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CAGLeagueSports

04-24-2009, 05:56 PM

Vulcan2422

04-24-2009, 07:51 PM

Reserving my spot right now for Brock Lesnar or just reserving it once we get more info on it.

moonknight25

04-24-2009, 10:59 PM

I'm down for this! I love the demo!

Nightfall

04-25-2009, 03:08 AM

If we're using real fighters, I'm in for Anderson Silva.

CAGLeagueSports

04-25-2009, 03:28 AM

If we use real fighters, we will either have a draft, or another idea that was thought of is not keeping one set fighter (unless you're holding a belt...in which case you'd have to defend with the fighter you won it with), but allowing the challenger to pick any fighter to try to beat you.

The drawback of this system is there wouldn't be much of a "career" feel or an identity for each CAG, but more of a "who's the best at the game" feel. Deciding how to do weight classes would also be trickier since you could potentially challenge for multiple classes at once. This is just another idea that was brought up though. Obviously, we'll have a better idea of how things would work when the game is released.

darekIsAwesome

04-25-2009, 03:37 AM

In for Ice man :]

Pure Apathy

04-25-2009, 04:36 PM

I'm downloading the demo now, so I may sign up for this if I like the game.

Jay

04-25-2009, 04:46 PM

Sign me up for rampage.

JJSP

04-25-2009, 04:50 PM

Downloaded the demo and had a blast despite being a casual MMA fan (and by casual, I mean I've seen a few fights and can name a few fighters). I managed to put together some pretty combos and takedowns as well as a couple of vicious knockouts. Completely in agreeance that casual players are going to be able to compete pretty well using basic strikes and takedowns and the hardcore players are going to be going for submissions. I like that it's an actual struggle once it goes to the mat - shoudl definitely avoid the cheap tapouts that have plagued this genre since the beginning.

Hopefully I can find a deal on it somewhere - definitely interested in a CAGFC if it's put together well. Intrigued by the use of created fighters to ensure a level playing field.

Pure Apathy

04-25-2009, 06:03 PM

Intrigued by the use of created fighters to ensure a level playing field.

I agree. I forgot to mention that I would rather use created fighters.

dkreegz515

04-25-2009, 06:19 PM

im in for it... add me... im getting it on release day

Poor2More

04-25-2009, 06:52 PM

Count me in, I am getting this day one

Galego23

04-25-2009, 07:11 PM

im down.

greatscot

04-25-2009, 09:01 PM

Sign me up. I'll be gettting this game YF360G.com as soon as they put it up.

Matt Young

04-25-2009, 09:13 PM

There are already some guys that have been talking about running a league, so you may want to consult with them since you're new. But I'll join if this thing happens.

n8rockerasu

04-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Hello everybody! Welcome to the official home of the CheapAssGamer Fighting Championship! Brought to you by talonthrawn and n8rockerasu!

Pay attention Matt, lol ;)

homeland

04-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Just played the demo, damn good game. Might not pick up the new Fight Night right away now. Count me in as well. Will be getting it from yf360g.

Matt Young

04-25-2009, 09:32 PM

Pay attention Matt, lol ;)

Oh, it was buried in the OMFG WALL OF TEXT. Anyway, count me in. Real guys, CAFs, I don't care. I'll have a man in every division if possible. I'm hooked on the demo.

n8rockerasu

04-25-2009, 09:36 PM

Oh, it was buried in the OMFG WALL OF TEXT. Anyway, count me in. Real guys, CAFs, I don't care. I'll have a man in every division if possible. I'm hooked on the demo.

Wall of text? That's a paragraph bitch! If I knew how, I'd be all indenting and shit in this motherfucker! In my hood, we follow proper writing style. MLA motherfucker! 8-)

Matt Young

04-25-2009, 09:57 PM

Okay, I read on GameFAQs that in order to take your CAF online, you have to beat the career mode and "retire" him. If that's true, goodbye CAFs for this league.

LilPaintballer

04-25-2009, 09:59 PM

Sign me up for Frank Mir

Xavin

04-25-2009, 10:09 PM

If I get the game, I'm in, but not sure what character, because of the no Randy Couture.

n8rockerasu

04-26-2009, 01:06 AM

You guys need to read the OP. There's no point in "calling dibs" on a fighter. If real fighters are used, a draft will be held. Personally, I'd rather use created fighters, but if what Matt said is true, that won't work. I tried to find what he was referencing, and read through like 5 pages on the GameFAQs board, but I just couldn't take it anymore.

The stupidity on that site is incredible. I think there are more 12 year boys there than at Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch. If I hear one more person talking about Kimbo Slice, or comparing UFC to WWE, I might shoot somebody. Hopefully whatever Matt found is wrong though. Like others have said, I'd like to have an even playing field.

Oh, also, Randy Couture allegedly signed a contract with EA to make an MMA game. Although, it seems destined to fail if it doesn't have the UFC license. I mean, they could go to Affliction and get guys like Fedor and Barnett, but it wouldn't have the same brand appeal. I'm sure there will be plenty of options to create Randy in UFC 2009. Just go with that.

DarkTower80

04-26-2009, 02:05 AM

This sounds good to me. Using a CAF would be cool but actual fighters could be cool too. I'm in.

Vulcan2422

04-26-2009, 03:39 AM

I just called Dib's cause I'm a Retard. But if what Matt said is true, I will glady retire my Player. But we will have to see once it comes out. Hell, I honestly could play as anyone at this point and love it. :D

cgarb84

04-26-2009, 12:16 PM

I'm down like Charlie Brown for this. No point on calling a fighter so I won't bother. I don't even know exactly how a league will work but IDK I'm in.

bg88

04-26-2009, 12:24 PM

Count me in for this. I'm getting this game day 1 and I'm intrigued to play it online.

whiptcracker

04-26-2009, 03:32 PM

Count me in as well.

talonthrawn

04-26-2009, 09:01 PM

Matt Young

04-26-2009, 09:46 PM

So we can only be in one weight class? I was hoping we could pick a fighter in each class.

Pure Apathy

04-26-2009, 09:58 PM

I am getting this game for sure now.

n8rockerasu

04-26-2009, 10:33 PM

Well if the fact you can't use CAF's unless you 'retire' them in career mode, that is probably out. So my thought is this:

For the tournament for when we start then we will 'call fighters' for each weight division. To start we'll have you pick one weight division and have a fighter in said division (this is a device to get you to maybe actually call a LW or WW). Then after the tourney's we'll have our champs.

At this point as in the OP anyone can challenge the champion and use any fighter in that weight class. If you are the champ you always use the fighter you won with until you lose the belt. After you have defended YOUR belt three times, you can start to challenge in another weight class if you desire. Now as far as CAF's go, I think if all CAF's aren't going to be 99's you can use them as well if you wish but I wouldn't want to force anyone to retire their CAF's for sake of achievements etc. etc.

Anyways thats the basic layout I'm thinking about, let me know how you feel about it?

I like the basic framework of what you're saying. It's just a little confusing, and seems a bit rough around the edges. I think if we're not able to use CAF's, we'll either HAVE to go with a "non specific" fighter system and/or limit people to one weight class. The reason being, there are only 80 fighters in the game. We've already got 21 CAGs showing interest in participating. If each of them had a guy in each weight class, that's over 100 fighters. It just won't work like that.

I'm also somewhat apprehensive of allowing people multiple fighters in multiple weight classes because I think it would kinda turn into a free for all, and would be really difficult to keep up with (records, rankings, etc.). I really, really hope the stuff about CAF's isn't true because it would make things so much easier. For instance, if you wanted to change weight classes, you could just edit your CAF and compete against a new group of people.

If we can't use CAF's, for the tournament, I think it would make more sense to have people just commit to a weight class. If we're not going to be able to hold people to being specific fighters anyway, you might as well have it like that from the beginning. It would kinda give it more of a "Mortal Kombat" feel, allowing people to switch from fighter to fighter (other than the champion), but as long as everyone still reports their results, we can still track records and rank the CAG's ability moreso than who they're using.

I don't really like the wording of "anyone can challenge the champion". Here's why. Like any online league, there are going to be people who put a lot into it, and people who only look at the game once every couple weeks. I don't think those people who half ass it deserve a title shot just because the champion happens to be online. If the champ is having to defend his belt at least once a week, he shouldn't have to risk losing it to somebody only putting in half the effort. I do like what you mentioned before about any of the top 3 contenders being able to challenge though. That keeps it fair, but allows room for flexibility as well.

My favorite thing about having a ranking system is that anybody who dicks around or doesn't follow through on their committment, simply falls in the rankings. It's not like other leagues where we have to worry about kicking people out, or having everybody meet a weekly deadline. If people don't play the game often, they fall to the bottom. No big deal.

Thinking along those lines though, I think we should only allow people to fight the same opponent once a week (and have it count toward their record). Considering that the fights for this game can end in 15 seconds, you could play someone over and over again, and rack up 50 wins in a day, haha. If we don't impose some kind of regulation there, we'll have guys with 213-67 records in a week. I would say that the first fight counts and everything thereafter is just practice...unless of course you agreed beforehand to have a couple "sparring sessions" before your official fight.

Those are just some ideas off the top of my head anyway.

Matt Young

04-26-2009, 11:33 PM

You could always just set up a card each week and give us till the end of the week to complete fights. You could number them like the UFC- CAGFC 1, CAGFC 2, etc.

AK85

04-26-2009, 11:50 PM

Go ahead and add my name to the list :bouncy:

Hopefully there will be a way we will be able to use CAFs, but if not I will not have a problem fighting as a LW or WW

n8rockerasu

04-27-2009, 12:05 AM

You could always just set up a card each week and give us till the end of the week to complete fights. You could number them like the UFC- CAGFC 1, CAGFC 2, etc.

Yeah, see I like that idea too. I'd just want to do it in a way that wasn't TOO "schedule" like. I mean, the last thing I want talon or myself to have to do is PM people and be like "How come you didn't get your fight in?" Granted, not finding time for a 15 minute (at most) fight is far more pathetic than not having time for a one hour baseball game or something. I like the organization that set cards would provide though. This brainstorming is good. It'll give us a head start when we see how the actual game is structured.

talonthrawn

04-27-2009, 07:40 AM

n8rockerasu

04-27-2009, 01:45 PM

Yeah, I like the card idea as well. One thing I forgot to mention was the initial rankings after the tournament will determine your rankings at first so runner up is no. 1 contender, person who lost in the semis to the champ is number 2 etc... My idea with the being able to hop weight classes is that lets say you win the MW belt with Silva, after defending a few times I'd rather let someone do something a little different rather than have to keep fighting with that guy.

To me this is the strength of a not team sport game, you can change it up to keep it interesting, sick of fighting in a certain division then move around. I guess the other idea is that you can only have one 'active' fighter in each weight class. So if you're fighting with Rampage and you decide that no one is Matt Serra and you'd like to try him you can give up Rampage and start at the bottom of the other weight class.

Just some more thoughts. We could totally do the card idea, but it would require more commitment I suppose. I think if you set up like a Saturday or something, everyone could get on for the 15 minutes req'd for the fight. Like n8 said, its a LOT easier than an hour baseball or madden game. Though with the cards, you'd have to trust n8 and I's matchup making ability. Not everyone would be in a title fight week after week, so everyone would have to agree that the two of us (or we could have another and make it three so there'd be a vote), have the last say. But also n8 and I would have to discuss how our fights would be put in. thats the only part tbh.

