XBLA - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles In Time - Now 800pts :whee: - 8/5

[jdawgg76]

Boy, reading that preview, the game sounds SHORT. It sounds like this may not even be such a good deal even at 800 points. If Ubi had tried to pass off such a short game at 1200 points, it probably wouldn't have sold well even with such high name recognition.

And in answer to the question above, yes, Shadow Complex is 1200 points and a really great deal, it seems.It is just a port of an arcade game which isn't made to be long, just hard enough to get several quarters per play through.

[Thrinn]

:wall:


"...it includes online co-op support for up to four characters to lengthen the experience."I think his intent was to troll more than anything else.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

Is there confirmation on what port it is? The arcade or SNES version...

Must be the arcade one from the ign trailer. Had that weird mud monster boss instead of Slash. Sadly I've played the snes, and arcade version enough to know the differences. :lol:

[epistaxis]

It's so weird that they didn't include the SNES exclusive stuff. Almost as if they chose the arcade version so they'd have less work to do :(

[Corizzle]

Now make it 400 for people that already downloaded the original and Im sold!

This game is different then the TMNT game that was released earlier.

[breakingcustoms]

This game is different then the TMNT game that was released earlier.

yep, 2 different games entirely

[Maskim]

It's so weird that they didn't include the SNES exclusive stuff. Almost as if they chose the arcade version so they'd have less work to do :(

Or, maybe, since it's being released on xbox and ps3, and that content was Nintendo exclusive, maybe they didn't have the rights to use it.

[Thrinn]

Or, maybe, since it's being released on xbox and ps3, and that content was Nintendo exclusive, maybe they didn't have the rights to use it.

I think the person you quoted was right. It was mostly just less work. Would you be more likely to spend 800 for an updated version of the arcade game or 1200 for an updated version of the SNES? It looks like Ubisoft was betting that the lower price would bring in more money in the long run.

[Maskim]

It's possible, but I would think it's just as likely that it's content that's licensed only to Nintendo, still to this day. Back then you didn't see too many timed exclusivity deals. It was Sega or Nintendo. You didn't have the expected lifespan of games, with DLC or anything either, so who would care about the deal saying that content was Nintendo's forever? After a year or two, no one's going to be selling the game anymore anyways, right?

I'm glad they adjusted the price though. My little brother and I are going to be all over this, reliving all those times we'd rent this every time my mom would let us go to Hastings.

[Chairman_LMAO]

Oh man, I was excited to buy this, even at $15. Lower price makes it that much sweeter.

[wEEman33]

Still not worth it unless the original game is somehow unlockable.

The 3D gameplay and dull graphics look like they will totally ruin this classic.

[rbenns2]

This is a must buy now!

[gsr]

i'm in.

[SimaYi]

The price should have been $10 in the first place. Still I wont be picking it up because the game is going to be extremely short, i'll stick to my $3 amazon download of TMNT 89

[Budkin]

Props to Microsoft for actually listening to the complaints and realizing they made a pricing mistake. I'll pick it up now for sure.

[Chairman_LMAO]

Still not worth it unless the original game is somehow unlockable.

The 3D gameplay and dull graphics look like they will totally ruin this classic.

I have to disagree. The gameplay looks pretty much exactly the same as the original, right down to throwing enemies at the screen and wooden planks hitting you in the face in the pirate level. The graphics looks wonderful, although I wish they used something else other than the TMNT character designs. I like them enough, but they're kind of overused. I believe this is the third game that will use them (TMNT, Smash Up, Turtles in Time), and I'm kind of tired of them by now.

[tmly]

I'm still on the fence. I watched some gameplay video and with 4 people playing. It looks like a real cluster****. Screen size seemed too small for all the action going on.

[integralsmatic]

does this game have online coop?

it should. The previous release of TMNT had it. Can see why this shouldnt either.

[p0rn0saur]

I've heard this is only the arcade version. Meaning a lot of levels are going to be left out.

No technodrome.
you mean there will be no fighting Krang? Now $10 seems like a lot.

[epistaxis]

Or, maybe, since it's being released on xbox and ps3, and that content was Nintendo exclusive, maybe they didn't have the rights to use it.

Naw, Konami owned all rights to the game. Ever wonder how rare was able to release Banjo Kazooi (an N64 game made when Nintendo owned Rare) on the Xbox Live Arcade? It's because Rare owned the IP and they were able to get away with emulating their own game.

Even though Ubisoft owns the TMNT videogame license right now, that doesn't stop them from making deals with Konami (They owned the license up until like the late 90s I think) for releasing all these early TMNT titles.

Back on topic, the only thing the Arcade version had over the SNES version was slightly better graphics. Seeing how the graphics were 100% redone, there was really no excuse to use the Arcade version as a base besides cutting the development cycle down and shafting the consumer. Because, lets face it, only us nerds would be able to point out a difference like that 8-)

[Thrinn]

Back on topic, the only thing the Arcade version had over the SNES version was slightly better graphics. Seeing how the graphics were 100% redone, there was really no excuse to use the Arcade version as a base besides cutting the development cycle down and shafting the consumer. Because, lets face it, only us nerds would be able to point out a difference like that 8-) I wonder if they took the same approach that Capcom did with Street Fighter HDR where they used the old code base with a new graphics engine. If that was the case, I can see why they'd choose the arcade version - to allow for 4 player co-op.

[epistaxis]

I don't know the development process for this game, but seeing how they recreated EVERYTHING graphically, it almost looks like they used the Arcade version as a template (i.e. just as a storyboard for how to recreate the game). I can't see a single valid reason for not including the SNES content.

[SEH]

Wow...finding out that this is the arcade version kind of makes me not want to get it anymore. I don't want to spend 800 points for 25 minutes of game. I think I may grab MvC2 now instead.

[emceelokey]

I don't know the development process for this game, but seeing how they recreated EVERYTHING graphically, it almost looks like they used the Arcade version as a template (i.e. just as a storyboard for how to recreate the game). I can't see a single valid reason for not including the SNES content.


Probably because it's a remake of the ARCADE version and not the SNES version.

[epistaxis]

Probably because it's a remake of the ARCADE version and not the SNES version.

They are the same game pretty much. Why would you not want to remake the best version of the game?

[gsr]

http://www.x-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=9&gameid=10&subid=1&artid=1

[Chairman_LMAO]

I guess the main difference, and in my opinion, the reason why they chose the arcade version, is the SNES one is two player, the arcade is four. I'd rather re-create the frenzy of the arcade version with four friends. Believe me, it's much more fun.

[epistaxis]

Assuming they are building around the arcade/snes version, I'm sure adding that functionality wouldn't be difficult.

[eastx]

Gsr linked to a great page (http://www.x-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=9&gameid=10&subid=1&artid=1) comparing the SNES and arcade versions. It looks like the SNES game had an extra stage and a few new bosses, while the arcade game had a lot more voice and animation.
The Technodrome level will be missed, but I don't remember people saying we should skip the first TMNT XBLA game because it lacked the snow and shogun stages from the NES port...

[Budkin]

The only thing that was cooler about the SNES version were the updated bosses. Fighting the Rat King in the sewer and Slash instead of the blob monster thing.

[KingBroly]

The SNES version had a better combat system. The Arcade version was 2 button, while the SNES version was 4 button. You could control how you threw guys into the screen, too. The Arcade version made it happen randomly.

Also, the Technodrome level (aka the boss fight with Shredder) was pretty iconic.

[Chairman_LMAO]

The SNES version had a better combat system. The Arcade version was 2 button, while the SNES version was 4 button. You could control how you threw guys into the screen, too. The Arcade version made it happen randomly.



You're right about the control, but wrong about everything else. In the Arcade version, all the Turtles controlled the same. The SNES version gave them different speeds and abilities.

The control on the SNES version was the same as the arcade. Both used only two buttons.

Throwing Foot Soldiers at the screen was performed by standing exactly next to one and hitting the attack button. It wasn't exact, but it worked. And yes, that was in both versions.

[HeSaveDave]

this game looks like fun i'm gonna get it

[Cleaner7]

Props to Microsoft for actually listening to the complaints and realizing they made a pricing mistake. I'll pick it up now for sure.

EXACTLY! Day 1 purchase now!

[Lost_In_Shadows]

Its like I'm reliving my childhood all over again. I'm still happy about it, and for 800 points I'm sure its worth it. I would have paid 1200 or even 1600 points easy,but that's just me... :-#

[lordwow]

To throw them @ Shredder, didn't you have to hit down at the same time as you threw?

[Viper139]

I think I'm gona have to get this, hopfully I will be able to play with some of you guys online since all my friends dont like this game for some reason.

[Rodimus]

To throw them @ Shredder, didn't you have to hit down at the same time as you threw?

From what I remember in the SNES version you hit a Foot-Solider once and they should buckle over, you then quickly move closer and attack which should result in a throw.

[soccerstud652]

tick tock, lets kick shell

achievements:

The Inflatable Reptilian Hero (5)
Get flattened by any trap.

