Gold & Silver Remake Confirmed!!!!! Updated OP with new info!!!

[SL4IN]

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/info/img/2009_05/g090508_01-pic01.jpg

Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver
Release Date:
September 12, 2009 (Japan)
TBA 2010 (U.S.)

From Bublanews (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month )

Several have revealed that the announcement of a major, popularly-discussed Pokémon game will be made later this month. Pokémon Sunday (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Sunday) is set to unveil the title May 10.
The show's official Web site describes the contents of next week's episode as "a worldwide first announcement and a worldwide first big scoop". The upcoming issues of CoroCoro (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro) and Dream, which are Japanese, have likewise been disclosed and are known to contain information regarding a "much-talked-about big title", although it is not directly stated that a Pokémon game is involved. Both magazine issues will be released after the airing of Pokémon Sunday.
Furthermore, the most recent episode previewed the annnouncement by showing two balls: one gold and one silver. Based on this as well as the fact that the game is said to have been the center of much speculation, many fans believe that the announcement will pertain to two titles: the Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver_remakes). It is also theorized that Junichi Masuda (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Junichi_Masuda) will appear (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month #)to make the announcement, since he did so both last month and the month prior in regard to other game-related scoops.
In a certain twist of events, poster Wii Will Rock U over at NeoGAF, said he's 99.9% sure that the games will indeed be a G/S remake for the DS, coming out in Fall of this year in Japan, and Spring 2010 here in the U.S.

I can confirm to you all that this announcement is indeed a Gold and Silver remake as I JUST heard news of it from my buddy in Treehouse who has known for a while and while I knew (and actually told through PM a few people on GAF) I feel as though now is as good of a time as any to let everyone know.

Release is Late 2009 Japan release, Spring 2010 America.

Also, expect an announcement soon after E3 of a new Wii based Pokemon game compatible with these new games as well as Platinum.
I for one, am very excited. Can't wait to get my hands on the Japanese import copies later this year, and then the U.S. versions next year.

Sources for official announcement and confirmation of remakes, in Japanese only unfortunately, but the remakes are only confirmed for a Fall 2009 release for Japan right now.

Link 1 (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html)
Link 2 (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20090507-00000019-oric-ent)

We learned on the 7th that "Pocket Monsters Gold and Silver," the second entry in the popular RPG series, originally released on the Gameboy system in November of 1999, will be remade for the Nintendo DS this autumn under the titles "HeartGold" and "SoulSilver." New elements will be added in this tenth anniversary return to the Johto Region.

A continuation of the original series (Pocket Monsters Red, Green, Blue, and Pikachu), Gold and Silver recorded remarkable sales of 23,000,000 copies worldwide. It introduced monsters that hadn't appeared in the gameboy games, along with various new features.

Red and Green, the first games of the Pokemon series, were remade for the Gameboy Advance in 2004 as "Fire Red and Leaf Green," making this the second set of remakes. While Red and Green had fantastic upgrades in their transition from Gameboy to Gameboy Advance, this time the games are skipping the Gameboy Advance and going directly from Gameboy to DS. So they will almost certainly have drastically upgraded graphics and sound. Details will be released on the official site shortly.

Currently in development for the Nintendo DS are the newest entries in the Pokemon series: "Pocket Monsters HeartGold and SoulSilver." Taking place in the Johto region, the games will be upgraded with all of the series' current features and will also be paced with brand new features. This year marks the tenth anniversary of "Pocket Monsters Gold and Silver's" release on the original gameboy, so its revival is only fitting. Since its release in 1999, the game has sold over 23,000,000 copies worldwide.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q

Link to full video trailer (http://pkstation.com/portada.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1241931603&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0G3BK4N1U

For even more detailed Heart Gold & Soul Silver info, be sure to check out Serebii.net (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Full index of in-game images that have been released can be found here (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml).

Pre-Orders have become available at Play-Asia.com. Link can be found here (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g-49-en-15-pokemon-70-3guk.html) and here (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g-77-1-49-en-15-pokemon-70-3guj.html).

I will update the OP as more information slowly becomes available.

Reminders
There are currently two Wi-Fi events coming to Heart Gold and Soul Silver in Japan.

The first is a Mew event, running from November 11th to November 23rd. The Mew will be at level 5 and have a Premier Ribbon attached. The Mew will also be available for Japanese Diamond, Pearl & Platinum users for download from January 29th to February 11th.

The second Wi-Fi event is for an Enigma Crystal, which releases Latios/Latias into the world in Heart Gold and Soul Silver. The event will be held over Wi-Fi from November 27th until January 11th.

[lilboo]

Ohh, Gold/Silver remake would be a very nice thing.

[Thongsy]

I would probably buy a DS again just for this.

[A Happy Panda]

Are the G/S games the one where if you beat the game, they let you go into the Kanto region and capture all the Pokemon from Red/Blue?

[Cao Cao]

As PokeBeach pointed out, this year (November 2009) marks the 10th anniversary of the Gold/Silver release in Japan, so a remake announcement would make the most sense.

Ohh, Gold/Silver remake would be a very nice thing.
Yes.

Are the G/S games the one where if you beat the game, they let you go into the Kanto region and capture all the Pokemon from Red/Blue?
Yes.

[Over easy]

Even though I don't care for the Pokemon games now, I will still get the G/S remake. I have such good memories with that game...

Or, the announcement would be R/B remake on the DS. That would be funny.

[A Happy Panda]

I really wish they would just make a Pokemon game that enabled you to capture every single Pokemon with a single cart. Just one. Like, make one ultimate Pokemon game that has all of the existing Pokemon up until now. Then for the next Pokemon series of games, make them exclusive again.

I always wanted the 3rd edition of the games to work like that (ie. Yellow has all Red/Blue Pokemons, Crystal has all Gold/Silver etc)

It won't happen because the whole point of making Pokemon exclusive to certain versions was to increase sales. But I could always hope.

Make it $60 I don't care. If it let me capture all 493 or whatever, sure.

[Skambu]

Oh! Oh! Maybe it's a completely unique Pokemon title!
Oh... wait.

[Nathan_Sama]

Im gonna laugh if its another spin off title lol
Somehow though, I feel the remake of G/S wont be as good as it originally was.

[xtreme_Zr2]

Awesome SL4IN. Since I managed to skip from Red/Blue to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, I can't wait.

[blackjaw]

Somehow though, I feel the remake of G/S wont be as good as it originally was.

/agree

[Nohbdy]

Well, this is a return to an old gen. They're going to have to pull out ALL of the stops here because there was not any Emerald/Platinum equivalent for Fire Red/Leaf Green.

Gold/Silver needs to have EVERYTHING in it. Game Freak only has one shot at it.

[Squarehard]

fun. but i wanna see some more before i decide if this is gonna be a good idea or not

[SuxoR]

I would say yes to this IF it doesn't come out full price

maybe reduced by a bit since it's been out already >:[

[Nohbdy]

I would say yes to this IF it doesn't come out full price


Surprise, it's coming out at only a buck less than full price!

...you're joking, right?

[KingBroly]

So...Pokemon Gold Dust and Pokemon Silver Lining, then?

[blackjaw]

because there was not any Emerald/Platinum equivalent for Fire Red/Leaf Green.


Pokémon Yellow begs to differ.

[Nohbdy]

Pokémon Yellow begs to differ.

Fire Red and Leaf Green.

Yellow never counted as a Crystal/Emerald/Platinum-style game. It was comissioned to follow the anime.

[antlp89]

Pokemon Yellow = awesome.

[whoknows]

That's kind of cool.

Gold/Silver were the best ones anyways.

Nintendo really should just give in and make a Pokemon MMO. It would pretty much be free money.