I think we're starting to jive now. :) My main goal or desire for this is just to have mirror the actual UFC as much as possible...which is why I thought using CAFs would be good, since they're more flexible like I said. I actually like your idea that you just said for switching from one fighter to another if you want to change weight classes. That would keep things fairly organized and still give people some semblance of a "career" that could be tracked. Competing in multiple weight classes at the same time would just be too chaotic and difficult to keep up with. Especially with as many CAGs as we're going to have.

Honestly, for some reason, I trust your and my matchmaking ability. I mean, for the most part, I think the matches will make themselves. It shouldn't be hard to recognize when somebody has earned a title shot, or when the top two contenders are so evenly matched that they need to fight before getting to the champ. It also would make it a lot easier to ensure that people only have one official fight per week, which again makes things more realistic in my opinion.

I know everybody will probably want to fight as much as possible, but keeping the "league" organized and maintainable is the only thing that gives it purpose really. Otherwise, it's no different from random quick play. Maybe we could set up the cards for Saturday nights, but have a policy that if you're not available, it's up to you to schedule a time with your opponent BEFORE that date to get your fight in. Saturday would just be the official fight day, with the next week's card going up on Sunday. What do you think?

MSUHitman

04-27-2009, 03:22 PM

I will be getting this on day 1 and would like to join the league as well.

talonthrawn

04-27-2009, 09:00 PM

I think we're starting to jive now. :) My main goal or desire for this is just to have mirror the actual UFC as much as possible...which is why I thought using CAFs would be good, since they're more flexible like I said. I actually like your idea that you just said for switching from one fighter to another if you want to change weight classes. That would keep things fairly organized and still give people some semblance of a "career" that could be tracked. Competing in multiple weight classes at the same time would just be too chaotic and difficult to keep up with. Especially with as many CAGs as we're going to have.

Honestly, for some reason, I trust your and my matchmaking ability. I mean, for the most part, I think the matches will make themselves. It shouldn't be hard to recognize when somebody has earned a title shot, or when the top two contenders are so evenly matched that they need to fight before getting to the champ. It also would make it a lot easier to ensure that people only have one official fight per week, which again makes things more realistic in my opinion.

I know everybody will probably want to fight as much as possible, but keeping the "league" organized and maintainable is the only thing that gives it purpose really. Otherwise, it's no different from random quick play. Maybe we could set up the cards for Saturday nights, but have a policy that if you're not available, it's up to you to schedule a time with your opponent BEFORE that date to get your fight in. Saturday would just be the official fight day, with the next week's card going up on Sunday. What do you think?

Yeah I think that should work. The biggest thing to decide is between CAF's and real fighters. With 80 fighters it wouldn't be that hard to make sure everyone got a decent fighter to start with, of course some classes are more loaded than others but I still think if 10 people sign up for the LHW division, that gives people all the more incentive to go MW, WW or LW so they can have a belt etc. So if you figure we have maybe 20 committed CAG'ers you are going to average around 5 per weight class while I'd assume HW and LHW will be a bit heavier, you aren't going to get into someone having a bad fighter or anything. Plus you will get casuals that might stroll in have a few fights and decide they can't cut it :)

I think that this setup is built for the long haul which is awesome. Now the thing with the weekly cards is that the belt holder would defend his title every week then? Maybe they defend every other card and they can be in another fight during their off week? that'd be maybe more realistic. Like you can have CAGFC 1 then the next week have a fight night for up and coming contenders? Just another idea to throw in there. So you can determine the contenders for the belt, then they fight in the PPV the next week. So during the fight night weeks the champs can fight with their CAF's or something on an 'undercard' and on the PPV's those not getting title shots could do the same. That way your getting the best of both worlds!

LilPaintballer

04-27-2009, 09:45 PM

You could always just set up a card each week and give us till the end of the week to complete fights. You could number them like the UFC- CAGFC 1, CAGFC 2, etc.

This! :applause:

I can see it now, CAGFC 1, Mir tko [insert name here]. If we use CAF's i'am still making my guy frank mir and look like him

Cmoore58

04-28-2009, 08:42 AM

Sign me up! I'm huge MMA fan! The draft would be the best way to determine who uses who IMO

n8rockerasu

04-29-2009, 04:58 PM

Yeah I think that should work. The biggest thing to decide is between CAF's and real fighters. With 80 fighters it wouldn't be that hard to make sure everyone got a decent fighter to start with, of course some classes are more loaded than others but I still think if 10 people sign up for the LHW division, that gives people all the more incentive to go MW, WW or LW so they can have a belt etc. So if you figure we have maybe 20 committed CAG'ers you are going to average around 5 per weight class while I'd assume HW and LHW will be a bit heavier, you aren't going to get into someone having a bad fighter or anything. Plus you will get casuals that might stroll in have a few fights and decide they can't cut it :)

I think that this setup is built for the long haul which is awesome. Now the thing with the weekly cards is that the belt holder would defend his title every week then? Maybe they defend every other card and they can be in another fight during their off week? that'd be maybe more realistic. Like you can have CAGFC 1 then the next week have a fight night for up and coming contenders? Just another idea to throw in there. So you can determine the contenders for the belt, then they fight in the PPV the next week. So during the fight night weeks the champs can fight with their CAF's or something on an 'undercard' and on the PPV's those not getting title shots could do the same. That way your getting the best of both worlds!

I meant to respond to this a couple days ago, but somehow forgot. You're right, with 80+ fighters, it would be plenty for everyone to definitely have one good fighter. Actually, if we do have a draft, depending on the number of CAGs we have, we could go 2 rounds deep, where everybody has a main fighter and a secondary fighter. The only restriction would be they'd have to be in two different weight classes. That way, you could play the game more often, get more fights, and compete in two weight classes, although you'd be handicapped in one weight class (more of a challenge).

My only concern doing it this way would be for the future and the potential of growing and adding more CAGs. Since we are doing something with no timetable, and people can join at any time, we wouldn't want to run out of fighters. I guess at worst, we could start with 2 fighters each, but as more people join, force the lower ranked (or higher ranked?) CAGs to give up their 2nd fighter. I'd also suggest if anybody is inactive for two straight weeks without notification, they forfeit their fighter. Right now, we've got 24 guys saying they want to join. We'll see how many actually buy the game and participate, but I do have more confidence in this than in most leagues because the time committment is so much smaller.

As far as CAFs go, they might not even be an option to use online (at least for some time). What people were saying is that to retire them, you have to actually beat the single player mode. Who knows how lengthy that will actually be, but obviously, we wouldn't want CAFs with a rating of 72 going up against Frank Mir or something. We'll have to see exactly how CAFs are implemented, but if we use my 2 fighters per CAG idea, I think we could get by without them...at least initially. We might want to switch to all CAFs once everybody has beaten the game and ranked up their created guy a bunch. I could see it being really cool then.

sleepy180

04-29-2009, 09:30 PM

i'm definitly in! Will probably go middle or welterweight. woo woo

Vulcan2422

05-15-2009, 06:18 PM

Page 4? WTH? I'm bumping this up for those of us who can't wait for the league to start!

dipset121

05-15-2009, 06:56 PM

sign me up!!!!!!!!

archibishopthedoge

05-16-2009, 02:25 PM

I'm deffo in for this.

n8rockerasu

05-17-2009, 01:08 AM

Good job bumping this back up Gary! I'm really psyched for Tuesday! Ready to throw down in Chinatown! 8-)

Nightfall

05-17-2009, 08:45 PM

So do we have any updates on how this is going to work?

ced

05-17-2009, 09:17 PM

I'll be glad to jump into the fray starting Tuesday night.

n8rockerasu

05-17-2009, 09:24 PM

So do we have any updates on how this is going to work?

I've been trying to gather info from some of the guys in the other thread who have the game already. I'll just post it here so other league members can give their input (I'm just putting it in spoiler tags in case anybody has already read it in the other thread. No sense in retreading).

Originally Posted by DT778 http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5866481#post5866481)
There is a create-a-fighter mode that lets you make dudes and use them right away in exhibition and online.Originally Posted by n8rockerasu http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867645#post5867645)
How are the attributes distributed? Can you max guys out or do the fighters start out sucky and improve as you use them online? This is critical information to the way CAGFC will function.Originally Posted by DT778 http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867284#post5867284)
You get a certain number of points to allocate wherever you want. But you can't max them out, their overall is around the late 70's. They don't improve. The only way to make a great created fighter, over time, is to make one in career mode.
Originally Posted by n8rockerasu http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867645#post5867645)
Hmm..ok. Thanks for giving that info guys. CAGFC is right around the corner!

EDIT - Actually, that made me think of an even better question. Are the only options for bringing a CAF online at the beginning when you first create him (when his rating is in the upper 70s) and at the end when you retire him? (after his ratings has drastically gone up) Or, can you "export" your CAF from career mode at any time...say, after a couple fights when he's ranked up to the mid 80s?

What I'm thinking is if that were possible, we could use CAFs right away, and it would work as though they were "improving" as we went along. That would allow for the people who "trained" more (ie. played more career mode) to have an advantage over guys who aren't putting the time into the game (as it should be). It might be a longshot, but just something I thought of. Originally Posted by primetime http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867910#post5867910)
From THQ (http://community.ufcundisputed.com/blog-post/ask-thq-developer-qa-9) Originally Posted by DT778 http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867918#post5867918)
Create-a-fighter and career mode are two separate things. When you start in career mode your dude has an overall in the 20's.

Also created fighters in career mode can be used online right away. No need to retire. And what you name him is shown online, just throwing that out there for peeps that care if peeps on Live know their real name.
Originally Posted by n8rockerasu http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867645#post5867645)
Yeah, I figured they would be two separate modes. But if your career CAF is available for online play as soon as you create him, do his ratings stay in the 20s or do they improve as your career improves?

If what primetime quoted is true, and you can retire your guy at any time (thus making him available for online play), without it screwing up your career, my thoughts for CAGFC would be to just "retire" your guy every time you have a fight coming up. That way, your online CAF would essentially be "improving" right along with your career CAF, and would be fighting at the skill level you've currently reached.

We could even have everybody post their most recent rankings before the card, which would make future matchups and rankings more accurate. This might create concerns about people who play through the career in the first week having a big advantage (especially people who have gotten the game early), which might initially be true. But as I've said, the guys playing the game the most SHOULD be ranked higher. Eventually though, they'll max out, allowing everyone else to catch up, where we'll finally begin to truly see who is the most skilled at the game.

So far, from what I'm hearing/reading, I'm really excited about the possibilities. I just got the call from "Ashley" a few minutes ago that my Gamestop is doing a midnight launch, so I should have my copy in about 28 hours. Can't wait! :)Originally Posted by DT778 http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5868104#post5868104)
When you use your career dude in exhibition or live he will be at the same level he is in career mode.

For retirement I don't think you can comeback from it, I believe it's for the game Hall of Fame.Originally Posted by n8rockerasu http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5867645#post5867645)
DT...I'm assuming you've got the game and have been playing it? Cause you're throwing out some info that is a bit contradictory to what many people have been reading. I hope what you're saying is right because that would make the CAF situation really simple for the league. I just want confirmation from people who have the game already.

Pure Apathy

05-18-2009, 10:34 PM

Hey guys, I'm still interested in doing the league but I will be out of town until late Thursday or early Friday morning. I'm going to the Cubs/Cardinals series in Saint Louis. I plan to get the game tomorrow morning but I won't be able to play until I get back.