Seen My Bones? (5)
Get zapped by any laser traps or attacks.

Invincible (5)
Complete a level without having to use a single Power-up.

Turtle Tantrum! (5)
Destroy more than 5 enemies using a destructible object.

Slow as a Turtle (10)
Complete a level in under 3 minutes.

Lean, Green and Mean (20)
Achieve more than 8,000 points.

Toe Be or Not Toe Be? (20)
Avoid all traps in Level 3.

Ice, Ice, Turtle (20)
Avoid Ice Ray traps in Level 8.

Staying Alive (25)
Defeat the Final Boss without dying.

Turtle Power (25)
Complete the game in Story Mode. (Normal difficulty onwards).

I Will Survive (30)
Complete a Survival Mode game. (Normal difficulty onwards)

Heroes in a Half Shell (30)
Complete the game with all 4 Turtles.

[LinkinPrime]

All seem pretty attainable.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

tick tock, lets kick shell

achievements:

The Inflatable Reptilian Hero (5)
Get flattened by any trap.

Seen My Bones? (5)
Get zapped by any laser traps or attacks.

Invincible (5)
Complete a level without having to use a single Power-up.

Turtle Tantrum! (5)
Destroy more than 5 enemies using a destructible object.

Slow as a Turtle (10)
Complete a level in under 3 minutes.

Lean, Green and Mean (20)
Achieve more than 8,000 points.

Toe Be or Not Toe Be? (20)
Avoid all traps in Level 3.

Ice, Ice, Turtle (20)
Avoid Ice Ray traps in Level 8.

Staying Alive (25)
Defeat the Final Boss without dying.

Turtle Power (25)
Complete the game in Story Mode. (Normal difficulty onwards).

I Will Survive (30)
Complete a Survival Mode game. (Normal difficulty onwards)

Heroes in a Half Shell (30)
Complete the game with all 4 Turtles.


Nice. One day left until Turtles.:applause:

[KingBroly]

It should be Lean, Mean and Green. I only see a couple of troublesome achievements: I Will Survive, Staying Alive and Slow as a Turtle (unless the final boss is its own level).

[soccerstud652]

It should be Lean, Mean and Green. I only see a couple of troublesome achievements: I Will Survive, Staying Alive and Slow as a Turtle (unless the final boss is its own level).

Hopefully you can choose who you party up with to make life easier.

[Ink.So.Well.]

I'm so looking forward to copping this tomorrow. Co-Op is going to be b-a-n-a-n-a-s. ^_^

[QiG]

Hopefully you can choose who you party up with to make life easier.

I believe this will be an xbox firmware feature soon if not already. I saw it mentioned in the thread about previewing the next version.

[KingBroly]

That's not what he means. For the original TMNT Arcade on XBLA, to get achievements, you have to do a public game. It's not so hard now, but originally when it was released it must've been hard to get certain achievements.

[Azumangaman]

Can't wait to grab this tomorrow!

[seanr1221]

Yup, I think I'll wake up a little extra early to try it before work :]

[IvanHood]

Anybody want to set up a time tomorrow night to play through it start to finish? I will be free pretty much any time after 8:00 EDT, and it would be fun to get a group of four together.

[Ink.So.Well.]

I'm definitely down for that tomorrow. I'm buying it first thing in the morning.

[soccerstud652]

I'm in for tomorrow.

[HydroX]

I'm in. Dibs on Raph.

[KingBroly]

I'm in at 5am. Michaelangelo or bust.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Ugh... you guys and your damn reserved characters. Fine. I got dibs on Don because all the fly chicks dig purple.

[IvanHood]

Go Leo! Downloading now, hoping to get an hour or so in before work.

[archibishopthedoge]

lol you'll probably beat it in an hour

They are so lucky they dropped the price. Hell, they shoulda dropped it to 400.

This is not speaking on the quality of the game. Its great looking and plays just like its predecessor, but DAMN... IT IS SO SHORT!

I went and did an XBox Live game and with the same group, we flew through the entire game and beat it literally, on my first go through with it (time between my last post + 15 minutes to the time of this post). This was by no means intentional, but wow.

It is incredibly short (8 boards + final battle with Shredder).

In fairness, I believe the guy who set up the game had it on normal, but still, it's not a very deep experience even with the additional "survival" mode.

Very easy achievements too!

[aheineken]

Anybody want to set up a time tomorrow night to play through it start to finish? I will be free pretty much any time after 8:00 EDT, and it would be fun to get a group of four together.

I'll be on about the same time. Feel free to message me.

[KingBroly]

I beat the game in 15 minutes on Easy. I'm going through on Normal with Donatello right now (taking a break). Co-op on easy is too easy, even with a lot of chaos going on. Level 3 is a mess IMO. Also, they put in double jumping for some stupid reason. What do I like about the game? The 3d combat. It works pretty well, although it'd probably work better with a Dualshock.

What do I not like about the game? The scrolling. This is pretty bad. The final boss fight took me 5 minutes because he kept going off-screen and the game didn't scroll until I basically got to the edge of the screen (Where he was to greet me with one of his lovely attacks). Also, online the game kinda, sort pseudo-scrolls with the host. Once again, level 3, too much crap going on, if the host is at the front, and you're at the back, spike fence is nailing ya. Also in co-op, you cannot quit during a level, only after a level.

Survival Mode on Co-op is something I wanna do for the Achievement. It seems like the only way. Why it's Normal or higher is beyond me because they shouldn't have put Easy mode on there for it.

[IvanHood]

Just ran through single player on Normal. I had a good time, looking forward to trying multiplayer tonight. Seems like it's easily worth 800 points.

[seanr1221]

The game is definitely worth 800 points, it's great.

[guyver2077]

downloading superslow for me

[Monsta Mack]

I wish they left the original graphics and had the extra level. Those are my main two complaints.

Also with four people on the screen in 3d I have to keep hitting the left trigger to get the ! to appear over my heard to know where the fuck I am.

I love TMNT but I'm on the fence myself now if this was even worth 800 pts and might have went emo if I did actually pay 1200 for this. I actually like the original TMNT better so far.

[flameofdoom666]

I mildly liked it on the SNES.... is it worth it? I know a few people getting it, so for co-op, is it worth it?

[Monsta Mack]

Also everyone and their mom is complaining about the music on Gamefaqs. Apparently the music was very epic on the SNES, and in the remake not so much (I didn't really notice the music much in this remake, so I guess it would be average here).

@flameofdoom666 If you downloaded the TMNT 1989 Arcade and liked It then you'll like this to, and this game is equally short to. Online co-op wasn't laggy but there was an issue with the scrolling where my team got stuck ahead somehow and I was behind them so they died/got hurt (hard to explain). Gets a bit chaotic on the screen with four people.

[deszaras]

I grabbed it immediately this morning and love it. After playing it for a while, I can see that I'd be pissed if they kept it at 1200 pts. The graphics are real nice but not an overhaul like 1942: Joint Strike was. Yea, it's short but these old arcade sidescrollers were never long, they were always about appeal and replay-ability and that's what this has, especially if you are a TMNT fan. It was well worth 800 pts for me.

[BustaUppa]

Also everyone and their mom is complaining about the music on Gamefaqs. Apparently the music was very epic on the SNES, and in the remake not so much (I didn't really notice the music much in this remake, so I guess it would be average here).Damn, weren't early previews claiming that the sound was lifted directly from the arcade version? Oh well.

[soccerstud652]

Definitely worth the 800 MS points.

[HydroX]

I love the game and all, and I love the Turtles, but this should've been 400 points. Especially with the music being different. Haha. The music was part of the experience and it's just not the same.

[BustaUppa]

I love the game and all, and I love the Turtles, but this should've been 400 points. Especially with the music being different. Haha. The music was part of the experience and it's just not the same."The experience" you speak of is what should have been the main selling point, IMO. For me, that all-important "nostalgia factor" is where much of the value lies in a game like this... and you lose that when the graphics AND sound are all changed.

I would have preferred an all-or-nothing approach here... either give us a raw 'n dirty port for 400 pts, like TMNT 1989, or devote all these new gfx and sound resources to a completely fresh, brand new TMNT beat-'em-game. I would have purchased either one of those.

[Monsta Mack]

I'm just glad it wasn't 1200 points otherwise I would have pulled a emo.

[GuilewasNK]

I'll be getting this this evening.

[spoo]

I'm out of MS points, does anyone know of a place that has them on sale?

[Regian]

Bought it as soon as I woke up this morning. Having fun with it thus far. I'd certainly like to give the online co-op a shot later.

[Sito]

Dammit XBLA, You are taking lots of my monies

[sublime90]

i downloaded the demo and im not really sold. i forgot how repetitive the combat is (only like 3 attacks) not so sure i want to spend my money on this yet, still playing splosion man but i have to say it looks awesome graphic wise

[Ink.So.Well.]

