Star Wars =$115,000,000

[ryosnk]

$115,000,000 Day One Worldwide Sales for Star Wars

Shattering all records for entertainment franchise spending in a single day, Star Wars fans around the world have spent more than $115,000,000 on in-home Star Wars entertainment. Single day sales for the most requested DVDs of all time, the Star Wars Trilogy, combined with the release of the new Star Wars Battlefront videogame have set yet another benchmark for the most popular entertainment franchise in the world.

Easily setting a record for the best selling film collection ever released on DVD, the Star Wars films boasts global box office performance in excess of $3.4 billion, not adjusted for inflation. Worldwide home entertainment sales for the Star Wars franchise stand at more than 125 million units inception to date.


This phenomenal achievement will continue as the DVD debuts in Japan, Australia, Benelux and Mexico and the LucasArts game launches internationally later this week.

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back and Episode VI: Return of the Jedi are available in a four-disc set that includes a bonus disc filled with all-new special features - including the most comprehensive feature-length documentary ever produced about the Star Wars saga and never-before-seen footage from the making of all three films. Each of the three films in the Star Wars Trilogy has been digitally restored and re-mastered by THX for superior sound and picture quality.

The films of the Star Wars Trilogy are available exclusively as a collection and feature Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround EX. All three films are closed-captioned and subtitled in English, French and Spanish in the U.S. Internationally, sound and subtitling specifications will vary by territory.

[Dok Diamond]

damn, i thought alot of people boycotted the dvd's because of "Greedo shoots first" and other suff like that.

[jmcc]

Well, I think it's perfectly kosher to punch any Star Wars nerds in the neck now. They bitched about all the horrible changes and yet bought it in droves anyway. Tossers! Tossers I say!

[LV-426RS]

I will never buy star wars movies again. I'll stick with my old VHS and when they wear out.... so long and thanks for all the shoes.

[bignick]

I swear I am gonna kill someone if I hear this dvd set sucks because they changed this or that.

[Othergods]

To quote George Lucas "I am sorry that you fell in love with a half finished film. It is finally complete, the way in envisioned it from the begining." End quote.

Or atleast finished until he rereleases it and changes something else to try and kill the franchise.

[jmcc]

I will never buy star wars movies again. I'll stick with my old VHS and when they wear out.... so long and thanks for all the shoes.

Or you could get the secret, illegal laserdisc rips and burn them to DVD, as is the style these days.

[Admiral Ackbar]

The truth is nobody really gives a shit about the changes. People may wail and moan about copy protected CD's but they buy em anyway. Same with this.

[jmcc]

To quote George Lucas "I am sorry that you fell in love with a half finished film. It is finally complete, the way in envisioned it from the begining." End quote.

Or atleast finished until he rereleases it and changes something else to try and kill the franchise.

Yeah, I'm personally going to wait for him to die. Then I can be sure that he won't change anymore.

[Quackzilla]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

[Othergods]

Maybe when he is dead his estate will release all the stuff he would not and whore out all the early versions even the christmas special :D

[doubledown]

I will never buy star wars movies again. I'll stick with my old VHS and when they wear out.... so long and thanks for all the shoes.

I have another set....barely watched.....want those as a backup????? :)

I helped with this number, picked up both the DVD and XBOX game. Glad I have them on DVD.....

[jmcc]

Maybe when he is dead his estate will release all the stuff he would not and whore out all the early versions even the christmas special :D

Doubtful. I imagine he's destroyed the original prints of the movie so no one can ever release it again. Either that or he'll eat them on his deathbed.

[Othergods]

I sold my silver box VHS a long time ago on Ebay when they were out of print for $75, so I got some of my money back from him.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

It's worse than that.

[Sartori]

Maybe when he is dead his estate will release all the stuff he would not and whore out all the early versions even the christmas special :D

Doubtful. I imagine he's destroyed the original prints of the movie so no one can ever release it again. Either that or he'll eat them on his deathbed.

That's hilarious.

[WildWop]

Maybe when he is dead his estate will release all the stuff he would not and whore out all the early versions even the christmas special :D

Doubtful. I imagine he's destroyed the original prints of the movie so no one can ever release it again. Either that or he'll eat them on his deathbed.

I hope he publicly burns the original reels, then pisses on them to douse the flames. Just to piss off all of the anal retentive nerds that can't stand that Lucas would want to fiddle with a movie that may not have met his original vision because of the technical limitations of the 1970's. Sure, I miss some of the original stuff, like the jubjub ewok singing at the end of Jedi (I was pretty young when I first saw that), and the lack of a grating alien singing a really crappy song in Jabba's palace, but hey, shit happens. The guy cared enough to not only restore the old prints, but to try and tweak it to make the content even better. Purists will cry foul, but at least he's being true to his own creative vision.

