PS3 Slim Redesign - Real - $299

[RelentlessRolento]

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No personal opinion yet....

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[gunm]

Ha ha, 1up channels Loltaku, and then Slotaku strikes again! Digging up innuendo from Chinese message boards...sigh.

IMO, the pics are fake.

Seriously, though, I do believe the rumor about a slimmer, cheaper PS3 sooner rather than later, but I dunno if it will happen at E3. If anything, there'll be a price drop to clear out inventory on 80GBs to make way for a bigger HDD one.

Edit: so to recap, pics fake, rumor of cheaper PS3 with smaller, cooler parts = true.

[cdeener]

What difference does it make if they don't sell it at a cheaper price nobody will buy it and they will still be #3.

[Shrapnellistic]

It would be the next best thing to a price-drop; market it as a relaunch of a console to spike interest like the PSP remodels since Sony can't afford another worthwhile price-drop in the $100 range. Personally, I could see myself trading in the current PS3 model for credit towards the one in the supposed leaked pictures - best of all... no Spider-Man font!

[munch]

That looks uglier than the normal model.

[Ryukahn]

It looks like a super sized PSP stamina battery.

[YodaEXE]

Yeah, that thing is kinda fugly :p

[optimusprime8062]

I think it looks fake...and its also very...very ugly.

[Breakpoint]

Probably only available in China

[mykevermin]

Man, I dunno. All the pics of the console look "fake," if only because they look "cheap" - by "cheap," I mean "losing the gloss we all hate in the first place and going back to PS2-style flat black."

But that box in the very first picture is the only thing, I think, that gives this a shred of credibility. Not that a box can't be mocked up, mind.

Two things make this credible, IMO:
1) the box
2) the "PS3" moniker. While that might make some more skeptical, let's be honest: which of the current three consoles needs a marketing/image makeover/rebranding? The Playstation 3.

[Reality's Fringe]

There's a good NeoGaf thread about it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361611&page=8

I'm waiting utilE3, but I'm also holding off on buying now just to make sure. I mean, with the new smaller cell and RISC chips, it's not a huge logical leap to slim the model down. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if the redesign is attempting to make it resemble a PS2

...I kinda want a 60GB model though for BC. I'm seriously sick of all this console clutter.

[bvharris]

My vote if for fake. Given how much effort they put into making the PS3 look nice (and it does look very nice) I can't imagine they would ever release something this ugly.

[PhrostByte]

Looks ok.

[zenprime]

Vote for fake. It's probably one of those Chinese 8 and 16bit consoles designed to look like a recent console.

[bordjon]

I believe. But my 60gb is just fine with me!

[darknight88]

Alot of ppls are saying its real. There is a poster on GAF that just said "September". So something might be released then. Also Before we got the XMB-Chat feature in the FW update, he posted all about it over at GAF thus being credible.

[daflubby]

What difference does it make if they don't sell it at a cheaper price nobody will buy it and they will still be #3.

Fanboyism adds nothing to discussion.

Also, that looks horrendous. I don't think Sony is that dumb.

[Scorch]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=214873

then again, it's always possible that they're just denying it because they haven't announced it yet.

[darknight88]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=214873

then again, it's always possible that they're just denying it because they haven't announced it yet.

Why would a company(Sony) come out and state the "rumors" are true? What company has ever done that? Obviously, when something leaks, everyone at said company denies any sort of info.

Im pretty sure this is real. Plus GameInformer recently stated there will be 2 year defining things occurring this year...this could be one of them at E3.(PS3Slim+ price drop on old hardware)

[KingBroly]

I'm going to vote for a True here. With the exception of the last pic, only the top of this is shown. Also, it has been pointed out to me that the company that manufactures PS3's in China (the factory pictured) has requested a Cease and Desist order for those pictures.

Also, keep in mind that 2 of these pictures have human hands in them. If these pics were fake, we wouldn't be seeing them. As far as pricing goes, we might see yet another switcheroo here with the bigger systems being $299 until they run out then this thing comes in at $399...

[HowStern]

I don't think some people in the thread realize that, real or not, the pictures are of the top plastic piece and not the entire PS3.

Also, cuta, PS3 has outsold everything in Japan (including Wii) for all of 2009. The U.S. isn't the whole world. :P

[optimusprime8062]

Oh its only the top? Hmmm...

[Blackout]

Damn the PS3 lost a lot of weight! :)

The system could use a slimmer model though. It probably wouldn't increase sales because no one is buying the current version, but I wouldn't mind picking up a slimmer PS3 down the road a couple years from now.

[wbc1228]

looks pretty fugly.
i'm hoping it is a fake.
sony can't be this stupid, right.
then again, sony has been quite a few dumb decisions with the psp/ps3

[cdeener]

I don't think some people in the thread realize that, real or not, the pictures are of the top plastic piece and not the entire PS3.

Also, cuta, PS3 has outsold everything in Japan (including Wii) for all of 2009. The U.S. isn't the whole world. :P
Well, Japan is Sony central so they will still be #3 everywhere else since most people aren't buying PS3 for the price point plus they don't have enough exclusive games to make people buy one.

[opportunity777]

I wouldn't buy the slim because I have a 1st gen model with PS2 H-BC, but the 1st gen version is definitely the ugliest and bulkiest system ever. The only system that comes close to that is a 1st gen Genesis with a 1st gen Sega CD and the 32x attachment. I think this slim look is a slight improvement.

For Sony, I think a slim model would be an excellent marketing and economic move.

Now, I wish MS would slim down its system. I would buy a Slim 360 without a second thought.

[KingBroly]

I don't think a slim 360 is possible because of the hard drive BS they have. You can't just say to a majority of your fanbase 'this model's better, but your saves aren't coming over if you get one'.

I'm not saying I wouldn't buy this PS3, because I would if it had PS2 BC in it (I'd sell off the current PS3 I have if it came to that). Not at $400, though.

[cdeener]

Fanboyism adds nothing to discussion.

Also, that looks horrendous. I don't think Sony is that dumb.
You do realize I have a PS3 and I enjoy playing games on it but I mostly use it for a Blu-ray player. I like all my systems otherwise I wouldn't own them.

[RanchLizard]

Fake. Couldn't be THAT slim yet, could it? The PS3 processing runs really hot, so cooling would make it less slim. My guess: the real redesign, when and if one ever comes, will make it less wide, too.

[dv8mad]

Sent these to one of my client's that works for Sony after I saw your blog post. He responded with:

HAHA!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r258/dv8maddots/polystation-3.jpg

[The 7th Number]

I hope its fake because it looks cheap. I would rather buy a regular PS3 for more money than have to buy this.

[blitz6speed]

A reliable sony insider told me it is real. They were not going to announce it at E3, but they may now because of the leak. Also, expect E3 to be amazing.

p.s. - Syphon Filter PS3 has been worked on for over a year, expect a big splash.

[PhrostByte]

Sent these to one of my client's that works for Sony after I saw your blog post. He responded with:

HAHA!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r258/dv8maddots/polystation-3.jpg

What is that?

[darknight88]

A reliable sony insider told me it is real. They were not going to announce it at E3, but they may now because of the leak. Also, expect E3 to be amazing.

p.s. - Syphon Filter PS3 has been worked on for over a year, expect a big splash.

WUT? I dont believe you. Theres no such thing as annoucing something based on a leak.

Damn the PS3 lost a lot of weight! :)

The system could use a slimmer model though. It probably wouldn't increase sales because no one is buying the current version, but I wouldn't mind picking up a slimmer PS3 down the road a couple years from now.

When PS3 dropped to $400 bucks and 360 didnt have its own $199 price drop, it was outselling the 360 every month. A $299 price drop on the PS3 will really boost PS3 sales.

[surak]

I'm skeptical of the pics for sure. The supposed redesign doesn't make much sense. It's now too narrow to stand on its side, yet still very wide and deep. Japanese consumers who prefer smaller footprinted electronics that will actually fit in their small apartments are not going to jump up to get this form factor.

[tankass]

i wouldnt be surprised if that was a real slim version because if the heating is an issue they can take the MS route and just ignore what heat does to the system and just sell it anyway. kinda like when companies calculate the cost of the lawsuits compared to the cost of a recall except they know there will be no recall. And MS has proven that proper marketing can cover any kinds of mistakes the product may have.

