Brutal Legend - Gen. Discussion & Info - Demo Out Now!

[LinkinPrime]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48684.html

I know I had a thread for this a long while back but I can't find it. Anywho...looks fucking sick!

[fart_bubble]

can't wait for this one. Sadly I'll be down in Texas for school and with my luck, I'll be deployed right after school so I probably won't get to play it till some time next year

[TC]

very much looking forward to this game. First day purchase.

[Danimal]

This is my most-wanted game of the year. It pretty much has been ever since I first heard of it last year, and heard that Tim Schafer was making it. Thanks for posting the video, Linkin. I hadn't seen that one yet. Looks awesome.

[Trillian]

Day one for me! I'm hoping they come up with some preorder schwag, too.

[mrfossey]

First pre-order bonus I've seen:

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73463

Gamestop exclusive in-game guitar. Here's hoping Amazon will have something good...

[reapersaurus]

One of the only games I'm thinking of buying new.

[rpg fiend]

Can't wait for this one!

[NutForest]

Looks quite good. Jack Black is very fitting for this typa character :D

[LinkinPrime]

I hope this doesn't delay and/or cancel the game:
LOS ANGELES - A lawsuit filed by Activision may keep Jack Black from becoming a "Brutal Legend" later this year.
Activision Entertainment Holdings Inc. sued game developer Double Fine Productions Inc. on Wednesday to try to stop the release of "Brutal Legend" by rival Electronic Arts.
The lawsuit, filed in Santa Monica, Calif., on Wednesday, claims Double Fine failed to deliver "Brutal Legend" on time. The suit also claims the firm then offered the completed game to EA.
"Brutal Legend" is scheduled for release in October. It features Black as a heavy-metal roadie transported to a mythical ancient world to fight evil.
EA has been heavily promoting the game at this week's Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles. A gigantic banner of Black's character, Eddie Riggs, is hanging outside the convention's venue.
The lawsuit claims Activision paid Double Fine about $15 million to develop "Brutal Legend," but the studio missed a key deadline last year. The suit claims Double Fine then said it would need another nine months and $7 million to complete the game.
Activision and Double Fine negotiated to try to keep the game on track, but no agreement was ever reached, according to the court filing. Activision contends it never relinquished its rights to the game and that Double Fine improperly transferred "Brutal Legend" to EA.
"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Double Fine President Tim Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyonce is going to sue me too."
The lawsuit states that Activision has suffered "irreparable harm" and will lose not only the game, but also the ability to sell downloadable content based on "Brutal Legend" if the release isn't stopped.
EA, which is not named as a party in the lawsuit, had no official comment on the filing.

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090604/ap_on_hi_te/us_games_brutal_legend_lawsuit

[hhhdx4]

""Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Double Fine President Tim Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyonce is going to sue me too."
The lawsuit states that Activision has suffered "irreparable harm" and will lose not only the game, but also the ability to sell downloadable content based on "Brutal Legend" if the release isn't stopped.
EA, which is not named as a party in the lawsuit, had no official comment on the filing."

1. Tim Schafer is the MAN

2. **** Activision and their "irreparable" damages

[JohnnyFoxDarko]

Are Tim Schafer and Jon Schafer (of the band Iced Earth) related in anyway?
Seems like Tim uses their music a bit for promoting the game. Probably just a coincidence.

[Raconteur]

Activision blows.

[danked]

Activision blows.

Yeah and they sure don't pay enough.

[bardockkun]

Oh Activision, you really are the abusive ex-husband that can't let go.

[Spybreak8]

Like I said on another forums, Activision seems like its the new EA. As for the game, from what I saw (I love the new Metal Fantasy theme/environment), the personality of Jack Black and the genius of Schafer this very high up on my wishlist.

[Kaijufan]

This game is going to cost at least $21 million dollars to make? I have doubts this game will even sell enough units to make back the original $15 million dollar budget.

[DarkNessBear]

This game was probably the biggest surprise (in terms of graphics) at E3. I was shocked how good it looked (until I saw Mass Effect 2 screening) and it played really great and was a blast. The gameplay mechanics are really interesting and the whole presentation was awesome.

[LinkinPrime]

EA has just announced that a demo for Double Fine's Brutal Legend (http://kotaku.com/tag/brutal-legend/) will hit the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 (http://kotaku.com/tag/xbox-360/) in September.

Double Fine president Tim Schafer (http://kotaku.com/tag/tim-schafer/) specified September 17 as the official relase date for the demo during EA's Gamescom press conference (http://kotaku.com/5339855/ea-gamescom-2009-presser-liveblog).


http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/kotaku/full/~3/V7przNCe4v4/brutal-legend-demo-out-next-month

Sweet!!!

[TC]

Not that I need a demo for this, but it will be nice for those on the edge. Can't wait for this game.

[MemphisChill901]

BRUTAL LEGEND

wtf is this exactly?

[schuerm26]

BRUTAL LEGEND

wtf is this exactly?

Go type "Massive Dissapointment" into a search engine. Brutal Legend will pop up first, then you can do some research.

[chubbyninja1319]

Go type "Massive Dissapointment" into a search engine. Brutal Legend will pop up first, then you can do some research.

What makes you say that? I'll admit, I'm kind of on the fence about this because of my current backlog. But, it looks fun. Plus, I'm a big metal-head, so that makes it all the more appealing.

[budz]

try the demo and chill-lax! No need to hate yet!

[LinkinPrime]

I forget, but is the 9/17 demo date for GS pre-orders only?

[schuerm26]

What makes you say that? I'll admit, I'm kind of on the fence about this because of my current backlog. But, it looks fun. Plus, I'm a big metal-head, so that makes it all the more appealing.

In my opinion the look is going to be the only thing appealing. I think it will be pretty generic gameplay wise.

Hope Im wrong.

I think Game Informer did a preview also a month or two ago and they said something to the extent of it being rough around the edges. Im expecting about a 7.5 or so type game.

Rental in my opinion. I truly hope Im wrong though.

[woodcan]

Played it at PAX and it was pretty fun. I went from disinterested to "going to purchase on day 1"

[dburger]

Anyone played the demo yet?

[Schmackledorf]

It's a Tim Schafer game. That alone should say enough given his track record (Read: Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, and Psychonauts).

By the way, can anyone confirm the alleged Best Buy pre-order bonus? If it's actually true, I have to hop on that. Link to related article: http://www.brutallegend.net/news/alternative-pre-order-bonus-from-best-buy/

[LinkinPrime]

It's been confirmed in the 'Best Buy Pre-Order Bonus' thread in the deals forum.

[Scorch]

It's a Tim Schafer game. That alone should say enough given his track record (Read: Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, and Psychonauts).

By the way, can anyone confirm the alleged Best Buy pre-order bonus? If it's actually true, I have to hop on that. Link to related article: http://www.brutallegend.net/news/alternative-pre-order-bonus-from-best-buy/

GameCrazy has the same PO bonus. We actually already have some samples in the store.

[Feeding the Abscess]

What makes you say that? I'll admit, I'm kind of on the fence about this because of my current backlog. But, it looks fun. Plus, I'm a big metal-head, so that makes it all the more appealing.

I'm also a metalhead, and I'm avoiding this like the plague. Probably going to be the video game equivalent of Metalocalypse. Did you see Jack Black's appearance at the VMAs? Pathetic.

[Schmackledorf]

Thanks Linkin for pointing that out. Forgot that thread even existed (don't recall the last time I've even bought something from Best Buy).

Sweet. I'll definitely see if I can find a Game Crazy near me to check it out. Thanks Scorch.

