PSP Go thread-

[ecmazza]

yeah PSPgo looks like an epic fail. Money is better spent on a Wii or Xbox (heck maybe even a backup Xbox in case you RRoD).

The PSPgo gives you less options on how to play your games compared to current models and costs almost $100 more. Lame.

[vherub]

too bad the screen is smaller, the large psp logo is stealing precious real estate
i wonder what change going digital distribution will have on psp piracy

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm downloading the Media Go now:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/mediago/default_ENU.asp?page=download

I hope it's better than the media manager...

[FroMann]

It is still 50 dollars cheaper than a 16 GB iPod Touch.

[fatez]

how does sony justify charging more to downgrade? :x

[h3llbring3r]

It is still 50 dollars cheaper than a 16 GB iPod Touch.

And does less.
Probably not for long, Fry's & BBy have been doing $229 16gb touches lately-

I'm betting it does an official accross the board drop before the PSP go is even on the shelves.

[silent h3ro]

h3llbring3r, engadget posted some hands on pics you should add to the OP. I think it looks a lot better in person.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/psp_go37.jpg

[Bluth Superfan]

too bad the screen is smaller, the large psp logo is stealing precious real estate
i wonder what change going digital distribution will have on psp piracy

I'm betting zero since Sony is doing the right thing and doing retail and same day DD from here on out. There will still be plenty of UMDs out there for pirates to rip.

[lilboo]

$250? ......

[h3llbring3r]

h3llbring3r, engadget posted some hands on pics you should add to the OP. I think it looks a lot better in person.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/psp_go37.jpg
Interesting, it looks aesthetically a little better (not much)- but even more worrisome in the comfortable to play department (that nub-reach really looks painful, without any DS1-3-like hand support for long term play). I don't want to constantly have to rest it on a wrenched finger for support like is shown in the picture.

[Javery]

Damn those shoulder buttons look tough to hit. I'd also be concerned about it slipping out of my hands since it looks so top-heavy. Does Sony do any focus testing on their products?

[mis0]

$249 doesn't seem too bad. Cheaper than an iPod.. Bleh.

[h3llbring3r]

$249 doesn't seem too bad. Cheaper than an iPod.. Bleh.
Shut-up Mr. Twist.

[The 7th Number]

I wonder if you can download games via USB or something, since i dont have wifi internet.

[FriskyTanuki]

I wonder if you can download games via USB or something, since i dont have wifi internet.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/mediago/default_enu.asp

[mykevermin]

Stiffing the awesome people who own Macs, eh?

Not that I was going to drop $250 for a console that's less useful than the one from 2-thousand-fucking-5 anyway.

[FriskyTanuki]

What came out in 2003?

[manlai]

They really didn't address anything I'd want in a PSP upgrade - high price, still the same horrible analog nub and still only 1 at that, and zero backwards compatibility. Relatively speaking, comfort looks to be a wash. Oh, the biggest thing, they're trying to kill the second hand game market since you're unlikely to be able to sell those games. I'm never ever buying a system where I can't get used games for a good deal so count me out.

[Monsta Mack]

I rather put $250 more into friggin' arcade sticks. The price point is a complete joke on Sony's part.
But I'm sure Relentless Rolento and Frisky will be uploading us their pics once they get their hands on it. and we'll look forward to that on CAG. Just let us know when it hits $150 like it should be.

[Kfoster1979]

Well any though I had of getting a PSP go went out the door with that price point.

[FriskyTanuki]

:lol: I'm not buying it for $250. I paid $200 for my PSP and I'd be willing to pay that for the Go. I'm fine with my old 1000 for now.

[DQT]

I was starting to warm up to the PSP go aesthetically. At $250, there is no chance in hell of me getting one. My hope is that the Go will cause the other models to drop a few more bucks at retail.

[Monsta Mack]

:lol: I'm not buying it for $250. I paid $200 for my PSP and I'd be willing to pay that for the Go. I'm fine with my old 1000 for now.

Oh damn, thought I had you.

[RelentlessRolento]

LBP is looking great even at this stage of development:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuxKOl5xnWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ALecFM86_w

[iRent]

Hehehe my 2000 (from dell - $131) just arrived today. I already dropped it :\....On the carpet buts its okay. One good thing about the size the the Go! probably is that IF you do drop it it'll survive. Plus no moving parts. The only way they could have possible phased out the older models (even though they planned on selling the 3000 and Go! side by side) is if they lowered the damn price. $250 is up there. Not even including tax FFS.

[FriskyTanuki]

The PSP is a sturdy system. I've dropped mine a lot and it's still working like a champ.

[saiyajinsc]

I haven't read through all the pages so I'm not sure if this questions been asked. But what exactly are the main differences b/n psp and psp go? Will the new games coming out for the go still be playable on the regular psp? Is the psp go better performance wise or is just the same thing different shell, w/ internal memory, bluetooth etc...

[FriskyTanuki]

Everything the Go can play, the PSP can play, as well. You just have smaller load times, better battery life, and a more efficient system.

[opportunity777]

Everything the Go can play, the PSP can play, as well. You just have smaller load times, better battery life, and a more efficient system.

A nice and rosy depiction. :lol:

[J7.]

I really like almost everything about PSP Go, except the price. I wish it was $200-$229. Hopefully the margins on it allow for PS3 pricedrop soon after though in October or November. They should throw in Gran Turismo with PSP Go or at least some preloaded stuff on the flash memory to help sweet'n the deal.


Best news for this was the 80% price drop on dev kits which will open the market to devs alot more.
Huge point I almost forgot about. I think PSP resurgence in software may not be short lived.

Interesting, it looks aesthetically a little better (not much)- but even more worrisome in the comfortable to play department (that nub-reach really looks painful, without any DS1-3-like hand support for long term play). I don't want to constantly have to rest it on a wrenched finger for support like is shown in the picture.
I think I actually do that with my DS lite. Not trying to troll, just saying.

[FriskyTanuki]

A nice and rosy depiction. :lol:
I guess, but the first sentence says how worthless it is.

[opportunity777]

I guess, but the first sentence says how worthless it is.

Pretty much.

[FitzRoy]

Yeah, people don't realize how expensive it must be to make that thing. I don't see devices with this big screen, 16gb flash memory, bluetooth, wifi, powerful internals selling for less than $200 just yet. Maybe next year and it's probably the reason Sony has decided to continue selling the old model for now.

[Malik112099]

Yeah, people don't realize how expensive it must be to make that thing. I don't see devices with this big screen, 16gb flash memory, bluetooth, wifi, powerful internals selling for less than $200 just yet. Maybe next year and it's probably the reason Sony has decided to continue selling the old model for now.


I would quite honestly rather pay $50 more and get an ipod touch 2g. Does everything and more than a PSP (graphics almost look as good too, if not better in some cases) and quite honestly I have spent more game time on my iphone/ipod touch than my PSP.

[lucid734]

Looks GREAT...BUT....249.99???? I bought it when it first came out...I own 5 games. They would have to have a KILLER trade in deal at Gamestop for me to even contemplate that price.

[Malik112099]

Looks GREAT...BUT....249.99???? I bought it when it first came out...I own 5 games. They would have to have a KILLER trade in deal at Gamestop for me to even contemplate that price.


Plus you would have to re-buy all your games on PSN...if they are all even on there.

[mykevermin]

Plus you would have to re-buy all your games on PSN...if they are all even on there.

Don't forget that, if you import *at all*, you're fucked w/ the Go.

[lilboo]

I just really hope they have some kind of solution for people who have UMDs..
Then again, I speak like I have a large PSP collection :lol:

::takes his 3 games and goes elsewhere::

[Malik112099]

I just really hope they have some kind of solution for people who have UMDs..
Then again, I speak like I have a large PSP collection :lol:

::takes his 3 games and goes elsewhere::


this is the big reason why I think the go will fail...even with SUPER cheap used UMD games at our disposal it seams that the majority of us have a very small number of psp games (i currently have 4)...what would drive any of us to pay the full price for a DD game we know we wont play that much?

[lord_ebonstone]

Sony bankrupt by 2011, you heard it here first.

[SynGamer]

this is the big reason why I think the go will fail...even with SUPER cheap used UMD games at our disposal it seams that the majority of us have a very small number of psp games (i currently have 4)...what would drive any of us to pay the full price for a DD game we know we wont play that much?
The problem is there hasn't been a lot of AAA games released on the PSP. With more GOOD games coming out this year and next, i already see about 5 or so that i plan on getting. GT PSP, MGSPW, AC:B, FFXIIIA, and SOCOM FTB3, and that's just the short list, i know there are a few more that i'm forgetting.

[Mr. Anderson]

Damnit Sony, what were you thinking with this price? I paid 250 bucks for my PSP-1000 in 2005, there is no way your getting me this time.

[xcopy]

Glad Sony ditched the UMD totally. It was by far fragile and poorly designed. Thank god I played all my games off the memory stick.

LOL@UMD game collectors..wtf we're you thinking? These will not be worth shit in the future.

[Thomas96]

I'm wondering will it be easy (or rather Possible) to mod the flash drive and replace the 16 gb drive w/ sometime a lot more substantial? Also, will PSP go only have the 16gb model or will their be a cheaper 8gb model, because truly that's what needs to happen.

[Foo228]

Word is Sony is tinkering with the idea to implement a way to convert umds of older games onto the PSP Go free of charge.

That is very appealing to me. Source was a kotaku/giz article I'm tried to find but couldn't - sorry.

[The 7th Number]

Word is Sony is tinkering with the idea to implement a way to convert umds of older games onto the PSP Go free of charge.

That is very appealing to me. Source was a kotaku/giz article I'm tried to find but couldn't - sorry.

That would be nice, because i would rather buy a physical copy of the game and convert it, rather than download it digitally.

[RelentlessRolento]

Ok the new presser makes it alot more worth it to get a Go now:


* Easy Sliding Display Panel and Original Applications
When the panel is open, users will be able to enjoy various entertainment content with the familiar button control as PSP-3000, when closed, original applications for (exclusive to) PSPgo, such as a clock and calendar is displayed on the screen. Users can also enjoy video and music when the panel is closed.

* Game sleep function
PSPgo has unique features such as game sleep function which enables users to operate XMB (XrossMediaBar) while pausing gameplay temporarily.