I just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

cgarb84

05-18-2009, 11:17 PM

Pure Apathy

05-18-2009, 11:25 PM

Nice! I am going to the game Wednesday night? Which game are you going to?

All three. Are you a Cubs fan too?

cgarb84

05-18-2009, 11:28 PM

Yep I bleed Cubbie blue. :)

Regian

05-18-2009, 11:31 PM

Count me in. I'll have it this week in some way or form.

Pure Apathy

05-18-2009, 11:36 PM

Yep I bleed Cubbie blue. :)

Awesome! This is the first time I've ever went to a whole baseball series, so I'm really looking forward to it. I'm sitting in the bleachers tomorrow night, upper section behind home plate on night two, and in left field somewhere around the Casino Queen deck on the third night.

I've never been to a game at Wrigley and would like to go. I've been to two home and one away Bears game though. I'm probably going to make another trip up to Chicago to see a Bears game this year too.

DarkTower80

05-18-2009, 11:39 PM

Go Cubbies!!! I am going to try to get tickets to the Cubs-Rockies games when they come to CO.

cgarb84

05-19-2009, 12:03 AM

Awesome! This is the first time I've ever went to a whole baseball series, so I'm really looking forward to it. I'm sitting in the bleachers tomorrow night, upper section behind home plate on night two, and in left field somewhere around the Casino Queen deck on the third night.

I've never been to a game at Wrigley and would like to go. I've been to two home and one away Bears game though. I'm probably going to make another trip up to Chicago to see a Bears game this year too.

Yeah this is my first Cubs game since the 2003 Divisional series against the Braves. I haven't been to the new Cardinals stadium so that should be cool.

And I am hoping to go up to a Bears game this year too. I went to two Bear games last year, one at Soldier Field and the other down in St. Louis when they played the pathetic Rams lol. Good times, good times.

pimpster4183

05-19-2009, 12:11 AM

Count me in, I'm getting my copy tomorrow morning. This sounds very cool

AK85

05-19-2009, 12:32 AM

And I am hoping to go up to a Bears game this year too. I went to two Bear games last year, one at Soldier Field and the other down in St. Louis when they played the pathetic Rams lol. Good times, good times.

I believe you also saw those "pathetic" Rams beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bears a while back so.......8-)
And if Carpenter doesn't fall apart on Wednesday it is going to be a long day for da Cubbies.

Can't wait until tomorrow, seemed like it would never get here.

bg88

05-19-2009, 12:34 AM

:whee:Hopefully I will get my copy tomorrow. I am itching to rearrange Gonzaga's face with Crocop.

MSUHitman

05-19-2009, 05:34 AM

If you CAG's coming to St. Louis want to meet up Wednesday or Thursday night, let me know.

Am I OK to go ahead and work on creating my fighter, or do I need to wait until the league starts?

CAGLeagueSports

05-19-2009, 11:09 AM

All right, now that the game is officially out, and it has been confirmed that CAFs can be used online (and even improve as you progress in your career), lets start the actual "registration" process. In case anybody doesn't know, it's unneccessary to create your CAF in exhibition mode. You should just start a career, set your attributes and appearance, save it, and then he'll be available for both exhibition and online fighting. As your fighter's stats improve in his career, so do his stats in exhibition/online.

Once you've done this, we'd like everybody to post their fighter's stats in the following format.

Name:
Height:
Weight:
Fighting Styles:
Overall Rating: (this can be seen when scrolling through the fighters in exhibition mode)

As this information starts to come in, we'll start setting up the weight classes, which will then lead to our first tournament to determine the first CAGFC champions in each weight class. We'd like the tournament to start by Saturday, May 23rd, so try to get your info posted ASAP. Thanks guys!

cgarb84

05-19-2009, 11:49 AM

I believe you also saw those "pathetic" Rams beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bears a while back so.......8-)
And if Carpenter doesn't fall apart on Wednesday it is going to be a long day for da Cubbies.

Can't wait until tomorrow, seemed like it would never get here.

HAHA don't even try to defend the Rams, are they still even in the league? I thought they were in the CFL now :lol:.

And the only way the Cubs are going to lose is if Carpenter's arm doesn't fall off after 1 inning.

MikeBike

05-19-2009, 11:50 AM

I would also like to join. I will be geting the game after work. I doubt I will be very good but if anyone wants to play some online. 360 GT = PandaBot

n8rockerasu

05-19-2009, 04:26 PM

I'll get the ball rolling with the CAF stats. :)

Name: Nate "The Fury" Lisa
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 185lbs
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing & Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Overall Rating: 26

Matt Young

05-19-2009, 06:33 PM

If we're doing all created guys, I guess I should consider setting up one for real fighters. I was hoping we'd do both.

But I'll create my guy once I get the game.

n8rockerasu

05-19-2009, 06:52 PM

If we're doing all created guys, I guess I should consider setting up one for real fighters. I was hoping we'd do both.

But I'll create my guy once I get the game.

My personal opinion on using real fighters (after playing the game) is that there are a couple fighters in each weight class who are just stacked. Playing online and seeing person after person choosing BJ Penn or Rampage Jackson got old really fast. I could see doing small tournaments with real fighters, but I just don't see much longevity in having 5-6 guys be awesome when everybody else is just decent.

Using CAFs removes many of the limitations we were worried about. Endless amount of fighters, ability to move between weight classes, and most importantly, a level playing field. There's definitely room to do something with real fighters, but it would probably have to be more like a traditional league with a draft, set schedule, etc. If you want to set something like that up though, that's fine with me. Definitely play a few random matches online when you get the game though. It might change your mind.

Matt Young

05-19-2009, 06:58 PM

I just think it would be fun to do both. But we should do some versus matches tonight or tomorrow.

n8rockerasu

05-19-2009, 07:18 PM

I just think it would be fun to do both. But we should do some versus matches tonight or tomorrow.

Yeah man, that sounds good. Oh, and in case you never got a final confirmation, it doesn't seem you can mix weight classes at all. The first thing you do when setting up your fight (either exhibition or online) is choose your weight class. My opinion on this is the same as before, UFC is trying its hardest to be taken seriously...even in a video game.

Because of assholes like John McCain, Dana White even has to use terms like "sudden victory" because "sudden death" is just too barbaric and would probably be taken literally by those morons. Still a really fun game, but no fantasy matches.

moonknight25

05-19-2009, 07:33 PM

I agree with n8, peeps online use Silva, Ramage, Brock over and over again. I def will prefer to play in a league with my fellow cags :)

Here are my fighter details:

Name: "The Grim Reaper" I.A
Height: 6'3
Weight: 235 (Heavyweight)
Fighting Styles: Boxing, Wrestling
Overall Rating: 30

Matt Young

05-19-2009, 07:35 PM

But you said you can change your CAF's weight class, right? Does that require you to start a new career?

seen

05-19-2009, 07:35 PM

Not really sure how I missed this; I would be interested.

n8rockerasu

05-19-2009, 10:03 PM

But you said you can change your CAF's weight class, right? Does that require you to start a new career?

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you might not be able to edit weight once a career is started. I know you can edit certain things, but that might not be one. I guess I was just thinking you could always create him again at a different weight...even if you just did it in the exhibition CAF. I think guys said the stat limit for that was like the 70s though. I still think using CAFs will give us the most flexibility. Even if they suck at the beginning. At least we'll all suck together...and we'll all improve together. It'll be like evolving from the early days of UFC to now, haha. :)

JJSP

05-19-2009, 10:10 PM

I get paid tomorrow - will be picking this up in the next few days.

Royce Gracie opened up a gym in downtown Fullerton today - he's been down there doing meet and greets with fans all day. He's supposed to be having a bunch of signings all week, maybe I'll go check it out.

pimpster4183

05-19-2009, 10:12 PM

sounds great, I'm fixing to start my career right now

Vulcan2422

05-19-2009, 10:34 PM

Name: Gary "The Headhunter" Russell
Height: 6'02"
Weight: 235
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/Wrestling
Overall Rating: 31

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 01:25 AM

Regian

05-20-2009, 02:39 AM

Name: "Big Nasty" Shaun Parent
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 235
Fighting Styles: Boxing, Wrestling
Overall Rating: 32

Now, when we post these, are we locked in at these stats for any tourney? Or can we improve as much as we want offline in career mode?

seen

05-20-2009, 02:52 AM

I'll have this Thursday or Friday....That said, I'll probably make my first fighter a LHW, with a Boxing and Judo background.

homeland

05-20-2009, 02:55 AM

Name: Jean "the fury" Claude
Height: 5'11
Weight: 205
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/Wrestling
Overall Rating: 34

Matt 711

05-20-2009, 04:22 AM

Hi everyone Iam new to this site I just got the game Earlier today and I haven't even done Career mode and I haven't made a Caw yet. I was wondering can I join this league if so How do I Join. My Xbox 360 Gamertag is Matt 711 can someone please tell me how to Join this league I appreciate it thx.

Scorch

05-20-2009, 04:25 AM

pimpster4183

05-20-2009, 04:27 AM

Name: Jimi "Quick Silver" Smith
Height: 6'00
Weight: 170
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/Wrestling
Weight Class: Welterweight
Overall Rating: 29

Matt Young

05-20-2009, 04:37 AM

I've only done 5 career mode fights.

Name: Matt Young
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 185 pounds
Weight Class: Middleweight
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/BJJ
Overall Rating: 30

Everyone else forgot weight classes, even though they're easy to figure out.

Galego23

05-20-2009, 10:08 AM

My internet is down at home, so I am unable to post ratings but this is my fighters info.

Name: Christian "El Toro" Martinez
Location:Madrid, Spain
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 155 pounds
Weight Class: Lightweight
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/BJJ
Overall Rating: Probably around 25-27(will post when my internet is up.

whiptcracker

05-20-2009, 10:47 AM

Name: Matt 'The Doctor' Cracker
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Height: 6' 1"
Weight: 205 pounds
Weight Class: Lightheavyweight
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/BJJ
Overall Rating: Unsure. I'll check when I get home. I've done about 11 fights in career though.

Vulcan2422

05-20-2009, 11:03 AM

You guys better watch out for "The Headhunter". I fought him tonight, and he has some really wicked slams. I should have known from his incredibly clever and in no way generic nickname that he's a real bad dude! :)

LoL. Gotta love those Generic names right Nate? We had awesome bouts last night. You won all but one but that's cause you used your CAF. lol. But they were all awesome none the less. I mean we had alot of "Oh Shit" momments when we played. I'm glad that my CAF Stuck in there till the Second round against Tim Silva(I think thats who I fought lol). Hopefully the lag issues are taken care of. Still, had a shit ton of fun last night.

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 11:11 AM

seen, do me a favor and delete that post with all the OS stuff. No offense, but we purposefully went out of our way to make sure this "league" is NOTHING like how they're doing it. If you notice, the way they've got it structured is basically no different from a league in Madden or NBA Live. There's not going to be a "season" here. Or even a typical "schedule" for that matter.

As the OP clearly states, we're doing an old school UFC tournament to determine the first champion. After that, we'll have weekly cards with fights determined by rankings. Fighters who deserve a title shot will get a title shot. No offense to the guys at OS, but I don't want to use some gay points system to determine who gets to the "playoffs". This isn't NHL. My goal for CAGFC was and is to replicate the real UFC as closely as possible.