[Spybreak8]

Just took a survey for this game and I have to say you're going to really like the tv ad that comes out later this year, awesome (sweet ass lyrics synced up to accompanying gameplay). This has now become "an as soon as review scores pop up I'm getting it" purchase haha.

[Nebenator]

Gameplay looks awesome.
Cutscenes look awesome.
I want this game :D

[LinkinPrime]

Excellent demo! Believe the hype...that is all.

[RedGamer]

If someone has a code laying around for the Brutal Legend demo, I could toss off a $5 off EASports Store code for you if you don't need the demo.

Please PM me if interested. I -really- want to play this demo.

[bardockkun]

I'm also a metalhead, and I'm avoiding this like the plague. Probably going to be the video game equivalent of Metalocalypse. Did you see Jack Black's appearance at the VMAs? Pathetic.
If you were a metalhead you wouldn't be watching the VMA's in the first place...

[chubbyninja1319]

If you were a metalhead you wouldn't be watching the VMA's in the first place...

HA! Nice! And a very valid point.

[woodcan]

Just played the GS pre-order demo yesterday. It sucks because I was expecting the same demo I played at PAX but instead the download demo is half the length/content. Not sure why they decided to do that because I thought the PAX demo gave a better impression of the game. Regardless, I am still totally excited about the game and just wish it was scheduled to be released sooner.

[Feeding the Abscess]

If you were a metalhead you wouldn't be watching the VMA's in the first place...

YouTube. There are even videos of hysterical conspiracy theorists using it as proof that he's a Freemason, leading everyone in a Satanic prayer.

[bardockkun]

What do conspiracy theories have anything to do with you watching an "awards show" with Beyonce and Taylor Swift and presented by the new Twilight movie? Hell, what does this have to do with Brutal Legend at all?!

[menikmati]

Just watched the Quick Look on Giant Bomb, definitely going to be downloading the demo.

[Feeding the Abscess]

What do conspiracy theories have anything to do with you watching an "awards show" with Beyonce and Taylor Swift and presented by the new Twilight movie? Hell, what does this have to do with Brutal Legend at all?!

...

I saw the Jack Black clip on YouTube. I stumbled upon it going from a Peter Schiff video to some Bush backwards talking spoof video, to some conspiratorial video, then to the VMA appearance clip by Jack Black interpreted as being a Freemason ritual. In the clip, Jack Black was in Brutal Legend character, wearing a Brutal Legend shirt and fake muscles, chanting retarded, cliched nonsense that made Metalocalypse look genuine. It was atrocious. In its brief playtime, it encapsulated everything that all of the hype and ads surrounding the game has exuded - that it's apparently trying to make Spinal Tap look subtle.

[bardockkun]

...

I saw the Jack Black clip on YouTube. I stumbled upon it going from a Peter Schiff video to some Bush backwards talking spoof video, to some conspiratorial video, then to the VMA appearance clip by Jack Black interpreted as being a Freemason ritual. In the clip, Jack Black was in Brutal Legend character, wearing a Brutal Legend shirt and fake muscles, chanting retarded, cliched nonsense that made Metalocalypse look genuine. It was atrocious. In its brief playtime, it encapsulated everything that all of the hype and ads surrounding the game has exuded - that it's apparently trying to make Spinal Tap look subtle.
Do I dare even ask what's wrong with Metalocalypse as well?

Plus from that clip you described it just sounds like Jack Black being Jack Black (partially stoned and willing to do whatever need be to get a laugh).

[Halo05]

Do I dare even ask what's wrong with Metalocalypse as well?


That's what I can't figure out.

Does "Heavy Metal = Serious Business" all of the sudden?

[bardockkun]

They got Gene Hoglan of Dark Angel (and Testament, Death, Fear Factory and abunch of other bands) fame on drums. Plus they make subtle references to metal bands on every show. Not to mention Brendon Smalls is a HUGE metal head (an actual one, not just one that bitches about thing's not being "metal") and he does make some good music.

And 1.57 gigs for a demo?! Goddamn!

[DukeEdwardI]

I was unaware as well that there's something wrong with Metalocalypse. Love that show. Anyway, downloading the demo now!

[Nelo Ice]

u guys are gonna love the main menu :D

[schuerm26]

Im going to go back on my initial post about "utter dissapointment".

After playing the demo this has moved into the definitely worth a serious look.

[jman619]

Demo wasn't bad. The game is going to be better than I expected. I'll have to get it.

[bardockkun]

Yeah, enjoyed the demo. The writing was definitely on par with what I expect from a Double Fine game.

[Malik112099]

HOLY FUCK I loved this and didnt expect to even though I love Jack Black. All the random shit he says is awesome. When he called that guy a motherfucking piece of shit I was sold. The random shit he was saying as you took that four legged thing down the side of the skull hill had me in stitches. The main menu is just so simple yet so badass.....I have got to get this game.

[FriskyTanuki]

There's an interesting event happening next week on the Brutal Legend site:
Ormagoden, the Cremator of the Sky, the Destroyer of the Ancient world, the Lord of all things Brütal has demanded that 666 Million humans download the face meltingly awesome Demo of Brütal Legend or he will give “everyone” Swine Flu. While this may seem like a good time to panic, sell all your worldly possessions and run to the hills, fear not. Double Fine will be streaming a LIVE video “Dem-o-Thon” in support of the Demo in hopes that they can meet Ormagoden’s impossible demands and save you sinuses.

Tune in to www.brutallegend.com (http://www.brutallegend.com/) Thursday, October 1st at 12pm PST for a live broadcast from Double Fine Productions in San Francisco featuring interviews and antics with the Double Fine team as well as Live Q&A’ from our fans atwww.twitter.com/brutallegend (http://www.twitter.com/brutallegend), awesome giveaways, a message from Tim’s Swine Flu proofed bunker, Spoilers, Live Axe Lessons, and much more. Also, don’t forget, the Demo goes Live October 1st for everyone on Xbox Live and PSN. Download and play this mind destryoningly epic Demo and help Double Fine productions stave off the wrath of Ormagoden.

[DukeEdwardI]

HOLY FUCK I loved this and didnt expect to even though I love Jack Black. All the random shit he says is awesome. When he called that guy a motherfucking piece of shit I was sold. The random shit he was saying as you took that four legged thing down the side of the skull hill had me in stitches.

Oh i know, I was laughing at all the crap he was saying, but the BEST that had me rolling was at the end after the boss....

DECAPITATIOOOOOONNNN!!!!!!!!

[Monsta Mack]

Demo was fairly impressive. I may have to keep this on my radar down the line.

[Scorch]

The game just oozes badass. I think I will be buying this one.

[-Never4ever-]

Well you guys convinced me to check out the demo.

Still have yet to play any of Tims other games tho

[Viva Las Vegas]

They got Gene Hoglan of Testament fame on drums. Plus they make subtle references to metal bands on every show. Not to mention Brendon Smalls is a HUGE metal head (an actual one, not just one that bitches about thing's not being "metal") and he does make some good music.

And 1.57 gigs for a demo?! Goddamn!

Edit this, you mean Dark Angel fame ; )

[freshzen]

I haven't listened to metal in over 10 years but I loved the demo. Might try to just rent it though, will have to see the achievement list.

[gareman]

Oh i know, I was laughing at all the crap he was saying, but the BEST that had me rolling was at the end after the boss....

DECAPITATIOOOOOONNNN!!!!!!!!
Then plays guitar on the ax instead of the actual guitar. I am really excited about this game. Even my girlfriend was laughing and interested

[Vulcan2422]

I played the demo last night, and it was Awesome. I actually smiled through alot of it. The storyline is awesome, Jack Blacks voice fits in really well, gameplay is solid. Hell, even the options for gore and language are funny. I really think this might be a Day One purchase for me. And the soundtrack of the game when playing is just awesome as hell as well!

