CAGFC (UFC 2009 League) - HW's Only! New Site! Details Inside! [Mobile/Archive] - Page 8

RyanScarp

08-28-2009, 01:55 AM

All right, let's see if CAG will finally let me respond to you (the site has been running super slow for me for the past two hours). Yes, I know, you just got here, and haven't done anything to cause any problems. But you also weren't "banned". Notice your fighter was moved to the retired fighters list and not the suspended fighters list.

I know that doesn't mean much, but with all the UOC guys coming over with their overalls capped nice and pretty at 100 (per the UOC requirement), my assumption was your stats were just as juiced as the rest of them. If this is not the case, I apologize. It was nothing personal, but look at the fight outcomes MrMeaty, Raysor, and ip0nder have had since they've been here.

The only real trait that you had in common with them is that you had been silent all week. I mean, you just posted in the thread that you couldn't get in touch with your opponent a little over 4 hours before the deadline. If you've been trying to contact him all week, good for you, but posting in the thread helps too...and it lets me know you're making an effort.

Please believe me when I say I don't want to prevent anybody from being able to fight in this league. But as I've mentioned many times now, our fighters were not created using the same methods that most people in the UOC exploited. And having those kinds of CAFs face the typical CAGFC CAFs makes for very uneven matches.

I know you didn't even get a shot to fight, so I wouldn't mind givng you a chance at CAGFC14. Keep in mind the direction the league is taking though, and consider whether that's something that you'd like to be a part of. I'm really not trying to be a dick here. I just want everyone to be on a level playing field. I hope you can at least understand where I'm coming from.

Listen, I'm here to just have a good time like the rest of you. I'm a casual gamer like everyone else. I have a jacked up CAF made for UOC, yes, but I also have a casual CAF that doesn't have 1's in stats and 115 in others.

I'm new to CAGFC and didn't learn the ropes yet. I have been trying to contact him. I didn't know I should have been posting here, too.

Let's just forget about this and you'll see me at CAGFC 14. :)

CAGLeagueSports

08-28-2009, 03:23 AM

All right, moving on past all the controversy. CAGFC13: FEELING LUCKY results have been finalized and the card for CAGFC14: ARMAGEDDON has been posted. As I've been mentioning, our numbers have been dwindling and we've only got three non-title fights this week. There are a couple fighters without an opponent this week. But rest assured, those fighters will find themselves in prime position for next week's big finale, CAGFC15: LAST MAN STANDING.

The deadline for CAGFC14 fights is 9/3/09 at 11:59 PM EDT. Contact your opponent, post in the thread, and get these fights done! Good luck to all! :)

Tuffgong

08-28-2009, 09:58 AM

gamcreator

08-28-2009, 12:37 PM

Wassup everyone, didn't get our LHW fight in. We just kept missing each other I guess.
Bhaines messaged me tuesday saying he would be on wednesday night. I was on wed and thur all night and didn't see him. Too bad, I know he wanted the fight to. Chalk it up to different schedules I guess.

Thanks for the Bas videos, I love El Guapo. That dude cracks me up, I can't believe Urlacher almost asked to be killed by liver kick!

TehWellz, gl and godbless, thanks for your service dude!

As for the changes to the cards, I'm cool with them and would hang in w/ my LW for the last couple cards if needed to round out.
Thanks for putting this league together Nate, it has been a lot of fun. I love CAG and am pretty much a full time lurker on the Deals board and 360 board. It is my goto spot to see if a game is worth buying or where it should be bought. This is the most active I have been on the site since I joined a few years ago.

Yea just a scheduling conflict. I know you said you'd be on most nights after 10PM EST, but unfortunately something came up Wednesday night, and I go out Thursday nights too. Tried to send you a message Monday night to play, but you were watching a movie and didn't respond. Oh well... hopefully we'll get another chance to play CAGFC15.

To be honest I probably will retire from CAGFC after 15. I'm just far too busy with work, social life, and the Madden league that it seems like a chore to schedule a fight. Thanks for running this though, I definitely had a lot of fun participating.

n8rockerasu

08-28-2009, 01:18 PM

As for the changes to the cards, I'm cool with them and would hang in w/ my LW for the last couple cards if needed to round out.
Thanks for putting this league together Nate, it has been a lot of fun. I love CAG and am pretty much a full time lurker on the Deals board and 360 board. It is my goto spot to see if a game is worth buying or where it should be bought. This is the most active I have been on the site since I joined a few years ago.

To be honest I probably will retire from CAGFC after 15. I'm just far too busy with work, social life, and the Madden league that it seems like a chore to schedule a fight. Thanks for running this though, I definitely had a lot of fun participating.

Yeah, I figured you guys just couldn't sync up, so I just ruled it a draw. This is the exact reason I thought we needed to scale back though. Fall is always a huge time for new releases, and with all the games coming out, it's unrealistic to expect people to keep playing this regularly.

I do still think it provides a hell of a good time though and is obviously the only option (currently) for MMA fans. I could even see us scheduling a card to coincide with each UFC event once or twice a month if there was enough interest from everybody (I've got a theory there will always be a good amount of people playing this the day of a UFC event).

gamcreator, retiring is totally up to you. But there's always the tournaments, and you're in the one going on now. You're supposed to be fighting Matt Young. I don't know if trying to get that fight scheduled is part of your reason for considering retirement. But I know Matt wanted to stay active and continue with weekly cards, so hopefully you guys can get that fight done soon.

Matt Young

08-28-2009, 03:35 PM

We've exchanged messages about playing, but as of the last one, neither of us had created our characters yet.And I understand why you're changing things. I just don't like it, really. I doubt I'd have a problem scheduling fights, though, because they take about 10 minutes. Plus, with Madden, I play the CPU half the time in one of the 2 leagues.

Seen, I can do our fight whenever, just not too late at night. I'm not sure if you have Xbox Live notifications turned back on or not.

seen

08-28-2009, 04:57 PM

I keep notifications off and they aren't going on anytime soon. If we set an exact time, I'll be there.

Matt Young

08-28-2009, 05:02 PM

What's the point of having people on your friend list, then?

So, let's set an exact time. I can play later today... Tomorrow night is real UFC... Sunday, I'm free, too.

seen

08-28-2009, 05:50 PM

^Its funny that you of all people is giving me a hard-time. I haven't missed any matches or games; you and that other guy are the only people who take it as their geeky responsibility to tell me I need to have notifications on or question my preference.

Matt Young

08-28-2009, 05:56 PM

Um, what the fuck? First off, I never told you you need to have notifications on. Secondly, where's all the hostility coming from? I was never even rude to you; now you're being a dick. Nice comment about not missing any games by the way. The only games I've missed have been when others weren't available to play. And even though I didn't say anything before, it is stupid to have notifications off when you're using Live messages to communicate semi-daily with others in the league.

On the bright side, my friend list is no longer full!

moojuice

08-28-2009, 08:07 PM

n8rockerasu

08-28-2009, 08:20 PM

Nate Lisa | Jackie Chan | Submission (RNC) | 3:25 of round 2
Tony Hawk | Fedor Emelianenko | KO | 3:57 of round 2

The two fights went pretty much the same way, so no use in typing the same thing twice lol.

In both fights, lots of standup, with both fighters picking their shots. In Lisa V Chan, Lisa reversed a Judo throw and put Chan in a rear naked choke for the win. Hawk V Emelianenko, Hawk caught Emelianenko with a right hook that somehow knocked him out cold. Great but goofy fights.

Yeah, definitely great and crazy fights. I'd also like to highlight for everyone that when Emelianenko was KO'd, he only had 27% damage to the head. Alan and I tried to figure out how this was possible for several minutes, but couldn't really come up with anything solid.

Emelianenko's camp has voiced speculation that Hawk hit Fedor with a skateboard, which he kept concealed inside his trunks during the fight. As if to pay tribute to the skateboarding legend, Fedor did a 720 as he fell to the canvas.

The fights really went the opposite of what I was expecting. I didn't think I'd have a chance in the MW fight, but the reversal into a rear naked was really nice and sunk in deep. Chan seemed stunned and had no choice but to tap.

moojuice

08-28-2009, 09:11 PM

After the fight, the allegations of Hawk hiding a skateboard in his trunks was investigated. It is rumored that a skateboard similar to this one http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/667/simpsonsminiskateboardw.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/i/simpsonsminiskateboardw.jpg/) http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/simpsonsminiskateboardw.jpg/1/w250.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img530/simpsonsminiskateboardw.jpg/1/)http://img530.imageshack.us/i/simpsonsminiskateboardw.jpg/ was found in Hawk's trunks. Again, this is a rumor.

When asked about the pre-fight pat down, Herb Dean admitted to feeling a "long, thick, and hard bulge in Hawk's trunks. "He said he was really happy to see me," said Dean. "It was a bit awkward, but I let him go"

Stay tuned for developments.

seen

08-28-2009, 09:16 PM

Well, I really don't know what to say Matt, I sent you a pm at about 7:10EST asking if in an hour (now) you could play...

Ultimate Matt X

08-28-2009, 10:00 PM

RyanScarp, let me know when you'll be available this weekend. I could probably play tomorrow afternoon and I'll try to watch XBL to see if you're on any tonight.

RyanScarp

08-28-2009, 10:54 PM

RyanScarp, let me know when you'll be available this weekend. I could probably play tomorrow afternoon and I'll try to watch XBL to see if you're on any tonight.

I was fighting with my friends when you sent the request. I added you though. Tomorrow night is good for me.

Matt Young

08-29-2009, 12:00 AM

Well, I really don't know what to say Matt, I sent you a pm at about 7:10EST asking if in an hour (now) you could play...

I was playing my Wii and didn't see the PM till 2 minutes ago. We never had any agreed time to play or anything of that nature.

n8rockerasu

08-29-2009, 12:06 AM

Check out what Joe Rogan just posted on Twitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q7z4nAvXwU

They're already recording commentary for UFC 2010. This year's game was a solid start, but there's definitely a lot of stuff they could improve. I hope they make the right moves.