* Bluetooth® function
Bluetooth function will also allow users to connect Bluetooth standard peripherals such as head-phones and head-set as well as PS3 wireless controller (DUALSHOCK®3 and SIXAXIS®)

* Peripheral line-up
One of the products within PSPgo's peripheral line-up is a new Cradle (PSP-N340) *7 that will become available in stores worldwide concurrently with the release of PSPgo. This new Cradle enables users to charge the PSPgo battery and also enjoy watching video and listening to music. Also included in the peripheral line-up are video-out port cables that enable users to enjoy games and videos on their TVs at home.http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/518


definitly like the bluetooth which was something I was expecting would be used. also the XMB sleep mode is great.

[ps2rich]

Ok the new presser makes it alot more worth it to get a Go now:

http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/518


definitly like the bluetooth which was something I was expecting would be used. also the XMB sleep mode is great.

wait a minute, so it mentions...

"PS3 wireless controller (DUALSHOCK®3 and SIXAXIS®) *6 to be used when watching video content on TVs"

how come no mention of using the controller to play games?

[RelentlessRolento]

that was a text typo... I'll fix it.

EDIT: Fixed. Read the presser for more details.

[J7.]

Here's even better news than PSP Go:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/990/990893p1.html

As of March 2009, cumulative worldwide sell-in units of the PSP system exceeded 51.6 million units.

Sony announced it is reducing the price of the Development Tool models DTP-T2000A and DTP-T2000, the hardware necessary for developing PSP software, to JPY150,000 in Japan, US $1,500 in North America and €1,200 in Europe/PAL territories effective immediately.

I think they said 80% lower? So it used to be $7500 in NA I guess. That is big difference. I know it's not the only factor (userbase is more important), but out of curiosity anyone know what DSi development kits cost?

SCE will also provide ProDG for PSP, a highly acclaimed powerful programming tool which helps to improve productivity of software development, as part of PSP Software Development Kit*1 without an additional charge. Also effective today, Testing Tool models DTP-H2500A and DTP-H2500, the tools utilized for quality assurance for PSP titles under development, will also become available at an affordable price of JPY100,000 in Japan, US $ 1,000 in North America and €800 in Europe/PAL territories.

streamlining the process from license agreement to publishing for small, download exclusive software titles.

I would quite honestly rather pay $50 more and get an ipod touch 2g. Does everything and more than a PSP (graphics almost look as good too, if not better in some cases) and quite honestly I have spent more game time on my iphone/ipod touch than my PSP.
I have to say that I find gaming on the Ipod Touch to be lackluster. Provide dpad, analog, and buttons and yes it could be better than PSP but it would also need some better publisher support. MGS Peace Walker vs MGS Touch... NFS Undercover vs GT PSP. Etc.

[h3llbring3r]

Here's even better news than PSP Go:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/990/990893p1.html

As of March 2009, cumulative worldwide sell-in units of the PSP system exceeded 51.6 million units.

Sony announced it is reducing the price of the Development Tool models DTP-T2000A and DTP-T2000, the hardware necessary for developing PSP software, to JPY150,000 in Japan, US $1,500 in North America and €1,200 in Europe/PAL territories effective immediately.

I think they said 80% lower? So it used to be $7500 in NA I guess. That is big difference. I know it's not the only factor (userbase is more important), but out of curiosity anyone know what DSi development kits cost?

SCE will also provide ProDG for PSP, a highly acclaimed powerful programming tool which helps to improve productivity of software development, as part of PSP Software Development Kit*1 without an additional charge. Also effective today, Testing Tool models DTP-H2500A and DTP-H2500, the tools utilized for quality assurance for PSP titles under development, will also become available at an affordable price of JPY100,000 in Japan, US $ 1,000 in North America and €800 in Europe/PAL territories.

streamlining the process from license agreement to publishing for small, download exclusive software titles.

I agree, much better news than the PSP go. Perhaps so cool indy games might turn up, I bet they get DD forced on them though.

Still, more developers having access to lower cost SDKs is good news.


I have to say that I find gaming on the Ipod Touch to be lackluster. Provide dpad, analog, and buttons and yes it could be better than PSP but it would also need some better publisher support. MGS Peace Walker vs MGS Touch... NFS Undercover vs GT PSP. Etc.


I am interested to see how some of the bigger names in iPhone/iTouch gaming turn out like the new Mass Effect game- which looks really good.

[keithp]

$250 is a big FAIL. Didn't they learn their lesson from the high-priced PS3 that no one bought?

[FriskyTanuki]

Indy games in general are usually download-only. Sony really needs to get the PSP PSN market going since I believe there are two original PSN games on the PSP (Beats and Syphon Filter MP), which is pretty much empty compared to what PS3 owners can download for their console.

[lilboo]

So I'm going to imagine it's not just going to be PSN shit on the PSP Go..but..maybe exclusive shit to the PSP Go aka PSPWare 8-)

[RelentlessRolento]

Did anyone even read the new presser? I think it further justifys the $249 that pretty much most CAGs here wont pay.

I'll get it.

[J7.]

Did anyone even read the new presser? I think it further justifys the $249 that pretty much most CAGs here wont pay.

I'll get it.
I read your post and just went back and read the entire presser now as well. Some of it seems software based, but the bluetooth and peripheral compatibility further help to justify the price. Although it is still $20 too much.Hopefully the Pearl white is coming here, it doesn't specify which countries yet for colors. Does Media Go update or replace Media Manager, meaning should I uninstall Media Manager first? What does Media Go do that MM does not?

[mykevermin]

There's no justification for a console that doesn't do anything that my 4 year old, can-be-bought-today for nearly $100 less console can do.

Sony seems to want to lose sometimes, as far as I'm concerned. Their staunch refusal to bring any of their consoles to a reasonable market pricepoint just fucking TEEMS with hubris.

This is akin to them announcing, at this year's E3, a 500GB PS3 that retails for $599.

[h3llbring3r]

There's no justification for a console that doesn't do anything that my 4 year old, can-be-bought-today for nearly $100 less console can do.

Sony seems to want to lose sometimes, as far as I'm concerned. Their staunch refusal to bring any of their consoles to a reasonable market pricepoint just fucking TEEMS with hubris.

This is akin to them announcing, at this year's E3, a 500GB PS3 that retails for $599.

. . .and no longer has a Blu-Ray drive, only DD HD movies.

[lilboo]

:rofl: WAIT, WHAT?! Did they REALLY announce that?!

[mykevermin]

no no no...

[lilboo]

:rofl: yet, wouldn't have been surprised

[h3llbring3r]

What's funny is the fact that it almost seemed plausible.

[cochesecochese]

So did SONY announce anything about further expanding the available DD library? It would be great if I could download whatever I wanted to a 2k or 3k and still play it.

[J7.]

There's no justification for a console that doesn't do anything that my 4 year old, can-be-bought-today for nearly $100 less console can do.

Sony seems to want to lose sometimes, as far as I'm concerned. Their staunch refusal to bring any of their consoles to a reasonable market pricepoint just fucking TEEMS with hubris.

This is akin to them announcing, at this year's E3, a 500GB PS3 that retails for $599.
It's not the what can it do that makes it more expensive. Yes, the price is a little too high, but it has features that do make it more costly (the design, the bluetooth, the new peripheral compatibility, the flash memory, possibly higher quality screen costs more even though its smaller). People need to stop bitching so much about it, if you don't like it fine, but people shouldn't go on and on about it. It's not a system to make everyone upgrade, it's more of a system for new owners.

Just saw a pic of the white one:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/whitepsp.jpg

[mykevermin]

Wait, what?

It's not like the console is a great idea. There's plenty to bitch about. The price, the same single nub, and the inability to transfer content you already own/possess to the new system (just for starters).

The product is the epitome of Sony's hubris and unwillingness to listen to what it is their customer base wants. They've given us a new product that does very little to nothing that's new (what advantage does bluetooth give us other than the ability to transfer to and from the PS3?), costs more, and does not address the 4+ years of limitations and complaints that people have levied at the system.

They've given the customer something new - but it's not what the customer wants.

[warpedcore]

It's not the what can it do that makes it more expensive. Yes, the price is a little too high, but it has features that do make it more costly (the design, the bluetooth, the new peripheral compatibility, the flash memory, possibly higher quality screen costs more even though its smaller). People need to stop bitching so much about it, if you don't like it fine, but people shouldn't go on and on about it. It's not a system to make everyone upgrade, it's more of a system for new owners.

Just saw a pic of the white one:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/06/whitepsp.jpg

Uh, there's nothing to conclude that the screen, bluetooth, or flash memory nessessarily make it a more quality product or more expensive components. $250 bucks could mean they just want higher profit margins. All we know it could be CHEAPER to produce or the same to produce as the 3000 units.

[Nathan_Sama]

Does this mean the persona 1 remake will be DLC only? :(

[J7.]

Wait, what?

It's not like the console is a great idea. There's plenty to bitch about. The price, the same single nub, and the inability to transfer content you already own/possess to the new system (just for starters).

The product is the epitome of Sony's hubris and unwillingness to listen to what it is their customer base wants. They've given us a new product that does very little to nothing that's new (what advantage does bluetooth give us other than the ability to transfer to and from the PS3?), costs more, and does not address the 4+ years of limitations and complaints that people have levied at the system.

They've given the customer something new - but it's not what the customer wants.
The console does what was needed most, help deal with piracy, attract new owners, and allow for the smaller game/app model more easily. It also helps push the PSP as publishers start more support again. I think the price also helps allow Sony to lower development kit costs so drastically and include those other development tools I mentioned above.

I acknowledge the price was too high, everyone has already multiple times. It needs to be a single nub. 51.6 million people and more going forward do not have 2 nubs. Putting a 2nd nub would alienate those without it. Seriously. Developers would also have to try to cater to those with and without a nub. Online would be broken. We haven't heard whether or not there are plans to be able to transfer content.

Bluetooth gives you wireless headset and control as well, and probably other bluetooth compatibility. Does not address all the complaints about UMD and piracy...? They've given me what I wanted and others as well. I've seen about the same people who really like the PSP Go as I have seen those that do not, and it seems those that do not almost all already own a PSP.