[Shrapnellistic]

@ surak (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=49238)
It's now too narrow to stand on its side, yet still very wide and deep.Cheap base mold - a'la PS2.

http://www.game-accessories.com/catalog/images/PS2-M-VS3in1.jpg

http://www.channelmax.net/users/gameznetwork/images/ps2stand.jpg
This held the PS2 slim in-place.

[surak]

@ surak (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=49238)
Cheap base mold - a'la PS2.

http://www.game-accessories.com/catalog/images/PS2-M-VS3in1.jpg

http://www.channelmax.net/users/gameznetwork/images/ps2stand.jpg
This held the PS2 slim in-place.

I would be surprised if they go that route, because it makes slimming up a PS3 with only a negligible reduction in width and depth that much more pointless.

[HowStern]

Now I know most people don't realize it's only a redesign of the top plastic encasing.

Look at the box pic. The ps3 on there looks like a regular PS3 but with a different top.

The pictures are just of the top plastic piece. Not the whole system.

edit: on another site they have some more pics and one looks like it may be a different bottom?

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/playstation-3-news/rumor-new-ps3-design-leaked-levelup-just-knockoff-105997.html

[Nogib]

Idk...part of me thinks that it could be fake, but there are some things that give it credibility.

Think about it, none of those knock-off fake system clones are ever dumb enough to infringe on Sony's name. Yet this case clearly has the Sony logo built in on the left front of it. Not to mention the Sony logo on the box. These are not the things you'd find on fake knock-offs. The one thing that makes it iffy is the new "PS3" logo. It could very well be Sony is trying to repair brand image by breaking free of the old Playstation 3 typeset.

Who knows though. I'm leaning towards this possibly being real. Can't dismiss it outright, can't blindly accept it either. Guess we'll find out for sure down the road.

[el_cheezer]

I'd buy into this. I don't know that we'll see it any time soon, but I'd buy that Sony is looking into making the PS3 look sleeker and making it less of a dirt magnet. I don't know that this is the Slim version, just a sleeker looking version of the current PS3.

Kinda how Apple rounded out the corners on the iPod. The features don't actually change much, but the casing does. E3 just keeps getting more interesting with all these 'leaks' going around.

[Anexanhume]

There's a good NeoGaf thread about it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361611&page=8

I'm waiting utilE3, but I'm also holding off on buying now just to make sure. I mean, with the new smaller cell and RISC chips, it's not a huge logical leap to slim the model down. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if the redesign is attempting to make it resemble a PS2

...I kinda want a 60GB model though for BC. I'm seriously sick of all this console clutter.

RSX is the codename for the GPU. RISC is a cpu architecture methodology.

[Shrapnellistic]

@ surak (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=49238)
I would be surprised if they go that route, because it makes slimming up a PS3 with only a negligible reduction in width and depth that much more pointless.The convex "grill" of the top looks like it gives the system more stability while vertical [compared to the PS2 slim] so it probably won't need a base anyways.

[steveinneed]

Looks fake to me. Either way, it looks like shit compared to the regular ps3.

[Darknyss]

It looks real enough to be real, in my opinion. However, it still looks like it has close to the same footprint as the current PS3 so I'm not sure how desirable it would be to current owners. Plus it would be pretty tough for me to give up 2 extra USB ports and memory card reader. I actually use those more than BC!

[Monsta Mack]

Yeap Sin pretty much confirmed It's real. He's one of those "Sony" Insiders and has always been right... if I am to believe what everyone says. He's gunning for Sept.

Slim PS3 will probably help them cut costs amongst other things and have the few naysayers (such as myself) buy a PS3 in the long run.

[KingBroly]

Yeap Sin pretty much confirmed It's real. He's one of those "Sony" Insiders and has always been right... if I am to believe what everyone says. He's gunning for Sept.

Slim PS3 will probably help them cut costs amongst other things and have the few naysayers (such as myself) buy a PS3 in the long run.

Do you think Sony's going to do the price cut, but it's not a price cut thing with this? I think it'll happen.

[Monsta Mack]

With their financial situation they can't really afford a price cut, and I'm guessing the slim is a long term project to reduce costs. Maybe a price cut next year instead? Or just more bundles *shrugs*.

[TheInfiniteAmmo]

I'm guess no one noticed that the PS3 image on the box is NOT the console shown in the other images?

It's fake, and pretty obvious at that.

[mykevermin]

I'm guess no one noticed that the PS3 image on the box is NOT the console shown in the other images?

It's fake, and pretty obvious at that.

? The whole console is only shown on the box. Most of the other pics are of the console shell - and just the top at that.

[screwkick]

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090513/slim_ps3_270x333.jpg

[blitz6speed]

I'm guess no one noticed that the PS3 image on the box is NOT the console shown in the other images?

It's fake, and pretty obvious at that.

Get glasses.

[Shrapnellistic]

@ TheInfiniteAmmo (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=202038)
I'm guess no one noticed that the PS3 image on the box is NOT the console shown in the other images?

It's fake, and pretty obvious at that.The only obvious thing is that there's a lip in the box art [underneath] where the disc is put in; could be placeholder art or maybe the lip can hide in the PS3.

[DarkNessBear]

Uh - I'll vote probable. Though it looks a little ugly as of now.

[help1]

Too ugly to be true. The actual ps3 is pretty good looking, this looks like crap.

[dastly75]

It looks the same as the regular PS3 now but without the gloss.

[Ecofreak]

It could very well be something viral that Sony is doing to create more buzz for the PS3 prior to E3.

From what I'm reading on these boards and a few others, a good percentage of individuals are waiting for a price drop and/or redesign. Perhaps by floating out these rumors, people will pay more attention to Sony at this year's E3 than last year and conclude, "The heck with it! I can't wait any more! *runs out to buy a system*"

I call shenanigans, however, unless someone can prove that PS3s are made in China.

[KingBroly]

It could very well be something viral that Sony is doing to create more buzz for the PS3 prior to E3.

From what I'm reading on these boards and a few others, a good percentage of individuals are waiting for a price drop and/or redesign. Perhaps by floating out these rumors, people will pay more attention to Sony at this year's E3 than last year and conclude, "The heck with it! I can't wait any more! *runs out to buy a system*"

I call shenanigans, however, unless someone can prove that PS3s are made in China.

Don't you mean unless you can't prove they're made in China? All the consoles are made in China.

[el_cheezer]

I wonder if this isn't going to be Sony's cheap version of the PS3. No BC, no memory card slots, no wireless, and only 1 USB port. Bundle in a couple of Greatest Hits/PSN games and toss in a decent size hard drive and you've got your $199-$249 version of the console that you can sell to the masses. You sell a bunch of them, and as the regular SKU drops price, you phase this one out.

That makes more sense to me than it actually being the slim version.

[Vanigan]

At this point, the system needs a radical redesign and a relaunch to gain back some momentum.

They could also have the opportunity to include one of those new motion controllers they're working on.

Not to mention any major revision would also include a plethora of cost reducing measures.

[pochaccoheaven]

i don't even understand how people would even consider this to be plausible. there is a particular reason as to why the current ps3 is the size that it is and i don't see a redesign of the system anytime soon until they are able to consider the cost. this is just a hoax or in this case BS.

we will never see a redesign not maybe until another 2 years or more [i'm thinking 5 years]. to reduce the size of the gpu and cell processors into a size that is heat sufficient will be a long time.

[TruthinessFC]

Looks like BS to me.

[darknight88]

i don't even understand how people would even consider this to be plausible. there is a particular reason as to why the current ps3 is the size that it is and i don't see a redesign of the system anytime soon until they are able to consider the cost. this is just a hoax or in this case BS.

we will never see a redesign not maybe until another 2 years or more [i'm thinking 5 years]. to reduce the size of the gpu and cell processors into a size that is heat sufficient will be a long time.

Why would Sony wait that long when PS3 is doing terrible? They need to inject some new batteries to the damn thing. Im pretty sure they'll announce the price drop at E3 and annouce the new model around Fall to be released Holiday 09.