[thrustbucket]

I was just going to say the same thing. I haven't smiled that much for a long time, while playing a video game. the gore/language prompts made me laugh my ass off.

[erectiontown]

this is pretty much going to be the best game ever made

[thrustbucket]

I am concerned on just what most of the gameplay is. I know it's suppose to be somewhat sandboxy, but I am concerned about longevity and repetition. Other than that though, day one purchase as soon as those concerns are addressed by a review.

[ajh2298]

I played though the demo a couple of times and enjoyed it a lot I just dont know if I enjoyed it enough to spend $64.00 on it. This seems like a perfect game to wait a few weeks for to find a used copy and combine it with a GS B2G1 Free sale or a 20% off weekly coupon.

[Techsticles]

The demo was fun and funny, made me glad I preordered it for $30 during the Best Buy buy one get one half off promo.

[xxDOYLExx]

Some people "get it" and some people don't. For those that "get it" (like myself) this game is a gift from one of the most talented game designers of all time. The demo just solidified my decision to purchase this game day one. I truly pity those that dont "get it".

[erectiontown]

what's not to get?

[xxDOYLExx]

what's not to get?

exactly.

[mcroddi]

TIMofLEGEND baby! Awesome to see all the positive comments...trying the demo tonight...then click 'buy now'...hopefully.

[erectiontown]

i hope EA doesn't F the dog on sending out pre-orders for this. i ordered mine from the best buy sims cards thing many months ago. WANT

[wakawakawa]

Played the demo, has to be one of the best demos I've ever played. I'm in love with the game design, humor, and metal, but I also really liked the gameplay.

[fizzywix]

Just preordered this on Amazon with my credits from Halo ODST and Uncharted preorders, $37.xx with delivery date shipping. ROCKtober 13th couldn't come soon enough

[schuerm26]

Some people "get it" and some people don't. For those that "get it" (like myself) this game is a gift from one of the most talented game designers of all time. The demo just solidified my decision to purchase this game day one. I truly pity those that dont "get it".

THis is a ridiculous post. You might like the story. You might not. You might like the gameplay. You might not. There really isn't anything to "get" more than there is the latest Final Fantasy release. Some people will like it, others won't.

Seemed to me like it is going to be a fun game. A lot more than I was expecting and I am actually now excited for this. And YES I DID NOT LIKE PSYCHONAUTS!!! Did I not "get" that one or did I just think it was a pretty bland platformer?

[xxDOYLExx]

THis is a ridiculous post. You might like the story. You might not. You might like the gameplay. You might not. There really isn't anything to "get" more than there is the latest Final Fantasy release. Some people will like it, others won't.

Seemed to me like it is going to be a fun game. A lot more than I was expecting and I am actually now excited for this. And YES I DID NOT LIKE PSYCHONAUTS!!! Did I not "get" that one or did I just think it was a pretty bland platformer?

Obviously doesn’t get it.

[Tybee]

I literally laughed out loud when the language prompt popped up just as Eddie was about to let fly with a string of expletives. I loved everything about the demo (gotta love those menus!), but that alone sold me on the game.

I'm a Tim Schafer fan from way back and appreciate his design sensibility, but I don't think you have to be a fan to enjoy this game.

[bardockkun]

Edit this, you mean Dark Angel fame ; )
Sorry, I usually think Testament with Gene Hoglan eventhough he was in it for like...a year or less? Though he is with Fear Factory too if I remember right.

[Koggit]

After hearing CAGs rave about this game I was excited to go play the demo... only to find out it's restricted to people who let MS extort them with LIVE Gold fees. I really hate Microsoft sometimes...

[Guerrilla]

Perhaps I'm a little bias as a Tim Schafer fan, but the demo was one of the best I've played in a while (Batman being the other). It's a perfect mix of story and gameplay-- though I wish I could demo the RTS mode.

[erectiontown]

sorry, i usually think testament with gene hoglan eventhough he was in it for like...a year or less? Though he is with fear factory too if i remember right.
death

[bardockkun]

I Think I added that to my original post earlier as well. Gene Hoglan, lot of bands.

[n4styn4t3]

After hearing CAGs rave about this game I was excited to go play the demo... only to find out it's restricted to people who let MS extort them with LIVE Gold fees. I really hate Microsoft sometimes...

2.50 a month isn't even considered extortion by the bum that sleeps on my local park bench.

[bs000]

After hearing CAGs rave about this game I was excited to go play the demo... only to find out it's restricted to people who let MS extort them with LIVE Gold fees. I really hate Microsoft sometimes...

You can't wait 7 days? D:

[Koggit]

You can't wait 7 days? D:
Ah, I didn't know it'd be available later. I'm in no rush.

[KaneRobot]

Ok, Diamond Head and Testament (!!) on the title screen just guaranteed I'm buying this, even if it's not at launch. And I haven't even played it yet.

*Edit* Finished the demo. Good game but I'm not sure it'll be worth 60 bucks, I could see some repetition setting in. I have a feeling a 40 dollar deal will pop up between now and Xmas though, I'll get it then.


In regards to the Gene Hoglan thing a page or two back, I usually think of him as a Strapping Young Lad guy, although Testament is in there too despite having only been on board for one album. Hell, I used to think of him as an Old Man's Child guy even though he was only on one album and they spelled his name "Hogland" on the booklet :lol:

[Kamelot]

I have to check this out. It'll probably be a rental.

[thrustbucket]

I may only be able to afford one game this season. I'm thinking this or CoD. I don't know what to do.

[erectiontown]

Ok, Diamond Head and Testament (!!) on the title screen just guaranteed I'm buying this, even if it's not at launch. And I haven't even played it yet.

*Edit* Finished the demo. Good game but I'm not sure it'll be worth 60 bucks, I could see some repetition setting in. I have a feeling a 40 dollar deal will pop up between now and Xmas though, I'll get it then.


In regards to the Gene Hoglan thing a page or two back, I usually think of him as a Strapping Young Lad guy, although Testament is in there too despite having only been on board for one album. Hell, I used to think of him as an Old Man's Child guy even though he was only on one album and they spelled his name "Hogland" on the booklet :lol:hahaha i remember that. i always associate him with the two Death albums he was on, as i think that was his best work.

[Raconteur]

Adding this to the must buy games.
Definitely not GOTY, but it seems like a classic in the making. Good music, fun gameplay, entertaining story and characters, good devs, voice actors....what's not to like?

[erectiontown]

not GOTY, but GOTF

*F = FOREVER

[dannyc]

Will be playing the demo once it gets off Gold.

I really want to like this game.

[ChernobylCow]

Dude, just watched Giantbomb's quicklook... looks great. So charming. But why do I feel like I don't want to buy it release day? Maybe I'll just wait for the $40 like I did with the Batmanz

[tcrash247]

Just tried this today and it awesome, I cannot wait for this to come out. Right when Children of the Grave kicked in, I knew I was in for a treat. Props to the design team for the Mastodon with Iron Tusks boss battle.

[Rocko]

I may only be able to afford one game this season. I'm thinking this or CoD. I don't know what to do.
You will get infinitely more playtime from Call of Duty. And for someone who can only afford one game, I'd imagine that's quite important.

[Matt Young]

The game was barely on my radar till I played the demo. I mean, the concept sounded cool, but so many big releases are coming out and I have such a backlog anyway... But hell, if I can affordd to partake in the TRU sale, this will be one of my 3 games.