What did they give that I wanted? They gave a system where the controls can be slid away, they gave flash memory, they gave a system with less loading times (people bitched about that too), they gave most likely better battery life, they gave a smaller form factor, they gave a willingness to push smaller games and probably apps, they reached out to developers at the same time as a new hardware launch to get more software support, they lowered development costs very drastically to allow for more development and smaller games. It's great to see all that they have done to reinvigorate the PSP, not just with Go, but all that they have done on the development side simultaneously.

Uh, there's nothing to conclude that the screen, bluetooth, or flash memory nessessarily make it a more quality product or more expensive components. $250 bucks could mean they just want higher profit margins. All we know it could be CHEAPER to produce or the same to produce as the 3000 units.
We don't know. But it could cost more and I would bet it does, probably not enough to justify $250 though.

[mykevermin]

The console does what was needed most, help deal with piracy, attract new owners, and allow for the smaller game/app model more easily.

This could not be done w/ the 3000? The only thing it does, arguably, that the 3000 doesn't is "attract new owners." And I'm extraordinarily skeptical that such is a worthwhile claim, given the price point.

[J7.]

This could not be done w/ the 3000? The only thing it does, arguably, that the 3000 doesn't is "attract new owners." And I'm extraordinarily skeptical that such is a worthwhile claim, given the price point.
Going DD helps much more with piracy than what the current PSP model provided. Doesn't make much sense to go DD without having built in memory. It will attract the new owners who want to spend that much, those that do not know they can get the 3000. Just like DSi and DSL. It does allow for smaller game/app model more easily because people will now be going online with it much more often because its DD and they don't have to worry about memory card issues. Sure this last one is not as large a reason but it still helps. I pointed out a lot of other stuff in my post too. I don't want to argue with you because it will go nowhere since we each see it in different lights. But I am wondering what you would have designed it be in terms of design, features, price, etc? Doesn't mean I won't not argue over your own design though ;)

[Cthulhu8u]

Uh, there's nothing to conclude that the screen, bluetooth, or flash memory nessessarily make it a more quality product or more expensive components. $250 bucks could mean they just want higher profit margins. All we know it could be CHEAPER to produce or the same to produce as the 3000 units.

Listen to the guy with the Apple avatar, he knows these things from experience

:lol:

[lilboo]

Going DD helps much more with piracy than what the current PSP model provided. Doesn't make much sense to go DD without having built in memory. It will attract the new owners who want to spend that much, those that do not know they can get the 3000. Just like DSi and DSL. It does allow for smaller game/app model more easily because people will now be going online with it much more often because its DD and they don't have to worry about memory card issues. Sure this last one is not as large a reason but it still helps. I pointed out a lot of other stuff in my post too. I don't want to argue with you because it will go nowhere since we each see it in different lights. But I am wondering what you would have designed it be in terms of design, features, price, etc? Doesn't mean I won't not argue over your own design though ;)

I did trade my DS for a DSi because of the potential of DSiware.
However, DS ->DSi = +$40
PSP -> PSPGo = +$80?
No, thanks.

I do like the way it looks. I am pro digital distribution. But $80 more for pretty much the same thing is ridiculous.

I mean, I'm sure EB/GS will have some trade in promotion. The DS Lite got $70 towards a DSi..... then we'll see.

I rather this be $250 and it be a forced bundle. At least it'll feel like more bang for the buck.

[J7.]

Maybe they will bundle it with at least something after seeing reactions to the price. It should've been $229.

[Cthulhu8u]

Koller says that your UMD library is transferrable on a "goodwill" basis

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sony-working-on-good-will-program-to-give-digital-copies-of-yo/

Basically it's confirmed that some UMDs can be played on the Go.

[Malik112099]

Koller says that your UMD library is transferrable on a "goodwill" basis

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sony-working-on-good-will-program-to-give-digital-copies-of-yo/

Basically it's confirmed that some UMDs can be played on the Go.


Basically its confirmed they they dont really know what the fuck they are gonna do about it.

[FriskyTanuki]

Does Media Go update or replace Media Manager, meaning should I uninstall Media Manager first? What does Media Go do that MM does not?
Trying to go to the Media Manager page on the US SCEA site takes you to the Media Go site now, so it's replacing MM but it doesn't actually replace it when you download Media Go. I tried out both and Media Manager cannot connect to the PS Store anymore since it just says to download the Media Go app to get access to the store and Media Go supports SensMe, which is pretty much just the mood music thing that Folding@Home offers for its music playback. My major pet peeve is that it doesn't allow for RSS feed importing from the PSP for either app, so I'd have to find and copy/paste all of the RSS feed links into the app to get access to download those podcasts. It's pretty much the same thing and unless you don't care about getting to the PS Store, it's fine if you stick with Media Manager.

[Zoglog]

Playing Gran Turmiso on the psp go is awkward O.o....... the new analog stick is even more small and awkward than the previous, but I guess it's fine to just use the Dpad.

But yeah small it is indeed.

[whoknows]

Does it feel like it's in a better place?

I hate where the nub is now.

[opportunity777]

Does it feel like it's in a better place?

I hate where the nub is now.

He just said it's smaller and more awkward, which means its worse.

[Zoglog]

it's actually in a worse place in my opinion, though nobody's hand is quite the same I suppose.

They really should have just moved the analog stick to the right side, but of course then again that'd conflict w/ a whole bunch of games.

[dcswirl]

I think it will be PSP No for me.

[h3llbring3r]

Koller says that SOME of your UMD library is transferrable on a "goodwill" basis

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/sony-working-on-good-will-program-to-give-digital-copies-of-yo/


Details emerging about the UMD "good will" conversion program:


"a set number of titles for a set period of time,"

at least 300 but not the whole back catalog -- but despite calling it a short-term program he did say, should you receive a new UMD game later down the line, you should still be able to make the digital transfer.
My suspicious & inflammatory translation:
It may be your media- but we are going to offer you the limited option of converting a limited number your physical media titles to our DRM governed digital format for titles we choose, for a time that we will determine out of our "good will."

-Granted this only applies as long as you buy this device. You have the option to vote with your wallet.

*sigh* Digital Video Express anyone?

The latter part of the statement is at least encouraging as it implies and reinforces Sony's recent statement that the UMD will not be immediately abandoned.

:-?

[RelentlessRolento]

Just glad they are trying to do something about it. Problem is I think my collection won't fit on 16 gigs. maybe 32.

[h3llbring3r]

Twilight white vampire PSP go reveled. Apparently the sun doesn't kill them, they just sparkle:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/white-psp-go-h-o-2009-06-05_07-25-39-rm-eng.jpg

[opportunity777]

it's actually in a worse place in my opinion, though nobody's hand is quite the same I suppose.

They really should have just moved the analog stick to the right side, but of course then again that'd conflict w/ a whole bunch of games.

By looking at the photos, the position is totally awkward, so I'm not surprised by your conclusion.

[h3llbring3r]

OP updated with glitter white photos, UMD conversion program, and video of the Glitter white and piano black showing all ports.

[lilboo]

:rofl: White Glitter?!?!

[mykevermin]

:rofl: White Glitter?!?!

bitch.

[lilboo]

:rofl: I think I have to get that now. JUST so when people ask I can be like ..ohhh dats mah PSP Go GLITTER WHITE! :whee:

[FriskyTanuki]

Isn't that the same as the white PSP Go posted earlier?

I could see them offering the option of verifying a UMD game to get the download code that could be abused, but cut off for the last games available for that option before whatever the first PSN/UMD release is.

[manthing]

That PSP will go great with the denim jacket I bedazzled a unicorn on.

How is Sorny gonna attract 'tech enthusiasts' with a color that looks like a rejected My Little Pony?

[h3llbring3r]

Isn't that the same as the white PSP Go posted earlier?

I could see them offering the option of verifying a UMD game to get the download code that could be abused, but cut off for the last games available for that option before whatever the first PSN/UMD release is.

I'm betting on a mail-in option of some sort- à la red2blu, anything else is definitely subject to abuse.

Yes, it's the white. We just didn't know it was a fab-u-lous glittery white.

[corrosivefrost]

Next time someone hurls glitter and magazine racks, the GS employees might have to duck. :lol:

[h3llbring3r]

So, is the removal of the standard USB (or mini) port confirmed? It certainly looks like a proprietary wide connector.

[Blackout]

but despite calling it a short-term program he did say, should you receive a new UMD game later down the line, you should still be able to make the digital transfer. As for price, we're still looking to confirm something there, but they wouldn't be putting so much effort into the program if it wasn't at least for a discount, if not free.

It should be free. I already bought these games. I shouldn't be charged more money to play them. Second, what happens if I buy a PSP Go (or the next installment of the PSP) like 3 years from now? Will it still be in effect? "Later down the line" doesn't sound like it would be that far down the line.

[h3llbring3r]

It should be free. I already bought these games. I shouldn't be charged more money to play them. Second, what happens if I buy a PSP Go (or the next installment of the PSP) like 3 years from now? Will it still be in effect? "Later down the line" doesn't sound like it would be that far down the line.

I think "short term program" is the key phrase. I hope they are not trying to use this program's limited time frame as an incentive to get people to adopt to the newer PSP go more quickly. (Read: pressure, adopt now or lose your UMD media upgrade.)

However, he also goes on to say that that should you buy a UMD in the future and want the digital version that option would be available. It's definitely mixed messages so far.

This is all speculation, but maybe the conversion program will be short lived but future UMDs would come with a one-time only digital DL code (but still, there is potential for abuse with that option; Albeit limited.).

[FriskyTanuki]

I think by short-term program, maybe he's referring to what games will be included in the offer that you could redeem for a voucher. So there would be a point where new games don't count any longer and you have to make the choice of UMD versus PSN from that point on for new games, but anything before that qualifies for that program.

[ecmazza]

has battery life or whether it is user replaceable been announced? i asked the rep i talked to at the E3 booth, but said he didn't know to both questions and was generally unhelpful

[Malik112099]

Have they announced the Glitter White PS3 Slim to go with this?

[h3llbring3r]

I think by short-term program, maybe he's referring to what games will be included in the offer that you could redeem for a voucher. So there would be a point where new games don't count any longer and you have to make the choice of UMD versus PSN from that point on for new games, but anything before that qualifies for that program.

That would certainly be the less appealing option for me. Which is why that is what Sony will likely do. :-|

[Nibi]

I've heard rumors of an instore kiosk where you would deposit your UMDs, and get a digital version put on your PSP.