Currently playing it on Normal and I agree with Hydro. Definitely not worth 800 and just not the same as porting the SNES version which they should have just done then added co-op and achievements. I'm hoping co-op with a few friends will help salvage my disappointment. ;'(

[decrot]

yea this game kinda sucks. when you first heard this game you think "nostalgia". But with different graphics, music, and even a change in gameplay (you can hit 360 degrees, wth) its a completely different game. So without the nostalgia factor, it becomes a mindless beat em up w/ the stigma of being one of those horrible license games that are coming out recently.

[Poor2More]

yea this game kinda sucks. when you first heard this game you think "nostalgia". But with different graphics, music, and even a change in gameplay (you can hit 360 degrees, wth) its a completely different game. So without the nostalgia factor, it becomes a mindless beat em up w/ the stigma of being one of those horrible license games that are coming out recently.

well damn, I was really hoping to get to use some of my 18,500 MS points, guess I will download anyways, points were free anyways, at least good for Co-op

[Lost_In_Shadows]

yea this game kinda sucks. when you first heard this game you think "nostalgia". But with different graphics, music, and even a change in gameplay (you can hit 360 degrees, wth) its a completely different game. So without the nostalgia factor, it becomes a mindless beat em up w/ the stigma of being one of those horrible license games that are coming out recently.

I sort of feel the same way in one way. I was excited about it before it was out. I knew it wouldn't be amazing or anything. I didn't think it would be as bad as it is either. I love TMNT maybe a little to much. Of course I knew the original would be way better. I would say the remake is just a average game or slightly below. I still feel it was worth 800 points since I'm a turtles fan.

[fatez]

cowabunga!

[KaneRobot]

Most importantly, does it play "Pizza Power" on the title screen like the arcade game did?

[KingBroly]

A remixed version, yes.

[flameofdoom666]

well damn, I was really hoping to get to use some of my 18,500 MS points, guess I will download anyways, points were free anyways, at least good for Co-op

How do you have so many 'free' points?

[seanr1221]

IGN gave it a pretty meh review.

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/101/1010334p1.html

5.9

[hypertails02]

IGN gave it a pretty meh review.

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/101/1010334p1.html

5.9
But did you guys actually read the review (not just look at the number)?

It's like the IGN reviewer never played the original Turtles in Time, or was not informed on the very simple concept the game is about.

It's typical IGN...hype-hype-hype every game with previews/news/media, give high scores to big-budget games, give mediocre/low scores to lower-budget games.

[BustaUppa]

But did you guys actually read the review (not just look at the number)?

It's like the IGN reviewer never played the original Turtles in Time, or was not informed on the very simple concept the game is about.

It's typical IGN...hype-hype-hype every game with previews/news/media, give high scores to big-budget games, give mediocre/low scores to lower-budget games.I dunno, I consider myself pretty "informed" when it comes to Turtles In Time and I pretty much agree with the IGN review :/
In a nutshell, we would have been better off with a faithful port rather than an "enhanced" one. If you're going for nostalgia, you might as well go all the way! The fresh coat of paint just makes the old-school gameplay limitations stand out more.

I really wish there was a commercially available version of this that just left the game alone!!! :-(

[archibishopthedoge]

The IGN review is dead on.

I got it first thing this morning and I cannot see myself going back to it EVER once I nab the achievements (2 left!). It's a really mind-numbing game after a while. The nostalgia factor is nice, but you get past the new paint job and its something to avoid.

If you are on the fence at all, just wait for a deal on it. I am a Turtles fan, as well as a hack and slash fan, but this is just stupid.

They dropped the price for good reason.

[NJMane]

IGN's review contradict some of the other reviews on the market which gave the game in the 8's. Its kinda like Wii Sports Resort. Some reviews like the game and others thought it was just mediocre. Seems the case here. I am buying all the summer games anyway (plus I grew up on TMNT) so if I hate it I will chalk it up as my free game :) . (Plus for the price I paid for my points each of the 5 games of summer cost me $6.)

[CouRageouS]

I thought the demo was pretty decent. The fun of this has always been in playing it with 4 players. Does each player need a profile to play it?

[hypertails02]

I do agree with the graphic change how it removes much of the brightness/cartoony-ness of the previous game, that's understandable.

However, the entire point of the game is that you run right, mash attack, and jump once in awhile. If Ubisoft replicated the formula well (which is what the IGN review seemed to explain) then why such a low review score? From the SNES version I played, it still included cheap kills and unavoidable traps, but that's part of the game! I had some frustration, but playing with a friend we were determined to finish the game no matter how many times we died.

Sorry I am a huge fan of the game mainly because I played it throughout my childhood and was one of the games that threw me into enjoying video games with friends.

[seanr1221]

If they had just ported the arcade game and charged the same, I wonder if it would be getting higher scores.

[soccerstud652]

I'd like to see an update with the original graphics...

I'd even pay for the extra Technodrome level and Slash/Rat King/Bebob and Rocksteady bosses.

(At the end of level 3, which is a bonus level in the SNES version, the Technodrome comes up from the Earth after the Turtles defeat Rat King. There is a two part level in the Technodrome and then the Turtles face Shredder/Tank/Tokka and Rahzar and then are sent back to the age of the dinosaurs.)

[Poor2More]

How do you have so many 'free' points?

Pontiac Xbl point giveaway (19,000 or so from that)
Sons of Anarchy Point Giveaway (6,000-7,000 points)

[BustaUppa]

If they had just ported the arcade game and charged the same, I wonder if it would be getting higher scores.I have a feeling it would actually get lower scores from mainstream gaming websites, but probably a more positive response among fans of the original game, oddly enough (or a more positive response from ME, at least :-P).

I'd like to see an update with the original graphics...

I'd even pay for the extra Technodrome level and Slash/Rat King/Bebob and Rocksteady bosses.

(At the end of level 3, which is a bonus level in the SNES version, the Technodrome comes up from the Earth after the Turtles defeat Rat King. There is a two part level in the Technodrome and then the Turtles face Shredder/Tank/Tokka and Rahzar and then are sent back to the age of the dinosaurs.)One thing they should have done, if they were so intent on new graphics and everything, would be to have made an "ultimate" version of the game that included all the elements of both the arcade and SNES versions. A re-coded "best of both worlds" version of Turtles In Time would be a worthwhile investment, even with questionably "enhanced" graphics!

[vlv723]

As long as the update/DLC is free or reasonably priced, I'll get it.

IGN- Did Gamespot's harsh reviewers migrated to IGN? Geez, that was a horribad review considering he never played the arcade/SNES version.

[soccerstud652]

Also, if anyone is looking for the Survival achievement, I am looking for a serious party to play that with. Add me on XBL or PM me!

[KingBroly]

I just ran into a problem. A friend invited me to a game, but had to back out, so it gave me an Error message, and the game crashed my system.

[Banjora]

Just got done with my first play through. While I agree with previous posters comments about wishing they included the classic version with it, for 800 points I'm having fun and enjoying it. At 1200 I can honestly say I would have been disappointed.

[HydroX]

I'm on right now if anyone wants to make a run through. I am appearing offline, but just send me a friend request or a game request and I'll join as long as I'm not in another one with other CAGs.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I'm on right now if anyone wants to make a run through. I am appearing offline, but just send me a friend request or a game request and I'll join as long as I'm not in another one with other CAGs.

I'll play with you or some cags if anyone wants. I'm wondering how the online is. I'm getting on now. xD

[KingBroly]

And once again, the game crashes while playing online. This time, trying to load a level. Super.

[decrot]

And once again, the game crashes while playing online. This time, trying to load a level. Super.
try clearing your cache. if that doesn't work delete the game and redownload it.

[saunderscowie]

Tried the demo didn't like it. Not that I was going to buy it anyway.

[Strider Turbulence]

This is a terrible remake. The graphics, music, sound fx, gameplay (the hit detection is seriously busted, there were times I clearly struck at the air and foot soliders were being affected by it) are all inferior to the original arcade version.

[KaneRobot]

a remixed version, yes.

Then NO SALE.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

And once again, the game crashes while playing online. This time, trying to load a level. Super.

Didn't get to play with any cags,but I played with some random people on live. We beat the game very quickly, and had no problems. Online is the where the game is at. Already got 8 out of the 12 cheesements, and I've only beat it twice. :)

[Brak]

Is this a Community Game?

[hypertails02]

So it has online issues? That kinda sucks. Other than connection issues, is there any serious lag?

I'll need to get the demo, but I won't have Internet until I move back to college in 2 weeks. :-(
TMNT and MvC2 will be my first xbox live purchases! :D

[HydroX]

My buddy and I had an issue with Tokka and Rahzar not spawning at the end of Skull and Crossbones. Someone had quit out on us just prior to getting there, so we assumed that may have triggered the problem.

We had to create a new game and start all over again. Bleh.

[KingBroly]

Easy way to beat Tokka and Razar: Leonardo + Y = Instant Knocking them down

I got up to Super Krang on Survival before I died. He was one hit away from dying (I can be backed up on this by a CAG) but I kept attacking instead of backing away.