Dont get me wrong. I thought the same thing. Why release the Slim so soon? Well they need to this time and they have been working on the 45nm chips for some time so its plausible that a Slim model is hitting soon.(Fall 09)

[pochaccoheaven]

Why would Sony wait that long when PS3 is doing terrible? They need to inject some new batteries to the damn thing. Im pretty sure they'll announce the price drop at E3 and annouce the new model around Fall to be released Holiday 09.

Dont get me wrong. I thought the same thing. Why release the Slim so soon? Well they need to this time and they have been working on the 45nm chips for some time so its plausible that a Slim model is hitting soon.(Fall 09)

price drop and a new model. it's a stupid idea because you're losing money in reducing the price and reducing money by spending more on new designs. it needs to be one or the other or none. if it was both ways then it simply means sony retardation. they can however attract sales by doing what they did in japan, release new colors and designs [like a special edition ps3 with yakuza 3 designs or a resident evil 5 them ...].

[darknight88]

price drop and a new model. it's a stupid idea because you're losing money in reducing the price and reducing money by spending more on new designs. it needs to be one or the other or none. if it was both ways then it simply means sony retardation. they can however attract sales by doing what they did in japan, release new colors and designs [like a special edition ps3 with yakuza 3 designs or a resident evil 5 them ...].

you are right, in a slumping economy the PS3 at $400 will sale well by releasing new colors, compared to its competition which is selling for Half. Yup because thats what the consumers in a bad economy want expensive electronics with varied color sets. :roll:

April's NPDs clearly show that consumers will not be shelling 400 bucks easily for a console.

[el_cheezer]

April's NPDs clearly show that consumers will not be shelling 400 bucks easily for a console.This is why I think this isn't the slim. I think it's the super gimped, nothing but a BD drive, HDD and a wired connection version of the PS3. The tard pack did great for MS. I'm thinking Sony might be trying the same thing instead of just dropping the price all across the board.

[mykevermin]

This is why I think this isn't the slim. I think it's the super gimped, nothing but a BD drive, HDD and a wired connection version of the PS3. The tard pack did great for MS. I'm thinking Sony might be trying the same thing instead of just dropping the price all across the board.

The hardware revisions that they have done on the PS3 itself has shown, however, that they've been able to 'gimp' (as you put it) the system without largely changing much. The R&D necessary to develop a new console design is far greater than if they simply continued to strip things out of the current model design.

Given your description of a "gimped" design, however, what is significant that all PS3 models offer that would be lost, aside from wireless?

[Frogurt.man]

http://gear.ign.com/articles/983/983284p1.html

I understand that they are not a newspaper but how does garbage like this get greenlit?

[Richlough]

http://gear.ign.com/articles/983/983284p1.html

I understand that they are not a newspaper but how does garbage like this get greenlit?

Getting your hands on a Game Informer 3 days before the public, gives one god-like knowledge above any and all customers .
Not to mention the area behind the counter gives all employees a +5 to their know-it-all attribute .
;)

[Vanigan]

Ugh, bad reporting.

Here's the big thing though, we all know the initial design of the PS3 was flawed, it's main flaw was cost.

A new PS3 sku is very much plausible, assuming its purpose was cost savings. It could use a completely new bluray drive, a cheaper storage, and have less ports to cost money. A slimmer form would also cut down on materials costs. Also, while the costs to retool would be high, this new design might also employ features that cut down on the costs of manufacturing itself (not just materials, but time and tooling costs).

Yes, it unlikely that this is true, however, it's still pretty plausible that Sony would take this drastic measure of creating a new model, especially when something "new" and less expensive is pretty much what they need right now.

Personally, I don't think this is real, it's probably just a hoax. However, we all can be pretty certain that somewhere Sony is working on another SKU with a different form factor and cheaper production costs.

[Sharp Katana]

i heard they were making a slim ps3. But like someone else said, it just looks like an over sized psp battery =/ .

[Thomas96]

I think that the pics are real. The main thing is the box, but also, there's another pic that's not shown in this set [see additional bottom plate here - http://kotaku.com/5253475/are-these-the-first-pics-of-the-ps3-slim] where it shows the bottom plate of the newly designed PS3. Bascially on that bottom plate the design is the same as the original PS2 where you can insert the plastic screw covers

examples - http://www.exploitstation.com/articles/ps2repair/images/ps2%20repair_img_0.jpg
http://www.thepriors.idps.co.uk/clean_ps2_laser/images/ps2cover1.JPG


Because the design of the bottom plate is so similar to what we've seen from previous Sony products I think that could be considered as a factor in determining these pics as real. But that's the info that made me come to a conclusion that the pics are real...

I guess at this point all we can do is guess (or use the force to search our feelings..)

[Thomas96]

This is why I think this isn't the slim. I think it's the super gimped, nothing but a BD drive, HDD and a wired connection version of the PS3. The tard pack did great for MS. I'm thinking Sony might be trying the same thing instead of just dropping the price all across the board.

lol why do you have to call it the "tard" pack... lol. If you're right, I hope that it sales for 249 - 300, but I don't think so, because they're giving away a 120gb hdd w/ the system. Although, that would be one heck of a 300 dollar system - [the extra space would be good for those array of PSN titles that are coming] ALso, sometimes, having the "tard" pack will push people to buy the higher version.. people may go in looking at the tard pack and may see more value in the next pack, even if its a hundred dollars more.

An example of this would be Walmarts price / product strategy - Walmart has their tard pack (aka Sams Club) version of everything... people see that version and then decide to buy another product that's a bit better; and when they do that's when walmart would slightly over charge the customer (which is why they had to get rid of the "always the lowest prices" slogan).

[Vitality X]

If this was real, wouldn't they at least advertise it as being the "new ps3"? Nowhere on the box does it mention "new ps3" or "ps3 slim" (unless the box was just a prototype). At least with the case of the ps2 slim's boxing, they showed a side picture and called it a slim ps2. I really don't know though. From what I've heard, ps3s are made in factories with pink work areas, and the pics do seem to have just that. Personally, I don't like the look (if that is really the look of the finished product). It looks flimsy, something a chinese knock off would look like.

[Richlough]

Now that I look at the image of the bottom cover there's no way this is real because the mold injection birthmark spot is way too close to the PS3 logo .
If there was a screw location near the birthmark for a sticker to cover up I'd reconsider my stance on this .
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/05/ps3_more_casing.jpg
That mold mark could easily be put on the inside of the finished part .

[optimusprime8062]

Well, this mock up of the PS3 looks OK. I mean this image IS fake of course but still...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/02/slim_ps3.jpg

[Richlough]

Well, this mock up of the PS3 looks OK. I mean this image IS fake of course but still...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/02/slim_ps3.jpg

I hate that pic .
It's just the top of a normal PS3 with a photoshopped bottom .
Very little effort went into it .

[js1]

Now that I look at the image of the bottom cover there's no way this is real because the mold injection birthmark spot is way too close to the PS3 logo .
If there was a screw location near the birthmark for a sticker to cover up I'd reconsider my stance on this .
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/05/ps3_more_casing.jpg
That mold mark could easily be put on the inside of the finished part .

Good point Richlough, another thing that bothers me is why is the PS3 logo on the bottom of the unit as well? I guess we will just have to wait until E3 to find out what the real deal will be. If this is real, and is a much cooler running, lower energy cost effective,plus if this one would not be a dust magnet like the current models, then I might be really interested in buying it.

[soriku]

This ps3 slim is a fake. Look at the box they spelled it as PlayStation 3 instead of PLAYSTATION 3. Doesn't Sony officially spell it as PLAYSTATION 3 ?

[Shrapnellistic]

@ soriku (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=57617)
http://www.jackethead.com/kizza/junk/PS2_box.jpg
It's because with the current PS3 models they use the Spider-Man font and that only uses capital letters.

[Thomas96]

Good point Richlough, another thing that bothers me is why is the PS3 logo on the bottom of the unit as well? I guess we will just have to wait until E3 to find out what the real deal will be. If this is real, and is a much cooler running, lower energy cost effective,plus if this one would not be a dust magnet like the current models, then I might be really interested in buying it.