[Cthulhu8u]

Are you guys just looking to bash the Go like a bunch of retarded fanboys for every conceivable reason? Bashing the price is one thing, but the fact that it comes in colour? Glitter PSPs are old news, they had much more girly colours than white for the 2000 in Japan. Things sold like hotcakes and looked pretty nice to boot since it's not just a shifty paintjob. Women tend to be considered a marketable group (pink DS, anyone?).

Apparently they're even allowed to vote now too.

[RelentlessRolento]

I've heard rumors of an instore kiosk where you would deposit your UMDs, and get a digital version put on your PSP.


That would make the most sense... though I'd wonder where you heard this.

[RelentlessRolento]

really dumb question, but whats that port on the lower right bottom? It's not for the Mem stick micro since that's on the side, so um.. yeah?

[PuppetYuber]

Did they fix the D-pad so you can finally play fighting games on PSP? lol

[Cao Cao]

From John Koller: PSP Go's battery life is five-to-six hours, same as the PSP-3000.

Chances are that, just like with the 1000->2000 transition, they reduced power consumption, but any major benefits are negated due to a significantly smaller battery.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/video-white-psp-go-hands-on/

Koller told us battery life would be about five to six hours, on par with the 3000 model, and if that doesn't jibe with your needs, he said the company's looking into a battery boost peripheral similar to the add-ons we saw when the iPod first launched. The portable itself has been in the works "for several years," but despite the overlap, says it was designed independently of the MyLo -- we're pretty skeptical, but hey, stranger things have happened. Also, we think it goes without saying, but just to make absolute sure, we confirmed with him that it uses the same SDK as the regular PSP and hence, no exclusive Go titles.

[RelentlessRolento]

Did they fix the D-pad so you can finally play fighting games on PSP? lol


it's been fixed ever since the 2000 models...? where've you been?

[opportunity777]

From John Koller: PSP Go's battery life is five-to-six hours, same as the PSP-3000.

Chances are that, just like with the 1000->2000 transition, they reduced power consumption, but any major benefits are negated due to a significantly smaller battery.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/video-white-psp-go-hands-on/

I saw that coming.

it's been fixed ever since the 2000 models...? where've you been?

Maybe, he was expecting something different? The PS style D-pad is pretty crappy, even though, it's the best of the current consoles. Besides for SF and Darkstalkers, I don't think any of the other fighting games need a super precise D-pad.

[iamthekiller]

Pre-orders are up on Amazon for those that don't think they're too cool for every god damn thing.

[iRent]

Retarded move with forcing new accessories on PSP Go! owners. How annoying.

[Thomas96]

I want one... because my PSP screen look like shit. SO its about time for a replacement, I'll gladly trade in my old psp for a go. Honestly, it was a bitch trying to carry around the PSP and those flimsy ass UMDs. People don't talk much about it, but those UMDs were horrible quality. Once the case break.. that's it... you have to search high and low to find a replacement. (Because Sony never wanted to admit how cheap and flimsy those UMD games are).

[Nibi]

That would make the most sense... though I'd wonder where you heard this.

It was mentioned along with the original PSP Go rumor.

http://www.siliconera.com/2009/04/28/rumor-umd-less-psp-coming-this-fall/

[Malik112099]

I have NO incentive to buy this thing. Sony has fiven me NO reason other than blu-ray to sell/trade my 2000 and get this thing for $250. The battery life is the same. The screen is smaller. There are no special PSP Go only games since the SDK is the same as the regular PSP. The PSN Store wont have all the UMD games ever made on it. The regular PSP has access to all the same games as the PSP Go. They should have somehow thrown in a UMD drive and just called it the PSP-4000.

[Chitown021]

I am debating on upgrading form my 2000 to the GO. How they handle this "GOOD WILL" program will be the deciding factor for me.

I love the idea of downloading the games and having everything all-in-one. No more having to switch flimsy UMDs and I would hope reduced load times.

The things I hate are:
1) The price tag. If Sony is going to charge $250 it should come bundled with a couple of free game downloads, additional memory stick, or something.
2) Probably the biggest disappointment is the lack of improvment in battery life. The excuse was always how much of a power whore the UMD drive was with all of the loading and moving parts. Even with a smaller battey it seems to me there should be at least a 50% increase in battery life.

[Rodster]

No thanks, i'll be sticking with my PSP 1001. In fact I recently bought another Phat as a backup. It's tough to go back to OFW once you've tried CFW. Plus I think the PSP Go looks like sh*t, although i'll reserve further judgment until I see one in person.

All Sony wants to do is get the PSP 1001, and 2000 Slim with CFW out of circulation. I can't blame them for trying. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

mkay the slot on the bottom makes sense now... basically it's an ipod style USB and RGB/Component connection now as well as maybe the AC adaptor:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/psp.go.accessories.060409-580px.jpg


http://playstation.joystiq.com/

Only thing I don't like about this is that it's going to be a pain if I lose the USB cable... not as bad as loosing a USB mini cable since you can use any type of cable.

[J7.]

So Sony is following Apple/MS's lead with proprietary accessories, can't say I didn't see that one coming.

[RelentlessRolento]

I just hope there's a crappy cheaper 3rd party version of the component and USB coming out at launch.

[lilboo]

So, that pic.. does it actually come with all that stuff? I'm sure it doesn't come with any of it. :roll: :(

[RelentlessRolento]

From what I remember it comes with the USB cord and the AC charger. I don't know if the dock charger is part of the AC charger but who knows.

[J7.]

IGN's impressions:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/991/991051p1.html

Chris:
"The fact that the buttons are a little lower on the system than the current one means that you don't have to form as much of a claw to use the shoulder buttons. There's more distance from the bulk of your hand and your index fingers with the go, which should make it more comfortable in the long run. I hope that the fact that the buttons are flush up against the back of the screen portion doesn't mean that they'll get cramped that way, but so far so good. The shoulder buttons also feel more responsive than the current plasticy-feeling buttons."

"I like the size quite a bit. I never carry my PSP around unless I know that I'm going to use it simply because of its size, but that may change once I get a PSP go. The analog stick also felt a little more solid and smooth than the current one, but I'll hold my final judgment on that until I get more time with it."

"My two issues are with price and what you'll do with your current library of UMDs." (This was before the Good-will announcement - either way).

Scott:
"When I first saw the leaked images of the PSP go, I couldn't help but feel that the design was a step backwards for Sony."

"What's more, the physical dimensions of the device are hard to gauge from the press photos."

"Instead, when you get a glimpse at and feel of the PSP go as one of the product's target audience -- semi-adult and male -- the device is strikingly compact."

"Despite its incredibly compact design, however, the PSP go isn't too small for those same enlarged, semi-adult male hands. My fingers wrapped comfortably around the edges of the device and I didn't have to cramp or arch my fingers to get a good feel on the shoulder buttons."

"Outside of my concerns about the physical size of the device, another big worry of mine was the positioning of the thumbstick. Again, misled by the in-hand promotional pictures, the thumbstick appeared to be bit of a reach for a player's thumb, but in reality its within a comfortable range." Funny, I didn't think it was but I did think the Go was small from the get go so...

"In a perfect world, I would have liked to have seen some serious processing boosts, but I expect that the flash-based games will take a sharp performance boost anyways."

Greg:
"I'm all over the place on the PSP go. I think $250 is too much to charge for a platform that's been out for four years now, but I definitely think it looks sexy. I think the slide screen might make accessing the shoulder buttons hard, but I dig the compact size. I got to play the PSP go yesterday, but it was in a metal holder and anchored to a bar so the weight and feel of the unit in my hands was off. I felt like the nub was in a goofy place, but Roper played it without the holder and said he didn't have the same problem so I think that concern is mainly due to the holder."

Gamepros impressions:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/previews/210691/psp-go-e3-2009-impressions/

Noteworthy Pros:
"the PSP Go has one of the nicest handheld screens on the market, if not quite up the iPhone 3G's."

"Despite its smaller size, the PSP Go is actually more comfortable to use than the older PSPs. The L and R shoulder buttons are oversized and squishy, given you a great grip on the device. The analog stick is logically placed (though the placement looks weird in photos, it works well), and the new directional pad is shallower and clickier but works well."

They also mention the things Sony is doing besides the hardware itself to help the PSP Go and PSP overall, which was a point I was trying to make.

Noteworthy Cons:
They see no 2nd analog as one, I still disagree 110%. They suggest lock on controls for the 51+ million PSP owners without 2nd analog. What about online games?

No touch screen.

Conclusions:
"Overall, the PSP Go will re-energize the PSP ecosystem and get more developers and publishers interested in the device." Big point I agree with.

"It's not a perfect showing, though. By eschewing a second analog stick or touchscreen, Sony is stubbornly sticking to the PSP's original vision - an oversight that may cost them in the years to come."

" With a touchscreen and an analog stick, the PSP Go could have cruised along steadily for years to come and rendered a PSP2 unnecessary altogether." Gotta disagree with this a lot, Apple will keep upgrading their lineup.

[Tux.Bobble]

I have a question. Is it confirmed that the new PSP Go will also be wireless-b, and not g? There are only a few things keeping me from becoming a new PSP guy, but that is one of them. (not to mention the not-so-stellar battery life, and the hefty price tag!)

I like the redesign, because the old PSPs just didn't fit my hands right. The analog nub was too far down and cramped my thumb. But if this is going to lack physical games and UMD media, I need a faster wireless connection. I don't want my whole home network to slow down to b-speeds when I've got a PSP connected--not to mention last I checked it didn't support WPA2 security. (not sure about WPA, or if this has been updated) I share too many files on my home network to be okay with an 80% speed reduction in my network.

[Malik112099]

I keep wanting to like this thing but cant bring myself to.

[cheezisgoooood]

I actually like this news. When I had a PSP, before it got stolen, three of my UMDs became unplayable because the cases that hold the discs would collapse so the PSP could not read them. Download only was a good decision.

[Malik112099]

I actually like this news. When I had a PSP, before it got stolen, three of my UMDs became unplayable because the cases that hold the discs would collapse so the PSP could not read them. Download only was a good decision.


replacement cases are pretty cheap

http://www.multimediarecovery.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=B83B6E70BDA84085AE6F56F4121AD933&nm=Test&type=EcomBB&mod=E%2DCommerce%3A%3AProduct+Catalog&mid=C4BAF2D29AF649DF978318202CBEDD02&tier=2&cat=Products&ntier1=Products

http://store.videogamecentral.com/psp-umd-replacement-repair-case-shell.html

[RelentlessRolento]

UMD cases suck because even no matter how well you took care of them they would scratch or get beat up. I had one UMD I put in my PSP immediately after buying new with no scratches, and as soon as I pulled it out a few days later it was all scratched up...? and my PSP works just fine.