[dannyc]

Demo was lotsa lulz... but it did feel very repetitive after a while. I'll look at the reviews for this one

[Mindzeye82]

This feels like a game I would rather watch than play. The dialogue is very funny, but the combat feels unbelievably stiff and the driving a little too simplistic. After wrapping up MUA and Batman: AA, both of which have interesting combat systems that are the primary focus of the game, I found BL's gameplay really weak (for the demo). I can't help but feel they spent a lot of time trying to get all these different elements in the game (melee, driving, RTS, etc.), which led to each feature being a bit substandard.

Now I need to find a third game for my TRU B2G1 as I think I'm gonna wait for the price drop.

[J7.]

Here is the list of stores doing Midnight Openings at GS. On Monday, October 12th, over 800 GameStop stores will be open starting at 10pm. You can order online and do instore pickup. http://www.gamestop.com/gs/content/BrutalLegendUncharted2_Midnight.pdf

Sorry if might have been already mentioned, I don't follow this thread.

[Achuba Nanoia]

Wow, this game is a must buy for me! I just finished played the demo and man, I don't remember ever laughing so hard in a game before. It's just pure awesome! This game is going to rock hard!

Highly recommended for everybody to pick up the demo.

[willardhaven]

The demo is pretty fun, I'll pick it up one day if it's under $25. It really surprised me with tight controls and fun magic/combat.

[DocRamon]

just got the Six Degrees of Schafer achievement today... i can't imagine it'll be that difficult to get, eventually, but if anyone's after it when the game comes out, lemme know... i'd be happy to assist

[budz]

I'm curious about when a CAG gamerclan for this game is coming out. PM me if we're forming one!

[Nelo Ice]

brutal legend got a 9 from ign!
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033952p1.html

[deszaras]

Tomorrow can't get here soon enough.

[Cleaner7]

Played this demo a day ago and it ROCKED! I love Double Fine but am not a big metal fan and Jack Black is likable but I haven't seen him doing anything to really impress me... until now! Loved the humor in the demo and can't wait to play more. I'll definitely pick this up when it is cheaper down the road. Don't have money to spare and my trade credit is already going to the other big games this holiday season.

[WormFOODx]

I just got mine through UPS from EA.com. I preordered this when Best Buy did the insane $10 Sims cards for $5 and games shipped for free. I didn't expect EA to ship to where I got it before the stores did.

This also makes me happy for my Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 preorders on EA.com.

[Richlough]

I need [want really super bad] a Tenacious D guitar/axe code .
If anyone gets an extra or has a cool GameStop they go to .

I pre-ordered at Best Buy because of the $10 gift card offer and cool album cover package .

I can't afford to shop at GameStop if I can get something on sale .

[Razzuel]

What the hell! I didn't know there was a Tenacious D guitar preorder exclusive. Ugh, fucking stupid preorder exclusives. I really wish they would stop this crap.

Looks like I am missing out on this since I ordered Brutal Legend as one of my games in Toys R Us' B2G1 sale. Dammit, and I am a huge Tenacious D fan. :cry:

If anyone has any extra codes, then can I be second in line? :D

[mcgavin27]

I played the demo and man do I want to pick up this game tomorrow. Eh, now just to find the money for it.

[bardockkun]

And of course due tomorrow and my 360 E74's.

[Arkanos]

Looking to snag a Xbox 360 Tenacious D code as well if anyone has any extras, thanks!

Sasquatch thanks you as well!

[evildeadjedi]

Just like the Metal music inspired by it this is the game that refused to die(remember first hearing about it two or three years ago). I really hope the IGN review is accurate cause the concept of this game is awesome! Plus when it comes to a role about music Jack Black is awesome! Tim Schaefer may finally get the aaa title he deserves!

[Scorch]

Okay, what the hell? I'm hearing that this game has a lot of RTS style gameplay in it.. Please keep in mind that I have not read any previews or anything on the game, I have only played the demo.

I found this on another forum:

A good chunk of the single player campaign are 'Stage Battles', which are the RTS elements to the game that completely came out of left field for me personally. You have a main stage, which is sort of the home base in RTS, that you have to protect. Basically it's your standard RTS affair with units, giving commands, building resource centers, etc.

You start off with just the stage and must play guitar solos on 'fan geysers' which are the unit building centers. You have a ground unit, ranged attack unit, vehicles, healers, etc. Basically you have a main objective in each scenario whether it be to defend an area or break down a gate to the enemies base. You are still able to control Eddie and attack on your own though while giving commands. It's not as deep as say Age of Empires or C&C, but for me since I really hate RTS games, it really killed the game for me personally.

You can't just hack n slash your way through these stages either in 5 minutes as the enemies will just overcome you in numbers. Perhaps this is possible on 'Normal' but definitely not on 'Brutal' difficulty....and even if it was possible to beat these horde of enemies with just Eddie, then the point of 'Stage Battles' was stupid to begin with.

I was hoping they weren't such a big deal but apparently they are as I have already done 3 of them. I'm thinking of just quitting right now as I really hate those stage battles so much.

and from the IGN AU review

"... while you certainly do hack, slash and blast your way around the
massive open world, Riggs gets to test his leadership skills in the
second major gameplay element: real-time strategy. Yep – a significant
portion of this game puts you in the commander's Doc Martins, waging
war against the forces of glam and goth-rock from your concert stage;
fans fuel your army's units – and the units themselves are headbangers,
groupies, bikies and roadies...

We suppose that the coating of action over the top of this
strategy backbone might well be intimidating for anyone not familiar
with the basics of resource management; however, by utilising the heavy
metal setting, Brütal Legend sets up a great analogy for battle: two
warring stages, fans as resources, merch stands for storing those fans
and units pulled from everyday music culture. It's a genius analogy –
and one that demystifies the RTS genre for your casual player.

If it's all too much to get your head around, then Eddie Riggs can
be guided into battle on-foot (on wings, on wheels and on speaker
stacks), where you get your hands dirty, soloing to melt faces and
boost morale, plunging along through the horde of evil with your axe
(both of them, actually) in hand. Essentially, if you want to, Brütal
Legend allows you to do the bare minimum of real-time strategizing. "

I really, really detest RTS games, so this game just went from an absolute must-buy to a maybe-rent. Man, the demo was so misleading. Way to screw the pooch, Tim.

[thrustbucket]

RTS elements made the game go from renter to must-buy tomorrow, for me.

[IOnceWasLegend]

Normally I hate RTS on console, buuuut...I have to say I like the squad-based combat in this. Nothing quite like forming a mosh pit around yourself and kicking *** in battle.

[FrankySox]

Okay, what the hell? I'm hearing that this game has a lot of RTS style gameplay in it.. Please keep in mind that I have not read any previews or anything on the game, I have only played the demo.

I found this on another forum:



and from the IGN AU review



I really, really detest RTS games, so this game just went from an absolute must-buy to a maybe-rent. Man, the demo was so misleading. Way to screw the pooch, Tim.


Yeah, I was reading some reviews and this came out of nowhere for me. I was going to pick it up at TRU in the B2G1 sale but not now. Going through the demo I was surprised this didn't come up, especially if it's such a big part of the game as your above quotes state as well as what I've read. I guess I'll have to start reading previews, RTS just seems out of place here, but I'm not going to say it doesn't work since I haven't played it. I'll probably still pick it up sometime if it's cheap.


Ehh, time to find another game to get at TRU now.