[Vulcan2422]

This is a terrible remake. The graphics, music, sound fx, gameplay (the hit detection is seriously busted, there were times I clearly struck at the air and foot soliders were being affected by it) are all inferior to the original arcade version.

I am actually with you on this. I agree with ya. How ever I thought the SNES was great. But can't beat four players on the Arcade version. This is one of the games I should have tried the demo first then just buying honestly. I am really disappointed honestly.

[Brak]

My childhood is shat on once again.

[Ma12kez]

Played through the demo while trying out all 4 turtles, but was not impressed. Turtles in Time was my all-time favorite SNES game next to Chrono Trigger and I replayed this game more times than I can remember, but for some reason the game just feels like all the lame TMNT games that were released based on the 2003 television series remake. The gameplay feels a bit different, and I still need to figure out how to throw on command, or is it random? Also, I honestly can't stand the new graphics and character designs of the turtles.

Either way, I'm still debating whether or not to get it, it just disappoints me that they could not have added the original as bonus content.

[KaneRobot]

Played demo. It's ok, but inferior to the original arcade version. I'm not paying 800 points for it. Call me when it's the "33% off weekly deal" on XBL.

[Ink.So.Well.]

Ugh. I really should have tried the damn demo but my childhood nostalgia got the better of me. Never again. Anyway if people are still trying to squad up then send me an FR. I want to get these achievements done asap so I can forget this remake ever existed.

[IvanHood]

Geist, I am still up for playing tonight whenever you're on. That applies to anyone else on the thread, too--just send me a FR.

[QiG]

Fuckin' Turtlesaurusrex nailed me for 3 deaths... cheap ass mofo. Only other point in the game I had trouble was facing Shredder. Not too bad.. I don't know what the people are smoking that said they ran through it in 15 minutes alone but it took me a good 50 minutes load to credits.

[soccerstud652]

Geist, I am still up for playing tonight whenever you're on. That applies to anyone else on the thread, too--just send me a FR.

Ivan, FR sent. Need some survival partners that won't drop out.

[IvanHood]

Ivan, FR sent. Need some survival partners that won't drop out.

Cool, I confirmed you. Seems like it shouldn't be too tough with four people who stay for the whole game.

[Ink.So.Well.]

I'm down for tonight. Just let me know what time you guys want to play. I'm Eastern Standard.

[Reimu]

Good luck doing survival, took me forever to get it.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

Cool, I confirmed you. Seems like it shouldn't be too tough with four people who stay for the whole game.

I can't believe I finished the whole game today. It wasn't even cags just random people on xbox live, and we beat it. Its pretty fun with co-op.

[HydroX]

I'm on the phone right now but I'll be off shortly .. then I'll be able to TMNT it up without any interruptions.

[Ink.So.Well.]

I'm on right now but hidden/offline so feel free to send me a request when y'all are ready.

[grundy]

Anyone having trouble downloading the trial game of TMNT? It gets to 99% and then decides it doesn't want to finish that 1% by saying, "can't download..." I've tried several times to download it again, but to no avail

[BlueSwim]

Anyone having trouble downloading the trial game of TMNT? It gets to 99% and then decides it doesn't want to finish that 1% by saying, "can't download..." I've tried several times to download it again, but to no availShipwreck mentioned that he was having the same problem on his Twitter. It's not just you.

[NJMane]

I am down to play survival mode tonight if anyone is still up for it (or are looking for a 4th). My GamerTag is NJMane.

EDIT: I am on now if anyone wants to play survival mode. Just shoot me a friend request.

[n8rockerasu]

Well, I was strongly considering picking this up. But after reading so many disappointed impressions, and playing the demo, I think I'll pass. I also remembered that I actually still have this game on SNES, so if I really need a fix, I'll just dig that out of the closet.

It's really too bad Ubisoft didn't do more (or maybe less?) with this game. They definitely should have followed the example set by SFIIHDRemix and Monkey Island, by including the original game as well...especially if they thought they could charge 1200 points for it.

[NJMane]

soccerstud652, IvanHood and Ink.So.Well I sent you all FR to play if you are available.

My GT is NJMane

[sleepydumbdude]

I went on my lunch break to a friends to coop with him. I am so glad I didn't buy it. I wish they would have just released the aracde version without messing with it.

[arcadegamer]

just get it and want to play anyone

[mtxbass1]

Played demo. It's ok, but inferior to the original arcade version. I'm not paying 800 points for it. Call me when it's the "33% off weekly deal" on XBL.

Same here. I'm going through the demo right now and it's vastly inferior.

[KingBroly]

I definitely like the game, and while not as good as the SNES version, it does have a couple of high points like the 3d combat and the character design. The redesign of the levels are neat too, except for them being too small and it's very hard to see much of anything in Neon Night Riders. Worth the 800 points? Sure. Better than Castle Crashers? HELL NO! When I beat Story Mode with Leo and Raph (Raph first, because it might've counted me beating Survival Mode with Leo) I'm pretty sure I'll be done after this week. I'll play a couple of online games, but it'll be back to Dead Space and Gears 2 for me.

For me, the game gets a 7 to 7.5. The online works well, albeit a bit strange at times (scrolling issues and you'll be on top of other characters sometimes)

BTW, for anyone wondering how to beat Survival Mode it's simple.
Leonardo
Skull & Crossbones boss: Y after they jump knocks them back down immediately
Leatherhead (Hatless): Hold on the pizza, 3 hits, run away unless he hits you, then 3 again, jump over charges (does 3 times mostly)
Super Krang: Circle until he attacks then hit 3 times, then circle again (stay out of his plane)
Krang: Wait for him to start sending robots at you, and just spam Y (I barely did this because his bubbles deal about 3/4 of a bar of damage)
Shredder: Wait for his attack, then hit him 2-3 times, then keep away until he does that again. When he starts using his OHKO attack, just wait for him to come down at his side, then hit him a couple of times. Once you get him to do this attack, it's pretty much over.

[MadChedar0]

This is looking like a big disappointment. Darn.

[bhk]

I've got this. add me.

[Samus]

Well, with the Summer of Arcade deal (buy all summer of arcade games, get 800 points free), I'll suck it up and pick this up for the 800 point bonus so long as I decide I want Trials HD (I think I do).

[FurryCurry]

OK good. Then I'm not crazy for thinking that this is sucky.

The sound fx for one. Sheesh. I checked the options to see if it was turned up all the way and they are but they lack punch. No pun intended. Music isn't as good as the original and it too sounds muted. And since the sound fx lacks punch you never feel like you are doing any damage. I'm expecting to see some more energetic effects with the damage being dealt. Feel the controller rumble when I get knocked into a wall or when the wrecking ball drops. I noticed that you can't jump after another jump until your turtle replaces his feet properly so you have to wait to jump again. Very lame. I figured they would have expanded the controls some more. Like have light (x) and special (y) attacks, a throw button (b), jump (a), and the locate button (L). The game looks so plain despite having really clean and pretty graphics. I don't like how you can attack diagonally. It should be left and right ONLY.

Just so weak. Did they not learn anything from all the other remakes on XBLA?

[KingBroly]

Hey guess what? You can attack Up and Down as well.

The major gripe I have about the game is the recovery time. You get knocked down in this game A LOT, and your recovery time is usually 3-4 seconds. Against a boss (Leatherhead/Mudman) you can get absolutely destroyed because they crowd you.

But still, a good game, not a great game.

[FurryCurry]

Hey guess what? You can attack Up and Down as well.

The major gripe I have about the game is the recovery time. You get knocked down in this game A LOT, and your recovery time is usually 3-4 seconds. Against a boss (Leatherhead/Mudman) you can get absolutely destroyed because they crowd you.

But still, a good game, not a great game.

I think you missed my point. In side scrolling brawlers it's better to be only be able to attack either left or right. If the camera angle followed the shell of the character then attacking in all directions would be suitable and would feel more natural.

I'm sorry. I don't even think this game is good. I'd rather play the original and even then I'd rather play the best gat damned 2d brawler ever.


STREETS OF RAGE 2

[mac101010]

They should've let the more experienced Ubisoft Studios (i.e. Montreal or Shanghai) handle this.

[KingBroly]

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather play the SNES version myself (because it has more content, the game mechanics are better and the music is better) but the game is worth the price of 800 points. It sure as hell isn't worth 1200.

The 3D combat is a nice addition, and I know what your concern is, but I think it's good, and I think it would make some beat-em-ups better.

EDIT: Um...Shanghai are the ones behind this.

[Trakan]

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather play the SNES version myself (because it has more content, the game mechanics are better and the music is better) but the game is worth the price of 800 points. It sure as hell isn't worth 1200.

The 3D combat is a nice addition, and I know what your concern is, but I think it's good, and I think it would make some beat-em-ups better.

EDIT: Um...Shanghai are the ones behind this.

It's not worth $10 and it's by the Ubisoft Singapore team.