As for the question of whether your fighter will improve, as long as you created him in the career mode, yes, his stats will go higher as you progress through the career. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for. Yes, we will all basically start out pretty crappy, but the people who put the most time into their career will begin to separate themselves from the rest of the pack. I consider that to be training. If you're training more than anybody else, you SHOULD be better than them.

I hope that answers your questions and alleviates any concerns you may have had. Oh, also, Matt, I didn't ask people to put their weight class because, yeah, it's kinda easy to figure out. Nice to see you're a middleweight though (I was starting to worry I'd be by myself, haha). Time to throw down...bitch. ;)

EDIT - One more thing about your overall rating, it's not anything that has to be locked in for any particular fight. I just wanted people to post them so we have a general idea of where everybody stands. Obviously, you'd want to keep training all the way up to your fight, so if you want to check in before (or after) your fight and post your most recent rating, I'll keep them up to date, and it'll work hand in hand with your record when determining rankings. I hope that makes sense. :)

Galego23

05-20-2009, 11:20 AM

CAGLeagueSports

05-20-2009, 11:41 AM

All right, the OP is now updated with our newest additions to the roster. Every weight class is now represented, but we need more WW and LW fighters to avoid just handing someone the belt, haha.

That would be my only request to people unsure of which weight class to be in. If you have a preferred class, by all means, set up your guy to be in it. But if not, take a look at what we need so we can at least try to be somewhat evenly divided. I'm sure as more people join this won't be a problem. Just something I'm thinking about for the early days of CAGFC.

MikeBike

05-20-2009, 11:57 AM

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 12:06 PM

A suggestion, why not just have everyone make a CAF for online, by online I mean not one for career mode. That way we all have the same ammount of points to use instead of someone who did career mode with beginner dificulty and has a 100 overall rating. Just an idea.

Because those CAFs are limited to about a 75 overall rating. I know right now when we're all in the 20-30s, that doesn't seem bad, but you have to think long term. I envision doing this for at least a year (assuming they release another game next year), so having guys progressively get better just makes sense. If all of our guys were neutered at 75, we'd have a ceiling where certain moves would probably just never be attainable. Plus, like I've said, I still feel that people who play the game more SHOULD be rewarded with having a higher rating.

Yeah, I could see where a difference in difficulty used could create an advantage, but how many people are going through their first career on advanced or expert? I'll admit, I'm on beginner right now. But I also plan to create another career on a higher difficulty after I finish this one. In essence, this is my "online career". This might be an issue for the people who intend to play through the game once and then trade it in for FN4, but honestly, I'm not concerned with those people. What I like about doing it this way is that your 2nd fight against a particular fighter may be NOTHING like the first time you faced him. It allows us to all grow together. And maybe it's just me, but I think that's pretty cool.

whiptcracker

05-20-2009, 12:22 PM

Because those CAFs are limited to about a 75 overall rating. I know right now when we're all in the 20-30s, that doesn't seem bad, but you have to think long term. I envision doing this for at least a year (assuming they release another game next year), so having guys progressively get better just makes sense. If all of our guys were neutered at 75, we'd have a ceiling where certain moves would probably just never be attainable. Plus, like I've said, I still feel that people who play the game more SHOULD be rewarded with having a higher rating.

Yeah, I could see where a difference in difficulty used could create an advantage, but how many people are going through their first career on advanced or expert? I'll admit, I'm on beginner right now. But I also plan to create another career on a higher difficulty after I finish this one. In essence, this is my "online career". This might be an issue for the people who intend to play through the game once and then trade it in for FN4, but honestly, I'm not concerned with those people. What I like about doing it this way is that your 2nd fight against a particular fighter may be NOTHING like the first time you faced him. It allows us to all grow together. And maybe it's just me, but I think that's pretty cool.

That's cool, but I hope there will be more than just CAF tournaments while we are all weak. Plus right now we don't even have enough people in any weight class to have a tournament.

cgarb84

05-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Name: Codi "El Toro" Garber
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 170 pounds
Division: Welterweight
Technique: Muay Thai, BJJ
Overall Rating: 31

I am playing my career on Advanced just so we all have some perspective.

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 03:19 PM

I am playing my career on Advanced just so we all have some perspective.

I wanted to add something to this since it's been brought up as a potential issue. Honestly, none of us really know how the "level up" system works for CAFs yet. Like I said, I started on beginner just because I wanted to give the game a run through and boost my CAF without struggling through the main game. However, the unaccounted for variable is whether you rank up quicker by playing on a harder difficulty. cgarb84's fighter might skyrocket because he's going through on advanced. The way I see it, it's just strategy. I can't really say with any certainty whether I'm better off or he is.

cgarb84

05-20-2009, 03:26 PM

Yeah I don't know how that will all work. I just know that I just won my 5th fight (5-0) and I am only rated a 31 right now. That doesn't seem high to me, at least not that I am aware of.

Galego23

05-20-2009, 03:31 PM

I wanted to add something to this since it's been brought up as a potential issue. Honestly, none of us really know how the "level up" system works for CAFs yet. Like I said, I started on beginner just because I wanted to give the game a run through and boost my CAF without struggling through the main game. However, the unaccounted for variable is whether you rank up quicker by playing on a harder difficulty. cgarb84's fighter might skyrocket because he's going through on advanced. The way I see it, it's just strategy. I can't really say with any certainty whether I'm better off or he is.

I did a quick search on-line and from everything I was able to get there is no difference between Expert or Beginner in terms of points.

It is just much easier to get points in beginner than expert obviously since Sparring won't be as difficult in Beginner as it would in Expert.

whiptcracker

05-20-2009, 03:33 PM

I wanted to add something to this since it's been brought up as a potential issue. Honestly, none of us really know how the "level up" system works for CAFs yet. Like I said, I started on beginner just because I wanted to give the game a run through and boost my CAF without struggling through the main game. However, the unaccounted for variable is whether you rank up quicker by playing on a harder difficulty. cgarb84's fighter might skyrocket because he's going through on advanced. The way I see it, it's just strategy. I can't really say with any certainty whether I'm better off or he is.

It works the same, no matter what level of difficulty you are on.

The main difference is sparring on higher difficulties is more difficult than sparring on lower difficulties which means that there is a potential for less points to be gained.

Then again someone who chooses to do things like autograph signings instead of sparring will miss out on points as well. It will not lead to a major difference in development other than sparring.

Vulcan2422

05-20-2009, 03:47 PM

Well my Overall now is at a 46. I think I'm playing way too much.

DarkTower80

05-20-2009, 03:58 PM

Name:Brandon "The Grim Reaper" Craig
Height:6'7"
Weight:235
Fighting Styles:Kickboxing/BJJ
Overall Rating:44

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 04:09 PM

It works the same, no matter what level of difficulty you are on.

The main difference is sparring on higher difficulties is more difficult than sparring on lower difficulties which means that there is a potential for less points to be gained.

Then again someone who chooses to do things like autograph signings instead of sparring will miss out on points as well. It will not lead to a major difference in development other than sparring.

Well, if that's true, then I'd say the "smart" strategy would be playing through once on beginner. For the guys who aren't, I don't really know what to say. It just made sense to me to go through once to get a feel for the game, and then up the difficulty the next time around.

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 04:12 PM

Name:Brandon "The Grim Reaper" Craig
Height:6'7"
Weight:235
Fighting Styles:Kickboxing/BJJ
Overall Rating:44

Why the hell are guys who are this tall STILL only at 235lbs? Gary and I were talking about this last night. He was wondering why he couldn't get his guy (6'2") to weigh more, and I told him it was probably because weight was linked to height. But now this really doesn't make any sense. It's really just stupid that weight can't be controlled independently, but how else can you get to the upper ranges of the heavyweight class?

EDIT - Actually, I think it's ironic that all you guys are capped at 235lbs because I think that's right where UFC needs to put a Super Heavyweight division. Over 235lbs to 260lbs (or more even) would keep guys like Randy Couture from having to see Brock Lesnar ever again. These new freakazoid heavyweights are just too much.

pimpster4183

05-20-2009, 04:30 PM

Am I gaining anything from doing these autograph sessions, interviews or photo shoots?

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 04:33 PM

Am I gaining anything from doing these autograph sessions, interviews or photo shoots?

bitches ;)

homeland

05-20-2009, 04:35 PM

Am I gaining anything from doing these autograph sessions, interviews or photo shoots?

It gives you more cred. More cred= better equipment and more sponser stickers to put on your ass.

whiptcracker

05-20-2009, 04:38 PM

The maximum weight limit for CAF is 235. Weight is tied to class not height and isn't changeable.

And pimpster, no you aren't really gaining anything through the autograph sections except for a small amount of cred, which you can generally gain a similar amount by wearing sponsor patches during a match. Same goes for attending fight nights, getting interviews, etc. Most give 200-300 cred. Fights usually end up with between 1000-2000 cred. Wear 5-6 sponsor patched during a fight and you get an extra 200-300 cred.

It basically wastes a day you could've spent training/sparring.

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 04:42 PM

The maximum weight limit for CAF is 235. Weight is tied to class not height and isn't changeable.

Yeah, I gotta say, that's dumb. Why the hell did they do that?

DarkTower80

05-20-2009, 05:01 PM

I was not very happy when I was making the fighter too. A sliding scale where your weight class changes as you make your guy bigger would have been my preference.

Vulcan2422

05-20-2009, 05:10 PM

The weight is so stupid. I'm fighting guys that are like 260 and I say to my self....WTF? Why cap the CAF at 235? Stupid as hell.

BoSoxFan900

05-20-2009, 05:13 PM

Name: "The Buzzsaw" Allen Duke
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 205
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/BJJ
Overall Rating: 39

Are we locked into that overall rating, or can we continue in our career mode until Saturday?

CAGLeagueSports

05-20-2009, 05:37 PM

Are we locked into that overall rating, or can we continue in our career mode until Saturday?

Definitely continue. It's really just a starting point. I don't even know if we'll have enough guys signed up to start the tournament on Saturday, but I just wanted to put numbers on things so people know it is starting soon. I'm hoping a few more people get added to the MW, WW, and LW classes. I'd like at least 4 fighters per division for the tournament. That would make for a total of 20 guys. I'm sure we'll grow as we go along, but even a 4 man tourney for each weight class would be a decent starting point.

talonthrawn

05-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Honestly, after playing online vs. CAF's, I think I'm out... People just make their Submissions 99 and tap you out within 30 seconds, happened to me twice today. Ridiculous.

Vulcan2422

05-20-2009, 06:01 PM

Honestly, after playing online vs. CAF's, I think I'm out... People just make their Submissions 99 and tap you out within 30 seconds, happened to me twice today. Ridiculous.

That's where you gotta get the slams. I was slamming down Nate pretty good last night so he couldn't get a submission. I just wish I knew how to overturn them so I could get on top.

talonthrawn

05-20-2009, 06:03 PM

whiptcracker

05-20-2009, 06:20 PM

Takedown defense.

Regian

05-20-2009, 06:27 PM

Yeah but when your going against some guy with 99 submission offense, and he takes you down within the first minute locks in a Kimura and gets it when I'm spinning the joystick as fast as fucking possible and he still wins, that's retarded.
Yeah, you have to get those stats up or try something else. I hate to say it, but there just isn't a fighting game that has a cheese-free online community. Which is probably why the CAGFC was started in the first place. Cheese-free games and ballbusting amongst friends.