FowlBeast

08-29-2009, 12:07 AM

Unfortunately I must retire. My 360 shot craps and I don't know when I can replace it. Thanks for great matches. See you guys soon. I hope

n8rockerasu

08-29-2009, 12:12 AM

Unfortunately I must retire. My 360 shot craps and I don't know when I can replace it. Thanks for great matches. See you guys soon. I hope

Wow, that sucks...and was sudden. I'm guessing it's out of warranty?

seen

08-29-2009, 01:58 AM

I challenge any non-career cafs to some fights. Post here or shoot me a pm.

ip0nder

08-29-2009, 03:55 AM

Ya know what. I'm really sick of the lack of respect shown by several of the UOC guys and I'm going to make some executive decisions for the good of CAGFC. I know beforehand that they're not fair to everyone, but this is just how it's going to be. UOC guys, who through your own admission are only on CAG to "compete", I don't like the attitude you came over here with.

Yeah, it's nice that you're "really really good" at UFC 2009, but this league was created for far more than just to see how dominant one person can be. I know you can't seem to grasp this concept, or really don't care at all, but CAG is a community. The people here are here for reasons beyond the reach of one game. Many of us have known each other for years, and enjoy playing all kinds of games together.

Three of you guys (Mr Meaty28, Raysor, and ip0nder) have come over here and have been nothing but disrespectful to the members here and to CAG overall. Regardless of whether you care about CAG, you signed up to be a part of a league ON CAG. The OP is structured in a way for you to use CAG as the main method of contacting your opponent.

I've explained this numerous times, but the idea behind it is, some people might not get on Xbox Live every day. They might play their PS3, or Wii, or not even have time to game. But there's a 99% chance they'll still get on their computer at some point to check their email, which will show a notification if they've received a private message on CAG. By joining this league, you're expected to do the same. If you're not interested in doing that, you shouldn't be here.

And with that, I'm removing Mr Meaty28, Raysor, ip0nder, RyanScarp, and TehWellz (who retired on his own behalf, and honestly seemed like the only decent one of the lot...you're welcome back any time, man) from the league. I have a strong suspicion that the only reason any of you are here originated with Mr Meaty28 telling someone about a great place where the fighters suck and you can dominate, and then it just spread. And I'm sorry, but it's been poisoning our league ever since.

Just face facts. You guys crafted your fighters around the ideals of the UOC, and that's not what we're about. What guide did you use to learn how to maximize your points the most? If any of you actually care about fighting in a real league, redo your careers, put the difficulty on expert, and make a balanced fighter without redoing training sessions and minimizing/maximizing stats.

I completely get what TehWellz said about feeling like he HAD to make his fighter that way because that's the direction everyone else in UOC was going, but that's such a shitty way to play this game. It's too bad he didn't find CAGFC first. He probably would have gotten a lot more enjoyment out of the game.

Not to sure where you get off saying that I have been nothing but disrespectful. The only time I talked was when I had to report my fight, and than again when I retired. So really, don't associate me with Mr Meaty. I came here not knowing anything about this league and left a champ, regardless of stats, the fighters I faced were all trash. You want me to talk bad about your league? Okay.

You want to make a league for a game that you know people are going to be competitive in, yet you complain when it gets tough. You call the 110 and 115 stats cheating or an exploit, no, it's not. It's called taking the time to make the perfect fighter. If you don't like it, make it a insta-caf only league and tell people that before they enter. You have fighters from another league come in and dominate and show you what created fighters should be like, and you cry and bitch about it.

Don't blame others when you are the ones to blame. Quit bitching about our stats and learn to make a proper fighter.

AND LEARN TO REVERSE! God..

moojuice

08-29-2009, 12:07 PM

Not to sure where you get off saying that I have been nothing but disrespectful. The only time I talked was when I had to report my fight, and than again when I retired. So really, don't associate me with Mr Meaty. I came here not knowing anything about this league and left a champ, regardless of stats, the fighters I faced were all trash. You want me to talk bad about your league? Okay.

You want to make a league for a game that you know people are going to be competitive in, yet you complain when it gets tough. You call the 110 and 115 stats cheating or an exploit, no, it's not. It's called taking the time to make the perfect fighter. If you don't like it, make it a insta-caf only league and tell people that before they enter. You have fighters from another league come in and dominate and show you what created fighters should be like, and you cry and bitch about it.

Don't blame others when you are the ones to blame. Quit bitching about our stats and learn to make a proper fighter.

AND LEARN TO REVERSE! God..

Ok, so you go into a league knowing that you are better statistically, wipe out a league, say that nobody is worth your time so you are leaving, and you assume that no one has issues and no one will take that as disrespect?

This league wasn't made to find the best-of-the-best. On the other hand, that's what the UOC was made for. This league is a community league, we don't go out to recruit non-members into this league. Nearly all the fighters minus the recent UOC additions have been on this site for a long time. We didn't join this league to pit fighters that we put hours upon hours into. Most these fighters were made when the game first came out, so we didn't know how to fully optimize our fighters. But, most of us also don't have the luxury of going through career again, and would rather fight these weekly cards.

What some of the "stacked" fighters have done is the equivalent of a High School baseball team joining an adult softball league, kicking everyone's asses, and trash talking in the process. Not all of us have the time to/want to put time into running the same routine over and over in Career just to have a fighting chance, so other community members stuck with their original fighters as well in the interest of competition.

If you want to show people what a proper fighter should be like, go stick with a competitive league. What have you proved here by coming in and dominating? That your stats make a difference, not that you are a better fighter. Hell, according to your sig over at UOC, you don't even have a winning record over there.

And we never considered non-career CAF's until now because stacked fighters weren't a problem until a few newcomers came in with stacked fighters, so now the problem is being addressed.

And why do you even care to begin with? You don't even care about being part of the community. In your own words, "The only time I talked was when I had to report my fight, and than again when I retired." You can do the same thing by playing random people online, and you can do it more often. Is coming in and beating people who you know are less skilled than you really that important?

CAGLeagueSports

08-29-2009, 12:16 PM

A bunch of dumb shit...

AND LEARN TO REVERSE! God..

The game is far less realistic when using maxed out CAFs. This is a generally accepted fact among the community. You don't know jack shit about what you're talking about and have proven your lack of intelligence multiple times over.

I didn't start this league for people to do whatever it takes to win and act like jackasses. And I certainly didn't make it with the intent of drawing people in from other websites (although, I don't mind it...but things still need to be fair). This league was created for the members of the CAG community to play together and have fun. So, forgive me for my candor, but I could personally give a shit about being "fair" to you.

Regardless of whether exploiting the game and creating "the perfect" fighter is right or wrong, why the fuck would I just continue to allow you to beat on people who don't stand much of a chance due to the fact that this league was not created with intention of people going to those measures when making a CAF?

Did you even play on a difficulty higher than easy? If you think that's fun, you truly are a loser. I'm sure you also enjoy beating up your 6 year-old little brother. For as much as you want to say we've been crying about losing, look who's making all the noise, and trying to defend his juiced up fighter now. I thought you were done with this site, remember?

Soodmeg

08-29-2009, 01:15 PM

Wow, I leave the UFC league and it goes to shit.

Good job N8 way to keep rif raff out of the league for the benefit of CAG.

n8rockerasu

08-29-2009, 01:40 PM

Wow, I leave the UFC league and it goes to shit.

Good job N8 way to keep rif raff out of the league for the benefit of CAG.

Thanks, Sood. Just trying to keep it real.

Oh, and the more I keep digging around Youtube, the greater the Bas material I find, haha. Check this one out, guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKQxQitw3w

Mr Meaty28

08-29-2009, 01:48 PM

lol.....IDC i just want to fight

moojuice

08-29-2009, 01:57 PM

iponderthey blame us for having juiced guys while the whole WW has juiced guys and so does HW. Its just they are afraid of skill level not stats. CAGFC I hope you evolve im sorry i played this game alot and became good aand know how to reverse.
Are you fucking stupid? UOC pretty much was the WW division. Not one non-UOC HW guy is over 100 Overall. As a 97, I am the highest non-UOC HW, and not one of my stats are over 100. Tell yourself whatever it takes I guess...

n8rockerasu

08-29-2009, 03:41 PM

lol.....IDC i just want to fight

Oh, Meaty. It's too bad your original post got quoted before you could change it. If that's really how you feel, and you're so worried about defending ip0nder, you can follow him out the door. If you guys had any confidence in your "skill", whatsoever, you would have no problem using balanced fighters. Maybe your loss to FowlBeast in the LH tournament made you doubt yourself.

Either way, keep holding onto your shitty attitude, and enjoy having nowhere to fight. That's the last I'm going to say about all this bullshit. If you continue posting garbage comments in the thread, I'll be contacting a CAG moderator.

Tuffgong

08-30-2009, 01:03 AM

Ultimate Matt X

08-30-2009, 02:03 AM

Ryan, sorry if I missed you today. I was at a football game. I should be around tomorrow evening though and some of the afternoon.

n8rockerasu

08-30-2009, 03:09 AM

Dude, whats going on in here?
Most of the guys from UOC had pretty strong ranked records and played a lot to get good and competitive.
To come in with mini/maxed stats 1s and 115s on top of hundreds and hundreds of ranked matches was just super overkill. TehWellz was ranked 45 on XBL out of everyone!
I don't understand the urge to join a site like this and beat on casual players for no prizes and not take part in what else CAG has to offer.
But anyways I have only one thing to say about it....

wieners.

lol...an interesting perspective Tuffgong. Let's just try to let it go and move on though. I've requested that they stop the mudslinging. So, it's only fair that we do the same.

As a side note though to show how effective the mini/maxed method is (and something that THQ better find a way to fix for next year), I fought a guy earlier today whose CAF had a 71 overall rating. When I checked his individual stats, he had 90 strength, 90 speed, and 85 cardio. His striking o was 92, his ground striking o was 98, and his submission o and d were 105.

It's sad that the stats can be skewed that badly because anybody who didn't thoroughly look over his fighter beforehand would think they were in for an easy fight. I think I ended up losing that fight because he caught me a couple times with his gorilla punches and rocked me.

On the bright side, I finally got the 100 win achievement today. In the past 2 days, I've fought a guy with over 800 total fights, a guy with a 78-0 record (actually didn't fight him...he backed out of the matchup), and a guy with 200% DNF's (who "surprisingly" quit as soon as I gained the mount).

My record stands at 100-105. Considering all the quitters I ran into before the patch, I'm happy just to be close to .500. I'm also stuck at level 45 and don't know if I'll ever get up to 50. It just seems way too easy to lose points, and way too difficult to earn them.