[KingBroly]

That's kind of cool.

Gold/Silver were the best ones anyways.

Nintendo really should just give in and make a Pokemon MMO. It would pretty much be free money.

I was thinking along the lines of a Pokemon/Monster Hunter type thing.

[BlindPete]

What I could see them maybe doing, is having new and extra pokemon to be catchable in your game through a dsi download. You pay 600 dsi points to unlock all the pokemon to be catchable from the other color of your game.

[mis0]

Holy crap. I cannot wait.

[Nohbdy]

What I could see them maybe doing, is having new and extra pokemon to be catchable in your game through a dsi download. You pay 600 dsi points to unlock all the pokemon to be catchable from the other color of your game.

You.

Stop posting this instant.

[Squarehard]

What I could see them maybe doing, is having new and extra pokemon to be catchable in your game through a dsi download. You pay 600 dsi points to unlock all the pokemon to be catchable from the other color of your game.

What a fantastic idea! Maybe you can also pay 1000 DSi points and you can create your own pokemon by fusing them together. Pikasaur, Bulba-lax, Squirnyx. YOURE A GENIUS!

:booty::booty::booty::booty:

[DarkNessBear]

Yes! I'm almost done with Pokemon Pearl. This would be very nice.

That's kind of cool.

Gold/Silver were the best ones anyways.

Nintendo really should just give in and make a Pokemon MMO. It would pretty much be free money.

Seriously that would be the best. I've always felt it would be cool if it looked like True Live Fantasy (the game that never came out) Cell Shaded to look like the TV shows (could look identical) and have it so there are wild pokemon roaming around, you click on them and it throws your pokemon and you are locked into the battle and it plays just like a regular battle. And you can have duels and be able to customize your pokemons with different colors ect.

Wow, I'm such a little boy. Haha.

[Nohbdy]

I'm goddamn waiting for polygonal Pokemon so they actually ANIMATE.

And none of that Colosseum/Battle Revolution cop-out bullshit.

[DarkNessBear]

I'm goddamn waiting for polygonal Pokemon so they actually ANIMATE.

And none of that Colosseum/Battle Revolution cop-out bullshit.
Yes, that would be cool. Or atleast better attack animations... and friggen Battle Revolution is still 50 bucks - I want to pick it up (to battle my GF) if it was maybe 10 dollars... Friggen pokemon prices never change.

[lilboo]

I'm excited if this is true. I never did play Gold or Silver. I played Blue and was in the right age for it..when Gold/Silver came out.. I was "too old" for Pokemanz and Ruby/Sapphire didn't appeal to me since I didn't play Gold/Silver :(
I did play the remake of Blue on GBA and really enjoyed it. Would love to finally play Gold/Silver..especially on a remake on the DS...

[blackjaw]

I'm excited if this is true. I never did play Gold or Silver. I played Blue and was in the right age for it..when Gold/Silver came out.. I was "too old" for Pokemanz and Ruby/Sapphire didn't appeal to me since I didn't play Gold/Silver :(
I did play the remake of Blue on GBA and really enjoyed it. Would love to finally play Gold/Silver..especially on a remake on the DS...

I only pray that if it is a remake of G/S that it isn't just G/S with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum skins....that would be uber lame. Perhaps some new/updated graphics would be nice.

[Strell]

Nintendo really should just give in and make a Pokemon MMO. It would pretty much be free money.

I'm certain you don't know what you are talking about.

[jeremiahkd]

Are they going to remake crystal too?

[Ski Hawk]

So...Pokemon Gold Dust and Pokemon Silver Lining, then?
Gold Sun and Silver Moon.

[neocisco]

So...Pokemon Gold Dust and Pokemon Silver Lining, then?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F2J0cH7F2FQ/SR4QGi2yxFI/AAAAAAAAC6I/RJK2nTtjXdI/s320/gold+dust+papercraft.jpg

http://www.invisiblehighway.com/img/wwe-golddust.jpg

Here's his special attack.

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/2549546

[whoknows]

I'm certain you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm certain I never know what I'm talking about.


Doesn't mean I'm wrong though 8-)

[Strell]

You honestly think you just make "free" money running an MMO?

Yes, you make free money. In the same way eating a piece of paper with the word "steak" written on it is just like the real thing.

[DarkNessBear]

I'm certain I never know what I'm talking about.


Doesn't mean I'm wrong though 8-)
Although I'd love to see an MMO, I think they are printing money just fine with their endless pokemon games.

[Staticbill]

Are they going to remake crystal too?

I doubt it. When they re-made Firered and Leafgreen, they didn't do the original Yellow. And I'm really excited about this. I played Gold, and I thought it was one of the best of the series.

[gaxur]

Nobody here thinking it might be a console pokemon game-- not an MMO, just a pokemon game done in 3D, on the Wii? They've still never done it, besides the cop-out of the colloseum crap.

[mogamer]

Are they going to remake crystal too?

I really doubt it. But I felt that Crystal was the best of the GB/GBC Pokemon games. Battle Tower was fantastic! I had a team for each level. :)

[Zmonkay]

G/S were my favorite generation, by far. So much inovation between R/B and G/S. I've played all of em since, but they just never had that "OMG, this is amazing" change in the experience, and have been more of minor refinements.

Also, I know it's a great portable series, but are we EVER going to get a Wii Pokemon? I mean, imagine a full fledged pokemon game, but with the colosseum graphics. pipedream since N64 days, I know.

[mis0]

I'd pick up a Wii to play a full fledged console Pokemon. No joke. :lol:

[Strell]

Don't get your hopes up for a proper Wii version or an MMO.

Those won't happen soon, if ever.

[gaxur]

oh, I'm certainly not getting my hopes up. I'm not even sure I'd still enjoy Pokémon at all, I haven't played since Yellow. Because you cannot top having Pikachu actually follow you around like in the show oh my god that is awesome! But I mean, I'm just surprised Nintendo hasn't done it. Not to mention it's about the easiest way to move Wiis besides producing other colours.

[Strell]

I'm just saying the dev team came out a few weeks ago and said they are against an MMO because - and this is deliciously ironic - that "it doesn't foster playing with other people the same way a portable game does."

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

I doubt a console version because the current games have either been spin-offs or simply battle-centric, with no real story or anything. Sure there is SOME single player, but it's never been emphasized in a good way on the Gamecube/Wii.

So yeah. Just keepin' everyone real.

[gaxur]

Or it could be another Pokémon Snap!

[KingBroly]

Or it could be another Pokémon Snap!

That would be a major letdown in comparison to what exists currently, but it would still be a good thing.

[Nohbdy]

God, they/re the remakes. That/s all. Go home.

[jeremiahkd]

Or it could be another Pokémon Snap!
oh SNAP! *ba dum psh*

[DQT]

I've heard D/P can actually make the distinction between Johto and Sinnoh originated Pokemon. I really think both Celebi and Jirachi should be catchable in game. (knowing Nintendo, they'll probably be G/S exclusive events)

Honestly from my perspective, this whole series needs a overhaul after this gen. There are nearly 500 of these guys and the mechanics of the Pokemon have nearly been perfected. I can't see how the 5th gen could improve upon what's been done.

I believe Game Freak really has to put these remakes out so they can buy time to a) figure out what to do next and/or b) animate the 600+ little bastards for the next gen. I'm definitely looking for to remakes though.

[Nohbdy]

The game has coding to tell whether a Pokemon came from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, or Sinnoh.

There's 493 of them.

[Rave Child]

Or it could be another Pokémon Snap!

I love Pokemon Snap! I played through most of it a few months ago after picking it back up from a CAG. I would probably prefer the G/S remake over anything else they might realistically make, although an MMO would always be nice. That would probably be my tipping point to buy a Wii.