On a related note, I have had a few online bouts myself with two good ones going into the third round.

Then I got knocked the fuck out.

n8rockerasu

05-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Yeah, you have to get those stats up or try something else. I hate to say it, but there just isn't a fighting game that has a cheese-free online community. Which is probably why the CAGFC was started in the first place. Cheese-free games and ballbusting amongst friends

Corrected ;)

talon, since you were one of the driving forces of this thing man, it would suck for you to bail...unless you're planning on trading the game in or something. The problem with online gaming as a whole is that some people have no interest in having fun. They'll steal, cheat, and kill as long as it means they win. Playing randoms is a horrible experience in basically every game ever. That's why us having a somewhat controlled environment with people who aren't total douchebags is one of the few things that makes Xbox Live worth the subscription cost anymore.

I mean, look at the damn UFC leaderboard already. I looked last night...the same freaking day the game was released, and some asshat was 169-1 already. I realize the game was sold early in a lot of places, but don't companies realize this RUINS the online experience of these games? Guys like this have probably already beaten the game 10 times and have a CAF maxed out in every weight class. On the other hand, he's probably never seen a woman or been outside of his parents basement either, but seriously! Sadly, the bottom line is, if you're not playing with friends, most of the time, you're better off not playing. But unfortunately, that's not a problem unique to UFC.

sleepy180

05-20-2009, 08:14 PM

Middleweight
Eric "El Toro" Ortiz
Height: 6'3
Fighting Style: Boxing/Wrestling

Not sure the rest, my brother is playing. Will get the info later. Just wanted to get myself in there.

talonthrawn

05-20-2009, 08:46 PM

Its just frustrating as I consider myself an 'above average' gamer and to dominate a fight just to get beat by some random ass submission or to lose before i can even throw a punch is just retarded and ultimately frustrating. I don't know, go ahead and put me in but if I throw my xbox out the window I'm out lol

Middleweight
Tyler "The Grim Reaper" Young
Height: 6'2"
Fighting Style: Kickboxing/BJJ

BTW: If middleweight gets too crowded I'll make a WW or LW to even it out, I'll keep track. I

Vulcan2422

05-20-2009, 11:40 PM

If talon does decide to bail I will gladly help out. Also, I just checked my Overall when I fought Matt with my GOOD CAF. It's a 70 right now. :D Getting up there slowly. Then Mir knocked me out good when Matt Played lol.

bg88

05-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Name: Blake "The Headhunter" Garber
Height: 6'2"
Weight Division: Heavyweight
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing, BJJ
Overall Rating: 38

So I guess I am getting close to a third of the way done with my career and I haven't been able to progress as much as I would like. I've been playing on the 3rd difficulty (advanced) and right now my record is 8-4. Things have gotten a lot tougher since I started fighting real fighters. Today I lost to Coleman after taking that fight on 2 weeks notice, got knocked out by Crocop (hurt for multiple reasons) and also got knocked out by fucking Justin McCully This loss hurt the most since McCully sucks ass. The only real fighter that I've dominated multiple times is Eddie Sanchez. :lol:

Regian

05-21-2009, 01:43 AM

My overall is up to 42 now. Been winning and losing, have a 8-9 record, I think.

MSUHitman

05-21-2009, 05:12 AM

Jason Hart
Light Heavyweight
6 ft. 2 in. 205 lbs.
Kickboxing/Wrestling
Overall rating 42

(10-2 so far in career mode.)

Cmoore58

05-21-2009, 08:29 AM

Chris "Big Nasty Moore
Heavyweight
6'3 235
Muay Thai/Judo
Not sure of overall rating I'm 3-2

moojuice

05-21-2009, 09:34 AM

I think i'll give it a go:
Name: Jackie "Hands of Stone" Chan
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185 lbs (Middleweight)
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/Judo
Overall Rating: I'll have to check this.

Galego23

05-21-2009, 10:04 AM

cgarb84

05-21-2009, 01:08 PM

I posted my stats back on page 5, haven't been added to the OP yet. There have been a lot of posts here recently so I probably just got overlooked.

CAGLeagueSports

05-21-2009, 01:38 PM

I posted my stats back on page 5, haven't been added to the OP yet. There have been a lot of posts here recently so I probably just got overlooked.

Hey man, sorry about that! I don't know how I missed you. Stupid oversight on my part. I got you added now. Glad to see we've got another Welterweight! Hopefully, the lighter divisions start to fill up a bit.

pimpster4183

05-21-2009, 01:53 PM

I know exactly what you're talking about with the submission thing. Last night I was playing ranked matches online, I fought this CAF who was making his debut, he took me down (GSP) and made me tap super quick. About an hour goes by and guess what, I'm in this guys room again and now he's like 8-0, I fight him again and he does the same shit.

MikeBike

05-21-2009, 02:29 PM

I will be doing a Light Heavy. I dont have the info right now but will post when I get home from work.

Gillums

05-21-2009, 02:32 PM

Name: Jay"Quick Silver" Gillums
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 235 lbs (Heavyweight)
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/Judo
Overall Rating: 32

Vulcan2422

05-21-2009, 04:23 PM

I just finished the game. How sad is that? lol. Anyways my final rating is 83. I had no life while playing the Career.

MSUHitman

05-21-2009, 04:24 PM

Jason Hart
Light Heavyweight
6 ft. 2 in. 205 lbs.
Kickboxing/Wrestling
Overall rating 42

(10-2 so far in career mode.)

Forgot to say my dude's nickname is Buzzsaw.

n8rockerasu

05-21-2009, 04:27 PM

I just finished the game. How sad is that? lol. Anyways my final rating is 83. I had no life while playing the Career.

Are you serious? Your CAF is up to an 83 now? What happened? Did it just force you to retire? Looks like we know who the favorite for first CAGFC Heavyweight Champ is, haha.

Galego23

05-21-2009, 04:37 PM

i didn't think there were enough hours in a day to be done with the game already, christ lol.

CAGLeagueSports

05-21-2009, 04:49 PM

See, that's exactly the idea though. Vulcan decided to be a loser for a couple days and now has a high rated fighter to show for it, haha. ;) He's way ahead of everybody, but he SHOULD be favored to win the belt with that kind of effort put in. If only life was always that fair. Now it's on everybody else to catch up. There's a method to the madness. See! :)

Matt Young

05-21-2009, 04:50 PM

n8rockerasu

05-21-2009, 05:01 PM

Are we still starting this weekend? Because we'll maybe have 2 people finished with career mode by then. I had to replay that cheap "we're ratcheting up the difficulty 100x" Anderson Silva fight 21 times.

I'm not totally sure yet. We still only have one LW. I could live with having only 2 MW, because that would at least get us by temporarily...but I wish we'd get another LW so somebody wouldn't just be handed the title and not get a chance to fight. The rest of the divisions are more than ready though. And even if there are some people who have finished career mode *ahem..Gary..jesus christ..wtf???* lol ;), it's not like they'll never be beatable. They just got a head start. Nothing wrong with that.

You had that much trouble with Silva on beginner though? That's crazy. Luckily, I haven't had to fight him yet. Yushin Okami is the champ in my career (and my next match), and Silva is only ranked 4th. I'm sure I'll have to defend against him though. Gee, I can't wait. :roll: haha

Vulcan2422

05-21-2009, 05:07 PM

I Literally played this game on Tuesday night at 9pm. Had a few bouts with nate, Then went back to Career. Then the next two days I literally woke up at 10 am and played till about 8pm. Hanged out with the wife for two hours, Then went back to the game at 12 am and played till 2. That was my schedule for two days. I just created a Peter Miller and I'm gonna put him through the MW Career.

This is just a little fyi In about 2017, they FORCE you to retire. Dana White sends you an e-mail telling you your last match, and Joe Rogan just does a interview talking about how much you did for the sport. After that, Everytime you go into Career Mode you have to go to your retired fighter to change his clothing pretty much

talonthrawn

05-21-2009, 05:08 PM

I don't understand talon's complaint. Hell, there's always a work around to that and I don't understand why he's so upset about it. If someone was smart enough to raise their Submission to 99 that kudos to them. Hell, I know I've focused the majority of my points towards Submission offense, I'm glad my thought process on it proved right.

It's because there is absolutely no technique to winning like that. One takedown, kimura, fight over. How is that fair or fun? That's all I'm saying. If you just want quick lameass wins then thats fine, but that makes it incredibly less fun for everyone else. Anyways, guess I'll start spending time on my career so my guy is higher than a 43. I think I'm 11-4 in career mode.

Matt Young

05-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Vulcan2422

05-21-2009, 06:09 PM

Well, they did say career mode was 7 years.

Nate, as I said in the other thread, they cheesed it up with Silva in career mode (my 2nd title defense). I used my CAF and beat Anderson 9 out of 10 times on Advanced in exhibition. In career mode, I dominated probably 16 of 21 fights before getting flash KO'd or trapped in an inescapable muay thai clinch.

Last night you were all like "I'm undefeated in Career and I'm on Beginner!" I then said "Well watch out for some of the higher ups, they will tear you apart.....even on Beginner." Now do you see? lol

seen

05-21-2009, 08:59 PM

Finally got this game, really having a good time so far.

Name: "The Doctor" Roy Jones Jr.
Height: 5-11
Weight: 205 (LH)
Fighting Styles: Boxing, Judo

Vulcan2422

05-21-2009, 09:14 PM

Well Nate, I think I might be Champion once we start this league. I think I showed off my CAF Very well against a couple fighters today. :D

AK85

05-21-2009, 10:59 PM

Name: Andrew "Quick Silver" Kennel
Height: 6'0"
Weight Division: Lightweight - 155lbs
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai/BJJ
Overall: 62 (can't remember for sure)

I was walking through the "fake" fighters on advanced only to get to Maynard and have him completely dominate me :(

CAGLeagueSports

05-22-2009, 12:37 AM

Nice to see the new additions to CAGFC. AK, you really saved the day by joining the lightweights. Now, every division has at least two fighters, meaning we WILL be starting the tournament on Saturday. The matchups will be chosen at random and the brackets will be posted by Saturday morning.

Registration for the tournament will continue until the bracket has been posted. At this point, some weight classes have an odd number of fighters. If that is still true when the bracket is made, the highest ranked fighter will receive a bye in the first round. The tournament will be single elimination and the results of each fight should be posted in this thread by both the winner and the loser (to maintain accuracy) in the following format:

Winner | Loser | Decision (ie. KO, TKO, submission, unanimous decision, split decision) | Time/Round

After the tournament, fighter rankings will be assigned based on performance and/or overall rating, and used as a means for setting up matches in the future. Any fighter who registers for CAGFC after the tournament will be added to the roster as the lowest ranked fighter in their weight class. Moving up in the rankings will be up to them.

The start is almost here guys. I hope you're all ready! :)

MikeBike

05-22-2009, 12:47 AM

Name: Michael "The Fury" Klein
Height: 6'4
Weight Division: Light Heavy, 205lbs
Fighting styles: Boxing/Wrestling
OVerall: 31

CAGLeagueSports

05-22-2009, 12:52 AM

Mike, we need your XBL gamertag.

EDIT - Nevermind. I remembered that you posted it, and found it. You're good :)

Vulcan2422

05-22-2009, 12:54 AM

whiptcracker

05-22-2009, 01:22 AM

I am so ready. :D

Do we get like a little picture (created by homever) to put in our sig if we win the title? lol. I know, I guess I'm just way into it now lol.