Tuffgong

08-30-2009, 02:11 PM

lol...an interesting perspective Tuffgong. Let's just try to let it go and move on though. I've requested that they stop the mudslinging. So, it's only fair that we do the same.

As a side note though to show how effective the mini/maxed method is (and something that THQ better find a way to fix for next year), I fought a guy earlier today whose CAF had a 71 overall rating. When I checked his individual stats, he had 90 strength, 90 speed, and 85 cardio. His striking o was 92, his ground striking o was 98, and his submission o and d were 105.

It's sad that the stats can be skewed that badly because anybody who didn't thoroughly look over his fighter beforehand would think they were in for an easy fight. I think I ended up losing that fight because he caught me a couple times with his gorilla punches and rocked me.

On the bright side, I finally got the 100 win achievement today. In the past 2 days, I've fought a guy with over 800 total fights, a guy with a 78-0 record (actually didn't fight him...he backed out of the matchup), and a guy with 200% DNF's (who "surprisingly" quit as soon as I gained the mount).

My record stands at 100-105. Considering all the quitters I ran into before the patch, I'm happy just to be close to .500. I'm also stuck at level 45 and don't know if I'll ever get up to 50. It just seems way too easy to lose points, and way too difficult to earn them.

Yeah the stat system is strange sometimes, I only play ranked with UFC fighters to save on aggravation. Quitters suck when your trying to level up, I beat a level 79 and he dc'ed when I locked in the armbar so I didn't get any points.
the 200% DNFs make me laugh, I usually taunt them at the matchmaking screen for lulz, some of them have promised not to quit and have actually manned up and taken the loss.
I don't ever seem to get the trophy multiplier for the medals anymore, does this work for anyone now? without it it is too hard to get points against someone similar level to yourself.

n8rockerasu

08-30-2009, 02:18 PM

Yeah the stat system is strange sometimes, I only play ranked with UFC fighters to save on aggravation. Quitters suck when your trying to level up, I beat a level 79 and he dc'ed when I locked in the armbar so I didn't get any points.
the 200% DNFs make me laugh, I usually taunt them at the matchmaking screen for lulz, some of them have promised not to quit and have actually manned up and taken the loss.
I don't ever seem to get the trophy multiplier for the medals anymore, does this work for anyone now? without it it is too hard to get points against someone similar level to yourself.

No, I don't ever get the trophy multipliers anymore either. A couple nights ago I had a 6 fight win streak, and moved my rank up like one level because I was beating people close to the same rank as me. I doubt I'll ever get the gold medals achievement or the million fans achievement either. I'm not a real big fan of online achievements in the first place, but this game has way too many.

Matt Young

08-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Seen, let me know when you can play. Just suggest a time/date and if I'm available, we'll do it.

seen

08-30-2009, 03:50 PM

I can play at around 5pm pst / 8pm est tonight. If that time doesn't work, shoot me a pm.

Matt Young

08-30-2009, 05:04 PM

I can't play then since that's the same time I have a Madden league game scheduled for. I could play before the game or after.

Ultimate Matt X

08-30-2009, 10:59 PM

Ryan, probably going to be away from the Xbox soon so it looks like we won't be able to do our fight tonight, but let me know if you can be around tomorrow evening. I should be free.

n8rockerasu

09-01-2009, 10:59 PM

Yeah, so I'm bumping this off of page 2. Despite FowlBeast going down to the RRoD, there are still some fights guys. Everyone's not just giving up are they?

Tuffgong

09-01-2009, 11:06 PM

Hey I have family in town, but will try and get these fights done.
Please PM me when it will be good.

Ultimate Matt X

09-02-2009, 12:25 AM

Ryan, any update? I should be around all evening tomorrow to play.

seen

09-02-2009, 12:37 AM

Don't know what happened with ya Matt Young, let me know when you might want to play.

MikeBike

09-03-2009, 12:53 AM

CAGLeagueSports

09-03-2009, 01:34 AM

Im sorry but I am going to have to forfeit. I had to go out of town for a few days for family stuff and thought I would be back in time. Well I then toar my Rotator Cuff (well maybe) and will have to stay here and get an MRI which wont be till friday. Again I am sorry.

Hey, it's cool, man. I'm sorry about your shoulder. You're not secretly Brett Favre, are you? haha. As I said, I think people are tiring of this game anyway. CAGFC15 will be the final weekly card. I've actually thought of starting a little side project to gear up for UFC2010...possibly to expand CAGFC even beyond the reach of CAG, to add a little more longevity to the game.

Basically, something similar to UOC, but with a well established rule set to keep things from getting out of hand (ie. setting a minimum for all stat categories at something like 40). Anybody who isn't intending on trading the game in can participate in a beta run, but that won't be for at least a month or two. Just something I'm thinking about to make for a better experience next year.

As for CAGFC14, geez, let's see...with FowlBeast and MikeBike both being out of commission, I guess that leaves us with 3 possible fights that could still be completed.

Matt Domoracki vs Ryan Scarp (HW)
Zippy D-Pinhead vs Johnny Chan (LH)
Gail Pennyfeather vs Kimbo Slice (HW)

I know there's not a whole lot of incentive to get these fights done, guys, but let's try to finish strong. The biggest problem standing out to me that's preventing these fights from happening seems to be communication. At least try to make an effort. Deadline's in less than 24 hours.

Mr Meaty28

09-03-2009, 04:03 AM

Alrighty guys did we go to insta cafs yet? an could you please take simeon lamhov off the suspended list and put him in retired fighters plz.

Im currently working on a HW with low stats at 50 instead of 1.

Mr Meaty28

09-03-2009, 04:27 AM

Oh, Meaty. It's too bad your original post got quoted before you could change it. If that's really how you feel, and you're so worried about defending ip0nder, you can follow him out the door. If you guys had any confidence in your "skill", whatsoever, you would have no problem using balanced fighters. Maybe your loss to FowlBeast in the LH tournament made you doubt yourself.

Either way, keep holding onto your shitty attitude, and enjoy having nowhere to fight. That's the last I'm going to say about all this bullshit. If you continue posting garbage comments in the thread, I'll be contacting a CAG moderator.
Say what you will none of my stats for Simeon are over 100. Now you guys are turning on my i have a righ to still be pissed uoc members got me banned there and they are getting me suspended here. I beat all the WW members not from stats but from stratagy im not a 24/7 gamer but im good at video games. Im now out of to great leagues because people say stuff about me. I have not competed in the uoc in 2 months just to let you know. Im 2-0-0 in WW in the UOC, and 4-0-0 in ww the cagfc. I respect the players i beat send them a msg saying GF. Then guess what???? I say good fight on here to??? Im one of the best sports on this league.
Well I as in-love with this league of a bunch of chilll guys who dont start shit but now im seeing its true face. In the end you guys are like the UOC now willing to see the truth.

[EDIT]---- Im not like the other UOC'rs and frankly dont like them. And now im being portrayed as a bad person because i play a video game better tham some of you? And you guys who dont know me never even talked to me in person are judging me? I just have one more sentence, I get banned/suspended for other fighters actions, it just seems really funcked up.

[EDIT2]---In the LH tourny we stood up the whole time(i used MT for the first time then). Im no makng excuses he beat me fair and square he is a great opponent and a good rival. But i find it that your saying I doubt myself. We'll want to have a little friendly spar you use career caf and i will use insta in your division and mabye I can change you mind on how much I doubt myself. I thnk someone else is having a bad attitude. And I believe the cagfc is trying to make an uoc haulocost(not spelled right). hich i am not a member of. Im not trying to get back at the cagfc for injustices i just want my name cleared.

Mr Meaty28

09-03-2009, 05:30 AM

iponder, should have a right to be angry even though he has a seriosly shitty attitude, he and other uoc'rs should be able to fight without people saying they cheat. This is a video game its ment to have fun not ubber drama packed. I should know because i caused alot of drama in the uoc and i was punished there even though I dislike all the members who joined this league i think they have a right to compete. I would feel the same if one of you joined the uoc an got banned for no reason.

seen

09-03-2009, 01:12 PM

Why are you still bothering to post? He said his mind was made up and you haven't given anyone a good reason to want you back based on your last postings (the opposite of what you want).

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 02:54 PM

Don't know what happened with ya Matt Young, let me know when you might want to play.

The other day, you said you might be available at a certain time. I responded asking you to PM me when you new for sure if you'd be able to play, and you never did.

I was actually just getting on here to message you. Can you play anytime between 8-9:45 P.M. Eastern? I have a Madden game at 10 Eastern.

CAGLeagueSports

09-03-2009, 03:20 PM

Meaty, what is it about you that makes you unable to comprehend anything? As I said, there's no personal vendetta (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vendetta) against UOC fighters. Notice Ryan Scarp fighting on this very card (although he's hardly been in touch with his opponent or been on CAG, which was one of my main reasons for being skeptical of UOC guys in the first place). I'll spell it out for you.

1. Fighters were removed from the roster for being juiced.

2. Fighters were suspended for having poor attitudes and being generally belligerent (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belligerent) toward others.

You've waivered back and forth between those two points. But if you can't see how making claims that you're "just better than everybody else" and that the people with juiced fighters were "just more skilled than everyone else", you clearly don't get it. YOU HAVING A JUICED FIGHTER WAS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. You were actually doing yourself a disservice because whether you were better than anybody or not was virtually impossible to distinguish because of the fact that the fighters were so imbalanced.

And finally, how can your brain not comprehend that when you've stirred up trouble in a place and you're on thin ice, the BEST thing for you to do is just keep your mouth shut and move along. Your "need" to speak on ip0nder's behalf is what brought this last bit down on you. At this point, my decision is that you're not worth the trouble. Deal with it.

seen

09-03-2009, 03:29 PM

Matt your attitude sucks and I don't appreciate you not being truthful when making public posts. On 8-31 you sent me a pm asking if 8:30pm EST would work I responded via pm, thats fine I'll be online. You no-showed and didn't message me; now you post on the forums acting like I'm disorganized?

I will be available at 9pm EST, but your attitude of ignoring pm's and only posting here is juvenile.

Mr Meaty28

09-03-2009, 03:47 PM

Mr Meaty28

09-03-2009, 04:09 PM

Forget it iponder is an asshole i tell him and uoc'rs i stick up for them and i get im just as big a loser as they are i give up fuck the uoc......home of the biggest asshole...

n8rockerasu

09-03-2009, 05:14 PM

Alright I understand juiced stats but just make the least stat 35 for a career fighter then. I solved the problem. I thought you banned all of them because tehwells exposed them nvm. Im gonna do some reading.