[DQT]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I wonder why Game Freak didn't just make it so there'd be an even 500 Pokemon for D/P. Kinda like how 151 was the magic number for R/B/Y.

[lilboo]

Actually, a new Pokemon Snap for Wii would be really exciting to me. I guess it'd be ok with the DS too..but I'd be more excited for a Wii version.

[Moxio]

If it's a Snap remake I will be really upset.

GSC were the best Pokemon games by far. I REALLY hope they remake them. Has anyone played the Red/Green mods of the Gold remake? It's really incomplete but it's kinda cool.

[Friend of Sonic]

I'm surprised that this isn't going to be (as far as we know) a Wii release. One retail release on the Wii seems a little sparse.

[SL4IN]

Remakes confirmed!

[Nohbdy]

YOU COULD AT LEAST LINK TO THE SOURCE.

Which is the official Japanese Pokemon website: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html

[SL4IN]

Did you not even read the OP?

[SuperPhillip]

Very cool! I don't remember why I missed out on Pokemon G/S originally.
It was eighth grade or something, and I was excited for them...

[Mr. Beef]

Was I the only fan of the GC Pokemon games? Sometimes I feel like I was. They were fun, but they were no replacement for the portable versions.

[blackjaw]

milk milk milk milk milk

Wonder how long Nintendo can keep it up before ol' Pikachu runs dry?

[spree4567]

milk milk milk milk milk

Wonder how long Nintendo can keep it up before ol' Pikachu runs dry?

A long time. Mario Kart Wii has sold 14.5 million units and half the tracks in that game are just remakes. There's enough young kids who have no idea what a Game Boy/Game Boy Color and Pokemon Gold/Silver are.

[KingBroly]

Buying both

[SL4IN]

I'm importing one version for sure, and then buying both in English.

[Mr. Beef]

Find out which one has Growlithe for me, will ya SL41N?

[DarkNessBear]

Yay... some pokemon games we wont be able to play for another year. =(

Hope they show some footage on the tenth though. The internet is a pain, there are no longer any reveals, everything ALWAYS gets leaked out. Unless you're Blizzard...

[lilboo]

:lol: HeartGold

This is exciting. Hope to see lots of neat and new features. Excited to try this game out.

[gaxur]

milk milk milk milk milk

Wonder how long Nintendo can keep it up before ol' Pikachu runs dry?


There is this company I would like to introduce you to, it is called "Walt Disney".

[Moxio]

Need some screens, now. 8-)

[foltzie]

That's kind of cool.

Gold/Silver were the best ones anyways.

Nintendo really should just give in and make a Pokemon MMO. It would pretty much be free money.

Would be the only thing to have a chance at taking on WoW. Nintendo HATES the idea of managing an online community though.

[Strell]

I think everyone hates the idea of managing an online community.

[detectiveconan16]

Yes! G/S is still the best Pokemon game I've ever played. I'm hoping they'll put in the region from R/S/E

[VioletArrows]

Wake me for Crystal.

[Nohbdy]

They're not going to remake Crystal. We've already asserted that third games in a generation do not get remade.

[foltzie]

They're not going to remake Crystal. We've already asserted that third games in a generation do not get remade.

Indeed, who remakes the remake, thats just absurd!

[foltzie]

I think everyone hates the idea of managing an online community.

True, but WoW hates it to the tune of a billion or so a year.

[Strell]

Yeah, but what are the operating costs of maintaining that? Everyone seems to think WoW is just a turnkey thing for Blizzard.

More to the point, though, no one likes babysitting, and every online community is slightly above a nation of four year olds. And in many ways, far below.

[VioletArrows]

They're not going to remake Crystal. We've already asserted that third games in a generation do not get remade.

Bah, never mind then. I barely made it through Pearl and haven't picked it up since I (just barely) beat the Elite 4. So much awful grinding in that game. I think that's the hint that my Pokemon OCD days are over.

[LilPaintballer]

Nobody here thinking it might be a console pokemon game-- not an MMO, just a pokemon game done in 3D, on the Wii? They've still never done it, besides the cop-out of the colloseum crap.

Gale of Darkness XD

[Cao Cao]

Would be the only thing to have a chance at taking on WoW.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Fusion Fall and Toon Town? Definitely. But World of Warcraft? That's a guaranteed negative, good buddy. As far as MMORPGs go, the two would have entirely different target audiences. I highly doubt they'd be able to convince WoW players to give up Azeroth for Pokemon.

[soonersfan60]

I think everyone hates the idea of *Nintendo* managing an online community.

Fixed it for you.

And in case anyone is having brain freeze and thinks Pokemon MMO is a good idea, I have two words for you: friend codes.

[DQT]

A Pokemon MMO is the second most overrated "free money" (kinda hate that term) game behind FFVII PS3. In both cases, I think the people demanding the games actually have no idea how much it would cost to produce. Not only that, Game Freak has made it clear that they just don't want to make an MMO. If a developer's heart isn't in it, then their game is pretty much doomed from the start. Especially for a game that potentially huge.

[Nohbdy]

They never said they never wanted to make an MMO, it's that an MMO would go against some now-odd mantra that having the games not be on a portable would not let you be in contact with other people.

Apparently Game Freak are oblivious to what one of the main aspects of the internet enables.

[DQT]

Apparently Game Freak are oblivious to what one of the main aspects of the internet enables.

Oh so, so, very true. The internet was invented for fighting. :)

I forgot to add that I can't wait for these games and I don't mind the absurd Mega Man Battle Network names. FR and LG weren't that much better. I am opposed to remakes on principle, but LG was some of the most delicious reheated leftovers I've had in gaming.

[Mr. Beef]

If my memory serves, Nintendo has next to no experience with MMOs. Sure, they had PSO, but that was mainly Sega running things. While I would love for it to happen, Nintendo has a history of keeping their main games under lock and key until it's deemed "perfect." Just imagine how long this would be in development for if it got the green-light.

In fact, just thinking about it makes me re-think how good of an idea this would be. How would it play? I catch Pokemon/battle other trainers in real-time? Seems like just using a DS would be easier on me and my wallet.

[david12795]

I think I will buy platinum to consume time :D

[Strell]

Fixed it for you.


I hate it when I say something over someone's head and they don't get it.

If Nintendo ever attempted an MMO, yeah - they might resort to FCs. I'd like to think they'd restrict it in such a way that makes sense, but I sort of doubt.

On the flipside, I could completely see them taking a total hands-off approach, and letting Thunderdome law rule the land. 'Cuz at least then you can claim you don't care, don't care to control it, and therefore it's free to go as it pleases.

[soonersfan60]

I hate it when I say something over someone's head and they don't get it.

No, just didn't want to pass up a chance for a pithy "fix" to your comment... :-P

[Ather]

I hope so. The cheap battery in mine died out right as I was heading for the Elite 4. I never got to see the Kanto changes.

[Strell]

No, just didn't want to pass up a chance for a pithy "fix" to your comment... :-P

If we ever meet up, I'm going to buy you a beer. And then hit you with it. :]

[gaxur]

Isn't Dofus a turn-based MMO? It's not impossible, it's just not common. I think FFXI shows how well you can adapt a long running franchise to an MMO better than any other attempt, and Nintendo could certainly best SE in that.

If the developer doesn't want to do it, Nintendo could have someone else do it. No reason the main Pokemon team needs to work on it. As far as FC does, since a Pokemon MMO would probably be Wii or DS based, it would need a quick-chat system anyway. Or Nintendo could easily have a system where you have an adult call some toll free line to get a code to disable the need for Friend Codes, thus being able to say "You authorized these conversations, idiot" to any complaining parent. Orrrrrr just toss in some random cross-dressing scenes that are explicit enough to get the game an M rating, and say "why are you buying an M rated game for your kid".

