care guys

Hey, you have nothing to apologize for, man. Like I said, you came over, didn't make any noise, and your posts contain a level of intelligence that some of the other guys seem to be lacking. I know you said you're shipping out to Iraq on 9/7 (stay safe! by the way), but the deadline for CAGFC14 would be 9/3, so if you've got time for one more fight before you go, you're more than welcome to stay.

The issues of super CAFs and member behavior are completely separate in my eyes. Ever since the game was released, I've struggled trying to determine how to handle people going above and beyond in trying to create a devastating fighter. On one hand, the people who put the most time into the game should definitely be rewarded by having the most skilled fighter. On the other hand, when maxed out skills negate many vital elements of MMA, you have to ask yourself, "what's the point?"

Even with the (seemingly) strict rules you guys set up at UOC, people found a way around, and merrily went about their way charging across the octagon, swinging like maniacs until they KO'd their opponent. I didn't want to lump all the UOC guys together, but like I said, CAGFC was established with a bit of naivety and mostly with the idea of having fun. I wasn't totally familiar with the background of the guys in question, but it's not surprising that they ran into trouble in UOC as well. It's not like we're a bunch of crybabies who don't want to lose over here, but there's always something to be said for sportsmanship.

In that regard, I'm not even sure how much longer CAGFC will continue, and wanted to look out for the long-time members of CAG and the guys who have invested the most in CAGFC. Right or wrong, my feeling was that when we hold our final cards, they are the ones who deserve to be competing for a little bit of final glory, and not some UOC rejects (yourself not included, of course). Anyway, that was my reasoning, haha. I don't want you to think I've got a vendetta against UOC. I actually looked at the site back in early June and considered joining, but it seemed far too elaborate for me, haha ;)

[Mr Meaty28]

WTF........I gave you guys 4 great battles........Why was I suspended????....... I hate the UOC why do you think i came HERE!!!!!

I never informed any uoc'rs of cagfc. I hate raysor and why would i want Tehwellz in my division he is a beast, I did nothing wrong. The only people i still talk to in the uoc is my old camp mates. and they arent even in here!!!!!

[moojuice]

Well, to be honest, outside of being a bit hard to comprehend sometimes, Meaty hasn't been much of a nuance since his return from his first departure. (I think- for some reason I get him and Raysor mixed up for no real reason).

iPonder, have fun with your 1-5 record over at UOC:wave:. If beating a bunch of non-hardcore people strokes your ego, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

Is Game Creator V. Young gonna happen soon?

[CAGLeagueSports]

All right, a little under 24 hours until the deadline for CAGFC13: FEELING LUCKY fights. There are two fights that really need to happen and two that are at the discretion of the fighters. They are as follows:

*Matt Paulson vs Ryan Scarp (HW)
Joseph Garcia vs Johnny Chan (LH)
Zippy D-Pinhead vs Brandon Haines (LH Title)
*Kyler Klein vs Simeon Lamhov (WW Title)

*fights not required


And now...here's the big news about the future of CAGFC! After much deliberation, and taking into account several factors that have been slowing our league (parity of fighters, waning interest in the game, new games being released, etc.), I've decided that CAGFC will put on 2 more official weekly cards. CAGFC14: ARMAGEDDON and CAGFC15: LAST MAN STANDING.

After these cards, we will move to a challenge system, where any fighter can challenge the champion within his weight class for a shot at the title. Ideally, I would like the champion to defend his belt once a week, but depending on how things go, that could change. Additionally, we will continue with the non-career CAF tournaments to allow people who still wish to compete to continue to do so against as large of a field as possible.

My main line of thinking in all this is trying to be realistic, and recognizing that we've been losing fighters, and that over the next month some pretty big games are coming out, which will probably occupy even more people. Madden and Batman are already out. Then you've got Guitar Hero 5, Beatles: Rock Band, NHL10, and Halo:ODST. Personally, I know I'm going to be wrapped up in Beatles and NHL10.