[EDit] Juiced fighter......I used the exact same points that fowl and other fighters at 100 used. Im not even done with simeon lamhovs career want me to bring everything up to 50 so im a lvl 111???

****I didnt read post after i was suspended i just came back today*****
Im currently working on a overal 100 with low stats 50. Can i still participate in this league o is that to juiced?

[edit2]- can you remove unsportsman like from my cafs name.(Just put juice stats)

Dude...just give it a rest. Obviously there are ways to improve the league for the better (in fact, the one you mentioned has already been brought up). If you haven't noticed, right now, there aren't a lot of fights happening anyway.

If the test league for next year happens in a month or two, you might be able to get in on that. But even with equal fighters, you'll still be expected to be decent to people. Talking shit and saying how you're "more skilled than everybody" isn't a great way to make friends. It's UNSPORTSMANLIKE. See where I'm going with this?

xcoax

09-03-2009, 06:21 PM

I know I haven't personally had time to even check this thread in forever because school is kicking my ass right now. I barely even have time to play anything for fun, let alone for the league.

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 07:39 PM

I know I haven't personally had time to even check this thread in forever because school is kicking my ass right now. I barely even have time to play anything for fun, let alone for the league.

Already? It's only September 3rd.

Matt your attitude sucks and I don't appreciate you not being truthful when making public posts. On 8-31 you sent me a pm asking if 8:30pm EST would work I responded via pm, thats fine I'll be online. You no-showed and didn't message me; now you post on the forums acting like I'm disorganized?

I will be available at 9pm EST, but your attitude of ignoring pm's and only posting here is juvenile.

I don't appreciate you being a lying jackass. I asked you to play the other day and you said, "That should work." I responded saying, "Let me know once you know for sure if you can play at that time." You never responded to me, and you were not online during that time anyway. I can take a picture of the PM's if necessary.

I'm not the only one who you've annoyed. Others have had similar complaints, including one person in charge saying, "he's a nut job lol... he's kinda high strung. has lots of opinions about everything and generally thinks he's right. not a bad guy...but quirky and somewhat whiny haha"

I have proof of everything I've said. You never responded to my last PM, and I couldn't message you on Live because you've already said that your notifications were turned off. I will be on at 9 Eastern, but after all this, I won't be waiting around. I'll wait for your challenge until 9:05 Eastern.

seen

09-03-2009, 07:49 PM

EDIT: Grow up Matt!

Its evident you didn't want to play from the beginning when you conveniently signed off XBL after your Madden game on Sunday when you also mentioned being free.

Anyhow, your "others" complaining comment sounds like a fox news segment; no real proof. I'm just sick of your attitude; for your info my notifications were on since 8-31 as we were scheduled to play..Looks like your covering your bases by complaining so you give others the impression you are trying.

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 08:01 PM

I never said I messaged you on Live. I said I didn't bother because you told me your "notifications were off and there was no way they were going back on anytime soon." I signed off afetr the Madden game because you said, "I'll be be watching so I can invite you when your game is ending" but you never eevn signed on, so I wasn't about to wait around.

I can provide proof of everything you said. As for the comment that you compared to a Fox News segment, I can show you proof of that, too, but I won't reveal who said it witho0ut their permission.

The bottom line is, seen, most people who have had to deal with you think you're acting really, really dumb, and you continue to prove us right.

seen

09-03-2009, 08:12 PM

Wow Matt I'm hurt, can you pass me a kleenex when you get the chance. :grouphug: Also if the person who actually made the comment meant it, I really don't see why they wouldn't just post it.

n8rockerasu

09-03-2009, 08:23 PM

damn...you guys really need to fight. Settle it in the cage!

And for the record, this is why I'm a big fan of one person stating an available timeframe and the other person just choosing a time, and that being it. All this going back and forth just creates an endless loop of needless bullshit. It's better just making a concrete decision and sticking to it.

seen

09-03-2009, 08:36 PM

n8rockerasu

09-03-2009, 08:44 PM

Well said, I agree 100%. Matt, are we still on for 9pm EST or do you have some other comments you need to tell me about?

ahhh, both of you, stop asking for further confirmation from the other person, lol. He said he'd be on at 9PM EST, but isn't waiting all night (till 9:05 PM EST). Therefore, if you show up on time, this fight should happen. It's no more complicated than that.

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 08:54 PM

What Nate said.

seen

09-03-2009, 09:00 PM

^How rude; I'm on XBL if you decide to sign-on sooner.

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 09:16 PM

How the hell is that rude?

seen

09-03-2009, 10:11 PM

Matt, I've been waiting are we playing or not?

EDIT: A repeat of Monday night, thanks for not showing up.

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 10:24 PM

Um, no fuckbag. You were the one who didn't show up. You were "Away" according to Xbox.com, and didn't even have UFC in your console. I, on the other hand, sent voice messages to Nate (who was online) shortly after the time I signed on (8:57 Eastern) and before I signed off (9:05 Eastern, since I said beforehand I wouldn't wait longer), proving that I was online and that you are full of shit.

seen

09-03-2009, 10:35 PM

What, I sent you a message on XBL and sent a friend request so shut up with this you liar. You sent me 0 messages...

Matt Young

09-03-2009, 10:44 PM

I never sent you any messages because you turn off your notifications. You were supposed to challenge me at 9 P.M. Eastern. I told you I'd be on and would only be waiting 5 minutes. Also, the last XBL message you sent me before 9:09 today (after I had signed off, which you knew) was on 8/27 and it pertained to your farcical Madden league and not UFC.

As I said, I messaged Nate so he's a witness. I did my part. I'm not going to continue messing around with you and your lack of reliability when I could be doing homework.

seen

09-03-2009, 10:47 PM

I was online, and I have a computer right next to my tv and have a browser open to xbox.com so you just didn't even try to communicate, I was waiting for you to send me the invite so I knew you were on; you deleted me from your friends list again and you have privacy settings enabled so I can't even see if your on.

n8rockerasu

09-03-2009, 11:52 PM

Jesus Christ! You guys should get married. I've never seen two people agree on a time to meet, see each other online, and STILL be incapable of getting something done. Take this to heart, you've both got way too much pride.

When you reach a point that you're bickering over someone not having the disc in the drive, or that you're waiting on the other one to send an invite, you need to get a fucking grip. The only thing that got in the way from making this fight happen was your dislike for each other and your egos.

The winner of this fight WAS supposed to get a title shot against moojuice at CAGFC15. But with this kind of behavior, neither of you deserve it. Get the fucking fight done, or neither fighter will be on that card.

Matt Young

09-04-2009, 01:04 AM

Tuffgong

09-04-2009, 01:46 AM

Man, I had all my fights fall through this week...
Fowlbeast and mikebike out.
xcoax never pm'ed me back and I never saw him on XBL.
I did see where he posted on this forum saying he has been super-busy, though.
Oh well, I guess there is next week.
Looks like LW and WW divisions are basically done, please set me up with a decent LHW fight.

n8rockerasu

09-04-2009, 01:46 AM

What? I've done all I can to make the fight happen. I don't know why I've gone to so much trouble when you're giving up on the CAGFC after the next card anyway, but whatever. Seen, when can you play for real? Oh, and I do not have privacy settings on.

Matt, don't be a dick to me because you and Seen can't get along. That's fucked up. Yeah, I'm "giving up on CAGFC" for the EXACT REASON because of shit like this. Are you going to seriously deny that most people have lost interest in this game? You want to just fight me and Alan week after week? Knock yourself out. Not to mention that you and gamcreator's "schedules haven't meshed well" (see also: haven't tried) to get your tournament fight done.

If you've read any of my posts lately, I've brainstormed 4 different ideas to keep CAGFC reasonably active and relevant during a time when people have numerous newer options of games to play: non-career tournaments, challenge system, monthly cards aligning with actual UFC events, and I've even mentioned essentially starting over as a way of doing a beta run for next year. Where do you get off telling me I'm "giving up on CAGFC"? That's fucking horseshit.

CAGLeagueSports

09-04-2009, 03:23 AM

Truly pathetic showing at CAGFC14. 6 of the 8 scheduled fights went uncompleted. Some were due to fighter injury (RRoD and Rotator Cuff), and some were due to piss-poor communication and cooperation. CAGFC15 will truly be a show of the "LAST MAN STANDING". This is how the uncompleted fights were scored.

Matt Domoracki | Ryan Scarp | Forfeit
Zippy D-Pinhead | Johnny Chan | Forfeit
Gail Pennyfeather | Kimbo Slice | Draw
Jose Aldo | Captain Caveman | Draw
Brandon Haines | Jeremy Hill | Draw
Mach Sakurai | Kyler Klein | Draw

Due to the disappointing end to the Pennyfeather - Slice matchup, the shot at the Heavyweight title now goes to Matt Domoracki. Despite my better judgment, Pennyfeather and Slice will remain on the CAGFC15 card, if only to round out the card and allow more fighters a chance to fight.

On that note, the meager card for CAGFC15 has now been posted. The deadline for these fights is Thursday, 9/10 at 11:59 PM EDT. Since this is the last card, some of you may not see the point in fighting. But considering the work I've done to make this a fun and successful league for almost four months, needless to say, I'd appreciate the effort. Thanks to everyone involved, and good luck.

Ultimate Matt X

09-04-2009, 09:39 AM

I'll be gone over the weekend, but should be back for my fight late Sunday or sometime Monday.

sleepy180

09-04-2009, 02:38 PM

Rock on n8. Good stuff you did here. I appreciated it.

and WTF matt, you have a full friends list so people have a bitch of a time getting in touch with you and then you see the guy online and don't try to communicate with him, instead opting to give up on the match after 5 minutes. I remember having this problem with you in my last fight as well where you didn't even show up until an hour and a half after we were scheduled to meet. You my friend, are a bitch.

There's more I wanted to say but typing on my iPhone from work is a bitch.

Cagfc was good while it lasted. But looks like you picked the right time to close up shop n8.

Btw, I still consider myself the p4p champion of the league!

Undefeated throughout my career and retired with 2 belts, mw and lhw.