I thought maybe (if its real) the logo was on the bottom so that it can be seen when the system is in the vertical position.

[cochesecochese]

The hardware revisions that they have done on the PS3 itself has shown, however, that they've been able to 'gimp' (as you put it) the system without largely changing much.

Double trouble. I'd even go so far as to say that if you're using the PS3 just for next gen features and not worrying about backpat you're getting a better product. My 80 gig runs much quieter and cooler than my 60 gig ever did and I have never missed the two extra usb ports. The newest boards and the 3rd gen heatsink are fuckin beautiful.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/983/983284p1.html

IGN can eat my asshole. That article is a fuckin disgrace.

edit: Right, yeah, my opinion on the whole thing. For starters, the font used in the PS3 logo makes me want to rip my eyes out. Uhhhh I'm not going to bother claiming the model's validity either way but I will definitely buy it if it turns out to be real.

[gunm]

More fuel to the fire?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/18/slim-ps3-update-mysterious-chinese-firm-issues-a-cease-and-desi/#continued

Sony is supposed to be saving "something big" for this E3. A slim, reduced priced PS3 would certainly be big.

I'm taking all this with a grain of salt, because honestly I just don't want to be disappointed, but I'm certainly up for getting another cheap blu-ray player for another room in the house. :p

[Thomas96]

Sony should just make PS3s and give Blu ray players the ability to play PS3 games. Make it so that no matter what you buy you get a game playing device.

[Teh Nitwit]

Sony should just make PS3s and give Blu ray players the ability to play PS3 games. Make it so that no matter what you buy you get a game playing device.

Yeah, make all Blu-ray players be PS3s... That makes perfect sense...:dunce:

[Danil ACE]

Copy and pasted...

"

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_4.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_5.jpg

The slots here fit perfectly with the I/O output of the latest motherboards:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_6.jpg

Other:

Original 60GB PS3 Motherboard, 180watt versus current 80GB, 110watt (which has 65nm CPU/GPU):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/60vs80.jpg

The standard workstations (as pointed out by Sin):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/pink_workstation.jpg

Thanks to west and iceatcs for angling the image correctly, the system is almost quadratic:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_7.jpg

Goldrusher has done a good job trying to fit the various pieces:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/PS3_Slim_Concept.jpg

So:

1. Convincing, professional chassis mold
2. Logo changed from PLAYSTATION 3 to PS3 which is logical, not proof for/against though
3. Packaging image is not shopped (though the pack itself might be custom made)
4. IBM have had the 45nm Cell in production (since mid 2008 I believe?), we all know the story about the general downsizing of PS3 components and lower power needs
5. Pink/green work stations! (same as background)
6. Sony shipped 10m PS3's in fiscal year 07 and 08 each, they are now (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361620) saying 13m for 09.
7. Maintek Computer located in Suzhou, China, manufactures PS3s. They brought down the thread (Chinese) that was hosting these images with cease and desist.

Don't expect this one at E3, not impossible but unlikely. Late summer/early fall."

[gunm]

E3 is the annouce platform for summer/fall releases. If there's any redesign coming this year, it will be announced at E3.

[Reality's Fringe]

Endgadget received a letter from a law-firm demanding the images of this machine be removed.

Indirect confirmation?

[gunm]

Yeah, I mentioned that a few posts up. :p

[seen]

Hmm, I'll wait to see if this is $300 since my PS3 needs to be repaired...Anyone clues mentioned about msrp?

[Blackout]

If this is true I'll get rid of my PS3 and pick this one up. This probably won't have any BC right?

[The 7th Number]

If this is true I'll get rid of my PS3 and pick this one up. This probably won't have any BC right?

Can i ask why you would do that?

[Blackout]

Can i ask why you would do that?


No you can't. :)

I have the 80 GB. I don't like the current PS3 model. It's too damn big and gets dirty way too easily. It's purely personal preference.

[Vanigan]

Okay, and now I think it's real, there's just so much good evidence that either it's a very elaborate hoax (so elaborate that you really can't blame anyone for thinking it's real) or it is indeed real.

There's two features I'd want to see that would make me consider selling my old backwards compatable PS3 for a new system. Turns out I don't use the BC all that much so I can do without.

First is the ability to use the Bluetooth 2 (or was that 3) feature that allows you to output all audio to a headset, not just voice comms, at high quality. This is already being used in portable media players like the Samsung P2 and P3, and there's already some good headphones/headsets out there that make use of this.

The second feature is for powered USB ports while the system is shut down (but not off via the back switch). It was seriously bad design to require the PS3 controllers to be recharged seperately via another USB device while there's 2 perfect good USB ports on the system.

I think many others here would also consider an upgrade if functionality was improved somehow.

[tinman_licks]

looks pretty genuine, esp the box art

[zewone]

Sony should just make PS3s and give Blu ray players the ability to play PS3 games. Make it so that no matter what you buy you get a game playing device.

Get a brain, moran.

[Thomas96]

Yeah, make all Blu-ray players be PS3s... That makes perfect sense...:dunce:



the only real difference is the casing... what is the difference between a 300 dollar PS3 and a 300 dollar blu ray player. Its clearly better for Sony to sell PS3s so make a Blu Ray player in a blu ray player case that has the extra feature to play ps3 games.

[Thomas96]

Get a brain, moran.

STFU - coward

[Thomas96]

what I was trying to say earlier is that Sony should make something equivalent to the Panasonic Q, keep it in a regular blu ray casing

[theflicker]

the only real difference is the casing... what is the difference between a 300 dollar PS3 and a 300 dollar blu ray player. Its clearly better for Sony to sell PS3s so make a Blu Ray player in a blu ray player case that has the extra feature to play ps3 games.

Isn't there more difference than just the casing? Do bluray players have a Cell processor?

[Thomas96]

Isn't there more difference than just the casing? Do bluray players have a Cell processor?

that's why I'm suggesting that they just add the chip to some of the blu ray player models and sell them as Blu ray players, but with PS3 gaming capability. Same blu ray casing, just an added chip for gaming functions - along w/ blue tooth and whatever else is needed. Like the Panasonic Q (which is the best example of what I'm thinking of... or rather the Sega CDX - which was like a regular CD player but it was also a Sega CD ) THe purpose of this is just to sell PS3s to those customers who may be looking for a Blu ray player only. Honestly, I like the blu ray player model designs better than I like the ps3 model design.

[SkankinRex]

that's why I'm suggesting that they just add the chip to some of the blu ray player models and sell them as Blu ray players, but with PS3 gaming capability. Same blu ray casing, just an added chip for gaming functions - along w/ blue tooth and whatever else is needed. Like the Panasonic Q (which is the best example of what I'm thinking of... or rather the Sega CDX - which was like a regular CD player but it was also a Sega CD ) THe purpose of this is just to sell PS3s to those customers who may be looking for a Blu ray player only. Honestly, I like the blu ray player model designs better than I like the ps3 model design.

I don't think you understand how any of this works at all...

[zewone]

I don't think you understand how any of this works at all...

He definitely doesn't. He thinks it's just magic inside a box.

[optimusprime8062]

Well anyways, I'm beginning to think this is real. After looking at the photo with all the parts put together it looks quite nice, and I may even consider buying one. Who knows? I'm actually for this.

[Thomas96]

I don't think you understand how any of this works at all...

how about you explain it to me.. right now.

[Thomas96]

He definitely doesn't. He thinks it's just magic inside a box.

you mean to tell me that a new model of PS3 can't be made using a more standard blu ray casing... of course there would be some differences.

you what makes you such a queef is that instead of trying to understand what I'm saying (assuming I'm saying it wrong) you try to make a joke of the situation. Its like you think you might be cool.. like Dilian from 91210.


or 90210.. you seem like the person that would like that type of garbage, probably have that game for your DS... Beverly Hills 90210 Touch

[zewone]

Because you're stupid. You think you know how shit works, but you're a retard with an IQ below 70, but you're too dumb to even notice.