Say you're an aspiring artist. 25 years ago, you were just out of art school and sold your first big work to a gallery. At the time, it was the best you could do. Your skills were somewhat lacking at the time because you are relatively new to painting professionally. It met with much fanfare, and people all over the world loved it so much that they wouldn't accept anything more from you but similar works. You're forced to see that painting over and over and over again over the course of the next 25 years. You start to see flaws in the painting that you could do better now, with your greater level of talent. Those flaws start to nag at you. You want to fix them.

You're about to release a new painting in the series, after nearly two decades of inactivity, so you say, this would be a great time to commemorate my first painting by improving and re-releasing it to a new generation of gallery-goers. You fix some of those flaw that have been bothering you for 20 years. But it backfires. Douchebags that kept prints of your original painting in a vaccuum sealed room where only themselves, their mother (in whom's house the print is stored, and where they still live), and presumably God himself can get into, now scream and cry and bitch and "boycott" by only paying admission to the gallery FOUR separate times to see the modified painting, rather then the requisite TEN.

Despite their ramblings, you've met your creative vision. You're satisfied. You go into your money bin, take a swim through all your cash -- that the Douchebags gave you despite their bitching -- then go grab an absurdly expensive bottle of scotch and get trashed.

[j.elles]

People try to look into a subject before shooting your mouth off. It makes us all look stupid, not just you.
The Star Wars box set is the original 3 movies, with Harrison Ford, etc.,etc... Just remastered with stereo THX sound, and clearer pictures.
And from conception to completion Star Wars belongs to George Lucas and he can do whatever he wants with it, because it's his baby. Stop bitching. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine endlessly about it, it's annoying and dorky and no one wants to hear it. Or should I say more of it. Talk about beating a dead horse.

[Sartori]

People try to look into a subject before shooting your mouth off. It makes us all look stupid, not just you.
The Star Wars box set is the original 3 movies, with Harrison Ford, etc.,etc... Just remastered with stereo THX sound, and clearer pictures.
And from conception to completion Star Wars belongs to George Lucas and he can do whatever he wants with it, because it's his baby. Stop bitching. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine endlessly about it, it's annoying and dorky and no one wants to hear it. Or should I say more of it. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Is it so hard to release the original trilogy?

It's not like he would lose money on doing so.

[dtcarson]

They're his movies. He doesn't want to release the 'original versions.' If the changes are that bad, don't buy it.
I like BBC Science Fiction [Red Dwarf, Doctor Who, THHGTtG, etc.] I don't mind them 'remastering' the audio and visual so it's easier to see and hear, but if they replaced the cheapy props with super CGI versions, or gave Zaphod a working second head, I probably wouldn't buy them. Then again, I might, depending on how obvious the prevalent the changes were. I might bitch privately, but ultimately, it's the owner's work.
How many of you buy 'Director's Cut Special Edition' DVD's? Same thing.
Now, if they're full of glitches, that's one thing--there's no excuse for a technically defective product. I have heard reports of ANH freezing up, but don't know the extent of the problem.

[WildWop]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

It's worse than that.

No it's not. The CG is improved, the transfer is better, they remixed the sound again, and met the fans halfway on the Greedo-shoots-first thing. The insertion of Hayden Christiansen at the end of Jedi, while annoying me because I think he's a horrible actor, makes good logical sense for the continuity of the films. And who was attached to whatever actor played Anakin anyway? He was in the films for like 2 minutes.

[Sartori]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

It's worse than that.

No it's not. The CG is improved, the transfer is better, they remixed the sound again, and met the fans halfway on the Greedo-shoots-first thing. The insertion of Hayden Christiansen at the end of Jedi, while annoying me because I think he's a horrible actor, makes good logical sense for the continuity of the films. And who was attached to whatever actor played Anakin anyway? He was in the films for like 2 minutes.

Okay.. it makes more sense now that Lucas has CHANGED things, sure.

[Admiral Ackbar]

As a consumer we have every right to complain...

Steven Spielberg altered ET for the same reasons yet included the unaltered original version.

Ted Turner tried to colorize films. Yes, he had the right to do that because he bought them, but it's a bad idea. It's an immensely stupid idea.

As a writer, I've come to understand that my writings can have different meanings to different readers. Look, I might write a story that means X. But to 99% of the population it means Y. That drives some authors up a wall. The whole "misunderstood artists" line.

Now I can reprint my work and change things around to try to get that different meaning across. But if half my readerships thinks the reprint isn't as good as the original work maybe they have a poinnt. Further, the uniqueness of the original work is lost if that printing stops publication.

And going farther than explicit changes, even corrections can cause major differences. Maybe there are some grammatical errors in the first printing. Then the publisher fixes those errors in the second printing. But those fixes change a line or paragraph to give a scene a whole new feeling. That's happened before. Shakespeare is a classic example, since there are multiple different recorded versions of, "To be or not to be..."

Ultimately, Lucas has every right to do what he's doing. But if the changes he makes lessens the film on an artistic whole, then doesn't the world lose something...