[Nelo Ice]

its more action with rts elements think overlord or pikmin
and from the eurogamer review(gave it an 8 btw)

Yet the whole thing scales very well: even when you're commanding the troops and orchestrating a tank-rush, you can still drop back down to earth and get into close-up lamping, or summon the Deuce to run over your enemy's advancing guard.Even ignoring such options, over the course of the game I went from ambivalence regarding the RTS interludes to actually looking forward to them, which is handy for me as they also represent the game's online mode, with Stage Battles allowing you to pick from a limited range of factions and take on rival rock generals around the world.

If they do continue to leave you cold, the more strategic side of the game is rarely actually frustrating. Nothing in Brutal Legend is, really, partly because each task is generally over and done with before you have a chance to become irritated, and then you're off to try your hand at something else. Eddie Riggs is not the star of a particularly lengthy adventure - if you really must, you can plough straight through the main campaign quite comfortably in about eight hours, but I wouldn't recommend it: this is a game to linger over, and its side-quests, although formulaic, are generally not to be missed.

i have the game and its pretty simple u just get ur troops tell em to attack defend follow etc and the game eases u through it mission by mission
also its awesome controlling ur army and using the double team attacks(i havent gotten to full stage battles yet btw)

[mercilessming]

To all those playing it in the last day or two, how short does it feel, not in a speed run aspect? IGN who doesn't really know how to give bad reviews to any game with a budget did have a comment about it being short, which frightens me coming from IGN.....I don't try to rush through a game but I do not want to pay ~60$ for ~8 hour game no matter how great the story is....


*** Sorry just read the quote above me about it being an eight hour game

[thrustbucket]

The quote Neo Ice just posted above you said that it can be finished in 8 hours if you rush it but they don't recommend rushing it.

[crunchewy]

The demo was entertaining enough, though was really easy. I'm not even good at these type of games and I blew through it. The "boss" was pretty much a joke. Actually, I hadn't the slightest idea whether or not I had taken any damage at all - I didn't see any obvious damage meter or whatever. I did seem to get hit, but it seemed to have no effect. I presume I was just missing it. In any case it didn't matter as I went through it without dying.

I have a hard time justifying $60 for any game, and this one is no exception. The demo was fun, sure, but not really that great. I'm not a fan of the music, but it is right for this game's style. It works. The humor wasn't anything special - all stuff we've seen before a thousand times over. I can see buying it at some point, but probably closer to $30 for me.

[Nelo Ice]

the game does seem fairly short if ur rushing through the main quests(im already at like 30% from doin like 3-5 missions) but like eurogamer said the world is defeinetely worth exploring and finding all the collectibles is pretty fun in between missions

also i just did my 1st stage battle and it was pretty simple recruit the troops u want then just tell them to attack the enemy and u join in directly to fight as well

[FrankySox]

Actually, I hadn't the slightest idea whether or not I had taken any damage at all - I didn't see any obvious damage meter or whatever. I did seem to get hit, but it seemed to have no effect. I presume I was just missing it. In any case it didn't matter as I went through it without dying.


This is also something I was wondering. I got hit a couple of times but I never saw any indicator telling me how much damage I had taken. Could someone explain how this works? Is it possible to die?

[Nelo Ice]

This is also something I was wondering. I got hit a couple of times but I never saw any indicator telling me how much damage I had taken. Could someone explain how this works? Is it possible to die?

yep u can die ur screen starts turning red eddie starts becoming all bloodied up and if theres music playing it starts fading and sounds like its coming from a bad signal

[Galego23]

has anyone had a chance to try the on-line yet?

[Richlough]

I have a Rock Band track pack DLC code to trade for the Tenacious D guitar/axe code .

I haven't really started the game yet , but I really liked the intro .
I think it's cool that it was live action .

[thrustbucket]

Played about 30 minutes. Awesome soundtrack. Love it so far.

[bardockkun]

Playing the game, loving it and just found Brian Posehn!:lol:

[mercilessming]

I went ahead and bought the game since my TRU didn't have Fall Out 3 GOTY. It isn't awful but not the greatest game I thought it was supposed to be. The soundtrack in the deuce is some awesome metal, Ozzy's role is very repetitive so far, Awesome to have Lemmy in a game (trick question "Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?" LOL ha haha), to bad Slayer doesn't make an appearance, a Raining Blood power would be awesome, the game having a Real Metal Music feel and comedy is the only things making it rank with me, else for button mashers Conan and Wolverine were better. I am playing on brutal taking my time, I am feeling as soon as I beat it, I'll ebay it.

** Didn't want to scare potential buyers of the game away, Support Metal anyway possible... it is a quality game just follows alot of the way games seem to be more I hate to say casual so I will say easy and "OPEN WORLD"

Visual Quality = 10;
Playablity = 7;
re-playablity = 2;
SoundTrack= "AWESOME";

[cgarb84]

Really want this game but I am forcing myself to wait for a deal on it. Plus I just have too much to play right now with a whole lot more coming out soon. But I am really looking forward to the day when I do pick this up.

[gareman]

Really want this game but I am forcing myself to wait for a deal on it. Plus I just have too much to play right now with a whole lot more coming out soon. But I am really looking forward to the day when I do pick this up.


In the same boat after buying Ghostbusters this past summer at full price and beating it in two days and being disappointed with myself for having spent 60 bucks....the Brutal Legend reviews sound too similar. "8 hour game, really great script and funny, but gameplay is somewhat lacking." A good/funny script I realize cannot justify a 60 dollar purchase of an 8 hour game that does not have really good gameplay to go along with it.

With that said can't wait to pick this up in a couple of months when its on sale at Target for 38 bucks.

[thrustbucket]

It is longer than 8 hours if you do a lot of the side quests.

Granted, I spent 35 hours on Mass Effect before finishing it. It can be finished in 12 if you ignore sidequests. I spent 25 hours on Fallout 3 before even starting the main quest.

[Conboy]

I got this for $30 on the Best Buy Buy 1 get 1 50% deal from a while back, so not that worried about how long it is. Looks good, music is rockin' voice acting is top notch. It's a little easy getting lost even with the map as you don;t necessarily need the roads to get to a certain point. The RTS elements are OK so far, just completed the Mine Mission, met Ozzy, and am now exploring for side quests.

[evildeadjedi]

Because I'm broke I rented instead of buying. I have done around 5 of the main quests so far, and around 9 of the side ones. The soundtrack is awesome; have not felt the urge to skip any of the songs (a first for me in an open world game)! The cameos have been great and I really like exploring the world to find new abilities and get fire tributes from the gods of metal. I hope that there is more variety to the side quests though(did 4 of the ambush ones). Overall, I think I will buy this game once I have the funds.

[Superfro33]

I made the decision to rent over purchase, as I'm waiting to see the reception of Borderlands next week. The game looks and sounds pretty great. I noticed a few choppy framerate moments, but didn't get hung up on them too bad. The side stuff is defiintely a bit too repeatative, but the main storyline is so entertaining that I'm having a good time thus far. (Although I think I'll be glad I rented as it does seem like it'll be on the short side.)

[pat87]

Yea, I'm a little underwhelmed after playing the demo. While the demo was short, it was heavy on humor, and quite frankly, the humor has started to fade away. I've played through several missions so far, and I'm agreeing with some of the lower scored reviews. Jack of all trades, master of none.

I don't know, I've been expecting more, but so far I'm a little disappointed. That might change once I get further and give MP a crack, but we'll see. I'm glad I'm renting right now (gamefly rocks)

[Vulcan2422]

I think I will be doing some side quests to make this game last longer. So far I love it. Awesome Storyline, cool gameplay, sorta has a Freedom Fighters feel to it with the Head Bangers. I think when it drops to 30, I will buy for sure!!