I might have to come out of retirment for the next tournament or game :p

Matt Young

09-04-2009, 04:25 PM

Matt, don't be a dick to me because you and Seen can't get along. That's fucked up. Yeah, I'm "giving up on CAGFC" for the EXACT REASON because of shit like this. Are you going to seriously deny that most people have lost interest in this game? You want to just fight me and Alan week after week? Knock yourself out. Not to mention that you and gamcreator's "schedules haven't meshed well" (see also: haven't tried) to get your tournament fight done.

If you've read any of my posts lately, I've brainstormed 4 different ideas to keep CAGFC reasonably active and relevant during a time when people have numerous newer options of games to play: non-career tournaments, challenge system, monthly cards aligning with actual UFC events, and I've even mentioned essentially starting over as a way of doing a beta run for next year. Where do you get off telling me I'm "giving up on CAGFC"? That's fucking horseshit.

I'm sorry. I was pissed at seen and I shouldn't have said that. Now I'm more pissed at seen for not showing up so I could get my rightful title shot. You were right; that kid is a nutjob.

Sleepy, you should probably avoid talking in instances where you'll come off sounding completely ignorant. That is not at all what happened, and had you been keeping up with the thread, you would have known that. Don't start something with me. I've never had anyone have trouble communicating with me due to my full friends list except for, apparently, you. And the reason I gave seen a 5 minute window was because he had failed to show up multiple times before. Get your facts straight before you try to play internet tough guy.

shrike4242

09-04-2009, 04:50 PM

Enough with the knuckle-dragging and e-penis measuring contents.

If you feel the need to go insult one another, do it in PM's. If you have issues between users to discuss, take it to PM's.

Don't make nasty public posts, since that tends to get people silenced, temp-banned or banned.

Take this is your only warning to cease and desist.

moojuice

09-04-2009, 06:22 PM

...anyhoo, Ultimate Matt, let me know when you're back.

CAGLeagueSports

09-04-2009, 09:15 PM

What a relaunch of CAGFC COULD look like...

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss52/cagleaguesports/cagfcpreview.jpg

If anything, I think CAGFC became a victim of its own success. Surprisingly, if you google "UFC 2009 league", this thread is the #3 entry. I never would have imagined it had the potential to draw outsiders to CAG. And when it did, we just weren't really equipped to handle the differences in fighters.

I think with some better defined rules and a bigger staff (yeah, bigger than one would be nice), it could actually be something for everybody and not just something for the people of CAG. I'm not really in any hurry to do a restart, but it could be something to do some tests with, and maybe try to grow slowly over the winter months. Anyone have any thoughts?

Matt Young

09-04-2009, 10:32 PM

The quicker, the better.

Mr Meaty28

09-05-2009, 05:55 PM

If you guys are starting a new league i think you guys should change the name.....If it will be an external website..

*srry for post ip0nder can kiss my ass he is a douche srry guys.

n8rockerasu

09-05-2009, 06:07 PM

If you guys are starting a new league i think you guys should change the name.....If it will be an external website..

*srry for post ip0nder can kiss my ass he is a douche srry guys.

Not changing the name because the name has recognition, not to mention all the graphics I already have created. I understand your point, and it was something I considered. But like I said, Google "UFC 2009 league" and see what comes up. It would be stupid to just wipe out everything we've built thus far. At worst, the OP of this thread can direct people to the new site.

Matt Young

09-05-2009, 07:28 PM

Nate, how does Monday sound?

n8rockerasu

09-05-2009, 11:23 PM

Nate, how does Monday sound?

Yeah, Monday should work. I'm trying to get my fight with seen set up that night too. Any time after 6PM EDT is probably good for me. Let me know.

n8rockerasu

09-05-2009, 11:30 PM

Oh, also, I've been thinking about new rules for the possible restart. I'd still prefer to use career CAFs as they end up being the more well-rounded, skilled fighters. HOWEVER, doing that in a way that prevents juicing/cheating/abusing is the tricky part. Here's some rules and requirements I've thought of so far. If anybody has any comments or suggestions, feel free to post them.

1. The only fighters allowed to be used are CAFs created in the CAREER portion of the game. However, due to UFC 2009's extreme ease of acquiring stat points, cap limits need to be imposed.

a) No fighter shall have an overall rating higher than 100

b) No fighter shall have a strength, speed, or cardio stat higher than 85

c) All individual attribute stats must have a minimum rating of 45

d) No fighter shall have any individual attribute stat higher than 100

2. Members are expected to contact their opponents via email (and IM if available) to schedule a time for their fight. If the deadline passes and a fight is not completed, your effort to set up the fight will determine the winner.

3. All members must act respectful and show good sportsmanship. We realize this is a fighting game, but that's not a reason to act like an idiot. One of the core components of martial arts has always been honor and dignity. Show respect, and you'll receive respect in return.

MikeBike

09-06-2009, 02:08 AM

I will be available to do this last card. I again apologize to my opponent for missing last week. Stupid shoulder. I will PM you to set up a time.

Ultimate Matt X

09-06-2009, 01:01 PM

moojuice,

I should be back later tonight if you're around. If not give me a specific time tomorrow evening and I'll be there. Tonight I'd expect to be in by 10 or 11 EST.

Matt Young

09-06-2009, 02:01 PM

n8rockerasu

09-06-2009, 02:36 PM

Nate, that time frame works for me, too.

As for the rules you posted, in regards to the "no skill lower than 45" rule: I'd imagine that is in place to stop people from lowering individual skills at the beginning in order to enhance others. But what about people like me who played legitimately but kept some stats low? Gail Pennyfeather has one stat under 45- standing kicks- which is a 21. That would mean I'd have to totally redo him, which I wouldn't have the patience for.

The problem is, you can't have it both ways, Matt. Because of the mini/max people almost every league I've looked at has implemented a minimum stat requirement. I'd be in the same boat with my Fedor (who also has ridiculously low kick o). The problem is, in my opinion, when people started creating their CAFs to try to combat these super CAFs, it threw the whole system out of whack.

I can completely understand saying "he doesn't ever throw kicks, so it should be low". But 21 is what a high school kid with no MMA training would be throwing. My estimate was 45 was a good place to say "I'm a professional fighter. I know how to use this skill. It's just not my strongest area".

If we did a "restart" and just allowed everybody to use what they've got already, it would be the same shit all over again. I'm sure there will be many people who don't want to redo their fighters, and that's fine. But that's why I'm not going to be pushing this like a "We NEED to start tomorrow!!!" kind of thing.

I still haven't gone through career in WW or LH, so maybe there are a few people in the same boat, and that's how we'll get our first new fighters. I think the rules need to be set first though. If people still think the game would be exploitable with those rules in place, I'm open to other suggestions. In the meantime, there's still going to be the non-career CAF tournaments too...and maybe even some regular UFC fighter tournaments.

moojuice

09-06-2009, 03:12 PM

moojuice,

I should be back later tonight if you're around. If not give me a specific time tomorrow evening and I'll be there. Tonight I'd expect to be in by 10 or 11 EST.
I'll probably be on tonight at the same time too. Let's get into contact if we're both on.

And though I like the idea of a "restart," I honestly think its too late. The game seems to be loosing traction, and the "peak" season for gaming is coming up. I mean, half of us are probably going to be engrossed with NHL 10, not to mention the big FPSs coming up.

In regard to the rules, I think we would need to look into the cardio/speed/strength limitations a bit more and change it depending on the weight class, since each weight class has different caps. But in a way, you loose out on stat points if you spend time training, so is it enough of a trade off there already?

n8rockerasu

09-06-2009, 06:38 PM

And though I like the idea of a "restart," I honestly think its too late. The game seems to be loosing traction, and the "peak" season for gaming is coming up. I mean, half of us are probably going to be engrossed with NHL 10, not to mention the big FPSs coming up.

In regard to the rules, I think we would need to look into the cardio/speed/strength limitations a bit more and change it depending on the weight class, since each weight class has different caps. But in a way, you loose out on stat points if you spend time training, so is it enough of a trade off there already?

Definitely valid points. That's why I think keeping it casual for now would be the only option. I think expanding it beyond CAG could help too. I mean, there's always going to be hardcore MMA fans who will play this game until the next one comes out. If people have fighters who meet the decided upon rules, then great. If people feel like going through career again to join, also great. Otherwise, the non-career CAF tourneys will still be there. And most importantly, it sets up nicely for next year.

Good point about the limits in regards to weight classes. I hadn't thought of that. I wasn't even going to put a limit on those areas, but honestly I think having a speed and cardio of 95 is almost as devastating as 100+ submission offense. I don't think losing stat points due to training is enough of a trade off because I'm sure there are people who actually redo a sparring session if they don't get a high enough score.

I know I had some sessions where I'd only get 12 points, but I didn't have the patience to reboot the game to do it over. But I'd never put it past anybody. I think hard limits are the only way to keep a handle on some of the fanatics.

n8rockerasu

09-07-2009, 03:04 PM

Nate, that time frame works for me, too.

Matt, if you can do the fight at 7PM EDT, that would be good for me.

Matt Young

09-07-2009, 03:26 PM

Matt, if you can do the fight at 7PM EDT, that would be good for me.

Yeah, will you be on exactly then? I'll wait for 5 minutes... LOL, just kidding. I was going to say, that's pretty much the latest I could go unless we played a few hours after that. So if you can be on at or a little before 7, great.

That goes for Gail Pennyfeather's opponent, too. I can play for the next 4 and 1/2 hours. I'll probably be watching stuff on my DVR, checking back here every once in a while.

n8rockerasu

09-07-2009, 03:33 PM

Yeah, will you be on exactly then? I'll wait for 5 minutes... LOL, just kidding. I was going to say, that's pretty much the latest I could go unless we played a few hours after that. So if you can be on at or a little before 7, great.

That goes for Gail Pennyfeather's opponent, too. I can play for the next 4 and 1/2 hours. I'll probably be watching stuff on my DVR, checking back here every once in a while.

I'll get on at 6:58, then get off for 5 minutes. Then get back on again at 7:03. Will that work? All right. I'll see you then, or I will see you another time!

Matt Young

09-07-2009, 03:40 PM

Lolfest2009~!

n8rockerasu

09-07-2009, 08:16 PM

The winner...and STILL CAGFC Middleweight Champion of the World...Nate "The Fury" Lisa!