Obviously, all of this is optional, but hopefully having both the non-career CAF tournaments and the challenge system in place will serve as a happy median for those who wanted to switch to non-career CAFs and those who wanted to continue to use career CAFs. My hope is that by making these adjustments, it will allow CAGFC to remain active by being less demanding.

[CAGLeagueSports]

WTF........I gave you guys 4 great battles........Why was I suspended????....... I hate the UOC why do you think i came HERE!!!!!

I never informed any uoc'rs of cagfc. I hate raysor and why would i want Tehwellz in my division he is a beast, I did nothing wrong. The only people i still talk to in the uoc is my old camp mates. and they arent even in here!!!!!

Meaty, like I said, it was less fair to some people than to others...but due to the juiced stats, I had to make a clean sweep. You've been mostly cordial in your 2nd go round in CAGFC (I'm not even going to go over your first attempt...and according to TehWellz, you were banned from UOC). But you still possess a fighter pretty beefed up according to UOC's standards.

I also took into account the fact that you said you'd be retiring after CAGFC14 anyway. Mostly, I'm just trying to cut through all the BS and get CAGFC to a better place (I think we can all agree things have been rocky). I will say this, if you would like to participate in the non-career CAF tournaments after CAGFC15, as long as you're friendly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I just can't allow stacked fighters to destroy our long-time vets anymore. You guys are making people quit. What is the point of you being here if no one will fight you? I'm sorry, but I gotta reset the balance.

[MikeBike]

*Kyler Klein vs Simeon Lamhov (WW Title)

I will just skip this fight what with all the things that have been going on

[CAGLeagueSports]

Ha, if I needed any more signs that CAGFC's time is winding down, when trying to add the new info to the OP, this is the error message I received.




The following errors occurred with your submission:
The text that you have entered is too long (100734 characters). Please shorten it to 100000 characters long.

Running out of damn room.

[Vulcan2422]

That's totally fair. Kick us off a site because we are better. I guess i'll just leave CAG all together then. Peace.

Yup, your so good Raysor we don't want you here. I highly doubt you'll leave. You'll probably just lurk around here looking for deals and not adding to anything anyways.


On a side note.....I traded my UFC in for NHL 2010. I had to strike while the Iron is hot....plus like Nate said, there will be PLENTY of fights on the ice with you guys. ;)

I will keep checking this thread out how ever to see the fights and who wins and loses and what not.

[DarkTower80]

I will keep checking this thread out how ever to see the fights and who wins and loses and what not.

I have been doing this too. Trying to see how everyone from the hockey group has been doing.

[n8rockerasu]

Posting this because it's the greatest thing ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8s6KkwPqj8&feature=player_embedded

I'm sure these skills would have come in handy when dumbass Brian Urlacher was trying to pick a fight with Bas (here's another video for anybody who didn't hear about that one).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuERSRNKZXM

[Mr Meaty28]

Meaty, like I said, it was less fair to some people than to others...but due to the juiced stats, I had to make a clean sweep. You've been mostly cordial in your 2nd go round in CAGFC (I'm not even going to go over your first attempt...and according to TehWellz, you were banned from UOC). But you still possess a fighter pretty beefed up according to UOC's standards.

I also took into account the fact that you said you'd be retiring after CAGFC14 anyway. Mostly, I'm just trying to cut through all the BS and get CAGFC to a better place (I think we can all agree things have been rocky). I will say this, if you would like to participate in the non-career CAF tournaments after CAGFC15, as long as you're friendly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I just can't allow stacked fighters to destroy our long-time vets anymore. You guys are making people quit. What is the point of you being here if no one will fight you? I'm sorry, but I gotta reset the balance.
I am sorry if my guy is juiced. he is my only WW and i made him for the uoc which as Teh pointed out am no longer apart of the uoc. I would compete even if it were insta caf. I was gonna retire my WW not leave cagfc.