[ihadFG]

I like the game enough so far that I think its worth the 800 points. 1200 would have been too much, but the game is still pretty good. It's definitely best with a group of 4 people with mics.

[Friend of Sonic]

Glad I didn't do a blind buy. The demo didn't do it for me. They would have truly been out of their minds to try and charge 15 bucks for this.

[GodlyOne]

Was confused as to why it's named Turtles in Time RS in the games list but it makes sense to avoid abbreviating it to TMNT: TIT. Gotta wait till I get some more goddamn points to try out the game myself.

[soccerstud652]

I definitely like the game, and while not as good as the SNES version, it does have a couple of high points like the 3d combat and the character design. The redesign of the levels are neat too, except for them being too small and it's very hard to see much of anything in Neon Night Riders. Worth the 800 points? Sure. Better than Castle Crashers? HELL NO! When I beat Story Mode with Leo and Raph (Raph first, because it might've counted me beating Survival Mode with Leo) I'm pretty sure I'll be done after this week. I'll play a couple of online games, but it'll be back to Dead Space and Gears 2 for me.

For me, the game gets a 7 to 7.5. The online works well, albeit a bit strange at times (scrolling issues and you'll be on top of other characters sometimes)

BTW, for anyone wondering how to beat Survival Mode it's simple.
Leonardo
Skull & Crossbones boss: Y after they jump knocks them back down immediately
Leatherhead (Hatless): Hold on the pizza, 3 hits, run away unless he hits you, then 3 again, jump over charges (does 3 times mostly)
Super Krang: Circle until he attacks then hit 3 times, then circle again (stay out of his plane)
Krang: Wait for him to start sending robots at you, and just spam Y (I barely did this because his bubbles deal about 3/4 of a bar of damage)
Shredder: Wait for his attack, then hit him 2-3 times, then keep away until he does that again. When he starts using his OHKO attack, just wait for him to come down at his side, then hit him a couple of times. Once you get him to do this attack, it's pretty much over.

I couldn't agree any more.

Side note: Broly, are you down for some survival tomorrow? I am having trouble with some of the bosses, I could use the extra manpower to back me up as I go through it.

[KingBroly]

Uh...maybe. I think getting the Survival achievement is best done by one's self, though. The only bosses I have trouble now with is Krang and Leatherhead. The former because the depth perception is weird there, and the latter because there's just no good way to attack him and if you get stunned, you're going to take a good amount of damage.

Also, Shanghai, Singapore, whatever. It doesn't make a difference to me. It's still Ubisoft, and there's still a lot of screen tearing in this game.

[integralsmatic]

I tried the demo and its unbearable for me. I downloaded it after watching the review on Gametrailers and i have to agree with them except for their beat em up comments. I like monotonous beat em up as long as the asthetics are good. I just felt like this game didn't get the care like the original had from Konami. I thought Ubisoft just took everything visually and made it for up to date and then messed up the fighting in this game. I felt like i had no control of throwing guys to the screen or slamming them unlike the SNES version..where i can chuck guys at the screen all day....Also to nitpick a little more..why does it when you hit foot soldiers..it sound like your squeezing a wet sponge. Is it so hard to re-release the arcade version again for 400 points instead of this game.

[QiG]

Broly... what's your advice on Mudman? I can't seem to avoid him when he collapses and follows me around even while double jumping.

[benjamouth]

I bought and played through this last night, it's fun to play through but I think I would have preferred just a straight conversion of the Arcade or Snes versions.

It's ok at $10 but I'd have been pissed if I'd paid $15 for it.

[ihadFG]

Broly... what's your advice on Mudman? I can't seem to avoid him when he collapses and follows me around even while double jumping.

I know I'm not Broly, but I found the best way is to run around the outer edges of the screen.

[flameofdoom666]

Where the fuck is the Tecnodrome level?

I want my fucken money back! They call it a remake and cut a pivotal level out? Bullshit.

[robin2099]

Where the fuck is the Tecnodrome level?

I want my fucken money back! They call it a remake and cut a pivotal level out? Bullshit.

You mean the Technodrome level that was not in the Arcade game, which this is a remake of?

[Brak]

After playing it, I really, really can't believe they were originally going to charge 1200 for this.

[seanr1221]

Yea, 15.00 would have been too much.

But what were people expecting from this game? It's the original with new graphics/music. Did they promise more or something?

[Brak]

I was expecting something that didn't suck.

[flameofdoom666]

You mean the Technodrome level that was not in the Arcade game, which this is a remake of?

I assumed the SNES and Arcade version were the same....

I am hugely disappointed, and I feel overcharged at 800 points.

[Monsta Mack]

Well they took your money and ran and can probably care less now.

If another TMNT beat em up comes out show your support - by not supporting them.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I assumed the SNES and Arcade version were the same....

I am hugely disappointed, and I feel overcharged at 800 points.

They have several differences. Rat King isn't in the Sewer on the arcade version. In that one level its Mudman instead of Slash as the boss, and also it doesn't have that one stage. I kind of thought it was lame at first,but after playing it 3 times I enjoy it. Of course it could have been better,but it really isn't that bad. :)

[aheineken]

I'm also in with the group of dissappointed turtle fans. Maybe it's because of the outdated gameplay, but I just can't seem to find the excitement that I had for the game as a kid when I would stay up all night playing it on SNES.

I played through it once last night, and I don't really care to play it again any time soon. At least, it'll be there for me anytime I want to take out some frustration on the foot.

[Megaten]

Meh, I kinda knew this wasn't going to be as fun as I had hoped/imagined it was from back as a kid...nostalgia's a bitch like that. That being said, it's still a decent beat-em-up. Had it been 15...I mean then it'd be a pretty fair comparison to point at Castle Crashers which just makes this look silly. But playing online was fun, and I guess it being an easy 200/200 cheevies is a plus, kinda?

[KingBroly]

I know I'm not Broly, but I found the best way is to run around the outer edges of the screen.

That's what I did. Sometimes he gets you, though.

[rapsodist]

I tried the demo. From what I played, this remake completely lacks the character and spirit of the original game. This feels like a misguided fan project. Simply releasing the original (whether arcade or SNES) would have been better.

[ananag112]

I was never a fan of the TMNT games back in the day (even though I was a huge TMNT fan). I wish Capcom remakes the Final Fight games like this.

[GuilewasNK]

I assumed the SNES and Arcade version were the same....

I am hugely disappointed, and I feel overcharged at 800 points.


You really feel $10 is an overcharge?

[decrot]

Yea, 15.00 would have been too much.

But what were people expecting from this game? It's the original with new graphics/music. Did they promise more or something?
this is nothing like the original. if it were just an update in graphics, then i might be able to handle it, though i prefer the original. but they changed the mechanics and this game just stinks.


i dunno about you guys but does the characters seem to take up too much real estate on the screen? its hard for me to follow my own characters with so many foot soldiers on screen. also jumping seems weird to me. is it me or does the characters snap back in mid air if you hit something, like other turtles?

[Rodimus]

I bought and played through this last night, it's fun to play through but I think I would have preferred just a straight conversion of the Arcade or Snes versions.

I was thinking the same thing. I like this and $10 is a good price but I perfer the SNES version. I didn't play the Arcade version too much so I was dissapointed not to see Bebop, Rocksteady & Slash.

[flameofdoom666]

You really feel $10 is an overcharge?

Absolutely. I have had more games for 400 Microsoft Points ($5.00) that are more fun, have more content, and are not letdowns. One that comes to mind is JetPack Refuelled, which is also a remake. It includes the original as well.

[LegendK7ll3r]

Wow, so many people complaining. How many of you actually played past the demo, and or played with an actual person? This is a steal for $10, and is damn fun to play with friends.

[joshthegreat69]

How long does this game typically last? The gameplay from the demo certainly wasn't that astounding but it was passable. I assumed it wouldn't be too exciting. But if the replay is good, it's worth the buy.

[QiG]

I don't disagree that a port of the original may or may not have been better, but 800pts was fair. It's an arcade based game, it was never meant to be long, and it was meant to be played co-op.

Where's the love for the Manhattan Project?

[Rodimus]

How long does this game typically last? The gameplay from the demo certainly wasn't that astounding but it was passable. I assumed it wouldn't be too exciting. But if the replay is good, it's worth the buy.

Probably about 45 minutes to beat.

[Guerrilla]

It's decent, but the original was much better. Glad they dropped it from 1200 to 800.

[integralsmatic]

Wow, so many people complaining. How many of you actually played past the demo, and or played with an actual person? This is a steal for $10, and is damn fun to play with friends.

Well if this is your taste than fine..but just look at it from a retro gamer's perspective. This game was phenomenal when it was released on the SNES and it was and still is one of the most complete beat em ups made. When you release an updated version of a great game, you would expect it to be just as good and in fact better...but it isn't. All they did was update the graphics, take out the combos, and make everything sound like a wet sponge....while somehow a lowly 16-bit cart still did it better. I can't see why they can release an arcade port and make it 4 player. That would still be fun but yet it holds the nostalgia factor. This game is just a hollow shell of what it's supposed to be. As a retro gamer i hated it. I felt like Ubisoft did this in a half hour and decided not to beta test it and find out how much it really doesnt feel like an updated arcade port.