Nate Lisa | Matt Young | KO | 4:34 of Rd 3

Good fight, Matt. I just did my best to control the stand up and keep you off balance. I remembered your fondness your clinching in our last fight, and thought it would be best for me to stay away from that. And like I said, it was probably obvious that I still play this game pretty regularly. Good fight though!

n8rockerasu

09-07-2009, 08:36 PM

Fedor Emelianenko | Kimbo Slice | KO | 2:26 of Rd 1

In a simulation of what would happen if these two fighters ever really met in the cage, Emelianenko made short work of Slice, like a bully taking a school kid's lunch money. The combatants traded a few blows early in the fight. But then on a tie up, Emelianenko tried a judo throw, but Slice ended up in top position.

Strangely, Slice immediately went for a kimura, which Emelianenko got out of and gained side control. He quickly moved to full mount and began pummeling Slice. Slice tried to escape, but Fedor blocked most transitions and was able to regain mount even when Kimbo momentarily evaded him. Several crushing blows to the skull later, the fight was over.

Good fight, seen. I don't know if you were having controller problems, or if you were just generally disinterested. I sent you a message after the fight to make sure you weren't having technical problems, but you were already back playing Madden 10. Oh well. At least I had a good time, lol :)

CAGLeagueSports

09-07-2009, 08:50 PM

Ultimate Matt X

09-07-2009, 08:59 PM

moojuice,

Hey I was ready to play, but missed you because I guess you sent your messages while NCAA was simulating. Anyway I'm going to play Madden now, but I'll be done in like an hour and will watch for you if you get back online.

moojuice

09-07-2009, 11:12 PM

Mr Meaty28

09-07-2009, 11:44 PM

moojuice

09-08-2009, 12:08 AM

seen

09-08-2009, 12:22 AM

n8rockerasu

09-08-2009, 12:30 AM

Re-Launching wont exactly boom members. If you forgive me for my juiced stats and my misconduct I would love to get fighters for ufc 10 season

I also have a good idea for fighter stats. Atribuuttes at 185 combined(For career). Skills at 80 max and 40 min for career and instant fighters(B4 multipliers). and max overal of 95(Realistic)

Those are good suggestions. As far as booming membership, who knows. I honestly didn't expect this league to get as big as it did. I still hold a belief that people will still play this game on days that an actual UFC event is being held (simulating the matches and whatnot), so that could give us options. Either way though, it wouldn't bother me if there were only 4-5 members until UFC 2010 was soon to be released. The main objective is working out the kinks BEFORE next year and seeing what works and what doesn't.

The only problem I have with your cap limits is how much different does that really make it from just using insta CAFs? I mean, 185 works out to be 62/62/61 in attributes (which seems kinda low). As others have mentioned, it really shouldn't be possible to make a CAF better than Anderson Silva or GSP. Those guys should be the objective when setting a cap.

Your 40/80 range is possible...but I almost think capping the high end at 80 makes the low end cap irrelevant though, because you could probably get almost everything up to 80 across the board. But with a 15% boost, it would make an 80 a 92, which is definitely reasonable. But is it enough of a difference from insta CAFs to make it worthwhile? Knowing my luck, we'll figure all this shit out and they'll completely change the formula for 2010 anyway, haha. Good ideas though.

n8rockerasu

09-08-2009, 12:36 AM

^Oh man, you and those last second KO's sounds like our tournament fight.

Yea, N8 I wasn't fully there for our fight. It first went bad went I went to rotate the joystick to attempt a mount and instead my sweaty fingers pushed to hard thus starting a retarded kimura as I have no sub offense and am not built to even attempt submissions. Once I saw the animation I pretty much felt the beginning of the end, and the sweaty hands didn't help when I needed to calmly rotate the sticks to get you off the full-mount which never happened. Thanks for the over 3 months of cards and match-ups and I genuinely hope the insta-caf system catches on as it ensures that the best fighters do win, not the ones' with the highest stats and overall ratings.

Haha, yeah, I figured something went awry. I thought the quick submission attempt was odd, but then you didn't even try to let go of it, so I was just like "Ok...I guess I'll pound him for it", lol. I was even going to offer you a rematch, but I know you've got a lot of other things going on.

If you're planning on holding onto this game, keep an eye out for future developments. I'd prefer to get a decent career cap limit set up (even if it's just in anticipation for next year) because I like having skilled fighters and I like the discipline level boosts. We just gotta keep them from becoming super heroes.

Mr Meaty28

09-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Those are good suggestions. As far as booming membership, who knows. I honestly didn't expect this league to get as big as it did. I still hold a belief that people will still play this game on days that an actual UFC event is being held (simulating the matches and whatnot), so that could give us options. Either way though, it wouldn't bother me if there were only 4-5 members until UFC 2010 was soon to be released. The main objective is working out the kinks BEFORE next year and seeing what works and what doesn't.

The only problem I have with your cap limits is how much different does that really make it from just using insta CAFs? I mean, 185 works out to be 62/62/61 in attributes (which seems kinda low). As others have mentioned, it really shouldn't be possible to make a CAF better than Anderson Silva or GSP. Those guys should be the objective when setting a cap.

Your 40/80 range is possible...but I almost think capping the high end at 80 makes the low end cap irrelevant though, because you could probably get almost everything up to 80 across the board. But with a 15% boost, it would make an 80 a 92, which is definitely reasonable. But is it enough of a difference from insta CAFs to make it worthwhile? Knowing my luck, we'll figure all this shit out and they'll completely change the formula for 2010 anyway, haha. Good ideas though.d be a little even
but you will have more skill points than insta's so it coul

n8rockerasu

09-08-2009, 03:39 PM

d be a little even
but you will have more skill points than insta's so it coul

I have no idea what you just said...

moojuice

09-08-2009, 03:44 PM

It would be a little more(?) even.
But you will have more skill points than insta's (CAFs?) so it would be cool.

Jesus...

n8rockerasu

09-08-2009, 03:47 PM

Jesus...

Judges? Wait..what...no? That's still not a complete thought? Can we get a translator in here?

Meaty, are you speaking to us from beyond the grave or something? Like you can only type a couple words before the portal closes? lol...I'm sorry to make fun of you man, but good God.

CAGLeagueSports

09-10-2009, 12:07 AM

All right, guys. about 24 hours until the final deadline (would that make this The Final Countdown then?). I know there's probably not much motivation to get the fights done, but it would be nice if the remaining titles were defended decisively. Remaining fights are:

Gail Pennyfeather vs Ryan Scarp (HW)
Brandon Haines vs Zippy D-Pinhead (LH Title)
Mach Sakurai vs Kyler Klein (WW Title)
Tony Hawk vs Matt Domoracki (HW Title)

Hope to see at least one more fight completed. Thanks.

moojuice

09-10-2009, 12:22 AM

Tony Hawk | Matt Domoracki | TKO | 2:56 of Round 5

Fight that nearly went the distance. Domoracki was DOMINANT in the stand up, forcing Hawk to take the fight to the ground. Late in the fourth round, Hawk managed to rock Domoracki in the mount, but Domoracki managed to roll away before Hawk could seal the deal. In the fifth, Domoracki was again dominating the stand up, landing combination after combination. Halfway into the fifth, Domoracki attempted to throw an overhand right, but Hawk stepped just far enough back to avoid the punch and counter with a head kick, dazing Domoracki and sending him down to the canvas. Hawk quickly seized the opportunity, stood over the still confused Domoracki, and swung for the fences. Referee Yamasaki saw enough, and called the fight at 2:56, declaring Hawk winner by TKO.

Great fight Matt. I just could not compete on our feet at all, which makes it kind of ironic that you went down from a head kick.

All right, guys. about 24 hours until the final deadline (would that make this The Final Countdown then?). I know there's probably not much motivation to get the fights done, but it would be nice if the remaining titles were defended decisively. Remaining fights are:

Gail Pennyfeather vs Ryan Scarp (HW)
Brandon Haines vs Zippy D-Pinhead (LH Title)
Mach Sakurai vs Kyler Klein (WW Title)
Tony Hawk vs Matt Domoracki (HW Title)

Hope to see at least one more fight completed. Thanks.
Dana is getting old ;)

CAGLeagueSports

09-10-2009, 04:17 AM

Dana is getting old ;)

Ya know, I actually remember seeing that, now that you mention it. I'm losing my fucking mind, lol.

Tuffgong

09-10-2009, 11:53 AM

holy cow thursday rolled around fast this week,
pm'ed both opponents and will be on all night tonight, hope we can get em done.

Matt Young

09-10-2009, 02:00 PM

Nate, I have posted in this thread and private messaged as well. No word back from RyanScarp.

n8rockerasu

09-10-2009, 02:12 PM

Nate, I have posted in this thread and private messaged as well. No word back from RyanScarp.

Yeah, he was one of the big advocates for UOC guys not all being losers. Then, he promptly disappeared, lol. So much for that.

zenon_k

09-10-2009, 10:24 PM

Could anyone give me details on this? Or a general outline that would help out new guy to this kind of thing? Interested once I redo my CAF since my disc broke.

Don't know if final cards means final, or last one for the month or whatever, thats why I would like info lol.

seen

09-10-2009, 10:26 PM

Do the tutorial, as I don't know what type of outline you are asking for.

n8rockerasu

09-10-2009, 10:27 PM

Could anyone give me details on this? Or a general outline that would help out new guy to this kind of thing? Interested once I redo my CAF since my disc broke.

Well, CAGFC is sorta going on hiatus right now. There could be a restart in the near future. For now, we're still trying to decide on the rules though, and caps for the stats, so the fighters aren't ridiculously overpowered.

Go to page 92, and start reading at post #1831 (if you go back any further than that, you'll see the problems we were having toward the end, and discover why a more defined set of rules is needed). Read through the last couple pages, and that should bring you up to speed with the direction we're wanting to take this in.

MikeBike

09-11-2009, 12:00 AM

Kyler Klein | Mach Sakurai | KO | 2:59 of Rnd 5

One of the best fights ive ever hade. This could of gone either way and I thought he had me a few times with his submissions. Great fight bro.

Mr Meaty28

09-11-2009, 12:40 AM

Jesus...
I was on my laptop and i guessed it jumped.

CAGLeagueSports

09-11-2009, 01:51 AM

MikeBike and Tuffgong, great job getting that last fight in, guys! Glad to hear it was so competitive, and it's nice to crown a new Welterweight Champion at the last CAGFC card. 4 out of the 6 fights were completed, and for the final week, that's definitely a number I can be happy with.