[soonersfan60]

If we ever meet up, I'm going to buy you a beer. And then hit you with it. :]

As long as my mouth is open so I can catch some of the beer...

[foltzie]

I hate it when I say something over someone's head and they don't get it.

If Nintendo ever attempted an MMO, yeah - they might resort to FCs. I'd like to think they'd restrict it in such a way that makes sense, but I sort of doubt.

On the flipside, I could completely see them taking a total hands-off approach, and letting Thunderdome law rule the land. 'Cuz at least then you can claim you don't care, don't care to control it, and therefore it's free to go as it pleases.

Pokemon Eve?

[Filler2001]

HOLY SHIT......watched the pokemon sunday thing......and there was a 14 second footage of Gold walking around an incredibly updated New Bark Town (complete with wind effects!!!), and there was new art of the 3 Johto Starters. The kicker of the footage though: A CHICKORITA WAS FOLLOWING!!!!! Im going to link the video in 2 minutes. Also, release date is September in Japan.
EDIT:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q

YOU ARE WELCOME

[SL4IN]

OP up-to-date with everything.

[Filler2001]

Yay my vid! And for once I beat you to the info ;)

[blackjaw]

I don't know what I was expecting, but that vid didn't really do it for me. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum reskin.

[Cao Cao]

Watched the direct feed. Interesting stuff, even though it was pretty brief. Liked the remade music, and the Chikorita following the character around makes me wonder who it will apply to: Just the starters? Or any Pokemon in the 1st position?

[Mr. Beef]

It'd be pretty funny to see a Metagross just crab-walking alongside you.

[KingBroly]

But then opposing trainers could easily turn it on its' back, exposing its' weak point and allowing them to deal it...TINY DAMAGE!!!

[Nathan_Sama]

Ugh, I know this sounds outdated, but I wished this was for GBA.
Its gonna be soooo slow compared to the original.
I miss that menu efficiency in the latter games.

[Moxio]

That looks really good. I see they even made improvements to the buildings and whatnot. Awesome. Really looking forward to this.

[Nohbdy]

I don't know what I was expecting, but that vid didn't really do it for me. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum reskin.

There's no "reskin" or anything. It's for the sake of consistency. The GB/GBC games looked alike, R/S/E/FR/LG looked alike, and now these. There's no big deal.

[Filler2001]

Id hate to sound like a dick, but thats actually wrong......GBC had much more color and had different everything (not to mention it was a different gen), FRLG also had lots different from RSE. The text was much different, and most of the sprites were changed to make it look smoother. In this gen, the differences do look pretty big (Lots of style changes, prettier graphics, wind)

[pete5883]

All I really want them to do is make battles as fast as the GBA games. For some reason D/P is so much slower than FR/LG.

[KingBroly]

The theory behind the slow battles in D/P/P is to make you think the lag in wifi battles isn't that bad.

[blackjaw]

There's no "reskin" or anything. It's for the sake of consistency. The GB/GBC games looked alike, R/S/E/FR/LG looked alike, and now these. There's no big deal.

Bro, it looks exactly like Pokemon Diamond with G/S Pokedude, towns, pokemon. Until further details of extras are announced, the game is purely a graphic reskin of one of the better poke games.

I never said I wasn't going to buy it first day, but your "sake of consistency" is crap...its "sake of making as much money off the graphic engine as possible".

[limelight022]

Nintendo has been remaking Pokemon for the last 10 years.

[Nohbdy]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15787262&postcount=730

PUNNET SQUARES CONFIRMED, FUCK YES

[DARKiLLUSiON]

I literally scream OMG when I heard they're finally remaking this
can't wait till I can see my favorite starter Chikorita in the new 2D engine!! :D
and the pokemon following you..I hope it isn't just the starter..but also other ones
...haha I can totally see Snorlax walking slowly behind the sprite

[Moxio]

Chikorita reeks, dude. :-|

All about Cyndaquil and Totodile. :squirtle4.gif:

[Mr. Beef]

I never liked Totodile, but once the Physical/Special move typing happened...damn, he's not half bad.

[kratos1010]

I cant wait! I loved G/S and I only hope that the new remake doesnt kill it like fire red and leaf green

[mis0]

Cyndaquil all the way!

[KingBroly]

so...let's see...

Offspring will have a combo look of their parents (So...will Ditto offsprings be purple now?)
Wind (changes the direction/length of fishing pole strings?)
Starter follows you around like Pikachu in Yellow until evolved?

Any other changes besides the visuals and wifi?

[DQT]

A working save system for starters. Belongs in the OP I'd say.

[Nohbdy]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2eyuded.jpg

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

[lilboo]

I'm going to imagine March 2010. :-k
Sigh

[Nohbdy]

Um, yeah, that's expected.

[SL4IN]

A working save system for starters. Belongs in the OP I'd say.

I fail to see anything wrong with the current save system.

[Nohbdy]

I think he meant more than one save file.

Or maybe some optimizing so that it doesn't have to "save a lot of data" every time you change your party or something.

[SL4IN]

I think he meant more than one save file.

Or maybe some optimizing so that it doesn't have to "save a lot of data" every time you change your party or something.

If he's complaining about the "saving a lot of data", that's silly because it doesn't happen that often.

The multiple save file I don't think can be done since the game actually has two save files. The first file is your main save file that boots up every time you continue your game, the second file is a back up file that is there in case something would happen to corrupt your main file, hence why from time to time it needs to "save a lot of data" so it can update the main game file and update the back up file.

[Rave Child]

I'm going to imagine March 2010. :-k
Sigh

At least it'll give me time to play Platinum. I'm a couple hours in and it's my first game since R/S/E. I feel so lost this generation!

[Cao Cao]

Scans from Famitsu, posted by True-Gaming (http://www.true-gaming.net/home/?p=1045):
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/0905132002b2c5d5b87bfb8787.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/0905132002db2506f9dafeebe2.jpg

[pete5883]

If he's complaining about the "saving a lot of data", that's silly because it doesn't happen that often.
Surely you can't be serious. I'd say 95% of my saves are the long ones.

The multiple save file I don't think can be done since the game actually has two save files. The first file is your main save file that boots up every time you continue your game, the second file is a back up file that is there in case something would happen to corrupt your main file, hence why from time to time it needs to "save a lot of data" so it can update the main game file and update the back up file.
I find it very, very hard to believe they can't fit more save slots in the game. So what if there's already two? Doesn't mean there can't be 4.

[Moxio]

Wow, I forgot a lot of these junky GSC Pokemon. Sentret? Spinarak? Delibird?

So far my confirmed in-game team will consist of Typhlosion, (Red) Gyarados, and Scizor. For my dragon it'll be either Salamence or Dragonite, probably the latter based on how difficult it is to obtain a Dratini/Bagon. The rest I'm unsure still.

Also: I hope Silver doesn't wear short shorts/a kilt again.

[Mr. Beef]

Salamence wasn't in GSC, Mox...unless Bagon is one of the new ones you can catch after facing the E4...

And yeah, pretty much all of the GSC generation was garbage outside of Kingdra, Tyranitar, Typhlosion, Blissey...and probably one more I'm missing.

Surely you can't be serious. I'd say 95% of my saves are the long ones.

The only time it has to do a long save is when you move stuff around in your PC. Any other time, it saves quickly.

[Moxio]

Yeah that's what I mean. IF Bagon is in Gold, then I'll use Salamence. Otherwise just Dragonite.

You're missing Scizor, Heracoss, and Skarmory.