[ubernes]

I'm about 50% through the game now. The RTS definitely doesn't feel out of place for me, but I still preferred the hack & slash that was more heavily relied on earlier in the game. It just feels weird running around giving orders when you just want to take a battle axe to someone's head.

The storyline/environment is obviously the biggest sell here. If you could consider yourself a metalhead and/or a Jack Black fanboy then this is a no-brainer even for $60. I assume most people who fall under that category already bought it though. As for the rest of us, I would say for $30 this is a must-have and I wouldn't mind paying $40 for it. It's pretty much Zelda with a guitar. Very similar gameplay elements with the hacking & slashing, and especially with the use of guitar solos (like the ocarina) to perform larger commands (opening parts of the world and performing a "face melting solo" which literally melts the faces off opponents, amongst other things).

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: the soundtrack is amazing. I don't think I loved a soundtrack for a game this much since Vice City. It is that good and fits that well. I'm not even a regular listener of metal either, but it just feels right as your riding around in your hotrod and dismantling baddies. Also, despite not being a superfan of any of the characters modeled after notable metal band members Ozzy, Motorhead, Judist Priest, there's still a lot of "OH HELL YES" coming from me when they first make their cameos.

Oh and one last note about the side quests: they are sort of annoying. I haven't gotten the achievement for doing 20 of them so I guess I haven't done a ton (I must be close though), but already it's more of a chore than anything else. And you do need to do them. Or maybe just spend your money more wisely than I did (those statues and paint jobs were too tempting!). But I did find myself looking at my cash flow and realizing I was a bit underequipped to be facing whatever line of baddies I was facing at the time, and my reaction was "ugh, off to race" or "off to ambush."

Oh oh! Speaking of "line of baddies." Not sure if this a big spoiler (I doubt the one above is either) but: GLAM ROCKERS! What perfect guys to face off against your metal army. It also makes for some hilarious dialogue as you can imagine. The group after the glam rockers are also fitting. I'm guessing they would be considered Goths? They are sort of like this Goth/Emo mix, but I just love that you're battling genres especially given the real music history of Glam Rock vs Metal. Does anyone know any real riff between Metal and Goth/Emo music scenes besides the obvious "Our music is badass and awesome while yours is whinny and gloomy so let's fight!"? Trying to think music history speaking. Ok, I think I'm finally done. :)

[thrustbucket]

I am holding off the MP until I get further in the campaign to avoid character spoilers, but I hear MP is quite fun if you don't view it as an RTS.

Tim Schafer just wrote an open letter on their community site explaining how to maximize fun out of the multiplayer and the stage battles. Lots of interesting information, and it gets me psyched to play MP:


It is a historical fact that it began its life as an RTS game, inspired by Herzog Zwei. But then as we worked on it we simplified it, and simplified it, and focused it more and more on the player avatar and the combat. Every time we focused the gameplay on the action, it became more fun. The end result is something much more action-oriented, and I think, totally unique. If you try to play the stage battles in Brütal Legend as an RTS game then you will lose. First you will get mad, then you will scream, and then you will lose. But if you are open to a new kind of action experience, you will have a blast.

First, a note on the differences: In an RTS game you float high above the action, making one split-second strategic decision after another. You often command individual units to position them based on their heath and context. In Brütal Legend, you make strategic choices once in a while, but then you jump into the battle and slug it out in person. You can fly, but it's mostly for quick scouting and transportation. You will spend a few seconds every once in a while popping into a menu to build troops or pick a guitar solo, but then you should be right back in the action. To play the game most effectively you need to be on the ground with your army most of the time, mixing it up with your axe, and your guitar, but most of all-using your Double Team attacks.

Double Team attacks are critical to your success in Stage Battles. Every friendly unit in your army has a move that they can only perform in conjunction with the player character. These moves are extremely varied, extremely powerful, and extremely fun to perform. Sometimes you might simply gain control that unit's weapon-for instance, when a Razor Girl jumps up on your shoulders-but when you do so you increase it's damage significantly. Other units, like the Bride, seem to be just passive, debuffing units most of the time (the Bride slows down enemy units) but when you Double Team with her she has a devastating lighting attack. More complicated Double Teams include the Frightwig, who Ophelia can pick up and throw onto an enemy unit. The Frightwig then wraps itself around the enemy's head and causes the victim to join Ophelia's side in the battle. (You can even use this to commandeer the enemy's Rock Crusher!) The Organist is another passive unit whose Double Team attack allows you to gain direct player control over an enemy unit, giving you command over whatever attacks they normally have.

There are important strategic choices to make in Stage Battles. Should I spend my fans to upgrade my stage and gain access to more powerful units, or should I spend it now on cheap infantry? Which fan geysers should I fight for and which should I concede? What is the right time to block my enemies troop production with a Rock Block solo? Would anti-infantry units be better against the current enemy army, or should I switch to anti-vehicle? But these strategic decisions only take a second, and then you should get right back in the action. You should never be up in the air or away from the battle for too long.

Some people find it hard to split up the army and give individual orders to individual troops. This is kinda true, mostly because you shouldn't be doing it! That's how you play an RTS game, not how you should play Brütal Legend. True, there are times where you might want to split your army, but it's not common. I play complete Stage Battles most of the time without issuing a single Individual order. Your army is most effective when it's together. The AI automatically groups your warriors into battle formations where the troops support each other. Many of the units buff or heal each other. When they are together they can all be enhanced with a single Battle Cry (or other buffing) solo. And when they are all together and you are in the middle of them, that is when you have the greatest number of options for Double Team attacks.

So to summarize my advice for playing Brütal Legend Stage Battles:
Get in the center of the action!
Use Double Team attacks!
Don't stay in the air too long!
Use Double Team attacks!!
For the most part, keep your army together!
Use Double Team attacks!!!
Don't think of it as an RTS game!

If you have tried the Stage Battles before reading these tips, and felt overwhelmed by the controls, or frustrated with the lack of detailed troop controls, I'm hoping you will be able to take this info and go back into the fray and be much more successful. We know that the Stage Battles are tons of fun for most players-and for people who are open to new kinds of action gameplay experiences, they are in fact the core of what makes Brütal Legend a fun game experience and unlike any other. I'll see you online!

-TimOfLegend (that's my name on both XBL and PSN. Play against me and you'll get an achievement!)

P.S. Here are some more tips from our Lead Designer, Erik Robson:

General Tips
*Early in the game, low-level troops are vulnerable to enemy Avatar harassment; make sure you watch over them and protect them if necessary.
*USE YOUR DOUBLE TEAMS!
*Don't play timidly. The game is about projecting power and taking control of territory. If you try to play defensively and stay in or near your base, you'll be at a resource disadvantage.
*If you set the beacon on a building, your dudes will attack the building until it's destroyed, ignoring any incoming attacks.
*The right solo played at the right time can be devastating - don't forget you have those tools at your disposal!

Ironheade Tips
*Ironheade is extremely mobile - use this to your advantage.
*Razor Girls' Double Team is great for dealing with early-game Avatar harassment.
*Remember that you can upgrade your level 1 troops once your stage hits level 3. If you've spent the game massing up those small infantry, an upgrade can really pay off.

Drowning Doom Tips
*Gravediggers, while more numerous, have lower health than other basic melee troops. They may need extra support in the early game.
*Use your debuffers (Bride, Organ, and Dirgible). They're powerful, and the Bride and Organ stack their debilitating effects.
*Bride's Double Team is great for dealing with early-game Avatar harassment.
*Remember that you can upgrade your level 1 troops once your stage hits level 3. If you've spent the game massing up those small infantry, an upgrade can really pay off.