[keithp]

I think if they had put a touchscreen and 2nd analog stick on it they would've shut everyone up, even if they had charged a little more for it. Guess that'll be the PSP Go2, though.

[J7.]

UMD cases suck because even no matter how well you took care of them they would scratch or get beat up. I had one UMD I put in my PSP immediately after buying new with no scratches, and as soon as I pulled it out a few days later it was all scratched up...? and my PSP works just fine.
That's strange because none of my umds have any scratches at all nor any signs of wear and tear. I do keep them in plastic protective cases though. I do agree however the the plastic casings are fragile.

[Cthulhu8u]

I have a question. Is it confirmed that the new PSP Go will also be wireless-b, and not g? There are only a few things keeping me from becoming a new PSP guy, but that is one of them. (not to mention the not-so-stellar battery life, and the hefty price tag!)

I like the redesign, because the old PSPs just didn't fit my hands right. The analog nub was too far down and cramped my thumb. But if this is going to lack physical games and UMD media, I need a faster wireless connection. I don't want my whole home network to slow down to b-speeds when I've got a PSP connected--not to mention last I checked it didn't support WPA2 security. (not sure about WPA, or if this has been updated) I share too many files on my home network to be okay with an 80% speed reduction in my network.

Yep, it's wi-fi b still, I suppose to save on battery life? Personally I think wi-fi b is quick enough for the PSP, downloading vids and demos from the PSN seems pretty quick to me. If games start to become 1gig though, I'm not so sure then.
I think if you have a newer wireless router with MIMO technology, it should circumvent the whole wireless network from slowing down to b speeds. The PSP has supported WPA for a while, it has settings for WPA-PSK (TKIP) and WPA-PSK (AES).

[Tux.Bobble]

Thanks for the post Cthulu. I had been the one to set my roommate's PSP up (college) and that was ~2 years ago. I couldn't remember if it didn't support WPA2, or didn't support WPA at all. But as long as it supports WPA I'll be fine with that. (Just got another wifi device that only uses WPA, not WPA2, so I backed my network down anyway. By the way Eye-Fi is an awesome device for the less-than-tech-savvy, like my mother and father!)

On another note...well...I'm still not crazy about 802.11b. G has been out since before the PSP was launched originally...there's really no excuse for not having it here. I'm ok with the lack of touch screen. The second analog would be wonderful, but I understand why they didn't add it... I just don't understand why an 11Mbps connection as opposed to a 54Mbps connection. And honestly, g isn't really more expensive than b anymore, so skimping doesn't make all that much sense...

Oh well, my woes are certainly to fall on deaf ears, since it's not a common complaint--it'll get overlooked with all the touch screen and nub problems lol... Again thanks for the response Cthulu.

[Tux.Bobble]

Oh and to elaborate on one more thing...my only debate right now is whether to wait for the PSP2 or go with the Go. I mean, yes the PSP (like the PS2, PS3) are intended to have "10 year life cycles"...but I mean, look at the PS2. It's still "going strong" in a sense...but the PS3 was launched in 2006, only 6 years after the PS2.

Given that the PSP was released in 2005, I'm wondering how long before the PSP2 will show up. And yet at the same time I like the Go much better than the original PSP design, so I would like to support it and show Sony that it's what I want.


Argh, so torn. If only it weren't $250, this decision would be MUCH easier...

[Monsta Mack]

I can't believe the battery life is going to be the same if games aren't on UMD anymore? If that's true that's a real bad move.

I wish wish Nintendo would get on the stick and put the entire NES libary on Wiiware so I could sell (yes I would sell) my entire NES collection to play them on the Wii1, Wii2 etc.

[lilboo]

I have a question about this Media Go. :wall:
Trying to install it. I get "Unable to to write to the temp directory in C:\...Temp. Check that you have access to this directory"

So I go there.
And I have access.
????

WTF?

[riddler]

sorry if its been asked before, but have they already discontinued the psp-2000? I noticed that it was still up at some retailers (i.e. dell.com). I read that the psp-2000 doesn't display those weird interlacing lines, but that the psp-3000 has better colors. I would love to get a psp go, but my hands are sorta huge, i don't like the placement of the analog, too expensive, and the screen is kinda small for me...Anyway so the psp-3000 is gonna stay on the shelves (will it get a price drop then????), so i was assuming they are discontinuing the 2000? If by any chance someone could clue me in to the fact that the 3000 is definitely better than the 2000 that would be cool too...wouldn't mind getting that dissidia bundle...

[FriskyTanuki]

lilboo: Mine installed fine, so maybe redownloading the install file could fix that issue.

riddler: I'm guessing that the 2000 was discontinued when the 3000 was released last year, so you may just be seeing whatever stock they have left. I doubt the 3000 gets dropped in price since they probably want to keep it as the cheaper option for those that don't want to pay the money for the Go. I only have a 1000, so you'll have to wait for somebody else to comment on whether the 2000 or 3000 is better.

[Sarang01]

Rolento I am disgusted with you. You're an importer like myself, don't think we won't get fucked somehow with this, especially if the game drop thing is what happens instead of an online deal.

Seriously I'm skeptical of seeing "DJ Max Portable" and both "Pump It Up" games hitting the download code. There's also the matter of seeing "Princess Crown" and "Devil Summoner" as well as "Astonishia Story R" for myself.
All this being said I'd almost jump at putting "Gradius Portable" on a memory stick since it's a clusterfuck in Konami's BAD programming. I like the collection but the load time is awful to what it should be and it sucks up the battery like crack for some reason.
I forgot to mention planning on picking up "Salamander Portable", "Parodius Portable" and "Twinbee Portable".
Also just looking at the PSP Go I feel like my hands would be cramped. The price is a joke as well. I'd just as soon rip some games off the UMD unofficially to my current PSP-1000. At least I don't have to worry about Sony fucking me over in the good will thing. It's not like it doesn't support 16 gb. memory stick already.
On a side note I wish Sony could get their shit together on memory stick duo pricing being better and bigger. Those SD HC card costs are great and it's a fraction of the size of the duo for crying out loud!

[RelentlessRolento]

Rolento I am disgusted with you. You're an importer like myself, don't think we won't get fucked somehow with this, especially if the game drop thing is what happens instead of an online deal.



I don't import that much at all to be honest, and I support indie dev more than I do importing so that may be my reason behind backing this.

I do agree with you though, this does suck balls for importing.

[lilboo]

lilboo: Mine installed fine, so maybe redownloading the install file could fix that issue.


Tried. Did not work.
Where can I get Media Manager 3.0? This sucks.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://www.coderetard.com/2009/01/12/psp-media-manager-30-free-download/

There's a direct download link there that should work since they divert all attempts on the official site to media go.

[Tux.Bobble]

sorry if its been asked before, but have they already discontinued the psp-2000? I noticed that it was still up at some retailers (i.e. dell.com). I read that the psp-2000 doesn't display those weird interlacing lines, but that the psp-3000 has better colors. I would love to get a psp go, but my hands are sorta huge, i don't like the placement of the analog, too expensive, and the screen is kinda small for me...Anyway so the psp-3000 is gonna stay on the shelves (will it get a price drop then????), so i was assuming they are discontinuing the 2000? If by any chance someone could clue me in to the fact that the 3000 is definitely better than the 2000 that would be cool too...wouldn't mind getting that dissidia bundle...

It's funny because I have the same problem of hands being too big...but I actually think the analog placement will make it BETTER for larger hands like mine, despite the actual reduction in size. Sounds weird I know, but I'm just speculating--haven't had any hands-on experience at this point...

[62t]

If you are a import fan there is nothing to worry about. Just pick up some Japanese PSN points and you could grab whatever you want on the Japanese store.

[Eldios]

How do you access the JPN PSP store from the PSP? I know how to do it from the PS3.

[FriskyTanuki]

Delete whatever PSN account you currently have attached and enter the details for the Japanese PSN account you already have to get access to the Japanese PS Store. It's probably easier to just download it on the PS3 and transfer it over, though you'll still need to be logged in with the Japanese account to play whatever you've downloaded.

[Eldios]

Delete whatever PSN account you currently have attached and enter the details for the Japanese PSN account you already have to get access to the Japanese PS Store. It's probably easier to just download it on the PS3 and transfer it over, though you'll still need to be logged in with the Japanese account to play whatever you've downloaded.

Makes sense. However, are you saying if I have a JPN PSN game and a USA PSN game on my PSP I will only be able to play one or the other depending on which account I am logged into? Thanks.

[FriskyTanuki]

Yeah, you have to switch accounts depending on what you want to play.

[opportunity777]

Makes sense. However, are you saying if I have a JPN PSN game and a USA PSN game on my PSP I will only be able to play one or the other depending on which account I am logged into? Thanks.

Just wait for the first hacks, and the problem will be solved for you. :-P

[Eldios]

Yea I probably will. I have CFW on my 2000 and really enjoy it for ripping my UMD ISOs and playing them off of the memory card. Will be curious to see how Sony plans to address current PSP owners who want to upgrade.

[opportunity777]

Yea I probably will. I have CFW on my 2000 and really enjoy it for ripping my UMD ISOs and playing them off of the memory card. Will be curious to see how Sony plans to address current PSP owners who want to upgrade.

Talk big to placate the masses and load every one up with DRM-bloated downloads.

[TanushreeRanjan]

PSP Go - details. "Good Will" limited UMD program coming. + new Glitter White
http://www.$$$$$$$.info/imgs/signature_deepthakur.jpg:)

[Nibi]

White PSP Go now up for preorder on amazon (October 1st). (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CZ918S/ref=twister_dp_update?ie=UTF8&childASIN=B002CZ756I)

Pretty sexy looking, I may go for this one.

[Malik112099]

Just wait for the first hacks, and the problem will be solved for you. :-P

Considering the PSP-3000 is a bitch to hack I dont think the PSP Go will be any easier.