Also since we all respect each other...maybe make it mandatory to touch gloves before the fight? I don't know, just spitballing here lol.

I was wondering about the whole touching gloves thing as well. I think it would be great for this to be done as a sign of respect in the first round of the fight.

BoSoxFan900

05-22-2009, 03:21 AM

I'm probably going to have to pull out guys. I'm pretty sure my 360 is crapping out on me. I thought it was a week or so ago but then it seemed fine but now it's screwing up again.

Pure Apathy

05-22-2009, 03:31 AM

I just got home from the baseball games. I'm going to start playing tomorrow and I'll also register on here.

Matt Young

05-22-2009, 06:31 AM

I'm probably going to have to pull out guys. I'm pretty sure my 360 is crapping out on me. I thought it was a week or so ago but then it seemed fine but now it's screwing up again.

Hey, if you're not getting rid of it altogether, I'm sure the guys in charge wouldn't mind at all if you joined us after the system is fixed.

Nate, what's your overall rating? Mine's in the upper 40's after a 14-0 start to my career. I've barely gotten to play today, and I'm not sure how much time I'll have tomorrow or Saturday. Fuck my CAGFC career. :(

But I will somehow overcome the odds to meet you in the finals of the middleweight title tournament, and KO you with a head kick- the first shot of the fight. I had a dream about it which included an anthropomorphic porcupine telling me, "What thou hast seen shall come to pass." Seriously.

P.S. Be a middleweight, Devin. Or not, since you always beat me on Smackdown.

CAGLeagueSports

05-22-2009, 11:13 AM

Well, here's the thing, for this kind of "league", I don't really think pulling out is neccessary. It sucks that your 360 is screwing up, but are you planning on getting it fixed/buying a new one? If so, then just come back when you're ready. If you don't think you'll be able to participate in the tournament, that's fine. I can remove you from that, but you could always rejoin us down the road. Remember, there's no timetables here. Just let me know what you want to do.

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 11:18 AM

Nate, what's your overall rating? Mine's in the upper 40's after a 14-0 start to my career. I've barely gotten to play today, and I'm not sure how much time I'll have tomorrow or Saturday. Fuck my CAGFC career. :(

But I will somehow overcome the odds to meet you in the finals of the middleweight title tournament, and KO you with a head kick- the first shot of the fight. I had a dream about it which included an anthropomorphic porcupine telling me, "What thou hast seen shall come to pass." Seriously.

P.S. Be a middleweight, Devin. Or not, since you always beat me on Smackdown.

I think I'm in the low 40s now. I haven't been playing the game as heavily as Gary, because I had to finish up my NHL season and I'm trying to catch up with MLB 09 as well. I'm not too worried about winning the tournament. I think I'm more concerned with just getting this thing off the ground, haha. I want to make sure everything works out ok and everybody has a good time. Tournaments are always chaotic. I look forward to your head kick. :)

Nightfall

05-22-2009, 12:17 PM

I won't be able to start playing until Saturday morning, so it looks like I won't make it into this tourny. But I will be involved in everything after that.

Vulcan2422

05-22-2009, 12:18 PM

Ha, That's the new go to when somebody has no life now, Just say my name :P. I think I might be getting a pass for this weekend as per what the rules I been reading. I played a little Ranked online last night and I will say this, If I'm going up guys the same level as my self, I have a great time. But a level 47, It's just sad. It's also nice to know that some people on live do do the fist bump thing as well. Some just ignore it completely when I do it and then that's when I just unload the shit out of them lol. But yah, like I said. I might be too excitied for the league to start. I also have a Peter Miller Middleweight I'm working on right now, that is if we can have two fighters in the league.

MikeBike

05-22-2009, 12:20 PM

I won't be able to start playing until Saturday morning, so it looks like I won't make it into this tourny. But I will be involved in everything after that.

Tourny doesnt start till saturday bro, you can play!

homeland

05-22-2009, 12:28 PM

Definitely down for the terrorist fist bump at the beginning. Didn't even crack open the manual so had no idea that you could do that. I thought the Cpu was just doing a weak jap at the start of the match. ha.

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 12:53 PM

Tourny doesnt start till saturday bro, you can play!

I think he means he doesn't have his fighter created yet or anything. There's still time to get in, but we have to have some kind of cutoff so there's time to have the brackets ready so people know who they're facing. I want to have the brackets posted late tonight/early tomorrow, so if Nightfall can't start till tomorrow, it's probably safe to say he'll miss the tourney. No big deal though. After the tournament, it will be much easier, considering we'll only be dealing with individual matches.

Definitely down for the terrorist fist bump at the beginning. Didn't even crack open the manual so had no idea that you could do that. I thought the Cpu was just doing a weak jap at the start of the match. ha.

Yeah, I think it looks like a cat pawing at a ball of yarn, haha. But it is very sportsmanlike. :) For anybody who doesn't know, it's just the dpad toward your opponent.

Ultimate Matt X

05-22-2009, 01:07 PM

Okay I definitely want in and would like to be a part of any tournaments coming up. I don't have a fighter designed yet, but he'll be a Heavy Weight once I create him. Figure I'll try to do a realistic looking version of me first.

Ultimate Matt X

05-22-2009, 01:12 PM

homeland

05-22-2009, 01:13 PM

we can have more than 1 CAF in the league at 1 time correct? Specifically I'm almost down with my light heavy weight and was looking to make another fighter in one of the lighter weight classes.

cgarb84

05-22-2009, 01:21 PM

I won't be able to play my tournament match until Sunday. My Saturday is stuffed full with work. I should be able to play anytime on Sunday though.

Nightfall

05-22-2009, 02:02 PM

I don't want to jump into the tourny with a fighter that's had no chance to develop in career mode. And I'll be out of town Sunday and Monday (Giants/Braves!), so it will be a week or so before my fighter is ready.

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 02:13 PM

Also, n8rocker have you considered a league using the actual UFC guys and not created fighters in addition to this? Just wondered cause maybe doing that separately would stop any concerns with CAF that have unrealistic stats.

We've discussed it, but personally, I'd rather not do it in league format. The reason being, the range of talent in the actual fighters is too wide. We've got almost 30 guys here already, so allowing 5-6 people to have really awesome fighters while the other 25 are just decent wouldn't be very fun for very long. I'm totally open to real fighter tournaments though...where we pick new fighters every time. I just think one guy having Anderson Silva for months on end isn't really fair. But if somebody else wants to set up a league like that, by all means, go ahead. It just doesn't interest me to potentially have Mark Coleman and get my ass handed to me by Brock Lesnar every time.

we can have more than 1 CAF in the league at 1 time correct? Specifically I'm almost down with my light heavy weight and was looking to make another fighter in one of the lighter weight classes.

At this point, I don't see why not. If you're creating multiple careers with guys in different weight classes, you might as well be able to compete with all of them. The only stipulation with this would be that it's twice the responsibility. Both fighters would be held to the same standard as though they were handled by two separate people. But if anybody started to dominate and basically monopolized the belts with their multiple fighters, we'd have to reconsider though, haha. But for now, it should be fine.

Vulcan2422

05-22-2009, 03:05 PM

If the guy from the other thread doesn't take Peter "Mayhem" Miller I might just put him into it as well lol. I could probably get him up there like the same I did with my Heavyweight. :D

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 04:30 PM

If the guy from the other thread doesn't take Peter "Mayhem" Miller I might just put him into it as well lol. I could probably get him up there like the same I did with my Heavyweight. :D

Gary, you keep calling him Peter Miller, but his first name is Jason. I think Peter Miller does porn, haha. Also, sorry to tell you there's no Santa Claus, but I found this on the web earlier:

http://www.mmatko.com/bully-beatdown-using-pro-stuntmen-to-act-part-of-bully/
I knew from the beginning that the show advertised for tough guys to apply and they would be chosen based on some sort of bully mentality towards their friends. I did not find out until a few days ago that not one of the bullies had in fact, ever bullied the actors that have played the part of the victims.

I spoke with a friend that helped with the production of the show and was told that most of the bully/victim combo had never even met prior to the taping of each episode.
Take bully Jon from the last episode with Jake Shields. Last year he was on the Fox TV show Battle of the Bods where Jonathan proclaimed to be a professional stuntman as he judged the bodies of young women. jon-bods

Even though Bully Beatdown is filled with actors the fights are mostly real. The stuntmen do try to fight back against the Pro MMA fighters but their payday comes not from the 10,000 prize money offered up but from the money guaranteed on the contract they signed going into the fight.

I knew that the show was a little fake but I am disappointed in just how fake it really is.

Update: I have been asked for proof that any of these guys are actors. Well hear you go.
Ryan Adam Kessman : one of the fighters IMDb Resume. Lists his background Performance Skills: Martial Arts, Stunts. He was even on My name is Earl.Also, this was allegedly posted by Mayhem himself. I haven't been able to confirm he actually posted it though.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum.posts&thread=1446796&forum=1&page=1&pc=18
I have a confession to make.

Bully Beatdown is completely fake. Everyone on it is actors. Everyone involved with the show knows that it is fake and we script pretty much everything that comes out of their mouth. I have not yet got an executive producer credit, or a writer's credit- but I write the bully's dialouge myself. I will be E.P. on season two. That's right, our scripted fake show is suppossedly doing so well done that we will be getting a season two. Makes my stomach hurt that I'm selling this slop. I'm sorry.

The fights are the most complicated portion of the show. The real trick is, hiring stuntmen that are so skilled that they can make it look like we are putting them in 16 oz gloves, headgear and convincingly get beat up by mixed martial artists. We looked high and low, but we found them, and made the show really convincing. Unfortunately, the people on the internet are much too bright to be fooled by this trickery, and have exposed us. This doesn't really affect us too much, because no one cares what a few back alley websites say about our hit MTV show, but I couldn't bear to read the forum with all this shame that I'm carrying around. I'm actually considering turning down the contract to host the next season because of the ridicule that I'm recieving on this board and others.

Again. I'm sorry interwebz. I apologize, sincerely.I can't believe John McCarthy would take part in something like that if it's true. He helped build the sport as much as anybody. I guess money talks. I knew the overacting on the show was horrible, but I just figured it was MTV's terrible directing ("Act like the biggest arrogant prick you possibly can. Make people hate you! That's what America wants!")...just like all their other "reality shows": My Super Sweet 16, Date My Daughter, Whores on Parade (ok, I made that last one up...but it really isn't much of a stretch). MTV should go straight to hell for selling its soul in the mid 90s.

Matt Young

05-22-2009, 08:03 PM

Oh, I'll try to start my fighter tonight too.

Also, n8rocker have you considered a league using the actual UFC guys and not created fighters in addition to this? Just wondered cause maybe doing that separately would stop any concerns with CAF that have unrealistic stats.

I suggested the idea and would be willing to run it. It might be 3 weeks before it kicks into gear, though, because I want to let this one get off the ground first, plus I have finals in a few weeks.

Nate, someone at another board linked to a site that has a great tournament/seeding/stat tracking set up. Check it out: http://xboxmma.com

Vulcan2422

05-22-2009, 08:15 PM

DUDE, I have no Idea why Either, I have to research WTF Peter Miller is. so yah my bad. I don't know why I keep calling him that.