[Tha Xecutioner]

Scans from Famitsu, posted by True-Gaming (http://www.true-gaming.net/home/?p=1045):
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/0905132002b2c5d5b87bfb8787.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/0905132002db2506f9dafeebe2.jpgI want to know why they are showing my boy Arceus all over that one scan from True Gaming.

[Moxio]

@X

"The Arceus section in the scans is just showing its different PokeDex entries in Diamond and Pearl. It also says that in Platinum, you can hear the legend of Arceus from a hiker in the Oreburgh Mine and then later in the Canalave Library when you have the Arceus from the movie event in your party. The legend just summarizes what we already know about the legendaries of Sinnoh in that Arceus is the creator and Dialga, Palkia, and the lake trio were born from it."

[DQT]

Sorry, what I meant was a working save system.My copy of Silver literally won't save anymore. That's after having two 50+ hour games erased for no reason. Pokemon G/S is the XBOX 360 of game cartridges. The save battery is indeed a piece of shit. That's why cags are so hesitant to buy those games used. The remakes may well be automatically better than the originals as a result.

[Tha Xecutioner]

@X

"The Arceus section in the scans is just showing its different PokeDex entries in Diamond and Pearl. It also says that in Platinum, you can hear the legend of Arceus from a hiker in the Oreburgh Mine and then later in the Canalave Library when you have the Arceus from the movie event in your party. The legend just summarizes what we already know about the legendaries of Sinnoh in that Arceus is the creator and Dialga, Palkia, and the lake trio were born from it."
Damn, totally not what I was hoping/expecting :bomb:

[SL4IN]

Sorry, what I meant was a working save system.My copy of Silver literally won't save anymore. That's after having two 50+ hour games erased for no reason. Pokemon G/S is the XBOX 360 of game cartridges. The save battery is indeed a piece of shit. That's why cags are so hesitant to buy those games used. The remakes may well be automatically better than the originals as a result.

If that's what you meant by the save system, then the problem you're talking about is the battery in the cartridge dying. They were only meant to last a certain number of saves (I don't remember exactly how much, but it was more than one person would have achieved by themself easily). The problem is easily fixed by opening the cartridge and replacing the batter (it's a CR2032 inside). DS carts to my knowledge don't use a separate battery for saving, so that problem shouldn't occur with DS games.

@ Pete, I'm not 100%, but I'm certain that Beef is correct on why the game will have to "save a lot of data", which is due to moving Pokemon around in your PC. Makes sense since the first/second generation of games needed to save your game every time you switched boxes, and the third generation just took a long time to save in general.

@ Mox/Beef, Salamence is R/S/E. Tyranitar was G/S's Dragonite.

[Mr. Beef]

Yeah that's what I mean. IF Bagon is in Gold, then I'll use Salamence. Otherwise just Dragonite.

You're missing Scizor, Heracoss, and Skarmory.

...Can't believe I forgot those three, since they usually give me the biggest headaches.

[DARKiLLUSiON]

I read(serebii) in one of the scan there's a 3D looking environment with Rattata clining on the top right corner...maybe a cut scene upon entering a new room/building
if that's so ..BRING IT
imagine..a Gastly/Haunter floating towards you lol

[DQT]

Yeah the problem is fixable by replacing the battery, but you still lose the saves. I just think my Silver saves should lasted longer than the saves I had in Dragon Warrior for the NES, not the other way around.

[Nohbdy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0G3BK4N1U

Can you all believe Game Freak cannot implement updated cries after nearly more than 5 years since the release of Ruby and Sapphire?

[SL4IN]

There's nothing wrong with the older cries. I like them for the most part.

[Mr. Beef]

Are the cries really that important to you? Half the time I play, I'm listening to something else.

[Nohbdy]

They REALLY are out of place compared to the cries of Gen III Pokemon and later.

[Trakan]

Old school Red/Blue sprites and cries are better.

[TheMaidenOfSorrow]

I'm getting too old for pogeymans. I'll get it anyways. :[

[adriley313]

Anyone gonna import it?

[SL4IN]

I'm importing a Silver copy.

[SL4IN]

Updated the OP because I've been busy/lazy.

[adriley313]

i want to import Silver too but my japanese sucks

[Cao Cao]

Some info, from Coro Coro, I believe:
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=85670
http://blogs.members.freewebs.com/Members/Blogs/viewBlogRSS.jsp?userid=26727740 (The regular blog post at this site isn't appearing, so this is the site's RSS feed)
- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around
- talk to Pokemon to see how they feel about you
- The PokeDex, Computer Boxes and your bag have gotten a new layout
- revisit Kanto to check out new locations
- You must have your "Pikachu Coloured Pichu" following you in Ilex forest to activate the Notched Eared Pichu event
- Pre-order HeartGold and get a Ho-Oh figure, pre-order SoulSilver and get a Lugia figure, pre-order both and get both figures and an Arceus one.
- Jirachi - level 5, Draco Meteor, Rest, Wish and Confusion, holding a Liechi Berry
- Kyogre appears in Heart Gold
- Groudon appears in Soul Silver
- bring the two together to get Rayquaza
- Cynthia appears in the remakes when the Arceus event is activate

[Moxio]

Preoder both? :-S

[SL4IN]

I know for sure I'm pre-ordering Soul Silver. I'm incredibly excited to get one of the new Pedometers that are going to be bundled with the games, since I'm willing to bet that we won't see those come stateside.

The pre-order figures sound nice, and I would absolutely love to have one, but from past experiences, import sites don't carry the bonus figures you get when you pre-order. So, I can only hope that the pre-order figures will carry over when the games come stateside like the Giratina figure did with Platinum. At this point, I'm contemplating pre-ordering both just to get two pedometers. I really like the box art and oversize boxes the games themselves come in.

Also, I'm a little antsy since no imports sites have the games for pre-order yet since the games come out in a mere two months.

[Nohbdy]

I'm incredibly excited to get one of the new Pedometers that are going to be bundled with the games, since I'm willing to bet that we won't see those come stateside.

We've had Pokemon Pikachu before. Addtionally, they're bundled with EVERY game. Why wouldn't they?

[SL4IN]

We've had Pokemon Pikachu before. Addtionally, they're bundled with EVERY game. Why wouldn't they?

Because NOA probably thinks it's "too japanese" for western audiences.

Which seems to be the popular answer from them as to why we don't get some of their first party stuff from Japan.

[pete5883]

But it's Pokemon for chrissakes. I think it'll come to the US.

[FallMoon]

Please, please, please have the beautiful box that Japan is getting, the pedometer, and the little figures. PLEASE NINTENDO. Also, don't ruin the music like you did with Fire Red and Leaf Green.

[Nohbdy]

Because NOA probably thinks it's "too japanese" for western audiences.


What about Personal Trainer: Walking?

[DQT]

I want the pedometers too. If they do include them in a US release, I hope Nintendo doesn't raise the price of the game. This is Pokemon. Nintendo could get away with it.

Now that I think about it, don't most of Nintendo's Wii games come bundled with a piece of plastic anyway? I'd actually say chances are pretty good.

[Mr. Beef]

Kyogre, Groudon and Rayqyaza are in it? Seems a bit much. Why not bring Mewtwo back?

[detectiveconan16]

I wish we could revisit Sinnoh as an option... That would be truly epic, but this game is cool enough as it is.

[Nohbdy]

I wish we could revisit Sinnoh as an option... That would be truly epic, but this game is cool enough as it is.
Yeah, hey, let's throw off the level balance.

[SL4IN]

Put a link in the OP to all the pre-release images over at Serebii.net

[adriley313]

Why dont you ask a CAG in JPN to buy it for you.
Thats what Im thinking of doing.
Cag:dv8mad lives in JPN and he's pretty cool.