For the two fights that were not completed, Gail Pennyfeather received the win over Ryan Scarp, and Zippy D-Pinhead received the win over Brandon Haines. A special concession was made for Zippy, since by my estimate, Haines seemed to be done playing this game and has missed his last three fights. Since this card was called Last Man Standing, and Zippy was the only LH competitor left, he was awarded the Light Heavyweight title. So, congrats to new title holders Zippy D-Pinhead and Kyler Klein!

As I've mentioned, CAGFC may start back up in a month or two, as a means for doing some beta testing for next year. More details will come as the rules and requirements are hammered out. Until then, great work everybody! And thanks for playing! :)

Matt Young

09-11-2009, 01:22 PM

It sucks that my opponent wasn't around to fight. I haven't been playing the game lately except for CAG league fights, so I'm hoping I can maintain interest in it. Maybe I just need to play guys like Nate more often.

Tuffgong

09-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Hey everyone, great league I had a lot of fun playing on here. I am not planning on trading this game in, so if anyone wants good player matches hit me up on XBL. I prob won't play this too much on ranked anymore (still get too many quitters anytime I play someone higher ranked), but I'll throw the disc in and throw down anytime I'm on.

Zippy finally gets the belt, but the stadium was empty, oh well not too bad for a mongoloid...

MikeBike, that was an epic fight, very back and forth. I couldn't dominate you on the ground at all and you had GREAT ground and pound, very tough to shake. If you play this anymore hit me up anytime.

Mr Meaty28

09-12-2009, 03:39 PM

Good shit. I you ever need a forum mod. for the new layout. ;) . Congrats on a good season everyone.

strait jackets

09-13-2009, 08:07 PM

if you guys want to join another league go to bestufcsimleague.freeforums.org this league is no cafs just the regular fighters a very well run league come and join us

Ultimate Matt X

09-14-2009, 03:48 PM

n8rockerasu

09-14-2009, 05:32 PM

Would it be possible for us to arrange more informal cards and keep track of champions that way? Moojuice and I were talking about this during our fight. I wouldn't mind keeping the league alive that way until something more organized comes along.

Yeah, well that was kinda the idea of the "challenge system" I came up with. Where anyone who wants to continue playing the game can challenge the title holder at any time.

I mean, I looked over the roster again, and there's probably 5 people in the HW division who are still (or would stay) active. The LH division has one (two if seen finished his fighter). MW has 3 guys who are all in the HW division also, WW has maybe 2, and LW has 1. It really boils down to having a total of 7 CAGs left who were active till the end.

There's not a lot of flexibility there, but I'm open to whatever you guys would be interested in doing. Really, if we wanted to just keep the HW division active, that would probably work. But it would leave MikeBike and Tuffgong out in the cold (unless they've got HW's they could sign up). 5 fighters is at least a reasonable number for a division though. Thoughts?

Tuffgong

09-15-2009, 04:11 PM

I could finish up a HW this week, I've got one halfway done already.
We are talking Career CAFs right?
I would be down for a scaled back version of the league, for sure.

n8rockerasu

09-15-2009, 04:19 PM

I could finish up a HW this week, I've got one halfway done already.
We are talking Career CAFs right?
I would be down for a scaled back version of the league, for sure.

Yeah, Career CAFs. That would be cool because it would give us 6 pretty damn reliable guys who still enjoy playing the game from time to time. But nothing too crazy. Just enough to keep everyone sharp till UFC2010 comes out. :)

Matt Young

09-15-2009, 04:48 PM

I'm in.

n8rockerasu

09-15-2009, 07:16 PM

Well, since it looks like we are going to try to continue with this, even if it's on a small scale (think "the dark days" of UFC), this is what I came up with for our "new home": www.cagfc.comxa.com (I didn't feel like paying for an official domain...but probably will when UFC2010 is close to release). I'm not a web designer by any means, but hopefully it's decent. Obviously, it still needs work, but hopefully we'll have things to add to it along the way.

Mr Meaty28

09-17-2009, 09:41 PM

I will join it i have a HW.

seen

09-17-2009, 09:55 PM

In the words on Rampage Jackson "and I got Kimbo Slice." Looking forward to the restart!

moojuice

09-17-2009, 10:29 PM

Lookin' good

Ultimate Matt X

09-18-2009, 02:38 PM

I'm definitely in, but I might not be active right away as school and everything is a real pain right now.

n8rockerasu

09-18-2009, 03:39 PM

I'm definitely in, but I might not be active right away as school and everything is a real pain right now.

All right. Well, I was going to make up the first card tonight and I'd need either you or Tuffgong to be on it. I know Tuff said he was finishing his fighter up. If he's ready, he can have the spot this week.

Mr Meaty28

09-18-2009, 06:21 PM

i signed up on the site just incase.

GT: Yo Adr1an (i chaned gt's.)
Adrian Lebonte
6'4
MT/Judo
100

n8rockerasu

09-19-2009, 02:25 PM

Well, I PM'd Tuffgong to see if his HW is ready. Waiting to see whether he or UMX can take this first fight. In the meantime, I've done some more research on the CAF stat cap issue, and my main thought on it is no CAF should have a stat better than the best fighter in the game, or any stat worse than the worst fighter. I looked at a spreadsheet with all the ratings for the real UFC fighters to see what the highest attribute totals were. Here's the highest for each weight class:

HW - Brock Lesnar - 80 + 72 + 80 = 222
LH - Rampage Jackson - 80 + 75 + 67 = 222
MW - Rich Franklin - 63 + 74 + 80 = 217
WW - Georges St. Pierre - 75 + 78 + 75 = 228
LW - Sean Sherk - 76 + 75 + 75 = 226

Then, I looked at a website which broke down each skill into highest rated and lowest rated for each weight division. Basically, whet it boils down to is no one has an individual skill higher than 92 or lower than 40. Now, this actually goes along with what MrMeaty had suggested before of making the range 40-80 (which becomes a 92 with the 15% boost), and I think that works really well.

So, after looking at it extensively, my offical rule proposal would be to put an attribute total cap at 225 (which would allow for 75/75/75), and a skill range of 40-92 (including boosts). Doing this would probably cause many fighters to have 92 striking o/kicking o/ground striking o/submission o/etc...but at least they wouldn't be God-like. They'd just be more well rounded.

Unless we had an overwhelming response to put this into place immediately, it wouldn't go into effect until UFC 2010 comes out, because I doubt there are many who plan on going through career mode again. But I'll leave that open to the opinion of the remaining fighters. What does everybody think?

moojuice

09-19-2009, 02:29 PM

n8rockerasu

09-19-2009, 02:57 PM

Sounds good, but we'd definitely need a guide to creating characters, and also probably have to re-evaluate the numbers based on next years stats. What I mean by a guide, is that we need to say if you are X type of fighter, make sure you stop raising Y stat at Z because of the %boost; otherwise, I'm assuming lots of people could mess up their finished career fighter if they're looking to fight in this league.

Well, that's why I think including the boost in the cap is a good idea. In the end, no skill should be higher than a 92, boost or no boost. But yeah, they could completely change the formula next year and make a 92 better/worse than it actually was this year. But at least we have a foundation to build off of.

seen

09-19-2009, 04:16 PM

I could re-do my fighter if others are willing to try the stat caps as well.

n8rockerasu

09-24-2009, 05:02 PM

Hey guys, bumping this to let everyone know that TuffGong finished up his HW, so we now have a full 6 to do a new card (we'll have 7 when Ultimate Matt X is ready to play again). Expect the card for CAGFC16 to be posted very soon!

moojuice

09-24-2009, 06:55 PM

Time to get practicing...maybe.

n8rockerasu

09-25-2009, 02:41 AM

All right, guys! The new card is up! CAGFC16: REBIRTH. I'm only going to be posting cards and results and stuff on the new site since the OP of this thread is full. Try to do the same (the forum over there is set up...it's nothing fancy, but it works). Go to www.cagfc.comxa.com/currentshow.html to see the matchups! Same as always, the deadline will be 11:59 PM EST on Thursday night (10/1). Contact your opponent and set up a time to fight. Good luck to everyone!

Matt Young

09-25-2009, 03:23 AM

Who the shit is Adrian Labonte?

n8rockerasu

09-25-2009, 04:04 AM

Who the shit is Adrian Labonte?

MrMeaty. I didn't put CAG names because if the site ever grows beyond CAG, it's not like it's going to matter anyway. His XBL gamertag is listed though. I also considered listing email addresses, but figured most people wouldn't want their emails just posted on the net for all to see.

Mr Meaty28

09-26-2009, 03:37 PM

my gt is yo adr1an

moojuice

09-29-2009, 11:00 PM

Fedor Emilianenko | Tony Hawk | KO | 4:17 Round 1

Well, rust definitely showed lol. Good fight nonetheless.

n8rockerasu

09-29-2009, 11:09 PM

Fedor Emilianenko | Tony Hawk | KO | 4:17 Round 1

Well, rust definitely showed lol. Good fight nonetheless.

Good bump, Alan. I was going to do the same thing. Maybe this will serve as a reminder that people actually said they wanted to continue fighting, but have thus far failed to get their fights completed. It's hard to keep CAGFC active, guys, if nobody is active in it.

For anyone who needs it:
www.cagfc.comxa.com/currentshow.html

Mr Meaty28

09-30-2009, 12:10 AM

I cant add matt because his FL is full......so what you want me to do n8.....

Matt Young

09-30-2009, 12:54 AM

I cant add matt because his FL is full......so what you want me to do n8.....

I've had a full friend list for years now and haven't had trouble scheduling games 95% of the time. Just set up a date and time through the thread or private messages.

I'm available most afternoons and evenings this week. I'm on Pacific time. How about you?

n8rockerasu

09-30-2009, 01:02 AM

I cant add matt because his FL is full......so what you want me to do n8.....

Yeah, the biggest thing you can do is send him a private message through this site. Also, posting in this thread (and hopefully the forum on the CAGFC site, eventually) are also greatly effective.

I've said this 100 times. Many people have more going on than playing Xbox 360 every day. This could include school, work, family obligations, or even playing a different console. Expecting people to be on Xbox Live every day is stupid. But there is a very strong possibility people check their email (CAG sends one if you receive a PM) and/or CAG at least once a day. It makes far more sense trying to contact people that way.

seen

10-01-2009, 05:46 PM

Hey Tuff Gong, when can you play? I sent you a message here and on XBL; hope all is ok.