[opportunity777]

Considering the PSP-3000 is a bitch to hack I dont think the PSP Go will be any easier.

The first ones always face a more difficult road.

[Malik112099]

The first ones always face a more difficult road.


The PSP Go's guts are the same as the PSP-3000's. Without a removable battery and UMDs it is going to be even harder to hack the PSP Go.

[opportunity777]

The PSP Go's guts are the same as the PSP-3000's. Without a removable battery and UMDs it is going to be even harder to hack the PSP Go.

Plenty of devices without a UMD drive and removable battery are broken.

Harder or not, it will happen. I'm amazed by human ingenuity.

[h3llbring3r]

White PSP Go now up for preorder on amazon (October 1st). (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CZ918S/ref=twister_dp_update?ie=UTF8&childASIN=B002CZ756I)

Pretty sexy looking, I may go for this one.

You do know it's glitterriffic with crystal buttons and not just white right? I guess it's sexy, if your into wearing négligée and heels.


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/white-psp-go-h-o-2009-06-05_07-25-39-rm-eng.jpg

[62t]

Plenty of devices without a UMD drive and removable battery are broken.

Harder or not, it will happen. I'm amazed by human ingenuity.

Just like the PS3 right? More than 2 years and they still havent been able to play backup games

[blitz6speed]

Just like the PS3 right? More than 2 years and they still havent been able to play backup games

The incentive to hack the PS3 is not there. You have to remember that the real smart people, the ones who know how to actually code and find exploits, are linux users. They had Linux installable on the PS3 on day 1 legally from sony. So automagically, 99.9% of the actual people who CAN hack the ps3 do not bother with it. Ontop of that, the 0.1% left that can are very happy playing pirated games on the 360.

Really, the ps3 is in a weird position, and i dont see it getting hacked anytime soon. Most people who want it cracked have 0 ability to do so and just whine about it. Thats 99.9% of piraters out there.

[Malik112099]

Seriously. The psp no wont be hacked anytime soon.

[opportunity777]

Just like the PS3 right? More than 2 years and they still havent been able to play backup games

Backup PS2 games work on the 20 and 60 GB PS3s.

One day, I think it will be done. I remember people pirating GameCube games way before it was broken open.

The Saturn was never completely broken, but hard mods allowed people to play backups.

Seriously. The psp no wont be hacked anytime soon.

Until it comes out, we won't know how hard it is to break.

[FriskyTanuki]

The EU PS Blog has a nice Q&A post answering questions about the Go:

Hi everyone. My name’s Adam and I am the European Product Manager for PSPgo (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/tag/pspgo/). Thanks to all who answered the call (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2009/06/09/pspgo-post-your-questions-here-answers-coming-on-friday)earlier this week and submitted questions, we have literally had hundreds! It is great to see that there is so much interest in PSPgo. I will try to answer as many as I can but any questions not answered in this post will be answered in forthcoming updates. I will provide you with as much detail as I can.


xeeki: Are there any technological improvements over the PSP-3000? Like, the screen, or hardware-wise…

Xeeki has asked about detail on the technological improvements of PSPgo over other models. The 2 biggest differences are the removal of the UMD drive and the new design. PSPgo replaces the UMD drive with 16GB of flash memory and the stylish slide open design has made the PSPgo smaller and lighter than ever making it truly pocket-size.



We have also added 3 new features:


Game sleep function: You will be able to operate the XMB™ (XrossMediaBar) while suspending the gameplay temporarily.
Bluetooth function: This is going to let you use your favourite wireless head phones to listen to music, play games and watch videos….
Clock and calendar application: We have included a clock and calendar application which can be viewed both when the sliding panel is open and closed.

Nemhome: Will the PSPgo be delivered with a USB cable?

I am happy to say that the answer is yes. PSPgo will come bundled with everything you need for you to start enjoying all it has to offer. Included in the box along with the PSPgo will be a USB cable, AC adaptor and Media Go software.


PSPgo comes bundled with Media Go, which is an easy to use PC application that makes it simple for you to browse PlayStation Store, as well as organise and store all your favourite downloaded games, demos, music, movies and photos.


We know that being able to effectively store, organise and access your content is key so we have created a video to help explain how you can make the most of PSPgo. Check it out.




disc: What is the battery life like?

We have adopted an embedded battery to realise a smaller and lighter PSP system. The battery life is equivalent with the current models meaning approximately 3 to 6 hours for gameplays and approximately 3 to 5 hours for playing back videos. Hope that answers your question disc.


KSPRAYDAD has been asking about peripherals so here is an update:

The peripherals on offer at launch for PSPgo are USB cable, AC adaptor, Video-out cables (AV cable and component AV cable) and a Cradle. We are currently considering introducing other peripherals for PSPgo but can not provide details at this point.


Another big question was if the current peripherals can be used with PSPgo. We have reduced the size of the USB connector and introduced multi-function features which has allowed us to obtain a smaller and lighter PSP. As such the peripherals for the current PSP models do not currently work on PSPgo however we are considering introducing a special attachment that can connect current peripherals to PSPgo.



Can I download games on to a memory stick?

PSPgo is disc free with a 16GB of built-in memory for storing all your essential games, videos, photos and music. However if you do fill this up there are a couple of options to store and manage your games, music, videos and photos. You will be able to back up to a PC via Media Go or to the M2 Memory Stick to store more content for PSPgo.



Torence: Why have you changed the format of the removable memory?

Torence has asked the above question and it is a good one. PSPgo uses M2 memory sticks which are smaller and take up less room on the device. This meant that we saved space and could make the PSPgo pocket-sized. However, you will be able to transfer the data from your Memory Stick Duo to your PC via Media Go and then transfer it to the PSPgo or M2.



theTMO / pavianexodus: Will it be possible to transfer my UMD games to the new PSPgo?

We know that there are many of you excited about PSPgo but are hesitant at leaving your UMD games collection behind. We recognize this and as such we are planning a goodwill programme and will unveil more details soon.


We also know that there are many already released UMD games that you may not own but want to play in the future on your PSPgo. To make this happen we are considering every possibility to bring downloadable versions for the majority of past titles available only in UMD to the PlayStation Store along with all new releases. We will announce further details on this.



How much will PSPgo cost?

Many of you have asked about the price of PSPgo throughout Europe and the PAL territories and we announced at E3 that PSPgo will retail in Europe at 249 Euros. Many of you have asked more specifically what price this will mean in your local currency.



Unfortunately at this stage we are unable to define prices in countries where the Euro is not present at this time but I can assure you that as soon as these prices have been agreed upon I will let you know.


Will the price differ between the UMD version and the downloadable version?

I know this is something that is a concern for you. Unfortunately, I don’t have the answer for you on this at the moment. I can however assure you that I will share this information with you as soon as I get it.


I hope I have managed to answer some of the most burning questions! Feedback is always welcome and we do appreciate all the comments and questions. I will be posting regularly to update you on the latest information on PSPgo.


Thanks!
Adam


Not much that's new, but it's nice to see that they'll bundle the new USB cable with the PSP and may have an adapter to allow the peripherals that are already out to work with the Go.

[opportunity777]

The EU PS Blog has a nice Q&A post answering questions about the Go:

Not much that's new, but it's nice to see that they'll bundle the new USB cable with the PSP and may have an adapter to allow the peripherals that are already out to work with the Go.

If they don't release an adapter, then it would be a total joke.

[h3llbring3r]

If they don't release an adapter, then it would be a total joke.

Might as well, as soon as someone figured out the pin-outs there would likely be a Chinese made one hit the market anyway.

Still, people will certainly buy the new peripherals/cables regardless.

[Nibi]

You do know it's glitterriffic with crystal buttons and not just white right? I guess it's sexy, if your into wearing négligée and heels.


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/white-psp-go-h-o-2009-06-05_07-25-39-rm-eng.jpg

you're talking to a guy with a rose pink DS.

[fuss]

theTMO / pavianexodus: Will it be possible to transfer my UMD games to the new PSPgo?

We know that there are many of you excited about PSPgo but are hesitant at leaving your UMD games collection behind. We recognize this and as such we are planning a goodwill programme and will unveil more details soon.

Ya, but what about people who have both systems and want to play the games they have NOW on both systems? Looks like we will be SOL and have to pick one system to play it on and say "oh well" for the other.

This is the one thing that pisses me off over anything else about this GO.

[RelentlessRolento]

there's news of an app store releasing down the line, which I had predictions about a while ago... would propel the PSP to new heights since the titles will be nothing bigger than 100mb and under $6.

[Malik112099]

Until it comes out, we won't know how hard it is to break.


What aren't you understanding? The PSP Go is a PSP-3000 with LESS access for hacking (read: no umd drive and no removable battery). We already know how hard it will be to break. Harder than the PSP Go. The only outside access to the Go will be removable storage and a USB cable which the 3000 already has.

[shlby]

Anyone know if the psp web browser will be improved in the go? The browser right now is pretty much crap.

[FriskyTanuki]

I imagine that it'll run out of memory less often with more onboard memory now.

[opportunity777]

What aren't you understanding? The PSP Go is a PSP-3000 with LESS access for hacking (read: no umd drive and no removable battery). We already know how hard it will be to break. Harder than the PSP Go. The only outside access to the Go will be removable storage and a USB cable which the 3000 already has.

What aren't you understanding? Without a battery hack, the 3000 is already broken.

If something is redesigned, then other flaws are always revealed and need to be plugged up. Maybe, nobody will find the flaws, but right now, its initial hack-ability is pure speculation.

[Cthulhu8u]

The EU PS Blog has a nice Q&A post answering questions about the Go:



Game sleep function: You will be able to operate the XMB™ (XrossMediaBar) while suspending the gameplay temporarily.


Hmmm, even my PSPhat already does this. Maybe they're adding actual functionality within the suspend mode, like listening to music or something?

you're talking to a guy with a rose pink DS.

Zing! :rofl:

[FriskyTanuki]

I don't see an option for in-game XMB on my 1000.

[Cthulhu8u]

I don't see an option for in-game XMB on my 1000.

Unless I'm understanding this wrong, isn't the XMB access simply hitting the Home button when in a game? Come to think of it maybe I'm imagining things and it doesn't work in games but only during other functionalities such as playing a video...

D'oh! Once I get home I'll have to check!

[FriskyTanuki]

Pushing the home button while playing a game just asks if you want to quit back to the XMB. You can pull up the XMB during other things like music and video though.