CAGLeagueSports

05-22-2009, 08:21 PM

Just wanted to let everybody know that the seeding for the tournament will be based on current overall ratings, so try to post the most recent rating for your fighter, otherwise, we'll have to just go based on what we have. Thanks!

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 08:29 PM

Nate, someone at another board linked to a site that has a great tournament/seeding/stat tracking set up. Check it out: http://xboxmma.com

That site seems pretty cool. It seems like it needs some time to grow though because right now it's very barebones. For example, I started to set up our tournament, and discovered that they only offer 4, 8, 12, and 16 man formats...nothing to account for an odd number. Also, it was limited to actual fighters only. It's a cool idea, but doesn't really fit our needs. Thanks for posting it though.

whiptcracker

05-22-2009, 08:39 PM

Finished career. My updates stats are 93.

Panther1484

05-22-2009, 08:57 PM

I may have to get this game. Looks like an awesome league you guys have set up.

Matt Young

05-22-2009, 09:00 PM

seen

05-22-2009, 09:35 PM

I am creating another fighter in addition to RJJ(OVR 42).

Name: Manny "The Headhunter" Pacquiao (They really need more nicknames and more locations to be from.)
Height: 5-7
Weight: 155
Fighting Styles: Boxing, BJJ
Overall: Will post shortly

Finished career. My updates stats are 93.

Uh oh, my LH guy is in trouble.

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 09:42 PM

By when?

Let's say 3 AM EST. That way I can get the brackets up first thing in the morning.

Vulcan2422

05-22-2009, 10:33 PM

Finished career. My updates stats are 93.

I wonder if i was LW If I could get up there. I guess you did alot of Sparring lol. I should do my JASON Miller and see how high I could get him just sparring and losing matches non stop lol.

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 10:43 PM

I wonder if i was LW If I could get up there. I guess you did alot of Sparring lol. I should do my JASON Miller and see how high I could get him just sparring and losing matches non stop lol.

I don't think losing would help. Even with a loss, time passes. So, if the career is limited to 7 years, it should be the same either way. Plus, winning fights earns cred, which gets you better equipment, which makes training easier. Sparring even seems easier. I'm pulling in about 60 points per sparring session now. Unfortunately, I've restarted my career like 3 times, because I did things wrong, or didn't like the way my guy looked, haha.

I'm struggling now to not restart because I didn't realize your fighter never ages. (how dumb is that?) I made my guy 18 because I figured it would allow him to have a longer career and earn more points. It's retarded that he's in his 4th year of fighting...and is still 18. OCD much? You betcha! :D

whiptcracker

05-22-2009, 10:51 PM

I wonder if i was LW If I could get up there. I guess you did alot of Sparring lol. I should do my JASON Miller and see how high I could get him just sparring and losing matches non stop lol.

Yep, sparring, training and camps. None of that autograph crap does much so I skipped it all, same with taking fights on short notice. Short notice fights just cuts into the training time and all it does if you win is advance your fighter up the ranks, which at the beginning part of the career just means tougher opponents.

Would've been higher if I didn't mess up some of my sparring :)

Losing earns less cred which hurts equipment. I went 33-1, missing that achievement by just one f'n fight. Tried to takedown Griffin and he lifted a knee, d'oh.

Did a player match online today and the lag made everything feel like one step behind what I was inputting.

Ultimate Matt X

05-22-2009, 10:52 PM

Okay my guy will be a light heavyweight, but I think I gotta sit out the first tournament because I suck shit in my career right now. I'll work on getting a decent character (this one or a new one) soon. Definitely want to do some matches in the meantime and maybe we could get a little mini tourney going with a party of whoever is on sometime soon.

Ultimate Matt X

05-22-2009, 10:54 PM

Oh and if we did a real fighter league/tournament I'd think everyone could just take their top guy and have an alternate for when you gotta fight yourself. I suppose there would have to be some kind of system to determine who would get stuck with their back up. Like with heavy weights I always take Brock, but when I do ranked matches against him I always have another guy ready to deal with him.

moojuice

05-22-2009, 11:14 PM

I just might have to sit the first tourney out. Haven't been able to play as much as I would like, and my rating is crap (34 at the moment). It doesn't help that I didn't know how to train with the trainer until like 5 matches in >_<

bg88

05-22-2009, 11:16 PM

I won't be able to play on Saturday. I'm going to be busy working throughout the day. I could play my tournament match on Sunday though.

Forgot to mention that my fighter is now a 59 overall rating.

CAGLeagueSports

05-22-2009, 11:18 PM

Posting this again so it's on this page:

Just wanted to let everybody know that the seeding for the tournament will be based on current overall ratings, so try to post the most recent rating for your fighter, otherwise, we'll have to just go based on what we have. Thanks!

n8rockerasu

05-22-2009, 11:29 PM

The tournament isn't really any big deal. I mean, I honestly have no idea what to expect. My guy is sitting at 44 right now, but I might get tapped out in the first 10 seconds of the first fight. The worst that could happen is you take a loss and you get a low ranked opponent for your next fight. It's not like you're going to get voted off the island here, haha ;)

I do need to know if anybody is FOR SURE out though. The only registered fighter that I'm counting out as of now is BoSoxFan, who mentioned he was having trouble with his 360. Anyone else who doesn't confirm that they are 100% out will be in the bracket, and will be expected to fight or take a loss by forfeit.

Also, fighting on Saturday is not a requirement. Since it's going to take time to report results and progress to the next round, I figure we should have the tournament done in about a week. That's the only timeframe I'm putting on it.

homeland

05-23-2009, 12:12 AM

I'm at 74 right now. still 2 years left. Damn its frustrating as hell when you get the low sparring points.

cgarb84

05-23-2009, 12:46 AM

I'm in year 4 right now and have my guy up to a 54. I'm afraid that I won't even be able to get him to 80 by the time I'm done.

moojuice

05-23-2009, 01:41 AM

Well, calling it a night at 51. Will probably have to start a new career because I screwed so many things up early on that my max ranking will be low.

Vulcan2422

05-23-2009, 01:49 AM

I think my MW Caw will be good. If I do decide to do a MW career. I'm not that bad online actually a couple 94 guys went up against me and WHAT do you know, Right BEFORE they tapp'd out they quit. This game is all about skill, timing, and reading your opponent honestly. I will say this, I ALWAYS Send them a message that says "Next time take your loss like a man." Then of course I always get either one of two messages "Stop fighting like a bitch asshole" or "Your a pussy, Eat these nutz" I guess people just don't understand that NO STAMINA = TAPOUT, Morons.

pimpster4183

05-23-2009, 01:50 AM

My guy is at 47 now and I am for sure in tomorrow, what time is the tournament starting.

CAGLeagueSports

05-23-2009, 02:16 AM

My guy is at 47 now and I am for sure in tomorrow, what time is the tournament starting.

The brackets will be posted sometime Saturday morning. After that, it's on you to contact your opponent and fight. Just remember to post your results here, so the brackets can be updated as soon as possible. As previously stated, we'd like the tournament to be finished within a week.

EDIT - And actually, pimpster, since you're in the WW division, there's currently only one other fighter, so you basically know who your opponent is, haha. Feel free to contact cgarb84 (the linked names in the OP are to send PMs...great way to get in touch) and set up a time for you two to fight. One of you will be our first CAGFC Welterweight Champion! :)

talonthrawn

05-23-2009, 02:30 AM

FYI, my overall is 85 (Yes I finished and lamely didn't get into the HoF even though I defended my belt 10 times w/o losing). I know I contacted you N8 regarding my upcoming two weeks. Anyways I still can fight this week and would like to do so!

Regian

05-23-2009, 03:05 AM

Up to 58 now. However, I'm in year five. I don't think this is going to go very well.

Matt Young

05-23-2009, 03:56 AM

I finished my 18th fight and 8th middleweight (or MIDDLEWEIGHT, as the game says) title defense to improve to 18-0. I'm now a 56 overall, almost 4 years into my career. I thought that was bad, but thanks, Regian, for making me feel better!

MSUHitman

05-23-2009, 04:17 AM

My guy is a 52 right now.

Pure Apathy

05-23-2009, 04:33 AM

I'll be sitting the first tournament out. Right now I'm debating on keeping the game or taking it back. The comments about the online being laggy has me worried since my connection isn't the best.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/479735790.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Matt Young

05-23-2009, 07:01 AM

Ah, I was wondering why you hadn't played. I'd say the single player is worth the price of admission alone. But the online is not really laggy at all. It's less laggy than Smackdown. However, with your connection, I don't know.

CAGLeagueSports

05-23-2009, 12:26 PM

All right, the brackets are now up! You guys are free to fight at any time, just be sure to post the results in here in the correct format (see OP if you don't remember...I added a very useful 3 question "FAQ" at the beginning). Other than that, "LET'S GET IT ON!!!" :)

Also, it seems several people are considering restarting their careers. This is understandable. There are several things in the game that aren't exactly self explanatory and take time to figure out how to utilize properly. Starting over might be beneficial to you in the long run. All I would say is pick the right time to do it. This is what I added to the OP concerning that subject:

If you want to take a break from scheduled matches so you can work on your fighter, or even redo your career, you're free to do so at any time. Your absence might cause a slip in the rankings, but it doesn't hurt your career or your standing with CAGFC.

The way I view it is that you're going into hardcore training. Many fighters in real life take a year off to completely overhaul their game. To me, this would be no different. There's also no reason why you couldn't continue to fight with your "crappier fighter", while you work on a new career, and then just simply replace him when you're ready. Basically, whatever you do behind the scenes is up to you. This was also how I thought you could essentially "switch weight classes" too. Considering the career mode doesn't take an incredible amount of time to go through, I think there are a lot of options here. Just choose wisely. :)

Gillums

05-23-2009, 02:34 PM

Gillums def. Regian | KO | :33 of Round 3

Nice fight man, could have gone either way

Regian

05-23-2009, 02:35 PM

Gillums Jay| Shaun Parent | KO | 0:33 of Round 3

moojuice

05-23-2009, 03:09 PM

Hey Matt, wanna set something up for tommorow?

CAGLeagueSports

05-23-2009, 03:58 PM

Nice job getting that fight in already guys! Your bracket has been updated. :)

moonknight25

05-23-2009, 06:13 PM

I will be online tonight after 9pm, Chris. Send me a PM or xbox live message :)

Vulcan2422

05-23-2009, 07:20 PM

So When do I get to fight? :D Can play tonight sometime.

Pure Apathy

05-23-2009, 07:45 PM

I opened the game so I'll be working on my fighter soon and will post my info.

MikeBike

05-23-2009, 08:56 PM

Michael Klein | Roy Jones Jr | KO | 1:22 of Round 1

Crazy Flash KO

homeland

05-23-2009, 09:01 PM

Michael Klein | Roy Jones Jr | KO | 1:22 of Round 1

Crazy Flash KO

Haha! I love this game. That must have been hilarious.

moonknight25

05-23-2009, 09:57 PM

Cmoore, I'm hopping online to play some UFC and Sacred 2. Send me a message if you hop on :)

seen

05-23-2009, 10:18 PM

Michael Klein | Roy Jones Jr | KO | 1:22 of Round 1

Crazy Flash KO

Essh, it was bad...My fighters are insanely weak, almost laughable in career mode as well.

If anyone wants to help me train to understand this game better I would appreciate it as the manual and tutorials suck.

n8rockerasu

05-23-2009, 10:53 PM

Essh, it was bad...My fighters are insanely weak, almost laughable in career mode as well.