[monstermog]

I dunno, I liked the original game and am also enjoying this version. I'm playing it solo and am finding the higher difficulties to be a fun challenge.

[KingBroly]

I made a video strategy for fighting the final boss if anyone wants to see it. OMG SPOLIARZ!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB2qUMPHL8s

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.giantbomb.com/turtles-in-time-credit-roll/17-1155/

:lol:

[IceBlueShoes]

Tried out the demo and I liked it.
I'll pick this up once I get some MS Points from the US.
We get killed here in Canada. 2800pts for $40?! WTF!?

[KingBroly]

2400 points = $30 US so 2800 points = $35 US, so you're paying a $5 premium. You should be lucky it isn't more quite honestly.

Also, I'm missing the punchline of that Giant Bomb video.

[QiG]

2400 points = $30 US so 2800 points = $35 US, so you're paying a $5 premium. You should be lucky it isn't more quite honestly.

Also, I'm missing the punchline of that Giant Bomb video.

The content manager's name is "Ding Dong"

[LegendK7ll3r]

Well if this is your taste than fine..but just look at it from a retro gamer's perspective. This game was phenomenal when it was released on the SNES and it was and still is one of the most complete beat em ups made. When you release an updated version of a great game, you would expect it to be just as good and in fact better...but it isn't. All they did was update the graphics, take out the combos, and make everything sound like a wet sponge....while somehow a lowly 16-bit cart still did it better. I can't see why they can release an arcade port and make it 4 player. That would still be fun but yet it holds the nostalgia factor. This game is just a hollow shell of what it's supposed to be. As a retro gamer i hated it. I felt like Ubisoft did this in a half hour and decided not to beta test it and find out how much it really doesnt feel like an updated arcade port.

I'm a retro gamer as well. I've played both this and Hyperstone Heist (which is practically the same game, with a different level or two and a different scenario) hundreds of times as a kid.

If it bothers you that much, why don't you just view it as a brand new game, and stop trying to compare back to your childhood? Just play it, have fun. I can guarantee you, that if you go back and play that game on SNES now, you won't have nearly as much fun as you remember.

This game is very fun, maybe not if you play alone, but as I said before, playing with friends relives some classic TMNT fun you had while growing up. Maybe it's not on the "same level" as the old Turtles in Time, but it's still damn fun, and people really need to stop complaining about every little thing they find wrong with it, and actually just play it and have fun. That's what games are for, to have fun.

[darkforce97]

A fun game - purchased it for 800 points and was worth it.

Looking to get double dragon off someone. Since its been delisted just before i started to use LIVE. Crap!

Can anyone help me out??

Thanks!

[HydroX]

Double Dragon? I just deleted it today. It's really not worth it.

[Chadical]

I'm really wanting Maximum Carnage to come out. Definitely one of the best Beat em ups from my childhood.

[flameofdoom666]

Wow, so many people complaining. How many of you actually played past the demo, and or played with an actual person? This is a steal for $10, and is damn fun to play with friends.

I own it, and think it is blah. Not horrible, but not good either.

[ihadFG]

Where's the love for the Manhattan Project?

That was a great game too...probably my favorite TMNT game.

[Matt Young]

I'm really wanting Maximum Carnage to come out. Definitely one of the best Beat em ups from my childhood.

I know it'd be impossible, but I wish we could get a compilation featuring all sorts of SNES era licensed beat-em-up style games.

[eastx]

I was expecting something that didn't suck.

It's funny how you've done nothing but troll in this thread and said absolutely nothing with any intelligence. And by funny I mean pathetic. :P

Not sure what some of you guys were expecting from this... I think the new coat of paint makes it pretty fresh, and it plays very similarly to the arcade game, even with the small changes they made.

[Trakan]

It's funny how you've done nothing but troll in this thread and said absolutely nothing with any intelligence. And by funny I mean pathetic. :P

Not sure what some of you guys were expecting from this... I think the new coat of paint makes it pretty fresh, and it plays very similarly to the arcade game, even with the small changes they made.

It changed everything that made it a good game, and ruined my memories of it as a child in the process.

[eastx]

Nice hyperbole. :P

[Trakan]

Dead. Fucking. Serious.

[eastx]

It changed everything that made it a good game, and ruined my memories of it as a child in the process.

Did it change the part where four people play as Ninja Turtles, moving through linear levels and mashing attack as much as possible to defeat enemy foot soldiers? At the end of the first level, instead of Baxter Stockman, do we now fight a dinosaur? Or do the Turtles get life refills from hot dogs instead of pizza now? Wait, maybe the old game had some attacks that they left out. That must be what's ruined your memories.

Back in reality though, it seems like the graphics are now 3D and in a different art style, the voices are different (and mostly better), and the Turtles can attack in 8 directions now. Oh, sure, it doesn't have the extra stuff from the SNES version, but it was never advertised as having that. I'll give you that the music isn't as good as the original, but it's not really offensive either. So... I can't see how your memories have been damaged. This was always going to be a remake of the arcade game with the features I just described, and it was never going to be an emulation of the SNES or original arcade games.

[seanr1221]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-1wnAZKkI

Interesting video. The games seem pretty damn similar to me, but it's been a while since I've played the original.

[Matt Young]

The ability to attack in 8 directions does more harm than good.

[Brak]

It's funny how you've done nothing but troll in this thread and said absolutely nothing with any intelligence. And by funny I mean pathetic. :P
It's funny how you enjoy the game.

And by funny, I mean "You're a corporate whore."

Then again, I also tossed my $10 at Ubi-Soft Singapore.

[Trakan]

Did it change the part where four people play as Ninja Turtles, moving through linear levels and mashing attack as much as possible to defeat enemy foot soldiers? At the end of the first level, instead of Baxter Stockman, do we now fight a dinosaur? Or do the Turtles get life refills from hot dogs instead of pizza now? Wait, maybe the old game had some attacks that they left out. That must be what's ruined your memories.

Back in reality though, it seems like the graphics are now 3D and in a different art style, the voices are different (and mostly better), and the Turtles can attack in 8 directions now. Oh, sure, it doesn't have the extra stuff from the SNES version, but it was never advertised as having that. I'll give you that the music isn't as good as the original, but it's not really offensive either. So... I can't see how your memories have been damaged. This was always going to be a remake of the arcade game with the features I just described, and it was never going to be an emulation of the SNES or original arcade games.

The Turtles look and sound far worse than the original. The combat is worse. I'll get interrupted in the middle of a combo. Sometimes I'll keep doing the same initial stick-swing with Donatello instead of continuing into a combo. I'll be inside somebody's asshole beating the shit out of them, but they're somehow invulnerable. Baxter Stockman looks like a goddamn dragon. I'm not mad that it's missing the stuff from the SNES version, although they could have easily included it. The remixed music is absolutely terrible.

A remake is supposed to improve on everything the original did. This game somehow does worse in every way. If it's inferior to the original, there's a problem.

It's fucking bush league. Maybe the wrong team handled it.

[Brak]

His overgeneralized comparisons brought the lulz.

[LegendK7ll3r]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-1wnAZKkI

Interesting video. The games seem pretty damn similar to me, but it's been a while since I've played the original.

Thank you. After seeing that, anyone who complains about this remake I'll just have to laugh at. It's the same game, and this quite clearly shows it, especially how true they stayed to the levels and formulas.

[Brak]

http://illustrationfriday.com/blog/wp-content/monalisabyadamkoford.jpg

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-3/mona-lisa.jpg

These are the same paintings.

[Rodimus]

I miss gliding in the air endlessly swinging my weapon. Also the grabs such as throwing and slamming seem to happen at random in Re-Shelled while in the SNES I could pull them off by command everytime.

[IceBlueShoes]

Good vid. Wow Krang looks a LOT better.

Just got TMNT:RS and while it's good, the 3d animation makes it easier to get lost. I just started mashing buttons hoping I'd hit something. lol
But the online option is really good.
I also wish their was an option to get the old arcade version back. but I'm content.
The music however is pretty bad.
IMO, they should've either left it alone, or remixed the old music with new instruments ala OCR.

Same core game, but not exactly the same. I really do like the survival mode though. Would be nice if the original arcade game had that as a game mode as well.
I'll def. be playing this game a lot. :)

[LegendK7ll3r]

Good vid. Wow Krang looks a LOT better.

Just got TMNT:RS and while it's good, the 3d animation makes it easier to get lost. I just started mashing buttons hoping I'd hit something. lol
But the online option is really good.
I also wish their was an option to get the old arcade version back. but I'm content.
The music however is pretty bad.
IMO, they should've either left it alone, or remixed the old music with new instruments ala OCR.

Same core game, but not exactly the same. I really do like the survival mode though. Would be nice if the original arcade game had that as a game mode as well.
I'll def. be playing this game a lot. :)

If you do get lost, hold the LT. It will put an icon above your head, to let you know which one is you.