Tainted Coil Tips
*Your hierarchy units (Nuns, Warfather, and Overblessers) are extremely vulnerable while alone. They're much safer when they're surrounded by minions, because they get a small stacking healing bonus from each nearby minion.
*Punishing Parties' Double Team is good for dealing with early-game Avatar harassment.
*Remember your Superior and Divine troops - for example, if you build a Warfather, he can then build a Superior Nun, which in turn can produce Superior Soul Kissers and Punishing Parties. Superior and Divine squads are more powerful than the basic troops, but cost the same!

BTW, I just added Tim to my friends list. Apparently it is not full.

[bardockkun]

Wow, this game found a way for me not to be annoyed by Through the Fire and Flame.

[Arkanos]

Looking for a 360 Guitar Code, if anyone has one they'd like to spare. I'm putting a 1 month Live subscription up to trade for it.

[thrustbucket]

Can anyone give me any tips on the first escort mission with the tour bus? I did it like 10 times and it keeps getting destroyed, granted I am playing on brutal setting, but I don't want to change difficulty and lose achievements.

[ubernes]

Can anyone give me any tips on the first escort mission with the tour bus? I did it like 10 times and it keeps getting destroyed, granted I am playing on brutal setting, but I don't want to change difficulty and lose achievements.

This may be a stupid suggestion, but: I assume you have the mounted machine gun on Deuce? I don't recall it 100%, but I don't remember having even the slightest bit of trouble on Normal so I assume if you have at least some worthwhile weapon you should be fine.

[Vulcan2422]

Well, this game has pushed me to the limit today. I was really really liking it alot. Untill the RTS crap comes up and it literally makes me not want to play this game. It seems as if I keep getting my ass handed to me by Ophelia. I can just imagine how Dovaricus or how ever his is spelled is for the RTS battle. So I am done with this game and it is now going back cause of this stupid RTS battle

[mercilessming]

This may be a stupid suggestion, but: I assume you have the mounted machine gun on Deuce? I don't recall it 100%, but I don't remember having even the slightest bit of trouble on Normal so I assume if you have at least some worthwhile weapon you should be fine.

Also don't drive up to close on the bus hang back to get the lock on the baddies..........

[mercilessming]

Well, this game has pushed me to the limit today. I was really really liking it alot. Untill the RTS crap comes up and it literally makes me not want to play this game. It seems as if I keep getting my ass handed to me by Ophelia. I can just imagine how Dovaricus or how ever his is spelled is for the RTS battle. So I am done with this game and it is now going back cause of this stupid RTS battle

Yes Yes along with other problems I have with the game the last battle with all the RTS crap is annoying...

[ubernes]

Well, this game has pushed me to the limit today. I was really really liking it alot. Untill the RTS crap comes up and it literally makes me not want to play this game. It seems as if I keep getting my ass handed to me by Ophelia. I can just imagine how Dovaricus or how ever his is spelled is for the RTS battle. So I am done with this game and it is now going back cause of this stupid RTS battle

That's where I was last night and I was like, really? What else do I need to do? I don't even know how I won. I was pretty much at the same place I was when I died the previous time and BRUTAL VICTORY shows up. I wasn't going to complain though.

This probably isn't even the last battle with [blank] either for me, so I look forward to another frustrating one.

[Vulcan2422]

Well, just as you guys said then....It's going back to blockbuster. Don't get me wrong, SOME of the RTS battles are cool.....when you actually have a chance at winning them. But the one I posted up, It seems impossible honestly. Shame too cause I wanna freaking know the story behind it. But not so that it gives me game rage.

[pat87]

Well, this game has pushed me to the limit today. I was really really liking it alot. Untill the RTS crap comes up and it literally makes me not want to play this game. It seems as if I keep getting my ass handed to me by Ophelia. I can just imagine how Dovaricus or how ever his is spelled is for the RTS battle. So I am done with this game and it is now going back cause of this stupid RTS battle

I felt the exact same way. I thought the game was fairly good (it had it's ups and downs), but once I got to all the RTS crap, I stopped and sent it back to Gamefly.

I like RTS games, but it's just not that great here. It's hard to differentiate who is your people and who is your enemy. The controls suck...etc. I loved the demo, and I was highly considering buying the game, but I'm glad I didn't.

[$hady]

Don't give up the ending is pretty cool and you guys are right at the end.
You do rts battle with ophelia then straight to another with the last guy and then a quick normal battle and your done. I agree that it's retarded and misplaced but it's not that bad on normal difficulty. Her battle is worse than his and the bridge was tricky with all the waves but just make sure you upgrade your stage right away and get the rockcrusher. You can rape with that while your army does the rest for you. Also facemelter is your friend just swoop in do it and get out while your guys fight.



I'd say it's a solid rental, nothing spectacular but fun mostly. I only got 52% completion and 235 achievement points lol I hate collecting shit and have no interest in the online.

[mercilessming]

yeah I beat this turd, LOL (only call it that because it wasn't the God of war/Conan kinda game I was hoping for but with HEAVY METAL) yeah story is cool and all, but the aimless repetitive side mission open world stuff grates on my nerves... Sunday it is going on ebay, unless someone here wants to make a trade or buy my pristine copy.

[Nelo Ice]

brutal legend multi is quite fun

[thrustbucket]

Yeah I don't get all the hate for the RTS stuff, it's really not that bad (once I switched to normal difficulty from brutal).

Awesome game.

[Sofa King Kool]

Bleh. I was all prepared to buy this until I found out about all this RTS nonsense. I like RTS's gameplay, but not when it's mixed with other gameplay. Oh well. I'll pick it up some day when it's cheap.

Poor Tim Schafer. This was likely going to be a flop anyway, but even the hardcore gamers are a little peeved with the gameplay...

[Nelo Ice]

Yeah I don't get all the hate for the RTS stuff, it's really not that bad (once I switched to normal difficulty from brutal).

Awesome game.

brutal wasnt even hard imo :lol:

also yeah the rts is really quite simple u just gotta stay with ur army and attack with them
u dont have to worry about splitting them telling them attack certain enemies or anything

[Rocko]

How do you do the secondary missions where you car is on a lift? I got a gun, but I can't seem to fire it, and I can't split my troops up so when I order them to attack one bunch of enemies, the other bunch attacks and destroys the lift.

[munch]

Press A.

[DukeEdwardI]

Think I'm over half way through the game. I just encountered the goth kids (Drowning Doom).

So far the game is a lot of fun. The RTS aspects aren't as intimidating and complicated as I thought they were going to be. Summon a rally flag and either keep it on you or plant it far up enough to keep the enemy from taking over your merch booth. Keep near your army and order an attack command every now and then and just help them beat the crap out of everybody.

Also, keep your army buffed with solos and if you can afford it, upgrade your stage and basic troops. Keep doing this and you'll eventually win.

But man, the Drowning Doom are ANNOYING to fight. They must have some crazy debuff to slow your attack speed or something. AND THEY JUST WON'T DIE. Feels like I haven't to continuously wail on those spider things for a minute to kill them.

[Mindzeye82]

Just wrapped up the single player and now going to mop up the rest of the achievements.

Overall, this game was pretty meh. It was horrid at the beginning as you learn to deal with all the 1/2 assed gameplay styles (no game needs driving, fighting, and RTS). After 1/2 way through, I learned to accommodate for the shitty gameplay and got through it pretty quickly. The RTS stuff is pretty weak - it basically breaks down to the 'build a giant army and send it in' style that was popular with warcraft 2, but has been replaced with games that actually involve strategy and unit management.