If anyone wants to help me train to understand this game better I would appreciate it as the manual and tutorials suck.

Actually, I think the tutorial is pretty good, but you also have to have an understanding of the sport. From your choice of fighter names, I'm guessing you're into boxing? The one thing I can tell you is that fighters with only a striking background generally do not do well in MMA.

Learning the ground part of the game will do wonders for you. Slugfests might sound like a good idea in theory, but considering the game's propensity for quick knockouts, all it takes is one shot to end your night. Plus, it's good to have a strategy if you are taking big shots. Standing there and trading with your opponent isn't the best idea. Take him down and screw up his gameplan.

Vulcan2422

05-23-2009, 11:06 PM

Yes, learn to find out if he likes to go low or high, if he is hitting high go for the grapple, if he is going low, go for the takedown. I have the game down pretty much and I have come across some really good fighters. It's all about learning there strategy and how they play. If they wanna make you submit or if they just wanna strike like an idiot non stop.

seen

05-23-2009, 11:17 PM

Yes, I am a boxing fan. I know the sport well and enjoy it a lot. As I mentioned in another thread, I did not start watching MMA until last May at Elite XC-Primetime. Since I occasionally watch it, I have a basic understanding of the fighters; not much of the techniques involved.

Either of you up for a match after the fight? maybe point out somethings while playing?

Matt Young

05-23-2009, 11:26 PM

I get jackie Chan in the first round?

Hey Matt, wanna set something up for tommorow?

Crap. I was hoping for tonight after the PPV. I can't promise I can play tomorrow, but if I am unavailable tomorrow (and you are unavailable tonight), would Monday work?

And if Moo can't play tonight, I'd be more than happy to have some exhibition fights with anyone.

n8rockerasu

05-23-2009, 11:38 PM

moojuice

05-24-2009, 12:38 AM

I get jackie Chan in the first round?

Crap. I was hoping for tonight after the PPV. I can't promise I can play tomorrow, but if I am unavailable tomorrow (and you are unavailable tonight), would Monday work?

And if Moo can't play tonight, I'd be more than happy to have some exhibition fights with anyone.

I think I missed you by one minute. Was watching our teams play each other, and when I hopped on, said you were offline for one minute. Monday works though...I should be free all day. If anything comes up, it would be mid-afternoon.

Pure Apathy

05-24-2009, 12:46 AM

And if Moo can't play tonight, I'd be more than happy to have some exhibition fights with anyone.

I'm calling you out! ;)

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 01:47 AM

I think I missed you by one minute. Was watching our teams play each other, and when I hopped on, said you were offline for one minute. Monday works though...I should be free all day. If anything comes up, it would be mid-afternoon.

That's just Xbox.com. I always have a tab open. I haven't been on Live all day. But yeah, Monday is good. As for the basketball game, I watched the first half, then went to watch UFC. I'll be finishing the Lakers game on the DVR.

Devin, you opened your game?

moojuice

05-24-2009, 03:26 AM

Matt Young (win)| Jackie Chan| Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-25, 30-27)

Most uneventful fight ever.

whiptcracker

05-24-2009, 03:29 AM

I sent Pandabot a friend invite, I'll be online sometime tomorrow afternoon.

MSUHitman

05-24-2009, 04:28 AM

Well I'm a 56 overall in my career now as I just won the LH title in year 5.

No one is using the exploit to get their characters into the 90's are they? I really don't want this league to get ruined.

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 06:36 AM

What exploit, Jason? I wasn't aware of any.

Matt Young (win)| Jackie Chan| Unanimous Decision (27-30, 25-30, 27-30)

Most uneventful fight ever.

Yeah, I don't like decisions. I thought our fight was even, and I won unanimously. But I thought I had Nate beaten, and he beat me 29-28 in every round. Go figure. But the numbers you posted should be reversed.

moonknight25

05-24-2009, 10:44 AM

Cmoore, I'll be online on UFC today after 2pm. Hopefully, we can play our match!

Vulcan2422

05-24-2009, 12:04 PM

He is probably talking about just creating a fighter and using him instead of going through Career. We are all honest here so we don't roll like that. Plus I think my one Achievement for winning the belt pretty much puts all to rest lol.

moojuice

05-24-2009, 12:51 PM

What exploit, Jason? I wasn't aware of any.

Yeah, I don't like decisions. I thought our fight was even, and I won unanimously. But I thought I had Nate beaten, and he beat me 29-28 in every round. Go figure. But the numbers you posted should be reversed.
Whups, fixed.

Yeah, it's weird that I didn't even get scored close. But it's probably because I got nailed every time I tried to step in. My offense didn't kick in until the last round, so you probably picked up a lot of points in the first two.

The thing I'm most surprised about though is that apparently kicking someone in the head while they attempt a takedown doesn't affect their attempt >_<

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 01:20 PM

Well, it seemed like you grazed me on most of those kicks due to me diving down for the double leg. I also didn't complete most of the takedowns when you made contact, for what it's worth. I know that you can flash KO someone with a knee as they're attempting a takedown.

whiptcracker

05-24-2009, 01:51 PM

homeland

05-24-2009, 02:20 PM

What exploit? It's not hard to get your character into the 90's if you don't do autograph signings or take fights on short notice. I did that for the first few months and realized it was just taking away time from training. All I did was Spar-Rest-Train-Rest until fight time.

I didn't do that well at some of the sparring, and I wasted some time in the beginning doing the interviews and autographs and I still got a 93.

Ya I came to the same realization as you did, though it took a while. I'm looking at finishing at or around 90. I had some really shitty sparring sessions, like only getting 17 points.

MSUHitman

05-24-2009, 02:40 PM

Well Joe told me last night there was an exploit in the game to where you would go into create a fighter, distribute the points, exit out without saving, then go back in and you're already applied points were still there and you got to go again.

So all I need to do is look on the achievements and see if someone has won the title and then it's cool? Alright, thanks. Just worried how everyone is getting into 80's and 90's and I'm in year 5 at 56.

homeland

05-24-2009, 02:55 PM

i was in the 50's during the 5th year. So you seem on track. Also I'll add u on XBL let me know when u can fight.

edit: Just finished my career at 88 pfft. MSU, ur friends list is full.

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 03:23 PM

What would the achievement for winning the title have to do with any exploit?

moonknight25

05-24-2009, 03:25 PM

Does Cmoore post here? I've been trying to play our game since yesterday.

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 03:30 PM

Apparently, my nickname's the only one not listed in the OP. I'm "The Buzzsaw".

Moonknight- Cmoore hardly posts, period. Did you message him in here or on Live?

whiptcracker

05-24-2009, 03:40 PM

Ya I came to the same realization as you did, though it took a while. I'm looking at finishing at or around 90. I had some really shitty sparring sessions, like only getting 17 points.

I was scheduled to fight Machida and during the first sparring session I gained only 7 points :)

n8rockerasu

05-24-2009, 04:35 PM

Moonknight- Cmoore hardly posts, period. Did you message him in here or on Live?

Yeah, wow...he's been a member for over 4 years and only has 172 posts. That's 43 posts a year, lol. I just want to get through this tournament. After that, if people don't want to fight, I'll drop their asses to the bottom of the rankings. I'm really relishing the idea of not having to give a shit if people flake out. Such a nice change of pace from most leagues.

MSUHitman

05-24-2009, 05:20 PM

i was in the 50's during the 5th year. So you seem on track. Also I'll add u on XBL let me know when u can fight.

edit: Just finished my career at 88 pfft. MSU, ur friends list is full.

There's an opening now.

Matt Young

05-24-2009, 05:35 PM

I fought Anderson Silva again in career and, while he beat me up with the clinch, I reversed his clinch strikes a few times and KO'd him in round 3.

I was worried that I had messed up in the beginning, but my guy seems to be on the right track. 23-0 with 13 consecutive title defenses and an overall ranking of 68 at the beginning of year 5. I should be able to get to a 90 at this rate. But all 23 career victories are via knockout. Button mashing or stick twirling (both super fast) doesn't work at all in career, but often in exhibition. Garr.

moonknight25

05-24-2009, 06:21 PM

Yeah, wow...he's been a member for over 4 years and only has 172 posts. That's 43 posts a year, lol. I just want to get through this tournament. After that, if people don't want to fight, I'll drop their asses to the bottom of the rankings. I'm really relishing the idea of not having to give a shit if people flake out. Such a nice change of pace from most leagues.

I sent him a message on xbox live also and sent him a friend request. Hopefully we can play our match tonight.....

xcoax

05-24-2009, 06:48 PM

Alright, I just finished out my middleweight fighter's career and I'll give this a try I guess. You talked me into it Matt Young. I don't know how active I can be though.

Name: Drew "Big Nasty" Campbell
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 185
Fighting Styles: Kickboxing/Wrestling
Overall Rating: 95

I'm starting up a Light Heavyweight career next since that's apparently where all the action is.

MSUHitman

05-24-2009, 08:24 PM

Jean Claude d. Jason Hart submission (kamura) Rd. 1 3:06

Nice job man. I'm so pissed at myself as I was doing pretty good and then you got into that kamura and I accidentally hit start trying to counter it and the prompt about giving up came on the screen and by the time I cleared it you had it sinched in.

No one to blame but myself, good luck in the finals.

homeland

05-24-2009, 08:27 PM

Jean Claude | Brett Hart | submission | 3:05 Round 1

Good match. I really need to learn how to get out of the clinch, I thought for sure you had me. Thankfully I threw your controller a few bucks to sabotage you.

Straightedge109

05-24-2009, 10:17 PM

Found this place just last night and thought this would be a cool place to play UFC online.

Name: Tyler "The Headhunter" Wilson
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 235 (Heavyweight)
Fighting Styles: Muay Thai, BJJ
Overall Rating: 80

EDIT: Just finished my career, overall is 90 now.

sleepy180

05-24-2009, 10:33 PM

gonna do my match after the orlando cleveland game if my opponent is on.

cgarb84

05-25-2009, 12:37 AM

Vulcan2422

05-25-2009, 01:03 AM

Codi Garber def. Jimi Smith by KO at 3:31 of the 2nd Round.

We had a good fight. I am tired of the lag I've been having though, I've played my first 5 Online fights tonight and had lag in every single one of them. Does everyone else lag that often?

It depends honestly. Some private matches yes but then If I play a ranked one with some random, not at all. Go figure.

Man, I'm so itching to see who I fight against! It's killing me with anticipation!

pimpster4183

05-25-2009, 01:24 AM

Me and Codi had a real good fight, the lag is random for me. But it sucks when it happens.

moonknight25

05-25-2009, 01:46 AM

"Grim Reaper" I.A def. Chris Moore by TKO at 4:25 of the 1st Round.

Great fight man, I almost tapped out.....I barely got out of that

Vulcan, I'll be online later today after 6pm eastern. If you want you can add me since we all will be fighting each other a lot in this division :)

cgarb84

05-25-2009, 10:46 AM

Me and Codi had a real good fight, the lag is random for me. But it sucks when it happens.

Yeah our fight lagged some for me pretty much the entire time, don't know if it was like that for you or not. Also wanted to ask you what your guys ratings is, i have gotten mine up to 75, which is way higher than it says currently in the OP.

Vulcan2422

05-25-2009, 02:43 PM

Added ya Moon. I'll be on and waiting for you! :D