How would you feel if he wanted Star Wars to be in Black and White, and only released it so?

[Rig]

So many hardcore Star Wars fans. :roll:

[WildWop]

The ET modification is far worse then anything Lucas did, even though I hate the Jabba's palace song. Walkie Talkies in place of guns? Come ON.

It would be nice to have an Infinifilm-style release for Star Wars, but it won't happen. It's a sad fact, but wasting my energy spitting into the wind will only get my face wet.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

It's worse than that.

No it's not. The CG is improved, the transfer is better, they remixed the sound again, and met the fans halfway on the Greedo-shoots-first thing. The insertion of Hayden Christiansen at the end of Jedi, while annoying me because I think he's a horrible actor, makes good logical sense for the continuity of the films. And who was attached to whatever actor played Anakin anyway? He was in the films for like 2 minutes.

I was referring to the fact that more changes had been made, without consideration of the quality of the changes.

And for the record, the CG may be improved but it still looks like shit and doesn't fit the film at all. It actually looks much worse than the old effects.

[Kaijufan]

Wow, that a lot of copies, but not entirely unexpected.

[Sartori]

The ET modification is far worse then anything Lucas did, even though I hate the Jabba's palace song. Walkie Talkies in place of guns? Come ON.



That had to be one of the most ridiculous things ever.

[Admiral Ackbar]

The quotation or the scene?

[Sartori]

Scene.

I thought it was a joke when I first saw a picture.

[dtcarson]

I agree, ET was worse. [didn't buy Et, in part because of that.]
At least most if not all of the changes in SWT can be explained and make some sort of sense, the ET change doesn't make a lick of sense, as my dad would say.

[Noodle Pirate!]

I don't understand his theory of" its finally finished the way i wanted now".
If he wanted greedo to shoot first, then why didnt he film it that way in the first place?
As he gets older, I'm sure he'll change some other things into something wierd and insert jar jar in to every 3rd frame or something bizarre like that. The older he gets the wierder he becomes. He will still claim it was his original vision though. :roll:

[guardian_owl]

Well, I have stayed the course and am not buying it, especially since there are some audio errors on Ep 4. I think the deal breaker for me was the insertion of young Anakin, that's just too much. I'll stick with my Widescreen VHS tapes of the O-OT.

[Scrubking]

Do you people defending Lucas realize how stupid you sound?

It boils down to this: Lucas made a move, fans loved the movie, now lucas says fuck you to the fans and doesn't give them the movie that they love.

If Lucas were smart (which he isn't), he would have released the unedited versions in a different set and I am sure he would have made twice the money. But he is such an out-of-touch asshole that he'd rather flip the bird to the people that made him and only release his hack job edition.

[epobirs]

As I've said before, where is the Ark of the Covenant when you really need it to strike down this kind of evil revisionism.

[Zenithian Legend]

SO... the horse definitely had something to say and it didn't post on here for some reason, and now he's upset.

[Mr. Anderson]

I don't care either way. As long as I have Star Wars, in one form or another, on DVD, I'm pleased. I didn't think the Special Editions were that bad, but then again, I'm not an overobsessive nerd.

[LV-426RS]

I'm not an overobsessive nerd. I'm not even a big fan of the films. I'm sure as hell not a fan of someone who does not care about the fans of his work. But I don't like the fact that a film is changed from it's original state and I'm no longer able to buy it the way I originally saw these films.

Imagine if Kevin Smith redid Clerks, he added COLOR!!!!!! How horrible would that be? His original budget was not enough for color but now he can do it and whatever better format comes out he will never ever release it again in it's b&w glory.

[Mr. Anderson]

I'm not an overobsessive nerd. I'm not even a big fan of the films. I'm sure as hell not a fan of someone who does not care about the fans of his work. But I don't like the fact that a film is changed from it's original state and I'm no longer able to buy it the way I originally saw these films.

Imagine if Kevin Smith redid Clerks, he added COLOR!!!!!! How horrible would that be? His original budget was not enough for color but now he can do it and whatever better format comes out he will never ever release it again in it's b&w glory.

I would just keep my original version closer to my heart.

[bignick]

You all talk like you were owed something.... get real.

[Mr. Anderson]

You all talk like you were owed something.... get real.

You tell em', BigNick.

[camoor]

When does Star Wars enter the public domain?

After all, copyrights and the concept of intellectual property were created so that artists would be able to make a profit and have impetus to create NEW works of art.

I sure hope Mr. Lucas makes all his star wars investment money back. He deserves every penny that was protected by US government law - after all he really cares about his fans!

[jmcc]

You all talk like you were owed something.... get real.

Yeah, really. It's not like Star Wars fans made Lucas or something.

[Gothic Walrus]

People try to look into a subject before shooting your mouth off. It makes us all look stupid, not just you.
The Star Wars box set is the original 3 movies, with Harrison Ford, etc.,etc... Just remastered with stereo THX sound, and clearer pictures.