[sayHey]

I cant wait, G/S were my favorites.

Day one buy for me

[adriley313]

one will be day one the other maybe week 3-4
Two of my favs were born in gold and silver
Espeon and Houndoom

[SL4IN]

Pre-orders are available starting today on import sites, retailing for $59.90.

I put in a pre-order for Soul Silver.

[dembesum]

I think the idea of the pedometer coming with it seems like a cool (albeit gimmicky) way to level up pokemon on the go. It's stupid as hell to design it like a Pokeball, imagine how embarassed someone would be when they are discovered wearing it.

[Cao Cao]

They're coming to America (and Europe), Spring 2010.
PR (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=93138)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlK19JcycZM

SAN DIEGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo of America Inc. revealed today that Pokémon™ HeartGold Version and Pokémon™ SoulSilver Version for the Nintendo DS™ and Nintendo DSi™ systems will be released in spring 2010 in the United States and Europe. These newest entries for the best-selling video game franchise were announced amid the biggest Pokémon video game event of the year and in front of the top Pokémon video game and trading card game players in the world at the 2009 Pokémon World Championships.

Pokémon HeartGold Version and Pokémon SoulSilver Version return players to the scenic Johto region first introduced in the beloved original Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver games nearly a decade ago. The richly detailed adventure of Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver is now enhanced for the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DSi systems with updated graphics and sound, as well as new touch-screen features and a host of surprises. Pokémon HeartGold Version and Pokémon SoulSilver Version bring dozens of Pokémon characters back into the limelight for a new Pokémon generation – and longtime fans – to catch, train and battle.

“Announcing these much-anticipated game launches at The Pokémon World Championships allows us to give the news directly to the legions of fans who represent the true heart and soul of Pokémon,” said J.C. Smith, The Pokémon Company International’s director of marketing, who made the announcement on stage to kick off the 2009 Pokémon World Championships. “We want to thank these loyal fans by revealing the details to them first.”

The launch of Pokémon HeartGold Version and Pokémon SoulSilver Version follows the incredible launch of Pokémon Platinum Version, which has sold more than 5.66 million copies worldwide to date.

Pokémon is one of the top children’s franchises in history. The Pokémon video game series has sold more than 193 million units worldwide since its inception 13 years ago. Additionally, Pokémon is the No. 1 collectible trading card game of all time and has shown no sign of slowing down. It boasts 374 percent sales growth in the United States alone since 2005, and is sold in more than 30 countries across the globe. Other extensions of the property include 12 seasons of the animated television series, which in 2009 will be broadcast in as many as 153 countries in more than 25 languages. Pokémon films and DVDs continue to reach fans in amazing numbers, ranking at the top of the box office in Japan.

For more information about Pokémon HeartGold Version and Pokémon SoulSilver Version, visit www.Pokemon.com.

[KingBroly]

That ruins my idea of creating a thread titled "Biggest Shock Ever: DS Pokemon remakes coming to America"

[Phunin]

HeartGold and SoulSilver, lol, I like the names they come up with. But I sadly got tired of the same recycling of the old Pokemon gameplay methods years ago.

[Mr. Beef]

Spring, huh? I can wait.

[Nohbdy]

So would anyone like to justify buying this game? There's been NOTHING announced about improving the main gameplay. All we have so far is some retarded series of minigames. Where's the updated movesets for Pokemon? Where's the random online matches? You know, stuff that matters.

[utopianmachine]

I don't have a very good memory of this game, so it looked all new to me. What's with the little Pokemon following you? It reminds me of Pikachu from Pokemon Yellow.

[SL4IN]

My Japanese copy of Silver will be here in less than a month, I'm extremely excited!

[JMEPO]

I think the idea of the pedometer coming with it seems like a cool (albeit gimmicky) way to level up pokemon on the go. It's stupid as hell to design it like a Pokeball, imagine how embarassed someone would be when they are discovered wearing it.

Remember Digivices?

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/di/digimon-d-3-digivice.jpg

Those things were the shit. If the pokeball thingy is anything like a digivice I'll be addicted instantly.

EDIT: I did it. I just ordered a $65 DS game. Butz It haz Podemeterz!

[Chairman_LMAO]

I'll wait until the US version comes out, unlike when I imported Leaf Green. I just don't have much of a connection with Gold and Silver.

[Nohbdy]

Seriously, does anyone want to crack at my question?

[JMEPO]

You must not fully understand, Nohbdy; It comes with a pedometer.

[Mr. Beef]

The logo is new. DAY ONE. :hot:

[utopianmachine]

You must not fully understand, Nohbdy; It comes with a pedometer.

This. This'll likely be a day one for me too.

[maximumzero]

This. This'll likely be a day one for me too.

I'm not seeing anything in the press release about the pedometer--are we sure the US is getting it?

[DQT]

Seriously, does anyone want to crack at my question?

God, so demanding. There is nothing new. I don't care. Are they milking the series for all it's worth? Yes. But I realize at this point, I'm not going to be playing this series forever regardless in what direction they take. Actually, this may or may not be the last Pokemon game I buy. So I'm going to just enjoy SS for what it is when it comes out and not sweat what they'll do in the future.

Game companies churn out the same sequels all the time. It just doesn't bother me anymore.

[Nohbdy]

Any advancements from the GBA games and before were acceptable due to the capabilities of the units but when you see Game Freak pulling off online play with a really shitty series of minigames that can ONLY be played online, something is terribly wrong.

Being a sucker for Pokemon up until Platinum was being a good kind of sucker. These next remakes are for fools unless some awesome shit like random online battles is announced.

You can only take imaginary creatures moving like cardboard cutouts only so far.

[JMEPO]

I'm not seeing anything in the press release about the pedometer--are we sure the US is getting it?

Nope, It could very easily be a Japan exclusive bundle in.

[mcelfour]

Nope, It could very easily be a Japan exclusive bundle in.

Which would make me sad.

Sl4in: is there a language setting on imported pokemon games, or is it Japanese only?

[pete5883]

These next remakes are for fools unless some awesome shit like random online battles is announced.
Fools, and people who never played the original. That said, I will probably only get this if it comes with the pedometer. And doesn't the Wii game have random online battles?

[Nohbdy]

people who never played the original.

I may have started on Sapphire but unless you're a completely new player to the series, there's no interest for me to pick this game up if all it turns out to be is Platinum 2.0: New Region rofls.

And I shouldn't look to a different game on a different console to get random battles.

[DQT]

Any advancements from the GBA games and before were acceptable due to the capabilities of the units but when you see Game Freak pulling off online play with a really shitty series of minigames that can ONLY be played online, something is terribly wrong.

Being a sucker for Pokemon up until Platinum was being a good kind of sucker. These next remakes are for fools unless some awesome shit like random online battles is announced.

You can only take imaginary creatures moving like cardboard cutouts only so far.

Ok. Thanks for letting us know.

[Nohbdy]

Your opinion was also enlightening. Like a smooth laxative.

[Mr. Beef]

I think it's clear that you aren't a fan of how HG/SS aren't adding anything new for you, Nohbdy. That being said, there's no use complaining about it here, since we all know how you feel about it. Insulting everyone for being eager to get it sure isn't helping things, either.

[foltzie]

Indeed... its clear that Pokemon is Nintendo's Madden or perhaps Final Fantasy.

[SL4IN]

Which would make me sad.

Sl4in: is there a language setting on imported pokemon games, or is it Japanese only?

The games are 100% Japanese only, no language option.

Indeed... its clear that Pokemon is Nintendo's Madden or perhaps Final Fantasy.