[Anexanhume]

Thomas96, what you say wouldn't work because you can't just use a "chip" to add ps3 functionality to a blu ray player. It has special circuitry, including Input/Output functions, a graphics processing unit, and the cell processor. To make a blu-ray player be able to play ps3 games would for all intents and purposes, be a PS3 in a different casing. There's no cost-cutting going to come of it. And it wouldn't be a way to pander game capability to blu-ray owners, as that's what the ps3 already did early in its life. Now players can be had below 200 dollars. That market is gone for the ps3.

[gunm]

Er, back OT: 1UP made a good point about the engadget cease-and-desist. The "leak" could be for a "knockoff" system sold only in China, and the company responsible simply doesn't want Sony to sic their legal team on them.

[Monsta Mack]

Well since Sony sent their lawyers thata way, I gota assume this all but realz!

Speedy and CC anyone?

[mykevermin]

Er, back OT: 1UP made a good point about the engadget cease-and-desist. The "leak" could be for a "knockoff" system sold only in China, and the company responsible simply doesn't want Sony to sic their legal team on them.

ehhh....knockoff manufacturing company having a litigating itch? hard to believe. Sony having one? much easier to swallow.

[optimusprime8062]

Well since Sony sent their lawyers thata way, I gota assume this all but realz!

Speedy and CC anyone?


I heard it wasnt Sony (at least in Kotaku's case), but the factory that the photos are from...or something like that...so thats why there is still some speculation and what not.

Source:

Late last week, we posted what appeared to be the first pictures (http://kotaku.com/5253475/are-these-the-first-pics-of-the-ps3-slim) of the PLAYSTATION 3 (http://kotaku.com/tag/playstation-3/) "Slim". Taiwan-based attorney Li Mo & Associates contacted us, potentially giving credence to the validity of the pictures. In their email, the firm stated that these "trade secrets" had been posted online and demanded that the images be taken down "immediately" in a cease-and-desist. However, this legal notice did not come from Sony, who still has yet to comment on the images.

[Thomas96]

Because you're stupid. You think you know how shit works, but you're a retard with an IQ below 70, but you're too dumb to even notice.


And so that bother's you so much you feel the need to respond back.. you're in the PS3 forums, my area. Go back and talk shit in the Lifestyle & Off Topic area, like you normally do. I don't whose ovaries you borrowed, but I'm surprised you're bold enough to even talk trash to me directly. And give those ovaries back to their owner.

[Vanigan]

Seriously, both of you, take it to PMs.

You two are acting like little children with nothing better to do than annoy each other. No I don't care who started it.

So if you two don't settle down I swear I'm going to turn this topic right around! I mean it!

[Thomas96]

Thomas96, what you say wouldn't work because you can't just use a "chip" to add ps3 functionality to a blu ray player. It has special circuitry, including Input/Output functions, a graphics processing unit, and the cell processor. To make a blu-ray player be able to play ps3 games would for all intents and purposes, be a PS3 in a different casing. There's no cost-cutting going to come of it. And it wouldn't be a way to pander game capability to blu-ray owners, as that's what the ps3 already did early in its life. Now players can be had below 200 dollars. That market is gone for the ps3.

I understand that it would require more than just adding a chip.. the main issue is that is it even worth it do it. Like you said players can be had for under 200 dollars. It doesn't matter, its not like changing the PS3 casing to look more like a regular blu ray player is going to make an increase in sales.

[gunm]

ehhh....knockoff manufacturing company having a litigating itch? hard to believe. Sony having one? much easier to swallow.


Oh, I'm hoping the rumors are all true and this is a slimmer, cheaper PS3 for us all. But this is Sony we're talking about...

[Thomas96]

Oh, I'm hoping the rumors are all true and this is a slimmer, cheaper PS3 for us all. But this is Sony we're talking about...

This is the slimmer, cheaper PS3 for Sony, not for the consumers. I just don't think that any PS3 w/ a 120gb hd will be 300 dollars, or anything under 400. HOwever, if I'm wrong and this 120gb PS3 is 300 then I think its a good deal. Its important that Sony has a product that's not only cheap, but makes consumers feel like they're getting a good deal.

[optimusprime8062]

Well, hopefully if its cheaper to make, they will lower the price. However, I think they may keep it at the $399 price point and just hope demand goes up. I imagine that may work as well...

[gamerpro4000]

LOL this reminds me of the rip off version of PSP popstation made in china. You can look at the vid on youtube. its halarious.

[optimusprime8062]

LOL this reminds me of the rip off version of PSP popstation made in china. You can look at the vid on youtube. its halarious.

Here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXleDSkB-g)

I dont think its a PS3 version of that though, because they allready released the PS3 version of that...

Anyways, I cant wait until E3, I want to know whats up with this.

[seen]

^LOL, thanks this was a great laugh. This looks like an old school hand-helds where the images where already there and the light bold around the image to show you what path is being used.

[Cao Cao]

ehhh....knockoff manufacturing company having a litigating itch? hard to believe. Sony having one? much easier to swallow.

Not only that, but if they were really a knockoff manufacturer trying to hide from Sony, then one would have to question the wisdom of ordering lawyers to send out legal documentation, presumably with full contact information (Names, Address, and phone number of the legal firm), to news sites that likely have some sort of direct contact with Sony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a6lxiB1b_I

[TimPV3]

I saw an inFamous commercial today that had a different "Only on PLAYSTATION" ending to it. It said PS3 instead of PLAYSTATION 3 and it used the old school PlayStation sound from the early PS2 commercials. It's pretty obvious they're going for a re-branding like the box suggests.

[NamPaehc]

I saw an inFamous commercial today that had a different "Only on PLAYSTATION" ending to it. It said PS3 instead of PLAYSTATION 3 and it used the old school PlayStation sound from the early PS2 commercials. It's pretty obvious they're going for a re-branding like the box suggests.

Are you sure they are? Brand new bundle in the UK, using the spider-font still.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51W65BWVhsL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[Richlough]

I saw an inFamous commercial today that had a different "Only on PLAYSTATION" ending to it. It said PS3 instead of PLAYSTATION 3 and it used the old school PlayStation sound from the early PS2 commercials. It's pretty obvious they're going for a re-branding like the box suggests.

It reminds me of when SEGA brought back the SEGA scream .

[optimusprime8062]

They could be "easing" it in...like say changing the commercials a bit...then ...November rolls around and BAM! Newly branded and slim Playstation 3.

EDIT: Maybe "BAM!" isnt the best word usage when Im trying to make the point that they are possibly trying to make a smooth transition...but you get what Im saying here...

[NamPaehc]

They could be "easing" it in...like say changing the commercials a bit...then ...November rolls around and BAM! Newly branded and slim Playstation 3.

EDIT: Maybe "BAM!" isnt the best word usage when Im trying to make the point that they are possibly trying to make a smooth transition...but you get what Im saying here...


Ha ha, no that does make sense yes. :lol:

[Richlough]

Are you sure they are? Brand new bundle in the UK, using the spider-font still.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51W65BWVhsL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

New bundle , 'old' hardware . ;)

I wonder how Tobey McGuire feels about all of this ? :lol:

[Vanigan]

Could be that bundle is meant to get rid of extra stock of the old models. If there is a new model coming out it would be cheaper to produce, but not necessarily cheaper for us to buy considering Sony's stance on the price drop.

That or the whole line gets a series of price drops, with older models being cheaper and the newest model at around $350 or so.

[Retro Bros.]

Well I'm don't think its a far-fetched idea, but I can't really opinionate on them yet.

[mykevermin]

"opinionate."

[gunm]

So arstechnica is claiming their "mole" confirmed the rumor as true: Slim PS3 exists and will be ready by August/September. The "mole" says, however, that an announcement is not planned for E3.

[KingBroly]

Until something he says is false, there's no reason to not believe him.

[gunm]

At this point, the only question I have now is, "how much?" I'm guessing they're probably going to do another tempo drop to clear out the existing inventory, but will this newer PS3 be able to sustain a lower MSRP as well? Just because Sony can save money on the new production process, doesn't mean they are going to pass that on to the consumer since they are still so much in the hole with the hardware platform overall.

[Vanigan]

My bet is that there won't be a price drop, er, more likely a drop of the current models to clear them out. However, there will be a better bundle for the PS3.

[optimusprime8062]

My bet is that there won't be a price drop, er, more likely a drop of the current models to clear them out. However, there will be a better bundle for the PS3.