In keeping with that old school style of RTS, here is a tip for the people that are struggling with the RTS elements on Brutal difficulty. Get an upgraded thunderhog, 3-4 upgraded razor girls, and a rock crusher (fill out your ranks with fire barons and the flame dog things) and you can dominate the fuck out of anything. Razor girls upgraded en mass are super powerful and will let you rip apart anything the game throws at you. Also, use the battle flag solo and carry it around so all your new units come to you.

I beat the final battles with a rock crusher, 4 squads of razor girls, a thunder hog and some of those fire breathing things.

[munch]

How do you take out those guys that throw up? It seems they can destroy my entire army. I always die when I try to fight them.

[evildeadjedi]

Overall, I had fun with Brutal Legend and will eventually purchase(since I never finished the single player).

[jalu6]

I just finished the single player today and will probably spend the next few nights trying out the multi. If anyone wants to play a match and doesnt mind someone who is probably going to be terrible, add me.

[Nelo Ice]

anyone else play multi? i got the 50 win achievement earlier :bouncy:

[Strawberry Juice]

I tried the tutorial for multi and I thought it was pretty confusing. The RTS aspect kind of just hits you and comes out of nowhere which I didn't enjoy at all.

I had no interest in buying the game until I played the demo, and I got this game for "free" via trade-ins so I'm not to disappointed. This is a game you get for $30-40 when it drops in a month or two.

[thrustbucket]

I would not even attempt to play multi without playing through the campaign first. It slowly introduces you to units and what they do.

[deszaras]

I really looked forward to this game. I LOVE heavy metal and loved Psychonauts but after putting a few hours into the game, I feel really let down. I enjoyed RTS games on the PC but they just feel out of place in this game. The charm just isn't there like I thought it'd be. I'm going to end up selling this pretty quickly.

[thrustbucket]

Finally finished it. 12 hours. Great Game.

The fact that it has Savatage and Iced Earth helped make it extra awesome.

[Danimal]

I'm starting to think I'm not going to be able to finish this game. It kills me to say that, because this was one of my most anticipated games of this generation, just because it's a Tim Schafer game. I'm not even a heavy metal fan, but I love the world, the story, the dialogue, humor, voice acting, all of that is exactly what I expected: excellent.

The RTS stuff, though..... God, I HATE it. I don't play RTS games at all, have no interest in them, and the real stumbling block- I don't understand them. If it was just something I didn't enjoy doing, I could slog through to get to the parts of the game I like. But I just played the big battle in LionWhyte's arena for about a half-hour, confused the whole time about what I was supposed to be doing, where my troops were, why they sometimes seem to go where I point them and sometimes not (I know you need to be near them for them to hear you), etc. I died over and over again, and got to the point where I wanted to throw my controller through the screen. Not fun. I can't advance the story any further without completing this battle, and there are no more side missions for me to do at the moment. This sucks. I know, I know...... :-({|=

Just needed to vent a little. I feel a tiny bit better.

[ProggleRock]

I'm starting to think I'm not going to be able to finish this game. It kills me to say that, because this was one of my most anticipated games of this generation, just because it's a Tim Schafer game. I'm not even a heavy metal fan, but I love the world, the story, the dialogue, humor, voice acting, all of that is exactly what I expected: excellent.

The RTS stuff, though..... God, I HATE it. I don't play RTS games at all, have no interest in them, and the real stumbling block- I don't understand them. If it was just something I didn't enjoy doing, I could slog through to get to the parts of the game I like. But I just played the big battle in LionWhyte's arena for about a half-hour, confused the whole time about what I was supposed to be doing, where my troops were, why they sometimes seem to go where I point them and sometimes not (I know you need to be near them for them to hear you), etc. I died over and over again, and got to the point where I wanted to throw my controller through the screen. Not fun. I can't advance the story any further without completing this battle, and there are no more side missions for me to do at the moment. This sucks. I know, I know...... :-({|=

Just needed to vent a little. I feel a tiny bit better.

This might be able to help you out; it helped me. Basically, once you find the balance between commanding and hack 'n slashing, it becomes pretty easy. And I'm playing on the hardest setting (and I blow at RTS games).

http://www.doublefine.com/news/comments/battle_time/

[Danimal]

This might be able to help you out; it helped me. Basically, once you find the balance between commanding and hack 'n slashing, it becomes pretty easy. And I'm playing on the hardest setting (and I blow at RTS games).

http://www.doublefine.com/news/comments/battle_time/Reading through that, it sounds like a lot of the tips are things I was already doing, except for the part about not staying in the air outside of the battle a lot (I was usually doing that to try and get an idea where my troops were or where I was supposed to be going myself) Maybe I'll start to get the hang of it; I will read through that again before the next time I play. Thanks very much for the link, I definitely appreciate it.

[yukine]

There are only a handful of RTS campaign battles, so I wouldn't give up just yet. Use a guide (http://www.gamesradar.com/f/brutal-legend-motor-forge-and-solo-tablature-guide/a-20091013114352676019)and find some of the tab slabs scattered about to learn new guitar solos, specifically "Recall Flag" and "Rally Army," those two are immensely useful for the RTS parts.

I finished Brutal Legend recently, and I really enjoyed it. I liked the RTS parts and didn't find them bothersome at all, the only complaints I have with the game is the lack of variety with the side quests, and that it's also a bit on the short side.

[Chroma914]

So I am really not feeling the RTS elements of this game and I'm looking to get rid of it. I purchased it last week from the Best Buy buy 2, get 1 free deal, and I know I can't go back in the store and swap it out for a different game at this point. So, fellow CAGrs, what are my options? Am I just limited to trade in's or Ebaying it?

[advanced]

After discovering I had no "current" game to play, my brother in law offered to loan me this while he's busy with Tekken 6. I wanted to get it back to him ASAP, so I was curious as to how long most people took to finish the game. Is Brutal difficulty unlocked from the start? How much harder is Brutal than Normal difficulty?

[Techsticles]

So I'm near the end of the game and I'm stuck. Can anyone help me out?
I'm at the fight that takes place right after Ophelia reads her little poem. I know it's one of the last fights of the game, but I'm stuck.

I destroy the 2 towers on the bridge and I can't seem to get a single minion across it to start taking out Ophelia's stage. They have this tree thing and a hot air balloon that just keeps annihilating my guys. The tree in particular keeps raping them Evil Dead style.

[archibishopthedoge]

Enjoying the game for what it is. The music is great. The art is great.

I cannot stand the whole armies RTS aspect though. I think its an interesting meld with a hack and slash style of game, but I dont think the execution is all that good in regards to that particular mechanic.

I rented it and am glad it was not purchased.

[Techsticles]

So I'm near the end of the game and I'm stuck. Can anyone help me out?
I'm at the fight that takes place right after Ophelia reads her little poem. I know it's one of the last fights of the game, but I'm stuck.

I destroy the 2 towers on the bridge and I can't seem to get a single minion across it to start taking out Ophelia's stage. They have this tree thing and a hot air balloon that just keeps annihilating my guys. The tree in particular keeps raping them Evil Dead style.
Beat it this weekend. My fault was not using the big level 3 vehicle with the lighting sword attack to take out all the enemies in front of the two towers first.

The soundtrack is pretty epic and the only reason this game would be worth $60. It's fun, but it's short and online multiplayer is dead before it ever really began.

[Lord Darkstorn]

It's a great game. I just don't think it would be nearly as interesting if it were a straight hack n' slash game - the RTS elements make the game feel original and unique.

[pinebarrens]

Finished it last night. I enjoyed it but I liked Psychonauts more. The RTS stuff got on my nerves a little bit.

I just tried multiplayer and got obliterated every time. So much for getting matched up with someone who is your skill level. I would enjoy it if I could win maybe 20% of the time.