Actually, this ISN'T the original three movies. Each movie is a new version of itself, a remaster of the Special Edition with material added, changed, or outright replaced.

You all talk like you were owed something.... get real.

Thank you!

The way I see it, if you're really desperate for the originals, you're free to hunt down the VHS, the laserdisc, or the pirated DVDs. No one is forcing you to buy the Trilogy...so if you're really that upset about it, don't buy it. It's that damn simple.

[scsg75]

Heh, I think the changes made in the DVD release were good. Bottom line, it's George Lucas' movie, he made it, he can do whatever he wants to it. When you make a movie then you can do whatever you want to it. It's stupid to "boycott" it because a scene was changed.

[defender]

Proof that a sucker is born every minute.

[Scrubking]

I just saw the "new" version of 'A new hope' and I have to tell you that 90% of the changes are for the worse. When the droids first land on tatooine Lucas actually edited the desert so that it all seems super fake - I mean, wasn't a REAL desert good enough for him? Now it looks like 3po is walking through a big tan background instead of real sand - it is beyond lame. The whole greedo scene still majorly sucks and now it looks even worse cause they digitally shift Han's entire body over and it looks like an amateur hack job.

And the whole "lucas doesn't owe you anything" argument is old and lame. Yes HE DOES OWE US because if it weren't for the fans his first movie would have flopped and star wars as we know it today would never have been. This stupid argument is akin to athletes saying that they don't owe anything to the fans when it's the fans who make it possible to play a game for millions of dollars in the first damn place. :roll:

[Xevious]

I didnt take advantage of the buying the DVD boxset while its on sale because I was short on cash. I was kinda hoping that it would go on sale again (maybe Xmas?).

I'm not a fanatical Star Wars fan but I did enjoy the series. I'm kinda shocked at all the bad blood here on the forum as well as Amazon. Are the changes really that bad?

Are there any before and after pics on the net??

[Kaijufan]

Are the changes really that bad?

Are there any before and after pics on the net??
I really dont think so. Its the special editions of Star Wars, with a few minor changes. The only new change I really dont like is how they changed the actor who played Anakin's ghost in the end of Jedi.
A New Hope changes (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges.html) and ESB & RotJ changes (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges02.html).

[Mookyjooky]

They're his movies. He doesn't want to release the 'original versions.' If the changes are that bad, don't buy it.
I like BBC Science Fiction [Red Dwarf, Doctor Who, THHGTtG, etc.] I don't mind them 'remastering' the audio and visual so it's easier to see and hear, but if they replaced the cheapy props with super CGI versions, or gave Zaphod a working second head, I probably wouldn't buy them. Then again, I might, depending on how obvious the prevalent the changes were. I might bitch privately, but ultimately, it's the owner's work.
How many of you buy 'Director's Cut Special Edition' DVD's? Same thing.
Now, if they're full of glitches, that's one thing--there's no excuse for a technically defective product. I have heard reports of ANH freezing up, but don't know the extent of the problem.

Actually they're "our" movies....if they were "his", he would of never released them. People put alot of great momories into these movies just to see all sort of shit is changed. Cleaning the images for DVD and erasing the strings holding up the death Star that they couldnt do in the 70's...thats fine. Changing the Stars (adding more realistic backdrops) in star wars and adding ambient creatures....thats fine too...changing the story with massive bullshit story arcs....is fucking bullshit. I wont buy the DVD version for this reason alone...besides people are selling the original shit (ripped from Laserdisc to DVD) on eBay anyways....thats what I bought.

George Lucas is getting old and losing his edge, instead of stepping back and letting people talk of his moment of brilliance for 100's of years....he went back and fucked it all up.... So fuck him, fuck him in the fucking mouth. He's turned out to be 1/2 the man he once was.... Oh well.

[Tromack]

You know what? I don't care if a generation fell in love with the original movies. Sure, I did, but if he wants to change his own intellectual property, I say go ahead. So what if he changed the movie? He created it, he can do whatever he wants with it. He didn't have to release any DVD's, like he originally said he was going to do. Be happy you can get anything. The man has created works that have entertained millions and have been cultural mainstays for 20 years now. If anyone can create something even half as great as he has, then I might allow them to bitch. Otherwise, go back to writing your fanfics, jacking off to Carrie Fischer in a gold bikini, and shut the hell up.

[Mookyjooky]

When does Star Wars enter the public domain?

After all, copyrights and the concept of intellectual property were created so that artists would be able to make a profit and have impetus to create NEW works of art.

I sure hope Mr. Lucas makes all his star wars investment money back. He deserves every penny that was protected by US government law - after all he really cares about his fans!

Um, no....actually he doesnt give a fuck about his fans,....I met the man, I would say that he is the biggest pompus ass in showbiz and doesnt care what anyone thinks. But thats my opinion....and many, many others in the biz.