[FowlBeast]

Salutations friends! I'm back from a long boring trip. I skimmed over the forum and looks I missed a lot. Mostly about super fighters. So Jose Aldo is going to retire just for fairness. He does kinda have super stats, but I don't try to exploit that. Bill Brasky & Jeremy Hill are ready to touch gloves though. Enjoy the rest of the day fellas, see you in the Octogon.

Non-Career fighters should be Headliners!

[moojuice]

Thats a lot of breakin', stabbin' and throwin'.

Kinda funy because as soon as the video started, I was like "Wait, Bas doesn't have a right thumb? Huh." and a few minutes later, Bam!

[CAGLeagueSports]

I am sorry if my guy is juiced. he is my only WW and i made him for the uoc which as Teh pointed out am no longer apart of the uoc. I would compete even if it were insta caf. I was gonna retire my WW not leave cagfc.

It's cool, man. Honestly, my decision on the imbalance of fighter's stats was NOT personal in any way. It was just turning into a trend where "the UOC guys" were annihilating all of our fighters. I have no doubt that you guys are skilled at the game, and would be right at the top of the divisions anyway. But when the fights become that lopsided, it makes you think, ya know. I just felt something had to be done or everybody would end up quitting.

I know you fought FowlBeast in the non-career CAF tournament, and it seemed like you guys had a pretty damn good fight that almost went the distance. All I want is for everyone to have that same opportunity, and to truly let skills determine the outcome of fights. I'm sure FowlBeast would agree, the next time you two fight, it could completely go the other way. And that's how it should be. If you want to stick around for more of the non-career CAF tournaments, that's fine by me.

Salutations friends! I'm back from a long boring trip. I skimmed over the forum and looks I missed a lot. Mostly about super fighters. So Jose Aldo is going to retire just for fairness. He does kinda have super stats, but I don't try to exploit that. Bill Brasky & Jeremy Hill are ready to touch gloves though. Enjoy the rest of the day fellas, see you in the Octogon.

Non-Career fighters should be Headliners!

Haha, glad to hear you had such an exciting vacation. I appreciate your willingness to retire Aldo (and I think Tuffgong even mentioned retiring Captain Caveman), but that would basically close out the LW division and leave us with no champion in our final two cards. It's totally up to you guys, but you would be set to face each other for the title at CAGFC14, and then have a final rematch at CAGFC15.

If that's something you two want to do just to give the LW division one last hurrah before we change formats, I think that would be cool. Since you both have other fighters, it's not like it would be devastating for either of you to lose, but more of just a sendoff for the division. But like I said, it's up to you. I just want the last two official cards to be as good as possible.

[n8rockerasu]

Thats a lot of breakin', stabbin' and throwin'.

Kinda funy because as soon as the video started, I was like "Wait, Bas doesn't have a right thumb? Huh." and a few minutes later, Bam!

My favorite part is how you can pretty much throw anything. I also like his little anecdote about why not to try breaking the bottle beforehand, haha :)

[n8rockerasu]

OMG, there's 5 parts to the Bas Rutten Lethal Self-Defense System (I'm saving this shit to my computer and making a DVD, haha). Could you imagine them showing this in a public school or something?

"And what about the kick in the groin? Everybody understimates the kick in the groin."

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8s6KkwPqj8

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yLPDeyy_5U

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZpEjVWHnTg


Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULtTnDVq2U

Part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtzbOUrviSI

[FowlBeast]

Yeah , I'll do the last two cards then put Jose out to pasture. And For sure Gegard Mousasi will stay in the Tournament circut

[Matt Young]

Man, I thought you meant that if you were going to switch to non-career fighters, that we'd still be doing weekly cards. If we're not, I might as well trade this game in like Gary did.

[whiptcracker]

I think there are more parts to the Bas Rutten self defense system, and it is sold seperately as a DVD as well. It's awesome.

[Mr Meaty28]

I'll still read but when you guys change the rules i will enter again(Instacafs only)

[RyanScarp]

Dead EditHer, I've been trying to get at you for like three days. What's going on man?