Thats what I'm thinking. I say slim PS3 for $399.99

[Richlough]

Rise .

http://kotaku.com/5305021/ps3-slim-entering-production-ready-by-july

Who knows ?

[RelentlessRolento]

bump

[Mojimbo]

Why the hell would you bump this with a bullshit mockup that was posted and clearly labeled as fake by the artist on GAF days ago?

[RelentlessRolento]

lol cuz i'm an idiot. why else?

[zewone]

lol cuz i'm an idiot. why else?

Why do you do this?

[RelentlessRolento]

Why do you do this?


it's ego reformat time.

[jer7583]

I bet they try to sell it for $500. Just like PSP Go.

[Ecofreak]

Let's add more fuel to the fire, shall we? (http://kotaku.com/5327710/german-amazon-lists-ps3-slim)

Earlier this May, supposed "leaked" photos from a Chinese plant showed what's reported to be the PS3 Slim. The German Amazon site now has a listing for "PlayStation 3 Konsole slim".

Googling the product code number does not show anything else but this listing on Amazon.de.

Retailer listings of unannounced products are always fishy. Ditto for this.

PlayStation 3 Konsole slim (http://www.amazon.de/Sony-PlayStation-3-Konsole-slim/dp/B002JM1GPU/)[Amazon.de Thanks, Daniel!]

[anubis20]

i have 2 ps3s, one original 60gb and one of the newer 80gb non-BC. If this thing can play ps2 games im getting rid of the 80gb and getting one of these

[silks]

Those crazy Germans and their konsoles!

[wwe101]

i dont give an F about the slim, but i would like that $100 price cut so i can get a ps3 already, my 360 and wii are lonely. they need a new freind

[Vanigan]

Considering that the current estimates for the cost cutting measures Sony has made on the the PS3 put it at 70% less to manufacture from release day, combined with this new model that's meant to take advantage of every possible cost cutting measure they have, this is going to happen, and I would not be surprised at all if there's a $100 price cut.

On launch day, assuming each PS3 cost around $700 USD to produce or more, 70% off that number is about $210. It's possible.

Part of the reason why they were able to pull this off is the bluray victory. All the cost cutting measures put into blurays for movies is being put into the PS3.

[blitz6speed]

Something ive been noticing for the past week or so, whenever i go to a walmart, i always stop by the electronics for some hot YMMV clearance action. Well, for the past week, 3 different walmarts, there has been 0 PS3s for sale. I even ask the employees who say they've been out of stock and do not know when they will get more in. Slim incoming?!

[Lynsanity]

I have seen quite a few at my local WMs. Perhaps they are clearing stock for something smaller...

[Fearia]

Personally, I don't care what the new PS3 looks like, or how much it's going to cost. I just want to know if the old PS3s will have BC finally via a firmware update.

[SynGamer]

Considering that the current estimates for the cost cutting measures Sony has made on the the PS3 put it at 70% less to manufacture from release day, combined with this new model that's meant to take advantage of every possible cost cutting measure they have, this is going to happen, and I would not be surprised at all if there's a $100 price cut.

On launch day, assuming each PS3 cost around $700 USD to produce or more, 70% off that number is about $210. It's possible.

Part of the reason why they were able to pull this off is the bluray victory. All the cost cutting measures put into blurays for movies is being put into the PS3.
Each PS3 (60GB model when it launched) cost over $800 to manufacture. So really it's now roughly $240 for Sony to produce a PS3. I would imagine once the RSX goes 45nm (later this year?) Sony will finally start making some decent money even at $299 where as if they do the cut now with a slim, they are only looking at about $40 profit on each PS3...

[Ecofreak]

I have seen quite a few at my local WMs. Perhaps they are clearing stock for something smaller...

Probably making room for more Easy Bake Ovens. I hear they're coming back in style in time for the Holiday season.

[Ecofreak]

Each PS3 (60GB model when it launched) cost over $800 to manufacture. So really it's now roughly $240 for Sony to produce a PS3. I would imagine once the RSX goes 45nm (later this year?) Sony will finally start making some decent money even at $299 where as if they do the cut now with a slim, they are only looking at about $40 profit on each PS3...

What what what?! Sony, making a profit on each PS3 sold? That would be an amazing day indeed -- I can't imagine the party Sony Corp. would hold.

[Lynsanity]

Only took 2.75 years...

[dallow]

Sam Bishop of IGN has basically confirmed either a price drop or the Slim announcement later this month with a post at GAF.

:rubs hands together:

[Vanigan]

It's both, a price drop can't come without the slim since the slim version is the one that includes all the cost cutting measures.

Since I already have a PS3, the only interest I have in it is if they include stuff like full software BC for PS2 (but even then I don't play PS2 games that much), AADP bluetooth support (put all audio through bluetooth, not just voice chat), and other things like an NXE style overhaul of the XMB, a better cross game invite system (there is actually an invite system in now, but it's stupid).

There are rumors that a new firmware 3.0 is schedules to coincide with the new PS3 slim, but so far there hasn't been much else to help confirm that.

[hypertails02]

Definitely before the Holiday Season.
Late October/Early November 2009 sounds about right.

[Cao Cao]

Some more rumor paper for the rumor fire:
http://kotaku.com/5329352/80gb-playstation-3-to-be-discontinued-in-japan

An alleged 7-11 Japanese memo says that they will not take any reservations for the PS3 80GB (All colors) in Japan after August 9th.

[munkyballz]

09-09-09.

[JMEPO]

Never Ever.

[StrandedBrit]

Tuesday 18th August between 6 and 9pm.

There, now close this thread. 8-)

EDIT: If not then it'll be between September 24 – 27.

[riseup21]

Definitely by years end. Its supposedly costing Sony 70% less to produce PS3's now. That, and they'll want to clear some inventory for the Slim launch.

[riseup21]

Actually, they've already started. Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/sonys-playstation-3-slim-to-debut-august-18th-at-cologne-gamesc/)

[KingBroly]

When does Madden 10 come out? That day.

[Serpentor]

Man, this stupid "rumor" suspense is killing me, so is this slim thing for real? It's August already, so where's the slim?

[KingBroly]

source?

[Paco]

Where exactly does it say no wifi?

[Serpentor]

8/18 then? Okay, we'll see...

[KingBroly]

It seems like the PS3 Slim's announcement is inevitable, and it looks like Sony is going to clear the retail shelves for it by dropping the price of the PS3 Fat to make room. So the question is what will the PS3 slim start at?

We've certainly seen Sony cut the price of older units to make way for the newer, higher priced model before (60gb to $500, 80gb with game for $600 rings a bell). So, will Sony stay that course here or will a new cheaper price be the standard?

[Hybrid5006]

$299 for a 120GB

[SynGamer]

I WANT $299...but Sony has been losing a lot of money on the PS3 for a while now so I could see them pricing it at $349 bundled with a game (KZ2 or GT5?). While the $299 price point will break a lot of mental barriers, Sony may go the financial route and price it at $349 :( We'll see in a couple weeks.

[KMunley]

I'm hoping for the $300, but I'm expecting a $400 maybe bundled with a game like Kill Zone 2.

[trq]

If it isn't $299, it's really a "why bother?" scenario. I mean, I can see Sony pulling one of their usual moves and charging more than they should and tossing in a game, but that's not going to move many units. The issue with the PS3 is price, so "adding value" is wasting time.

[Maphinoki]

It better be cheaper than a Ps3, that's for sure. I'm hoping for a $300 release.

[A Happy Panda]

I think a lot of people (me included) are voting for what they think it SHOULD ($299) launch at, not what it COULD. It definitely could launch at $350 with a game bundled in.

[StrandedBrit]

I could see 'em launching it at $350 and putting the rest of the 80s on clearance for $300 and then once they've cleared out make the slim $300.

Who knows.

[anubis20]

$300 with BC and im trading my 80gb non BC in, im definitely keeping my 1st gen 60gb ps3.