[Tromack]

They're his movies. He doesn't want to release the 'original versions.' If the changes are that bad, don't buy it.
I like BBC Science Fiction [Red Dwarf, Doctor Who, THHGTtG, etc.] I don't mind them 'remastering' the audio and visual so it's easier to see and hear, but if they replaced the cheapy props with super CGI versions, or gave Zaphod a working second head, I probably wouldn't buy them. Then again, I might, depending on how obvious the prevalent the changes were. I might bitch privately, but ultimately, it's the owner's work.
How many of you buy 'Director's Cut Special Edition' DVD's? Same thing.
Now, if they're full of glitches, that's one thing--there's no excuse for a technically defective product. I have heard reports of ANH freezing up, but don't know the extent of the problem.

Actually they're "our" movies....if they were "his", he would of never released them. People put alot of great momories into these movies just to see all sort of shit is changed. Cleaning the images for DVD and erasing the strings holding up the death Star that they couldnt do in the 70's...thats fine. Changing the Stars (adding more realistic backdrops) in star wars and adding ambient creatures....thats fine too...changing the story with massive bullshit story arcs....is shaq-fuing bullshit. I wont buy the DVD version for this reason alone...besides people are selling the original shit (ripped from Laserdisc to DVD) on eBay anyways....thats what I bought.

George Lucas is getting old and losing his edge, instead of stepping back and letting people talk of his moment of brilliance for 100's of years....he went back and shaq-fued it all up.... So shaq-fu him, shaq-fu him in the shaq-fuing mouth. He's turned out to be 1/2 the man he once was.... Oh well.

Were you the key-grip on the movie? Best Boy? Are you Mark Hamill? In what way are they "your" movie? You gave him your money? Wow, you sure did buy the creative rights to the movie when you watched it. You create something 1/1,000,000 as good as the edited versions (I'm not even going to touch the old versions) of the films, and I will let you say your piece. As it is, shut the hell up, and be grateful that he even created the movies in the first place.

Also, take your piracy elsewhere. If you want to steal people's intellectual property, I don't want to hear about it.

[Tromack]

When does Star Wars enter the public domain?

After all, copyrights and the concept of intellectual property were created so that artists would be able to make a profit and have impetus to create NEW works of art.

I sure hope Mr. Lucas makes all his star wars investment money back. He deserves every penny that was protected by US government law - after all he really cares about his fans!

Um, no....actually he doesnt give a shaq-fu about his fans,....I met the man, I would say that he is the biggest pompus ass in showbiz and doesnt care what anyone thinks. But thats my opinion....and many, many others in the biz.

So, he is confident enough to make his own decisions and not pander to his fans? Wow, the man is a bastard. He should go to hell.

[Mookyjooky]

You know what? I don't care if a generation fell in love with the original movies. Sure, I did, but if he wants to change his own intellectual property, I say go ahead. So what if he changed the movie? He created it, he can do whatever he wants with it. He didn't have to release any DVD's, like he originally said he was going to do. Be happy you can get anything. The man has created works that have entertained millions and have been cultural mainstays for 20 years now. If anyone can create something even half as great as he has, then I might allow them to bitch. Otherwise, go back to writing your fanfics, jacking off to Carrie Fischer in a gold bikini, and shut the hell up.

You actually had a point and sounded intelligent until the last sentence.

I love how everyone here thinks that if you have an opinion about the star wars dvd collection that youre a obese, zit faced, white T-shirt with discolored armpits, 46 year old nerd who has an inflatable jabba the hutt bed that you sleep on and jerk off to thoughts of Carrie Fisher (hopefully before "postcards on the edge-era"...)

First off, I dont own anything starwars....not a toy lightsaber or even a game. I grew up in the 80's (born 1980) - I never saw the movies till I was 14. Basically, I'm just talking about the known fact, George Lucas had something so good, a title at the best Sci-Fi movie ever made.......and like Michael Jordan, he came back around once he got old and lost his edge and fucked it all up. It's just sad, thats all.

PS: I'm rubbing my wookie for you Tromack.....

[Mookyjooky]

They're his movies. He doesn't want to release the 'original versions.' If the changes are that bad, don't buy it.
I like BBC Science Fiction [Red Dwarf, Doctor Who, THHGTtG, etc.] I don't mind them 'remastering' the audio and visual so it's easier to see and hear, but if they replaced the cheapy props with super CGI versions, or gave Zaphod a working second head, I probably wouldn't buy them. Then again, I might, depending on how obvious the prevalent the changes were. I might bitch privately, but ultimately, it's the owner's work.
How many of you buy 'Director's Cut Special Edition' DVD's? Same thing.
Now, if they're full of glitches, that's one thing--there's no excuse for a technically defective product. I have heard reports of ANH freezing up, but don't know the extent of the problem.