[Malik112099]

One would think if it is a software based feature it would be available to all other PSPs unless the firmware for the PSP Go will be different.

[Nibi]

A whole bunch of new pics. Some new angles, showing off the power adapter, and some nice 3000/go comparison shots. Looking really good.

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20090626_296691.html?ref=rss

Poor google translation reveals:
"As a function of the software, XMB (KUROSUMEDIABA) games, videos, music and photos and the ability to directly access the content, which can be closed when the clock display, gameplay The state temporarily suspended during, XMB unique features on the various actions could be "functional GEMUSURIPU" the engine. In addition, Bluetooth 2.0 support to the results, "PSPgo and PlayStation 3" controller (DUALSHOCK3/SIXAXIS) to connect to, it is possible to use the controller."

More on the "GEMUSURIPU function". Seems to be a new functionality coming to all PSPs allowing you to interrrupt a game to view media, use browser or listen to music. Allowing you to resume game play at any time.

"PSPgo stopped the game and during gameplay does, XMB (KUROSUMEDIABA) return, you can use other functions. And stopped the play of the game, for example, see the official website or call the browser game, a good example. Software that is later aborted "Resume Game" to choose to play. Unlike the traditional functions of sleep, "GEMUSURIPU" deeds, not consume battery power if OFF. This feature has not been flushed to main memory can deliver PSP-1000/2000/3000."

[blackjaw]

So the PSPgo will not use battery in sleep mode? Or am I reading that engrish incorrectly?

[crunchb3rry]

The PSP Go is going to be murder on the hands. Carpal tunnel FTW!

[Foo228]

Don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but after looking at those pics the psp border on the bottom of the screen is terrible! (especially on the white)

[Nibi]

So the PSPgo will not use battery in sleep mode? Or am I reading that engrish incorrectly?

As incomprehensible as the translation was, this is also how I interpreted it.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm guessing the onboard storage allows them to save what you're doing to the flash drive and not just be a glorified pause option that turns off the screen.

[The 7th Number]

Wow you can use a PS3 controller to play PSP games.....if i read that right, that would be awesome.

[RelentlessRolento]

the news of the PSP Go + Ps3 controler was announced during E3 witht he press release... read up peeps >_<

[Nibi]

the news of the PSP Go + Ps3 controler was announced during E3 witht he press release... read up peeps >_<

This is true, I guess I must have missed it.

http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/518

[Nibi]

"Sony’s PSP Go True Processor Speed Revealed" (http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/07/02/sonys-psp-go-true-processor-speed-revealed/)

Sony insider looked up the FCC filing for the PSP go and found that it has a max processor speed of 480 MHz.

[SuperPhillip]

As someone who likes tech, this is sweet.
As for me, I'm cool with my PSP 2000. :)

[Ecofreak]

Not sure how much difference the PSP Go's processor is compared to its earlier breathern, but I suspect the faster processing speed will largely be meant for faster loading of games and running multiple Go apps (ala iPhone).

[RelentlessRolento]

I see the faster processor there so that it can run background XMB.

[Ecofreak]

Here are some more interesting background info from SonyInsider.com (http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/07/02/sonys-psp-go-true-processor-speed-revealed/)

According to recently filed FCC documents (https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=460048&fcc_id=%27AK8PN1001A1%27), the PSP Go (PSP-N1001) might be faster than we originally expected. While the official specs stated the clock frequency of the processor at 333MHz, FCC documents have pegged this tiny UMD-less, flash based dynamo to actually max out at 480MHz. While the PSP Go will most likely be locked in at 333Mhz, it is possible that the software within will allow scaling for intensive applications or the full speed will be enabled in a future firmware update. Many of you may remember that the original PSP was always locked to 222MHz, but since firmware 3.50, developers had access to the full 333MHz. The difference in increased processor speed was night and day for many gamers, who noticed better lighting, more particles, and a few minor differences.

[starmask2k3]

Agreed. It's looking more and more like the PS3 slim is real and if that is the case then...well I'll be double dipping on the PS3 before I even consider buying a PSP GO. If it's less than $200 I'll throw it on the back burner. If it's less than $150 I'll just buy it.

its 250+tax

[RelentlessRolento]

if the GO means faster load times for all my games, the asking price is entirely worth it to me. Might finally make Power Stone Collection not suck anymore.

[Nibi]

A nice write-up by Emanuel Merino over at RPGamer.com. No real new info, but a nice summary with impressions of the PSP Go as well as the controversies surrounding it.
PSP Go Special: Going Premium (http://www.rpgamer.com/news/currents/2009/column/em070309.html)

[Cao Cao]

Engadget Japan contacted Sony to find out what the clock signal thing meant. It turns out that it was misinterpreted. The 480Mhz clock signal refers to the USB device, not the CPU. Sony still maintains that the CPU is 333mhz.
http://pspupdates.qj.net/Sony-PSP-Go-s-480MHz-clock-speed-reference-was-for-USB-not-CPU/pg/49/aid/132761
http://japanese.engadget.com/2009/07/03/psp-go-1-5/

[Ecofreak]

A nice write-up by Emanuel Merino over at RPGamer.com. No real new info, but a nice summary with impressions of the PSP Go as well as the controversies surrounding it.
PSP Go Special: Going Premium (http://www.rpgamer.com/news/currents/2009/column/em070309.html)

Finally -- some in-depth analysis. Looking forward to reading this. Thanks! :)

Engadget Japan contacted Sony to find out what the clock speed thing meant. It turns out that it was misinterpreted. The 480Mhz refers to the USB device, not the CPU. Sony still maintains that the CPU is 333mhz.
http://pspupdates.qj.net/Sony-PSP-Go-s-480MHz-clock-speed-reference-was-for-USB-not-CPU/pg/49/aid/132761
http://japanese.engadget.com/2009/07/03/psp-go-1-5/

I suppose it makes sense, as PSP Go users will be frequently transferring games from computer to system while PSP Phats can still use their UMDs.

[distgfx]

A nice write-up by Emanuel Merino over at RPGamer.com. No real new info, but a nice summary with impressions of the PSP Go as well as the controversies surrounding it.
PSP Go Special: Going Premium (http://www.rpgamer.com/news/currents/2009/column/em070309.html)

*ctrl+f, search "pad", no results found*

Aww, they didn't touch on the most important part to me. I want some d-pad impressions. :cry:

[starmask2k3]

when can you preorder it

[Ecofreak]

Right now on Amazon.com.

Piano Black (http://www.amazon.com/PSP-Go-Black-Sony/dp/B002BSC55M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1247185765&sr=8-1)
White (http://www.amazon.com/PSP-Go-White-Sony/dp/B002CZ756I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1247185765&sr=8-2)

[The 7th Number]

WTF
Customers buy this item with Super Mario Galaxy 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002BSA388/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_text_b) by Nintendo
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WyMpCwpsL._SL500_SS75_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/PSP-Go-Black-Sony/dp/B002BSC55M/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_img_a) + http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51C8-GeBONL._SL500_SS75_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002BSA388/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_img_b) Price For Both: $298.98
One of these items ships sooner than the other. Show details (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002BSC55M/ref=nosim/cheapassgam08-20#)


LMAO


I wouldnt mind having one of these, then hooking it up to my tv and playing it with a PS3 controller.

[Nibi]

PSP Go listing at Bestbuy mentions that a voucher for Rockband Unplugged will be included in the package.
"Includes PSPgo system, USB cable, AC adapter and Rock Band Unplugged voucher"

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9459659&st=PSPgo&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218108085308

I would have preferred Gran Turismo, but still good news if true.

[Ecofreak]

PSP Go listing at Bestbuy mentions that a voucher for Rockband Unplugged will be included in the package.
"Includes PSPgo system, USB cable, AC adapter and Rock Band Unplugged voucher"

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9459659&st=PSPgo&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218108085308

I would have preferred Gran Turismo, but still good news if true.

I'd rather Sony give us a $40 voucher for anything on PSN (other PSP/PS games, movies, etc). but it's nice to see a game is being provided.

[RandyTsai]

do not dl any games or downloadble content. It makes it impossible for us to resell it and thats what they want. Don't support it and it will die out. But you guys are all idiots, so there's no point in my posting. Fail in my part for posting.

[Nibi]

do not dl any games or downloadble content. It makes it impossible for us to resell it and thats what they want. Don't support it and it will die out. But you guys are all idiots, so there's no point in my posting. Fail in my part for posting.

But how do you really feel? ;) Not everyone sells back their games. To completely vilify downloadable games and dlc is rather close-minded considering the direction that videogame content is going with services like Steam, PSN, etc. You are also denying yourself some great gaming experiences, as many great titles are available for download only.

[FriskyTanuki]

We're idiots for buying downloadable games? You're the idiot for thinking there's a chance that it'll go away, to use your description back at you.

[RelentlessRolento]

hmmm not bad now considering it comes with a game I never expected to get.

don't want it either, but I'll probably make it into ebay fodder.

[Serpentor]

Of all the games, it has to Rockband Unplugged? Bah, how much can you get from eBay for that...

[62t]

looks like pirates are one step ahead already

http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?11090113850998

[SynGamer]

looks like pirates are one step ahead already

http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?11090113850998

Can't read that...care to enlighten us?

[Salamando3000]

Don't see that as a pirating thing, more of a cheap Taiwanese knock-off thing.

[FriskyTanuki]

That's a very tempting offer, as I have the disc version and I'd prefer having the PSN version with my DLC that I could launch at any time. I'd hope that load times would be cut down greatly, as well. Still not enough yet to be worth $250, though I hope that's an example of their plans for the launch.

[FriskyTanuki]

http://kotaku.com/5325560/hard-to-resist-flinging-the-pspgo-for-a-good-reason

The unit I played yesterday was loaded with several games. I played the new Jak and Daxter on it briefly, with no ergonomic difficulty. I also tried to use the Go's exclusive Game Sleep function, but the Jak build was blocking it. The Game Sleep function allows a player to sleep their game at any point and return to the cross media bar on the PSP to do other things — no saving required. I failed to ask if multiple games can be frozen with Game Sleep at the same time, but will follow up.The initial description of the Game Sleep function made it seem more like in-game XMB, but this seems to be a bit cooler by allowing you to quick save/sleep it and return to the XMB to do whatever else you need to do and then come back to the game at another time. It would be even better if that can be done for multiple games, like you can do on the PS3 for videos, which would be a nice contrast to the PSP since it only saves your spot for music and only one file at a time.