Yes and no. Yes in the sense that there may very well always be Pokemon games. No in the regard that Game Freak isn't just churning these because it's easy, because it's far from that. For example, when Diamond & Pearl were in production, the team of ~50 people that worked on the game spent the entire 2 years of production doing so, putting everything they could into the DS games. What a lot of people don't realize, is that Game Freak only handles the Pokemon RPG's and not all of the other spinoffs that come out over time. And the Game Freak team isn't a large one to begin with, and things take time, so it's not just some random process where they just decide to make the product in 2 months and let the media hype it up for 10 months and then release the product half-finished, they take their time and deliver a full product on launch day.

[DQT]

Your opinion was also enlightening. Like a smooth laxative.

I like that.

Problem is, suppose we all suddenly abandon the series like you vehemently advocate. You know what'll happen? Nintendo's marketing machine will find 3 more kids to replace every one of us. Get over it. Of all the things to get self-righteous about, it's Pokemon?

[RockMySocks10]

looks awesome, I actually still have yet to play D/P/P, so I need to pick up one of those and get playing so I can be ready by G/S.

[mcelfour]

looks awesome, I actually still have yet to play D/P/P, so I need to pick up one of those and get playing so I can be ready by G/S.

Apparently D/P are $20 used at GS this week, so there you go. There's a thread in the deals forum about it, and it's in the GS weekly ad.

[david12795]

Hopefully, they will be doing a limited edition DS pkmn bundle.

[Ski Hawk]

Anyone else importing? I know no Japanese, but I'm going to try anyway.

[SL4IN]

I'm importing as well. It should be here in about two weeks.

[SL4IN]

Play-Asia is prepping my order and it should be shipping out in the next day or so. I should have the game early next week and will post impressions/pics of everything that comes in the box.


(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/www.serebii.net)

[Ski Hawk]

Woot, my copy just shipped out. Does anyone know about long how the cheapest shipping option takes? Also, I heard there is a semi-English patch for the game, is that true?

[Mr. Beef]

I heard the Red/Ash fight song for this. It sounds amazing.

[SL4IN]

Woot, my copy just shipped out. Does anyone know about long how the cheapest shipping option takes? Also, I heard there is a semi-English patch for the game, is that true?

Yeah, my copy shipped out at 4:18 AM on September 11th. From my experience last year when I bought Pokemon Platinum from Play-Asia & chose the cheapest shipping option, it took about 4-5 days.

And yes, there may be a semi-english patch for the game, but the only way to use it would be to play the game through means which we cannot discuss here on CAG.

[DQT]

And yes, there may be a semi-english patch for the game, but the only way to use it would be to play the game through means which we cannot discuss here on CAG.

Bleh, really? People really can't wait can they?

[doodofdoods]

Why wait when you can semi-translate?

[Quackzilla]

When I saw this I went outside and jacked off while shooting my guns in the air. Very nice. I just wish they were on GBA instead of DS, I like the 2D graphics better.

[adriley313]

when do they come out

[Nohbdy]

Spring 2010.

[adriley313]

Too Long i want it now

[adriley313]

So I was strolling thur Gamestop and saw this.
Finally-http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75770
Release date is April 1, 2010.
Cant wait. will be a day 1 buy for me.

[A Happy Panda]

Can't wait to get it, play the absolute shit out of it for about 30 hrs (but never beat it) then never pick it up again. THEN I can't wait to get whatever they call the Silver remake and do the same thing, but probably play even less of it.

I've done this with every Pokemon title except Red, of which I put in probably 200+ hrs.

[utopianmachine]

April will be a good month. HeartGold here. :whee:

[Mr. Beef]

That Game Boy Player sounds like a nice feature. Too bad I don't remember what the old music sounds like.

Superior Silver for me.

[utopianmachine]

Heh heh, I just want Ho-oh. I'm assuming he's in this?

[Ryukahn]

Wow, I had no idea so many of the old legendary Pokemon will be in the game, as well as the legendaries from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. :hot:

I'll probably go with HeartGold for my version of choice. Can't wait to get Platinum in the next week or so and get back into the Pokemon craze. :D

Actually, I totally forgot Lugia is exclusive to SoulSilver. That being the case, I'd definitely take Lugia over Ho-oh, so I'm gonna have to look into the other exclusives for each version.

[Mr. Beef]

Heh heh, I just want Ho-oh. I'm assuming he's in this?
Both Ho-Oh and Lugia are obtainable in HG/SS. The main difference is that depending on which version you choose, you'll get to catch that one first, at Level 40 (which means you get their exclusive move). The other one will be at 70, I believe, which means they're too high a level for their exclusive move, but a Move Tutor should be able to remedy that.

[utopianmachine]

Oh, nice. What with the wi-fi network (please tell me that will be in this game), it will hardly matter which game is purchased, I imagine.

[Mr. Beef]

I would assume so. Alls I need is a traded Growlithe, and I'll be set.

[utopianmachine]

I would assume so. Alls I need is a traded Growlithe, and I'll be set.

I so want one of those too.

[Ryukahn]

I so want one of those too.

Growlithe is exclusive to HeartGold, so you'd be set, assuming you catch it. ;)

And thanks for the reminder on Ho-oh and Lugia being in both. Guess that puts me back to HeartGold for now, as I too want Growlithe and don't want to rely on a trade for one. ;)

[DQT]

It's always been that way in Silver and Gold for GBC. Aeroblast and Sacred ash are the moves Beef was talking about.

[doodofdoods]

I'm pretty sure I read that Ho-Oh and Lugia will be level 40 in both games.

[Ryukahn]

It's always been that way in Silver and Gold for GBC. Aeroblast and Sacred ash are the moves Beef was talking about.

Serebii has both of those moves learned at level 85 for each of the Pokemon, so you should be able to learn them no matter what version, unless I am missing something.

As for the pokemon's level, Serebii lists them at 45 or 70, depending on which version you have.

[Mr. Beef]

Serebii has both of those moves learned at level 85 for each of the Pokemon, so you should be able to learn them no matter what version, unless I am missing something.

As for the pokemon's level, Serebii lists them at 45 or 70, depending on which version you have.
Actually, they changed it up for HG/SS. They Learn Sacred Fire/Aeroblast at 43. I'm not sure if they still learn it at level 85 or not (like in D/P/Plat), but "hooray" if they do.

[DQT]

Ok cool. Shoulda known they'd have tweaked it.

[icedrake523]

Can't wait for Silver. This generation was definitely the best, IMO. You had 2 regions to explore, a lot of legendaries (all of which were good), introduced the new types, and you had Red to fight so there was a real challenge once you finished everything else.

[Mr. Beef]

I dunno. The only legendaries I liked in Gold/Silver were Lugia and Suicune, to a lesser extent.

You are going to be able to get most of the other legendaries from the other games though. The Red/Blue birds, Kyogre/Groudon/maybe Rayquaza (need to look it up), and of course, the Wi-Fi events for Mew and Celebi.

The Celebi event includes backstory for Giovanni, including why he doesn't show up to answer New Team Rocket's call. It involves you traveling back in time to fight him. Awesome!

[Ryukahn]

I dunno. The only legendaries I liked in Gold/Silver were Lugia and Suicune, to a lesser extent.

You are going to be able to get most of the other legendaries from the other games though. The Red/Blue birds, Kyogre/Groudon/maybe Rayquaza (need to look it up), and of course, the Wi-Fi events for Mew and Celebi.

The Celebi event includes backstory for Giovanni, including why he doesn't show up to answer New Team Rocket's call. It involves you traveling back in time to fight him. Awesome!