Actually they're "our" movies....if they were "his", he would of never released them. People put alot of great momories into these movies just to see all sort of shit is changed. Cleaning the images for DVD and erasing the strings holding up the death Star that they couldnt do in the 70's...thats fine. Changing the Stars (adding more realistic backdrops) in star wars and adding ambient creatures....thats fine too...changing the story with massive bullshit story arcs....is shaq-fuing bullshit. I wont buy the DVD version for this reason alone...besides people are selling the original shit (ripped from Laserdisc to DVD) on eBay anyways....thats what I bought.

George Lucas is getting old and losing his edge, instead of stepping back and letting people talk of his moment of brilliance for 100's of years....he went back and shaq-fued it all up.... So shaq-fu him, shaq-fu him in the shaq-fuing mouth. He's turned out to be 1/2 the man he once was.... Oh well.

Were you the key-grip on the movie? Best Boy? Are you Mark Hamill? In what way are they "your" movie? You gave him your money? Wow, you sure did buy the creative rights to the movie when you watched it. You create something 1/1,000,000 as good as the edited versions (I'm not even going to touch the old versions) of the films, and I will let you say your piece. As it is, shut the hell up, and be grateful that he even created the movies in the first place.

Also, take your piracy elsewhere. If you want to steal people's intellectual property, I don't want to hear about it.

"You gave him your money?" I did give him my money.......

"As it is, shut the hell up, and be grateful that he even created the movies in the first place. " - Your right, I should lick his ballsack for making that movie....what was I thinking...In fact, I'm gonna pray for him.....hell, I'll pray for you too. I love you for writing that post, I'm so grateful for you to write that! Great Googly Moogly

[Scrubking]

Basically, I'm just talking about the known fact, George Lucas had something so good, a title at the best Sci-Fi movie ever made.......and like Michael Jordan, he came back around once he got old and lost his edge and shaq-fued it all up. It's just sad, thats all.

Word

[evilmax17]

On Star Wars being "Lucas's" movies, so he can do whatever he wants to them: BULL...SHIT. I think that South Park got it right by saying that Star Wars (as well as any movie released to the public), becomes ours. They become our childhood, our memories, etc. You can't just fuck with something that so many people love just because you "had a vision". It's the equivilant of playing football, and some kid getting mad and taking "his" ball home. Sure, he has "the right" to take it home, but in the process he's screwing over the other 10 kids who were having a good time.

[LV-426RS]

I could care less that he changed them.

The part that fucks it up is that the original release version will not be re-released.

That's why I will not buy them. I liked them for what they were.

[CaseyRyback]

I could care less that he changed them.

The part that shaq-fus it up is that the original release version will not be re-released.

That's why I will not buy them. I liked them for what they were.

exactly. How hard would it have been for him to include both cuts and please everyone?

[Tromack]

I could care less that he changed them.

The part that shaq-fus it up is that the original release version will not be re-released.

That's why I will not buy them. I liked them for what they were.

exactly. How hard would it have been for him to include both cuts and please everyone?

I will agree with that. It wouldn't be hard to do. At least I don't think it would.
I just can't stand all of this, "George Lucas has raped my childhood, by changing the movie" bullshit. If you don't like it, fine. Don't buy the DVD's. Just don't complain that you are as much a part of the movie as he is, just because you watched it. So you paid 5 bucks, or whatever movies cost in 1977, and you had a good time. That's great. George Lucas doesn't owe you anything. He made a movie. You paid him. The transaction has ended. If you put some higher importance on this movie and now equate it to your childhood, that is your own problem.

[doraemonkerpal]

(ignoring the debate :P )

while browsing through the "extras" dvd, i found out that the star wars battlefront demo is on it (xbox)! how awesome is that?! anyhoo, i thought it was pretty cool :lol:

[jmcc]

(ignoring the debate :P )

while browsing through the "extras" dvd, i found out that the star wars battlefront demo is on it (xbox)! how awesome is that?! anyhoo, i thought it was pretty cool :lol:

Well, it auto-updates your dashboard from what I hear, so if you've got a modchip you should maybe not try that.

[Drico]

People who bash Lucas for changing his movies are beyond stupid. If you don't like these versions of the film, then don't buy them. No one is forcing you to. Go buy some old-ass VHS,pirated DVD's, or laserdisc on Ebay.

Maybe he should release the real untouched OT on DVD for you ignorant assholes, but he isn't, so please shut the fuck up. I personally prefer the new versions over any other ones. The transfer is great, the re-done sfx are great, and the new scene additions/changes are very limited.

These are the same films. How could a split second difference possibly ruin a film for you? You're just looking for something to bitch about.

"Oh no, Han and Greedo shoot at the same time!" ... So what? Is it going to make that much of an impact on the whole film as to whether or not Han shoots first, last, or at the same time? You will have forgotten that scene within 10 minutes anyways. As for the addition of Hayden at the end of ROTJ, it was the obvious thing to do. Who the fuck is that old man playing Anakin in the original? He has no relation to the other Star Wars films, and is totally off-track.