[IceBlueShoes]

If you do get lost, hold the LT. It will put an icon above your head, to let you know which one is you.
AHh! So thats what it does! I was wondering what that was.
thanks! :applause:

[eastx]

The Turtles look and sound far worse than the original. The combat is worse. I'll get interrupted in the middle of a combo. Sometimes I'll keep doing the same initial stick-swing with Donatello instead of continuing into a combo. I'll be inside somebody's asshole beating the shit out of them, but they're somehow invulnerable. Baxter Stockman looks like a goddamn dragon. I'm not mad that it's missing the stuff from the SNES version, although they could have easily included it. The remixed music is absolutely terrible.

A remake is supposed to improve on everything the original did. This game somehow does worse in every way. If it's inferior to the original, there's a problem.


Hey, I got you to make a good post! So you and Brak don't like how the Turtles look in this game. Here's something to consider:

http://i8.tinypic.com/4zyo104.jpg
The old cartoon Turtles

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/2k8Leo.jpg?t=1249709083
One of the new cartoon Turtles (2003-onward)

Which one of those designs looks more like this?

http://cdn.screenjunkies.com/www/sites/default/files/TMNT-1.jpg

The original Turtles in Time was based on the old cartoon series. Reshelled is a remake for modern audiences. Kids today don't want the cartoon in which squishy, short Turtles fight robot foot soldiers. They watch the new cartoon that's a lot closer to the comic books. You don't like the new cartoon because it's different than what you grew up with? That's what the Turtles are now. So Reshelled uses the new cartoon character designs and even the real voices from that cartoon for each turtle. The old game just had generic Konami voices and each Turtle had the same voice. The art and voice overhaul is necessary for pleasing modern audiences, even if it conflicts with some people's nostalgia.

Oh yeah, and the mash-up of a game based on the old TV series with characters from the new TV series may seem strange... But the animated movie "TMNT Forever" coming to DVD later this year operates along similar lines. The old Turtles and their enemies will meet the new Turtles and co, so Reshelled could almost be viewed as existing within the TMNT Forever universe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/JNCOPosterboy/GGM/Foot%20Clan%20Tryouts%202009/201_2568.jpg

[KingBroly]

I think most people wanted the old school look. If you look at a lot of the non-buyers of the game, the reason given was 'no old school version included'.

[BustaUppa]

I hear what you're saying eastx, but given your premise I think a better course of action would be to just make a brand new game! Why take an old gem and go all George Lucas on it?

[doodofdoods]

I might buy it still, but what bothers me is that they really didn't add much to the game besides updating the graphics and adding online play. Anything would have been good, more characters, more levels, upgradeable turtles, unlockable costumes,...anything. But they gave us nothing. And they didn't even give us the SNES content for whatever reason. Pretty disappointing.

[Trakan]

Hey, I got you to make a good post! So you and Brak don't like how the Turtles look in this game.

The original Turtles in Time was based on the old cartoon series. Reshelled is a remake for modern audiences. Kids today don't want the cartoon in which squishy, short Turtles fight robot foot soldiers. They watch the new cartoon that's a lot closer to the comic books. You don't like the new cartoon because it's different than what you grew up with? That's what the Turtles are now. So Reshelled uses the new cartoon character designs and even the real voices from that cartoon for each turtle. The old game just had generic Konami voices and each Turtle had the same voice. The art and voice overhaul is necessary for pleasing modern audiences, even if it conflicts with some people's nostalgia.

Oh yeah, and the mash-up of a game based on the old TV series with characters from the new TV series may seem strange... But the animated movie "TMNT Forever" coming to DVD later this year operates along similar lines. The old Turtles and their enemies will meet the new Turtles and co, so Reshelled could almost be viewed as existing within the TMNT Forever universe.

Look, guy, I get what you're saying. Don't talk to me like I'm a fuckin' retard. They're still Turtles. I get it. What I'm saying is that I don't like it, and it's one of the reasons this game doesn't live up to the original.

Call me crazy, but I think a re-make would trying to capture the nostalgia for the audience that loved the original moreso than modern audiences. I get what they tried to do. It didn't work for me, and apparently, it didn't work for a lot of people.

Obviously, with the whole redesign with the Turtles brand years ago, they are going for another look/audience. Like BustaUppa said though, they'd be better off making a new game than screwing up the original.

[eastx]

I didn't mean to imply that you're not smart or something. You had just made several posts in a row that expressed negative sentiments without providing any details. When you provided details, I could finally understand your viewpoint.

Keep in mind I'm only addressing the gripes of graphics and voices here. It's really fine if the new art doesn't do anything for you. But the way some people are describing it, the revamp is an affront to humanity, or at least Turtles fans. That's not a reasoned response. Like I explained above, their decision to change the graphics and voices makes a lot of sense. BustUppa's response is reasonable - you don't have to like what they did, but don't act like it's madness, either.

Anyone can get the original arcade game elsewhere in emulated form, so I find an update to be a lot more exciting. Was it a mistake to leave out the option of playing the original in the remake? Obviously so, if a fair number of people want that. Still, plenty of people are happy with this version too. For my money, it's a much more fun game than any other TMNT game of the last several years.

[KingBroly]

But how many remakes are as good, if not better than the original? Not a lot.

[Trakan]

For my money, it's a much more fun game than any other TMNT game of the last several years.

That's probably a given. I don't doubt that.

Let me ask you this. When it comes down to it, would you rather have what we have now with this remake, or the SNES version with 4-player online coop?

I think the answer is obvious, and pretty much proves the remake is inferior.

[eastx]

But that was my original point. Just because something is inferior, that doesn't make it the maximum level of bad.

Example: The Super NES version of Street Fighter 2 isn't as good as the arcade game by most criteria, so is the SNES version suddenly atrocious? No, it's just a little worse. Some people may even like it better for adding a versus mode despite all the graphical and aural fidelity it loses or the many little differences in timing and moves. If anything, it allowed many people to play Street Fighter 2 against other people more often than the arcade game, since as kids maybe we couldn't get to the arcade much or whatever. In the same way, TMNT Reshelled doesn't have all the features that the SNES version did, but it adds a little bit of stuff and lets us play online with people, which we couldn't otherwise do if it never came out.

I agree that videogame remakes should be superior to the originals, but just because a game doesn't accomplish that in every possible way, that doesn't mean it's the worst game ever or shouldn't exist.

[Trakan]

I agree that videogame remakes should be superior to the originals, but just because a game doesn't accomplish that in every possible way, that doesn't mean it's the worst game ever or shouldn't exist.

Fair enough, but a port and a remake are two very different things IMO.

[Gourd]

I really miss the SNES throws that you could actually control. Somewhat of a deal breaker for me, as that's part of my nostalgia for this game.

[Monsta Mack]

But how many remakes are as good, if not better than the original? Not a lot.

Monkey Island remake that apparently no one cares about on CAG. They re-did the graphics and kept the original in.

Which is what this title should have done considering all the complaints.

[sendme]

Bought this game and was playing it last night on live. 4 players on screen just seems like it is to much. At times I couldn't even tell where I was. Also as much as I hate to say this but it would be nice if you could save. After about 3 or 4 levels I wanted to watch TV and had two options quit and watch tv and start all over or keep playing even though I didn't want to.

[intoxicated662]

Yeah, with 4 players online doing the campaign co-op it is chaos and gets crazy. You lose where you are and you better find where your character is at quick. The game is not worth 800 points, sorry to say. I am a fan and played this game online last night with 3 other people in co-op campaign and took us about an hour to complete it. This is something that you let a friend buy and then you go play it for free over there; wait for a giveaway or find another way to play or get it for $5. The graphics are nice and it plays smoothly but there really isn't any replay value.

[CaseyRyback]

This game is the biggest disappointment since Resident Evil 5.

[seanr1221]

I think GiantBomb nails it in their review.

If you pumped your share of quarters into any of the innumerable beat-'em-ups of yesteryear's arcades--games like Final Fight, Double Dragon, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles--then a high-definition 3D update to any one of those games might sound like a great idea to you. But that's probably because you haven't played any of those old games since they were popular and thus have not yet come to the belated realization that these games are actually pretty simple and boring by today's standards.

Is the arcade version a lot better? Don't count the SNES version since this isn't a remake of that. I think the people who enjoy this game, enjoy it for what it is.

Basically, the arcade game in HD. I didn't have these unrealistic high hopes going into it, and I got exactly what I expected. If this doesn't sell well, I'm sure Ubi will be kicking themselves because a direct port of the arcade version probably wouldn't have gotten this much negative response.

I'm curious why they didn't elect to remake the SNES version though. Maybe it was licensing issues?

[KaneRobot]

Is the arcade version a lot better?

I fired it up on MAME last night to see if I was fooling myself - and to answer your question, I'd say yes. Well, not "a lot better," but definitely more fun. This game didn't need a big overhaul like this. The first game was essentially a straight port and it was fine. Honestly, all TiT RS made me want to do is play the prequel on XBLA.