[silverwolf0]

I wouldn't mind it being $399 like their current 80GB model. Increase the HD space to 120GB and have a slimmer, more efficient PS3. Backwards compatibility isn't a necessity or something I covet. I have a silver PS2 slim on my desk right now. It plays PS2 games and was only $99, not to mention is 20x more power efficient than any PS3 playing back PS2 games, will work with 100% of them, and helps make the PS3 cheaper without adding more bloat. Free BC support via firmware update as rumored would be great, but I'm not holding my breath since that would be a lot of flip flopping on Sony's PS2 support and the sales of individual PS2 units is a good tourniquet for a bleeding Sony company.

[JJSP]

I'll say $349 for a 120GB, with the old systems dropping to $299 to clear them off of shelves.

[Ecofreak]

I'll say $349 for a 120GB, with the old systems dropping to $299 to clear them off of shelves.

This has my vote. If the Slim launches at $400, people will scream "BLOODY MURDER" even if the Phats are cut to $300. Perhaps it'll be more palpable if a few games are bundled as previously mentioned.

[crzyjoeguy]

my money is on $399.99

[Earmuffin585]

Is the ps3 slim going to be like the ps3 but slimmer? If it less powerful or is there any cons from buying the ps3 slim instead of ps3.

[SynGamer]

-External Power supply.
- made cheaper with lower quality components possibly higher failure rate, Current PS3's are tried and true workhorses with a 1% or less failure rate. Slim PS3 is un-tested un proven no one knows.

Reports are that the power supply are still internal but we'll find out soon enough. I twill consume less power though, will still play PS3 games just as well as current PS3s, nothing to really worry about.

[H.Cornerstone]

-External Power supply.
- made cheaper with lower quality components possibly higher failure rate, Current PS3's are tried and true workhorses with a 1% or less failure rate. Slim PS3 is un-tested un proven no one knows.

Doubt Sony will go with external power supply.

Keep in mind the reason they can make the slim is because the RSX and Cell are now both 45 nm chips which means they let of a lot less heat so you don't need as many fans/heat sinks etc which is why it can be made smaller.

[mastagoalie]

fyi (sorry if I am redundant)

did you know while on the ps3 consumes 500 watts of power? and standby is 120... damn that's some heat!

[Furashu]

-
- made cheaper with lower quality components possibly higher failure rate, C


yes did the intewebz tell u this. or that 3 year old across the street.


yes its also clear that since the ps2 was slimmed down they also used crappier parts because they have mastered manufacturing and thus went with the crappiest possible components

[Phunin]

I don't think they're created with lower quality parts, I think they just found new/different technology at a cheaper price. Or production costs just shift, I dunno. But lower quality parts that may hinder it's gaming performance, I highly doubt.

[SynGamer]

I don't think they're created with lower quality parts, I think they just found new/different technology at a cheaper price. Or production costs just shift, I dunno. But lower quality parts that may hinder it's gaming performance, I highly doubt.

The CELL, RSX, and Blu-ray drive have all come down in price, which were quite expensive when the PS3 launched. I think they were each around $100 (each) to manufacture, plus the other costs and components.

[depascal22]

knowing Sony the ps1 slim and ps2 slim were all more expensive

the ps3 slim will be more expensive also But cheapest of all for them to make that way they drop prices but still make more profit

because they will be making more profit off a $399 Slim vs a $399 80GB because the slim is cheaper for them to make

This man speaks the truth. You guys keep forgetting that Sony has done the "Slim" redesign twice and has never launched it at a cheaper price than the "Phat".

I voted $399 and I don't think it will come bundled with anything.

[SynGamer]

This man speaks the truth. You guys keep forgetting that Sony has done the "Slim" redesign twice and has never launched it at a cheaper price than the "Phat".

I voted $399 and I don't think it will come bundled with anything.

Sony hasn't been in this position of losing this much money EVER, though. The PS1 was a success and the PS2 basically turned the gaming industry upside-down with it's mega-success. But with the PS3, it's been extremely expensive to manufacture and a very slow start in terms of units sold. Sony NEEDS to get PS3's into homes so that people will buy the software (games and Blu-ray movies). Only way to do that is to bite the bullet and price it lower than the current model. I voted for $349 even though I want $299. Sony will still make a good amount of profit on the PS3 Slim at $349, but I don't think that's low enough yet to persuade consumers...

[depascal22]

Very nice points but this is the same company that just priced the PSP GO at $249. The Slim will probably be $349 (or even lower) by this time next year but it'll probably launch at a higher price point to take advantage of the people that will buy it at any price.

[Furashu]

$349 for a 80gb.

[Ryukahn]

Very nice points but this is the same company that just priced the PSP GO at $249. The Slim will probably be $349 (or even lower) by this time next year but it'll probably launch at a higher price point to take advantage of the people that will buy it at any price.

I voted for $299 earlier, but this right here makes me think $299 won't be the price.

[BlueLobstah]

But keep in mind that the PS3 is also in a completely different market than the PSX/PS2/PSP so it's not completely fair to assume they will attempt to gouge consumers here. At 50+ million units for the PSP, Sony doesn't need to be as competitive in order to sell a new revision. But then again, it is Sony.

With both the PSX and PS2, Sony could easily afford not to lower the price significantly because they already held a large market-share. This isn't so much the case with the PS3 as it lags behind the number of units in home compared to the Wii and the 360, so I don't feel 100% certain they can afford the risk of keeping the same price.

If they can produce units cheaply enough, Sony needs the $299 point in order to have that competitive edge against the 360 and Wii. I feel there's a 50/50 chance that the slim will launch at $299, but any higher than $349 will be a shot in the proverbial PS3 foot, and I'm not sure if even $349 is enough for a big console push.

Also something else to take into consideration, is that Sony has to still be making a pretty penny off PS2 sales, so if PS2 BC is included into the slim/new firmware this will likely cannibalize some of the current PS2 sales. Yet another factor which may affect the price point of the slim.

[Magus8472]

Probably two SKUs at 80/120 GB (or maybe 120/160) at $299/$349.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if it was still $399.

[Earmuffin585]

hmmm...good thing it won't affect the sound and video quality.

[TimPV3]

Is the ps3 slim going to be like the ps3 but slimmer? If it less powerful or is there any cons from buying the ps3 slim instead of ps3.I don't know, let me grab mine and check...

[Danil ACE]

It should be $299 if Sony actually wants people to buy it.

But then again, this is the same company that priced the UMDless PSP Go at $250...

[dv8mad]

I voted $399.
I wouldn't imagine that they want to spend the time and effort to make these revisions and then charge less for a system than they do now.
Not only that, but they'll want to get rid of all the older systems as well, although I don't even think they will drop the price on any of the older systems with the idea being to get them to the stores to check out the new system and then bite on the "discount" model.
Makes it look like a price drop although it isn't.

[kevlar51]

I don't think Sony has gotten over their own arrogance. As others have said above: $249 for a PSPGo?

The fact of the matter is that if Sony honestly knew what they needed to do to remain competitive, they'd have dropped the price on the current system months ago. Instead, they increase features and charge the same price, oblivious to the fact that the price is the factor, not what you get for the price.

[Aceboogz]

Fuck... i just bought a 80gb ps3 bundle with MGS4 and KillZone2 and then this happens..

WASTE OF MY MONEY :<

[FroMann]

350 for basic model. 400 for a special bundle.

[evergoo]

My guess is $399 with big hdd (120 GB?), PS2 BC, and maybe any Greatest Hits title? Don't forget that this is Sony we're talking about. The company who wants to sell PSP Go for $249. The company who was resistant (for the longest time) on lowering down the PSP in order to compete with the DS. The company who boldly wanted us to get 2 jobs if we couldn't afford a PS3.

I also have a difficult time imagining retail stores carrying a $299 PS3 Slim right next to a $249 PSP Go. $349 at the cheapest for a bare bones package.

I'm not sure when Sony will finally be humbled but it took Nintendo 2 generations to realize their faults. Hopefully, Sony doesn't follow the same footsteps as Nintendo. On a side note, Nintendo better be careful because they're getting quite cocky with their lack of 1st-party support and over-saturation of shovelware.

[DarkNessBear]

No friggen idea. Hard to gauge Sony at times.

But, my guess is that if they do release it at 399 it will be bundled with either some games, blurays or extra accessories.