No one can even have a real discussion about Star Wars or the new DVD release without a bunch of asshole trolls coming into the topic and turning it into "Luca$ sucks" or "The new DVD's are so gay!!" rampage.


Fuck you.

[evilmax17]

The thing is, i don't LIKE SW ep 1 or 2, at all. I like to pretend that they were never made, so that when watching the original movies, I can still enjoy them. It's like the Matrix, whose first movie was lightyears better than it's 2 sequals. Imagine if they went back and added the Merovigian into the first one, and messed with some other stuff. I can still watch and fully enjoy The Matrix, but if they put stuff from it's crappy sequals in, I just couldn't watch it again. Same goes for Star Wars, I don't want to see Naboo celebrating, and I don't want to see the Anakin from Episode 2. To me, these crappy movies were just milking the cash-cow, and now they're taking the full focus of the series. That's just wrong.

[Drico]

It's not wrong. Whether you like it or not, the prequels are part of the entire Star Wars story. The reason Lucas isn't releasing the originals is because they are outdated and no longer consistent with the prequels. As far as I'm concerned, you're not a "real" Star Wars fan, because you only like half of the story.

Your argument is weak. Let's say I hated ROTJ, it's like me "pretending" that it doesn't exist, and the end of the story is the ending of ESB. On the other hand, let's say I hated ANH. It's like pretending that ESB is the beginning of the story (before the prequels) ...

When all of the Star Wars movies are out on DVD, with added scenes and what-not, that's Lucas' story. Like it or not. Stop bitching.

[defender]

To me Lucas and Star Wars was is akin to Michael Jackson...


When I was kid it was so cool...then one day it got all twisted and sick. You gotta be a freak to still be a fan of some gay-ass kids movie for the 70s. Sure...it was great at the time...and so was MJ. There are dozens of modern day things to be geeky and cool about and I tell you ...none of them include Star Wars.

Losers.

[JSweeney]

Oh well, at least it will likely be another decade before Lucas decides to release the complete sextolgoy and we have to listen to the fanboys complain again.

[jmcc]

Oh well, at least it will likely be another decade before Lucas decides to release the complete sextolgoy and we have to listen to the fanboys complain again.

You will too when you see that he's added Jar-Jar into every scene and has made him a Jedi.

[JSweeney]

Actually, I'd laugh my ass off.
It'd be even funnier if he tries to do a bad ass Ben Kenobi-esque lightsaber spin and chops his head off.

They are movies. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Which would you rather have... a movie you love rot in obscurity or keep getting thrust back into the limelight with subtle chances each time?

Believe it or not, when I took my kid sister to go see Episode 1, her favorite character was Jar-Jar, and it was one the first one of the toys she actually wanted.

As much heat as Jar-Jar got, he's probably one of the most memorable character for the children.

These are children's movies after all. Anyone going into them looking for mature thought provoking sci-fi was a dumbass.

[Drico]

These are children's movies after all. Anyone going into them looking for mature thought provoking sci-fi was a dumbass.

Not quite. They're geared more towards "family" movies, rather than childrens movies, and even that's arguable.

[Scrubking]

The only reason Star Wars is crappy now is because Lucas made it that way. When Star Wars first came out everyone loved it and you weren't considered a geek for doing so.

And no these are NOT the same films. Many scenes were completely changed, removed or added, ala greedo shoots first, so how can you say it is the same film?

And Yes the NT are childrens films and Jar Jar is the biggest proof that they are. The only reason Lucas didn't infect ep2 with overflowing Jar Jar was because of the major outcry against such an idiotic character. Not to mention that Lucas's kiddie sizing made into the new editions of the OT - so even though they are not children's films he made them lean that way by all of the butchering he did. Example: In ep4 he added in some digital robots acting stupid and childish during the entrance scene into Mos Isley.

[Drico]

OT had Ewoks and C3PO. 'Nuff Said.

[guyver2077]

(ignoring the debate :P )

while browsing through the "extras" dvd, i found out that the star wars battlefront demo is on it (xbox)! how awesome is that?! anyhoo, i thought it was pretty cool :lol:

i didnt like the demo too much. and thats weird cuz i usually enjoy star wars games.

[guyver2077]

any word on easter egss?

[Kaijufan]

(ignoring the debate :P )

while browsing through the "extras" dvd, i found out that the star wars battlefront demo is on it (xbox)! how awesome is that?! anyhoo, i thought it was pretty cool :lol:
I also thought having the Battlefront demo on the DVD was pretty cool. I hope we see more DVDs with videogame demos on them.