That Giantbomb review though - I am getting tired of people saying that the game is lackluster just because "it was good back then and it isn't now, since games are better now." Fuck those people with a rusty pickaxe. Go jump on the SNES version of this game and tell me it isn't fun.

[cgarb84]

Ok I am finally going to post my thoughts on this game. It is good, not great, not as good as the originals, either SNES or Arcade, but it is still a good remake despite its flaws. I have played and beaten (multiple times) Turtles in Time on the SNES within the last year so I think I have a good basis for comparision. All the people saying this pisses on their childhood are wearing nostagia glasses when looking at the original. While still a lot of fun today it IS NOT drastically different from this remake... it's just not. Anyone who says otherwise either hasn't played the original in years or is just a moron.

[Matt Young]

This game is the biggest disappointment since Resident Evil 5.

That's the first time I've ever seen someone say something negative about RE5, besides myself.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I think GiantBomb nails it in their review.



Is the arcade version a lot better? Don't count the SNES version since this isn't a remake of that. I think the people who enjoy this game, enjoy it for what it is.

Basically, the arcade game in HD. I didn't have these unrealistic high hopes going into it, and I got exactly what I expected. If this doesn't sell well, I'm sure Ubi will be kicking themselves because a direct port of the arcade version probably wouldn't have gotten this much negative response.

I'm curious why they didn't elect to remake the SNES version though. Maybe it was licensing issues?

I don't agree with what giant bomb said about Final Fight. I still enjoy it to this day. I love old school games, and beat em ups in general. I think that is the reason they didn't do the snes version must have been licensing issues. I look at this game different than most people. It may not be all that great,but its better than nothing. :lol:

[eastx]

True, so far there have not been ports or remakes of any Konami NES or SNES games - they always use the arcade versions, like with Contra and Super Contra. So there may be legitimate licensing issues.

[KingBroly]

Monkey Island remake that apparently no one cares about on CAG. They re-did the graphics and kept the original in.

Which is what this title should have done considering all the complaints.

I definitely liked Monkey Island SE. But my point is there are a handful of remakes in a sea of them that are as good as the original, and there are even fewer that surpass the original. This one is just like every other one, but it's still fun to play, albeit mind-numbing and confusing at times.

Personally, I can only think of 3 remakes that surpass the original:
- Metroid Zero Mission
- Super Castlevania IV
- Super Mario Advance (remake of SMB2 USA)

[IceBlueShoes]

Yeah, with 4 players online doing the campaign co-op it is chaos and gets crazy. You lose where you are and you better find where your character is at quick. The game is not worth 800 points, sorry to say. I am a fan and played this game online last night with 3 other people in co-op campaign and took us about an hour to complete it. This is something that you let a friend buy and then you go play it for free over there; wait for a giveaway or find another way to play or get it for $5. The graphics are nice and it plays smoothly but there really isn't any replay value.
I also thought it was a bit hard to find oneself with 4 turtles on screen. Then I went back to check the older arcade games to compare.
It's also hard to find out what's going on at times then, especially on the skateboard, like levels.
Atleast w/ this version you can that "find" button feature.

Maybe it's just me, but this newer version is starting to grow on me. It's not perfect and I would've been happy w/ the arcade version as well, but it looks a lot better overall. I like this animation style with the combination of the comic and old cartoon style.
The voices are better now.

What I don't like: the music sucks. End of story. As I said before, I think they should've just remixed it and updated it with new instruments or something.
I'm also not too keen on this version of Leatherhead.
I prefer the old one.
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/turtles-iv-leatherhead.jpg

Also the new level of Neon Nightriders is just weird. Wasn't it supposed to be at night? lol

Having said that overall I think it's a good remake. Not perfect, but good. It's not supposed to be a deep game (nostalgia does that to ya sometimes) like Fallout, but rather a quick game you can pick up.
True, so far there have not been ports or remakes of any Konami NES or SNES games - they always use the arcade versions, like with Contra and Super Contra. So there may be legitimate licensing issues.
Not sure if that's true but Contra 3 and the original TMNT for the NES have been released on Wiiware... Not sure about XBL though...


And we'll probably see a TMNT:4 Arcade port...
For 400MS points...

[eastx]

I meant on non-Nintendo systems... Sorry about that.

Leatherhead is indeed a butt to fight against in Reshelled. It's nice to see him looking more frightening like the comic book version though.

[Monsta Mack]

Personally, I can only think of 5 remakes that surpass the original:
- Metroid Zero Mission
- Super Castlevania IV
- Super Mario Advance (remake of SMB2 USA)
- REMake for Gamecube
- Monkey Island Special Edition


Fixed :P

[KingBroly]

I want to preface that I didn't include Monkey Island into the equation since if it didn't include the remade version, I don't think it would've been as good as the original. Some of the designs were...uh...interesting. I know Metroid Zero Mission included the original as an unlockable, but it was still far and above the original.

As for REmake, maybe...I guess. I never liked Resident Evil games until 4 so I can't really say one way or another. Give me REmakes in the style of RE4 (preferably Wii controls) and then we'll talk about it.

[eastx]

REmake is better than the original in every conceivable way. Out of Monsta Mack's list, all but one of those games are full retail titles. I think it's harder for a downloadable title to exceed the quality of a retail title since the budget and potential audience are so much lower.

Oh yeah, you forgot Bionic Commando Rearmed - another game that's better than the original in every possible way (despite being a downloadable game).

[KingBroly]

REmake is better than the original in every conceivable way. Out of Monsta Mack's list, all but one of those games are full retail titles. I think it's harder for a downloadable title to exceed the quality of a retail title since the budget and potential audience are so much lower.

Oh yeah, you forgot Bionic Commando Rearmed - another game that's better than the original in every possible way (despite being a downloadable game).

I guess the original Bionic Commando really sucked then because I really hate Rearmed.

[RelentlessRolento]

Rearmed was pure gold, but a very different flavor from the original.

[lilboo]

Played the demo. I kind of like this. I'll probably eventually get this if I can pick up cheap points somewhere.

I rather them released the original. However, a whole new turtles game (with the re-shelled look) and based on Turtles in Time. Maybe even like a Turtles in Time II. :shrug:

[Rodimus]

ReArmed was great. Probably the best remake I've ever played.

[DunckTheFunk]

So how good is this game?

[Monsta Mack]

It's like impossible to get the heroes in a halfshell achivement for me because usually always one player quits mid match (What, can't hang around for ten minutes?) and survival is gonna take awhile.

[KingBroly]

You get Heroes in a Half Shell by beating the game with each Turtle individually. Not by completing an online game with all 4 Turtles.

[Hoffer]

I'm enjoying this game. I spent some time this afternoon trying to beat survival mode. I'll pull it off eventually and then I'll have all 200 GS.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

You get Heroes in a Half Shell by beating the game with each Turtle individually. Not by completing an online game with all 4 Turtles.

Yep. I tried explaining this to another guy,but he still don't believe me. I'm only missing two. Missing the one for the third stage where you can't get hit by any traps, and I don't have the one for survival mode. I think the survival mode one would be about damn impossible.

[KingBroly]

For the Traps one, you can still get hit by the metal doors and get the Achievement.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

For the Traps one, you can still get hit by the metal doors and get the Achievement.

That's interesting to know. I really thought it might have included those as well.

[eastx]

My brother, son, and I beat the game on normal today. Two of us missed the Achievement for not dying on the final boss. Luckily the game is kind enough to let you earn Achievements through the Quick Play stage select, so we jumped right back into the fight and got the Achievement.

[ProtoEXE88]

Yeah I can confirm the vines hitting you won't count against the achievement.

I got it on my first try through the level, and was hit by the very first set of vines.

Overall the game is decent, not great, it's really only fun because I've been playing with friends through it.

[Magus8472]

I think the survival mode one would be about damn impossible.

It's much easier than it sounds. Just do it solo.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

It's much easier than it sounds. Just do it solo.

Its the only one I don't have now. I might try it solo.

[Monsta Mack]

You get Heroes in a Half Shell by beating the game with each Turtle individually. Not by completing an online game with all 4 Turtles.

Good to know thanks.

[The 7th Number]

So would you recommend this game? I just picked up a 1600 points card and was thinking of getting this. But i read a review and it said this game sucked, and was frustrating. Playing the demo, the controls didnt seem as tight as i wished they were.

[IceBlueShoes]

Game is good i thought.
My only big beef is that it would take keep kicking out when I tried to join an XBL game.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

So would you recommend this game? I just picked up a 1600 points card and was thinking of getting this. But i read a review and it said this game sucked, and was frustrating. Playing the demo, the controls didnt seem as tight as i wished they were.

I thought it was really easy to be honest with you. I would recommend it,but I'm a tmnt fanboy. So we may not agree. ;)

[soccerstud652]

I'd recommend this game. It will entertain you for an afternoon or two, but not much more.