[Ryukahn]

The more I think about it, the more I'm not sure I like DD only. I guess it really depends on how far they go as far as letting future systems be able to play them.

I've got like 9 XBLA games that do nothing since I sold my 360 a year ago, and I can never get that money back, or even play those games (I'd LOVE to play some freakin Puzzle Quest). It's a big reason I keep my Nintendo Wii, as I have a lot of money invested into the Virtual Console, even though it sees minimal playtime beyond some Wii Sports. The only nice thing with the XBLA games is that I can purchase a 360 well into it's lifecycle and still be able to download and play those games if I pick a system back up. Could also have done a better job of not buying anything but the best of the best heh.

[RelentlessRolento]

I honestly think DD is better suited for portables due to no need of switching thing sin and out... it's all there.

Having DD on a portable (both on my iPod Touch and PSP) i can easily say it's very comfortable especially.

Most people I know that are weary of DD usually don't own more than 8 DD games. I find that people who work up a small collection (say 10) DD games have no fears of DD really.

[Chitown021]

Having all of my games saved on my system available to play without lugging along a pile of UMD's sound great. The downside is the download only content kills being able to trade in your games, keep them in your collection, or find them on clearance (unless at least for awhile they keep stocking the plastic cases with redemption codes in them like Patapon 2).

[RelentlessRolento]

i say vs retail it's worth it, but only if the initial price isn't something killer. $20 and below is what I think they should be priced at.

[smiggity]

Yep, the only downside to DD is no clearance games. But hey, we are paying for the convenience of not switching discs, and I will gladly pay if its a good game

[DAWG26]

Any word yet on the free game download if you already own a physical copy of the game?

[RelentlessRolento]

Yep, the only downside to DD is no clearance games. But hey, we are paying for the convenience of not switching discs, and I will gladly pay if its a good game


the nice thing about network cards going on sale is that vs retail, it's not like one game goes on sale, but all DD games available instantly are cheaper.

[Ryukahn]

the nice thing about network cards going on sale is that vs retail, it's not like one game goes on sale, but all DD games available instantly are cheaper.

Not saying they haven't, but when have they been on sale, or are you just saying the possibility of a sale?

[Ecofreak]

Not saying they haven't, but when have they been on sale, or are you just saying the possibility of a sale?

There was a big Walmart sale where the $50 PSN cards were $40, providing for a savings of 20%. Picked up 3 myself and parts of me wish I had gotten more as it doesn't seem like these cards go on sale all that much.

[RelentlessRolento]

they have and will go on sale, especially if down the road retail lessens carrying boxed games.

[Ecofreak]

New information out today (http://www.siliconera.com/2009/07/31/a-taste-of-r-type-tactics-ii-operation-bitter-chocolate/) that, at least in one case, a physical copy will cost more than the downloadable version.

In addition to releasing R-Type Tactics II in stores, Irem is preparing a downloadable version scheduled to come out on the same day. A boxed copy costs 5,040 yen ($53) while the downloadable release goes for 3,800 yen ($40).

So will the physical copies go up in price above normal PSP MSRP, or downloadable games get a discount remains to be seen. But at least there is a monetary incentive for downloading.

[FriskyTanuki]

Pricing in Japan doesn't really hint at what will happen here, so I wouldn't put much stock into that news.

[RelentlessRolento]

if there is a price difference I can't see it be as much as a $5 difference unless we are very lucky. If we are lucky, and more lucky on top of that then $10.

[h3llbring3r]

New information out today (http://www.siliconera.com/2009/07/31/a-taste-of-r-type-tactics-ii-operation-bitter-chocolate/) that, at least in one case, a physical copy will cost more than the downloadable version- at title launch
Fixed for accuracy.
I know it goes w/o saying; Everyone is aware at the deficit of DD bargains bins and clearances. ;)

[RedvsBlue]

Let's not forgot the whole Amazon/Kindle/1984 deal where people paid for digital media and had it yanked away. They got their money back but still, I just plain prefer having control of the media I purchase.

[fuss]

My question is can the game be downloaded to more than one system? I have a 3000 now, and I am torn between getting a go and just getting my daughter the hannah montana pack that comes out in a few days. If I can buy a game and download it to BOTH systems then I will prob go with the go...

[pete5883]

Let's not forgot the whole Amazon/Kindle/1984 deal where people paid for digital media and had it yanked away. They got their money back but still, I just plain prefer having control of the media I purchase.
Why do you even bring this up, knowing it could and would never happen on the PSP?

[RelentlessRolento]

My question is can the game be downloaded to more than one system? I have a 3000 now, and I am torn between getting a go and just getting my daughter the hannah montana pack that comes out in a few days. If I can buy a game and download it to BOTH systems then I will prob go with the go...

No worries. You can have it activated on 5 PSPs at once, and if you need to add more, just deactivate one and activate the other.

it's really not a problem unless you collect 50 PSPs.

[mykevermin]

The diff b/w the PS3 and PSP makes this pretty lame, IMO.

I have to deactivate and reactivate my one PSP if I want to play a game from the US region or JP region - which involves connecting it to my PS3 and fidgeting around with some settings. It's rather quick and easy, but I'd rather be able to continuously play the games I purchased on the fly without that kind of nonsense that's user unfriendly and thus contrary to the very ideas of ease of use and region-free.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm with you there Myke even though I only get Japanese demos...

It would be nice to have multiple activations on one PSP.

[FriskyTanuki]

You have to connect the PSP to the PS3 when changing to a foreign account? I just deleted the account I was using and logged in with the foreign account to download what I wanted to play and then do the same to get back without needing the PS3 at all. It would be great if they added the ability to have multiple user accounts so that you don't have to delete and add and delete and re-add to change accounts to play certain content.

[mykevermin]

PSP can only have one active "account" at a time, so I can't play Wild Arms 2 (like I am now), quit and start up Fire Pro Wrestling G.

It's far easier to reauthorize the PSP with a diff. account than it is to redownload something. Big difference.

[blissskr]

Why dont you just save the games on your ps3 under which ever account and connect and copy to the psp instead of redownloading through the psp its a bit faster than waiting for the psp to redownload Ive found.

[RelentlessRolento]

I download on my PS3 and transfer, but you still have the annoying reactivation shit.

[darkwingduck13]

I download on my PS3 and transfer, but you still have the annoying reactivation shit.

But that digital distribution sure is the bomb-diggity! :D

[FroMann]

I decided if my PSP 2000 dies up i'll just get a PSP 3000. Sony did say they will support them both still. I was first excited about Go!, but it looks like a PSP for people that don't own a PSP.

[bigl523]

Any idea if game-sharing is going to work with PSP downloaded games?

[bmachine]

You would need multiple user registrations to be able to gameshare, right? I'm pretty sure the PSP only allows one user profile.

Theoretically, you could gameshare anything you download for your PSP from the PS3 store, though...I think.

[Nibi]

It should work if you DL it from the PSN store. The oher users should be able to access your account, go to download history and re-download it. At least thats how it has worked so far.

[cgarb84]

Man I really want one of these seeing as how I only have a PSP -1000 or whatever people call the launch system. I don't know if I can pay $250 for one of these though, especially after the PS3 Slim price of $300 was announced. I already have a PS3 but the idea of it only costing $50 more than a PSP Go is nausea inducing.

[Ecofreak]

Man I really want one of these seeing as how I only have a PSP -1000 or whatever people call the launch system. I don't know if I can pay $250 for one of these though, especially after the PS3 Slim price of $300 was announced. I already have a PS3 but the idea of it only costing $50 more than a PSP Go is nausea inducing.

The price will likely go down fairly quickly -- Sony themselves said that it's a premium price for early adapters (like every other piece of hardware). So be patient or buy it used.

[briandadude]

Gameboy Micro:Nintendo as PSPGo:Sony

[Ryukahn]

Assuming the PSP release lineup stays solid for a few years (it's looking really damn good atm), I'd most likely pick this up when the system drops in price plus the memory becomes cheaper.

[J7.]

So I read the Go's screen is the same resolution as the older models but it is also smaller. So game's will look a little better on the Go then?

[h3llbring3r]

So I read the Go's screen is the same resolution as the older models but it is also smaller. So game's will look a little better on the Go then?
Interesting theory/question. :-k Does a smaller SD-TV make SD shows look better? I guess it might depend on your eye-sight; Or, how far away from your face you hold it. ;)

[Nibi]

The PSP Go’s smaller screen size means that it will have a higher pixel density. In general a higher pixel density is desirable particularly on mobile gadgets, as it leads to smoother images and text on screen. While the difference won’t be major, or even all that noticeable, on paper it is superior. For what it’s worth Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi likes the PSP Go screen, saying:

"I like that it's become very small, and the contrast and color of the screen has improved over PSP 3000."

Take that as you will.

[J7.]

That makes sense. It's statistically better, but not very noticeable. Still better in quality overall though it sounds like.

[saiyajinsc]

Sony really needs to drop the go's price. they are basically competing with themselves since they have the slim for 300 now.

[Cthulhu8u]

PSP Go listing at Bestbuy mentions that a voucher for Rockband Unplugged will be included in the package.
"Includes PSPgo system, USB cable, AC adapter and Rock Band Unplugged voucher"

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9459659&st=PSPgo&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218108085308

I would have preferred Gran Turismo, but still good news if true.

I don't have the source, but I remember hearing that the Rock Band voucher was for the already free demo :roll:

In case anyone didn't hear, early adopters get a free download of Gran Turismo PSP. Full game I assume...

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/register-your-psp-go-quickly-get-gran-turismo-psp-free/

[silks]

The Gran Turismo offer is only valid in Europe.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/blogs/sidebar/909182374/27004067/free-gran-turismo-psp-deals-europe-only.html

"Unfortunately, Sony US has confirmed to GameSpot the Gran Turismo PSP/Gran Turismo 5 preorder deal is valid in Europe only. "The offer is not valid in all other territories," a Sony rep told GameSpot. The rep did not indicate whether other regions would receive their own, unique incentives."

[Nibi]

Lack of a free downloadable game for early US adopters sucks. It's a good thing I have lots of good content qeued up from my gamesharing group.