Mr Meaty28

10-01-2009, 09:45 PM

hopefully i can get it done later tonight I had to get a catscan got decked in HS football

Ultimate Matt X

10-02-2009, 09:45 AM

Okay if we're still using our fighters from before I'm ready to be on the next card. Whoever my opponent is just make sure to PM me in case I'm caught up in school stuff and don't think to check this thread often enough.

Mr Meaty28

10-02-2009, 03:42 PM

I love how im supposed to get in contact and he makes no effort.....

n8rockerasu

10-02-2009, 04:58 PM

I love how im supposed to get in contact and he makes no effort.....

No, don't get me wrong, Meaty. Both of you should be trying to contact the other. I was just telling you ways you could reach him (you did ask, after all).

And since it seems two of the three fights did not occur, I'm extending the deadline to next Thursday, 10/7 at 11:59 PM EST. I didn't want to do this, but there's no point having CAGFC if people don't care to fight.

This brings me to my final point, which has been brewing for a couple weeks now, and it's directed at Matt Young (sorry Matt...call it tough love, but I gotta be real). When I first made the announcement that CAGFC would stop doing weekly cards, Matt complained saying he wanted to keep fighting. When I proposed the idea of switching to a non-career CAF format, Matt complained, saying he put a lot of work into his Gail Pennyfeather fighter. When I proposed the new stat cap limits and the possibility of starting over with those limits, Matt complained, saying he didn't want to redo his fighter.

Instead, I've left everything largely unchanged just in the effort of still being able to have a small group of fighters remain active. But aside from moojuice and myself (which is probably the easiest fight to set up ever, since we play several games together and are usually on around the same times), nobody is fighting. Now, this isn't only Matt's fault, but since he was so outspoken about not changing anything, it irritates me that when he got his wish, he's not making an effort.

When Matt didn't want me to stop the weekly cards, I told him that with all the games coming out (and the ones I knew he played, ie. Madden, NHL 10, NBA 2K10, etc.) and his other committments (going to hockey games, etc.) I didn't see when he'd have time to play. But he assured me he would. Now it appears that I was right, and he was full of shit. Again, sorry Matt, but that's just how it looks, and I'm frustrated by it. It's nothing personal against you. I just want people to be honest with themselves, and honest with me.

Matt Young

10-02-2009, 05:59 PM

I love how im supposed to get in contact and he makes no effort.....

I've had a full friend list for years now and haven't had trouble scheduling games 95% of the time. Just set up a date and time through the thread or private messages.

I'm available most afternoons and evenings this week. I'm on Pacific time. How about you?

Yeah, so I made more effort than you did. Neither of us PM'ed the other. So, when can you play?

I'm available a lot. ECHL games don't start for a couple weeks, and I'm able to play most afternoons and evenings. Meaty has made no effort to contact me whatsoever.

n8rockerasu

10-02-2009, 06:38 PM

Yeah, so I made more effort than you did. Neither of us PM'ed the other. So, when can you play?

I'm available a lot. ECHL games don't start for a couple weeks, and I'm able to play most afternoons and evenings. Meaty has made no effort to contact me whatsoever.

That's true. As I said, both people SHOULD be communicating. A lot of the bullshit I see in CAG leagues revolves around whose responsibility it is to contact the other person. All that does is create a bitch fight over a process that should be this simple:

Person A: states availability range (as specific as possible)

Person B: CHOOSES time within that given range

Person A: confirms time is acceptable and agrees to meet at set time.

Person B: reads confirmation and plans to meet at set time

It should take no more than 3-4 messages to set up a time to play. If that doesn't happen, the person either doesn't have time to play, doesn't care to play, or is just lazy. You're both capable. Get the fight done.

Matt Young

10-02-2009, 07:05 PM

Well, I've said repeatedly when I am available. I'm just waiting for him to suggest a time.

Matt Young

10-03-2009, 05:11 PM

I just PM'ed Meaty since he hasn't responded with a time to play in this thread.

Mr Meaty28

10-03-2009, 08:16 PM

Ive got 1 pm and that was from yesterday the 2nd.....

Matt Young

10-03-2009, 08:18 PM

Yes, and you never PM'ed me. You also did not answer in that post, which you could have, what your availability is.

n8rockerasu

10-03-2009, 08:44 PM

Meaty, please answer Matt's question (either in this thread or via PM) to tell him when you can play. This is Matt's stated availability:

I'm available most afternoons and evenings this week. I'm on Pacific time. How about you?

Get this fight done. Any more problems and I will resort to jokes about being on your period and needing to change your tampon.

Mr Meaty28

10-05-2009, 08:11 PM

Im on everyday after school 3:30pm estrn or at 9pm estrn

seen

10-05-2009, 08:19 PM

I sent Tuff Gong a PM and friend request a week ago still no response. He hasn't been on XBL since 9/23 and CAG on 9/27....

Matt Young

10-05-2009, 09:27 PM

Im on everyday after school 3:30pm estrn or at 9pm estrn

Let's play at 9 Eastern tomorrow then.

seen

10-07-2009, 09:47 PM

Hoping others were luckier then I...My opponent still has not been online or responded, can I fight UMX instead if he is still interested in participating?

Matt Young

10-07-2009, 11:41 PM

I'm in the same boat. Nothing from Meaty since his last post here.

Mr Meaty28

10-24-2009, 05:00 PM

Why didyou guys take away my CAGFC 13 and 14 wins?

n8rockerasu

10-24-2009, 05:24 PM

Why didyou guys take away my CAGFC 13 and 14 wins?

WTF??? How fucking retarded are you? I know you claim to be in high school, but do you take remedial classes? First of all, you didn't fight at CAGFC 13 and 14 (look at the Past Updates). Second of all, why the fuck are you more concerned with old shit than with even bothering to try to get your "current" fight done?

Matt mentioned to me last night that he has sent you several messages, but never got a response. The last post in this thread was over 2 weeks ago, and it was from Matt. Your last post was almost 3 weeks ago. What mental deficit do you suffer from that would make you think any of this still matters? If you can't tell, due to the lack of interest in getting fights done, the league is on hiatus. Tuffgong disappeared after finishing his HW, and moojuice even traded the game in.

I'm not upset by any of this, as I didn't have much expectation for people to continue playing the game this deep into the fall season. But your stupidity astounds me. If I were your parents, I would have dropped you off on the side of the road a long time ago. I'm not trying to be blatantly mean to you, man. But I've never seen anybody struggle so mightily with simple comprehension and communication. What is your malfunction?

Ultimate Matt X

10-25-2009, 08:49 PM

I just want to let you guys know I'm still into being involved with this, but my schedule makes it a little difficult. If I'm put on a card just make sure PMs and friends list messages are sent and I should be able to play with proper notice.

Mr Meaty28

10-27-2009, 04:36 PM

Calm down idiot I didnt see........I'll be back next year......

*your worse right now then the uoc asswipes.

Matt Young

10-28-2009, 01:46 AM

Calm down idiot I didnt see........I'll be back next year......

*your worse right now then the uoc asswipes.

http://foreignsands.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jlp_facepalm.jpg

Mr Meaty28

10-28-2009, 04:49 PM

Im sorry matt if I dont appreciate sarcasm from n8 sometimes.

n8rockerasu

10-28-2009, 05:37 PM

Im sorry matt if I dont appreciate sarcasm from n8 sometimes.

And I don't appreciate complete and utter stupidity. I'll treat you with respect when you earn it. You accused me of taking away wins for matches that didn't even exist. Where did that come from?

And for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic.

Mr Meaty28

10-30-2009, 04:42 PM

And I don't appreciate complete and utter stupidity. I'll treat you with respect when you earn it. You accused me of taking away wins for matches that didn't even exist. Where did that come from?

And for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic.
I know you were just being a dick. But I have another question . Would you consider switching to EA mma or your staying on the ufc.

seen

10-30-2009, 05:23 PM

Not to get too involved here Meaty, but based on N8's posts and your rude responses I don't think he will want you to participate regardless of what game it is.

n8rockerasu

10-30-2009, 06:13 PM

I know you were just being a dick. But I have another question . Would you consider switching to EA mma or your staying on the ufc.

From what I've read, EA MMA isn't coming out till 2010. For all we know they might release it at the same time as UFC 2010. I'll give EA MMA a chance, but it would really have to blow me away to be worth purchasing. Considering we know basically nothing at this point, it's hard to say anything.

Matt Young

12-13-2009, 04:38 PM

UFC 2010- Official relesae date- May 25th

It's got KIMBO!

n8rockerasu

12-13-2009, 05:13 PM

UFC 2010- Official relesae date- May 25th

It's got KIMBO!

Haha, nice! I know I'm ready for it. I read the new preview for EA MMA in Game Informer yesterday, and I gotta say, so far, I'm not impressed. The entire article just seemed like a dig at UFC 2009, and didn't really focus on anything that was relevant to MMA.

The first half of the article is about graphics, and how good visuals are "the foundation that lays the groundwork for authenticity" and gush about how much it looks like Fight Night Round 4. Then, when they do address controls and gameplay, it talks about how you can "punch from your back" and that you don't have to wait for your opponent to finish his animation before you get your turn.

That's all well and good, but I damn sure better not be able to knock my opponent out from the bottom. Punching from your back seems like such a non issue because hardly anybody in MMA even bothers with it. The more important issue is escaping. The fact that they're using that as a selling point worries me.

Then, they talk about "catching your opponents kicks and not being forced to take them down...if your strength is stand up". Apparently, in EA MMA, you'll be able to hold onto their leg and keep throwing punches with your free hand. That sounds like a great idea (and something I'm sure UFC 2010 will have), but considering it's all mapped to the right analog stick (ala Fight Night), I don't know how well it's going to work.

It also mentions that if you try to take your opponent down from too far away, you can get kneed in the face. Again, that's good, but why they're focusing on these things that rarely occur in MMA, I don't know. Tell us how the ground game works. Tell us how submissions are executed. Tell us about flash KO's. I don't need to know how Jeff Monson's tattoos are perfectly recreated. I don't know. Things may change. But so far, it sounds like EA has no idea what they're doing.