[RyanScarp]

Woah, fuck no dude. League, you're kicking me off this site because I'm from UOC? That's a poor, poor decision on your part. I haven't wronged this league or this community in anyway. I have not called anyone out, disrespected anyone, or made an ass out of myself whatsoever. I'm a casual gamer, not some UFC 09 addict. In fact, I was planning on fighting in CAGFC13 with an insta-caf rather than my 100 Overall.

There's no way you're going to attract members to this league with an attitude and poor judgement skills like that. Banning someone by a weak association is by far the most absurd thing I've ever heard of.

I think I'll let this community decide whether or not they want me here. If I do stay here, I'd like my OVR adjusted to my insta's OVR.

[CAGLeagueSports]

Woah, fuck no dude. League, you're kicking me off this site because I'm from UOC? That's a poor, poor decision on your part. I haven't wronged this league or this community in anyway. I have not called anyone out, disrespected anyone, or made an ass out of myself whatsoever. I'm a casual gamer, not some UFC 09 addict. In fact, I was planning on fighting in CAGFC13 with an insta-caf rather than my 100 Overall.

There's no way you're going to attract members to this league with an attitude and poor judgement skills like that. Banning someone by a weak association is by far the most absurd thing I've ever heard of.

I think I'll let this community decide whether or not they want me here. If I do stay here, I'd like my OVR adjusted to my insta's OVR.

All right, let's see if CAG will finally let me respond to you (the site has been running super slow for me for the past two hours). Yes, I know, you just got here, and haven't done anything to cause any problems. But you also weren't "banned". Notice your fighter was moved to the retired fighters list and not the suspended fighters list.

I know that doesn't mean much, but with all the UOC guys coming over with their overalls capped nice and pretty at 100 (per the UOC requirement), my assumption was your stats were just as juiced as the rest of them. If this is not the case, I apologize. It was nothing personal, but look at the fight outcomes MrMeaty, Raysor, and ip0nder have had since they've been here.

The only real trait that you had in common with them is that you had been silent all week. I mean, you just posted in the thread that you couldn't get in touch with your opponent a little over 4 hours before the deadline. If you've been trying to contact him all week, good for you, but posting in the thread helps too...and it lets me know you're making an effort.

Please believe me when I say I don't want to prevent anybody from being able to fight in this league. But as I've mentioned many times now, our fighters were not created using the same methods that most people in the UOC exploited. And having those kinds of CAFs face the typical CAGFC CAFs makes for very uneven matches.

I know you didn't even get a shot to fight, so I wouldn't mind givng you a chance at CAGFC14. Keep in mind the direction the league is taking though, and consider whether that's something that you'd like to be a part of. I'm really not trying to be a dick here. I just want everyone to be on a level playing field. I hope you can at least understand where I'm coming from.

[n8rockerasu]

Man, I thought you meant that if you were going to switch to non-career fighters, that we'd still be doing weekly cards. If we're not, I might as well trade this game in like Gary did.

Originally, I wanted to do it that way. But look at the weight classes. We hardly have enough fighters for each division as it is. I thought having the non-career CAF tournaments, but still having the challenge system for career CAFs was a good compromise to keep everybody happy, and still reasonably active.

I also think you gotta be realistic, Matt. You're already in two Madden leagues, NHL10 comes out in 2 weeks, and when hockey season starts, you'll be attending Reign games again (and that doesn't even include your sexual escapades). How much time do you think you're going to have to still try to schedule weekly fights in CAGFC?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just monitoring the trend that's already been taking place. We're losing members, less fights get completed each week, and many of the remaining fighters are controlled by the same small group of people. I just figured if we don't scale it back, it's going to start getting pretty boring. I'm not against continuing the weekly cards, but I'd like people to let me know it's something they actually give a shit about and would stay committed to. Believe it or not, but it takes a lot of time and effort on my part.