[Justin42]

If Sony actually wants the PS3 Slim to do what the PS3 Slim needs to do, they HAVE TO release it at $299. The problem is if any of the rumours I've heard are true -- such as a super tiny HD (40gb?), no wifi, etc-- it creates a gimped PS3. The PS3 is such an awesome media player that putting a small HD on it just defeats the purpose... Hard drives are cheap, they should have AT LEAST 80GB, Wifi is cheap... and I can't believe that after being on the market for 2 years, and some players available for $99, the Bluray component prices haven't dropped so much that Sony could release a $299 Slim with most of the currently available features.

[Bluth Superfan]

399 or bust. Sony might as well keep the carnival of stupid going for at least another holiday season.

[wwe101]

im just waiting for a $300 ps3 to buy one, i dont care if its black, white, slim, fat... as long as it goes down to $300 ill get one

[Magus8472]

If Sony actually wants the PS3 Slim to do what the PS3 Slim needs to do, they HAVE TO release it at $299. The problem is if any of the rumours I've heard are true -- such as a super tiny HD (40gb?), no wifi, etc-- it creates a gimped PS3.

Still, hasn't experience proven that people care about cost much more than all the nice but nonessential things you can build into the box? MS sold/sells plenty of Cores and Arcades despite the fact that they're "gimped." Hell, my 360 is an Arcade.

[Cao Cao]

Man, this stupid "rumor" suspense is killing me, so is this slim thing for real? It's August already, so where's the slim?

gamescom (http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/) in Cologne would be the event to watch. It's a big event, made to replace the Games Convention formerly held in Leipzig.

Notable? Sony has a press conference scheduled during gamescom. A three-hour (http://kotaku.com/5330640/brink-wet-red-steel-2-added-to-growing-gamescom-list) press conference on Tuesday, August 18th.

[Ecofreak]

Notable? Sony has a press conference scheduled during gamescom. A [url=http://kotaku.com/5330640/brink-wet-red-steel-2-added-to-growing-gamescom-list]three-hour (http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/) press conference on Tuesday, August 18th.

I wonder how much new material Sony will bring, as they already had a 3-hour conference during E3. But then again, perhaps the whole venue will be worth it if the PS3 Slim and release date for GT5 is announced since who really watches all 3 hours except for the people there?

[Phunin]

I'm really hoping this news is real, would be perfect for me since I'm purchasing a PS3 soon in time for Uncharted 2.

[Shrapnellistic]

Frakin' hoarders.

[chelosera91]

http://thebigmanandgarrett.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/exclusive-ps3-slim-best-buy-ad-leaked/

http://gizmodo.com/5336404/is-this-the-ps3-slim-in-a-kmart-flyer

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/08/PS3Slim500.jpg

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/TheBigManandGarrett/Picture1.jpg

What do you guys think?

[BannedEpisode]

I think its probably the photoshop but hey Ill take it with a grain of salt.

[Quillion]

I think this is in the wrong forum.

[Flak]

Sounds pretty damn good, but on the skeptical side, there's something about the design that doesn't quite mesh with their usual flyers.

[dinovelvet]

I think I'm more interested in MGS4 and Little big planet for $9.99!! I'll believe it if/when the real ad comes out.

[ShadowHero10]

Something about that looks fishy. The way the banner looks. But hell, 10 bucks for a new Little Big Planet! HAVE FAITH CAGS!

[darkpice]

Maybe its an early black friday scan?

edit: than again i doubt its a black friday scan cause of the madden 10 pic in there. unlikely that madden would still be full price come november.

[NamPaehc]

I think I'm more interested in MGS4 and Little big planet for $9.99!! I'll believe it if/when the real ad comes out.

Looks like it has some minor details on there about those. Perhaps you get those games for that price if you also buy the slim PS3 too.

[lwelyk]

Probably fake, I doubt it'd have as detailed info about the slim and there's no way they'd have all those games for $10.

[Texan26]

It looks like it says "available 9/6" underneath the 299.98 price

[dinovelvet]

Something about that looks fishy. The way the banner looks. But hell, 10 bucks for a new Little Big Planet! HAVE FAITH CAGS!

The 9.99 on LBP is the most shocking part of the ad. One of the biggest and best selling PS3 games, that still retails for $60 everywhere, is suddenly going to plummet to ten bucks? Big WTF on that.

[slidecage]

ad is a FAKE

just look at the games below it.. There is no way in hell best buy will sell those for 9.99 each

[MuzykMann]

I'm not so sure they could be selling Uncharted for $10, but if so I'm ALL over it. Been waiting for a good price on that and MGS4.

[chelosera91]

Looks like it has some minor details on there about those. Perhaps you get those games for that price if you also buy the slim PS3 too.

This

[thingsfallnapart]

I find it hard to believe Uncharted would drop rite from 60 new to 10.

[coolz481]

when you go to the enlarged pictures on the site link - it shows a release date of 9/6 and I think it also says 'full backwards compatibility' - if so, this is huge (not that I believe it!)

I'll definitely pick up Uncharted and MGS4 again if they go on sale for $10

[dinovelvet]

Looks like it has some minor details on there about those. Perhaps you get those games for that price if you also buy the slim PS3 too.

That would make a little more sense and would be a great incentive to get people into BB. Can anyone read the two words under the $9.99 tag? something "titles", I think?

[daladezman]

yeah those games are the bigger deal to me, but it does not seem likely whatsoever

[Dendaman]

100% fake. Between the $10 games and the fact that it's a 160 gig AND fully BC for $300...no.

[polishpride212]

when you go to the enlarged pictures on the site link - it shows a release date of 9/6 and I think it also says 'full backwards compatibility' - if so, this is huge (not that I believe it!)

I'll definitely pick up Uncharted and MGS4 again if they go on sale for $10

Not to mention it has 4 USBs and memory card slots.

I would go for the same games.

[option.iv]

What's with the text "The slim is in", it looks crooked.

Even the price is crooked and not lined up with the tag.

So bullshit.

[thingsfallnapart]

If this ad was real people be lining up at best buy out here rite now. lawl.

[polishpride212]

It is fake. It is the same picture posted on the amazon page. Not to mention Sony has never used slim as a name for their console.

[thingsfallnapart]

lets not forget all the way to the right its bioshock.

[shrike4242]

It's a image editing job. Take a look at the specs on there:

160GB HD
4 USB ports
full BC
memory card reader

The memory card reader, 4 USB ports and full BC were part of the 20GB and 60GB models and dropped on the other ones.

[TheMan70]

looks fake because of the border around the Ps3, most of the best buy ads dont do that kind of thing.

[FadeToOne]

Just saw this:

http://thebigmanandgarrett.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/exclusive-ps3-slim-best-buy-ad-leaked/

It might be photoshopped, but that's a hell of a deal on some of those games, and reminds me of the rumor-then-true $10 Best Buy game deal from a few months ago.

The text seems to say full compatibility is back... I don't know how likely that is, so chalk this one up as "maybe."

Feel free to move this to the garbage if everybody comes to a consensus on it being fake.

[major morgan]

There is so much space between the numbering of 299.99 and 59.99. I've never seen a BB ad do that before.

Even if the slim were released on 9/6, I doubt it would be for 299.99 and have all those features.

[anathema728]

too good to be true

definately would be some campouts if it was true

[evophile]

I can't tell by the small size but that pic of the PS3 Slim is the fan made mock up from Neogaf I believe.

[deneem4]

it always say to have a memory card reader

[KingBroly]

The PS3 used in the "ad" is a photoshop by a NeoGaf user, so it's fake.

[iNCREDiPiNOY]

Again? Where is Samsung 52" HDTV for $9.99? LOL!

[Teh Nitwit]

100% fake. People, think before you propagate this bs. The author of that fake image is having orgasm as we speak. Don't reward/encourage this shit.

[Ski Hawk]

Its fake

[confoosious]

That font is all wrong. THis is so fake.

And also not in the right forum.

ghey

[FadeToOne]

That font is all wrong. THis is so fake.

And also not in the right forum.

ghey

Well, if it's real, then it's a deal and it's the right forum.

But yeah, I just noticed the games don't even have the red greatest hit bars on them, so that can't help it.