[A7las]

I have the OT on VHS and I haven't bought any of the NT ones. I'm most likely just going to wait for the full set to come out. And according to thedigitalbits.com, that should be out about 2007 with extra features that were even held back from this release.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

(ignoring the debate :P )

while browsing through the "extras" dvd, i found out that the star wars battlefront demo is on it (xbox)! how awesome is that?! anyhoo, i thought it was pretty cool :lol:
I also thought having the Battlefront demo on the DVD was pretty cool. I hope we see more DVDs with videogame demos on them.

Yeah, that is cool. Too bad battlefront sucks shit.

[bmulligan]

Lucas making such a big whoop about the movies never being 'finished' is bullshit. Practically ALL the scenes added are negligible and have nothing to do with the story: ships flying better, banthas walking, monsters and robots slapstick, etc. The only relevant scenes added were the Jabba/Han scene and the Biggs meeting in the rebel hangar in ep IV.

If he REALLY wanted to "finish" the movies, why didn't he do these:

- digitally redo yodas mouth to coincide with the dialog.

- remove all the matte outlines around spaceships against starfields.

- touch up the crappy lightsaber effects from ep. IV

- add more edited scenes from the original shoots.

- fix a myriad of faults, glitches, and editing inconsistancies.

I never liked the emporer hologram not corresponding to the Palpatine form from ep. 1, but it works much better now. And I also like the improved musical numbers in ROTJ. The original songs sucked bigtime.

But complaining that his movies weren't finished until now, that's bullshit -- thery're STILL not finished !

[Drico]

- touch up the crappy lightsaber effects from ep. IV


I can tell you haven't watch the Episode IV DVD. The lightsaber effects have been completely re-done.

[rebenns]

I heard that the movies were butchered, and full of glitches too.

I hated the Special Edition, is this it? Please say no.

The total run time for the three films is around 6 hours. The total changes for the three films total about 10 - 15 minutes, if that. I'd hardly call that butchered.

[paean]

Sale in China for the DVD Set: $50 (which will be pirated over and over and over again) :D

[daikaiju]

I'm not gonna climb on the "purist" bandwagon here, but I will say this. I own the ORIGINAL untouched / not remastered VHS set, a "bootleg" DVD set (supposedly in 5.1), the THX remastered / non-special edition laserdiscs, and the new DVD release of the trilogy. If you want to whine and cry about the edits, then you have to go back to the laserdisc THX remasters for the best quality versions available of the original trilogy - owning them, I can honestly say you are missing the boat on the remaster job for the new DVD set. The audio for ANH blew me away. It's impressive as hell that it sounds as good as does for a 30 year old film - FAR superior to the AC-3 laserdiscs. Bass is nice and full - with a pleasing ominous rumble. Spatial positioning is really nice on ANH too, much nicer than the AC-3 lasers. And the print? Sheesh - there is no comparison. The new DVD is MUCH sharper, the colors much nicer,with virtually no dithering - ok, so you can still see some matte lines - you can in all the other versions too. Admittedly, I don't think I'll part ways with my laserdiscs, as the films are the way I grew up with them, but the new DVD's are really great as far as audio / visual - just suck it up that he changed some stuff and enjoy the films - the DVD's are easily the best quality available for the films - don't be fooled by others telling you differently.

[bmulligan]

- touch up the crappy lightsaber effects from ep. IV


I can tell you haven't watch the Episode IV DVD. The lightsaber effects have been completely re-done.

Actually I've watched them all and the sabre effects need to be redone again, because they STILL suck.

And daikaiju's right, the sound and picture quality is pretty amazing. Watching it in crystal clear 480p with no pops, no dirt, and a pure sub woofer channel is worth the price of admission.

I just wish Lucas had spent his money improving more of the original movie scenes instead of on gratuitious, extranneous monster segue material. Maybe in 20 years he'll have the sense to edit and replace Jar-Jar binks with an more intelligent character instead of whoring his franchise to 4 year olds. Actually, My 4 year old doesn't even like Binks. The first thing he asked me when he saw the movie it was why that guy talks like a stupidhead.

[Lootr2Core]

I will never buy star wars movies again. I'll stick with my old VHS and when they wear out.... so long and thanks for all the shoes.

You remind me of the character on MR. show with Bill and David.. who only uses the 'only pure piece of technology ever crafted' some sort of Edison Victorla player...

[KingDox]

yes it's true, Lucas is never satisfied. The dvd of TPM is actually different then when the movie first came out. There are a few minor changes like the pod race is longer. Also Lucas even says in the comentary of TPM that he is only like 80% happy about the movie. Maybe he wants to do even more effects to the movie that he can't do yet/look fake/cost too much. But I have no doubt that when the new DVD format comes out we will see new versions of the movies.

[RedvsBlue]

I think the article omitted the part about Lucas's ego now has grown bigger than the Death Star II.

[Eclipse]

maybe theyre digitally remastered to all have flashlight sabers. I could see george lucas doing that. Violence is evil. It corrupts our pure minds.