You can get Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza in HG/SS. I looked it up on Serebii (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/legends.shtml). As for the moves, you are correct. I didn't look down to the HG/SS moveset list on Serebii, as it does show them as being level 43 learned. :cry:

Also, boo to that spoiler showing full text in quotes heh.

[icedrake523]

I dunno. The only legendaries I liked in Gold/Silver were Lugia and Suicune, to a lesser extent.

You are going to be able to get most of the other legendaries from the other games though. The Red/Blue birds, Kyogre/Groudon/maybe Rayquaza (need to look it up), and of course, the Wi-Fi events for Mew and Celebi. In the RBY gen, I really only liked Zapdos and Articuno. I liked the beasts in GSC (even though I never caught them in Silver :() and you could get one of them at level 40 which was really good since you could control what it learned.

You get Groudon in Silver, Kyogre in Gold, and Rayquaza appears when you have both on one cart.

I believe you can also get Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina at level 1 somehow.

[SL4IN]

Ok, so it's been a month since I last posted, so I suppose I'll give an update.

Yes, I got my copy of Soul Silver, about two weeks ago. I'm sitting at about 32 hours in (this is purely free time that I've had that hasn't been studying for my 8 exams in the last 5 weeks I've had, work, or spending time with the GF) and all I've done is complete the main story.

I've acquired all 16 badges and have a pretty decent team, but unfortunately, I need to grind quite a bit since after you beat Garry Oak at Giovanni's old gym, the Elite 4 all raise their levels, with the lowest being 58 from the first guy. The game has completely taken me back to when I first played silver in Fall of 1999; easily still the best Pokemon generation out there.

The only legendary I've caught so far is Lugia. I plan on tackling some of the other this week (namely Mewtwo & the Legendary Dogs). The Pokewalker (Pedometer that's included with the game) is an interesting concept and I've been messing around with it quite a bit. As you walk, it counts your steps & then also gives you Watts. These Watts can be used to pick up items & to encounter Pokemon on the Pedometer. The special Wi-Fi PokeWalker course that is available in Japan right now is Yellow Forrest, which only contains Pikachu. The catch is, that some of the Pikachu in the forrest know fly or surf, but these are incredibly hard to come by, I've caught almost a box full of Pikachu and haven't encountered one.

You can store up to 6 Pokemon on the Pedometer, and they get 1 experience point for every step you take. The only catch is that they can only level up once per day. The step counter resets at 12 Midnight every night, and the Watts stay on the Pedometer until you sync it with your game, to which the Watts get transported to the cartridge and added up. When you hit certain milestones with the amount of Watts you've saved, it unlocks new PokeWalker courses for you to travel to.

That's been about it so far, I'm just now getting to the metagame since I've completed all the gyms and whatnot. If anyone has any questions about the game/post game stuff, post in this thread and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.

[Ryukahn]

In the RBY gen, I really only liked Zapdos and Articuno. I liked the beasts in GSC (even though I never caught them in Silver :() and you could get one of them at level 40 which was really good since you could control what it learned.

You get Groudon in Silver, Kyogre in Gold, and Rayquaza appears when you have both on one cart.

I believe you can also get Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina at level 1 somehow.

You need a special movie promo Arceus, and you can have it "create" one of them.

[Mr. Beef]

You need a special movie promo Arceus, and you can have it "create" one of them.There's footage of it on Youtube. Vid under the spoiler. The actual creation is both awe-inspiring and hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtG-y7LFQQ4

[adriley313]

I will be getting maybe Soul Silver as im more of a Ninetales fan.
As long as they have Houndoom im cool.
i loved gold/silver bc it brought me my favorite pokemon Espeon

[Nohbdy]

The catch is, that some of the Pikachu in the forrest know fly or surfIsn't the joke of Yellow Forest is that there's a Pikachu that knows Fly, Surf, and Volt Tackle at the same time?

Oh, and Giovanni is Silver's father. Biggest plot point ever and Game Freak fails to flesh it out. OH SHIT YOU GET TO FIGHT HIM oh his team is just in the low 40s.

Giovanni is supposed to make this epic encounter and it's as if he never trained a single day since he was defeated. Fucking Game Freak.

[popular penguin]

I was playing an imported Heart Gold and it turns out that there is a button with a picture of your running shoes on the touch screen that allows you run without holding the B button. GENIUS! It is so helpful until you get the bike. I just wish this feature was implemented in the earlier games.

[adriley313]

thats so cool
i cant wait for the US release its gonna be epic

[utopianmachine]

Any word if they're keeping the pedometer for the U.S. version?

[SL4IN]

I haven't heard anything that confirms that they are.

[adriley313]

They better

[Ryukahn]

Yeah, not including that would be pretty lame. I'm very much looking forward to it since I exercise every day anyway.

[DQT]

Here's hoping Kanto will have way more activity this time around. I always felt that although it was pretty awesome you could visit it, there was really nothing to do aside from defeating all the gym leaders. Everything was essentially closed off and the whole region felt kinda dead.

[adriley313]

Here's hoping Kanto will have way more activity this time around. I always felt that although it was pretty awesome you could visit it, there was really nothing to do aside from defeating all the gym leaders. Everything was essentially closed off and the whole region felt kinda dead.

Ya i kinda felt like every one moved to Johto and Kanto was like dead.

It would be smart to have the pedometer cause they would sell more.
Just think if the game came with some way to get kids to excerise more it would make a mother wanna buy it for her kid. Makes lots of sense plus it would make it a whole lot more gameplay after youve beat them all and caught them all.

Question will it have the GBA slot Pal Park so you can import pkmn like diamond and pearl.
I sure hope so.

[SL4IN]

The Pal Park is in the game.

[OnChkMnDS]

What are the chances of a preorder bonus this time around?

[Snap]

What are the chances of a preorder bonus this time around?
I'd gather pretty high. There has been pre-order bonuses for the previous 3 DS games released in the US. I hope we get the cool figures from the Japan pre-order bonuses.

[Snap]

That's been about it so far, I'm just now getting to the metagame since I've completed all the gyms and whatnot. If anyone has any questions about the game/post game stuff, post in this thread and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
I've got a copy of HeartGold on the way, picking up SS on US launch. Did you use any guides to help with the translations? Any tips on using the Pokewalker i.e. menu translation or just trial and error?

Thanks!

[CloudStrife]

Always liked the Pokémon series. However I haven't played the most recent of games simply because they seem repeative and a little boring.

I did however miss the Silver/Gold episodes, maybe this will be my chance to start again.

[icedrake523]

Always liked the Pokémon series. However I haven't played the most recent of games simply because they seem repeative and a little boring.

I did however miss the Silver/Gold episodes, maybe this will be my chance to start again.

Definitely get one of these remakes. Silver and Gold are the best of the franchise.

[adriley313]

Yes they are and with the D/p/p upgrades will make it awesome.

April is to far away.

[Mr. Beef]

http://www.sporcle.com/games/pokemon.php

It's a quiz-thing to see if you can name the original 151. I got 129, because I forgot those stupid fossils.

[doodofdoods]

I got 106 of the 1st generation and 35 of the second generation.

[Ryukahn]

The more I think about this, the more I simply can't wait to get my hands on either of these. Looking at the pre E4 pokedex, it seems like it's the best yet as far as good/cool pokemon you can get. That's one of the things I haven't enjoyed with the newer pokemon, that being most of the cool pokemon aren't available until after the elite 4 is beaten.

[meerkatgamer]

Silver/Gold/Crystal are my favorite Pokemon gens so I'm pretty excited for April, but me being impatient I think I'll import gold and get the Silver when it comes out in US. Then I'll be able to use the poke'walker because who knows if we'll get that when the game comes out in the US, but maybe we'll get lucky.

I wonder if they will do a crystal for this or is this it?